1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody. A Monday edition Texans All Access coming 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: at you from the Hunday Texans A Radio studio. I 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: am driving tonight. I am John Harrislip only out sideline reporter, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm a driver's seat. Sometimes I'm the passenger seat. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: But nearly every single minute the time, it's the two 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: of us meet. John Harris looks at the voice of 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: the Texans, Mark Vanimer. Mark, do you like being in 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the driver's seat or do you like being in the 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: passenger side where you have to navigate? Johnny, I always 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: liking us to lending a McCartney really uh, sometimes, you know, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: for singing a McCartney song. I think I'm McCartney. By 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: the way, I think you're a Lenin with a longer lifespan, 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: and I'm McCartney. How about that. I just compared us 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: to like two of the greatest songwriters ever. Maybe it's 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: like too much. How about this, Glenn Fry and Don Henley. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I like it. I like, I think that you're Don 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Henley and I'm Glenn Fry. But I'm not dead, so 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: there's that. And Fleetwood Mac. I think I'm probably more 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: like Christy McVeigh and you're Stevie Nicks, but I don't know, 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: so maybe one of us is Lindsey Buckingham. But I 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: think it doesn't matter who drives or who doesn't drive. 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: I think when you turn on the radio and you 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: hear us, you know we're talking, it does matter to it. Agree, 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Because you throw stuff at me, I throw stuff at you. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: But I kind of like doing both. It's it's fun 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: to be able to play different instruments in the band. 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: In my high school band, we switched up. I'd played 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: bass for two or three songs. It was kind of 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: cool that way. Yeah, that's very cool to switch things up. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Do you prey have Fleetwood Mac? Pretty interesting? I don't know. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I know you just brought it up out of the blue, 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask you in the second segment, is 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac? Matt Stafford Is Matt Stafford Fleetwood Mac? I mean, 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: because if you if you think about it, it's pretty 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: apropos very talented, extremely talented group, a decent lifespan. You 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: expect a lot from them. But yet there were other 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: bands and other artists that were above and beyond them, 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: even though Fleetwood Mac probably should have been beyond what 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: those bands were Fleetwood Mac is Matt Stafford? Yes or no? 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: I will do I answer to the next segment. I 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: will come up with a better musical comparison to Matt 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Stafford than Fleetwood Mac. Way better? Okay, because all right, 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: well we'll get it do in the next segment. I 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: could do this all day long, by the way, with 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: what musical artists equal what football players? But I know 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: we have other things to do first. I think I 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of want to get into that, but I do 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about Matt Stafford because it's been interesting 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: to watch the arc since he's been traded. And part 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: of it is because I listened to the Fly Coach 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: podcast with Peter Schreeger from Fox Sports, also Goring Football 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: and Sean mcvayh the head coach of the the LA Rams, 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: and how excited Sean McVeagh is to have Matt Stafford. 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: But it's almost I think created Matt Stafford. This. I 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say, you know, this grand player when 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that he really was that in Detroit, 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: and I know there were times in the defense or 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: the receivers or whatever else in Detroit just didn't work. 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: But it got into a pretty heated debate on Twitter 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: today between a few guys that and I say, heated, 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: but there was a good discussion about it, and it 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: got me thinking. And the Texas do face him on 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: October thirty, first Halloween Sunday. We'll talk about Matt Stafford 64 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: the next seven year, but mark more pressing issues. Training 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: camp is on the horizon. As a look at my calendar, 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: it says July twelve. That means somewhere in the next 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: two and a half fish weeks or so, we're gonna 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: see the twenty twenty Texas twenty twenty one xens on 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: the field altogether, first time in training camp. Ready to go. 70 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: But as we get ready to go, we've got to 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: put together to do list. I was listening to Lopez 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and Landry earlier today and Lopez made this comment, and 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. He said, as husbands, we 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: only have two things we can control, the thermostat and 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the remote. Everything else we have to rely on our wives. 76 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, boll okay, all right, that's another one. 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: We oftentimes will end up with a to do list. 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: All right, here is that to do list. I go 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: to HB or Kroger with a to do list. We 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: just call it the list, but it's a to do list. 81 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: So we you and I have to come up with 82 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: what the to do list for the Texans in training 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: camp throughout training camp has got to be specifically general 84 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: either way you look at it. We got to come 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: up with the to do list for this team coming 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: into training camp and coming out of training camp getting 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: ready for September twelfth against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are you 88 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: ready for the to do list? I'm ready, Johnny, and 89 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: I think you've come to the right place because when 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: it comes to knowing what to do at camp and 91 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: how to divide up these reps, I feel like I've 92 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: got this. And if Nick and Coach Culley want to 93 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: talk to me, I think I've done all the work here. 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: I've done all the work. They don't need to look 95 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: any further. They don't need to delve in anything. Just 96 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: ask me, and I'm sure they will. Actually they won't, 97 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: they won't even care. But we could do it right 98 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: here on the radio. Yes, of course, And I would 99 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: imagine the last year opinion they've they've asked your opinion 100 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: for things. Yeah, not this, maybe not training camp camp, 101 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: but you know, anything of Joe Buck, you know, what 102 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: do you think of al Michaels. That's the kind of 103 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: opinion they might seek for me, not how do you 104 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: think we should divvy up the reps at punt returner. 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: They're not gonna answer me that. How do you think 106 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: they no, no, no, let's not get. Let's not get 107 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: actually comes to the play here and die here? Oh 108 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: yeah it does. In fact, I thought about that because 109 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I was watching. I went back and I was watching 110 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I'll go first, kind of okay, Um, I'll go first. 111 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: You give one, I give one. You want to do that? Yeah, 112 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: all right. I was watching the Browns the game, the 113 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Browns game from last year, and I was looking with 114 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: something specific, and I was like, man, I should have 115 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: known not the Really, the Browns game was probably not 116 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: the one to be looking for anything specific. But it 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: got me. It got me. Really, Um, I'm disappointed, it's 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: not the right word. That was a winnable game. And look, 119 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: there were a number of them, both Colts games, both 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: Titans games, the Browns game. There were there were a 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: number of winnable games. I mean the Steelers game. I 122 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: think one of the things and I this is this 123 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: is kind of tricky throughout the league, Right, But the 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me in that Browns 125 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: game was the fact that we did not tackle very 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: well and watching the defense tackle, and it wasn't all 127 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: just Nick Chubb running through armed tackles or anything like that. 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: It was guys not being in position. There were times 129 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: there were times in that game where you're expecting Chubb 130 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: to just go crazy and then man, a defensive front 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: would close down live backers phil gaps and it looked good. 132 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: But there were times in that game where the tackling 133 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: was not good and it obviously came to fruition the 134 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: late third quarter on it to the fourth quarter where 135 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: the tackling was not great. That goes up on the 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: to do list. And I know it's one of those 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: things that I don't say you take for granted, but 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: I think you take it for granted less now because 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you don't hit as much as you used to. Right, 140 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: So what needs to be done during training camp to 141 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: make sure that you may not be focused on the 142 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: physical strike rap bring to the ground tackling part, but 143 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: what all are you doing your training camp to make 144 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: sure that the footwork being in position, making sure that 145 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: you're filling the right gaps, all those kind of things. 146 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: The things that you can do to improve tackling are 147 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: being done on a daily basis, such that, hey, you 148 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: might be tackling a bunch of dummies and a bunch 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: of donuts and stuff, but at least you're working on 150 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the techniques and doing those things such that you can 151 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: be a better tackling team than this group was last year. 152 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: So to me, former defensive guy, I always look forward 153 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: to training camp because we did get a chance to 154 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: be physical tackle. Well that was almost thirty years ago. Now, 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: how can you become a good tackling team without being 156 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: so overly physical in practice? That's about to do list 157 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: number one. Those that's got to be accomplished. Becoming a 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: good tackling team without being so physical every single day 159 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: in training camp. Well, I was going to go to 160 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: the offense right away, but I'll stay on defense as 161 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: you brought it here, Johnny. And one of the things 162 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned there besides the tackling was being in position. 163 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: Are you in position the proper position to make the play. 164 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: So it's a fundamental thing. And even though you can't 165 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: work on tackling really in OTAs the offseason weeks that 166 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: they had. You can work on being in the right spot, 167 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: being in the right place, and what we're gonna be 168 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: doing on defense philosophically. Lovey Smith's new system new to 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: this team, and I do think that Lovey being on 170 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: this team in this organization is sort of an underplayed thing. 171 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's coached a lot of really 172 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: good defense. Turns the ball over, gets the takeaways. I 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: like that turns the ball over on the defensive side, 174 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: meaning you get the takeaways. We went over this terminology 175 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: last week for people who are just dropping it, like 176 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You want to turn them all. 177 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: You want to have the opponent turn the ball over. 178 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: So I believe that they've already started this. They've already 179 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: started this. We saw them work on some turnover drills. 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, they've been working on getting in the right spot. 181 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: And you talk about your Flying Coach podcast with Sean McVeigh, 182 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: he talks about first and second down in other words, 183 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: in other words, basic football stuff. And I think that 184 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: they and he talked about working on that during the 185 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: week on a game week, Monday and Tuesday or I'm sorry, 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, your first two days of real practice 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: leading into a game. I think they've worked on a 188 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: lot of first and second down type stuff in the 189 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: offseason practice to get these defensive players acclimated to what 190 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: they want to do. It's a new system. It's gonna 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: be different if you don't hit the ground running and 192 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: training camp and you have most of your stuff in 193 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: your way behind. I believe they have most of their 194 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: stuff in on that side of the football, So I'm 195 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: going to say being in the right spot. The choreography 196 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: of the defense and how they want to address taking 197 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the ball away. It's not just wreaking havoc in the backfield. 198 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: You'd love to do it all day long, but they 199 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: worked on things as far as the trickery in the secondary. Johnny, 200 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: that's a football term. You can't get this kind of 201 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: stuff anywhere else, all right, The trickery in the defense, 202 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: disguising coverages, that kind of thing on the back end. 203 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: They've worked on that and I'm looking forward to seeing 204 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: the results soon enough. Okay, I'm gonna stay actually in 205 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, because you sort of 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: sort of triggered a thought in some sense, and this 207 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: is one that actually seth Paine and I have talked 208 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: about a bunch just texting each other back and forth. 209 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: We've every now and again we know we'll go over 210 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: something and kind of just discuss it through text, and 211 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Zach cutting Him is a guy that comes up a 212 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: lot in our discussions. Zach had one hundred and sixty 213 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: four tackles last year. He played as the three four 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: in se linebacker. I am curious to see and he 215 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: was not. He did not go through the offseason here, 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: so I'm curious to see how Lovey Smith uses him. 217 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: Does he put him in the Mike position? Does he 218 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: play Mike backer? Does he play will linebacker? Does he 219 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: play will linebacker? On first second down and then third 220 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: down he moves over to Mike. He is the three 221 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: on linebacker. There's no doubt. I think he man. I 222 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: would say he's the best defensive player this organization has. 223 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: But on the to do list, I want to figure 224 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: out where does Zach Cuttingham fit best in Lovey Smith's 225 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: new scheme, and I think it's probably at Mike, but 226 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: I could see him playing Will, so I think one 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: of those two spots he's going to fill. It's just 228 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: a matter of which one fits best, and if he 229 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: ends up at Mike. How do you then flank him 230 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: with Will and Sam? If if he then plays Will, 231 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: then who do you put it the Mic? And who 232 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: do you put it the Sam? At that point? And 233 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see that, and I think it's also 234 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: key because then I think things then filter down from that, 235 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: because if you play him at Will, there's some things 236 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: that Zach can do out in coverage because he is 237 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: so athletic that maybe you I don't want to see 238 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: get away with. But you have an opportunity to leave 239 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: a particular personnel group on the field because Zach can't 240 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: stay out there and do some different things. But if 241 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: you play him at Mike, well then maybe those personnel 242 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: groups get changed up. So I think to do list 243 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: where exactly does Zach Cuttingham step in and play be 244 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: it Mike? I wouldn't imagine he plays Sam, but if 245 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: he plays the Mic or the Will, and which one 246 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: fits for him best? I think he's the best defensive 247 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: player that we've got. And figuring out his role and 248 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: then kind of letting everything else filter in around him, 249 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be key, but I don't 250 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: know that everything else kind of fits in place until 251 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: we know exactly how Zach Cuttingham fits in this defense 252 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: quarterback of the defense. He's been that way so far. 253 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: We'll see how it works out. All right. My next item, 254 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to do list And by the way, I 255 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,479 Speaker 1: think we're going in no particular order here because obviously, 256 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: and I think much of this is out of your control. 257 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: You need to figure out the quarterback situation with training 258 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: camp beginning, and is there going to be some big news? 259 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Is there not going to be some big news? Are 260 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: you going with what you've been practicing with so far? 261 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Because let's just say that's the case. You know, based 262 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: on everything that's happening outside, you need to figure out 263 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: how you want to divide up these reps here. Because 264 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Trod Taylor clearly is a guy who's been around the block. 265 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: He knows this system. He should come in good to 266 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: go right. You've got to get him ready to play, 267 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. But how do you work 268 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: it with Driscoll and Davis Mills? Do you let Davis 269 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Mills battle with the threes and try to move up? 270 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Do you automatically give them reps with the twos? You see, 271 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: I think that as long as you're learning the system 272 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: and the threes are capable around you. I don't know 273 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: if it makes that much of a difference early. Let's 274 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: see if he can get it and then let the 275 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: tide rise. If he's capable of doing it right, clearly 276 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Taylor's going to be the guy, but you know, assuming 277 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: certain things. But with Driscoll and Davis Mills, you'd like 278 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Davis Mills to win that job, no offense. Jeff Driscoll. 279 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I think he knows that too, that that's what you're 280 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: looking for from a third round draft choice who's so 281 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: highly regarded for a third round draft choice. So I'm 282 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: eager to see that. And I think that you need 283 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: to determine how you want to play it, and I 284 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: think you start with the threes and maybe mix in 285 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: some twos, but you see how he performs and you 286 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: move him up accordingly and see how it goes from there. Look, 287 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: that's what happened with Watson in twenty seventeen. He started 288 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: training camp at the Greenbrier with the threes and he 289 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: float it up right. So let's just see if Davis 290 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Mills can do something similar here as far as moving 291 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: from the threes to the twos. You'll take the from there. Gosh, 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: why am I blanking on who the two was? Oh 293 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: it's Brandy Weed. Oh gosh, yeah, I was completely blanking 294 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: man who ultimately did not make the football team. But 295 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: you really needed them to that year because Watson got hurt, 296 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Savage got hurt, it would have been Weed in time 297 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: toward the end of the season anyway, you were back 298 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to Yates, you had Taylor Heineke's appearing. I mean, you 299 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: were really desperate for quarterback help. Yeah, desperate in conjunction 300 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: with yours, which I would imagine that probably goes number one. 301 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think just given everything that has transpired 302 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: from the end of the football season to where we 303 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: are today. Yeah, yeah, I think that's so. There's that. 304 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: But in conjunction with that, I feel like last year, 305 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the start of the season obviously started with the chiefs 306 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: of Ravens of Steelers and the Vikings just didn't help anything. However, 307 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: it really didn't help anything when the four top receivers 308 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: that you had, none of them all together, worked with 309 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback to Shaun Watson at all. One day 310 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: it was two guys, one day it was one one guy, 311 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: would be two, then it would be three. They never worked, Cooks, 312 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Cob Fuller. Still, those four thought to be the top 313 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: four guys did not work with the Shawn altogether on 314 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: the same day until Thursday night in Kansas City, and 315 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: it showed itself. I felt like, especially in the first 316 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: two games, started to kind of break out of it 317 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: and get into something of a rhythm. In week three 318 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: and then week four kind of regressed. Changes made, and 319 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: then they really started to kind of find their themselves 320 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: going forward, but they never were all together. So to 321 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: your point about getting reps, if they go into the 322 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: season and let's say that it plays out where Tyrod 323 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: is that guy to start, and then you've got Davis 324 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: and you've got Jeff behind them, the key to me 325 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: is that every time that's RD Taylor takes a snap, 326 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: that Brandon Cooks and I don't know exactly who will 327 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: be the number two, whether it's gonna be Kiki and Cobb, 328 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna go, but I know 329 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is the number one receiver for this team. 330 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Every time to Rod Taylor takes a snap, to the 331 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: degree that Brandon Cooks is healthy, I want those two 332 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: on the field together, and I would I would think 333 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb is definitely gonna be in that mix. I 334 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: think Kiki qt is gonna be in that mix. I don't, 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: but okay, let's just say it's Cooks and let's just 336 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: take Cooks and Cob. Those two are taking every single 337 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: rep with Torodd Taylor. Every time Tarrod takes a snap, 338 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: they're on the field, run past punt. I don't care 339 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: if Tarrod Taylor's on the field. Those two are on 340 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: the field during training camp and they get to a 341 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: better synergy to start the year. Then where this passing game, 342 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: quarterback and receivers were in twenty twenty. I think that's 343 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: a great point last year, and we've talked about this. 344 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: We were pointing this out. That's why you need to 345 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: listen to our shows. During training camp. We were mentioning, hey, Luke, 346 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: who's not out there today. It could be a veteran sit, 347 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: could be some kind of nagging injury or whatever. But 348 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: they did not have that group with them, and it 349 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: showed late in the season when Watson appeared to have 350 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: great chemistry with guys like Chad Hanson at Kikikis because 351 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: they were on the field with them in training camp. 352 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's the only reason, but it 353 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: was notable that that was the case. Okay, running backs, Johnny, 354 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: this is tricky because I've always said this about Philip lindsay, 355 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, he's a good play. This is probably 356 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: your best running back if he's healthy. The question is 357 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: you get him into training camp, you put on the pads, 358 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: he looks good. How do you handle it? Do you 359 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: mothball him? He still needs the work, But how much 360 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: work does he really need? When is the build up 361 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: coming down and the tear down coming up? Right? You 362 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: want to make sure you're still building him up, and 363 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: you don't want to break him down too much because 364 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: you want him available for the season. I think that's 365 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to handle. I want to limit 366 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: his reps. I just do. I know he's good as 367 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: long as he's getting the offense and understands it. I 368 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: want to keep him fairly limited. I think you could 369 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: say that for just about all of the top four 370 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: guys at running back. David Johnson maybe not, but I 371 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: think you have a case to say it about him 372 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: as well. Ingram clearly because of age, burkhead age and 373 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: injury as well, and maybe It's just good that you've 374 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: these four guys. Now, maybe there's a move to be 375 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: made before camp. It's one of these guys are I 376 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know, But with these top four guys, and I'll 377 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: assume they're the top four, maybe I just have enough 378 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: guys here where I can mix and match. I can, 379 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: like you know, Burkehead had a good practice, give him 380 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: a day off. Lindsay had a good practice, Give him 381 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: a day off. Maybe that's how they do it. But 382 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: that is what I'm looking for here on this training camp. 383 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: To do list running back rep management, you have to 384 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: be diligent about it because gosh, you couldn't run the 385 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: football last year and you have a chance to do 386 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: it this year with this line and these backs combination. 387 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: However you want to work it out back there, but 388 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: you got to be careful with their health in the 389 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: first six weeks. That's what it is. It's two weeks 390 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: of practice, then the preseason games, and the two weeks 391 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: before the opener. I will let you close with the 392 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: offensive line because I know that's on both of our lists, 393 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: So I'll let you close, but I'll i'll leave that 394 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: for you. I'm gonna close with one guy Okay, one name, 395 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: because I think that he might be. I've said there 396 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: are three guys. I've said that if these three take 397 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: the leap, then I think we're looking to be a 398 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. One of those is Titus Howard. I 399 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: think Titus has started to take it. He takes a 400 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: year two to year three jump. Could be talking about 401 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: one of the better young tackles in this league. Lonnie 402 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Johnson at safety is another one that I think is 403 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: massively important. He's got he's got to take that jump again. 404 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Another twenty nineteen guy, But to me, the most important 405 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: guy is Ross Blacklock. Ross Blacklock up front, this scheme 406 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: fits him perfectly, perfectly. He now has to take his 407 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: game too. I'd always say e'ven gonna higher level of 408 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. He's got to get it to a level. 409 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: He's got to get to a point where the expectations match. 410 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: Because his quickness is athleticism, his ability to create chaos 411 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: fits this defense hand glove. Ross Blacklock, to me, in 412 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: training camp, will be a guy that I watch every 413 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: single day to see whether he is making those particular strides. 414 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: That is a must. Ross Blacklock taking those strides. Hey, 415 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I like Ross so much. The measurables are really next 416 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: level when you just look at what he can do 417 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: physically as an athlete, and you need that to happen 418 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: as a defensive lineman in game play. I mean, it 419 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: just sounds so obvious, but it's so true that he 420 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: shows you so much. There's a reason why he was 421 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: drafted in that spot. He does show you so much, 422 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: but he's got to show it on the field. Got 423 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: to make the most of these opportunities. And I think 424 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: that with this coaching change, it's a change of scenery 425 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: without changing your scenery, right, it is changing the coaching 426 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: around you. And I think it's really gonna help him 427 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: all right on the old line quickly here, you got 428 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: to figure out who's playing right tackle. You gotta figure 429 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: out if it's Cannon or Howard. However you want to 430 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: do that, I think you have to do that fast. 431 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: And I would assume they already know, but if they don't, 432 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: they better get it fast, in my opinion, because on 433 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: this team, on the twenty twenty one Texans, those five 434 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: fingers on the offensive line that make that fist, they 435 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: gotta be together. They gotta be a unit. And I 436 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: think you'd still need rep management there, particularly in some spots, 437 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: but they have to play together enough to get some 438 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: chemistry for you going into the season. I really want 439 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: to see that group get as much time together as possible. 440 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: You talked about, Hey, every time Taylor's out there, I 441 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: want to see Cooks and Cob or whoever your deem are, 442 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: your top two guys. Well, it's the same thing with 443 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: that line. They gotta be out there. No people freak out. 444 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: A lot of media people freak out when they see 445 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: a tackle moving to guard during training camp practice or 446 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: somebody running with the twos. They freak out too much 447 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: because you and I have seen it way too much 448 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: in games where you have to mix and match, where 449 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: you have to move a tackle over or bring a 450 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: guy off the bench who was a tackle but now 451 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a guard in this game because you 452 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: dress seven and that's just the way it's got to 453 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: be this afternoon to get you through the game. And 454 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: you have to practice some of those situations in training 455 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: camp to be ready for those. But overall, I want 456 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: to see those five guys working together as much as 457 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: possible in concert. There you go, You're Texans training camp 458 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: to do list coming up next is Matt Stafford. All 459 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: that in the bag of chips we face in October 460 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: thirty first, talking about that next right here in Texas 461 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: All Axis. It's all Axis. It's all Axis. It's as 462 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back this Monday edition of Texans All Access. Hopefully 463 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: it is not a rainy one where you are. I've 464 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: got it drizzling here, but I guess that's just the 465 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: city of Houston. John Harris, Mark vander Meer, and Mark. 466 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: This happened, Man, it happened over the weekend. It feels 467 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: like it happens a lot more now that Matt Stafford 468 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: is with the Los Angeles Rams than it did when 469 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: he was with the Detroit Lions. And the genesis is 470 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: that there are people that think Matt Stafford is everything 471 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: that you want in a quarterback, and now that he's 472 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to get out of Detroit, he will 473 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: show it to everybody. And he's about to be the 474 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: next I don't know, Tom Brady Incarnate. For the next 475 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: ten years. He and McVeigh, they're gonna make sweet music together, 476 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And then the flip side of 477 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: that is, well, you know what, he had some pretty 478 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: good weapons in Detroit, he threw to Megatron. They didn't 479 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. Like, there's been a lot there 480 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: around Stafford. His defenses were actually pretty good for the 481 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: years he was there, except minus a couple. I said, 482 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. They were a top there, at least top 483 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: half of the league. So is Matt Stafford good? Is 484 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: he great? We know he's not bad, we know he's 485 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, he's a decent quarterback. But their feels there 486 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot going on with Matt Stafford, 487 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: and it really is sort of polarizing in some sense. 488 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: So I thought, you know what, talk about it. We 489 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: faced in October thirty first. Over his career, he's completed 490 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: sixty three percent of his passes. I bring it up 491 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: because that's not a great number nowadays. I was watching 492 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty five divisional playoff the Cowboys in the Rams. 493 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: He popped up on my YouTube the other day, and 494 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: so I wanted to watch a little bit. So I watched, 495 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: like the first half. I think dieter Brock completed fifty 496 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: nine point two percent of his passes in nineteen eighty five. 497 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: He was third in the league. Yeah, he's third in 498 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the league. With fifty nine point seven percent. It's changed. 499 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: So Stafford's completed sixty three percent of his passes. He's 500 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: thrown two hundred eighty two interceptions. I'm sorry, two hundred 501 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: eight two touchdowns. One hundred forty four interception is almost 502 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: a two to one ratio, just under a two to 503 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: one ratio. It's about eight yards per temp seven eight 504 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: yards per tenth over forty five thousand yards. He's never 505 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: won a playoff game. He's gotten them to the playoffs. 506 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: He got Detroit to the play off I think twice. 507 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it was twice, but they did not win. 508 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: And he's only been in one Pro Bowl. That's always 509 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: to the end, all be all, But a guy with 510 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: that kind of talent Mark you think Griding should have 511 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: more Pro Bowls, you should have more playoff wins, you 512 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: should have just more overall wins. I'm not ready to 513 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: say that. You know, he's a lousy quarterback of the Rams, 514 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: made a mistake, but I am definitely not saying he 515 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: is all that in a bag of chips. I don't 516 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: know where do we stand on Matt Stafford going into 517 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: year number thirteen. I think this is for him, but 518 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: you're number one with the Rams. He's kind of like 519 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Archie Manning. He's a latter day Archie Manning, Johnny. When 520 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: we played the Lions this year, I was on w JR, 521 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: which is a fantastic traditional radio station in Detroit that 522 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: anybody who's listening who's lived in Detroit knows the legend 523 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: of w JR and J. P. McCarthy and this is 524 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: a big time stationed there, and they had the Wolverines 525 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: and the Lions over time, and they've had the Tigers, 526 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: and I mean it's unbelievable all the great stuff that 527 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: they've done. But anyway, I was so I loved being 528 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: on the station and they asked me about Stafford. I said, 529 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: I think he's a latter day Archie Manning. Archie Manning 530 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: was a really good quarterback on a terrible Saints team. 531 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I think the Lions have been better and the record 532 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: reflects that. Because Stafford has been there twelve years and 533 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: he has four winning seasons. That's not a lot. Look, 534 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: I know he's got tremendous talent. He's got tremendous talent, 535 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: all right. So for guitar freaks, he's Steve VII, who 536 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: was all right, Steve v played with Dave Lee Roth 537 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: when Dave Lee Roth left. Van halen Vy is really good, 538 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: but he's never had that great commercial success you mentioned 539 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac. They're way too good for Stafford. Stafford's more 540 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: like Smashing Pumpkins if you want to go nineties Rock, 541 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: if you want to go more eighties, he's more like 542 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Brian Adams or John Cooper Mellencamp. Okay, and he's just 543 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: not quite there as far as the team performance and 544 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: his own performance on that team. Four winning seasons out 545 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: of twelve years you met to the completion percentage, Johnny, 546 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: he was sub sixty percent in four of his first 547 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: five seasons. Okay, sub sixty in today's NFL. All right, 548 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: that's ten years ago NFL, so the completion percentages are 549 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: even better today. But he's His high water mark is 550 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: sixty seven, which is nice, but the last two have 551 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: been sixty four percent, and the lack of winning seasons 552 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: is alarming. Two of his four winning seasons were nine 553 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: and sevens Okay, this guy has not exactly lit it up. 554 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: And it's not just about arm talent. He's tremendously talented, 555 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: but it's also about can you make the big third 556 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: down conversion late in the game to hang on to 557 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a lead, or when you're going for that potential game 558 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: winning field goal, or driving not even in the clutch 559 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: inside two minutes, but ten minutes to go on the 560 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter you need a score, you gotta make it 561 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: or game. Can he do those things? I think he's 562 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: capable of all of it, but it just hasn't gotten done. Now. 563 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: I do think Detroit there's like an ancient burial ground 564 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: or something that the Lions were founded on or whatever. 565 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but the fact is 566 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: that quarterbacks are cursed in Detroit. We've seen it before. 567 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: Stafford has such outstanding talent, even he couldn't get it done. 568 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: My buddy andre Ware had problems in Detroit because the 569 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: guy who drafted him left the building like the next day, 570 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: and it got to be difficult. I mean, we go 571 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: all the way back to what Bobby Lane in Detroit 572 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: right as far as quarterback issues, it's just happened there 573 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: and it's just unfortunate for Stafford and the Lions fans. 574 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: So I looked up on Pro Football Reference and they 575 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: have they have a it's not really a stat but 576 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: I like this. I think Baseball Reference does it too, 577 00:31:54,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: but they try and find comparable careers to this particularly 578 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: their player, and so the comparisons are kind of all 579 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: over the place in years three through eleven, but there 580 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: are a few common names, and then they get to 581 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: the career and I feel like some of these are 582 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: just dead on, I mean dead on. So here are 583 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: the players that compared to Matt Stafford, and I can 584 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: totally see why Tony Romo is the first name. Yeah, 585 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: he didn't win a playoff game yet he got to 586 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys at thirteen wins and I think it was thirteen 587 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: wins in two thousand and seven. He got at least 588 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: one playoff win though, hang out a second, didn't he? 589 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah he did? Oh yeah, they beat the Lions. They 590 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: beat the Lions. That was the one playoff win they 591 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: gott was in fourteen. They beat the Lions then went 592 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Now they got Hose on that call 593 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: with Dez Bryan. Okay, but Tony Romo has all playoff 594 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: win a few more. Now, I know that this guy 595 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: has some playoff wins, but I could see us Mark Brunell, 596 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: m Steve McNair, Jim Kelly, interesting one, Joe Nameth and 597 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: then this name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's the group where 598 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of to me where it's I think this is 599 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: really dead on and telling Jim Everett, Alex Smith, Any Dalton, 600 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Joe Stiseman. All right, Dalton, No, I think Stafford way 601 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: more talent. Any GM's gonna pick Stafford over Dalton based 602 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: on what you've seen in their career, Right, what was 603 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: the last one? Stizeman? Come on, Sisman was pretty good. 604 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: He had a hell of a running game and unbelievable 605 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him. All right, so let's 606 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: let's just give that up. Steve McNair. I'm taking him 607 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: every day of the week and twice on Sunday over 608 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. I'm sorry, I stand the guy's got the 609 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: intangibles to go along with the talent. Who else did 610 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: you mention? Jim Kelly went to four Super Bowls. Look, 611 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Stafford never played in He played in the divisional round, 612 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: but he never won a playoff game. Like you said, 613 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: in twelve seasons, Kelly went the four freaking Super Bowls. 614 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: So I know he lost them all, but Jeezy got there. 615 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I love Stafford's talent. I'll back andre 616 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: up with the Stafford, arm talent and all of that. 617 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: I think we all see it, and this year we're 618 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna find out a lot more. Now. Unfortunately for Stafford, 619 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: he's not exactly twenty five years old anymore. You know, 620 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: he's played twelve years in the league, So you're getting 621 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: him at the I don't know if it's the tail end. 622 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: Look for Brady and Breeze, it wouldn't be the tail end. 623 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: They would be mid career. But we'll see how it 624 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: works out with McVeigh. If it doesn't work with mcveay, 625 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: you get the feeling that the narrative is really gonna 626 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: be horrible for him. Well that's a that's a great 627 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: point too. And I started thinking about that over the weekend, 628 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: like which quarterbacks were I don't want to say, like Jims, 629 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: like you found these guys out of here, but they 630 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: essentially went to a print coach, different scheme and it 631 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: fit perfectly. And actually one of the names that popped 632 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: into my mind was on that list, Alex Smith. Alex 633 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Smith and San Francisco couldn't find him in the right 634 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He gets to Kansas City and the guy 635 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl a couple of times now, 636 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: they knew he wasn't Patrick Mahomes, and they knew there 637 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: was a ceiling on him, and that's why they dropped him. Mahomes. 638 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: But Alex Smith was one of those guys that just 639 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: sort of middling guy, but then he got the Andy 640 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: Reid and boom away you go. So I'm curious to 641 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: see what he does with Sean McVeigh and whether McVay 642 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: is kind of the secret sauce, because if Stafford isn't 643 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: the secret sauce from McVeigh and vice versa, then the 644 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: Rams they're gonna be kind of left holding the bag 645 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: because they've given up all these first round picks to 646 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: go get Stafford, to go get Jalen Ramsey. They don't 647 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: have any first round picks. So this darned thing better 648 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: work out and McVay and Stafford better be great for 649 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: each other or that thing LA is gonna get ugly 650 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: fast because people in LA have got a whole lot 651 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: better things to do. They can go see the Rams 652 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: be eight and nine or nine and eight. Yeah, and look, 653 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of in Stafford's comfort zone right there. For 654 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: lack of a better way of putting it. Look, he's 655 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: never had the talent around him, especially on defense that 656 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 1: the rams present, that's really gonna help him. We talked 657 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: about completion percentage though, Johnny, that's a huge factor in 658 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: this league, the check down, the easy offense that you 659 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: can get with safe passes, just to matriculate the ball 660 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: down the field. It's such a huge part of the game. 661 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: Can you make those accurate throws, especially when you have 662 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: to We'll see. But if there's a guy who can 663 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: get the most out of him, you feel like it's 664 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: got to be McVeigh. Although why didn't it work with golf? 665 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: Why didn't work with golf? When it first started to 666 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: work with goff was working all right, but then they 667 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: couldn't protect them and they couldn't run the ball as well, 668 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, big trouble for golf. Right. Well, 669 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: Stafford's used to having some adversity around him and some 670 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: just terrible things happen in the backfield. Wait, what was 671 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: the term, Oh, under duress. He's used to being under duress. Yes, 672 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: in Detroit ever the years. And here's another factor. You 673 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: brought it up, offensive coordinators that roll over. I mean 674 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: he's probably had in twelve years. I don't know how 675 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: many he has had. You know, Jim Bob Cooterer, he 676 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: had bebel, He had a few. Did he have bebel anyway? 677 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: He all right, So he's had a few of them 678 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: and some of them have stayed a little bit. But 679 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: she's it's it's been a rough go there. And here's 680 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: another thing about Stafford. Most people are thinking right now, 681 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: she haven't seen Stafford play much. You have not seen 682 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: Stafford play much because Detroit isn't on television. Detroit gets 683 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: on for Thanksgiving and one other game, maybe another, and 684 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: that's it. We see him once every four years. That's it, 685 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: because Detroit is not a marquee team. You know, we're 686 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: talking about other quarterbacks. Some of the names you just mentioned, 687 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: we see them a whole lot more. You mentioned Tony Romo. 688 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: You see Romo all the time with the Cowboys, whether 689 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: they're good or bad, because the Cowboys are always on television. 690 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: So that plays into it as well. A lot of 691 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: people get Stafford a major benefit of a doubt maybe something. 692 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he's better than people think because they just don't 693 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: see him enough. But they haven't been winning a lot 694 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: of football games there. And often it comes down to 695 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's not just a quarterback, but the quarterbacks 696 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: obviously a huge factor. Yeah, no doubt. It's gonna be 697 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. We'll go around the NFL next right 698 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. We want to file segment 699 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: this Monday edition to Texans All Access from now that 700 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. So glad to be with you in 701 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: the month of July July twelve. I said this to 702 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Mark earlier. Man, it's about two and a half weeks 703 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe not in yeah, maybe maybe less than that. It's 704 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: less than two weeks that the players report back to 705 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: NARG Stadium for a training camp. And that is just 706 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: unbelievable to think about. Appreciate you being with me. John Harris, 707 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: your host this evening, and let's go round the NFL. 708 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: I got one for you and actually relates to training camp. 709 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: This comes from Jordan rain On, but I think now 710 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: it writes for the Athletic for the Giants. He wrote 711 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: this tweet Mark the calendar the Giants hashtag New York 712 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: Giants Football Giants will host their only open practice of 713 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: the summer August eleventh at MetLife Stadium, calling it fan 714 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: Fest to celebrate the return of fans for the twenty 715 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: twenty one season practice autographs by Legends and fireworks. It's 716 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: fifteen days after training camp opens. Now, I know not 717 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 1: everything is sort of captured in one tweet, and what 718 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: is an open practice versus isn't are there people there? 719 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: I've gone through this with the Texans a few times, 720 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: like over the years, not gone through what I mean, 721 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: but just experienced it. You look out and you're like, man, 722 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people at practice today. But 723 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: it's not a quote unquote open practice. But it's for 724 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: season ticket members or it's for certain groups that are there, 725 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: but it's not a quote unquote open practice. But the 726 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: Texans have had open practice for, you know, for years, 727 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many of them end up 728 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: being open. I mean, it's it's been probably seven, eight 729 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: and nine in the past. I try to think what 730 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: it was in twenty nineteen. We come back after two 731 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: years at the Greenbrier, and I'm pretty sure it's a 732 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: pretty decent number. It's probably six or seven. But there 733 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: were people at almost every practice. Now, the protocols being 734 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: what they are, you've got to stay twenty feet away 735 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: from the players. So I don't know exactly how autographs 736 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: by legends, not by players, So you got to stay 737 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: twenty feet away. We've talked about it, Mark and I 738 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: have about training camp. How that's look, that's gonna be 739 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: for us, just where we broadcast from what we can see, 740 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: what media is allowed to go to practice, all that 741 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of stuff remains to be seen. But I saw 742 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: this tweet as a reply from a guy I followed 743 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers covers them for Cheeseheads TV's 744 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: names Aaron Nagler. I think you wrote for Bleacher Report. 745 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: Excellent guy, good dude, and been following for a long time, 746 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: and obviously, just because I grew up in Wisconsin, I'm 747 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: always wanting to follow Packers. He responded and said the Packers. 748 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: He's been hearing complaints and Packers are having only thirteen 749 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: open practices. The Giants are having one now hopefully the 750 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: Texans will be having a few more than that. We 751 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what as six Tenants has been calling 752 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: it Camp Cassarrio. I would call it Camp Calario, which 753 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: is Colley and Cassarrio together, which sounds a little bit 754 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: better and it encompasses both of them being near the 755 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: GM and the head coach. But to each their own. 756 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 1: My guess it'll be more than one practice. As long 757 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: as the protocols hold, I would think it's gonna be 758 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: a decent number. Now we don't know exactly what it's 759 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: going to be, but I would imagine it's gonna be 760 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: probably more than one practice. I texted that to Mark 761 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: a couple hours ago, and I wrote to him and said, I, 762 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: if I were an organization, I would be bending over 763 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: backwards for my fans after last year. And look, last 764 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: year really wasn't anybody's fault. It was COVID. I mean, 765 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: COVID just took all that away. We had the protocols, 766 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: It just took everything away that said to be able 767 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: to appease fans and make them happy. Hey, man, come back, 768 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: come back. Watch us if you if you left, come 769 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: on back. We want you back. Man. I would open everything. 770 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: That's just me. That's just me. Giants Man, Not so much, 771 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: Joe Judge. I'm not really happy about having fans and 772 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: open practices. So that's the way they're gonna roll in 773 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: New York. Hopefully it's going to be a little different here, 774 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: but we'll find it out. We'll get that information to 775 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: you as soon as we get it set later this month. 776 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys for being here. It's been great thanks 777 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: to Mark, to my guys back in studio, y'all did 778 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: a great job. To you guys listening, you are the best. 779 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow and it's always go Texans,