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Speaker 1: day was my birthday, um and the next day two

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Speaker 1: of the best hip hop producers of all time share

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Speaker 1: the same birthday, Large Professor and DJ Premier. I mean

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Speaker 1: the fact that their birthday it makes sense. These two

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Speaker 1: funky cats musical, I mean these are musicians. Um So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little thing to tribute, give a

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Speaker 1: little tribute to them. Happy birthday. Shout out to both

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Speaker 1: of them. Large Professor and uh DJ Premier And I

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Speaker 1: want to do my five favorite Premier Large Professor beats

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Speaker 1: and Moody, you do your five favorite uh we got three,

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Speaker 1: but I'll help you out. Okay, Well what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give your ask three? Okay, well then i'll

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Speaker 1: you only got three fucking beats that you could give

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Speaker 1: the great Large Professor. These are my three favorite, like

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Speaker 1: the best that I like. But you can't do five? No, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, okay, go oh you're up one, I'll do one.

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Speaker 1: Come clean you know little dap j ru oh j

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Speaker 1: route with that like water torture. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: illest beats out and the way that drums is chopped

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Speaker 1: up to the way it came in with that dude,

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Speaker 1: dude due yeah, dude do. That's a classic fucking banger.

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Speaker 1: If you want to prove to me you could rhyme

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Speaker 1: just get on that beat. That's like, that's like that

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Speaker 1: should be easy pickings for any MC. I'm gonna go first,

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Speaker 1: my first favorite beat by Large Professor because I have

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Speaker 1: sentimental reasons. Is Halftime by naas the reason why I

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Speaker 1: say halftime by Nas first of all ill song. It

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Speaker 1: will be opening credit. It's to the first time you

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Speaker 1: ever saw me, Michael Rapper. I had to make it

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Speaker 1: about myself. No first time opening credits to zebra Head.

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Speaker 1: You hear the song halftime by Nasty Nas and starts

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Speaker 1: off Nasty Nos in your Area produced by the Great

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Speaker 1: Large Professor. All Right, what's your second favorite beat? New

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Speaker 1: York State? One of the best songs ever with that

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Speaker 1: that piano and that the cool and the gang anti

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Speaker 1: drums all chopped hard as that ship is fucking It

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Speaker 1: really exemplifies There's been a lot of songs that have

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Speaker 1: had New York in it that captures that time in

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Speaker 1: hip hop and what the city was like in regards

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Speaker 1: to hip hop and and and the culture and what

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Speaker 1: was going on in in in in the streets. Literally

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Speaker 1: like it was grimy, was uplifting, was funky, it was moving. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, And that's what came out. Like everybody was

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Speaker 1: was hyped up for NAS for that first album. Right,

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Speaker 1: was just like Yo, he was picking produces, picking beats, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's what came out, so everybody was happy. We

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Speaker 1: was satisfied with that. You know the thing about Large Professor,

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Speaker 1: he was producing for Coolgi Rap and Polo and Eric

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Speaker 1: B and Rock Kim when he was like sixteen seventeen

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Speaker 1: years old. Like I, I had the pleasure of interviewing

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Speaker 1: him when I was doing The Beat Trimes in Life

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Speaker 1: the Travels of a Chopical Quest and a lot of

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Speaker 1: his stuff, like everybody in the film got cut out.

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Speaker 1: He told me some fucking stories man during that that

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Speaker 1: gave me the goose bumps. And he's so he's such

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Speaker 1: a good storyteller because it doesn't get more New York

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Speaker 1: and more hip hop then Large Professor. Listening to that

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Speaker 1: dude talk, he could fucking like he he could literally

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Speaker 1: like read read a menu from like your dinner, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make it sound good the way he speaks,

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Speaker 1: the way he emphasizes all his ship. So, um, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Now I'm trying to find I heard

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Speaker 1: you know they say it was uncredited. I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: might have had some other hands in it. But I

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Speaker 1: gotta go with In the Ghetto by Eric being rock him.

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Speaker 1: That's a fucking banger. Carried black sample with the bill

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Speaker 1: with his drums. Kissing my love one of my favorite lines.

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Speaker 1: When I had sex, I left my name on next

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Speaker 1: my trademark was left throughout the projects. That's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite lines. And sweet like that's a motherfucker all right.

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Speaker 1: What's your third? You're you're, you're, You're doing five. You're

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Speaker 1: doing five. You gotta do five. It's their birthday. It's

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Speaker 1: just as many good one you can do five. Speak

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Speaker 1: your clouds with j Ru, Little Dap and the Late Guru. Yo.

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Speaker 1: He just manned it the way he makes you see.

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Speaker 1: But one thing, like I want to hark back to Yo,

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Speaker 1: all of his ship is funky, you see, because this

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Speaker 1: is funk and this is this is a musician. This

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Speaker 1: is like when when he's bleeding through his beats, his production,

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Speaker 1: this is a piece of his soul speaks for itself. Yo.

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Speaker 1: It ain't just looping, Yo. If you know these records,

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Speaker 1: you can appreciate the artistry and how he is stripping

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Speaker 1: ship down and building it back up and fashioning it

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Speaker 1: to fit. That's the art of sampling. Ain't just looping.

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Speaker 1: My third favorite song produced by Large Professor and we're

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Speaker 1: going off the dome here, just a friendly game of baseball.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when he did it for main Source. Extravagant production,

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Speaker 1: extravagant production. That song is timeless. The production is incredible

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Speaker 1: Main Source. If you've never heard the Breaking Adams album,

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Speaker 1: get it, get it and just don't don't don't funk

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Speaker 1: with it. Just play it on a loop player game.

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Speaker 1: Don't funk with this is not one of these albums

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Speaker 1: where it needs to be touched. That is one of

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Speaker 1: the uh perfect albums that that doesn't get talked about.

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Speaker 1: Just get that fucking album. Okay, number number three, No,

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Speaker 1: you're on number four, I'm on four for Large pro h.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a simple beat. It never gets old ever,

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Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever, ever ever gets old. Classic live

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Speaker 1: at a barbecue. Main Source. Wow, he produced that ship beautiful.

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Speaker 1: He's like a scientist. We got the glasses, the afro,

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Speaker 1: so I heard what what's specially? I heard those records,

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Speaker 1: I heard the drums, I heard William ships come from Yo.

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Speaker 1: He made them ships sound harder right and and amped

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Speaker 1: because I know what what what it is man, we

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Speaker 1: gotta get him on the goddamn podcast. We gotta get him,

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Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta start, we gotta start getting more

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Speaker 1: people on here. I would love to sit down with

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Speaker 1: large pro. He told me a story about producing for

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Speaker 1: Rock Kim, and I don't want to do the whole story,

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Speaker 1: but I'll just say this. He said, when he came

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Speaker 1: He took out his cell phones. He had a couple

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Speaker 1: of them. This is when the cell phones were like gigantic,

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Speaker 1: and when not everybody had the cell phones. It would

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Speaker 1: be like if somebody had, like you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: an iPhone like twelve, like no one had cell phones,

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Speaker 1: Like you're like, oh ship. And then he said he

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Speaker 1: took he had a red sweatshoo on. And then he

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Speaker 1: said Rock Kim took his rhyme book out of his

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Speaker 1: And I was like, when he I remember what he

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Speaker 1: told me, that gave me the fucking goose bumps because

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Speaker 1: I was like, of course, of course Rock Kim's rhyme

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Speaker 1: book is in his zip lock. He cares it should

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Speaker 1: be it should be locked in a vault in this Smithsonian.

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Speaker 1: My number four for a premiere is Freddie Fox. Bumpy

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Speaker 1: Knuckles came out. I think this came out. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: part of my life. The song is called Yo. He

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Speaker 1: made this thing is it's like obscure. You don't really

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Speaker 1: know it. But the production he made a baseline from

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Speaker 1: understand what he did, like a baseline from out of nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's so extravagant. It was ill man. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna argue with that. I'm gonna do my last five.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do too. And I could go on and

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Speaker 1: on and on about Large Professor, but I was thinking

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Speaker 1: I want to do it's it's a song that it

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Speaker 1: was just like a one off, and I remember it

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Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Faking the funk on the White

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Speaker 1: Men Can't Jump soundtrack produced by Large Professor. You're faking

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Speaker 1: the funk talking that extra large ship. You're probably a pump.

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Speaker 1: You just said that though, right, I didn't say faking

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Speaker 1: the funk. I would live at the barbecue. Oh oh

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Speaker 1: yeah that's right. Yeah, Yo, that's a motherfucker right there.

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Speaker 1: Um and and then also you know he produced so

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Speaker 1: much ship with Tribe, Like there was ship he did

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Speaker 1: with Tribe. But like I'm sure him and Q Tip,

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Speaker 1: like you know, they shared credits on you know, Midnight Marauders.

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Speaker 1: His fingerprints are all all on that right Extra P

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Speaker 1: Funky so so uh But that's my top five. You

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Speaker 1: got one more to go. I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to people. Got one, Okay for Premiere. For Premiere is

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Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my favorites. When I first started

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Speaker 1: to hear this cat DJ Premier is in Deep Concentration,

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Speaker 1: nice jazzy. I think the sample is Ramsey Lewis, but

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Speaker 1: that when I heard that that's the first album that's

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Speaker 1: like ninety, I was like, Yo, this guy loves it

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Speaker 1: and he did so much. He did ship for both

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Speaker 1: of them, did stuff, uh Premier to stuff with Big

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Speaker 1: Show Business a G. I know, Large Pro did that,

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Speaker 1: did that couple of joints with with d I, T.

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Speaker 1: C and and and all those you we're not fact

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Speaker 1: checking m O P. He's got his hands all over

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Speaker 1: m O P. I mean kicking the door. I think

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Speaker 1: he did for Biggie and he did he did Caress

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Speaker 1: when MCS act like you don't know one of his

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Speaker 1: best songs, one of his uh best songs. So happy

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Speaker 1: birthday to both of those dudes. We only touched touched

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Speaker 1: the surface of what you did. Um open invitation to

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Speaker 1: the Iron Reports Stereo podcast. Nothing but so much respect

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Speaker 1: to both of you. Keep doing it, keep it boom Babby,

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Speaker 1: keep it funky and what Stay in our lane? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stay in your lane, but that's our lane, they created it,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's why I like talking

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Speaker 1: you and you and Moses think. You just made me

423
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Speaker 1: think of that film that film with Quest Love Yes

424
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Speaker 1: Likes A Various move five is very hot. Shout out

425
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Speaker 1: to beat Travels with Life, the Travels of Travelical Quest,

426
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Speaker 1: which quality got cut out of because when I interviewed him,

427
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Speaker 1: another technical difficulty. His whole interview was like there was

428
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Speaker 1: like some music. That's okay because because because you're gonna

429
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Speaker 1: have to do the documentary on me one of course,

430
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Speaker 1: man of course, man shout out to quest Love. What

431
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's a good dude right there. He lost

432
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Speaker 1: his father Todays Restipeace of the Andrews. You know quest

433
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Speaker 1: Love is he's the person who introduced me to Twitter.

434
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: He said, quality, you gotta get on Twitter. I said

435
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: it was Twitter. He said it's perfect for you and

436
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: he and he told me that three times before I

437
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: got and now a million followers later. Shout out to

438
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Speaker 1: quest Love. All right, so what were you doing in

439
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Speaker 1: South Africa? In South I had never been to South

440
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Speaker 1: Africa before twenty five hour flight? Yeah it was. It

441
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: was because I had to come to Austin and I

442
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: had to get here by some time, so I had

443
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: to pick the flight that work. Okay? Uh, you know,

444
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, I've been in South Africa many times performing

445
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, I performed several times. What was it?

446
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: What was like? What was the what was the thing

447
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: that you were most surprised and pressed about when you've

448
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: performed in South Africa and when you're performing in South Africa,

449
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: are you like, I cannot believe that hip hop has

450
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: taken me this far. You gotta bug out with that,

451
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: right Yeah? Yeah. I went to South Africa in two

452
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Speaker 1: thousand one with Black Orchust myself, Boots from the Cool

453
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Speaker 1: Black Thought, from the Ruge j Rut of Damage. We

454
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: went out there. We did a Dead Press went out there.

455
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Speaker 1: We went to the Racist of Conference where Colin and

456
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Powell had walked out the Racist of Conference. Um. We

457
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: went to Erman, We went to Joe Burgh. We went

458
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Speaker 1: to Cape Town. Um, tickets was too expensive. Just stick

459
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: man from Dead Press. He was like, we're got performing

460
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: his trees for free. We went to Sueto. You know

461
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he performing the streets were free.

462
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Went to Nelson Mandela Credere. Are you serious? Yeah? This

463
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: was two thousand one. Black Orcus Dream Hampton was there

464
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: right right. Um, you know that was that was That

465
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Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing. Shout out to Malcolm X grassroots

466
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Movement because they took me that. They took me to

467
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: the Cuba. We went to Cuba. We performed the Cuban

468
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Festival. So you know what I'm saying, that's

469
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: crazy man. All right. So so this trip I gotta ask,

470
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Speaker 1: did you see y'a seen baye a k A most Deaf? Yeah,

471
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: that's where I went. Okay, so so how is most Deaf? Oh?

472
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: He's great. He's grand man. He out there with his family.

473
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: He out there working on art, working on music. Shout

474
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Speaker 1: out to Ferrari Shepard. They got a uh website, uh

475
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: country called earth Um and that's where most is. Y'all

476
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: seen is really releasing a lot of his music and

477
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: his art. He was out there painting. Really, Yeah, he's

478
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: out there painting. He's doing it. He's doing this. He's

479
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: being an artist. He's like an artist. He separated himself

480
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: completely from the music industry. He doesn't he's not making music.

481
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: He's making music, but he's separated from the industry. People

482
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: get disenchanted with that. And the music industry is just

483
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: it's just like the film industry. But I feel like

484
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: the music industry just. I mean that. I don't want

485
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: to curse so much. But that Sean Parker is that

486
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: his name? That that napster guy. He's responsible for all this.

487
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: He's the one that did this. He's Sean Parker's somebody.

488
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: He said it all. He Sean Parker proved that the

489
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Emperor has no clothes. You know what I'm saying. He

490
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: proved that it's just smoking mirrors saying that's what he did,

491
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: and they and he was able to take advantage of

492
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: flaws in the system, no doubt these guys. Maybe the

493
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: last duo, Yeah that really black Star one of the

494
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: forgetting another duo that that came after black Star? Uh?

495
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: Who that was? That was three people? Who Little Brother? Right?

496
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: They were good? That was three? That was three. They

497
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: were good. They were good. But I'm talking about like

498
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: a PMD like that type of see now, I see

499
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: now you can you can make it, making a black

500
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: man blush talking about put me in a category with EPM.

501
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: You're like quality. You could have perspective. I'm not gonna

502
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: say you may own that, but you have to have

503
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: perspective on it. Now. It's like that album and what

504
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: you did individually and what you continue to do individually

505
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: most it. You know, I was thinking about and I

506
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about in regards to you, but I was

507
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: thinking the other day of like, I want to do

508
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: a playlist of full albums that are top to bottom

509
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: albums that you could truly listen to top to bottom

510
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: like I did that on my on my tumbling page.

511
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: Can I get it? Can I get a link or something?

512
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: If you just google? Tell him quality top twenty five

513
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: albums all the time. Okay, give me what are some

514
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: of them on there? I don't remember all of them.

515
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Give me five of them that are on this albums okay,

516
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: because I did the singles and did top hip hop songs.

517
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: I did a hundred hip hop songs and I did

518
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: those numbers. Might not be act. Just want time about

519
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: this on top albums wit so, I want to help

520
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: the people listen, this is on top of okay, cool

521
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: album was Give me five of them? Um, we know

522
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: you've been on a fight. It was takes a nation

523
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: of millions of holders back. Okay, I was on their

524
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: um reasonable doubt Okay, illmatic, okay, um illmatic. Yo, I

525
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: gotta tell you it's time goes on it ages well, yes,

526
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Mecca and so Pe Rock and Seal Smooth examples, Freestyle

527
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Fellowship in Inner City Grios. I gotta be honest with you.

528
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that album. Well should I know it? Well,

529
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: it depends, I don't. I kind of know your hip hop,

530
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: you know my taste. I know your hip hop and

531
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: my cynical I'm a cynical hip hop guy, yes you are.

532
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: And you know what I like? Yes, yes, I have

533
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: an idea. I like that boom back see freestyle. Fellowship

534
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: is a jazzy hip hop album. Okay, but I appeals

535
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: to my sensibilities. But I'm under the jazz though my jazz,

536
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: I did. I did spend three years of my life

537
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: pulling my hair out making a record on Tribe. Yes,

538
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: so the jazz, yeah, okay, but what do you like?

539
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: But what do I like? Yeah? He likes I like back,

540
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: but he likes mobb Deep No no no, but I

541
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: mean and Lu Tang and Buttic. That's that's album. That's

542
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: make sure of every category, Large professor, you know what

543
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Breaking Adams is on the list black Yes, that's a

544
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: great album all right. So in terms of uh uh

545
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: that boom bat that sounds I'm not even a gangster

546
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: rap dude, like I'm like more like, if I had

547
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Speaker 1: to say my albums, I would say Minna Marauders, I

548
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: would say Black Star. I would say Midnight Marauders is perfect.

549
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Is the pop version of low end theory, explain expounds

550
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: is low end theory is that Charlie Mingus like that

551
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: wrong card, that like that low end theory, like you

552
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: have to really know about music to get it. So

553
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: even that even Scott Pager and and everything is fair

554
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: as a great record, I don't like, I've never liked

555
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: everything else on the and then and then, um, Scott Pager,

556
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: that's some that's some wrong card, Charlie Mingus Jazz baseline.

557
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: So it was it was in the theme of the record.

558
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: But what they did with Midnight Muraders with lowing theory,

559
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: they blew up and they were able to tour. They

560
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: were already torn, but lowing theory. They had some hit

561
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: records Cannot kick It. I think no, that was on

562
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: the first one. Cannot kick It was on People's SINCTI.

563
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: But they had butter and jazz and these records check

564
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: the rhyme. You know what I'm saying. The scenario these

565
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: records went crazy, album went platinum. So now they tore

566
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: and torn too when they tore in the world and

567
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: they stay on stage. Now now they on arena stages.

568
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: So like, oh, we could do what we do, but

569
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: just make it more accessible, make it more I won't say.

570
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say glossy, because not glossy about it,

571
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: but it's it's brighter, it's brighter, it's more, it's more

572
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: fun sounding like Midnight Midnight Marauders is like it's got

573
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of it's just it's tight, man, it's tight.

574
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: When you're when you're making a record, how many And

575
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: they ask a questions if you have to, if you

576
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: have to give a guest man, or maybe you know

577
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: for sure, how many songs do you think you've made

578
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: in your career where they're your own black star song

579
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: that came out, No songs that have come out? So

580
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: has it come out thousands? Are you serious? I have

581
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand songs that come out. So when

582
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: you're making a song and you're like, whether it's a

583
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: Todler quality song or a guest on someone else's song,

584
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: how aware of you? How much perspective are you on?

585
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: How is this is a special song? Like when you're

586
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: making get By, which is arguably the biggest quality song.

587
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: What'd you saying? Yes, I mean it's a beautiful to

588
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: feel it that Uh. For your question, that record is

589
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: a great example because without a doubt, I felt like

590
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: that record was important for the culture, important for my career.

591
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I was on top of Kanye West every day, like, Yo,

592
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: what's up? Let me get that beat? Let me get

593
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: that beat. I explaining, you heard the beat first. I

594
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: heard the beat first. Um, Kanye came to my sessions.

595
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm met Kanye. He came looking for most Death. Most

596
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Death wasn't there that day. Um. He was like, I

597
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: got some beats, he said, play some beats. Every beat

598
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: he played was crazy. I had have felt that way

599
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: since I since I met how You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

600
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I had. I was like, Yo, this is how are you?

601
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: How are you amateur? But these beats? Is this this

602
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: level of quality? And then he told me that he

603
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: did records with UH, with Derek Angeletti, and he did

604
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: records on Beatie Segue album, The Truth and all that.

605
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, the reason I'm like those is my

606
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: favorite joints. Like, okay, so you've done my f You've

607
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: done a lot of my favorite joints for dudes. You

608
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um. And then he gave me.

609
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: He gave me Gorilla mons Soon Rap, good to you.

610
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: All those records he game and we didn't have get by.

611
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: He played me get by Um the track for it,

612
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this is beautiful, and he

613
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, um, this beat, I'm holding it. Mariah Carey

614
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: wants to speat, Farrel Match wants to speak. There's a

615
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of interest in this beat. So I'm not sure.

616
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: For like a month, I was calling every couple of

617
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: days like what's up with that beat? What's up with

618
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: that beat? And after like a month, I really really

619
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: really stayed on him about that track because when I

620
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: remember hearing, I was like, you need us and then

621
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: and then it was like the gospel, you know what

622
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, we need some gospel, you know.

623
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: And Kanye wanted to put the Harlem Boys Choir on it.

624
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: We couldn't afford them, you know what I'm saying. He

625
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: went to put them on his album though he got

626
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: when he got some money. We have some of money,

627
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I said, we couldn't afford them back then.

628
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: And and I mean, if you if you don't know

629
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: that song Get by toler Quality produced by Kanye West,

630
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean the song the remix. There's such a like

631
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: when when you when you hear a beat like that,

632
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: do you know, like I want this to be an

633
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: uplifting soul Does this happen organically? Or like you hear

634
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: it and you're like, how does that? How does that

635
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: work from a musician's point point of view, Like are

636
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: you like you hear the beat, You're obviously in love

637
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: with the beat, and then are you like is it

638
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: just are you like I want this to be a positive,

639
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: uplifting song. I'd say uplifting. It's like an uplifting song. Yeah,

640
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't. That wasn't my attention when I first heard

641
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: the beat. When I first heard it, it just felt

642
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: good and the whole get by refriend like that the hook.

643
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: This morning I woke up, Kanye wrote that, Um, he

644
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: was like, yo, this ship when why I had laid

645
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: I was like, just to get it by, just that

646
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: as soon as I heard the beat, that's what I heard.

647
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: So I heard just to get by. So I was like,

648
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: I wrote around that around just to get That's why

649
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: the first verses. I go back to that in the

650
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: first verse a lot, just to get by that like

651
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: a few times in the first verse when I when

652
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I laid that basic idea, Kanye sang that hook this morning,

653
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I had a version for a couple of months, which

654
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: is Kanye singing the hook, doing all the parts. He

655
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: was doing all the parts, and there he laid that out.

656
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: We were the tapes of that man. You got somewhere

657
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, But then we had to we had

658
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: to shout to Kendrick Royce, a good friend of mine.

659
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: She came through and made the singers, uh, you know.

660
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: And when you did get by with Kanye before he

661
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: was a beast beast beast, huge star as he is now,

662
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: he's a monster start. Would you ever ever I suspected,

663
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: I mean somebody in hip hop to get so big,

664
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: so famous and like like it's like you know, like

665
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: that big Etherric you know, it's not just I never

666
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: thought that hip hop would take it to this. Like

667
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: I always think about when I see jay Z like

668
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: these places, I'm like, this is not, this is not

669
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: this is a first his first generation, Like he came

670
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: up behind Kane. He's my like he's been there from

671
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: the anception. So I trip out when I like his success.

672
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by it, but I'm just like the

673
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: enormity of a hip hop star from where it came from,

674
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: like from like Bismarck or like you know, guys like

675
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: Sean Price or like guys like Black Moon, right, and

676
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: you can name somebody then like jay Z's like surpassed

677
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: all of it, and Kanye's sort of in the same world.

678
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Would you ever have imagined he become this sort of

679
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: this figure, he's like beyond hip hop now, it's like

680
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: this figure. You want the honest answer, Yes, yes, you

681
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: did you and you know why? Why? Because and this

682
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: is is all everything I'm saying is true, true talk,

683
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: real talk. He said he was everything that you see

684
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Kanye West doing back then. He said it, He's I'm

685
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest rapper ever in the world. I'm

686
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: going to change the game. I'm gonna I'm gonna do fashion.

687
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna design sneakers. I got the song called Jesus Walks.

688
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on my second album called College Dropout.

689
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: This is before I'd even i mean called Late Registration.

690
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: This before he this, before he even had a deal

691
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: for College Dropout. He was telling me the singles. He

692
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: told me everything that I was, everything that Kanye did

693
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: from the time he was touring me to you know,

694
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: eight o Waights, like everything I was, I was manifest

695
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: destiny he said, He said every single thing. The only

696
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: thing I think that he didn't have mapped out was

697
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: the accident of course, but when that he went that

698
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: car accident happened, That's what set his career off. Because

699
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: when the car accident happened, he didn't do the yre,

700
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: do the Wire. He took it to Dame Dash and

701
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: and they was like, that's cool, just mix show record.

702
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: Took it to Deaf Jam and that's cool was a

703
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: mixed shore record. Kanye West went and paid for video,

704
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, because he's making rap money at that point

705
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: producing when it paid for the video, and then when

706
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: when it paid for video promotion and went pay for

707
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: single promotion all on his own own, Kanye pay for

708
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: that on his own. So his first single, through the Wire,

709
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: he he self promoted it like no, this is a hit,

710
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't care what else. And from that point and

711
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: then and then six months later he performed it on

712
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: the Grammys with Shakaka. Wow. That's a big time all right, Okay, yeah,

713
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, you forget about that because because I think,

714
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: like for me, I find his persona and and and

715
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the music. It's like church and State. It's like, first

716
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: of all, like I think the music in general. I

717
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: think all across the board, the music, the hip hop music.

718
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I me, it's so concerned about the actual music. I

719
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: have no agenda. I don't rap. I'm not in the

720
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: music business. I don't know any any stake in any

721
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: music business. I'm just a fan. It means so much

722
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: to me on a in my blood cell level. And

723
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: when I see where it's going, it concerns me. It

724
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: bothers me and and and I feel like guys like you,

725
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: most Staff, jay Z, Kanye, Q Tip, the guys that

726
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: are still relevant, that are still talented in this stuff,

727
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to sort of balance it. Because what's

728
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: going on now where it's gonna turned into it's I

729
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: think we're already at hair metal at hair metal years ago.

730
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, rap was like heavy. Rap was like

731
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: WWF twenty years ago, I said in the lyrics, Then

732
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: what do we now? The same thing, just a little

733
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: bit more refined for the Internet generation. I think you

734
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: would will agree with me when you write artists have

735
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: a certain responsibility, but artists are influenced by the same

736
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: fact factors in the culture as the average fan is

737
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: um I think I think the responsibility here is the

738
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: fans and the kasumers. I think people vote with day dollars,

739
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: you know. I think you have victories. You have j

740
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Cole going platinum, same as Taylor Swift and then doing

741
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: HBO shows and doing selling now Madison Square Garden. You

742
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: have Kendrick lamar Win in eleven. But you also have

743
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: music that we as a certain age and from a

744
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: certain region, didn't grow up on. We didn't grow up

745
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: on the sounds on the Louisiana bounce sounds or the

746
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: club sounds that was in Atlanta back in the days.

747
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: And now what you see is that Atlanta is the

748
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: hotbed for hip hop music, whereas it used to be

749
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: in New York. At one point it was the West Coast,

750
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At one point it was

751
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Sloop and Dre and them in Death Row era was

752
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: like you had to sound like it was from West

753
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Coast to be high. Now you gotta sound like you

754
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. The strip club culture and the DJs, and

755
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: the way the way the industry is and the and

756
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: the fact that the South is bigger than New York.

757
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: If you think about New York hip hop, people who

758
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: love New York hip hop we had. We had besides

759
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: creating it, which we always get props of credit for,

760
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: we have to besides creating it and sustained in the

761
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: culture for years before anybody got into it. We had errors.

762
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: We had the Biggie error, we had the naz boutang,

763
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: and there were certain errors and that everybody respect. But

764
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: it only goes besides EPM do who sampling funk records

765
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: like Dr Dre and them. A lot of stuff only

766
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: went from New York, Baltimore, Connecticut, Virginia that tries to

767
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: area like the East Coast, down south. When you talk

768
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: down south, you talk in Miami all the way to Arizona,

769
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: you're talking all of that. You're talking to Alabama, Mississippi.

770
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Now in North Carolina, South Carolina. So there's more. There's

771
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: a lot more radio stations. Think about all the radio

772
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: all the A, B and C radio stations in those

773
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: areas that makes as and then and then that music

774
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: and then New York and the New York shut it

775
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: out for a long long time. So they had to

776
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: develop their own industry now to have their own stars.

777
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: They have their own industry. They owned systems of Paola,

778
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: they own things. So now a record like a young

779
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: Jeez might come out of nowhere to a lot of

780
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: people in New York, but really he was already selling

781
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: out venues with mixtapes. Does it frustrate you as as

782
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: somebody that is a Brooklyn mcne is identified as a

783
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Brooklyn m C with that voice that flow, does it?

784
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: Does it frustrate you concern? You? Am I a lone

785
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: wolf with my my concern and and my hair pulling

786
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: that that sound is gone or not? Because I mean

787
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: I just look, I just I just I heard a

788
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: new Joey Badass record that felt like, you know, there's

789
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there doing it. It's dead.

790
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: But the way that we received music, I know that

791
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: it's different. That's all it is. Like the music you

792
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: like used to be marketed to you, you know. But

793
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: the craftsmanship to me, like like there's a lot of

794
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: really good mcs to me, the production value, the craftsmanship

795
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: of a guru, of of a premier, of a pete rock,

796
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: of a large professor of a cute the wolf as

797
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: of the daylock guys, the whole, the whole click in

798
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: terms of the you know whoever was putting together which beat.

799
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to start any sort of. You know,

800
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: every group has there. I made to be so like

801
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: the Daylock Collective, the Tribe Collective. You know, we got

802
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Drew Hawk coming on next for the duck Down. I'm

803
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: finally gonna asked one where where it was a black

804
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: Moon record? I waited and waited and waited. What happened?

805
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: The first one was so good, talking about perfect record,

806
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: it still didn't come out. The second one. I'm still

807
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: waiting for it. I'm like a crazy, crazy wild rabbit

808
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: jew here, where's my black record? Second is me and

809
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Bertie's in He's I love them too. Yeah, we're fantastic.

810
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: That buck Shot Shorty was some. It was great Buckshot

811
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: still great Buckshop buckshopping on stage like a rock star. Yeah,

812
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where this rand talk Buckshot is a

813
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: rock star? But am I alone with disquality? Like? Don't

814
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: like because there's no there's no record sales, right, even

815
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: even the biggest of the biggest barely sells anymore records.

816
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: Why not just make the record that you think is

817
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: the dopest. I think a lot of people are doing that.

818
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't radio. What what stop

819
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: listening to radio? I got I got my daughter. She

820
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: loves that, But then that's that's she's she's she's supposed

821
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: to she's supposed to have my own thing. You old,

822
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: are you supposed to be? Like? That's not as good

823
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: as when I grew up listen to because you know,

824
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: let me tell you why. When you were a teenager,

825
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: a college age, what you were listening to was attached

826
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: to your personality. It was attached to your identity. You're like,

827
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm this type of person because I listen to nine

828
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: and you're growing as a person, you're learning yourself, you

829
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that music, and it also

830
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: is attached to nostalgia. It's attached to not to you know,

831
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: we all we got have great times, but it's tested

832
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: to in many people's lives the best times, and they

833
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: your experiences, and it's based on your emotional level when

834
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: you heard that song. It's based on where you grew

835
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: up at and your influences. So you gotta figure all that.

836
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: So your daughter is not the same. She grew up

837
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: with a whole different set of influences. And guess what's

838
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen to your daughter when she's forty fifty. She's

839
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell her kids. Yo, you think that's hot. The

840
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Fetty White period, Fetty White was cracking. That ain't no fetty,

841
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: that's just fake fetty wha saying. I like Fettie. Why

842
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Speaker 1: we say he's a special kid that made it big.

843
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: I like I like fet I like that six seven nine,

844
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: I like I like I like a lot of I

845
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: like I like Freddie. I think he deal he could

846
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: rap and he does that single. Yeah, sometimes it sounds

847
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: like um retard. I just gotta say it while he's

848
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: like this the Iron Rapports stereo podcast. I've heard it before.

849
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: All right, politics, Yo, your man Donald Trump, that's your man,

850
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: d Trump? Yo, man, doesn't he sound like a drug

851
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: dealer from like the nineties? Yo? D Trump's coming, Yo,

852
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna come with sounds like he SAIDs like a

853
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: super villain, a billionaire super villain in the movies, Like

854
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: in the Muppets, they had the good name namea name,

855
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: do mean text text oil man or something like right

856
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: like like it's like it's like he's like, I'm super

857
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: villain from a Superman movie and he looks like a

858
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: super villain. Right he got the o G like he's

859
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: the gene Hackman He's like he's Gene Hackman and Superman too.

860
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: So you've been sort of you've been sort of you know,

861
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: you put yourself out there and sort of you know,

862
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: now you're you're one of the people that you're you

863
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: have a voice in politics, you know, like you know

864
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: you you I've seen you on Bill Moore dropping knowledge

865
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: check Don Lemon, your man, Don Lemon. You know what's

866
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: funny about that? That was what happens to me. I

867
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: was like, yo, qualities on CNN. You know, you know

868
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: what happens to me. Since then, people tell on Don

869
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Lemon to me, like people snitch on him, like whenever

870
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: he sunk up, because he do a lot. Whenever he

871
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: do my Twitter feed blow up like I know do

872
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: like I know Don Lemon sucked up my Twitter. They'd

873
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you see here boy, you see and

874
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: they tell they tell on them to me. That was

875
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: a great moment in Black America. Explained the moment, explain

876
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: back history, moment particulated what happened there um quality and

877
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: and and and what what happened and like were you

878
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of like when it sort of blew up for

879
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: the next few days and you know that everything is

880
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: so instantaneous and Twitter and Instagram. Um, well, honestly, you know,

881
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: where were you? What was it for? The flu didn't

882
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: see it? Um? First of all, recipes in Mike Brown.

883
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Because Mike Brown, along with Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice

884
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: and Sandra Bland and Rikia Boyd and all these people

885
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: who have we've now seen and we have a lot

886
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: more information to dad about their deaths. It spurred people

887
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: to action, know what I'm saying. And Mike Brown's situation

888
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: was interesting because the police clearly murdered this just this

889
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: boy seventeen years old, left him in the street for

890
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: six hours, left his body. UM at the Department of

891
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: Justice went into the Ferguson Police department. They found a

892
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: history of racism. But not just not just average cop racism,

893
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, like for money, you know, I'm saying, racism

894
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: for profits. There was a whole different situation. UM. And

895
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: so the people of Ferguson were not activists. They were

896
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: working class people and students and people and they who

897
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: just were shocked at this, at this tragedy and this

898
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: systemic oppression. It was shocking to them even though they

899
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: lived in a place they've been living under that, but

900
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was extraordined, broke the camel's back,

901
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was talking on

902
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: social media about how you can't just tweet, how you

903
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: can't just do Facebook post, how you have to be

904
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: there in the street that I was praising the people

905
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: of Ferguson. But it was ironic to me that I

906
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: was talking about that on social media, and I had

907
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: to really assess my situations. I'm like, I'm a perform

908
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm an entertainment, which means I determined my own schedule,

909
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: so there's no excuse for me to not be there.

910
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: If I'm saying people should beat it right. And then

911
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: at Jay Coole, it's funny that Ja Cole went and

912
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: he called me went to went to to the Ferguson

913
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: like Jacole went before me. I think Young Jeez went

914
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: before me too, So I'm not the only m C

915
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: who went. Benzino was down there. I've seen Benzino marching

916
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: the street with the people, what I'm saying. Like, But

917
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: so I went and I was determined to not do press.

918
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: That was I was like, I'm not here as a

919
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: rappers here with the people. So people asking me to

920
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: press the whole time after I was there. For the

921
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: first night I was there, I got into I got

922
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: appended on the ground by the cops. Oh yeah, it

923
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: was crazy, Like the cops put up their gear, you

924
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They rushed the people, they ran.

925
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, I'm getting even trying to rest

926
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: people's me Jessica care more, Rosan Clemente. They threw us

927
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: in the ground for rifles and serious. Yeah, this just

928
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: happened first night I got there. First night I got there,

929
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: were you were you were? You were you scared? Yeah?

930
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: I was that because after beyond, he had my life

931
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: and my body in his possession and he could deside.

932
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: You felt that he could decide at any moment like

933
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: I would. Had the rifle right here, he jumped, you

934
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, and tradition, that's wild. And

935
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: so when that happened, and then the people who I

936
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: was with all got arrested, you know what I'm saying,

937
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: So I couldn't leave, you know what I'm saying. I

938
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: was My plan was to go for one night. I

939
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be out there

940
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: with the people. Everybody gonna see me. I'm gonna tweet

941
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: about it. Then I could say I went and I'm

942
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna go back to going to work, you know what

943
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But after that, I was, I stayed and

944
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: I was there for a few days. I did an

945
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: interview with Democracy Now, uh, which is a great, great outlet.

946
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: People should check out democracy now dot org. Um. I

947
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: did an interview with Joyanne Reid because I respect what

948
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: she do when MSNBC, and then I was done. But

949
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: then CNN kept calling call um. I ignored the calls.

950
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: Corey Smith, you know, my manager, I hadn't heard from

951
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: him a months, called me like this lady called me

952
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: for CNN calling calling call Yeah, shout Smith. So I

953
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: went and did it, and and yeah, don Lemon just

954
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: was you know, he he was, yeah, he just I

955
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: just didn't. I just wasn't. He started talking greasy, he

956
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: was talking, and he was he was talking froggy a little. Yeah.

957
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: It was great, yeah so so. But but you know,

958
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: he said to me after that exchange of the people,

959
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: the people could google and watch it for the self.

960
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: But he said to me, you know it's gonna go viral, right,

961
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because he knew I think

962
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: he knows what buttons to push, you know what I'm saying. Like,

963
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: so it wasn't personal to him, it was it wasn't

964
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: personal to him. I don't think it was. I don't

965
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: think it was personal to him. Do you know if

966
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: he has his hair? Did he brush his hair forward

967
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: and backwards? Because I just a question I have no

968
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 1: I know why I shout out, shout out, to shout

969
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: out to Van Jones because the whole time I was there,

970
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: Van Jones was in the back like stay because I was.

971
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna leave, I believe, and Van Jones is

972
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: the one who was like stay, Okay, okay, cool, all right.

973
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, Hillary, where are you at politically with these

974
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: three guys and gals, these three people, these three candidates, Well, um,

975
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like about Bernie Sanders. Um, he's

976
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: somebody who's um. Not only do I like him as

977
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: as far as I I agree with the vast majority

978
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: of his positions, but I'm very impressed at his ability

979
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: to still be in the race right now. Right last year,

980
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Bernie sounds good, but a socialist saying

981
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: things he's saying. No one's gonna take that seriously, and

982
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: people took it seriously, and millennials took it seriously. They

983
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: don't take it seriously enough for him to win any

984
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: goddamn primaries. You know he's gonna win. I do I

985
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: think he's gonna win if I had to put if

986
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: I if I had to put money in it, No,

987
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. If that hundred thousand you would say,

988
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: who's gonna be the next president, Hillary Clinton? I think

989
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: that would that would be an easy bet. And that's

990
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: not an endorsement of Hillary Clinton. That's not me though

991
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm my support or voice behind Hilary Clinton. That's just

992
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: me being observant. Have you have you been asked to

993
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: get because I gave my public endorsement of Bernie Sanders

994
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: and I thought like it would be like big news,

995
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: you're Bernie Brooke. Wait, No one gave a shit about

996
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: my endorsement. Like I didn't get like Michael Rapp Report

997
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: is finally give us an endorsement. No, Like I had

998
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: to tweet it and then I retweeted myself that was it.

999
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: That's only like I felt like I was gonna get

1000
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: my impolted because I just feel like I feel like,

1001
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: this is what I like about Bernie. I feel like

1002
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: if I sat down with him at the south By

1003
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: Southwest tune in studios and I asked him to explain

1004
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: something to me, I would get an answer that was

1005
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: attainable and that was appropriately honest. I agree with you

1006
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: and and Hillary. I feel like probably doesn't like little kids,

1007
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: and those kind of people always make me nervous. And

1008
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: did you see her? What that girl would Black Lives

1009
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Matter girl. I think she's a super Brettit to grow with.

1010
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: That was brilliant. I mean, I just feel like she

1011
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: she I wouldn't like. I don't feel like she's a

1012
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: puppy person, you know. I feel like she like when

1013
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: when her daughter like, I feel like she won't be like, oh,

1014
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: just drop the grandkids off over the weekend. I don't

1015
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: feel like she likes small. I think she's been I

1016
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: think she's been hardened by politics and being married to

1017
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. He was freaking off and then being a

1018
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Secretary Secretary of State, Like after all that, she went

1019
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: it was just like traveling the world trying to uh

1020
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: push American interests. He was all around the world. You know,

1021
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: it was a very tough job. Um, I think she's older,

1022
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: right and hardened, you know what I'm saying, and she's

1023
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: had to weather a lot um as a as a woman.

1024
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Hillary Clinton. Um.

1025
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of criticism out there about her that

1026
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I think it's accurate, um, including some of the criticism

1027
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: that you just laid out. Um. You know. And as

1028
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: a politician, I think I like Bernie Sanders better as

1029
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: a politician. I I have to I have to agree,

1030
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, the looming Bill Clinton back in the White

1031
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: House factor. I like that, the stability of that in

1032
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: the familiarity Did I say that familiar? How do you say,

1033
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: don't familiar? Familiarity? Oh? Thank you, thank you. Mr Here,

1034
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: here's my two SATs, give you a two sip, Mr Moody.

1035
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: If Hillary wins, it's gonna be riots that Trump sound Trump.

1036
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: He said it. He also says steaks are gonna sell

1037
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: good at the shopper image what he said he's not.

1038
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: He also said I don't trust the Blacks with my money.

1039
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: I needed Jewish guys. What the hepp with the little hatch?

1040
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: Did he say that? He also said all Mexicans are rapist.

1041
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: He also said we should vet all Muslims before we

1042
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: let him in the country. He also said, I love

1043
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: the Blacks, I love the bucks. He's buck wild. How

1044
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: is he doing in the poems? He's going to run

1045
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: for sweeping ship. He's sweeping, Yo, He's gonna run for

1046
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: pre if he doesn't get the nomination, he said, Yo,

1047
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be riots. Well he's kicking that. Well, then

1048
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a bunch of hipsters and and and

1049
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: and and and and you know. I I the fact

1050
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: that he says things like if I don't win, this

1051
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna be right. It's exactly why they're not going to

1052
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: give him the nomination. They're not. They're not, and they're

1053
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: they're looking right now. The GOP is scrambling for any reason.

1054
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: So when them when all this ship he's talking about

1055
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: the GOP, about Fox News, they're gonna get him back

1056
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: for that. When the convention happens, they're gonna be like

1057
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: John ksekasing whatever statements, or they're gonna pick someone and

1058
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: then what they weren't. What they're gonna say is Trump

1059
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: is a bigot, he's inflammatory, he doesn't understand simple basic laws.

1060
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: He he's not a true conservative. He's friends with Hillary Clinton.

1061
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: He you know what I'm saying that they didn't look

1062
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: at his wife. They're gonna bring They're gonna say all

1063
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: that they're just wait waiting for the convention. They're waiting.

1064
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: That's what. That's what I've been saying. I feel like

1065
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: they're just like, let this guy and then ka ka

1066
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: came off. He's gonna be like, they're gonna say that

1067
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: and then and you know what, their base is gonna

1068
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: be upset and be when my starting up. But that's

1069
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: gonna just make them look bad. Right, all right, We're

1070
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna go quality. I can't tell you how much I

1071
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Where what do we? Where are we at? Tonight?

1072
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: South By Southwest? Where the party at, where the performance

1073
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: is at? I'm going to club Bed? Okay, what's the

1074
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: club club Bed? What's what's going on there? Okay? Club Bed?

1075
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: DJ Pillow are you bullshit? I'm gonna take a nap,

1076
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, and

1077
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: then what then what? And then I'm gonna go to

1078
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: the duck down Sean Price Birthdays Extravaganza after Austin Music Hall.

1079
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: We're going to that too, isn't. Is it Nasty Nas performing?

1080
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: I think Nasty Nas is performing. He's shutting it down,

1081
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: all right, yo. Quality. I can't tell you how much

1082
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I hope they didn't take it as

1083
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: an insult when I said you were so on time

1084
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: or not? Did not? I was? You know, I prided

1085
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: myself on punctuality. I mean, but rapper time. He told

1086
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: you he wasn't. I know that. I know that that's

1087
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: the mistake. People think I'm a rapper song of Africa.

1088
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm just saying I'm an international

1089
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Man of Mystery as my official job title. When I

1090
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: come back in this in the country and they say, sir,

1091
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: what is your occupation, I say, international Man of Mystery

1092
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: ebany man Apollo legend. I'm sure that goes over real

1093
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: well with the t s A people. I'm sure you

1094
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: know what. They recognize me now, which is great. They

1095
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: know they used to get arrested. Now they recognize. They

1096
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: give you a little shout out. Now they'd be like,

1097
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: they say, you go ahead, man. They used to be

1098
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: like you right this way sir, as as they should

1099
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: quality as they shift let you through, all right. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the show here and we'll be

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Speaker 1: New York City. We do not plug, we do not support,

1114
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Speaker 1: We do not take sponsorship from anything. We have not tried,

1115
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: and we are not passionate about four hundred and what's good?

1116
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Cap Everything is everything? Man, I'm selling right now, you

1117
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: know south by southwest that what's good? Yo? Where where

1118
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: are you at right now? I'm all over the place,

1119
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Man of Mount Austin. I'm saying the Mountain Sequin. I'm

1120
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: throwing my shuffle down in San Antoni. I'm up in

1121
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Star Crash. I'm moving and coving. Man, you know, shaking

1122
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: and bacon. You dig the great, the great? So cap

1123
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: what's going on in and and in the wonderful, wacky,

1124
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: incredible world of the Wu Tang Clan. Wow, the soccer continues, man,

1125
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: right now. Man, ghost was out here. We did a

1126
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: couple of shows. We are We had emos up, we

1127
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: got the WHO radio things popping off, so visits the

1128
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Speaker 1: l A W wasn't on movies. Uh, it was just

1129
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: out of me too. Um. He did his little bets

1130
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: of code thing and man, goot stay here. So we

1131
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: did like two shows and uh, I mean, come on, man,

1132
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: we're just doing what we threw. I just dropped the

1133
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: joint called the Village, took places. I think the hook

1134
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: golf train I tripped before the clost too has been Betters,

1135
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: the first tip hop album with no hooks. It's crazy

1136
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: Actions had all the way through, like, I gotta check

1137
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: that out. Cut Ward Talent was saying, the whole world

1138
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: radio is here screaming. We're doing big things and we

1139
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: do that every day at the Hookah spot and Um, yeah,

1140
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: anybody's doing we supposed to do. Man. We're working on

1141
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: a new album right now. I think um Ghost is

1142
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna spearhead this project right here. Yo, good man, listen, man,

1143
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question. Cap. You know,

1144
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: we're a long time you know WOU fans and hip

1145
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: hop fans, and what what what? What? What are you

1146
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: excited about in the culture? What? What pisches you off?

1147
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: What disappoints you after you guys being in being in

1148
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: in in this for so long twentysomething years? First of all,

1149
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: did you ever imagine that it would be something that

1150
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: you would be doing? Pretty much? You're gonna be doing

1151
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: this for the rest of your life. You're married to it,

1152
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: whether you guys like it or not. Like like when

1153
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: you when you first started, did you ever think that

1154
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, you guys would still be rocking,

1155
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: will be relevant, still be people that would get everybody

1156
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: excited the way you still do collectively and as individuals.

1157
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: It was being on my comprehension that that we would

1158
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: ever even make it as as a rap group or

1159
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: making as as anything at that point because we grew

1160
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: up on the crime side of the New York Times

1161
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: side was no job thing you have it, So I

1162
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I didn't really see no conduct glory.

1163
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: I didn't see you coming up with the project and

1164
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: going through the job in grivelations. You know, you don't

1165
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: really have a lot of hope. So for us to

1166
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: even make it, and it to be so many of

1167
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: us going through the same struggle at the same time

1168
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: and to make it at the same time, that's that's

1169
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: like one in a million, dude, right, my whole all

1170
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: my childhood friends, those are all my chalent friends. We

1171
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: literally grew up together, I mean from school, from playing

1172
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: the park, from our mother's knowing each other and babysitting

1173
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: each other. That's how far back it goes. So you

1174
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: know when we made it like that and um came

1175
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: together for one common cause, that in itself is a blessing,

1176
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: the gift, and it was crazy. I never and my

1177
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: wildest dreams would have ever thought that we would be

1178
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: the Woutane clan. As far as the condition to music today,

1179
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like it's a little saturated, it's

1180
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: a little watered down. But at the same time, music

1181
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: is evolving and it's gonna continue to evolve. Um, we would.

1182
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: We were the thub thistles coming up at that time,

1183
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, and we and we we was raised on

1184
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: in the crack era. So yeah, so yeah, our music

1185
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, defined that time. Now it's a little more loose,

1186
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: it's a little more foody, pebblished. And we as the

1187
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: pioneers of hip hop, oh it to ourselves to stir

1188
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: up some kind of foundation in that so that the

1189
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: little kids are not going towards you know, feminism, see

1190
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: and and um, you know, hatred and being green. No

1191
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: cap That's what I'm talking about because because for me,

1192
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that concerns me with with the

1193
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: with the music in general is that, you know, first

1194
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: of all, the record sales are done, you know, because

1195
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: the music business is so screwed up, the record sales

1196
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: are done. So like if I you know, like, why

1197
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: not make the records that you're proud of, that you

1198
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: guys that are feel excited about and that the fans

1199
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: like because you know, like Wu Tang, the people that

1200
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: are still relevant, Wull Tank collectively, all you guys, you know,

1201
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: as a collective and individuals. You know, you got NAS,

1202
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: you got jay Z, you got Q Tip, you got

1203
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: guys that are still around that can sort of bring

1204
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: bring the dial back to that boom, back to that

1205
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: hip hop, to that grimy sound. Because one of the

1206
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: things that was so special about all you you know,

1207
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: for obviously thirty six Chambers and then you know, all

1208
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: the all the first, second, and third albums that you

1209
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: got just put out is the musicality, the craftsmanship, and

1210
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: the musicality and the craftsmanship that you guys and the

1211
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: seriousness that you all took as MC's. You know, now,

1212
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: because of Instagram and Twitter and YouTube, anybody could just

1213
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: make a rhyme and the next thing you know, you're

1214
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: on tour. You know, Like for me, you know, it

1215
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: was like life and death when you put out your

1216
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: first album. You knew if it was whacked, you're gonna

1217
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: be working at a grocery store, right, yeah, you better

1218
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: believe it. You better believe it, man. And and even

1219
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: with the Go album, I still experienced some struggling strife.

1220
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: So you know, for me to still be in the

1221
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: game and have an experience homelessness and cab driving and

1222
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: whatsoever and so forth, it was just a humbling experience.

1223
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: To let me know that yo, master art of between

1224
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: the part man. Right, Hey, let me ask you something.

1225
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: Did you see I'm assuming you saw it. Did you

1226
01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: see the uh the n w A Dot film? And

1227
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: what would it take? I can't even imagine because I

1228
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: think that whoever took it on might wind up in

1229
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: in in Bellevue. But what would it take to do

1230
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: a Wu tank film? You know, because whoever do you

1231
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: ever tried to take that or listen, uh the the

1232
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: the n w A movie. I'm sure that was tough,

1233
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: but that was only four of them. You guys, there's

1234
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: there's there's there's so many there's so many personalities. So

1235
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: what did you think of the n w A movie?

1236
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure you guys have been approached

1237
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: about about a Wu Tang movie. Do you think that

1238
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: would ever happen? There's a great possibility, But we need,

1239
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: like we we we need counselors to come in, we

1240
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: need we need the whole social network to really come in.

1241
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: And this this isn't gonna be a village project, right

1242
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: because I'm even thinking, I'm even thinking like bringing the

1243
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: same uh directors, if not directors, some of the casting people,

1244
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: um their their expertise. It's not necessarily the people that

1245
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: they has with their expertise to the Wood Sang movie,

1246
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: being that they already have a direction of what it

1247
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: looks like. So the people who did that, that that

1248
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: Compton movie, they probably we probably need to bring them

1249
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: in along with with Dr Phil and the rest of them. Yeah,

1250
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: you need Dr Phil, you need you need like a few,

1251
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: like a handful of people. You need specialists, so my

1252
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: god nerologists, you need people that make sure everybody's blood

1253
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: is checked and flowing, and you need dietitians. So let

1254
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: me ask you something before I let you go. What

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Speaker 1: what are you listening to? What? What? Dude? What does

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Speaker 1: Capitana the Great listen to? Any you can say it

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Speaker 1: might not even be hip hop. Yeah, I know you're

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Speaker 1: listening to that old soul, Like what do you listen to?

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Speaker 1: Want to know? Look, you already know, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: That's what we all listen to because that's what we've

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Speaker 1: up on. So the majority of the times when we

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Speaker 1: on our tour buses and we're moving and grooving and

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Speaker 1: on them long flights all the way to Japan and

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Speaker 1: Germany and all that, that's what we've been listening to.

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Speaker 1: The how Melvin and the Blue Notes to a top spinning.

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Speaker 1: It just goes on and on. Aside from that. Aside

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Speaker 1: from that, we um, you know, we listened to a

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Speaker 1: lot of tracks. UM. So for fact, we listened to that,

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Speaker 1: you know them hard tracks and um at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, listen, we we do the hip hop

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Speaker 1: thing too, but we like their hard and crunchy most

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Speaker 1: of the time. When it comes down to hip hop,

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Speaker 1: that'd be me playing in on the bus a lot.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the brothers you know, they be in too.

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Speaker 1: We be in two different things. We're reading books, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just it reads a lot and everybody just

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Speaker 1: be into that. The social network immediate thing. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I bring all of the you know, the meditation and

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Speaker 1: spiritualism and prayers and all that into the game. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. All over the world,

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Speaker 1: you guys have been and if you've been to if

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Speaker 1: you've been to every continent with Wu Tang and Capitana

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Speaker 1: and and like your own touff, like, have you been

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Speaker 1: all over the world like during this journey. Now, I

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Speaker 1: haven't been all over the world. I've I've been blessed

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Speaker 1: and grateful to have um been to some of the

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Speaker 1: places I've been, like Japan and Russia and uh France

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Speaker 1: and in Rome and you know, all of those places.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to South America yet, and I haven't

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Speaker 1: been to Africa. I've lost my passport for like twelve years.

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Speaker 1: I got it back for maybe six months. Um, somebody

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Speaker 1: stole my luggage out the car. I just got it

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Speaker 1: back again. And I just got it back again like

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Speaker 1: maybe shoo or three weeks ago, and I haven't I

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Speaker 1: haven't have not yet to get a stamp on it yet.

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Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to flow again. And m you know how it is. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice.

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Speaker 1: You did absolutely, absolutely all rights the happy hour, Michael Rapport,

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Speaker 1: and we're out. It's been a pleasure line from the

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Speaker 1: tune intent happy Hour, the happiest of the happy hour.

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Speaker 1: It's not just happy hour, it's the happiest happy hour.

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Speaker 1: And we're out.