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Speaker 3: Ruben, Omar Junior, Jim Salisbury, toddz Aleki. It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday, June twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. Hope

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Speaker 3: everybody is doing well, Jim Ruben, this is the place

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing well, not talking well because my broadcast

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Speaker 3: I heard that you were you were trying to change it.

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Speaker 3: You put on your pants differently.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, Dude, I did all types of stuff yesterday before

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Speaker 1: Jim.

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Speaker 3: Did you spank your tomatoes any differently? No?

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Speaker 2: But I worked on a little bit. They need a

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Speaker 2: good spanking.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like a good spanking of your tomatoes.

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Speaker 3: If you're wondering what we mean, you gotta have to

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Speaker 3: go back and listen to our.

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Speaker 1: It's a episode.

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Speaker 4: It's a pollination technique. It's tried and.

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Speaker 3: True pollination technique. Very good, very good, Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Jim is all he is all about it. The

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Speaker 3: inning and Thursday series finale. My colleague at MLB dot com,

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Speaker 3: Paul Cassella, wrote that the Phillies became just the tenth

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Speaker 3: you know that brings us to the Parks First Pitch,

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Speaker 3: get into this wild series. In a wild series in Houston,

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Speaker 3: the Phillies played their eighty first game of the season

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Speaker 3: Pitching has been great, offense not you know, a kind

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Speaker 3: We are back. So, Jim, you mentioned Justin Crawford, Ruben,

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Speaker 4: Do you bring him to play left field? And if

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Speaker 1: because not everybody's throwing up. Not everybody back then was

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Speaker 1: throwing one hundred miles an hour, and and some of

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Speaker 1: them actually knew where to throw it. That doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: anymore now they're maximizing. Nobody in the minor leagues is

438
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Speaker 1: working on their command. They're all working on their velocity

439
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Speaker 1: and been and that creates a very dangerous situation for

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Speaker 1: guys rehabbing. Yeah, truth, different game, that's the truth. It's

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Speaker 1: not right. It's part of the horse crap of the game.

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Speaker 1: But that's how it works.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we see in the big seeing the big leagues too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the bullpens is just wherever I

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Speaker 4: can fire, wherever I can see how hard it could

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Speaker 4: light up the spin rates.

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Speaker 1: So don't let me on my pedestal.

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Speaker 3: That's where the money is though, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like all those guys like there's no incentive for them

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Speaker 3: to throw, to work on it because they might not

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Speaker 3: ever get a called to the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: That's where the money is.

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Speaker 7: For James Andrews, right, if you're throwing ninety two as

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Speaker 7: a reliever, I mean, no chance, there's no bullp there's

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Speaker 7: no nobody's gonna be calling up a Clay Conry.

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Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, you know who did

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Speaker 3: a great job, did a great job. You know a

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Speaker 3: lot of those guys in those Bullpens did fantastic jobs.

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Speaker 3: But if you're throwing ninety three, right, you think you

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Speaker 3: think the Phillies front office is going to go, let's

461
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Speaker 3: give this guy a shot and call him up to

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Speaker 3: the big leagues. No chance. And that's not just the Phillies,

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Speaker 3: it's every all thirty teams. They're saying no tracks. So

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Speaker 3: so last in our episode on Wednesday, we had asked

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Speaker 3: a We got a lot of questions from from our

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Speaker 3: great audience, and then we had several several left over.

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Speaker 3: So I want to say we could tear through a

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Speaker 3: few of these. How many arms will they get at

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline? That's from Phillies Baseball Talk on X

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Speaker 3: How many arms do you think they get? Do you

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Speaker 3: think they just get one? Do you think they go

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Speaker 3: out and get multiple. We've talked a lot about the outfield,

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Speaker 3: so do you think they just have to settle for

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Speaker 3: one and use other resources to maybe try to find

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Speaker 3: a right handed bat somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I'd say definitely one, perhaps two, like a second or

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Speaker 4: third tier guy for the second guy. But they got

478
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Speaker 4: to get something significant late in the game that can

479
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Speaker 4: knows how to get big outs, and they need to

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Speaker 4: get a bat as well, So that's where I'd be

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Speaker 4: on that definitely one.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think that they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: get two. And it was interesting to me that maxwill

484
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Speaker 1: Zar came into the game when he came into the

485
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Speaker 1: game yesterday, and he actually did a nice job. I

486
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Speaker 1: guess they're trying to find out if there's somebody that

487
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Speaker 1: can sort of take the place of that seventh inning guy.

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Speaker 1: Somebody can throw in the seventh inning or sixth inning

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Speaker 1: to stop the game, and they were trying to see

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Speaker 1: if Maxwell Dark can be that guy, because right now,

491
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Speaker 1: Joe Ross and Taiwan Walker really aren't getting the job

492
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Speaker 1: done all that consistently, and they need somebody from the

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Speaker 1: right side to do it because the guy from the

494
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Speaker 1: left side is Tanner Banks. So I got to believe

495
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Speaker 1: that they're going to get at least one guy.

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Speaker 2: And one from the rotation, and they'll probably.

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Speaker 1: Have somebody from the rotation slide back in there when

498
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Speaker 1: it's time to have that need, or maybe two. They

499
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Speaker 1: might get two guys from the rotation slide back, because

500
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Speaker 1: they don't really only need three. I think in some

501
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Speaker 1: of these series, if they get to the playoffs, that's

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Speaker 1: once they get.

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Speaker 3: To the playoffs, right, Yeah, the Division series. I think

504
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Speaker 3: there's an extra off day in there, so they would

505
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Speaker 3: only need three starters. So yeah, you could have an

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Speaker 3: extra starter.

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Speaker 1: And again I think mckabel might be an option to that.

508
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Speaker 1: That may happen before the trade deadline and they may

509
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Speaker 1: fly slide him back there, uh sometime in July and

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Speaker 1: perhaps bring you know, Painter at that time to be

511
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Speaker 1: the fifth slide able back into the bullpen and see

512
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Speaker 1: if you can handle it and go from there.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to you're trying to find out stuff before

515
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Speaker 4: the trade deadline. Correct, He's got really you know, good

516
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Speaker 4: ingredients with the power stuff and whatnot. You gotta find

517
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Speaker 4: out if he's got the belly for it. It's a

518
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Speaker 4: tough role, but it also allows you to get Painter here.

519
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Speaker 4: It's some role in the rotation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's so. This is a good question. This

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Speaker 3: is from Philly Versus Everybody podcast on X. The question

522
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Speaker 3: is just Painter when.

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Speaker 1: It might happen after the start? This is a this

524
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Speaker 1: is a pretty big start here for able and to

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Speaker 1: start from I mean it's got to be a tight

526
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Speaker 1: start from from Painter as well. But if Abel struggles

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Speaker 1: again and Painter throws well in this in his next

528
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Speaker 1: outing out down there in Triple A, you may see

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Speaker 1: a flip here fairly soon.

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Speaker 4: So so there's still a chance Todd for us in

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Speaker 4: San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yes. We all picked the San Francisco San

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Speaker 3: Diego series as a possibility.

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Speaker 4: Out there, I mean, but then then he shot it

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Speaker 4: down saying he's gonna rest on the All Star break.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I go back to what we

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Speaker 4: talked about the other day.

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Speaker 2: He just looks like he might be a little bored

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Speaker 2: down there and ready for a new challenge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, he's gonna have to throw well. I think

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Speaker 1: the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: For me, those would be cool.

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Speaker 3: Those are cool.

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Speaker 1: So uh, We've.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of questions about outfielders, and we kind

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Speaker 3: of touched on some of these outfits, but I want

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Speaker 3: X said, if you had to pick Jared Durand to

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Speaker 3: lead off for the middle of the lineup bat like

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Speaker 3: our dollars, our dollars Garcia, who would you pick? So

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Speaker 3: I just want to throw some names out there. Any

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Speaker 3: of those guys get you guys excited at all? You

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Speaker 3: mean flow flow, You ain't.

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Speaker 1: Flow for you, Jim.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jared Durant is good upside, a lot of upside.

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Speaker 4: He was an All Star last year, a lot right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, because he's got some control, he would probably

596
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Speaker 4: be the guy that, talent wise, would excite me the most.

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Speaker 4: But you mentioned control, and uh, you mentioned cost, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I feel like you're gonna have to

599
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Speaker 4: probably spend your biggest nickels on the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: I agree. And I also think that some of these teams,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Angels are like at five hundred or

602
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Speaker 1: above five hundred for the first time, how long it's

603
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Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them to show their fans now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden that they're playing decent baseball and

605
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Speaker 1: they're sort of kind of in the race. That als

606
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Speaker 1: kind of sucks. They're not very it's not that great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Houston's got to I mean, I talked to

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Speaker 1: Jeff Blum about, you know, one of their broadcasters who

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Speaker 1: used to play for him, and he's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how they're winning. I don't I can't even

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Speaker 1: figure it out. But they're winning with pitching and they're

612
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Speaker 1: getting like one more run than another team. It's as

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Speaker 1: simple as that. They're just getting enough runs to to

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Speaker 1: stay top that al Wes. But that tells me that

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Speaker 1: that als is not that great because their offense, that

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Speaker 1: offense and that lineup that the Houston Ashers are firing

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Speaker 1: out there doesn't scare me. I mean, they just swept

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Speaker 1: the boys, but you know, and they've got good arms

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Speaker 1: in a good, good bullpen. But man, that lineup mean,

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Speaker 1: without your Don Alvarez, it's no bueno.

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Speaker 3: The Diamondbacks are two games over five hundred. They've really

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Speaker 3: struggled since since mid April. They have had a lot

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Speaker 3: of big injuries, obviously to Corbyn Burns. But yeah, so

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Speaker 3: some of these teams are hanging in just enough. And

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Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks, you know, they invest a lot of money

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Speaker 3: in this team, so you know, are they gonna sell?

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see kind of what they do.

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Speaker 3: How about this one? This is from my old neighbor,

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Speaker 3: Larry Davis on Blue Sky. Uh literally my next reighbor

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Speaker 3: when I was cool and used to live in the city.

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Speaker 3: I think Larry is still cool and still lives in

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Speaker 3: the city with his family, But which pending free agents

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Speaker 3: in the city Exactly right. Ruben Rubin lives in the

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Speaker 3: city which pending free agents. Will the free Phillies resigned?

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Speaker 3: We get asked this one every every month or so.

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Speaker 3: Has any of your opinions changed on any of this?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like they need to go get one

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Speaker 3: guy over the other? They can't resign everybody.

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Speaker 1: They got to resign with Sharm. For me, that's a

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Speaker 1: no brainer. Schwarmer is the one for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did, But they're gonna have competition on Schwarmer. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna have choices.

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Speaker 1: He will not that many choices because that that many

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Speaker 1: team will want to pay a d h h's uh.

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Speaker 1: In his low thirties.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll have some choices, maybe not a plethora,

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Speaker 4: but enough to that he's gonna have to sit back,

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Speaker 4: have enough to sit back and go hmm.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that it's gonna necessarily be all

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Speaker 1: about the money for him either.

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Speaker 2: I agree. That's why this team I think is going to.

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Speaker 1: Be comfort for him and not necessarily about the money.

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Speaker 3: He wants to win. He wants to win. And then Ranger,

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Speaker 3: of course, the way he's pitching recently. We talked about

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Speaker 3: him on Wednesday, and is it get you thinking any differently?

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Speaker 4: He's the extractor they're gonna be under like when Schwaber has,

657
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Speaker 4: you know, one of these months where he hits ten

658
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: home runs and drives in a bunch of runs. Must

659
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Speaker 4: I almost drives in a shipload of runs.

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Speaker 1: You said it, they.

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Speaker 4: Get they face, you know, the buzz is you got

662
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: to have them, and then it's it creates enormous pressure

663
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: to to, you know, do something. If Ranger is the

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: best pitcher in the National League for the second half

665
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: and has an unbelievable postseason, there's gonna be an enormous

666
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: pressure to resign him, just like the Yankees were feeling

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00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: for for Soto and ultimately did not resign him and

668
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: allocated their money very well.

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Speaker 2: I might say the money they budgeted for Sodo, But

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Speaker 2: you know it's you know, I still.

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Speaker 4: I you know, coming into the season, I thought, you know,

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Speaker 4: Ranger would test it and with the agent he has,

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Speaker 4: they would they would drive it up and work the

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Speaker 4: market and be out there a long time, and he'd

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Speaker 4: end up somewhere else. Look, I don't know, but the durability,

676
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: to me is a major concern. And the Phillies on

677
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: the durability question have an advantage over everybody else because

678
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 4: they're trainers, they're athletic trainers, they're therapists, they're conditioning guys,

679
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: they're doctors. Have seen him and they know him inside out.

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: So that's something that ownership and Dave de Brosk can

681
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: really have to lean on when they're making the decision

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Speaker 4: of they're going to extend the relationship. They have all

683
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Speaker 4: that intel because to me, the question is not talent,

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: it's durability. So you know, we'll see there. But if

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Speaker 4: I had to pick one guy, sure, I think it

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Speaker 4: would probably be be Schwarber. But again, if Ranger goes

687
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 4: crazy and the fans are going crazy, I mean, John

688
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: Middleton is a guy who listens to his fan base.

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Speaker 4: So it's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: You know, well, Jimmy, you mentioned like there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: competition for Schwarber. So say, for argument's sake, that Ranger

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Speaker 3: does go out and finish the second half as one

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Speaker 3: of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball, And say

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Speaker 3: the Phillies say, John Milton goes, you know what, and

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00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: Dave den Broski says, you know what, I think we

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: got to resign Ranger Suarez. He's been great. I think

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00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: there's gonna be more competition for a Ranger, and I

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Speaker 3: almost don't see how they could win that, win that bid.

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: I think somebody's gonna out hit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can win that bid. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have the wherewithal or the budget to do it.

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00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: They're already busting the budget. I mean, and they're not cheap.

703
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: There's nothing cheap about what the Phillies have, but that

704
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: there's a reality that sets in where I mean, they

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: can't have a five hundred million dollars payroll. Just can't

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Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying telling me Rangers, a Metranger.

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Speaker 1: Might be a mat. Yeah, he may very well be

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Speaker 1: a Mat.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's the team I would think of. You get

711
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: a Venezuelan manager. You got an owner who uh will

712
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: spend I mean, they have a lot, and he doesn't

713
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: care injuries and their rotation, you know, they who knows

714
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 4: I mean, he could be there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just yeah, I just don't see how the

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Speaker 3: Phillies win that, even if they decide that they that's

717
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: going to be our guy we want to go get.

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00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: I think somebody is going to outbid them for Ranger.

719
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: And we're going to see Cincinnati next week and I

720
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: have always thought of that would be a potential landing

721
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: spot for Schwarmer because it's all.

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Speaker 1: That or Chicago. Chicago the one that that scares me

723
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. I know they have some dhs over

724
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: there already, but one of them is going away, and uh,

725
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: you just never know.

726
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: So that's the Cubs.

727
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: And if Tucker goes, they're going to have correct money

728
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 4: and you know, so the Cubs, and.

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00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: It's going to be a shorter deal than Tucker's.

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Speaker 4: It'll be a full circle moment. So I do think

731
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Speaker 4: they'll be play on schwarbur because the DH is here

732
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: in both leagues and here to stay, and it's an

733
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: important position. And he you know, he does have his

734
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 4: peaks and valley. He's a little bit of a valley

735
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: right now. But I'll tell you what, He'll go on

736
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: a peak and everybody will be buzzing.

737
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: Again. You gotta have them, you watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, JT's gonna be interesting too, because he's having a

739
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: down here offensively. But there's not a lot of good

740
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: catchers out there. They're not, they're not, they're not.

741
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it will depend on whether

742
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: they feel that Marshall can be that everyday catcher in

743
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: conjunction with a guy like Steps. I don't know that,

744
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: but I agree. I do like the way Marshaan's been

745
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: catching I mean a lot of people who are talking about,

746
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, his era and this, that and the other world.

747
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: Guess what he's been catching his ass off lately.

748
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Speaker 4: You mentioned on the last podcast, Trumen that you could

749
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Speaker 4: see march On being part of a package in a

750
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: deal and where this team is, I'll say it the

751
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: desperation to win. I actually and him play in a

752
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: premium position, being a young players still everybody thinks has

753
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: some upside and switch hit her. I could see them

754
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: biting hard and saying, Okay, we've got to do it,

755
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: no doubt, especially if they get somebody that can control,

756
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: because she's under control for a long time.

757
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to give up something big because it's

758
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: gonna hurt whatever they do this this year.

759
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: It's going to be an alley.

760
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: It's going to hurt. It is going to hurt. But

761
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: they have to try to get it done this year

762
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: because of all those guys we just mentioned, Schwarber, Real

763
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: Mutos swore as free agents.

764
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Speaker 1: So tough ride up to Dombrowski, tough spot for the

765
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: ownership group, and it's it's a tough fan base, so

766
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: and there's an expectation that these guys are going to

767
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: do what they need to do to win, and they

768
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: either need to do it now or get off the pot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's also it's not like they make these moves.

770
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we have no flaws. There's still

771
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: going to be a very flawed team. Because you get

772
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: one right handed back end reliever, you're still going to

773
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: have some questions in the bullpen if you get go

774
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: out and find some sort of bat. None of the

775
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: names get us very excited. You're still going to have

776
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: an offense that can go cold all at once at

777
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: the same time. So it's not like you're going to

778
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: make two moves and be like, all right, here we

779
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: go World Series book it. They could still get knocked

780
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: out in the first round the way the way that

781
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: this offense operates and the way.

782
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Speaker 1: But I love their chances with they're pitching that they

783
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: have man because they can shut down they can shut

784
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: down a lot of offenses with that pitching. The Phillies

785
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: already picking in particular, I mean.

786
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: Starting pitching is fantastic, and that's spectacular. You don't want

787
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: to waste it. Phillies rotation leads Major League Baseball and

788
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 3: strikeouts innings war, strikeout, strikeout to walk percent walk rate

789
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Speaker 3: ty for thirty in e RA. If you take out

790
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: Jesus Lozardo's two absolute horrific starts, they have a three

791
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: point zero one ERA. It's the best rotation era in

792
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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. So there you go, Phillies. Phillies Braves

793
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: begin on Friday Night Mick Abel versus Brian elder Saturday

794
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: Night it's Jesus lozarda who we just mentioned versus Spencer Schwellenbach.

795
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Speaker 3: In Sunday afternoons. Series finale is Ranger Suarez versus.

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Speaker 1: They better do some damage, elder Man.

797
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: The guy jump on it, make him maybe, help him

798
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: relax a little bit. Score, no doubt, seven runs, help

799
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: him relax. Go into the weekend, come home, win two

800
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: out of three, and all's right again.

801
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: They have two Spencers in their rotation.

802
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: Spencer Spencer back to back, back to back.

803
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Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 3: They're both pretty good. They're both really good, guys. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back on Monday.

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