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Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Wards, presented by your Southern California

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Speaker 1: Toyota Dealers. Cameroner went alongside my very good friends of

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Speaker 1: Marco Farr and JV. Long and guys, as much as

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Speaker 1: we love December football, we love January football that much more.

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Speaker 1: As of course, the Rams move from thirty two to fourteen,

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Speaker 1: one of the fourteen teams to make it into the

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Speaker 1: postseason after the second place finish in the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: But before we get there, guys, a look back on

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Speaker 1: this incredible regular season twelve total wins, I mean, just

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Speaker 1: an impressive feat to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Have you, guys, like let your mind wander? And I

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Speaker 2: think you pointed it out. Your five losses came down

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Speaker 2: to the last play, so if they go your way,

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Speaker 2: you might be undefeated right now? Have you let your

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Speaker 2: mind wander to that?

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Speaker 3: At some point, my mind exists in a permanent state

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Speaker 3: of wander. I try to dial it in for these

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Speaker 3: forty minutes right.

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Speaker 2: Here right, no doubt. I mean it's been a you know,

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Speaker 2: starting from Matthew Stafford and the back and everybody going,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't know what's happening to where

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Speaker 2: you are right now? Going into the playoffs. Unbelievable. Great

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Speaker 2: job of the coaching staff, the players. You got to

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Speaker 2: this point, and now the real football begins from this point. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Twelve wins against the best division in football, against the

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Speaker 3: toughest schedule in football, more miles than any team in

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Speaker 3: the NFC. You led the NFL in scoring. That was

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Speaker 3: kind of fun, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, historically good, like I really believe, as you probably know,

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Speaker 3: and like the efficiency analytic measures that say the Rams

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Speaker 3: are probably a top fifteen, maybe top ten offense of

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Speaker 3: all time with what they did this season and your

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Speaker 3: double digit playoff favorites, I mean, come on, wow, that's

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Speaker 3: pretty rare too. But yeah, zooming out. You got a

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Speaker 3: coaching a GM that just combined for their one hundredth win.

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Speaker 2: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really cool. You got a quarterback who nearly

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Speaker 3: wasn't a Ram anymore, or sure was in street clothes

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Speaker 3: at training camp, was in this ammortal chamber for a

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Speaker 3: good portion of August, and now might be the MVP.

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Speaker 2: What did he say, chamber? Moral?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? No moral?

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Speaker 3: Non immortal, although he's played okay, but I would like

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Speaker 3: to spend some time out in that trailer even something

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Speaker 3: like you know, you sell DeVante Adams on a vision, right,

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Speaker 3: you recruit him from abroad, and let's face it, he

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Speaker 3: didn't come to Los Angeles for the taxes, like he

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Speaker 3: came here to chase a championship. And he doesn't play

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Speaker 3: the last three games and finishes well clear of the

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Speaker 3: pack in terms of receiving touchdowns. So not everything came

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Speaker 3: to fruition, but a good portion of that offseason vision

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Speaker 3: got the Rams to right where they are. And speaking

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Speaker 3: of my mind wandering, it's twenty twenty six and I

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Speaker 3: want to go chase a championship here. Please don't misconstrue

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Speaker 3: what I'm going to say, but look at where the

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Speaker 3: Rams are. I think only four maximum starters do for

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Speaker 3: free agency. I joined this franchise after they picked Jared Goff,

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Speaker 3: So that means in my ten years with the Rams,

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Speaker 3: they've made one first round selection. They could make two.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: This spring, they've got more cap space than at any

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Speaker 3: point in franchise history. So other than father time, I

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Speaker 3: think you have every reason to expect that the twenty

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Speaker 3: it's going to take twelve months and probably twelve wins

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Speaker 3: just to get back to this starting line. So I'm

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Speaker 3: in no hurry to get to next year's team. I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying it's this beautiful juxtaposition between urgency but also

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Speaker 3: being at a really stable point that I think is

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Speaker 3: the envy of every other team in the national football.

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Speaker 2: They just refuse to let that window shut, and I

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Speaker 2: love it. That's right, they just refuse to let it shut.

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Speaker 2: And going back to DeVante for one second, do you

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Speaker 2: or bring to this football team. But yeah, like you said,

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Speaker 2: this window is wide open. They're not done yet, but

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Speaker 3: Totally.

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Speaker 2: I see. That is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I set the table for this postseason run envisioning

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Speaker 3: one of two things. Either they're back next year to

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Speaker 3: falling in Santa Clara and they had the choice. They

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Speaker 3: more accomplished veterans to say that's how I want to

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Speaker 1: And I'll even mirror off that too, because I think

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Speaker 1: from a historical context, you look at what Seawan and

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Speaker 1: Less have been able to rebuild with maybe retaining what

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Speaker 1: is it, maybe less than seven guys from that twenty

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Speaker 1: one team that won it all five years and have

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Speaker 1: really created a team that I don't think anyone would

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Speaker 2: Probably will build another one. That's the crazy thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look for talent acquisition, there's some luck involved, but luck

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Speaker 2: plug in and plug and play. So we say this

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Speaker 2: about different eras, different guys, you really are in the

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Speaker 2: less sneed McVeigh era. It's about the guys on the

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Speaker 2: always about the players first. But when you talk about eras,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're done yet. And as many ways

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Speaker 2: back to them blank them picks era to where we

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Speaker 2: are now, it just really I mean, you're still trying

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Speaker 2: moving forward with this so there is a chance to

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Speaker 2: build again. So it is exciting, but the one thing

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Speaker 2: you have to keep in front of you is you

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Speaker 2: got the Panthers coming.

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Speaker 4: Up first exactly.

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Speaker 1: Before we get there, though, let's take a look back

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Speaker 1: at the win versus the Cardinals and guys. As this

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Speaker 1: an opportunity, opportunity for rediscovery to affirm this team's identity.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like it only happened with about sixteen

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Speaker 1: how important was this when to have that confidence built

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Speaker 2: God, I thought it was super important. You lost two

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Speaker 2: in a row, two heartbreakers, and the one in Atlanta

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Speaker 2: was head scratching, and even coach McVeigh was confused, like

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Speaker 2: So watching that game and how it unfolded versus Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking this might be this team's identity. They respond

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Speaker 2: after getting hit in the face, they respond to adversity. Now,

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Speaker 2: if they can play, start the game like you finish games,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any stopping them. But that seems

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Speaker 2: to be their identity, their resiliency. They're never out of it.

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Speaker 2: Even those five losses, they fought their way back in.

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Speaker 2: Even disasters, they fought their way back. So you can

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Speaker 2: be who this team is or what it was. What

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Speaker 2: it's going to have to be going forward is how

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Speaker 2: you finish that game in Arizona. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: to advance in the postseason, because everybody's good from here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sean McVay would agree with the both

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Speaker 3: of you, and I don't like disagreeing with either of

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Speaker 3: you nor Sean McVay, but I kind of disagree. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it was really much about any of that.

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Speaker 3: I think it was absolutely about the seed and the

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Speaker 3: checked most of those boxes. I think that's my takeaway

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Speaker 3: because win or lose last Sunday, I think they absolutely

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Speaker 3: we're going to go on a tear this postseason, and

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Speaker 3: I think they have that strength, that belief, that capability.

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Speaker 3: Things I did like though, are related to that. Is

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Speaker 3: it the worst thing that Tyler higbe knocked off? Some

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Speaker 3: good rust No probably played more than he or anyone envisioned.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad sentimentally that Matthew Stafford restored his MVP front

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Speaker 3: runner status. I'm glad. I'm glad Puoka got his marks

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Speaker 3: like beyond this season. Those things will have longevity. It's cool.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm glad the Rams house got that victorious

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Speaker 3: moment because I think the Rams moved the needle at

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Speaker 3: home this year. I really do No one lives through

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Speaker 3: that more than we do, Cameron, especially being down on

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Speaker 3: to come back to Englewood at least one more time

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Speaker 3: this season, that was worth winning for. And so I'm

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Speaker 3: glad they kept that door open.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no doubt.

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Speaker 1: You talked about Matthew Stafford and the MVP, and it

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Speaker 1: feels as if there's been a lot of capitalization, bolding

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Speaker 1: And you also, of course have to think about Pouka

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Speaker 1: Nukua up for the Offensive Player of the Year award

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Speaker 1: as well. I'd like to give you both the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to say your piece at this moment. I know voting

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Speaker 1: has now concluded, although the floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: I mean I have to turn off the TV and

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Speaker 2: look away. I was in the gym this morning on

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Speaker 2: the treadmill and they were talking about it Drake Maulbragg. Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. You saw that. Yeah, but just

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Speaker 2: you know, when they're trying to break it down and

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Speaker 2: you put Drake May versus Matthew Stafford side by and

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Speaker 2: you're comparing numbers. Okay, the touchdown passes alone jump off

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Speaker 2: the page. But it's not just about the measurables. You

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Speaker 2: have to know what you're looking at and what you see.

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Speaker 2: And he's defying logic. He's changing the way you call

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Speaker 2: defenses and coverages. It's not just let's play two, one, three, whatever.

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Speaker 2: You have to play it in a certain way because

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Speaker 2: of him. When he looks this way, don't go with

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Speaker 2: his eyes. You know what I mean. You're changing everything

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Speaker 2: you do because of how he's doing it. To me,

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Speaker 2: that makes you special. New England's good. Drake May is great.

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Speaker 2: They're having they're on a run. Vrabel's got them going.

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Speaker 2: But when you watch Stafford and how he does certain things,

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Speaker 2: and the way he demoralizes defense, the balls in the

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Speaker 2: did it go? That sort of stuff, you just know

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Speaker 2: it when you see it. So I hope he gets it.

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Speaker 2: It's not the end all be all. I think he

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Speaker 2: deserves it, but we'll see what happens from here on out.

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Speaker 2: Voting's weird.

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Speaker 3: I should probably just let you be the heat shield

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Speaker 3: this week. Keep my peace to myself because I already

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Speaker 3: said it last week and I cannot waste another week

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Speaker 3: dealing with Patriot fans in my mensions. But a few

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Speaker 3: things I did get a chuckle out of. First, let

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Speaker 3: me start with the Puka component too, because I find

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Speaker 3: this interesting. One argument against Matthew Stafford is oh, he

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Speaker 3: has Demonte Adams and Pooka Akua. So I'm gonna vote

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Speaker 3: for Drake May because he's got less of a supporting cast. Okay,

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Speaker 3: The great thing about this is and there's thirty two

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Speaker 2: I think it's super important. I'm glad Higgs is back.

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Speaker 3: You know the expression, players not plays, like I can't

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Speaker 1: Man, that gives me goosebumps. That's an incredible opportunity for

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Speaker 2: The rush has always been good, and this is the

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Speaker 2: how do I say this? It's like being at a

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Speaker 2: So the pass rush is there this week in Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Everything you just said may be true, but it has

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Speaker 2: Forward, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Totally with you. I'd like they said to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about reasons to be confident heading into the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: I'm confident because this has been a historically good team.

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Speaker 3: all year, and I hope they get another shot at

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks because I think part of the reason I'm

435
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 3: confident is because look who else is in the dance.

436
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Speaker 3: You had a nineteen point lead on the Eagles in

437
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Speaker 3: the second half, You had a sixteen point lead on

438
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks in Seattle. You should be two to zero

439
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 3: against the San Francisco forty nine ers. So if you

440
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 3: run into one of those teams, you have every reasonablieve

441
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: you're better. If you run in the Bears, they've got

442
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: a first time coach and first time quarterback in the playoffs,

443
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: Like you've got the experience advantage there, So there's no coach,

444
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: there's no quarterback. I trust more than what the Rams

445
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 3: are running out there, so go cash it in. And

446
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: I think they also have some margin for air, like

447
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 3: I do believe the best defensive game plans and executions

448
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: are ahead of this team. And Cameron, to your point,

449
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: what Davante is to the offense, the skeleton key, the

450
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: cheat code, the thing that makes everything easier for the

451
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: other ten. That's quint Lake on defense, and I do

452
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: think he has the power to set some things right

453
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 3: that have been ailien this group.

454
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Speaker 2: Go cover him, go lock here, go Bletz. Just communication

455
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 2: so important for that edge fake time.

456
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was saying he's the biggest playoff present

457
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: that we might be kidding. Actually the return of the

458
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: queue and he's ready to rock and cue.

459
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Speaker 3: We spend all what December and really all season? How

460
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: many wins can you get? Can you in the division?

461
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: Can you get the see can you get the advantages?

462
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: And the Rams have some advantages, they get the Carolina

463
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: Panthers with the losing record, and they have some disadvantages

464
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Speaker 3: they have to go on the road on wild card weekend.

465
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: But the most important thing that we know about specifically

466
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams, how much of your design roster

467
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Speaker 3: can you put in play and activate in January? They

468
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: got here, folks, They got here with Matthew and DeVante

469
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: and Puka and Quinton Lake and Jared like, go get it.

470
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Speaker 2: He's doing it again, He's go get it. Give me

471
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: sweat again.

472
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Speaker 4: Come on, we're on opposite fades. Okay, fellas, how about

473
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Speaker 4: the other side of the coin.

474
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Speaker 1: Reasons to be a little bit concerned heading into the playoffs?

475
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Speaker 4: Where do you have some hesitancies Carolina.

476
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Speaker 2: Beat you, that's number one. You're going back to the

477
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: scene of the crime. It's still the same football team.

478
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: And uh, if you, I guess, play the same way

479
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: you did against Carolina, you're going to be in a dogfight.

480
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: I would expect the Rams are going to be better.

481
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: But that's the one thing. And I was thinking about this,

482
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: This is so funny with Seattle went in the number

483
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: one seed, right, everything has to go through him, And

484
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, why doesn't that shake me as much as

485
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 2: going to Philly? I know, why do you know how

486
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: many big games you've played in Seattle? You've been through

487
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: there and one and one. That environment does not shake

488
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: you anymore. That football team, you know you can compete

489
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: with them. So yeah, there's reasons to be confident, and

490
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: there's there's reasons to worry. One more thing leaving Arizona,

491
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: and this was right on the field, a conversation talking

492
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Speaker 2: about the defense. Everything you just saw is what you're

493
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Speaker 2: going to see in the postseason. Now the names are

494
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: going to change, but the method of how they come

495
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: after you is going to be the same. They're going

496
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: to test those corners, They're going to test your pass rush,

497
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: to see if you can get there before they get

498
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Speaker 2: the ball out. So can you improve on that from

499
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: one week to the next as they get better, we'll see.

500
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things to be confident about,

501
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: and this is something to be worried about. That's what

502
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: playoff football should be, and that's what playoff football is.

503
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: What about the unease of not even knowing who's going

504
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: to be starting at corner? I mean, this building knows,

505
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: but even as the most attentive RAMS fan, are you

506
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: sure you know who's going to be playing at corner

507
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: in this postseason run and what the snapcount distribution.

508
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: Is going to be. No, but it's going to change

509
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: when queues out there.

510
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: No, for sure, I have an educated guess. But that's

511
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: an uneasy place to be in January, is not knowing

512
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: with clarity who your top two corners are. Some other

513
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: things I jotted down by way of concern drops running

514
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: backs and tight ends in particular. But I need to

515
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Speaker 3: see the best of the DeVante Matthew Stafford connection, and

516
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: having not played together for a month, that's on my list.

517
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Speaker 4: How quick can that happen?

518
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Speaker 3: How quickly can that happen? A lot of our audience

519
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: has already dialed in on this short yardage run execution.

520
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: When you're in third and two or less, when you're

521
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: in fourth and two or less, can you move the

522
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: sticks without having to put the ball in the air. Unfortunately,

523
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Speaker 3: the answer to that has been no times quite a

524
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: bit this season. And then this is no mystery to

525
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Speaker 3: anyone who loves football, especially playoff football. But I've got

526
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: the teas, I've got trenches tackling turnovers and teams. Trenches

527
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: tackling turnover and teams. That's where I think the Rams

528
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: move on or go on vacation.

529
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Speaker 2: Tackling, tackling, tackling, tackling, tackling. It's all want to And

530
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Speaker 2: this is I told you about this with Nate Landman

531
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: and when he said I'd never made the playoffs before,

532
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, congratulations, you have no idea what it's

533
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: going to feel like, but you will this Saturday. You've

534
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: never played football this long into a season in your life.

535
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: And at this point you're thinking your body says it's

536
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: time to rest. Nope, it's time to ramp it up again.

537
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: So you have to go beyond yourself physically on defense.

538
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: And that's all it is with tackling. That's what you

539
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: did not see in Atlanta. You saw one guy playing

540
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: faster than all eleven. So you have to bring that

541
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: same mentality to defense. It's painful, it sucks, it really is.

542
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: But I tell you what, if you do it's worth it.

543
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: It really is. If you go beyond yourself and it's

544
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: going to be taxing. It's gonna hurt a lot on defense,

545
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: but it's a lot to want to. If you can

546
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: take the fight out of these teams early and make

547
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: it easy by pass rushing, than so be it. But

548
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to go through it to get there.

549
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: Say more about that, because you know, I think the

550
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: challenge of the regular season is so different than what's

551
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Speaker 3: about to happen in three hours in Charlotte, and more

552
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: Rams have experienced that than Panthers. Right, But what they

553
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: play seventeen games, and I would say sixteen of them

554
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: were worthy of a win. The one in Atlanta is

555
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: the exception that proves the rule. After they had their

556
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: heart and soul ripped out in Seattle and had the

557
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: biggest prize they were playing for taking off the table,

558
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: So that that's a human nature lost to him.

559
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: A team fighting for their life.

560
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: And a guy named John Robinson who's quicksilver. But the

561
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: game changes, and I'd love to hear you describe a

562
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Speaker 3: little bit more how it's different when you're in a

563
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: winner go home environment.

564
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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is funny, and it was the what

565
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: do we call it is? The Jets sweeper and the

566
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: end around with Puka. Yes, at the end of the game,

567
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: either one. I bet you hated to call that because

568
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: that's a playoff play. Yep. That's how it gets specific

569
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: stuff you haven't seen. You're rolling out a lot of

570
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 2: stuff on both sides of the football. So go back

571
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: to Atlanta for one minute. The way they drop that

572
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: outside linebacker right to Pooka, that's specific. That's game plan.

573
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: That's your entire season broken down into one game plan.

574
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 2: When he's when you see this, I know you're supposed

575
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: to drop to the flat, drop straight to Pukah. Forget that,

576
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: go to him. Versus Arizona. The way they were aligning

577
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: in different things. Instead of an under defense where you

578
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: would have a one technique, a nose tackle and a

579
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: defensive end and a five, they moved that guy all

580
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: the way down to a four, specifically for the Rams.

581
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: So they make it tougher based on what you've been doing.

582
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: We're gonna make it as tough as we can, man

583
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: for man, and you're gonna have to either step up

584
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: or get beat. That's the thing. There is no help,

585
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: There is no We're just playing from one week to

586
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: the next. This is it. So it's physical, it's tough,

587
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: and it's you versus that guy. I want to get

588
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: my best player in space and you're thinking, I got

589
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: my best defender in this area. We should bring it down.

590
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there. That's what the playoffs is

591
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: all about.

592
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 3: One quick follow up on that, that's specific to this matchup,

593
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: which I know are about to get into. Killing your

594
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: blocks and tackling the early down run on Thanksgiving weekend

595
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: in the rain when you're on a six game winning

596
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: streak and it's the Panthers. That's a different chore I

597
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: imagine than doing it this Saturday to kick off wild

598
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: Card weekend? Am I wrong?

599
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: No, you're right. It just it seems harder. It seems faster, stronger, meaner,

600
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: nastier the best way I can describe it. The playoff football,

601
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: especially from a defensive perspective, it's for keeps it's different.

602
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: It is, so you're going to have to go beyond

603
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to play when you're a little

604
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: bit dinged and play an entire quarter a game, three

605
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: games feeling that way if you want to become champion.

606
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: To your point, it's best on best and actually interesting

607
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: note too, I believe it's around thirty one players on

608
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: the roster have not played in a playoff game for Carolina,

609
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: so this is going to be a new experience for

610
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: all of them, including their and.

611
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: A lot of those that have did so at the Rams,

612
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: Flick Scott's and the Christians of the world.

613
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: But Canalis even mentioned it, like you guys were talking

614
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: about tackling he throughout this week. He's already been about

615
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: it's the basics. We're not going to do anything outlandish.

616
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: It goes back to tackling, tackling, tackling, and I'm going,

617
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: oh boy, this is going to be a different matchup

618
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: than it was Week thirteen. The weather's going to be different,

619
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: and it's a different point in the season.

620
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: Crazy thing about tackling. So we're in January, you've been

621
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: doing this since August. What's the one thing you're guaranteed

622
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: not to do during the week is tackle. The only

623
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: time you get it is on Sunday, So it's a

624
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: lot thing for both sides. So we'll see who wants

625
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: to tackle more than the other.

626
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, when the Rams have the ball

627
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: facing off against Carolina, a few things to be looking for.

628
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: We should we start with the run game for the

629
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. It's been pretty impressive and it feels

630
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: as if, actually historically in the past twenty years, this

631
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: is the second best rushing total in franchise history of

632
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: following only that of ten. How can they set the

633
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: table versus Carolina.

634
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: I think blake Korm has gotten so much better. His

635
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: pass protection has really improved. Before it was kind of simple,

636
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: if Kyrien's in the game, it's either a run or

637
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna throw, because you can tell the Rams trust

638
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: him to protect Matthew Stafford. Now it's a bit different.

639
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Blake Korm has stepped up in pass pro, which means

640
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: you can use him on every single down. And they're

641
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: starting to teleport now as running backs, which means they'll

642
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: start front side and then all of a sudden teleport

643
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: back to the backside. Seat They're setting up their blocks.

644
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Both guys very well. I think the run game could

645
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: really pace the offense and wear out this defense and

646
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: open it up for Matthew Stafford and Devonte and Pukinakua.

647
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: But I thought they have done a fantastic job. And

648
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't even want to say it, but Kyraen Williams

649
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: has improved. And you know what I mean by that.

650
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Let mean knock on wood before I put that out there,

651
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: but he's been great. He's been great in traffic and

652
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: they're running tough. I would expect these guys in that environment,

653
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: with the way they're running and the surfers are going

654
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: to be on to really carry this game or pace

655
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: this offense.

656
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: Well.

657
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: They had a great day the last time they were

658
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: in Carolina, the running backs in the running game, and

659
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: they may have to again this weekend because the passing

660
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: defense of Carolina is going to be a much better

661
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: version than the one we saw on Thanksgiving weekend. Jac

662
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: Horn didn't play in that game. He's their best corner.

663
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Trevon Merrick didn't play in that game.

664
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: He's there.

665
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: Quinton Lake equivalent Piece Roseman didn't play in that game.

666
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: So I think there's an opportunity to exploit linebackers. It's

667
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: probably the best advantage when the Rams have the football.

668
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do think getting on track, staying efficient,

669
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: staying ahead of the chains in the running game allows

670
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: you to do all the things that you love to

671
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: do with your passing game.

672
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Late in the second if Stafford is a little lower, Kiren.

673
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: Scores on that late in the second, late in.

674
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: The second quarter, Kyron goes out and he's.

675
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: On the option route to the left slack.

676
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's a little bit lower and hits him

677
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: in stride, he turns that and so.

678
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's you know, one of my When the

679
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: Rams have the ball, keys catch the thing.

680
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: Mmkay.

681
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: It goes back to my previous point. Drops by tight

682
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: ends and running backs in particular have stalled drives here

683
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: and the cost of Rams some games. I would love

684
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: to see them take the ball. I would love to

685
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: see them take the ball. I think when you're better

686
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: than your opponent, you want possessions, right like when you

687
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: got the better starting five and hoops, you want to

688
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: play an eighty possession game, not a sixty possession game.

689
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: I want the Rams to get ten, twelve possessions in

690
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: this game. They can't have a third quarter like the

691
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: previous matchup against Carolina where I think they only ran

692
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: three plays, right, So shoot, win that coin toss, take

693
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: the ball, or hope that Carolina wins a coin toss

694
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: in the first to you go down and jump them

695
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: and try and take away some of what the Panthers

696
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: want to do.

697
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of picks, but I like forced fumbles,

698
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: especially at quarterbacks. That's just demoralized.

699
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: You're a fan of picks.

700
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: I love picks, I do. I love baskets, picks, hands,

701
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't care as long as you get the ball.

702
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: But taking the ball away from the quarterback that's how

703
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: you win.

704
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: And every drive needs to end in a kick, Yes,

705
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: every d kick at the end of every drive.

706
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: What about a plan of attack offensively? We just saw

707
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: again a game that was two thirds played in thirteen personnel.

708
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: Do we expect that to take plays against Carolina?

709
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Great question?

710
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: Yes you think so? Yeah, because it's what the Rams

711
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: do best, and because I think the more base personnel

712
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: from Carolina you see, the better. Again, I think the

713
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: linebackers are the raw nerve. So the more linebackers that

714
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: play and the less you can have, you know, the

715
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: likes of their corners who had a good game even

716
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: without Horn and married last time the better.

717
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'm just I go back to the spam

718
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: the ball to Davante and Puka.

719
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid to throw the rocks and I love that. Yeah,

720
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you're not gonna swinging around the yard.

721
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: I think you will. You moved it up and down

722
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: the field, Matthew turned it over three times, but otherwise

723
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: had no trouble with this Carolina defense. So I'm not

724
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: saying you need to shy away from it. I'm just

725
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: saying I think the best identity that you've had comes

726
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: back in full fruition with you know, three tight ends

727
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: and Puka three tight ends and DeVante.

728
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: To marry the two ideas.

729
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: One of my favorite quotes, just as an anecdote from

730
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: this week was actually Higbee joking about Davis Allen and

731
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: how he would have been a pro bowler had he

732
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: been classified as a full back. And it really speaks

733
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: to how those tight ends and that thirteen personnel is

734
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: really working in line with the running game.

735
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

736
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: I loved it.

737
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've named him American Psycho.

738
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: Have you seen that David Allen.

739
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes, the dude. All he does is hit people, and

740
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: he looks like like a banker, you know what I

741
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: mean in the face, like you would never expect that

742
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: guy to be that crazy out there.

743
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: Got some good history in the Carolina too. I was

744
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: just thinking, like, next training camp, can they put us

745
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: on the Matthew Stafford plan, because nothing we say in

746
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: August has any.

747
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: That's right.

748
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: We were so married to the eleven personnel model. And

749
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: if you were to go back to August and try

750
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: and convince any one of us that the Rams would

751
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: be playing thirteen all season long, at their peak, at

752
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: their best.

753
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: Your guy, our guy, our favorite new toy. I think

754
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: t Fergus changed that you have that guy, those tight ends,

755
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: it changes them.

756
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: But I mean, you brought two to you back. You

757
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: went out and you recruited DeVante Adams. If you had

758
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: tried to say into a microphone this summer that the

759
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: Rams were going to be playing one receiver at a time.

760
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: They would have turned it off right, no, thank you.

761
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean part of that also was because of some

762
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: personnel and health. But along the way we realized that

763
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: it actually worked well for us. So hats off to

764
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: the tight end room. What about when the Panthers have

765
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the ball? What do we need to be weary of?

766
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: We mentioned Bryce Young, it's his first playoff game.

767
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: What can they do?

768
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: What can we do to make his life just that

769
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: much more difficult?

770
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: Hubbard Dowdell are gonna come at you. I like their

771
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: O line. I think their line is better than you think.

772
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: If they get Robert Hunt back, that's a big deal.

773
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: That's as big or maybe even bigger than getting Kevin

774
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: Dottson back would be for the Rams.

775
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're big, and they they put paws on

776
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: you and they try to run to control clock. And

777
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: the other thing is it's been the Achilles heel of

778
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: this defense going back two seasons. Is a quarterback that

779
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: can move because most of the time they're coming after

780
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: you with four and the problem with going after you

781
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: with four is they've got five to block. So if

782
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: you can find a quarterback that can step up and exploit,

783
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: you got problems. Even Brissett got out a few. And

784
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young is a better athlete, sorry Jacoby,

785
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: than he is. So that is always an issue picking

786
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: up first downs with your legs. But they present those

787
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: sort of issues and just one more thing. From a

788
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: confidence standpoint, they feel like they're better because they beat you,

789
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: we think we can make plays on you. So that

790
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: could work to their detriment or to their to the positive.

791
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: So but running the football, you're gonna have to earn it.

792
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to really stop them from running it

793
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: and force them to throw the football and then go

794
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: after him.

795
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: They throw, and they have to mm hm. Bryce Young

796
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: has fewer than two hundred and ten passing yards in

797
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: all but three games, and two of them are losses,

798
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: and the one that wasn't. We were there. So yeah,

799
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: you want to bend the game back onto his shoulders,

800
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: not because he's not capable, because he showed you he was.

801
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: But this feels like playing a bad version of last

802
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: year's Eagles. And what I mean by that is they

803
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: go for fourth down more than any team in the

804
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: league because they have to, because they're not churning the

805
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: chains and being fishing on first and second down. They're

806
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: trying to get to third and fourth and manageable and

807
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: then try and make a few miracles happen. And unfortunately,

808
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: against the Rams in late November, they went ten of

809
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: eighteen on third and fourth down, they scored a touchdown

810
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: on third and eight, on fourth and three and fourth

811
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: and two, any one of those plays or any of

812
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: the three Stafford giveaways flips the other way, and we're

813
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: probably not in Charlotte this weekend, but we are, and

814
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: it's a good chance to make amends.

815
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually what's going to be one of my

816
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: keys to victory is just thinking about can we slow

817
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: Carolina down on their first down opportunities, get them in

818
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: second and long and uncomfortable positions. I will also say too,

819
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: the last time we faced off against Carolina in week thirteen,

820
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: they had a season I forty carries. Now, albeit that

821
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: could be due to the weather because it was an

822
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: absolute downpour in Carolina, that may not be the case

823
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: this weekend.

824
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: No, they earned that right, and they earned that right

825
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: with the game script, by staying connected with the Rams

826
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: and by staying on the field.

827
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: And do you think that they're going to go right

828
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: back to that run game?

829
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Think they're going to track?

830
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: They would love to. Yeah, but the Rams win this

831
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: game if Bryce Young has to throw at forty times, ye, right,

832
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: If the Panthers can run it forty times, we're wrapping

833
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: up the season next week on this show.

834
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: All right, any final thoughts on Carolina before we take

835
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: just a broad look at the NFC playoff picture.

836
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: The same as last week the week before. It's never

837
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: been about the opponent for this football team. Is what

838
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: the Rams do and if they could bring their best game.

839
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: And when you're starting to get your best players back

840
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: on the field, it seems like you're training in the

841
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: right direction. So I like going through a little adversity

842
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: before you hit the postseason. I would love it if

843
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: you can go in rolling. I would love it if

844
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: you had the week off, but you don't have that benefit.

845
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: But the fact that you had the struggle and stress

846
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: and strain and not take a vacation, I think you

847
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: can bring that right to Carolina and take it out

848
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: on them, so to speak. But you have to play

849
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: your best game. Like you said with the forty rush attempts,

850
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: that's going to be their game plan. The one thing

851
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: you can't do is feed into that by turning the

852
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: ball over. And if you can take it away and

853
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: steal possessions, it's going to make it easier. So this

854
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: is the one you wanted, This is the way everyone

855
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: hoped it lined up, and now you got it. Now

856
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: you have to go out there and take care of

857
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: business versus Carolina did.

858
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: The two thousand and three flashback in the divisional round

859
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: against Carolina, Jake Delom and Steve Smith cross your raid

860
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: are yet not yet?

861
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm glad they don't have Steve Smith anymore.

862
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: McMillan's pretty good, isn't it crazy? Twenty I think twenty

863
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: two years to the day I saw.

864
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: Really, Oh my gosh, wow, you dating me again, So

865
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: you stop that.

866
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be a super cool atmosphere. That city

867
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: and that franchise. They have been starving for this, so

868
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: be prepared for that. But I'm glad to be kicking

869
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: off first. How do you feel about the short week,

870
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: the early Saturday game?

871
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish we were Saturday to Saturday, but

872
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: that's okay for Sunday to Saturday.

873
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: The sooner you can get to it, the better. The

874
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: only thing I worry about is, you know, versus Arizona.

875
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: Give them credit. It was a physical battle and it's

876
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: a short week, but let's just get right to.

877
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: It, especially if you can win it, because then then

878
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: it becomes an advantage a disadvantage on.

879
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: The back end of it from an NFC playoff picture standpoint,

880
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: anything really jump out to you about the other two

881
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: matchups that we'll see Packers at Bears and forty nine

882
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Ers at Eagles.

883
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: So mad. I checked the weather report in Philadelphia. I

884
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: want to give the Niners the worst possible environment ever.

885
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be sunny. It's not going

886
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: to be like snow on the ground, crazy nonsense. Really Yeah,

887
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: like we had hawf last year. It's not going to

888
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: be that. But I was looking for that. But does

889
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: not matter what anybody else does. If you can knock

890
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: out San fran then so be it. If you can

891
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: just beat each other up, that would be awesome. But

892
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: it's not going to get any easier for you no

893
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: matter who you draw after Carolina. But first take care

894
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: of Carolina.

895
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be difficult to be disappointed in the San

896
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: Francisco Philadelphia result, right right. If you're fortunate to still

897
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: be in the dance, that'll be a fun watch. I

898
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: would love to host the Niners next week, but I

899
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: fully expect to be in Philadelphia next week. That's my

900
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: that's my anticipation. Feels like the way this was meant

901
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: to go.

902
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: All right, you guys ready for the playoffs. That's supposed

903
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: to be a heck, yes, come on to Margo.

904
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm wearing a T shirt under the sweatshirt

905
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: because we would see how fired up right.

906
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: Remind people, because this was off air, why'd you throw

907
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: that sweatshirt on right before we got started?

908
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: This is where it started. This is weird. We were

909
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: sitting in the fire department with all these helicopters talking

910
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: about this, hoping we got to hear. And here we

911
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: are again, so in less need and Sean McVay, we

912
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: trust again. And like you said to start the show,

913
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: this ain't the end of it. This could be the

914
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: embryo stage of another big run, starting with another big

915
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: run this year.

916
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: And we were at the firehouse the air ops in

917
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: Van Eyes because of what happened a year ago this

918
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: week and so for those still recovering, thinking of you

919
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: and hoping go out and get another wild card win.

920
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't on the road technically last year. It was

921
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: in the home away from home in Glendale. But I

922
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: can't wait for this journey.

923
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: All right, let's here we go. That's going to do it.

924
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: Four between the horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota

925
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Dealers again, JB. Longedmarco Farr, I'm Cameron Irwin and the

926
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: Rams and Panthers facing off in the wild card matchup

927
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Speaker 1: comes Saturday at one thirty on his head