WEBVTT - How Did the Stonewall Riots Work?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Brainstuff, a production of iHeartRadio, Hey Brainstuff Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>boglebaumb Here in the West Village neighborhood of New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>the neat grid of streets collapses into a tangle of

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<v Speaker 1>odd angles and jagged alleys. A few blocks from Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Square Park, the streets converged like the center of a

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<v Speaker 1>spider's web, seeming to meet at the Stonewall Inn. The

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<v Speaker 1>stone Wall was never showy. It was a dive bar

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<v Speaker 1>with one significant feature. It catered to queer people. On

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<v Speaker 1>a hot summer night in nineteen sixty nine, the police

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<v Speaker 1>raided the place, a lining up gay men, lesbians, trans people,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the bar's mafia connected owners, demanding to see

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<v Speaker 1>id before filing them off to be arrested or into

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<v Speaker 1>the night. In recent years, police had raided gay bars

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of times and other cities across America, but something

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<v Speaker 1>was different that night. The crowd vehemently fought back. The

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<v Speaker 1>resulting riots galvanized the gay rights movement in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>which until then had been quiet and slow to anger.

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<v Speaker 1>So what exactly happened that night? Why did the community

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<v Speaker 1>there react so differently? Today? Let's talk about the Stonewall

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<v Speaker 1>Riots and why they took on such a prominent role

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of queer rights in America. As you

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<v Speaker 1>may have noticed, queer people face many challenges here today,

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<v Speaker 1>both social and political, but queer life before the Stonewall

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<v Speaker 1>Riots was something else. Before the nineteen seventies, a web

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<v Speaker 1>of local and state laws restricted the rights of queer people.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on the area, this might have included anything from

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<v Speaker 1>the restriction of dancing in public with the same sex

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<v Speaker 1>partner to antisodomy laws that criminalized private sexual acts performed

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<v Speaker 1>consensually by adults in their own homes. Police used these

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<v Speaker 1>laws to harass and intimidate, raiding gay clubs and enforcing

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<v Speaker 1>gender pro clothing laws. These were laws requiring a person

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a minimum of three pieces of clothing deemed

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for their sex, which of course were designed to

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<v Speaker 1>target trans people, cross dressers, or anyone else who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>conform two gender norms. In every state except Illinois, which

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<v Speaker 1>became the first to repeal it sodomy laws in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one, it was effectively illegal to be gay or

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise queer. A quick side note here on terminology, the

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<v Speaker 1>language used by members of these communities to describe themselves

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<v Speaker 1>has changed drastically since the nineteen sixties and is still

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<v Speaker 1>changing today. Some words like queer have gone from a

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<v Speaker 1>slur to being considered one of the more egalitarian ways

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<v Speaker 1>to describe humans of the LGBTQIA spectrum, and other words

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<v Speaker 1>have gone from common use to something that I would

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<v Speaker 1>personally not say into a microphone today. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more on this later, but I did want to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>it now, but okay to continue. A culture of silence

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<v Speaker 1>and fear surrounded much of queer life in mid twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>century America. Until a Supreme Court ruling in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>you could legally be fired from your job if you

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<v Speaker 1>were revealed to be queer. Until nineteen seventy three, homosexuality

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<v Speaker 1>was listed as a disorder in the American Psychiatric Association's

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<v Speaker 1>Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, or DSM. Being gay was viewed

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<v Speaker 1>as a mental illness for so long that some people

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<v Speaker 1>truly believed that they were sick and had a problem

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to hide or overcome. People were under constant

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to conform. The nineteen fifties were especially brutal due

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<v Speaker 1>to the effect of witch hunt, sometimes known as the

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<v Speaker 1>lavender scare. From around nineteen forty five to nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the anti communist scourge of McCarthyism also targeted queer people

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<v Speaker 1>as perverts or criminals. This hysteria regressed gay rights and

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<v Speaker 1>attitudes towards queer people, which had gradually become more relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning of the nineteen hundreds. People found themselves

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<v Speaker 1>disowned or otherwise shunned by their families and wider communities.

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<v Speaker 1>But the pre Stonewall era was not entirely without hope.

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<v Speaker 1>A movement in favor of gay civil rights began to

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<v Speaker 1>grow in the nineteen fifties, known as the homophile movement.

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<v Speaker 1>It emphasized a quiet, conformist version of gayness. While their

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<v Speaker 1>specific successes were limited, it helped craft a positive queer

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<v Speaker 1>identity and also established a nationwide network that helped queer

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<v Speaker 1>people communicate, mostly via newsletters. Still, during this time, there

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<v Speaker 1>were few places queer people could openly meet up and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the culture they were creating. The Stonewall Inn was

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. The Stonewall Inn, on Christopher Street in

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<v Speaker 1>the western part of Granenwich Village, was originally a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of brick buildings that housed stables than a bakery. The

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<v Speaker 1>Stonewall Inn restaurant opened at the location in nineteen thirty four. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>as queer culture began building in New York, While being

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<v Speaker 1>gay in public was practically illegal and many bars refused

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<v Speaker 1>queer patrons, figures in organized crimes saw on opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>exploit a market that wasn't being served by legal establishments,

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen sixty seven, a small group of mafia

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<v Speaker 1>connected investors opened The Stone Wall as a gay bar.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, several gay clubs and bars around New

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<v Speaker 1>York City had mafia owners. Primarily gay men went to

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<v Speaker 1>The Stone Wall, though lesbians and trans people did as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a multi ethnic crowd. There was an informal

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<v Speaker 1>segregation between the main bar populated by masculine gay men,

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<v Speaker 1>and the back room's dance floor, home to queens and

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<v Speaker 1>other groups who were more vulnerable or held lesser status

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<v Speaker 1>according to contemporary stigmas. Another terminology note. In the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>the word queens referred to effeminate gay men who may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not have worn feminine clothing or presented themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as women. This is a source of some confusion in

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<v Speaker 1>historical accounts. Reports of the queens instigating the riot have

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<v Speaker 1>led to disagreements over the role that trans women played

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<v Speaker 1>its stone Wall anyway, despite the bar's popularity, its bafia

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<v Speaker 1>connections created a lot of tension. It's likely the owners

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<v Speaker 1>dealt drugs and operated a prostitution ring out of the joint,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was no secret that they paid bribes to

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<v Speaker 1>the cops of the sixth Precinct to look the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>There's evidence that at least one owner ran a gay

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<v Speaker 1>blackmail racket, but threatening to out patrons who didn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>them off. The owners also didn't invest a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money or effort into the Stonewall In. It was a grimy,

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<v Speaker 1>dark place, and the drinks were usually watered down. Even

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<v Speaker 1>with its flaws, the Stonewall In was a refuge for

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<v Speaker 1>many queer people, one of the few places they felt

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<v Speaker 1>accepted and relatively safe from harassment, even if only for

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<v Speaker 1>a few hours of dancing to motown hits. The night

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<v Speaker 1>the Stonewall riots occurred was no exception until the police

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<v Speaker 1>showed up a little after one am. Deputy Inspector seymour

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<v Speaker 1>Pine of Manhattan's first Division of Public Morals had several

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<v Speaker 1>undercover officers inside the Stone Wall in on Friday, June

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh of nineteen sixty nine. He arrived at the

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<v Speaker 1>door of the bar after one am, so technically the

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<v Speaker 1>raid and riot occurred on Saturday the twenty eighth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>notable that Pine and the officers who initially participated in

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<v Speaker 1>the raid were not part of the sixth Precinct. Pine's

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<v Speaker 1>officers entered the Stone Wall with the intention of shutting

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<v Speaker 1>it down permanently and arresting the owners for selling liquor

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<v Speaker 1>without a license. They had raided it once already that

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<v Speaker 1>summer as part of a plan to shut down all

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mafia owned gay bars in Manhattan. But for

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of reasons, this raid went differently from the others.

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<v Speaker 1>A first, the officers wouldn't let people out of the

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<v Speaker 1>bar without seeing id, which was one of many tactics

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<v Speaker 1>meant to intimidate and humiliate queer people. Patrons exited the

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<v Speaker 1>bar one by one, slowly forming a crowd outside as

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<v Speaker 1>they waited for their friends to emerge. The crowd crew

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<v Speaker 1>as onlookers joined, many of them disenfranchised street kids, a

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<v Speaker 1>queer youth who had left home with nowhere else to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and Eventually, this high spirited crowd erupted into a full

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<v Speaker 1>scale riot for several reasons that have been debated, but

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<v Speaker 1>here's a rundown. First, though Pine repeatedly requested backup officers,

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth Precinct didn't send them. There's evidence that this

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<v Speaker 1>was intentional because the sixth was getting kickbacks from the

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<v Speaker 1>stone Wall and resented someone barging into their jurisdiction to

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<v Speaker 1>conduct a raid. As a result, there were far too

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<v Speaker 1>few officers on site to control the growing crowd. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the prior raids on the stone Wall and

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<v Speaker 1>other queer bars around Manhattan, the people on site may

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<v Speaker 1>have felt like their last refuge was being thretened, that

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<v Speaker 1>they were being backed into a corner that had enough

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<v Speaker 1>of police harassment. Further, with this tension in place, a

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<v Speaker 1>few people physically resisted arrest, which transformed the incident from

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<v Speaker 1>a shouting match to a physical confrontation. Most accounts described

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<v Speaker 1>one lesbian woman who had been in the Stonewall fiercely

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<v Speaker 1>battling cops who tried to stuff her into a patrol car,

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<v Speaker 1>escalating the situation as she fought. Some accounts cite people

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<v Speaker 1>like Jackie Hormona and Marsha P. Johnson as key players

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<v Speaker 1>in inciting the riot. The physical altercations led to the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd further escalating to throwing stuff at the cops. They

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<v Speaker 1>started out with coins, then bottles, then bricks, either pried

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<v Speaker 1>from the street or taken from a nearby construction site.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, Pines sensed the danger and retreated into

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<v Speaker 1>the stone wall in with the other officers. A few

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<v Speaker 1>of the bar's patrons and one reporter were also inside.

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<v Speaker 1>The rioters grew even angrier that police now occupied the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>and they battered the door open using a parking meter

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<v Speaker 1>ripped from the street. Some of them even tried to

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<v Speaker 1>light garbage near the stonewall's windows on fire. Meanwhile, from

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<v Speaker 1>the CoP's perspective, it was a surprise that anyone even

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<v Speaker 1>fought back. In multiple accounts of the incident, police who

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<v Speaker 1>were involved expressed astonishment. They were used to gay men

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<v Speaker 1>living in shame and fear of being exposed, and many

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<v Speaker 1>saw them as stereotypically effeminate and passive. It was inconceivable

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<v Speaker 1>to them that queer people would ever stand up for themselves. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>fire trucks arrived, along with officers from the sixth precinct

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond, including from New York City's Technical Patrol Force.

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<v Speaker 1>They were equipped to deal with riots, and Pine and

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<v Speaker 1>the officers with him were able to leave the Stonewall in. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd outside had swelled, attracting local residents and queer

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<v Speaker 1>people from across New York City who were drawn there

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<v Speaker 1>by phone calls from friends. Estimates of the crowd sides

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<v Speaker 1>ranged from five hundred to a thousand people or more.

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<v Speaker 1>A protracted series of street skirmishes and chases between cops

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<v Speaker 1>and the crowd lasted a few hours and resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>property damage and some injuries. The tangled geometry of the

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood's streets made it difficult for the police to maintain control.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple witnesses reported police attacking and beating rioters, who, in

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<v Speaker 1>many cases were just dancing and singing in the street. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd did disperse and the riot ended. If nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else had happened afterwards, it may have been an isolated

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<v Speaker 1>incident with minor importance in LGBTQIA history. But on Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>news of the riots drew hundreds or possibly thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people to Christopher Street. The Stonewall Inn reopened and served

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<v Speaker 1>as a central point and signboard. The crowd was made

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<v Speaker 1>up predominantly of queer people, but it also became something

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<v Speaker 1>of a more general counterculture event, drawing hippies, civil rights protesters,

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<v Speaker 1>and even tourists. The crowd on the second night also

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<v Speaker 1>threw bottles and garbage at the police and engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>street chases with them, but it was much more political.

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<v Speaker 1>People gave speeches, Chants of gay power were prominent, and

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<v Speaker 1>groups hinted up pamphlets about gay rights, police corruption, and

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<v Speaker 1>mafia involvement in queer spaces. By Sunday night, the crowds

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<v Speaker 1>were smaller. The police outnumbered the protesters, who mainly gathered

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<v Speaker 1>at a nearby park, holding hands, kissing, and dancing. In total,

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<v Speaker 1>the Stonewall riots and protests lasted six nights, but the

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<v Speaker 1>repercussions were not so confined. A few months later, a

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<v Speaker 1>commemorative march took place in New York, and similar marches

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<v Speaker 1>were held in cities across the US. On the first

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the riots, thousands of people marched from Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Park to Central Park. It was the first queer pride

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<v Speaker 1>parade in America, creating a precedent for annual celebrations around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. In following the riots, groups like the Gay

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Front and the Gay Activists Alliance organized and made

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<v Speaker 1>a prolonged and focused push for gay rights in a

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<v Speaker 1>far more visible and vocal way than groups had before.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, civil rights work is always an ongoing process,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Stonewall Riots weren't the first time queer people

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<v Speaker 1>reacted violently to police harassment. Uprisings due to law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>raids and misconduct occurred in San Francisco in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five and sixty six and in Los Angeles in sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Mainstream newspapers virtually ignored all of them, including Stonewall, But

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<v Speaker 1>Stonewall is considered a key turning point today for a

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<v Speaker 1>few reasons. For one thing, the Stonewall riots were larger

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<v Speaker 1>in scale and lasted longer than other instants. Also, gay

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<v Speaker 1>rights activists succeeded in finding an effective way to commemorate

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<v Speaker 1>the riots, using a march, which became an inclusive parade

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<v Speaker 1>that allowed a wide range of queer people and allies

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<v Speaker 1>to participate. But an ironic reason that the Stonewall Riots

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<v Speaker 1>are considered the start of the gay rights movement is

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<v Speaker 1>precisely because the riots were not the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>gay rights movement. One of the most important factors of

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<v Speaker 1>an events legacy is the existence of a community with

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<v Speaker 1>the desire and capacity to remember it. Those quiet gay

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<v Speaker 1>rights organizations that were working in the fifties and sixties

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<v Speaker 1>created an organized, nationwide community of queer people who communicated

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. That existing infrastructure is a major part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story of Stonewall. For the article of this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is based on How Stuff Works. Spoke via email

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<v Speaker 1>with Susan Freeman, Associate professor and chair of the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Gender and Women's Studies at Western Michigan University. She

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<v Speaker 1>said a longer view of gay and lesbian history works

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<v Speaker 1>to de center Stonewall as the all important turning point,

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<v Speaker 1>as does recognition of the impact act of young liberation

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<v Speaker 1>activists who moved homophile organizations toward greater militancy. Stonewall as

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<v Speaker 1>an event took hold of people's consciousness, largely because of

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<v Speaker 1>the grassroots organizing that followed it, plus the annual commemorations

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<v Speaker 1>and organizations that adopted the name. Today, as with any

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<v Speaker 1>event that's reached mythic status, there's a lot of disagreement

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<v Speaker 1>over exactly what happened during the Stonewall Riots. There are

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<v Speaker 1>conflicting claims about who was involved, including the identity of

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<v Speaker 1>the lesbian who fought the cops or the person who

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<v Speaker 1>threw the first brick. Of course, it would be great

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<v Speaker 1>to know those people, but the larger story is what's important.

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<v Speaker 1>A truly diverse crowd, by many accounts, led by the

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<v Speaker 1>most marginalized people in it was part of a movement

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<v Speaker 1>of people who worked together, Freeman said, similar to Rosa

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<v Speaker 1>Parks refusing to give up her seat on a segregated bus,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a much broader social movement content in which

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<v Speaker 1>the Stonewall Riots took place. The Stonewall Inn is still

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<v Speaker 1>a privately owned bar. In twenty sixteen, the Stonewall Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Park and some nearby streets were designated a National Monument

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<v Speaker 1>by President Obama, the first dedicated to queer rights. The

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<v Speaker 1>annual New York City Pride March still ends on Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Street every year on the anniversary of the riots. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode is based on the article how the Stonewall Riots

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