1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: partnership with Higheart Radio, shown as. 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Katie, how's your social life lately? What have you been doing? 4 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Have you been going out? Wait? Do you have heat? 5 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: We no heat yet, but today they just installed the 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: water heater today. So, folks, it's been almost a month 7 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: that I've been showering with literally freezing cold water. It's 8 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: like extra cold. But today is they just installed the 9 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: water heater. So as I was showering today, it went 10 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: from freezing cold to like hot, and I was like, oh, 11 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: did you I didn't, but you check this out. Okay, 12 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: you're so in the middle of me taking the hot shower, 13 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: I turned it all the way to cold, like not 14 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: completely cold, but I was like, oh, this is because 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know my body. 16 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: You're not trained it, I know. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: And now I'm like, well I don't want it too hot. Yeah. 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, You'll change that. 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll go away, Yeah. 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: That will go away. Well, I have shit all in 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: my teeth because I was I was drinking a smoothie. 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Have you ever had mirror lax? I think it makes 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: you poop. 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: Oh listen, everybody knows who knows me knows that I 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: poop like a duck. I don't need any help. 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: Wow, you and I are yin and yang. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. I could literally think about pooping and be like, 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom. 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 2: You're so lucky if I don't chug like the most 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: water ever. I am just not a regular goal. Really, 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: I was just watching this episode, Oh, Darby, her acting work, 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm so envious, Like I just fuck her and her 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: fucking face, her fucking hair, her fucking body acting chops, 34 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: her acting chops. She's unbelievable. 35 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Listen, this is that scene when she's like boarding David 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: in his apartment, even her hair was acting. 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: That's what I was just finishing watching. And she's like 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: the best at almost getting upset and holding it. 39 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: Which is so much more powerful than going there slipping 40 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: out completely. 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Darby. 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: And the first day we met her, if I'm not mistaken, 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: was when we were about to do a table read 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: right for like some executives whoever it was some of 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the Will Sewan it was a writer, but producers and 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: what have you, studio people. But that's the first time 47 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: we met her. In the first time, like she had 48 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: just she had just been cast and then she was 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: thrown into like, Okay, we're gonna do the table read. Yeah, 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken crazy, Yes. 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: And I also remember meeting her. She like came in 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: and she was wearing the like suit. I think she 53 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: wore to like the audition, which she had just had. 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: I also think that the breakdown was like for a 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: much older woman who likes cats or like or like 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: pin like a needling, like fucking sewing or whatever, like 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: again similar to you, like, Yeah, she was completely different 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: from what the breakdown called for. 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Yes, And I love that Shonda has an open mind 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: that way, and she's like, Nope, I'm going completely against type. 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeh from you know that that was in the breakdown. 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: A breakdown is a description of the character when you 63 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: go in for the audition. It's like you look in 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: like describing the character. 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: The most famous one that I ever heard of was 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: I think on Grey's Anatomy, this is like folklore in Shondaland. 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true, but I had 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: heard that the breakdown for Chandro Wilson characters. So it's 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Chandra Wilson who fucking runs Gray's Anatomy and is like, 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, the bulldog she plays doctor Bailey. The breakdown 71 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: was for a Kristin Chenowith type, what like a tiny 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: southern blonde like the girl next like a teeny teeny 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: animal that you would never expect to be the like 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: fucking driver of the you know, and like that. 75 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Wow, I wonder if Kristin Chennawick auditioned for the role, 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: she might right. 77 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: And then supposedly Chandra Wilson came in and Shonda and 78 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: Lindelowie were like, Nope, that's Bailey, that's Space. 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine anyone else playing that role. Do you 80 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: remember my Chandra. Chandra likes to make. 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: It clear Chandra people called brilliant women. It's Hawk, it's Millie, 82 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: and it's Chandra, rhymes to like everyone in my family. 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, it is not Chandra rhymes like please stop, 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: it's Chandra will and Shonda rhymes exactly. 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: And do you remember when Chandra came on set and 86 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: she was shadowing. I think she was shadowing a director 87 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: for a few days. Oh man, I was so star 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: trust I love what She's such a great actor, she's 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: so good. 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: Such a great everything was the person that sat me down, 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, how do you do this? Like 92 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: how do you have longevity? Like she was just saying 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: the key to episodic television was to just like, it's 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: all about the journey and the pace rather than like 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: the you know, what did I get this episode or 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: what didn't I get or whatever. She's like, you have 97 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: to look at this as like one huge, very long 98 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: paste thing and really think about like the healthiest things 99 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: you can do for the longevity of this, right. 100 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: That's so, that's that's such great advice because even for me, 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean there were times that I'd read an episode 102 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, what the fuck, Like Huck is 103 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: hardly in this and so and so has so much 104 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: stuff to do, and yeah, you know, you start to 105 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: take it personal. But that I love that advice. It's 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a mam. 107 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: She was like, no, exactly, exactly exactly. 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: And always, always, never failed. There was always an episode 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: down the pike that it was like super heavy with 110 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: your character, you know what I mean? So, yes, if 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: you just you. 112 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Know patience, by the way, people, we are talking about 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: episode two oh six, right, yes, spy, we're talking about 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: episode two o six Spies Like Us. It aired on 115 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: November fifteenth to twenty twelve, and it was. 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: Written by Chris Van Duson and directed by Bethany Rooney. 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: There is a fucking scene where you're in Huck's office 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: and I walk in and you're listening to this amazing music, 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about in a second of what's going 120 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: on the episode. But I came, what hi covin? And 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: it's so obvious that I'm looking at my mark, like 122 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: before my mark. Really the dumbest You have to go 123 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: back to the first scene where you are like decoding 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: the classical sheet music that had been yeah yeah, and 125 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: someone's already in there. I think Darby's already in there. 126 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: What the fuck is that sound? And Clinn walks in 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: and I take a real long step looking down for 128 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: a while, and then you see my dumb ass fucking 129 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: face look on it and trying to pretend like no 130 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: one noticed. How long I just like looked down for 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: the mark. 132 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: Yo for the listeners. A mark like when you're acting, 133 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the camera department will put down a piece of tape 134 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: with different different color to all actors have their own color, 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and they call those marks and you have to hit 136 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: those marks so the camera could focus on you properly. 137 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: But a lot of oftentimes, like I see it all 138 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: the time on movies and TV shows where people look 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: down and then they look up and start acting because 140 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: they're looking for their mark. They want to make sure 141 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: they hit their mark, because if you're off, then you 142 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: know you're out of focus or you're not in the 143 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: frame right. 144 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: And the mark is like a t shape with one 145 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: piece of masking tape that goes in between your left 146 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: and right foot and then in te the top of 147 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: the tee your toes are supposed to hit, And like 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: on Scandal a lot of times with the beveled glass 149 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: and all this shit, it was like if you missed 150 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: it by even ninch, you were fucked and you were 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: fucking up their shot. 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I made sure always to be like, walk up 153 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: to the mark once or twice and get used to it, yeah, 154 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: without looking at it. And then I always told myself, 155 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: do not look for your mark, because I would rather 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: be off. 157 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: And act the shit out of it than look down. 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, honey, go back in this episode and take 160 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: a look at my work, because it is amateur acting, 161 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: one oh one. It is garbage. On a So Bad 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: It's Really Bad off Episode two. Sex is guest starring 163 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Susan poor Far as Becky Flynn, Sam Anderson is Melvin Fien, 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: Mary Pat Gleason as Betsy Ray. 165 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Adam Lazar White as Paul Gray, and Sarah Aldrich as 166 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Maggie Andrews who's also wink. 167 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. They have all their spine names. Yeah, 168 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: and you were spin. 169 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: Oh, I was spin because they thought he would never 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: find someone, so spin short for Spinster. 171 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: Right, you and you know what. At the end of Scandal, 172 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: they were right. 173 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: Jaca is still fucking Willy spin. 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: Willy Spence is just alone. 175 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: God damn it? 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: What the fuck? Uh okay? Synopsis Real Quick, Huck's old 177 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: handler publicly executes himself as a warning to Huck, who 178 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: is prepared to leave it a moment's notice, but Olivia 179 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: begs for time to sort out what's going on, where 180 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: she then learns that about the threat to expose B 181 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: six thirteen from an Internet hacker. 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: Huck assembles his old coworkers an ensemble of fellow assassins, 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: one of who must be the person ready to supply 184 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: the proof of the other operatives. 185 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: The OPA team only have a short time to fix 186 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: the case before the killers handily themselves. That's right, that's right. 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: So many guns in this episode. 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: So many guns. 189 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: Yo, guns, fuck. 190 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: Are fucking props. People were so hot, like shelf like professionals, 191 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Like there was never a handing off of a gun 192 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: without everyone. I remember the crew even asking to look 193 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: inside the gun if we were any of us were 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: holding a gun. 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe how many times on the show I 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: held a gun. Didn't you me too, like hundreds of times. 197 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: You know. A memory that popped up watching this episode 198 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: is how fucking heavy are those damn guns? 199 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: When you told me about shooting this episode, shaking everybody 200 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: was when you're holding a gun. 201 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Listen, it's not heavy, but when you're holding a gun 202 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: up to another person in a scene, and sometimes in 203 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: this scene, we're holding that gun up and there's like 204 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: how many people. There's like eight of us in the scene, 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: so you have to hold that gun up for everyone's 206 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: coverage that she gets. 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: It's no your arms were shaking, you would tell. You 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: told me after you shot this episode that it's like 209 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: you're trying to look like a motherfucker, like you're trying 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: to be so cool, and you're holding your gun with 211 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: like a perfectly straight arm, like at someone's face, and 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: your arm is just straight up quivering, shaking. 213 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: My fucking breast are sweating. 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: Your pectoral My pectorals are away. My god. I love 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: this episode. I love everything having to do with spies. 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we say that every single episode, but no, 217 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: fucking good. 218 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I know they're all fucking good, but this point, Quinn 219 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: is not a spot. Quinn is not B six thirteen. 220 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: This is the first motherfucking episode that we ever hear 221 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: the words BE six thirteen. Ye what writer in the 222 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: writer's room? Yeah, came up with the terminology B six thirteen. 223 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Give him cookies the fuck. 224 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: This is also the first episode that I was like, Yo, 225 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: this episode feels special, it feels different. I was like, 226 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: this episode could be a movie. 227 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: Yes, it totally felt like a movie. 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's this ominous, like dangerous tone to it. 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: It's such such a special episode, and it was special 230 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: shooting it too. 231 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: It almost feels like a bottle episode, where like it's 232 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: its own storyline and its own container. I mean that's 233 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: not true, because the episode is filled with other stuff. 234 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: There's like shit going on in the white House where 235 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: James Novak writes a fucking article on the front page 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: of The Times out like that, using that Cyrus is 237 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: talking about Hollis and now Hollis has got a bone 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: and it's it's bad. 239 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: We have Edison and Olivia like going on a date. Yeah, yeah, they're. 240 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: Super cute together. But the shit that's going on in 241 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: OPA is big talk, big fighting for the office. There's 242 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: Steven has not been in the office and it's been 243 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: sitting there empty its entire second season, and everyone's doing 244 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: big office talk. Abby, Harrison, and Quinn all want that office. Yeah, 245 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: but I just love this episode. What I was thinking 246 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Quinn has no idea yet 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: that she's going to be B six thirteen, that she 248 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: at one point on this show is also going to 249 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: be trained, that she's going to know how to do 250 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: all this shit. 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: Like Yeah, there's even a scene where you mentioned what 252 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: is B six thirteen and Olivia gives you this look 253 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: and you're like, what what what did I say? 254 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: What's the issue? 255 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still that deer in headlights in this episode. 256 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: Oh God, we will be back with more after the break. 257 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: The Abby David shit in this episode is a huge winner. 258 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: I mean he starts the episode saying, like you want 259 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: a drawer? It just is filled with like my hiking shit, 260 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: and I don't go hiking, so would you like a drawer? 261 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? And she's also it goes from that to like 262 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: a shot of Olivia listening to that conversation, like she's 263 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: spying on them, and it was the first time I 264 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, Like Olivia's no joke, Like she's 265 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: going dark, like. 266 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: A bad friend. You're a bad, bad, bad friend, Like 267 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: your friend is clearly very happy. He's a very good dude. 268 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: I think carry did such a good job. There's like 269 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: the bobble Head seen where she's listening and overhearing that 270 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: Abby and David are getting more serious and then she 271 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: knows that they can't be together because we can't have 272 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: Abby and them figuring out about defiance. But she sends 273 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: in Brolivia, and by Brolivia, I mean Harris Harrison. Harrison 274 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: goes to Livia like shit's getting weird in here, Dude, 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: shit is getting weird. There are fucking spies in here. 276 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Abby's having sex with you know, David Rosen, you are 277 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: with Edison, Like what is going on? 278 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Things you're not Steven. 279 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a ghost. There's a ghost in this office, 280 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: Like what is up? And she's like, he's like what 281 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: do I do? What can I do? 282 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: What do you need? 283 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: And she's like I need you to end David Rosen 284 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: and Abby and he's like just kind of quiet, and 285 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: then she kind of says this line while she leaving 286 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: the room, but she says, like her husband used to 287 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:09,239 Speaker 2: beat her. Use that so her that's. 288 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Not right, that's best friends do. Hell no. And also 289 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: because Harrison is so close with Abby, the fact that 290 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: he's the one that then ends up going and pays 291 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: one of Rosen's ex girlfriends from one hundred years ago, yes, 292 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: from one hundred years ago, to lie and say that 293 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: David beat her. Oh, it's such such a fucked up situation. 294 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: All around, so fucked up, and Darby does such exquisite 295 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: work at the end. More towards the end of the episode, 296 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: she storms into David's apartment and she's like, you're not 297 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: a good guy. You're not a good guy, Like, look, 298 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: I have fucking photos of this girl's beat up, fucking 299 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: face from what you did. And he's like, go talk 300 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: to her, go ask her yourself, and she's like, I did. 301 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: I went to coffee with her yesterday. She was crying 302 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: and I trust my. 303 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Door told me. Yeah, I heard it from the horse's mouth, yes. 304 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: And then and then Abby is like, and these are 305 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: the pictures of me when my husband. 306 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Beat me, and I found them in your drawer, like 307 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: they were in your boulders. 308 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: And I was a target because you knew that I 309 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: was a target and then I was easy and that 310 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: I was a weak person, which is like Abby's achilles heel, 311 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: that anyone is ever going to think she's weak, and 312 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: it's why she's built this character that's had this whole 313 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: totally tough exterior. And then he tries to come near 314 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: her and like kind of console her, and she fucking 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: flinches and she's like, if you ever come near me, 316 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: I will kill you. 317 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: She's oh, and you believe that shit. 318 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh you believe And then stupid ass bitch Olivia. Sorry, Gladiators, 319 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: I know we've Livia more than anything and she can 320 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: do no wrong. But then Abby's just sitting on her 321 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: office OPA couch saying like, I'm sorry I broke up 322 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: with David Rosen. I betrayed you, and I'm so sorry. Yeah, 323 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: she's holding tissues, and Olivia's like, it's okay, I'm there there, 324 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: and Harrison like walks through the back of the office 325 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: feeling like a shit like he should you. 326 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Said there there? I fucking love that, yo. But the 327 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: other thing that stood out for me in this episode 328 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: they're there, they're there. Are the fucking guest stars in 329 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: this episode? Like, how fucking lucky were we to have 330 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: these people? This dude Sam Anderson. Let me just rattle 331 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: off a few of his credits, New Heart, Hardcastle and McCormick, 332 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: The Golden Girls, Cagney and Lacy, What's Happening Now? Twenty one, 333 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: Jump Street, La Bamba, Forrest Gump, Growing Pains, Lost of Course, 334 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: and then he did a bunch of horror movies. He 335 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: did a movie called Wija Origin of Evil. And that's 336 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: just a few of his credits. 337 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Do you know any of the horror films he has appeared? 338 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I do, I do Oija Origin of Evil. It's about 339 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: a Oiji board. 340 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, do you like Ouiji boards? 341 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: Hell? No, Katie, no, no no. I had a very 342 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: bad experience with a Wiji board when I was in 343 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: a grammar school and then in high school again, I 344 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: played it with friends and it it worked. Man, It's 345 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: scared the shit out of me. I had horrible dreams 346 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: and nightmares and I just from the. 347 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: First time or the second time, we're both from. 348 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Both, from both, and then years cut to years later. 349 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember Teresa Kaputo from the Long Island Medium. 350 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: She's a medium. 351 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: She's been on Katie's Crib talking about Good Morning, her book. Yes, 352 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: I've been on her show. You've been on her show, 353 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: and she's been a guest on Katie's Crib. We had 354 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: her on my other podcast talking about how to teach 355 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: children about death, how to talk to them about death, 356 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: how to properly mourn in front of children. She's fucking amazing. 357 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: But okay, what did she say? 358 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: They asked me to do an episode of Long Island 359 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Medium as well, and she came to me in Mikey's 360 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: house and she did a reading. When she was reading 361 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: us and doing her thing, she said, have you ever 362 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: played a widow Wigi board? And I said yeah, yeah, 363 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. And she said, 364 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: there's a spirit that you conjured up that came out 365 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: from when you played, that has been with you your 366 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: whole life. I have chills by my fucking arms right now. 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm not even I am too, and I am fucking speechless, 368 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: and you know I'm never speechless. 369 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: Katie the Hair, I can't believe how. 370 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: Fuck did she say that the spirit was? 371 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: She said he's not bad. She even said his name. 372 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I believe his name was Charlie. I wrote it down 373 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: in my thing. Isn't that crazy? But she said he 374 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: just attached himself to me. He's not evil, he's not bad, 375 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: but he just stayed with me. And she said that's 376 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: why people shouldn't. People think it's a game, and you know, 377 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: it's not real, but she was like, that's why people 378 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: should not play, because sometimes that could happen and it 379 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: could be a bad spirit and then you have this 380 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: horrible energy. 381 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: Like she does say that when she brings up spirits. 382 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: She always says this terminology that I don't really like 383 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: to even think about because it kind of freaks me out. 384 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: But she's like, we're only asking for the spirits to 385 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: show up. Who are you know? Of are of good intention? 386 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: And like, yeah, will or something like that. And I 387 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: questioned her once about it. I was like, why do 388 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: you have to say that? And I didn't want to 389 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: even hear the answer, because I was like kind of scared, 390 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: but she was just like, well, because you know, there 391 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: can be some spirits that aren't that don't have the 392 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: best intentions and they're really not great. And I'm like, 393 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: oh my god. 394 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Just like in real life, there's terrifying, Like but can 395 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: you fucking believe that? That's my fucking experience with So. 396 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: Why did you do it again the second time after 397 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: the first time? 398 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't know, because you know, 399 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: peer pressure, your friends we were I did it too. 400 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: I was peer pressured like multiple times to do is 401 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: fucking horrible. And you're all screaming at each other like 402 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: you're moving it. No, you're moving it. You moved it. 403 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: And you were supposed to start the ouiji boord session 404 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: with like are there any spirits currently in the room 405 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: or something like that, and it'll point to like yes, 406 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: and then you're like and then you're like, what is 407 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: your name? And it like spells out a name and 408 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: then you're like. 409 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: And when I played it, I went I went to 410 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: Catholic school my whole life. I played it in our 411 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: cafeteria in my school, which is attached to a church, 412 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: so I was in a sort of you know, a 413 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: sacred place if you will, and that's where I was 414 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: playing it. And then we played it again at my 415 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: friend's house that same day, that same night anyway. 416 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: And she said, Charlie has attached himself to you your 417 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: whole life. 418 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Can you believe that? 419 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: Do you ever when you're alone in a room, do 420 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: you feel like I'm not alone because he's here, or 421 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: do you feel do you ever feel totally alone? 422 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: I thank the universe that I never feel anything evil 423 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: or unsettling around me. It's funny. After Teresa did that 424 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: whole day with us of shooting and yeah, you know, 425 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: giving us the reading, for about a week, Mikey and 426 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I kept seeing stuff like moving or we were like 427 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: shadows and it felt like there was there was presences 428 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: around us, and it was it was weird. And then 429 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: someone we talked to someone who worked on the show 430 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and they said, yeah, sometimes though spirits of course will 431 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: stick around, you know for a little bit. Because she 432 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: just had them all come to your house so she 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: could talk to them. Oh and that was that was weird. 434 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: But it wasn't again, it wasn't evil, It wasn't you know, 435 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: anything negative. 436 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Charlie is not malevolent? Yes, yes, how did we get 437 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: on this subject? 438 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I know because fucking Sam Origin of Evil? 439 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, was it a good movie? 440 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Oh it was a good movie. But you know, g 441 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: Boord movies freak me out because I start thinking about 442 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: my experiences. 443 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: Odd. Okay, So other things that happened in this episode 444 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: is that all these guest stars come in and all 445 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: of the o PA people are waiting for all of 446 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: them to arrive, and we think they're gonna be like 447 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: the craziest, most badass looking spies you've ever seen in 448 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: your life. And the first one to come out is 449 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: Maggie Andrew's wink and she's so cute and she's a 450 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: mother of three and she's a little pink cardigan, super blonde, 451 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: super blonde. And then all of a sudden she starts 452 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: to like throw all of her guns in the. 453 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Bast Yeah, is like, we gotta scrub you. Yeah. I 454 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: love that too, because even when I first read this episode, 455 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: I thought I had all these like, you know, just 456 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: your typical, your stereotypical like thug looking, spy looking people. 457 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, there's gonna be some interesting actors. 458 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: And they were all very like woman next door, guy 459 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: next door. 460 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: And it's like such a dress. The other one looks 461 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: like a librarian. Mary pat Gleeson, who's unbelievable. 462 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh, Mary Pet Gleason, I love her. She just passed 463 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: away in twenty twenty. Yeah, but she was. Yeah, she's 464 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: been in a ton of great stuff. She was in 465 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: Mama's Family, which I love so much. I love the 466 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: carabernetco and Murphy Brown Troop Beverly Hills. 467 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: She's legend, She's legend. 468 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: She was in the Crucible. Yeah, she played Martha Corey 469 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: in The Crucible. Yeah, which she was in Basic. 470 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: She's had such an incredible she had an incredible career. 471 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: I am so sad to hear that she does. 472 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I know right, me too, me too. And her character's 473 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: name is a Matches because. 474 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: She could just light ship the. 475 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Fly shot, burned the place down. 476 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: What was Maggie Andrews's special spy for? 477 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: She was a sniper. Every time he looked at her, 478 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: she had one eye click. 479 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: Right right, right, right right right. And then and Sam 480 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: Anderson comes off. He's like a doctor, and we learned 481 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: like he thought he was a doctor doing good and 482 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: then he realized he just needed he was still addicted 483 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: to just fucking cutting bodies open. 484 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, that's yeah. I love that piece of information. 485 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Me too, Me too, And Huck says something like he 486 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: was an expert at knowing how much pain someone could 487 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: take before they actually. 488 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: Die, and now he's a oofter god fuck. 489 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: And then there's a couple of other spies that Adam 490 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Lazar White who plays Paul Gray, who's like a professor 491 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: now yes, and he could speak like seventeen language languages yep. 492 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: And then the last person to walk off the OPA 493 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: elevator is our one and only Charlie And what was 494 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: his nickname? 495 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Charlie's nickname was Charles Manson. 496 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but did he have a specialty? 497 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Does it say he was amazing really great at disappearing 498 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: someone for good, like really well, which. 499 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: We saw him do in season one to Amanda Tanner. 500 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why you see the tension between Hock 501 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and Charlie in this episode is super heavy and just. 502 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: Loaded with like, did the two of you do any 503 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: actor prep work for that? 504 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: We tell no, we did not. You know, our actor 505 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: prep work was going, Hey, uh, George, I'm gonna go 506 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: to craft. Do you want to come. He was like yep, 507 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and we'd both go to Crafty and like Grey's Crafty. 508 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh look they have little pieces of cake. Oh there's 509 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: sandwiches over there. That was our fucking prep work. 510 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: You guys are And then I would join in on that. 511 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: Always you were like what do they have? We'll be 512 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: right back, guys. 513 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: Okay. Other winning moments, winning scenes of this app Okay, 514 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: Quinn gets a new office, yeah, which I love because 515 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: person moves over to Steven's office. So Quinn does the 516 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: stupid thing with her jaw and she drops another goddamn 517 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: cup of coffee because we've left the spies for just 518 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: a few minutes. While we're figuring out Olivia's out trying 519 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: to work all her contacts. The spies are all holding 520 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: each other at gunpoint, and then Harrison comes in and 521 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: have a fucking best monologue, Oh, talking them down from 522 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: shooting each other. Yes, And then he walks out and 523 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: he's like that's big office talk, baby, big office talks. 524 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: And he goes into Steven's office and then I'm like, yay, 525 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: I get my office too, and I like run out 526 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: to my own. And then we see this close up 527 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: on Harrison where actually that was impossible for him, and 528 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: it was all affront in his hand, like can't stop 529 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: shaking because he thought he was gonna get shot and 530 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: everybody was going to die. 531 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I love that. I love that. There's also 532 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: a really memorable scene in this episode is when Hawk 533 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: is fussing with the radio with an old school radio. Yeah, 534 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: and he's calling the spies through the frequences of the radio, 535 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: And I just love that so much. And you hear 536 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: in the background, you hear three blind mice playing, and 537 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: it's so ominous and dark and oh so cool. A 538 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: radio for you guys, for the younger generation, is an apparatus, 539 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: a box that we would turn on with a button. 540 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: We would plug it into the wall somewhere battery operated, 541 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: and you could hear music out of it. 542 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could like you couldn't scroll with a button. 543 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: You actually had to like turn a dial. 544 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: You had to turn a fucking dial. 545 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: To find a fucking station. 546 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: And some radios had cassette tape holders and you could 547 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: put a cassette tape and when you found your favorite station, 548 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: like Z one hundred er bls were some of my favorites, 549 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: and when they played your favorite song, you press record 550 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: and record. 551 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: That's we are such New Yorkers. Z one hundred is 552 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: what I grew up really all day, one night, Z 553 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: one Z one hundred. 554 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, man, radios. I miss radios. Does anybody have 555 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: radios anymore? 556 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're still on an iPod, honey, I'm still on 557 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: a fuck So you're like the only person I know 558 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: that doesn't have Spotify? Or do you have serious radio 559 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: in your car? 560 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: I do I have Serious in my car? 561 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: And is there a Madonna station? 562 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: No? Right, not that I know of. No, not that 563 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: I know of. 564 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: Okay, you would know. 565 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: There's an Elvis Presley station. 566 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: There is, and it's great, but there's not a Madonna 567 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: one yet. Yes, what I love the most also about 568 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: this episode, and then we can do some fun facts. 569 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: But when Abby just is crying at the end and 570 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: she leaves David and we're wrapping up the episode, and 571 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: we see that the rest of the spies are going 572 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: to go off and live happy lives because they found 573 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: the one spy that sorted out of them, the doctor 574 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: Sam Anderson. They shoot him. 575 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Has this like heart wrenching speech, not because they let's 576 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: not kill anyone. Figure out that Melvin Fee is the rat, right, 577 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: So then the others, all the Spies want to kill him. 578 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: They want to murder him. Yeah, and Huck has this 579 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: lovely speech and he's like, you know, he's one of us, 580 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: Like he's just a regular guy and he just wanted 581 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: a better life and blah blah blah, and all the 582 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Spies are like yeah, yeah, yeah, And then next thing, 583 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, two seconds later, fucking Wink shoots some dead 584 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: between the eyes and Huck is just sitting there in. 585 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: A Chuck is just sitting there like a lost like, yeah, 586 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: you were. 587 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Reformed, yeah slightly, yes, yes, slightly slightly. But that's such 588 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: a wonderful scene where they have that time lap scene 589 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: of cleaning their eyes, cleaning up, and then there's even 590 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: a moment where a Wink cleans my face and Huck 591 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: is just sitting there the whole time, just like I 592 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: can't believe this happened, Just like, you know. 593 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: Do you remember anything from shooting that? 594 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I remember it being a really really emotional, emotional 595 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: scene to shoot. It was fun. I had a blast 596 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: doing it. 597 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, I can't take the fucking sound when you do 598 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: the time lapse and the cleanup and the spies go 599 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: on to live their happy lives except for Charlie, who 600 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, he's looking to get back in business, most 601 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: likely with Cyrus. And we see David Rosen putting a 602 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: picture of James on his wall who and he's totally 603 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: ready to return back to the Cytron case without Abby. 604 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: He's going to do it alone. And Edison and Olivia 605 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: are sort of moving their relationship forward, and we end 606 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: the episode with Edison staying over to Olivia's. But the 607 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: whole time, it's my favorite song. It's broken windows and 608 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: empty hall always moings and the sky streaked with gray, 609 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: human kindness is overflowing, and I think it's gonna rain. 610 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Ah sing it, bitch, Yeah. 611 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: It's so fucking beautiful. 612 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: Wait, who sings that, Katie? 613 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: It's Nana Simone. I think it's gonna rain today. And 614 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: the lyrics are so outstanding, and the whole song is 615 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: like so beautiful and so juxtaposed to the mood of like, 616 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: it's the best fucking song choice. 617 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Scam your feels like it damn it shoves you in 618 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: your feels. K I just say, you have such a 619 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: beautiful voice. I've heard Katie saying several so many times 620 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: throughout my life. I'm very since Kat, but that was 621 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: so good man. 622 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. I love to saying and I don't get 623 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: to do it very often, but like it is one 624 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: of the first loves of my life until I realize, like, 625 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm as great as like so many people 626 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 2: at this I think I'm gonna go over here and 627 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: do acting by itself, by itself, like other fun facts 628 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: of this episode, Like I said, this is the first 629 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: fucking mention of B six thirteen. What else? What other 630 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: fun facts you got? 631 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: Another fun fact that I sort of discovered on my 632 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: own when I was looking up of guest stars on IMDb, 633 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: is that Ron Austro who was one of our stand 634 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: ins please Sarnoff in the like in the computer and 635 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: his face is blurred. Who is it ron Ostro? Remember 636 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: he he was sort of the skinny older guy. 637 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love Ron of course. Oh my god. 638 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm thinking about him in terms of he's 639 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: the best. 640 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: Yes, he's so wonderful episode. 641 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, shout out to him. What a 642 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: freaking oh my god, I haven't thought about him forever. 643 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: What a dream guy? Okay, Olivia Pope makes a reference 644 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: to Monica Lewinsky defending former President Bill Clinton when she's 645 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: talking Edison. Remember this when they're on the end of 646 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: their date at the beginning of the episode. And FYI, 647 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't fucking know this, then you're 648 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: not a real gladiator. But Judy Smith is the woman 649 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: who inspired Scandal and inspired Olivia Pope. But during the 650 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: Monica Lewinsky Bill Clinton scandal, Judy Smith actually represented Monica 651 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: check out and Monica is good friends with Shanda she 652 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: is in real life. 653 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: That's some crazy. That's crazy talk right there. Do you 654 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: have Monica Lewinsky's phone number? Tell me the truth, Katie? 655 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? Monica's ridiculously smart. Oh, and I'm 656 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: going to feel so intimidated. 657 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Didn't she write it? But she wrote a book, right? 658 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't she have her own pocketbook that she designed her 659 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: own person Yes, she has a whole amazing line. 660 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: And I want to tell the greatest Monica Lewinsky behind 661 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: the scenes story that I've ever known. But I'm gonna 662 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: wait because I Judy Smith was the one to tell 663 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: it at like a scandal thing, and I have to 664 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: wait for her to really come. Oh, I don't want 665 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: to blow it. You guys are just gonna need to 666 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: tune in. You're gonna need to keep listening to unpack 667 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: it into a box. If you want to know some 668 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: Monica Lewinsky shit, Let's look at the tweetwo three tweet 669 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: tree two three twe twee twe twe tree tree twee 670 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: twe twee twet twe tweet twet twe tweet a the 671 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: time tweet oigie boards and farts. 672 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Whitney Robinson at Whitney Race sixty six said, I'm pretty 673 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: pissed the season finale of Jersey Shore will beyond at 674 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: the same time as Scandal hashtag what to do? Really, Whitney, Really. 675 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: I feel I've watched every episode of Jersey Shore, and 676 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: I would choose Jersey Shore. 677 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: You what about both? 678 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: It's the best show in the world. Scandal me uses 679 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: too much of your brain. Jersey Shore is just like 680 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: reading garbage. It's the best. It's nothing but sheer fucking entertainment. 681 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: It's the fucking best and the worst of humankind. I 682 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: love it so much. Yes at Lori s cloud nine 683 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: tweeted on November fifth, twenty twelve, no team fits, and 684 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: she was in response to do you think Edison is 685 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: good for Olivia. Yet lots of people on the tweeter 686 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: did not want Edison and Olivia together. 687 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of tweets about Edison here, and I'm 688 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: trying to make heads and tails of them. But Veronica, 689 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: I love Casey Chiefs said Scandal ABC, right, I'm not 690 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: here for Edison. Look at me. Season one is what 691 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: hooked me as a viewer hashtag scandal. I think she's 692 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to say, don't bring no new people up in 693 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: this piece. 694 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 2: We only want Tony. 695 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: Yes it same Sador pudding pop. 696 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: Same that. I love Casey Chiefs. Actually in response to 697 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: Outlaw Josie, who at Outlaw Josie is an og gladiator 698 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: from the way back. We love you Outlaw Josie. But yeah, 699 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: she wrote did you read where Betsy Beer said Edison 700 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: is sticking around? My question is dot dot dot why why. 701 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: She don't want to have it? She don't want none? 702 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: Let's see boop here at Olivia. Twist Uh is replying 703 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: to Scandal ABC saying, ooh ohh the Dish people fixing 704 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: elections for Republicans for Republicants. How timely. I guess some 705 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: shady shit was going down in the world back then, 706 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: nothing compared to the shady ship that's going down in 707 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: our political world since then, right now, since then, Jesus. 708 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: The next episode, we have a guliermo Willie Diaz with 709 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: Charlie the spirit who follows you around. It is called Defiance. 710 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: Do you remember what the hell happened in that one? 711 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: I do not, you and I have thought it. 712 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a flashback. Though I think it's 713 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: a flashback. 714 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll find out. 715 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: This is what we could tell you. It's gonna be hilarious, 716 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome. We're gonna give you behind the 717 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: scenes scoop. We may have a guest, we may not 718 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: have a guest. Gladiators, We hope you had as good 719 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: of a time as we did. 720 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: You guys, please keep coming back and listening to unpacking 721 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: the toolbox because there's a lot of stuff in there. 722 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a lot more tools to bring out. 723 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 724 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: I'm shocked at myself that I haven't said that yet. 725 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: We have. 726 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: We're in the middle of season two and there's such 727 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: great ship coming up. And we love you, We love 728 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 2: you and yours, We love you all you Gladiators have 729 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: a wonderful week and weekend. 730 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Peace out peace. Thank you guys for joining us on 731 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox. If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, 732 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: share with your friends, rate, or leave us a review. 733 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan, 734 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. 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