1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single best idea on 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: a two hour broadcast, that's what we could do today. 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: There was so much material and the newsflow just overwhelming 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: through the Thank you to the Bloomberg News team a 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: sleepless night covering this horror in Utah. We greatly appreciate that. 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Of course, the FBI with a conference and I'm sure 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: there'll be more news through the day. The President of 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: the United States speaking on this eleventh of September at 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: the Pentagon. Go to Wikipedia and go down flight seventy 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: seven and the paragraphs of what was lost at the 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Pentagon is just heartbreaking. I think it's a lot of 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: things Americans don't know. There's New York, and there's all 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: sorts of your images of the horror in New York. 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the Pentagon was really something with 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: huge loss. At our Department of Navy, we tried to 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: prosecute a normal show on a very non normal day 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: to day. What a noninative griston distant Feld with us 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: with Alliance Bernstein, truly a giant and fixed any in 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: fixed income. He gave us his reminiscence of his eleventh 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: of September here Gristen distant Feld on the worry of 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: higher yield. 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: We've been focused so much on what the Fed's going 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: to do in the latest CPI print and stuff, and 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: we seem to have forgotten about the budget deficit and 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: what's weally going to drive the long end of the curve. 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: So I think that sometime that's going to become an 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: issue that's not going away. It's hard to talk about 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: politics in a day as as solemn as not just 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: nine eleven, but you know, the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: which probably the largest one in the past fifty years. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: It's a very solemn day to talk about things like this. 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: But you know, it's there's going to be a time 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: where we're going to have to come half to have 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: a reconing. You know, I've been on I've been on 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: record saying and you know this is not a prediction, 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: but it wouldn't shock me if we woke up two, three, 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: five years from now and we had a very normal 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: curve out to ten years, goal to ten, you would 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: have a three hand on it, and the and the 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: thirty year would be six or seven percent. I think 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: there's going to be a reckoning where especially foreigners are 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: not going to want to lend. 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Us Kristen Distanfeld. They're really hearkening back to our conversation 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: with kind of Througoff of Harvard University a number of 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: days ago. Anna Wong has been extraordinary an important essay 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: in the last seventy two hours on the revisions of jobs, saying, yes, 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: there was a recession like job economy in twenty twenty four. 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: She's more optimistic about a nascent improvement a better business cycle. 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Anna Wong on today's inflation statistics. 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Three point six percent is actually the one of the 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: highest sins for over six months now, so I think 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: the contour of three months annualized, and this is a 53 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: measure that Chris Waller has said he looks at. It's 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: basically it has troughed a couple months ago and it's 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: now on a rebound. And I think that what. 56 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: It is that the I think the rate hikes in 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: the last couple of years in the level of that 58 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: fund's right is only sufficient to bring inflation back down 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: to about two point seven or two point eight percent, 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: and thereafter it installed and it's now going right. 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Just extraordinary analysis from doctor Walrong. Let me explain three 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: months to annualized units. The biggest problem with surface analysis 63 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: within the financial media is everybody looks on the y 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: axis at price change. Far more important is what unit 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: is taken. For example, an ancient Wall Street people had 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: a real predilection to look at weekly charts and not 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: daily charts, and find value in monthly charts or units 68 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: of a longer time, even quarterly or yearly charts, just 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: to get a scope away from the day to day, 70 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: hour to hour tick of the modern Wall Street. Annualized 71 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: takes the given data over one month or typically three 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: months ninety days, and we say three months annualized, or 73 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: we say what was the change over ninety days, and 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: then we take that out and pretend it was over 75 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: twelve months. There's flaws in it, to be honest, you know, 76 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: sometime misused. But I'm sorry, I put very heavy weight 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: in the three month annualized statistic. Jason Ferman leading a 78 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: charge on this up at Harvard along with doctor Wong 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: of Chicago and Bloomberg. But the three monthly annualized statistics, 80 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them yet. On goods and services, they're 81 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: not pretty. It's a podcast on Apple, on Modify, on 82 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: YouTube podcasts. It's single best idea. 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: H m hm