WEBVTT - John. Stamos. 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.400 And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.160 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.639 Welcome to and that's where you really miss podcast. I 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.440 am Jenna, I. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.360 Am Kevin, and wow wow wow wow. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.680 Wow wow wow wowsa, it's all I can. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.720 You welcome in advance. You know, because Jenna is the 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.080 best and the most universally liked person I don't know. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.200 I don't know about that. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.480 She is able to sometimes pull guests that the rest 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.800 of us just are grateful for her. So Jenna, tell him. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.960 Who we have today, the man, the myth, the legend, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:47.000 Uncle Jesse himself, our friend, our dear dear friend, John Stamos, 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.559 Doctor Carl. He's here and I don't need to say 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.040 much more. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:01:01.360 And also because doctor Carl is currently rehearsing for a tour, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.920 we also might have a surprise guest. Oh my god 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.360 that hops in to say hey, and I will never recover. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.800 I mean, it's just too much for one fun heart. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.480 Oh he's the best of Enjoy our conversation with the loveliest, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.960 hottest John Stamos. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.119 John, Jenna, Kevin. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.480 I miss you so much, both of you, guys. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.000 I miss you so much, so much, so much for being. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.600 Here my pleasure. I miss one of you more than 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.800 the other. If you guys, you guys figured out. I'm 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.800 not saying who. We have so much to talk about, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.319 but we have so much to unpack. I mean, Glee, fine, whatever, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.440 but we we got to talk about Kevin. I'm proud 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.240 of you. You found your true thing and you're out 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.640 there fighting the good fight. And uh, I'm really uh. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.760 I've watched you and I'm just I'm a proud friend. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:50.000 You've really done fantastic. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.680 My god, John, that's so sweet. Thank you so much. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.600 Well, sure, John, form just giving us all the compliments. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:01.040 You're next, Yeah, go to Jenna out, please go keep talking. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.440 I really I was so impressed with you, and so 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.720 are you in a relationship now? 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.760 I am? I yeah. You Actually you met my first 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.160 boyfriend back in the day. You didn't probably know it 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.639 was my boyfriend because he and Noice the hell out 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.399 of me because you came to the trailer one day 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.160 and then he was like, oh my god, I love you. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.639 I grew up in Brazil and I love you since 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.320 Brazil and I it was like the first three days 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.799 of you working with us, and I was so mortified. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.120 Oh come on, well, yeah, you're like the nicest human 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.720 on the face of the planet, and of course you 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.600 would not care, but I did because I was trying 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.480 to make a good impression with the one and only 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:37.359 John Stamos. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.240 You did you remember the Living Legend? 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.440 Do you remember the first one of the first days, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.320 I was standing on my steps of the trailer and 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.960 I gathered you guys were all together for some reason. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.800 So camere, guys, I'm gonna give you one piece of advice. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:50.519 Don't ee each other. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:52.880 You don't say that too late. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.120 Yeah, that's probably what we said too late, thank for 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.799 some people. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.280 But but you two were the most welcoming to me, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.120 and we were very you know, for you folks out there, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.959 we stayed very close. We were to Disney that we 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.200 should talk about yea and what you guys were my 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.920 because it was well, I haven't listened to much of 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.040 the shows, but you no, no, it was It's great, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.760 but you're started. This is the second season, right, and 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.880 you guys were just starting to be the biggest things 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.760 on the planet. Right. Yeah, And you guys stayed level 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.280 headed for the most part. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.640 We tried, we kept each other in check and it 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.840 was very nice. You from the very beginning. I remember 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.800 we all hung out. You were very good about corraling 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.440 all of us together and hanging out in a trailer, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.480 and you were sort of without trying to hit us 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.640 over the head with like listen to me. You would 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.760 tell us these stories and about your experiences, and it 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.600 was all very very illuminating and educational because it was 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.680 as someone who had also been on like the most 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.680 gigantic TV show in the world. You had been through 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.640 this all right, Oh. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.160 Good, you know, yeah, I'm glad some of that wrote. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.760 You know. I had so many incredible mentors growing up, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.320 you know, and my first was Jack Klugman, you r, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:16.880 I don't know him, and then you know, Gary Marshall, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.159 and these guys were Don Rickles, and yeah, I was 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.760 waiting as long as I could have to pay it forward, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.719 but it certainly certainly started. Then. It was kind of 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.600 like I was like, oh, I'm old and these guys are. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.039 But you know, my startom or my success whatever was 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.640 so gradual. You guys were, oh, wait before we call it, Jenna, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.119 I'm proud of you too. Congratulations on the baby. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:39.840 Thanks so happy for you. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.880 You look you work out too much, but you look great. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.120 I mean every time she's jumping and doing and running. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.960 Right, I love I love the bouncing, thank you, thank you. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:49.719 Yeah. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.760 The last time I saw you too, it was like 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.479 you weren't married yet and your kids, so congratulations to 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.960 you as well. It's so crazy, it's been so freaking long. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.640 Tonight happens, right. I remember I was doing waitress and 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.920 you weren't married to Caitlin yet, and you had said 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.640 you were supposed to come and you couldn't, and then 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.000 she was supposed to come. You were going to send 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.159 her anyway because you love waitress and you were like, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.120 this girl, she's really special to me. I remember you 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.600 saying that, and I was like, that's really nice. I 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.160 can't wait to meet her. And then I think she 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.320 had to fly back early and she missed it and 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.520 anyway to meet her, and I still haven't met her. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.640 Oh she was there, she saw it, but yeah, I 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.680 was never I wasn't in New York or I would 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.839 have been there for sure. I never got a ship. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.279 I wasn't with her that trip, but she went and 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.280 she loved you, and and you two have stayed good 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:37.360 buddies this whole time. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:44.600 Oh yeah, yeah, we were on FaceTime last night until yeah, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.039 like we're obsessed with each other. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.240 You know, supposed to like work, if you can work 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.120 with your friends, if you could be with your friends. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.200 Like that's kind of like the thing I've learned in 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.240 this business as we've gotten olders, like just work with 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.000 the people you like and you know, be kind and 0:05:59.080 --> 0:05:59.720 yeah exactly. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.800 I mean you've done that. You've stayed so close with 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.880 so many people that you've worked with. Like you have 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.120 your people for sure, don't you. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.640 Yeah, yeah, when they don't die on me sag it. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.880 Yeah, such a kind of great guy. And like I 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.520 remember texting you during that and just not even you 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.800 don't even like there's nothing to say, but just like 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.440 we know, we knew, we understand and like like you 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.320 understood us kind of like the climb to fame, like 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.240 we understood. Yeah, and it's really hard. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.600 Yeah, you know, if we take anything away from him, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.560 and it's kind of what you're saying is like, just 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.120 enjoy every moment because it goes by. Took Bass Tomorrow 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.640 has never promised love who you love, you know, have children, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.760 get married, whatever, you know, because that's at the end 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.000 of the day, that's important. Man. Then he never left 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.320 anything on the table. He always said, I can look 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.240 at every text. I love you, I miss you, I'm 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.359 proud of you. You know, I want to see you naked. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.200 They got dirty, Yeah. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.120 Yeah, as they should. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.840 Yeah they always do. Kevin and I dirty text all 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:01.200 the time. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.120 Yeah, h who doesn't. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.480 So how did you guys so second season the beginning 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.320 of it, like you were, I mean, they weren't working 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.440 you guys to dad quite yet? Right? 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.120 Yeah, yeah, we know we were. It was definitely I 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.119 don't know what happened because between first season and second season, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:22.080 the schedule got even crazier, like you're saying, which you 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.960 would have thought we would have gotten into a rhythm, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.840 figured out how to do this, but we really didn't 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.600 yet did we, Because we added more songs I think 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.920 every episode for season two. So there therefore there was 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.640 more recording, more rehearsal, less time to do anything. And 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.200 so it was you were there as it was sort 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:45.120 of cresting into time oblivion, like we didn't really know 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.560 what was going on. You were just thrown into it 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.400 like you, poor guy. You got there and we were 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.240 like buckle up, here we go. But you rolled with 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.440 of course, constant professional rolled with everything. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.440 Well it was. It was frightening because you know, right 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.040 at that point, I was starting to become the biggest 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.400 show in the world. I've never seen a group of 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.440 people so talented in one place or one you know, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.880 you're like, oh, this one's kind of good, this one's 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.480 not so good, this one could sing. This one. You 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.160 guys did everything, and I'm you know, I am not. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.920 It took like when we had to do a hoppetuity 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.640 or whatever it was, they well, I won't talk about 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.160 that because this is funny stories around all us, but 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.080 they remember like we did it, and those two nice 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.680 choreographers were like, okay, you do this. And you guys 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.600 were fuss and fussy, won blah blah blah. Here we go, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.600 hands up, and you had it. And I was like, okay, good, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.840 let me record it. And I would rent dance studios 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:36.880 and I would stay up all night and I have 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.400 a singing teacher there and I danced and work until 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.640 six or seven in the morning. Because it took me along, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:42.920 took me a long time. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.000 To you guys were like, boom, well it's like a muscle. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.360 Though I said it looked like that, because that's not 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.679 how it always felt, and I think it was the 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.560 end verse in the very beginning when christ and Chenna 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.679 came on. She came in and was like, okay, Dad 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.000 that we showed it to her once she got it, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.760 and it took us, you know, three days to even 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.360 remotely look like we knew anything. And I remember you 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.520 coming in and being you were so open about like, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.560 you know what, I'm feeling nervous about this. I'm not 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.760 really sure if I got this? Is it okay? If 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.840 we run it again, and we're like, are you kidding me? 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.160 As many times as you need, We're happy just to 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:27.680 like hang out with you. You know, we were talking 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:32.160 about this earlier before you hopped on, because you're so talented, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.360 you're so good at so many things, and you were 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.640 coming in and even being like deferring to us like 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.880 how do I keep up with you guys? When to 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.959 us it was like you got this already, like you're 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.640 so much better than the rest of us. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.599 No, no, no, no no. I was just older this 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.280 talk at the beginning because I remember so, you know, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.080 I knew Ryan, you know the way before. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:55.440 How did this happen? 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.320 Well, I'm writing, I'm writing this book, and I never 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.080 thought i'd write it, but ever and a millionaires and 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.880 so some of this is in there, and the publishers 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.600 are don't say this, don't say that. But I think 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.000 I've talked about this. But Ryan, you know, I had 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.560 a deal with Warner Brothers and Philosophers sometime in the nineties, yeah, 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.080 mid nineties or something. And Ryan had what was his 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.439 very first show, Warner Brothers. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.319 A Popular I think that's what it was. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.000 Yeah, And you know, when you get these development deals, 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.080 if you're lucky to you know that, you sit back 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.319 and go, okay, bring them on. And pitched me some 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.040 shows that I might do, you know. And Ryan was 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.880 had a deal there at Warner Brothers, and so they said, oh, 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.959 you got to meet this new young guy. Ryan Murphy said, okay, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.800 what's he done? Popular? What's you know? Okay, I got 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.240 a free Lune shout, but I thought. We went to 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:42.920 the ivy and and so sitting there, he comes in, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:48.320 very very nice and he says, so we order and said, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.440 what's the show? And he says, well, you you play 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.920 a male hooker, and your the wife and the husband, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.080 and you're kind of a therapist, but you're a hooker 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.200 and you have a really cute black guy and a 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.560 really cute blonde guy. You kind of like char these angels, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.360 but you're hookers, sertain like Charlie's hookers. And I spit 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.760 out my twenty seven dollars iced tea and the appetizers 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.719 were just sitting on the table. I go, oh my, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.400 I got a shit with this guy for another forty 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:17.080 Charl's bookers. And uh. And that was when we first met. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.839 And of course I should have done that show. It 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.080 would have been genius of me, because all I did 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:23.839 was complain about, oh, I got to get rid of 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.959 his uncle Jesse thing, I got to do some real work. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.400 And here comes, you know, the the genius on a 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.520 white horse, saying, here's what here, you want to get 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.280 rid of Koksesse? You play a hooker. But then and 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.400 then years later, then years later he came to me 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.640 with they offered me nip tuck and I should have 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.640 done that one too, right, So he thinks, man, huh 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.720 he was, but he you know, he is, no, he's been. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.000 Look if if I I probably should dedicate some of 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.839 the book did because he's spent so good to me, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.079 you know, just one show after another. But then finally 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.360 then League came along and I remember we went to 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.360 at that point we were he was that night we 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.040 went to the what's it called the chatel Yeah, in 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.880 the chateau, and you know he's running the place, right 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.760 and I remember I had this really cool leather braced 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:18.319 uh uh yeah, and he kept looking at it. I said, here, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:19.760 take it. No, I don't have to take it, and 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.920 he gave it to him and said, we're doing I 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.800 want you to come on. I want you to play 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.840 the Frankenfurther Park because we're doing a rocky horror picture show. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.280 And I said I'm in sign me up. I mean, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.439 I would done anything, but I got really excited about it, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.880 so I said, okay, great, great, so and then what 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.200 are we going to play? Dentists? 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.640 And I loved it. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.319 And when we got closer to that show, I think 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.640 he directed the first episode I was in right. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.600 Where yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.240 Right, and that was increased. You know, I don't think. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.400 I guess that was the first time he directed me 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.960 in something and talk about the also the greatest director, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.720 like dude, he smut. You know he had just cut 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.320 I think I think what was James Franco and uh 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.880 was it? Pray Love was that was that? And Ryan 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.520 directed it right, and and I said, why was he 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.480 smiling so much in that movie? Like Frank, like he 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.760 would just smuck, and so he was. Ryan wanted me 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.880 to smile. So in those scenes were going give me Franco, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.520 give me half Franco full. I remember that. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.080 But so fair, buddy, so. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.720 So because he you know, he wrote probably wrote that 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.560 episode of you know right thing back then, and so 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.440 he was kind of like say what you want or 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:36.560 throwing lines at you. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.360 Yes, the only time that we could do that was 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.040 when Ryan was in the director's chair, that we were 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.120 able to like go off off the cuff or like 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:44.960 off the page. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.880 So fun. I was so frank. I am so grateful 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.840 to him. I mean then I assure you guys too. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.000 I mean, but did you ever think, like, like to 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.960 just watch it. I mean, I guess we knew he 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.760 was going to be the biggest thing on the planet 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.800 in television and movies, but just to watch him think. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.120 Right, I remember I was you could see it. I 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.160 always say that you could. The wheels were like fully, 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.800 it was like they were on the outside of his head, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:09.880 like yeah. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.440 Right right, right right, yeah. And I remember what time. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.920 I think it was maybe even I was then I 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.480 was on the New Normal? Was that after that? I think, so, yeah, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.480 that was really fun. Sweet for him to put me 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:21.800 on there and then and then. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.240 Screaming, but you had like a huge part of it's 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:25.760 really fun. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.720 That was fun. But on I was I went in 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.560 his office and I think it was like Glee was 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.440 still going on New Normal and maybe another show, and 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.480 all the writers from all the shows were around, and 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.000 he was sitting at his desk. He was like, by 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.280 up to that show, that show, but three shows but 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.000 stories out because I'm. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.960 Like, wow, so you know that is something we happen 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.920 to talk because once he the Ryan Murphy empire was 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.840 growing in the early stages of Glee with Horror Story 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.600 and then like New Normal, and it kept going and 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.280 so he kept getting more offices on the Paramount lot. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160 I would see him sometimes. I would go in there 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.280 at lunch and just hang out with like some of 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.760 our friends and they were assistants, you know, to writers 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.000 and producers and things, and he'd walk in and do 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.120 exactly that. He'd be like, Okay, here are my notes 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.040 and just like shout it to the wind, and then 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.640 everyone would sort of like go off and do their 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.360 sort of due diligence of relaying everything and keep coming 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.240 with like casting choices. I remember him throwing out names 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.720 and people were like what, like did you know that 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.480 was happening? Like no, and then they would have to 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.960 like find these people and you know, make calls and things. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.240 It was fascinating to see, and I think you're right 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.800 that like we didn't necessarily know we were with him 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.280 all the time. It was fascinating and like great to 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.520 when he was directing and get to work with him 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.560 every day like that. But also you can't really feel 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.240 the empire sort of growing, you know, him making those 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.360 other deals like oh, I'm doing horror story now too. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.600 We're like cool, and we're so concerned with you know, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.560 five six, seven eight whatever. We're yeah, going to a 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.360 d that day, and so it was happening concurrently and 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.080 we sort of didn't really I think, grasp that. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.680 Right right right as you're in it. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.760 Well that's what he said on the pot when he 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.160 came on the podcast, He's like, you you know, like 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.640 on one end, he didn't really know what was going 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.880 on with us, which he says he wished he had 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.560 taken more of a like, you know, more of a 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.720 role in that. But he was off doing horror story 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.480 and had other things that he had to produce and 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.160 you know, create for his deal with Fox, and like 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.840 we didn't also see We thought like it was just 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.000 the abandoned dad who laughed, and he was actually like, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.240 I just didn't know how to manage all of this, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.280 like manage a massive empire of people. So it was 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.040 really interesting to hear and then to see you know, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.160 you say that you were kind of like watching You've 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.840 witnessed a little bit of it too. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:55.280 Yeah, Jama Mays is like the best, the best, most 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.760 presented person. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.240 Ever, so funny and so great to work with and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.880 getting to pair the two of you together is like 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.840 a dream come true? As just a fan, how was 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.440 it when you came in you got to be that 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.200 little wrench that you get to be the love triangle, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.720 you know, the third part of that love triangle? 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.159 How was that getting to you know, work with Jaima 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.280 and mess with Matt and all of that. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.800 What Jama was I was gonna do a joke about 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:33.120 three Soldi Relationshiship, but Jama was she was like Annie right, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:33.880 like those big guys. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.760 Hi, you know it's great. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.600 And uh and and you kind of wait for is 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.760 that that that that veneer to kind of drop? But 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.080 I don't think it ever did like that all the time. Yeah, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:48.960 she was wonderful, and you know I have to do 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.280 Uh did I know anybody else on there? You got 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.800 that I knew, Yes, I knew Matt a little bit. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:56.040 Yeah. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.920 I don't know why he I don't know if he 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.400 was so happy I was on were friends. I don't 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.840 know what happened, you know. Interesting, Yes, I came in 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.119 doing that thing and the dentist was a blast, you know, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.320 because it was the Britney Spirits thing and they were. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.000 A crazy episode for you to come in on too. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:17.720 Yeah, and I remember Ryan said, Ryan said, hello, thank you. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.680 We're the only boys around here in the dress of 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.400 old You guys never all finished that. Well, you guys 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.280 never came to a Beach Boys show, right, did you guys? Ever? 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:28.840 Come now we're. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.360 Playing We're playing at the Hollywood Bowl the second, third 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:32.919 and fourth I think it is. If you guys are 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:39.840 around July, come be my guest. Absolutely es yes, fireworks orchestra, Oh, 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.280 we're coming, We're there. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.840 You know, we every day I played Emma one song 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.359 before she was born, just so that like when she 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.200 came out of the room, I would wanted to see 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.320 if it would calm her, if she like recognized it, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.760 and I played her God only knows every single day 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.720 of my pregnancy beautiful. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.880 Yeah, some of the greatest songs of all time. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.560 I think it's a perfect song. Very few songs are perfect, 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.840 like something that the Beatles are perfect. But I was 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.119 just writing about this because I was It was my 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.360 first wedding. It was the first dance and the rest 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.080 of the band was there, but Carl Wilson, who sang it, 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.679 passed away just like a couple of months earlier. But 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.800 it's the lyrics are a little harsher than they I mean, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:18.640 if you really. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:23.920 Listen to I don't know, I always, I may I 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.200 always love you? 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.199 What kind of love song is that I may not 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:28.760 always love you? 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.920 The first well, it's like you're saying everybody you take 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:41.760 stink and they're like that's actually like kind of sockery, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.000 and they're like I'll be watching you and they're like, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:45.639 good luck on that one. Because it's a lot of 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:51.880 people's first wedding songs anyway. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.840 Knows brief. So it's talking about Ryan, thinking, how. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.000 Did we jame Matt Matt James. 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.640 Yeah, I wasn't sure about because the dentist, and yeah, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.119 it was crazy. And I remember Ryan like threw me 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:03.600 into a dance number at the last mine. He goes 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.280 go slick your hair back, like grease it back, and 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.720 you know, look, okay, oh yeah, well actually that was 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.840 either my first day or second day. But I was 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.800 sitting in a bar like a lounge chair, and I 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:13.240 was dancing. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.720 There was a litter dance around. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.080 Not dancing, grinding, and you know, I'm like, this is 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:23.399 gonna be a great job, so funny. But you guys 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.960 were so kind. And then I think, I look back 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.840 and I go because because everybody kind of was really 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.600 sweet in the beginning, they went their own ways. They 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.240 were starting you guys were. But then but I really 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.359 realized that I couldn't imagine what was going through your 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.040 heads during that time. You know, just you had to 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.400 just be thinking all the time about what's next, where 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.879 we go, sleep, we do the right thing, you get people. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.080 Yeah, it was hard. It was it was like they 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.120 worked you. They worked us to the bone. And then 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.360 on the weekends, you had like press and you had 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.280 all of these things to do, and so there was 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.359 just no break from each other or from the show, 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.160 like no breathing room to like sit back and look 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.560 back at what we were doing. And during the time, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.840 there's no like reflection time. It was just like you're 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.000 almost suffocated by it in many ways, at least that's 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:06.600 how I felt. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.600 But at the same time it was and I'm not 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.359 saying this just to like be sweet to you, but 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.760 at the same time, then our job was to like 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.720 show up and get to work with people like you. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:18.440 Yeah, like, yeah, yeah. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.879 It was very odd that people that we looked up 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.800 to wanted to be on a show that we were. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.520 You know it still even though the show is becoming big, 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:30.720 like you know how that like you're not al of 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.359 a sudden a different person, right right, all of a sudden, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.159 you have all of these people that you love that 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.080 are coming to work at your place of work, and 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.200 like you turning to us being like is this right? 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:44.280 Am I doing this thing? 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:44.600 Right? 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:44.680 You? 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:44.920 Really? 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:45.160 Well? 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.919 Speaking of we talked about this on the podcast By 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.840 the Way, John. The time that you your friend Jeff 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.160 decided that he was going to screen your first episode. 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:55.919 And so we watched Britney Brittany with you, right, your 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.480 first episode of the show at Jeff's house, and you 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.040 forgot to tell us that it was with your cast. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.480 So like we showed up and we didn't know where 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.840 we were going or like yeah, and we're like I'm like, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.359 I'm sitting with the whole Tanner family. Like nobody told 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.760 us John didn't, you know, like buried the lead. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.919 As we show up, it's like whose house it was? 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.600 It was those are your friends? I get it, but 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.679 it was just funny. 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.359 Jenna and I were sitting there like what's going on? 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.399 I remember, but I think I was closest to the 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.040 two of you, right, I don't even hang out with 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.960 anyone that much, because yeah, but so remember so I 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:33.679 did that and then so the whole lure was this 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.720 rocky horror picture showing to do how to do? You know? 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.040 And I was like, oh, I could wait, and this 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.200 is the way I thought of it, or I heard. 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.480 Why I ended up not doing it was that because 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.639 I remember because it was lou right, I worked with 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:47.320 her later. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:48.920 To the wardrobe. 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.760 She they made me this boostier like you know that 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:55.720 and it was like and I said oh man, I 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.399 wanted to do that. I remember. I remember sitting at 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.480 at the chateau of Ryan goes, well, now your whole 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.359 stomach's gonna be exposed, said, I've been working out a 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.680 look a look in the chateau. Point my shirt look 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.560 a little bit right. Yeah, don't don't eat those fries. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:08.399 You know. 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.399 So then I remember I did the fitting for it. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.320 They took a bunch of pictures and what I heard 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.120 and I could you know this is what I could 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.440 be wrong? Was the network saw it in the studio? 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.120 Whatever they said, you got one straight guy on the show. 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.920 Keep him out of you know, women's. 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.000 God, Oh my god. 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.159 And I was so And then I think Lou call 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.040 me or somebody said, which anyway, that's that's and then 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.399 I was shifted over to to do the Eddie character. 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:37.879 What do you guys know? 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:38.359 What do you know? 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.919 I remember you coming to us because and and you 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.479 you very much got how we all worked, because we 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.240 all had a piece together, like intel from different departments 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.520 that we all collected. So you would come to us 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.320 be like, so here's what I heard. Is this? I 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.000 wanted to do that. I was ready to do it. 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.840 I don't know let's see what we can find out. 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.080 Right right, No, I don't think we ever got the 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.000 real intel, like why. 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.320 That is what we heard as well? Yeah, and then Amber, 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.040 I think then got that. Did you ever record the 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:10.800 song or anything? 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:12.720 Well? I think I did. 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:13.320 I think you. 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.280 Guys want to hear another piece of you know who 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.080 who I bought my house from that I live in 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.640 now who Adam Anders? 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:27.000 Oh wait, so you moved Yeah, yes, that's an amazing house. 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.639 By the way, it was until we moved in, you know. 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.479 But he's that recording studio in there. 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:33.119 Do you remember did you. 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.840 Guys ever record there? 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:40.600 But some of the I think some of the bundackground, Yeah, I. 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.400 Don't, yeah, but I don't. It might have been later 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:48.159 Darren recorded as Christmas record there recorded there anyway. So 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.560 when I went into singing Hopportunity, I was like, I 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.320 can't sing it, you know, this is too high, and 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:59.280 they go, no, it'll be fine. Is it quite try Opportunity? 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.520 Oh god, okay, thanks, we got it. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.679 Well, you know that means to us they can make 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:07.280 anything work. 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:09.800 Well me too, man, That's what I was that and 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.119 that's what I fell in love with Auto Tune. And 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.080 she's my mistress. But then we have to go on 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.399 on Broadway and sing live, and it's like, come. 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.480 On right, yeah, it ruins you. You go into that 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.840 studio and like sing remotely close to the note and 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.800 then they can melody in it to be correct. 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.280 I on the in New York, on the Baraba shows, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.800 I was just put so much vibrato on it, and 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.000 eventually I would hit the. 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.760 Exactly remind me, which shows you that you've done I 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.800 saw you in nine, a really long time ago. 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.159 I was terrible around you. 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.120 You were fantastic in that. 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.080 That was one of my great failures. But I'll tell 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:47.600 you a story about it. 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.240 But I loved you in that show. 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.720 I grew up. My parents were the type that said, 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:54.399 if you want to do something, to do it. I 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.679 don't know how your parents were with that, but it 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.240 was like, don't put obstacles in the way. I can't 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:00.639 do this. I can't I don't have an age and 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.240 I don't have and I never did. I just would go. 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.440 And when I finished, I work with Jack clubbing before 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.120 full House, and then when I was done with Fuss, 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.200 I was like, what do I do? Jack? My careers 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.240 like Uncle Jesse get to the theater coders here, I 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.480 said an old saying, I don't dance, it doesn't matter. 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.840 And I got a call around the time to replace 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.760 Matthew Broderick and have to succeed in business. And my 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.400 agent was like, you think you can? I go, yeah, 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.200 me time, give me the material. And I practiced and 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.919 I all night, all day song Dan went in an 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.920 audition board and got it. So that was my first one. 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.399 I just did. And you look back at stuff and 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.439 where did I get the balls to do that? 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.200 What is the what's that for you? Because I struggle 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.360 with that myself. Where Like people are always like do theater, 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.879 I'm like, it's not something I've ever seems terrifying to 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.399 me because it is so the opposite. I feel like 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.439 of what I get used to Like you. 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.800 No, Well, luckily I was coming from you know, sitcoms, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.320 which are kind of you know, there's a live audience 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.159 when you can stop and start. I think it was 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.040 about Jack's you know the best company game is like 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:03.760 you were holding, you held the stage, you got to 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.480 you know all this. So I was I been playing 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.199 with the beach pers since eighty five, and you know, 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.880 sometimes you'll pull up to a gig and it would 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.080 be like a hundred thousand people, you know, or more 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.680 so you have to So some of that was helpful. 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.680 It you know, it's just it was, but it was nothing. 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.440 I never thought I don't want to be on Broadway 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.239 one day and I'm a singer. I never I'm a 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.840 terrible I never liked singing. And then working with the 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.200 Beach Boys, you think like, oh, you really must learn 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.720 a lot. No, I get, you know, I don't sing around. 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:33.919 I mean I do sing with them a little bit, 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.439 but they were so great. So that but nine was this. 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.080 Then I did a cabaret and that was the best 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:43.120 thing in my life. I just again, I don't know how. 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.920 I was sitting there going like why did I say? Yes? 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.600 What am I doing? And then and then we just 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.560 I just you just have to let go fully, just 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.199 you know. And then then I did nine. But and 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.320 they called this said you want to I wasn't working. 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.520 Do you want to go back to do you want 0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.000 to go to back to cabaret? Or do you want 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.760 to do nine? And I'd seen I seen nine of 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.160 the previews because we knew Antonio and and it wasn't 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:10.000 great and he wasn't great and you know, and so 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.960 I thought, I'll go do that because it's new, I 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.840 should stretch. And then by the time I went there 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.000 was like a year later, and I said yes to it, 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.640 and I went to see Antonio and he blew the 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:22.920 roof off the place. He was incredible. 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:23.199 You know. 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.080 I was a previews and I go, what am I doing? 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.359 I mean, you couldn't get tick And his wife was 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.320 across the street and Melli Griffith do in Chicago, and 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.840 the streets were packed. And then I remember driving up 0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.400 with this with this limbo driver and I said, what's 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.120 going on? Here is the president? I said, oh, no, 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.440 it's Antonio's last talking about Antonio like it was a creamy, rich, 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:47.240 stupid look. Oh it's Antonio's last night, and I feel 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.040 sorry for whoever's gonna have to replace him. Yeah, it 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.239 was like that. So it was tough. I mean it 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.000 was you know, it was three hours of singing and. 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.080 It's a hard show. Definitely, But I thought you did great. 0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:58.720 I really did. 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.920 I really enjoyed you and I and then I got 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:01.920 to see you and Birdie too. 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:03.760 That was another not good one. 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:09.200 Well, the production was definitely a challenge, for sure. 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:10.960 You know, you go into these things and you go, 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.400 I don't go do my best, and then you can't control. 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.400 You know, that's all you can do. That's broad glea. 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.640 So wait, what else did we do on there? We did? 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:19.440 I did that? 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.520 And then what else did you do on this? 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.920 I was having a great time, but then all of 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.720 a sudden, you know, like I was already got I 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:27.320 don't know. 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.160 Who this time. 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.520 No, that's what happened. Storylines go, and you know, the 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.400 of course like Emma and Will have their whole storyline 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.000 so inevitably, like it's. 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.640 Like a different shiny object appears in the distance, like, oh, 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.720 what's that? Let me that's follow that? 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.880 You know you said it. But then he but then 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.520 he came back and then he'd come back around with 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.440 you know, with new normal. 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.200 Like I remember he likes his people. 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:52.920 Yeah, he likes his people for sure. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.520 Yeah, and then you just kind of and sometimes you 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.760 just have to get in front of his face and 0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.760 you know, and then he remembers. Somebody is saying, but 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.560 do you guys he was on your he was on 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:03.400 the podcast. 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.000 So yeah, he's coming. 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.600 A couple of times he never really talked about the show, 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.840 and I think this was like a really safe outlet 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.880 for him to like talk about the show, and he said, 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.280 he said the tone for us, which was really great, 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.000 And we say that a lot like he really opened 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.040 the doors to make these conversations acceptable because he kind 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.160 of he did it. So, yeah, we've seen him and 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:26.840 we're you know, I think we've a lot of us 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.320 have like healed our relationships with him and the experience 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.680 of the show and you know, all like the things 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.720 that we were went on said like kind of after 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.640 and I have passed away, to be honest, and so 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.280 it was actually really healing. 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.880 Was it on a zoom? Were you guys on a zoom? 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:42.920 And after. 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:48.760 He started he started sort of calling us. He from 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.640 like the very first moment of her having gone missing. 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.360 He got in touch with us, He got in touch 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.320 with us, and it sort of became I think we 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:04.680 were also amped up emotionally that we were just sort 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.520 of like gloves off, we're not you know, you know Ryan, 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.320 he's intimidating and now he's like the biggest, you know, 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.120 showrunner in the world, and so I think we had 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.720 all just sort of been like whatever, like we've just 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:24.560 lost another friend. Like you you don't really intimidate us anymore. 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.080 You don't scare us. And that's what he was saying 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.080 to us too. He's like, he's like, nobody has anything 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.320 to lose by like opening up and being honest with me. 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.840 And I think when you were the raw emotionally, you 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.640 have to just get it all out. And luckily there's 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.800 someone on the other end of the line who's open 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.640 to receiving that and hearing it and accepting all of that. 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.920 And that was sort of what was happening. And I 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.960 don't know, it was weird that it happened during then, 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.520 you know, during that time, but it just did. And yeah, 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.400 and it felt good. We all had conversations with each 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.640 other amongst ourselves additions to just him, and it. 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.959 Was it was it was it one on one. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.800 You're saying like it was one on one. 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:04.080 Yeah. 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:04.280 Yeah. 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.680 He would call and talk to people and like we 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.600 really done. A lot of us hadn't spoken to him 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.000 in a really long time, so it was really nice 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.440 to like, and I think a lot of us were 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.040 waiting for him to open the door, to be honest, 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.120 and I think he was kind of not really privy 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.720 to it, not really understanding like some of the pain 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.960 that we had felt and were like holding on to. 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.840 So that's good to hear. So so you guys, when 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.840 I was the second year, everything just kind of slid it. 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.680 What did it? Well? Then Corey died? Right when did 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:31.960 he die? 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.280 The season four before? 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.040 Right before season four? Then you came back after that though, 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:43.200 didn't you? Were you up until the tail before he 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.040 just passed away? 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:45.640 It was before? 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.400 It was right before because did. 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.240 He pass away? He passed away during the hiatus right. 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.320 Yeah, between three and four, and we pushed for season 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.280 four like two weeks or three weeks into we were 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.080 supposed to start, like it happened like right before we 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.880 were supposed to start. 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.600 How was Ryan then? Was he arounded the corona? 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.120 That was a very complicated Yeah. 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.920 Well, he also said on the podcast too, like he 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.520 he like he felt like a lot of responsibility that 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.000 he didn't know how to handle it. But he I 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.880 think he felt very deeply when Corey passed away, and 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.440 sure that was really hard for him, and so I 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.600 think he kind of like everybody like just went inward 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.200 like we went away right, And he said he would 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.520 have stopped the show at the point when Corey passed away, 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.800 had we all done it again. And we and we 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.720 I mean me as a collective. I felt like the 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.000 show died when Corey died. 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.120 Yeah, and did I mean we could feel that. And 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.800 it was like a lot of people when you are 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.040 going back to the same places every single day and 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:53.920 are constantly reminded of this gigantic personality, you know that 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.600 you that you shared all of those experiences with in 0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:00.560 those places, regardless if it was us, any of the cast, 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.240 the writers, all of those buildings and rooms were filled 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.880 with him, and so yeah, it's sort of you're re 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.520 immersing yourself in this like for lack of a better word, 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.440 trauma of constant being reminded of this person that is 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:15.120 no longer there. 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.920 Well, they had a memorial in the auditorium where our 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.480 stage was, and that was really hard for me personally, 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.200 Like we had that memorial and then we just had 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.400 to go back to like being there and being okay 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.320 with it, and that was really hard and weird. 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.080 There was only a handful of you that people that 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:39.000 like tanity, that knew what you guys went through, right, 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.360 no one else on the planet. And then you lost 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.840 one of your soldiers then and was Leah was She's 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.440 dating him when were they and so that affected her 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:49.759 and then. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:55.799 Oh yeah, yeah, you had been part of a cast, 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.799 a young cast, and a cast that became really successful. 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.480 Like like what did that mean to you to like 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.239 we all had each other right to lean on through 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.799 thick and thin, the good and the bad, and that 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.920 has to this day. I think why we are all 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:13.680 still so close and like from your experience, has that 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.439 been the case for you guys? Like is that why 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.680 you've all been you know, you're still friends, still close. 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:20.360 And with the full house? 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.720 Yeah, like you've been through this such a specific time 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.440 and experience together that like who else is able to 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:32.520 relate to that other than and then yeah, we still 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.000 might have that ahead of us. 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.319 Yeah, did you guys? Are we talking about this ship 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.239 the Glee coming back? I think there was moments there there. 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.560 I mean, I don't know, let's announce it today. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:44.880 I don't care if it's happening or not. 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:47.200 Carls back. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.719 Yeah, Well, I just love how like you were like, 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.640 let's fire the Olsen Twins. That that was like my 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.799 news like in my news speed the other day, I 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:56.800 was I was giggling. 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.279 I've said that over the years, a couple of times 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.520 nobody ever paid attention. But for some reason this time 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.239 we were we were abnormal. It still are. I mean, 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.880 we were too close. It was just a weird thing. 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.560 And it wasn't because you know, the full House was 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.880 successful what not the first year or two, but it 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.959 wasn't like you guys, wasn't a meteorite rise. And then 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.000 you know, every year since the show's been off, it's 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.640 it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger. I never thought 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:26.319 I thought we all done, it was gonna be done. 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:27.759 I never thought I'd have to think about it again. 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.480 But we just we just clicked. Bob and I hated 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.239 each other at the beginning. We didn't get along at 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.680 allow a good amount of time. We didn't hate each other, 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.239 but he was His process was so different than mine. 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.120 I came, you know, as an actor, so I wanted 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.200 to make the scenes better and work on the you know, 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.279 the motion of the show. And he just wanted to 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.839 do dirty jokes and make the guy pulling the cable laugh. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.240 I put that into the show and it was fun 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.400 for a while, but it was also very just distracting, 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.560 and it was disruptive to everyone else's process. We eventually, 0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.680 you know, obviously we worked it out, but we didn't 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.440 really I'm close, until after the show was done, and 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.840 he was very instrumental in keeping us all together. You know, 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.680 he was excuse me, the twins moved to New York 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.520 and bought me. I think they owned New York now literally, 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.560 And you know, I got to tell you too, that 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.640 the one of the only good things to come out 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.080 of Bob Well did make it Ashley, and we hadn't 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.960 really seen him much. I mean, we stay in touch 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.319 with a little bit, but Bob really did. And they 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.120 were so great and they just said all the things 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.920 again like probably what you guys got to hear, Like, 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.640 you know, it was we loved it because you'd hear 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.239 rulers or you'd say, well they hated their child, they 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.239 hated being on the show or whatever, and were just 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.440 like okay. And then when I did Fuller House, they 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.160 didn't want to come back, and I was angry for 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.640 a minute, and you know that got out and so 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.200 we never really but they were they just we love you, 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.239 we loved our childhood, We love being with you. We 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.480 missed Bob. They came out of my house, they came 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.080 to my house and they brought a pork chop and sage. 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.319 I don't know why, but thank you. 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.920 That sounds good. That sounds like on brand. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.799 Those parts, the frozen pork chopping. So that was really nice. 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:07.000 And so we stayed. We stayed very close. But but 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.400 you guys, I think it was a little different because 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.840 you were all pretty much unknown and then the biggest 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:23.919 stars in the world. Now, let's talk about our trip 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:24.320 to Disney. 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:32.920 Do you remember, yes, of course, you relationship with Disney. 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:39.320 You're a Disney, Disney number one fan, you are Disney. 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.920 Well, yeah, you know what. I wanted to shake that 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.200 before I met my wife, but she worse. She's worse 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.759 than me. And even before that, I was like, i 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.040 gotta drop this Disney stuff. And I'm trying to be 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.040 a serious actor. I'm trying to think. And I was 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.160 out to dinner with some people and Ryank Gostlin was there. 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.359 I was sitting next to me and he's like, uh, 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.480 you're a big Disney guy, right, I go, yeah, I enough, 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.680 I goes, I love it. I go all the time. 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.759 I got mixtapes for each ride, and I walked and 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.480 sometimes I go high. I did it. I go really yeah. 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.239 So that's was like, okay, I can Yeah, I'm a 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:15.560 Disney again. It didn't hurt his career. And my wife 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.040 was so into it. I was like, okay, I was. 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.160 Out, You're back in now. 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.320 But we were planning, we planned it, and then I 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.160 think Chris was going to go with us, right Andy, 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:26.440 and it was it was raining. 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.520 Well, no, we didn't plan we didn't plan that, but 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.400 we're like, we're still going one day it rained. 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.840 Right, that's right. I mean it was touring. But it 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:35.720 was so fun. 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.960 Wasn't it so much fun? So great because it was 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.000 it was a bit of a ship show in the 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.759 weather department, but that made it so memorable and I 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.359 just couldn't believe that. Yeah, you took us all around. 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.960 It was incredible, so much fun. I remember it was 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.799 kind of like quiet too because there was so much rain, 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.239 so like it wasn't as busy as it normally would be, 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:55.080 which is nice. 0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.360 I have really cute pictures of us and rain gears. 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.480 Do you guys have this pictures? 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:02.879 Somebody sent me those. 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:03.439 I have them. 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:09.080 We got we got our pickles. Oh, wasn't it I doubt. 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.920 Wasn't it one of the guys in Bye Bye Bertie? 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.080 But were you Kevin? Were you out then? 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.759 I mean not like publicly, but you know to like 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:23.560 our co workers and friends. 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.239 Yes, do you remember what year that was, Kevin? It 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.359 must have been twelve eleven or twelve. 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:30.800 Eleven or twelve. 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:32.359 Yeah, all right, I'll look for him. 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.480 I have pictures, but you out. I don't think I did. 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.840 I probably not. I probably hadn't. 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.040 No, but you remember the little guy who came with 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.520 us from from by by Bertie. 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.200 I'm trying there who was with us? 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.279 And I thought maybe you guys Marco? 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.520 Didn't Marco come? Marco my boyfriend at the time, Yeah. 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.279 He did know, but there's somebody else that came with us, 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.000 and I'm trying to remember who it was. It was 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:54.520 my friend. 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.719 I had to come to Jesus with Marco before. I 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.600 was like, look, you need to bring it in. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:00.640 If you're going to come to Disneyland. 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:07.760 We are not friends with Stas play it cools. 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:10.279 Who just shut up? That's my club? Right? 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:12.040 How's it going? 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.759 This is the guy that wrote all the music, he 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.080 didn't write he knows, we just about knows. This is 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.000 the great Mike Cloud. 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.520 How's it going? Nice to meet you. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:21.719 It's so nice to meet you. 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.640 Oh, it's nice to meet you. 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:24.840 It's honor. 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:29.400 These are our gleek They're on Glee when I was 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.400 on there. He doesn't joke. Everything he doesn't joke. Sometimes 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.680 we do Surfer Girl and I said, Mike dedicates all 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.759 the ladies in the audience, and he says, okay, all 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.640 the ladies from John the beverage screams, I said, and 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.160 a couple of the guys too, And he said that 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:41.680 a couple of. 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.840 So did a couple of episodes of Glee. 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:53.120 Dude, that sounds about right, fair enough, fair. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:59.839 Yeah, he wrote, he wrote, I get around, fun, fun, fun. 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.440 Yeah. These songs nobody's ever heard of. 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.960 I'm a big I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.080 Coca crazy. 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:08.520 Wow. 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.200 It is an honor to meet you. You are absolute legend. Yes, 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:19.040 well that makes no no more talented than the rest 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.000 of us all combines. 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:24.759 Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the mount rushmore of rock. 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.600 Shouldn't. He's one of the greatest. Is this bad? 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:30.279 He's very boy. 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.640 I've been hanging around him since eight nineteen eighty five. 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.360 He was Blacky on General Hospital. 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.960 The first show was the first show he invited me 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.000 to sort of play a bunch of the show was 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.600 in Washington, DC at eighty five for a. 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.359 Million, well three quarters of million. 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:50.520 Yeah, but in Philadelphia, And. 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:59.640 That's cool, that's wild, absolutely insane, that's this history. 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.040 Yeah, I mean, how did that happen? 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.680 You should have seen the line of the bathroom. 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.200 People were probably just going where they could. 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:14.279 Is he's responsibly they weren't the pins. He's responsible for 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:18.360 some of the most optimistic, beautiful music that you know, 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.560 when they wrote it the sixties was powerful and a 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.239 mental wouldn't be nice. But now when I play with 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.239 them and I see these audience, they just they're just 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.879 you know, d C is at an all time low 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.480 and discord at an all time high. But I thank 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.200 god we have the Beach Boys music to get us through. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:33.400 Truly very true. 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.239 I need it so bad. Wouldn't it be nice? Optimism? Positivity? 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.319 There's not a lot of hit songs that are optimistic 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.239 like that. Yeah, and through the test of time, Like, 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.120 there's a reason why those songs are still gigantic today 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.359 because people need them. That's part of the public consciousness 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:51.320 now is those songs. 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.960 Researcher in Sheffield, England that went through hundreds of songs 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.359 and they said the Good Vibrations came in number one 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.000 for making people feel good. 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.640 Wow, appropriately, wasn't it. 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.640 Yeah right, Oh, I listened to your music on the regular, 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.120 just so you know. I'm sure you heard that a lot. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:14.600 But daughter was pregnant. She played Gary Nose every day. Yeah, 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.000 that lyric was maybe. I mean, I always love it 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.040 is not a good first line from nor. 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:28.680 I didn't write that bar and people use it their wedding, so. 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.640 I know we were just talking about that their divorce. 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:37.320 I guess. 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.680 We did. That was our first dance, my first thing. 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:47.160 Oh my, that's great. That's so great. Oh my goodness. 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.120 Well, it's nice to meet you all. 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.320 And I will butt out you're good. We're going to 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:54.600 come see you at the ball. 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.120 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.319 Yeah, that's great. That's great. 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.359 Nice, that's right. 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.480 Monday and Tuesday I. 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.839 Will be front row. I'll have your name written on 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.759 my chest, you know, I'll be that guy. Nice to 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.399 meet you, Mike. 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.759 I wow, I told you guys this book. If you 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.160 would have told me, it's called if you would have 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.520 told them, if you would have told me. My first concert, 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:25.600 I went to the Beach at the Universal Theaters thirteen fourteen, 0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.200 told me that, you know, I'd be here playing with 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.480 them four weeks later. I don't know about you, guys, 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.440 but I've just turned into pure gratitude and grace. At 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:39.640 this point. We just look back. Yes, we're so lucky. 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.880 I mean, we made it out of we're still around, 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.840 first of all, a hundred of millions of people that 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.160 want to do what we got to do. Man, we 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.719 just look back and go, oh, I'm so grateful. I'm 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.719 so I've got a healthy son, and you guys are 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.120 doing great, and you've are happy with your partner, and 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.040 you have a great new daughter, and you jump on 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:00.920 a trampoline every day. 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.520 You know, I don't know the trampoline, So that I can, 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.520 so that I can live as long and look as 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:08.759 good as you at. 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.200 That age, nobody can, nobody will do that. 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.000 No, it's just a goal. It's just a goal. No, 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.759 tell us about your book though, honestly, that's awesome. It's 0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:19.440 congrats and like peybody should. 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.920 Have a book it. Yes, I have stories for days 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:28.239 because you're so universally loved by everyone, so everyone wants 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.160 to talk to you. I'm sure you have friends all 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.000 over the world. Yeah, tell us about this book. 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.600 Well, it's just that I always said no. And there's 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.319 some offers that came around once in a while and 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:38.759 be like, I'm not gonna talk about who I slept 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.360 with the I'm not going to I'm not that interesting. 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.160 What do I have to talk about, you know? And 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.759 then then Bob died and they came around again, and 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.400 I just think about fatherhood and a lot of people 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.880 were dying and I thought, you know, I want to 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.120 pay tribute to them, and I have beautiful parents. And 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.879 then as I'm writing it, I just go, I forgot 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.880 about this for about that, you know, And so there 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.719 are some pretty interesting stories, but it's just about I 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.520 just I just have had such a wonderful life and 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:05.759 not all it's been perfect, and I've made a lot 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.759 of mistakes, and you know, I've learned from that. I 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:09.920 really trying to find all the things that were relatable 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:10.759 to other people I've. 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:13.080 Cheated on. 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.480 I was that bullies and I was bullied a lot 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.560 in school, so that kind of thing, and I got 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:19.680 to clear with the Beach boys. 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.120 That's so great. I can't wait to read the book. 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:23.520 I'm very excited. 0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:25.040 When is it coming out? 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.719 October? October twenty Yes. 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:29.520 You're going to do it. 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:30.799 You have to go do a book tour. 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:32.440 Not very little. 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.160 No, that's really exciting though. It's very It must be. 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:42.399 It must have been like therapeutic in some way to like, yeah, 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:43.359 cathartic as well. 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:44.680 Well. 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.359 I hope we get to work together again at some point. 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.920 I wait, on your show, you get to work with Jesselyn. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.160 You get to work with Jesslyn, and you get to 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.000 work with Kayala, my girl, Kala. 0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.400 Everybody, let's zoom again, three of us. 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.480 Sometimes No, for sure, let's do it. Thanks for doing this. 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:03.560 We really do appreciate it. 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.680 Yeah, you know that. I was very nervous coming into 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.960 that show, and just because you know, well some of 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:11.480 the things you talked about. But the two of you 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.680 were so kind to me and all the way through 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.520 and we stayed in touch, you know, more Jed than Kevin. 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.000 And that's why I'm going to reveal its the internet thing. 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.480 I'd like Jenna better, but because Kevin sort of ignored 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:24.680 me after he went gay and that was it. 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.080 You know, I knew I had a chance. I was like, 0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:27.840 never mind. 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.640 But I'm proud of you man, and you're fighting. I 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.319 try to help you where I can on the social 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.920 media stuff and Jenna, I just love you, love you, 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:38.640 love you, love you person. 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.920 Thank you have a great yes, and make sure everyone 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.680 goes to pre orders your book, that book. I love 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.560 you John, John, You're the best of you. 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.399 Kevin. Do you believe that we had a beach boy 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.920 and John Stamos in one one interview? 0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.480 No, Like my face hurts from smiling. I got goosebumps. 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.279 I was sweating to meet someone who has like the 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.239 two of them together. They're star power combined. 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.880 You really like in the in the presence of greatness. 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:14.000 Truly, we just talked to a beach boy. I don't know, 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:15.400 I I. 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.120 And also we got invited to with the Beach Boys concert. 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.000 I'm holding John to that. 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.200 Oh yeah, we're going all three dates. By the way, 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:22.320 you better have a babysitter. 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.600 We're definitely going. Oh I'm leaving my husband at home. Great, 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.200 he's watching the baby. 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:31.399 Work cod Kean Austin can watch the kid. Great, We're 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:35.279 going to the concert. Thank you, John, Thank you for 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:39.200 being so just per usual, open and honest. 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.760 Just a good human. Like sometimes I know like he's 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.120 he's so famous, he's like the Mecca of famous. But 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:49.120 like look at the kind like appreciative, generous man that 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:52.239 he is like with just his big, big heart. So 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.719 I mean, he's the type of famous and he likes 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:56.440 me more Kevin he does. 0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:00.720 And I because he has good taste. I understand people 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.319 come up to him everywhere he goes all day, every 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.600 day and to still be that nice, that nice is 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.239 just truly a wonder to see and can't believe we 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.680 get to call him our friend. So thank you John 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.520 for that hope you enjoyed. We will see you next time. 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:17.800 That's what you really missed. 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.640 Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.960 that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.319 us a review and leave us five stars. See you 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:26.719 next time.