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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to and that's where you really miss podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am Jenna, I.

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Speaker 2: Am Kevin, and wow wow wow wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wowsa, it's all I can.

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Speaker 2: You welcome in advance. You know, because Jenna is the

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Speaker 2: best and the most universally liked person I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: She is able to sometimes pull guests that the rest

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Speaker 2: of us just are grateful for her. So Jenna, tell him.

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Speaker 1: Who we have today, the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 1: Uncle Jesse himself, our friend, our dear dear friend, John Stamos,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carl. He's here and I don't need to say

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Speaker 1: much more.

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Speaker 2: And also because doctor Carl is currently rehearsing for a tour,

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Speaker 2: we also might have a surprise guest. Oh my god

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Speaker 2: that hops in to say hey, and I will never recover.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just too much for one fun heart.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's the best of Enjoy our conversation with the loveliest,

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Speaker 2: hottest John Stamos.

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Speaker 1: John, Jenna, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: I miss you so much, both of you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I miss you so much, so much, so much for being.

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Speaker 3: Here my pleasure. I miss one of you more than

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Speaker 3: the other. If you guys, you guys figured out. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying who. We have so much to talk about,

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Speaker 3: but we have so much to unpack. I mean, Glee, fine, whatever,

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Speaker 3: but we we got to talk about Kevin. I'm proud

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Speaker 3: of you. You found your true thing and you're out

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Speaker 3: there fighting the good fight. And uh, I'm really uh.

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Speaker 3: I've watched you and I'm just I'm a proud friend.

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Speaker 3: You've really done fantastic.

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Speaker 2: My god, John, that's so sweet. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Well, sure, John, form just giving us all the compliments.

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Speaker 2: You're next, Yeah, go to Jenna out, please go keep talking.

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Speaker 3: I really I was so impressed with you, and so

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Speaker 3: are you in a relationship now?

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Speaker 2: I am? I yeah. You Actually you met my first

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Speaker 2: and then he was like, oh my god, I love you.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Brazil and I love you since

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Speaker 2: Brazil and I it was like the first three days

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Speaker 2: Oh come on, well, yeah, you're like the nicest human

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Speaker 1: You did you remember the Living Legend?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first one of the first days,

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Speaker 3: I was standing on my steps of the trailer and

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Speaker 3: I gathered you guys were all together for some reason.

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Speaker 3: So camere, guys, I'm gonna give you one piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: You don't say that too late.

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Speaker 3: But but you two were the most welcoming to me,

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Speaker 2: We tried, we kept each other in check and it

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Speaker 3: You know. I had so many incredible mentors growing up,

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Speaker 3: You look you work out too much, but you look great.

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Speaker 3: I mean every time she's jumping and doing and running.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we were on FaceTime last night until yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if we take anything away from him,

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Speaker 3: of the day, that's important. Man. Then he never left

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Speaker 3: proud of you. You know, I want to see you naked.

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Speaker 3: They got dirty, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as they should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they always do. Kevin and I dirty text all

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Speaker 3: Well it was. It was frightening because you know, right

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. I was just older this

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm writing, I'm writing this book, and I never

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Speaker 3: realized that I couldn't imagine what was going through your

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00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 3: heads during that time. You know, just you had to

437
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 3: just be thinking all the time about what's next, where

438
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 3: we go, sleep, we do the right thing, you get people.

439
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hard. It was it was like they

440
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: worked you. They worked us to the bone. And then

441
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 1: on the weekends, you had like press and you had

442
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: all of these things to do, and so there was

443
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: just no break from each other or from the show,

444
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: like no breathing room to like sit back and look

445
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: back at what we were doing. And during the time,

446
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: there's no like reflection time. It was just like you're

447
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: almost suffocated by it in many ways, at least that's

448
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: how I felt.

449
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: But at the same time it was and I'm not

450
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: saying this just to like be sweet to you, but

451
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: at the same time, then our job was to like

452
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: show up and get to work with people like you.

453
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.

454
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: It was very odd that people that we looked up

455
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: to wanted to be on a show that we were.

456
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: You know it still even though the show is becoming big,

457
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: like you know how that like you're not al of

458
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 2: a sudden a different person, right right, all of a sudden,

459
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 2: you have all of these people that you love that

460
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: are coming to work at your place of work, and

461
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 2: like you turning to us being like is this right?

462
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Am I doing this thing?

463
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 4: Right?

464
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 3: You?

465
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: Really?

466
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: Well?

467
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: Speaking of we talked about this on the podcast By

468
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: the Way, John. The time that you your friend Jeff

469
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: decided that he was going to screen your first episode.

470
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 1: And so we watched Britney Brittany with you, right, your

471
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: first episode of the show at Jeff's house, and you

472
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: forgot to tell us that it was with your cast.

473
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: So like we showed up and we didn't know where

474
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: we were going or like yeah, and we're like I'm like,

475
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with the whole Tanner family. Like nobody told

476
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: us John didn't, you know, like buried the lead.

477
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: As we show up, it's like whose house it was?

478
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: It was those are your friends? I get it, but

479
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: it was just funny.

480
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: Jenna and I were sitting there like what's going on?

481
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: I remember, but I think I was closest to the

482
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: two of you, right, I don't even hang out with

483
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: anyone that much, because yeah, but so remember so I

484
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: did that and then so the whole lure was this

485
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: rocky horror picture showing to do how to do? You know?

486
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I could wait, and this

487
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: is the way I thought of it, or I heard.

488
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: Why I ended up not doing it was that because

489
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: I remember because it was lou right, I worked with

490
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: her later.

491
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: To the wardrobe.

492
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: She they made me this boostier like you know that

493
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: and it was like and I said oh man, I

494
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 3: wanted to do that. I remember. I remember sitting at

495
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: at the chateau of Ryan goes, well, now your whole

496
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: stomach's gonna be exposed, said, I've been working out a

497
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: look a look in the chateau. Point my shirt look

498
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: a little bit right. Yeah, don't don't eat those fries.

499
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: You know.

500
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: So then I remember I did the fitting for it.

501
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: They took a bunch of pictures and what I heard

502
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: and I could you know this is what I could

503
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: be wrong? Was the network saw it in the studio?

504
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: Whatever they said, you got one straight guy on the show.

505
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: Keep him out of you know, women's.

506
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: God, Oh my god.

507
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: And I was so And then I think Lou call

508
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: me or somebody said, which anyway, that's that's and then

509
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: I was shifted over to to do the Eddie character.

510
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: What do you guys know?

511
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 4: What do you know?

512
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: I remember you coming to us because and and you

513
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 2: you very much got how we all worked, because we

514
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: all had a piece together, like intel from different departments

515
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: that we all collected. So you would come to us

516
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: be like, so here's what I heard. Is this? I

517
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: wanted to do that. I was ready to do it.

518
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't know let's see what we can find out.

519
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Right right, No, I don't think we ever got the

520
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: real intel, like why.

521
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: That is what we heard as well? Yeah, and then Amber,

522
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: I think then got that. Did you ever record the

523
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: song or anything?

524
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: Well? I think I did.

525
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: I think you.

526
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: Guys want to hear another piece of you know who

527
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: who I bought my house from that I live in

528
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: now who Adam Anders?

529
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so you moved Yeah, yes, that's an amazing house.

530
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: By the way, it was until we moved in, you know.

531
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 3: But he's that recording studio in there.

532
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: Do you remember did you.

533
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Guys ever record there?

534
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: But some of the I think some of the bundackground, Yeah, I.

535
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: Don't, yeah, but I don't. It might have been later

536
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: Darren recorded as Christmas record there recorded there anyway. So

537
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: when I went into singing Hopportunity, I was like, I

538
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: can't sing it, you know, this is too high, and

539
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: they go, no, it'll be fine. Is it quite try Opportunity?

540
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, thanks, we got it.

541
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: Well, you know that means to us they can make

542
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: anything work.

543
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: Well me too, man, That's what I was that and

544
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: that's what I fell in love with Auto Tune. And

545
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: she's my mistress. But then we have to go on

546
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: on Broadway and sing live, and it's like, come.

547
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: On right, yeah, it ruins you. You go into that

548
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: studio and like sing remotely close to the note and

549
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: then they can melody in it to be correct.

550
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: I on the in New York, on the Baraba shows,

551
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: I was just put so much vibrato on it, and

552
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: eventually I would hit the.

553
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: Exactly remind me, which shows you that you've done I

554
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: saw you in nine, a really long time ago.

555
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: I was terrible around you.

556
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: You were fantastic in that.

557
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: That was one of my great failures. But I'll tell

558
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: you a story about it.

559
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: But I loved you in that show.

560
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: I grew up. My parents were the type that said,

561
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: if you want to do something, to do it. I

562
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: don't know how your parents were with that, but it

563
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: was like, don't put obstacles in the way. I can't

564
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: do this. I can't I don't have an age and

565
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't have and I never did. I just would go.

566
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: And when I finished, I work with Jack clubbing before

567
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: full House, and then when I was done with Fuss,

568
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: I was like, what do I do? Jack? My careers

569
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: like Uncle Jesse get to the theater coders here, I

570
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: said an old saying, I don't dance, it doesn't matter.

571
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: And I got a call around the time to replace

572
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: Matthew Broderick and have to succeed in business. And my

573
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: agent was like, you think you can? I go, yeah,

574
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: me time, give me the material. And I practiced and

575
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: I all night, all day song Dan went in an

576
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: audition board and got it. So that was my first one.

577
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: I just did. And you look back at stuff and

578
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: where did I get the balls to do that?

579
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: What is the what's that for you? Because I struggle

580
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: with that myself. Where Like people are always like do theater,

581
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not something I've ever seems terrifying to

582
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: me because it is so the opposite. I feel like

583
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: of what I get used to Like you.

584
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: No, Well, luckily I was coming from you know, sitcoms,

585
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: which are kind of you know, there's a live audience

586
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: when you can stop and start. I think it was

587
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: about Jack's you know the best company game is like

588
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: you were holding, you held the stage, you got to

589
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: you know all this. So I was I been playing

590
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: with the beach pers since eighty five, and you know,

591
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: sometimes you'll pull up to a gig and it would

592
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: be like a hundred thousand people, you know, or more

593
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: so you have to So some of that was helpful.

594
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: It you know, it's just it was, but it was nothing.

595
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: I never thought I don't want to be on Broadway

596
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 3: one day and I'm a singer. I never I'm a

597
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: terrible I never liked singing. And then working with the

598
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: Beach Boys, you think like, oh, you really must learn

599
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: a lot. No, I get, you know, I don't sing around.

600
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: I mean I do sing with them a little bit,

601
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: but they were so great. So that but nine was this.

602
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: Then I did a cabaret and that was the best

603
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: thing in my life. I just again, I don't know how.

604
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: I was sitting there going like why did I say? Yes?

605
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: What am I doing? And then and then we just

606
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: I just you just have to let go fully, just

607
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: you know. And then then I did nine. But and

608
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: they called this said you want to I wasn't working.

609
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: Do you want to go back to do you want

610
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: to go to back to cabaret? Or do you want

611
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: to do nine? And I'd seen I seen nine of

612
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: the previews because we knew Antonio and and it wasn't

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: great and he wasn't great and you know, and so

614
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: I thought, I'll go do that because it's new, I

615
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: should stretch. And then by the time I went there

616
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: was like a year later, and I said yes to it,

617
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: and I went to see Antonio and he blew the

618
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: roof off the place. He was incredible.

619
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 4: You know.

620
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: I was a previews and I go, what am I doing?

621
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you couldn't get tick And his wife was

622
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: across the street and Melli Griffith do in Chicago, and

623
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: the streets were packed. And then I remember driving up

624
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: with this with this limbo driver and I said, what's

625
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: going on? Here is the president? I said, oh, no,

626
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: it's Antonio's last talking about Antonio like it was a creamy, rich,

627
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: stupid look. Oh it's Antonio's last night, and I feel

628
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: sorry for whoever's gonna have to replace him. Yeah, it

629
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 3: was like that. So it was tough. I mean it

630
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: was you know, it was three hours of singing and.

631
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: It's a hard show. Definitely, But I thought you did great.

632
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: I really did.

633
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed you and I and then I got

634
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: to see you and Birdie too.

635
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: That was another not good one.

636
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Well, the production was definitely a challenge, for sure.

637
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: You know, you go into these things and you go,

638
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't go do my best, and then you can't control.

639
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's all you can do. That's broad glea.

640
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: So wait, what else did we do on there? We did?

641
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: I did that?

642
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: And then what else did you do on this?

643
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: I was having a great time, but then all of

644
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, like I was already got I

645
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

646
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Who this time.

647
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: No, that's what happened. Storylines go, and you know, the

648
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: of course like Emma and Will have their whole storyline

649
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: so inevitably, like it's.

650
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Like a different shiny object appears in the distance, like, oh,

651
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: what's that? Let me that's follow that?

652
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: You know you said it. But then he but then

653
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: he came back and then he'd come back around with

654
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, with new normal.

655
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Like I remember he likes his people.

656
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes his people for sure.

657
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just kind of and sometimes you

658
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: just have to get in front of his face and

659
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, and then he remembers. Somebody is saying, but

660
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: do you guys he was on your he was on

661
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: the podcast.

662
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's coming.

663
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: A couple of times he never really talked about the show,

664
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: and I think this was like a really safe outlet

665
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: for him to like talk about the show, and he said,

666
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: he said the tone for us, which was really great,

667
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: And we say that a lot like he really opened

668
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: the doors to make these conversations acceptable because he kind

669
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: of he did it. So, yeah, we've seen him and

670
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: we're you know, I think we've a lot of us

671
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: have like healed our relationships with him and the experience

672
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: of the show and you know, all like the things

673
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: that we were went on said like kind of after

674
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: and I have passed away, to be honest, and so

675
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: it was actually really healing.

676
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: Was it on a zoom? Were you guys on a zoom?

677
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: And after.

678
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: He started he started sort of calling us. He from

679
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: like the very first moment of her having gone missing.

680
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: He got in touch with us, He got in touch

681
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: with us, and it sort of became I think we

682
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: were also amped up emotionally that we were just sort

683
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: of like gloves off, we're not you know, you know Ryan,

684
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: he's intimidating and now he's like the biggest, you know,

685
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: showrunner in the world, and so I think we had

686
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: all just sort of been like whatever, like we've just

687
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: lost another friend. Like you you don't really intimidate us anymore.

688
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: You don't scare us. And that's what he was saying

689
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: to us too. He's like, he's like, nobody has anything

690
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: to lose by like opening up and being honest with me.

691
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: And I think when you were the raw emotionally, you

692
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: have to just get it all out. And luckily there's

693
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: someone on the other end of the line who's open

694
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: to receiving that and hearing it and accepting all of that.

695
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: And that was sort of what was happening. And I

696
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: don't know, it was weird that it happened during then,

697
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, during that time, but it just did. And yeah,

698
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: and it felt good. We all had conversations with each

699
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: other amongst ourselves additions to just him, and it.

700
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 3: Was it was it was it one on one.

701
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: You're saying like it was one on one.

702
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

703
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

704
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: He would call and talk to people and like we

705
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: really done. A lot of us hadn't spoken to him

706
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: in a really long time, so it was really nice

707
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: to like, and I think a lot of us were

708
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: waiting for him to open the door, to be honest,

709
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and I think he was kind of not really privy

710
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: to it, not really understanding like some of the pain

711
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: that we had felt and were like holding on to.

712
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: So that's good to hear. So so you guys, when

713
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: I was the second year, everything just kind of slid it.

714
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: What did it? Well? Then Corey died? Right when did

715
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: he die?

716
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: The season four before?

717
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Right before season four? Then you came back after that though,

718
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't you? Were you up until the tail before he

719
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: just passed away?

720
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: It was before?

721
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: It was right before because did.

722
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: He pass away? He passed away during the hiatus right.

723
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, between three and four, and we pushed for season

724
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: four like two weeks or three weeks into we were

725
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: supposed to start, like it happened like right before we

726
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: were supposed to start.

727
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: How was Ryan then? Was he arounded the corona?

728
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: That was a very complicated Yeah.

729
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: Well, he also said on the podcast too, like he

730
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: he like he felt like a lot of responsibility that

731
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: he didn't know how to handle it. But he I

732
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: think he felt very deeply when Corey passed away, and

733
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: sure that was really hard for him, and so I

734
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: think he kind of like everybody like just went inward

735
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: like we went away right, And he said he would

736
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: have stopped the show at the point when Corey passed away,

737
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: had we all done it again. And we and we

738
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean me as a collective. I felt like the

739
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: show died when Corey died.

740
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and did I mean we could feel that. And

741
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: it was like a lot of people when you are

742
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: going back to the same places every single day and

743
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: are constantly reminded of this gigantic personality, you know that

744
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: you that you shared all of those experiences with in

745
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: those places, regardless if it was us, any of the cast,

746
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: the writers, all of those buildings and rooms were filled

747
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: with him, and so yeah, it's sort of you're re

748
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: immersing yourself in this like for lack of a better word,

749
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: trauma of constant being reminded of this person that is

750
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: no longer there.

751
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, they had a memorial in the auditorium where our

752
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: stage was, and that was really hard for me personally,

753
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Like we had that memorial and then we just had

754
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: to go back to like being there and being okay

755
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: with it, and that was really hard and weird.

756
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: There was only a handful of you that people that

757
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: like tanity, that knew what you guys went through, right,

758
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: no one else on the planet. And then you lost

759
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: one of your soldiers then and was Leah was She's

760
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: dating him when were they and so that affected her

761
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: and then.

762
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you had been part of a cast,

763
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: a young cast, and a cast that became really successful.

764
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: Like like what did that mean to you to like

765
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: we all had each other right to lean on through

766
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: thick and thin, the good and the bad, and that

767
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: has to this day. I think why we are all

768
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: still so close and like from your experience, has that

769
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: been the case for you guys? Like is that why

770
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: you've all been you know, you're still friends, still close.

771
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: And with the full house?

772
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you've been through this such a specific time

773
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: and experience together that like who else is able to

774
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: relate to that other than and then yeah, we still

775
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: might have that ahead of us.

776
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you guys? Are we talking about this ship

777
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: the Glee coming back? I think there was moments there there.

778
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, let's announce it today.

779
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's happening or not.

780
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Carls back.

781
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I just love how like you were like,

782
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: let's fire the Olsen Twins. That that was like my

783
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: news like in my news speed the other day, I

784
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: was I was giggling.

785
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: I've said that over the years, a couple of times

786
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: nobody ever paid attention. But for some reason this time

787
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: we were we were abnormal. It still are. I mean,

788
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: we were too close. It was just a weird thing.

789
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: And it wasn't because you know, the full House was

790
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: successful what not the first year or two, but it

791
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 3: wasn't like you guys, wasn't a meteorite rise. And then

792
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, every year since the show's been off, it's

793
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger. I never thought

794
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: I thought we all done, it was gonna be done.

795
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: I never thought I'd have to think about it again.

796
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: But we just we just clicked. Bob and I hated

797
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: each other at the beginning. We didn't get along at

798
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: allow a good amount of time. We didn't hate each other,

799
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: but he was His process was so different than mine.

800
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: I came, you know, as an actor, so I wanted

801
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: to make the scenes better and work on the you know,

802
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: the motion of the show. And he just wanted to

803
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: do dirty jokes and make the guy pulling the cable laugh.

804
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 3: I put that into the show and it was fun

805
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: for a while, but it was also very just distracting,

806
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: and it was disruptive to everyone else's process. We eventually,

807
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: you know, obviously we worked it out, but we didn't

808
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: really I'm close, until after the show was done, and

809
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: he was very instrumental in keeping us all together. You know,

810
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: he was excuse me, the twins moved to New York

811
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: and bought me. I think they owned New York now literally,

812
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I got to tell you too, that

813
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: the one of the only good things to come out

814
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: of Bob Well did make it Ashley, and we hadn't

815
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: really seen him much. I mean, we stay in touch

816
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: with a little bit, but Bob really did. And they

817
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: were so great and they just said all the things

818
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: again like probably what you guys got to hear, Like,

819
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: you know, it was we loved it because you'd hear

820
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: rulers or you'd say, well they hated their child, they

821
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: hated being on the show or whatever, and were just

822
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: like okay. And then when I did Fuller House, they

823
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: didn't want to come back, and I was angry for

824
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: a minute, and you know that got out and so

825
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: we never really but they were they just we love you,

826
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: we loved our childhood, We love being with you. We

827
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: missed Bob. They came out of my house, they came

828
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: to my house and they brought a pork chop and sage.

829
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but thank you.

830
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: That sounds good. That sounds like on brand.

831
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: Those parts, the frozen pork chopping. So that was really nice.

832
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: And so we stayed. We stayed very close. But but

833
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: you guys, I think it was a little different because

834
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: you were all pretty much unknown and then the biggest

835
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: stars in the world. Now, let's talk about our trip

836
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: to Disney.

837
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: Do you remember, yes, of course, you relationship with Disney.

838
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: You're a Disney, Disney number one fan, you are Disney.

839
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know what. I wanted to shake that

840
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: before I met my wife, but she worse. She's worse

841
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: than me. And even before that, I was like, i

842
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: gotta drop this Disney stuff. And I'm trying to be

843
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: a serious actor. I'm trying to think. And I was

844
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: out to dinner with some people and Ryank Gostlin was there.

845
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: I was sitting next to me and he's like, uh,

846
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: you're a big Disney guy, right, I go, yeah, I enough,

847
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: I goes, I love it. I go all the time.

848
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: I got mixtapes for each ride, and I walked and

849
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: sometimes I go high. I did it. I go really yeah.

850
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: So that's was like, okay, I can Yeah, I'm a

851
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: Disney again. It didn't hurt his career. And my wife

852
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: was so into it. I was like, okay, I was.

853
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Out, You're back in now.

854
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: But we were planning, we planned it, and then I

855
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: think Chris was going to go with us, right Andy,

856
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: and it was it was raining.

857
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Well, no, we didn't plan we didn't plan that, but

858
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: we're like, we're still going one day it rained.

859
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: Right, that's right. I mean it was touring. But it

860
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: was so fun.

861
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Wasn't it so much fun? So great because it was

862
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: it was a bit of a ship show in the

863
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: weather department, but that made it so memorable and I

864
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: just couldn't believe that. Yeah, you took us all around.

865
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: It was incredible, so much fun. I remember it was

866
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: kind of like quiet too because there was so much rain,

867
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: so like it wasn't as busy as it normally would be,

868
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: which is nice.

869
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: I have really cute pictures of us and rain gears.

870
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: Do you guys have this pictures?

871
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me those.

872
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 3: I have them.

873
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: We got we got our pickles. Oh, wasn't it I doubt.

874
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't it one of the guys in Bye Bye Bertie?

875
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: But were you Kevin? Were you out then?

876
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: I mean not like publicly, but you know to like

877
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: our co workers and friends.

878
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: Yes, do you remember what year that was, Kevin? It

879
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: must have been twelve eleven or twelve.

880
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: Eleven or twelve.

881
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'll look for him.

882
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: I have pictures, but you out. I don't think I did.

883
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: I probably not. I probably hadn't.

884
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: No, but you remember the little guy who came with

885
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: us from from by by Bertie.

886
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying there who was with us?

887
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: And I thought maybe you guys Marco?

888
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: Didn't Marco come? Marco my boyfriend at the time, Yeah.

889
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: He did know, but there's somebody else that came with us,

890
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remember who it was. It was

891
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: my friend.

892
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: I had to come to Jesus with Marco before. I

893
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: was like, look, you need to bring it in.

894
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: If you're going to come to Disneyland.

895
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: We are not friends with Stas play it cools.

896
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: Who just shut up? That's my club? Right?

897
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: How's it going?

898
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: This is the guy that wrote all the music, he

899
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: didn't write he knows, we just about knows. This is

900
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: the great Mike Cloud.

901
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: How's it going? Nice to meet you.

902
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: It's so nice to meet you.

903
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: Oh, it's nice to meet you.

904
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: It's honor.

905
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: These are our gleek They're on Glee when I was

906
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: on there. He doesn't joke. Everything he doesn't joke. Sometimes

907
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: we do Surfer Girl and I said, Mike dedicates all

908
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: the ladies in the audience, and he says, okay, all

909
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: the ladies from John the beverage screams, I said, and

910
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: a couple of the guys too, And he said that

911
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: a couple of.

912
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: So did a couple of episodes of Glee.

913
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: Dude, that sounds about right, fair enough, fair.

914
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote, he wrote, I get around, fun, fun, fun.

915
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. These songs nobody's ever heard of.

916
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan.

917
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: Coca crazy.

918
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

919
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: It is an honor to meet you. You are absolute legend. Yes,

920
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: well that makes no no more talented than the rest

921
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: of us all combines.

922
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the mount rushmore of rock.

923
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: Shouldn't. He's one of the greatest. Is this bad?

924
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: He's very boy.

925
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: I've been hanging around him since eight nineteen eighty five.

926
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: He was Blacky on General Hospital.

927
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: The first show was the first show he invited me

928
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: to sort of play a bunch of the show was

929
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: in Washington, DC at eighty five for a.

930
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 4: Million, well three quarters of million.

931
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but in Philadelphia, And.

932
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: That's cool, that's wild, absolutely insane, that's this history.

933
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how did that happen?

934
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: You should have seen the line of the bathroom.

935
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: People were probably just going where they could.

936
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: Is he's responsibly they weren't the pins. He's responsible for

937
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: some of the most optimistic, beautiful music that you know,

938
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: when they wrote it the sixties was powerful and a

939
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: mental wouldn't be nice. But now when I play with

940
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: them and I see these audience, they just they're just

941
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: you know, d C is at an all time low

942
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: and discord at an all time high. But I thank

943
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: god we have the Beach Boys music to get us through.

944
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Truly very true.

945
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: I need it so bad. Wouldn't it be nice? Optimism? Positivity?

946
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of hit songs that are optimistic

947
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, and through the test of time, Like,

948
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: there's a reason why those songs are still gigantic today

949
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: because people need them. That's part of the public consciousness

950
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: now is those songs.

951
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: Researcher in Sheffield, England that went through hundreds of songs

952
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: and they said the Good Vibrations came in number one

953
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: for making people feel good.

954
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Wow, appropriately, wasn't it.

955
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Oh, I listened to your music on the regular,

956
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: just so you know. I'm sure you heard that a lot.

957
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: But daughter was pregnant. She played Gary Nose every day. Yeah,

958
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: that lyric was maybe. I mean, I always love it

959
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: is not a good first line from nor.

960
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: I didn't write that bar and people use it their wedding, so.

961
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: I know we were just talking about that their divorce.

962
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 4: I guess.

963
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: We did. That was our first dance, my first thing.

964
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh my, that's great. That's so great. Oh my goodness.

965
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: Well, it's nice to meet you all.

966
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: And I will butt out you're good. We're going to

967
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: come see you at the ball.

968
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

969
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. That's great.

970
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: Nice, that's right.

971
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: Monday and Tuesday I.

972
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: Will be front row. I'll have your name written on

973
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: my chest, you know, I'll be that guy. Nice to

974
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: meet you, Mike.

975
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: I wow, I told you guys this book. If you

976
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: would have told me, it's called if you would have

977
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: told them, if you would have told me. My first concert,

978
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: I went to the Beach at the Universal Theaters thirteen fourteen,

979
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: told me that, you know, I'd be here playing with

980
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: them four weeks later. I don't know about you, guys,

981
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: but I've just turned into pure gratitude and grace. At

982
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: this point. We just look back. Yes, we're so lucky.

983
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we made it out of we're still around,

984
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: first of all, a hundred of millions of people that

985
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: want to do what we got to do. Man, we

986
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: just look back and go, oh, I'm so grateful. I'm

987
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: so I've got a healthy son, and you guys are

988
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: doing great, and you've are happy with your partner, and

989
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: you have a great new daughter, and you jump on

990
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: a trampoline every day.

991
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know the trampoline, So that I can,

992
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: so that I can live as long and look as

993
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: good as you at.

994
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: That age, nobody can, nobody will do that.

995
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: No, it's just a goal. It's just a goal. No,

996
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: tell us about your book though, honestly, that's awesome. It's

997
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: congrats and like peybody should.

998
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: Have a book it. Yes, I have stories for days

999
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: because you're so universally loved by everyone, so everyone wants

1000
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: to talk to you. I'm sure you have friends all

1001
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: over the world. Yeah, tell us about this book.

1002
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's just that I always said no. And there's

1003
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: some offers that came around once in a while and

1004
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: be like, I'm not gonna talk about who I slept

1005
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: with the I'm not going to I'm not that interesting.

1006
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: What do I have to talk about, you know? And

1007
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: then then Bob died and they came around again, and

1008
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: I just think about fatherhood and a lot of people

1009
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: were dying and I thought, you know, I want to

1010
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: pay tribute to them, and I have beautiful parents. And

1011
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: then as I'm writing it, I just go, I forgot

1012
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: about this for about that, you know, And so there

1013
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: are some pretty interesting stories, but it's just about I

1014
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: just I just have had such a wonderful life and

1015
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: not all it's been perfect, and I've made a lot

1016
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: of mistakes, and you know, I've learned from that. I

1017
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: really trying to find all the things that were relatable

1018
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: to other people I've.

1019
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: Cheated on.

1020
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: I was that bullies and I was bullied a lot

1021
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: in school, so that kind of thing, and I got

1022
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: to clear with the Beach boys.

1023
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: That's so great. I can't wait to read the book.

1024
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

1025
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: When is it coming out?

1026
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: October? October twenty Yes.

1027
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: You're going to do it.

1028
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: You have to go do a book tour.

1029
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Not very little.

1030
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: No, that's really exciting though. It's very It must be.

1031
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: It must have been like therapeutic in some way to like, yeah,

1032
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: cathartic as well.

1033
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: Well.

1034
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: I hope we get to work together again at some point.

1035
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I wait, on your show, you get to work with Jesselyn.

1036
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: You get to work with Jesslyn, and you get to

1037
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: work with Kayala, my girl, Kala.

1038
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: Everybody, let's zoom again, three of us.

1039
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes No, for sure, let's do it. Thanks for doing this.

1040
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it.

1041
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that. I was very nervous coming into

1042
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: that show, and just because you know, well some of

1043
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: the things you talked about. But the two of you

1044
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: were so kind to me and all the way through

1045
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: and we stayed in touch, you know, more Jed than Kevin.

1046
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm going to reveal its the internet thing.

1047
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: I'd like Jenna better, but because Kevin sort of ignored

1048
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: me after he went gay and that was it.

1049
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, I knew I had a chance. I was like,

1050
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: never mind.

1051
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: But I'm proud of you man, and you're fighting. I

1052
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: try to help you where I can on the social

1053
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: media stuff and Jenna, I just love you, love you,

1054
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: love you, love you person.

1055
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Thank you have a great yes, and make sure everyone

1056
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: goes to pre orders your book, that book. I love

1057
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: you John, John, You're the best of you.

1058
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: Kevin. Do you believe that we had a beach boy

1059
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: and John Stamos in one one interview?

1060
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: No, Like my face hurts from smiling. I got goosebumps.

1061
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: I was sweating to meet someone who has like the

1062
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: two of them together. They're star power combined.

1063
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: You really like in the in the presence of greatness.

1064
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: Truly, we just talked to a beach boy. I don't know,

1065
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: I I.

1066
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: And also we got invited to with the Beach Boys concert.

1067
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm holding John to that.

1068
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're going all three dates. By the way,

1069
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: you better have a babysitter.

1070
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: We're definitely going. Oh I'm leaving my husband at home. Great,

1071
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: he's watching the baby.

1072
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: Work cod Kean Austin can watch the kid. Great, We're

1073
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: going to the concert. Thank you, John, Thank you for

1074
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: being so just per usual, open and honest.

1075
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: Just a good human. Like sometimes I know like he's

1076
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: he's so famous, he's like the Mecca of famous. But

1077
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: like look at the kind like appreciative, generous man that

1078
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: he is like with just his big, big heart. So

1079
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the type of famous and he likes

1080
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: me more Kevin he does.

1081
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: And I because he has good taste. I understand people

1082
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: come up to him everywhere he goes all day, every

1083
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: day and to still be that nice, that nice is

1084
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: just truly a wonder to see and can't believe we

1085
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: get to call him our friend. So thank you John

1086
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: for that hope you enjoyed. We will see you next time.

1087
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: That's what you really missed.

1088
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and

1089
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write

1090
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. See you

1091
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: next time.