1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody, Welcome into a Wednesday, a Nation of 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: your host, Sean Harris, Football and all the sideloud reporters. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: We get ready for the Cleveland Browns. Third straight year 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: we will have played the Browns and fourth in the 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: last fifth eighteen twenty twenty on twenty two, so four 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: and last five. It's just at this time we'll be 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: facing somebody that we know. Yes, Jadevion Clowney will be 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: coming back to town to face. I think it's the 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: first time Clowne has played. Oh yeah, that other guy 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: that plays quarterback too. So we'll talk about all that 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: and then some on this show. We're gonna hear from 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: GM Nick Caserio. We are going to hear from Kevin Coogler. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome in them many had to Mike's Jim Donovan. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of men behind the mic 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: sort of stuff with Mark Vandemer which is gonna be 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: very very cool. But we're gonna kick off this show 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: with Laramie Tutzell. Larry doesn't do this often, but when 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: he does, it is absolute gold. And he sat down 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: with Deep City for a deep slant interview and they 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: got into everything deep Armie Tunsil's great stuff. Take a listen. 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: It's a deep one on one presented by Expending My 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: guests this week, Laramie Tunsil, welcome in. It's been a 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: minute since we've done on one on one. It has 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: been with nineteens. The last time we did one, I 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: think eighteen eighteen. I think we had just traded for 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: you and I did a deep drive on Larremie Tunsil. 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: You were not super active on social media back then. 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: It was super hard to find information about you. A 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: little bit easier now, all right, So I want to 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: start with the two point conversion. Oh ye had hit 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: it where it hurts. Yes, all right. So how long 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: did you have to lobby to get involved in that play? 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: It took a while, it was we started putting that 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: in in train accomp Okay, yeah yea. So Pep caught 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: it for a two point conversion. It would have been 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: in the books, but it wasn't. It was something. It 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: was like a little one for me. But the play 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: didn't go as playing the defense. Lament actually ran a 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: route with me. Oh I had to turn around and 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: like do like a little back shoulder throw. It was 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: a difficult It was a difficult throw and kids, but 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, I dropped it. It was okay, It's okay. 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that that's not the end of 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: your receiving career. Pat McAfee actually tweeted about it. What 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: did he say? He said, Larmie Tunsil is an athlete 47 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: and he said he wants to see the ball in 48 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: your hands more appreciate that. So even though you didn't 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: get it, like a lot of people are lobbying for 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: you to get that again. And I think a lot 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: of people were saying, why is Lamie Tunsil trying to 52 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: catch the ball? But you actually caught a touchdown pass 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: in this Sugar Bowl And it was what do you 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: remember about that play? Because that was a tough it 55 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: was that was the last play of my college career. 56 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: It was what a way to end o touchdown? Was that? 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Just like, I mean, are you trying to lobby to 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: get a touchdown again? Do you do? You show the 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: coaches this? You remind them that. I'll remind them every 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: single time we've been having that play, and Kylee, we've 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: been having that play since my freshman year, and you 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: had to wait until the Sugar Bowl to actually and 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: I got it all right. That's that's amazing. I feel 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: like since the last time I interviewed you, you've evolved 65 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: so much. Your fashion's evolved as well. It's crazy. I 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: think your pregame fits have really come a long way 67 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: as well. How do you think you've changed the best 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: drip on the team? For sure, you know what you 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: say that, But I've heard several players say that the 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: old linemen are bringing it, specifically you and Tight and 71 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: got the best drip of the team. Me Tight is 72 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: busy and uh okay, and it's one more guy, probably 73 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: Tremond I give it. I agree. Raymond know how to 74 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: dress too, you know how to put it all. He's 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of like a I told him. I was like, 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: you got like a little bit of a Miami vibe 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: for a guy that's not from Miami, right, Um, Traymon 78 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: is from Arkansas, not not close to Miami at all. 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I feel like you're doing a little bit more of 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: a formal look the show. More jackets, more clean, more 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: clean look more clean, Yeah, more clean, okay for a 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: little more, Buttega, come dega songs a little French brand. Um, yeah, 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: more like rick Oy and something just clean, simple and casual. 84 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: You know, where's your inspiration come from? Because not many 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: guys your size or dressing like that. So how inspiration 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: comes from? I don't know. I just like being creative. 87 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: This is all me. I just like being creative. I 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: actually have a guy when I'm a close friend of 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: my name Saint Amnik also helped me with the drip too, 90 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: So you know, we kind of put our ideas together 91 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and then we just come out with a plant like that. 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: You and Titus come with the accessories to the bags. Bags. 93 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: You guys have some major bag The bags are important. 94 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: They make the outfit, the goat Yard, the Louise, the 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: botegas that those bags are very important. Okay. Some of 96 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the video guys wanted me to ask you about your quilt, 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: and I thought, what quilts are they talking about? Blanket? 98 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: It's it's my good love blanket. It's a good luck blanket. 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: I was like, we were wondering do you get cold 100 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: on the flights? Like why do you when I get 101 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: on the flights get cold in there and I just 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: put it on. Do you like wrap yourself. It's my 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: good love blanket. But I didn't bring it to Miami 104 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: very fasts. I didn't bring my blanket. No, I don't 105 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: know though, I don't know. So every away game you'll 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: see me with a blankets like it could be a hundred, 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have it. It was cold on the 108 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: plane anyway. All right. So, speaking of good luck, how 109 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: have you thought how your season's gone so far? I 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: know the team is not where you want it to be, obviously, 111 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: but what about you personally? I on your Twitter, you 112 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: can pin a tweet and the one that you've had 113 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: at the top of your Twitter for a while says, 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: very good starter. Okay, very good starter. What is that about? 115 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like that. I think an article 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: came out during an offseason and it had me as 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: a very good starter and it'll just understand. Yeah, yeah, 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: it rued me the wrong way the way. I didn't 119 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: like it. So every time I go to my Twitter 120 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: feed and I see that tweet, this motivates me to 121 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: be better each and every day, eating every game, you know. 122 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard so many people say you're the 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: best left tackle on the last LT one. I mean 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: LT and Larmy Tunsel goes together last time. This time 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: last year, an article came out in Complex that you did, 126 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: and I remember seeing you on the field after it 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: came out, and I thought it was I thought it 128 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: was spectacular. It was you talking about Draft night and 129 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: everything you've gone through, because, like I said, when you 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: got here, you weren't really on social media. You were 131 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: real quiet. I feel like you just sort of played 132 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: it under the radar for so many years, and then 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: like last year, you came out with the whole story 134 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: about Draft night and everything that went down with a 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: gas mask. But I want to know why. Why did 136 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you feel like that was the right time to talk 137 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: about that. I feel like it was the right time 138 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: to speak about the incident that happened Draft night because 139 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the position I put myself in the NFL, right I 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: was at this time, I was the highest last year. 141 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: At that time, I was the highest pay left tackle, 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: and I had made some probows. I had made some 143 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: probows and I was like top one hundred a couple 144 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: of times. So I feel like it was the time 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: to put it out because I was in the spot 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: spotlight at the time. Were you worried that by talking 147 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: about it. People would talk about it again. Was that 148 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: a worry? It was okay with me. Actually I was 149 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: over it. I was over I was done with that. 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: As in the past, I let it go, so it 151 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: was okay to talk about it. You know. I feel like, 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: six years later, the fact that you have to talk 153 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: about it to put it behind you. It's crazy, crazy 154 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't know you at the time, but we 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: were all watching the draft and I never knew that, 156 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: like I'd be sitting here getting to talk to you, 157 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: but just that night just seeing what you had to 158 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: go through. And then I actually watched your press conference 159 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the next day in Miami. I thought you handled it 160 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: so well and so professionally. But to read about like 161 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the obviously we knew that that was like the biggest 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: night of your life, the turmoil that you went through, 163 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: like just to overcome it to where you are today. 164 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Can you watch the draft now and not have like 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: PTSD from watching? Absolutely? Okay? What about now your leadership 166 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: with the team. I feel like you've got everything going 167 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: on for you. You're a captain of the you got 168 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: this seat they introduced you last with the offense. Yeah, 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: it's dope, man, it's actually honor, you know, Cam, I 170 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: don't know what to say about that. One was just 171 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: the first time. Being a captain feels great. It really 172 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: feels great to be honored by my teammates and my coach. 173 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Is that important for a player? I mean, you've got 174 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: all these accolades, Pro Bowl, best left tackle on the league, 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: but to be the team captain, team captain's very important. 176 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? Means a lot. It 177 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: means a lot. I don't have many words to say 178 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: about it, but it means a lot. I'm very honored 179 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: in this position. And I love I love how you 180 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: talk about the young guys, the rookies. Yeah, you call 181 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: them your little bros, a little by You're there, very 182 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: big bro, and you're it's trying to call me og. 183 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little too old now too. 184 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: But it's only year seven, you know what I mean. Yeah, 185 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: so my little brothers and they're do them very well. 186 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Actually yeah. And I thought that the touchdown that Damian had, 187 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I want to say it was in Jacksonville. He scores 188 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown, he hands you to the ball to spike. 189 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: It's funny because I told him I was like, when 190 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: you score right here. Let me spike it. Bro you 191 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: spike the ball almost wrote my ankle. I was like no, no, no. 192 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was the ultimate sign of verse fact 193 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: that he'd be like you, Yeah, how do you feel 194 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: about those guys? Like, it's not just the offensive guys, 195 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: it's a defensive guys to you. Sort of take them 196 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: all in there. You know what I'm gonna say about them? 197 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: They dogs, you know, all of them, every single one 198 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: rookie that we have in there, and it's playing for us, 199 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: our dogs. I love the person you are off the 200 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: field too. I think around Thanksgiving, we saw you host 201 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: an event for single moms and their kids, and you 202 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: talked about just the soft spot that you have for 203 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: single moms. What does that mean to you? To be 204 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: able to do stuff like that. It means a lot. 205 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: And I know my mom would be proud of me 206 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: because she was a single mother. And that's why I 207 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: get my inspiration from because I was like, I always 208 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: just to tell Alan when I make enough money or 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: when I'm in the NFL, and I have that platform, 210 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm always give back to single moms. And just having 211 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: this opportunity to give back single moms means a lot. 212 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: To me, where's your mom now she's an Orlando Does 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: she watch your games? She'd be at the game that's 214 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: the last game, Miami game. What does that like to have? 215 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: What is that like for her? After everything that she 216 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: went through to raise you? To see? Are you playing 217 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: at this level? She loves it? She loves it so much. 218 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: She talked about it all the time. She loves it. Yeah, 219 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: is your mom big into football? Like? Does she watch 220 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: does she know how you play? Like like the left tackles? 221 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Because I tell her about football. She's been she'd been 222 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: watching me play football since I was eight, so she 223 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: got to have a good idea about football. And plus, 224 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: my little brother also played football. You know he went 225 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: to MISS with me. That's right, Alice Weber, Yeah, he 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: went to MISS with me. He's actually um a personal 227 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: trainer and a yoga and struggle out here in Houston. 228 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: So if you need something to just just hit him up. Okay, 229 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: what's what's the name of his place? You can just 230 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: hit him up on Instagram? Up on Instagram? What's the 231 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: one piece? One piece like peac Okay? One piece? Do 232 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: you do yoga? I don't do yoga? More plates? Okay? 233 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Is that how you get your footwork so good? Plates 234 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: basketball actually I got. I was like, plates does not 235 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: really work on is all core? Okay? Small muscles Okay? 236 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: I did it once and I don't think I did 237 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: it right because I couldn't really feel anything. And I 238 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: was like, I think I'm engaged muscles, but I'm not 239 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: in the yoga either. Yeah, I've tried Yoga's hard yea, yeah, 240 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: I think it's you probably need to dedicate some time 241 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: to yoga. All right before I let you go? Music TV? 242 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: What are you into need days? Because like last time 243 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: we talked, you were we were talking about music and 244 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: stranger things. I mean, what are you into now? So 245 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: I got a sofa y'all. It's called Gangs of London 246 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: on Amazon Pride. Okay, best show out right now, tin ten? 247 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: The best show out right? Gans of London. Gangs of London. 248 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: What is it about? Gangs? Of course, it's about gangs. 249 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: And then somebody in one of the top gangs got 250 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: killed and they're just trying to figure out who killed. Oh, gangs, gangs. Yeah, 251 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Like I was like, I was seeing like muscle gangs, No, No, 252 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Gangs of London was like, Oh, we're gonna get Tin 253 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: ten Gangs of London based on true story. Not based 254 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: on true story, Okay, but it's it's word. Okay, I'm 255 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: going to watch this on Amazon Prime telling you music, 256 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: you aren't know where I'm met with the music. I'm 257 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: all over the place. From your ericas, from your shots, 258 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: You're still is my girl the same. I think I 259 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: saw some video on YouTube and that was like the 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: like you had like a shot, a song like intro 261 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: it if you come to about out, Saday's all over 262 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the place. I still think one of the best, one 263 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: of my favorite albums was the best of Shot. It's like, 264 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: you can't beat that. I have Sarda tatted on me. 265 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: That's how, that's how, that's how you love. When I 266 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: turned thirty and I have like this birthday party, Sharday 267 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be there. My words remembered this, remembered this. Okay, 268 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: we're putting it out in the Universey's gonna be there. 269 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: She's coming out with a new album. I don't know 270 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: if you've seen that. No, I didn't. He's coming out 271 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: with a new album. I didn't know she was still 272 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: making coming out with a new album. She's gonna go 273 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: on tour, it, and and then she's gonna come to 274 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: Larmie Tuncle's birthday party. When are you turning thirty? So 275 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm twenty eight right now? Oh you're you're playing? All right, 276 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna put this out there. We gotta like tag 277 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: shut in and make sure that she knows who you are. Please. 278 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: You haven't shot a tattoo. What is it of album cover? Oh? 279 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Her album cover? Oh that's nice. Okay, I wish we 280 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: get a camera on that. We'll have to. We'll put 281 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: a picture of it for sure. All right, Laramie, it's 282 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: been a pleasure. Let's wait like five years for the 283 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: next day. All right, that's left for the rest of Okay, 284 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: So a lot to react to there, but I'm gonna 285 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: start with two things. Number One, Shane's birthday. That's being 286 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Sean pander Gass Laramie, back off, bro, I know you 287 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: love Shade, but her birthday that's our day. Now your day, 288 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: and she shows up, Now, that's cool, that's for you. 289 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: But Shane's birthday for those that know, yeah, that's that's 290 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: being Shan pander Gass day. That's almost like an extra 291 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: birthday for us. Second thing from Laramie Tunsil. He got 292 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: out of that interview, and as soon as he walked out, 293 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: he goes. He turned to Omarty goes, I crushed at interview. 294 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: I just I looked at him. I said, you can 295 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: take my job, and he just start laughing. Not yet, 296 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: but I'm coming. I was like, yeah, I know, I know. 297 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel great, great on the MICA. Wish we got 298 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: him more often, but when he sits down with Deep 299 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: it is absolutely fantastic stuff. But yeah, Shade, big fans 300 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel. John Harris, no doubt we're also big fans 301 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: of Nick Cassario. He joins me and Mark's right here 302 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: in Texas Access. It's great Wednesday here on Texas All Access. 303 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, Football analyst, sideline of reporter. 304 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: It's time talk to Nick Cassario. Marking had a chance 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: to chat with him earlier today. Joining us right now 306 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. It's the general manager, Nick Cassario. Nick, thanks 307 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: a lot for being with us. Rough day in Miami. 308 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: I know it's a big week getting ready for Cleveland, 309 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: but thoughts on the game on Sunday, I know you're 310 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: down big kind of made a run in the second half. Yeah, 311 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: game kind of got away from us a little bit 312 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: early turnovers in the short part of the field, and 313 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: you know we'll scored and then kind of turn the 314 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: ball over there and a plus territory minus territory plus 315 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: territory for them. So I made a few more plays 316 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: in the second half, but the game was just kind 317 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: of too far, you know, a lout of our hands 318 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: at that point, so kind of have to recalibrate and 319 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: kind of get ready for a good Cleveland team here 320 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: this week. Nick, going back and looking at the film 321 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: and looking at what Kyle did, especially in the second half, 322 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: were your thoughts. Yeah, I'd say generally speaking, did a 323 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: decent job managing offense fairly well. A couple throws, you know, 324 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: I think self of Italy he would like to have back. 325 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, the interception was kind of a technique thing 326 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: than anything else, so it will hit a couple of 327 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: plays down the field there. Generally made for the most 328 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: part good decisions, so were able to run the offense 329 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: here effectively. So kind of showed his experience. You know, 330 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: he's played football here for a number of years, hadn't 331 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: played in a while, but you know, I was able 332 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: to kind of get in a situation where I was 333 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: able to make you know, some decent plays and some 334 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: decent throws. Um, you know, hopefully he can just build 335 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: on some things there as we move forward. Yeah. Do 336 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: you think getting into rhythm of sorts in the second 337 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: half is going to help him moving forward? Yeah, I'd 338 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: say it's kind of week to week game the game, 339 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: so kind of what happened in that game doesn't necessarily 340 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: mean it's going to translate over. So, but the idea 341 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: is to when you start over to get your team 342 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: in the offense in a better position from the get go, 343 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: you know. So the sooner we can do that, you know, 344 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the better off and we'll be as a team. Nick 345 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: one thing that he said to us kind of stood 346 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: out to me, and I've thought about this kind of overnight. 347 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: He talked about we were asking about Jaye the Petrie. 348 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: He felt like Jaylen, you know, obviously had the interception 349 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: that's taken away from the DPI, but it feel like, Okay, 350 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: that's the Jayla we've been watching and you talked about, Yeah, 351 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: we moved him over the free safety. How do you 352 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: think that moves really help Jalen and kind of break 353 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: out his skills a little bit more. Yeah, it's interesting 354 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: just when you watch the development of players, so kind 355 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: of break it up in a block, so first part 356 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: of the year four to six games and then them 357 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of middle of the part of the year, and 358 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: we're kind of getting towards the end here. So I 359 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: think every player is going to kind of go through 360 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: some ups and downs, whether they're a young or old. Um. 361 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I think there's some things early in the season, specifically 362 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Jaalen he did fairly well. You know, Chicago game is 363 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: probably one of his better games. Kind of going back 364 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: and look at some of the things he did in 365 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: that game, kind of had a rough patch here in 366 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: the middle, but it just really worked really hard. It's 367 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: had a good attitude and made some modifications and adjustments. 368 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, Joe and Ben have done a really good 369 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: job with him, and I think Jalen stayed engaged and 370 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: he played one of his better games there the other day. 371 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: Played fast, played instinctive, was a round the ball, got 372 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: his hands in the ball. So those are things that 373 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you like to see individually. So we just have to 374 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: see if we can kind of transfer that collectively to 375 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the overall team. But I'd say he's been pretty consistent 376 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: with his attitude and approach, and he's kind of put 377 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: himself in a position to kind of self correct and 378 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: get some things figured out. So it's a credited hit 379 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: to his I would say sticktuitiveness and mental toughness and 380 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: just his willingness to take coaching and improve. So hopefully 381 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: we can you know, an example of something that maybe 382 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: we can build on collectively, sort of along those lines. 383 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: In total, Nick, when you look at a season like this, 384 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: the individuals involved, the players involved, how they handle the 385 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: ebb and flow of what's going on. How does that 386 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: factor into how you evaluate them moving forward on this team, 387 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: ending it on every team? Really, yeah, it's a really 388 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: big part of it. So there's individual improvement. Individual improvement 389 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: hopefully leads a collective improvement. Collect improvement lead a team improvement. 390 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: So I think you're looking at on a larger scale. 391 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: But the reality is everybody has a job to do. 392 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: We all have responsibility. It's everybody's responsibility to stay engage 393 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: week to week, regardless of the circumstances. So this week 394 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: is a new challenge, a new opponent, So we got 395 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: to do everything we can. We gotta put everything we 396 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: can into this week and to get ready for this game. 397 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: We can't worry about what's happened the previous eleven games 398 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it's been. So we have to fast forward, 399 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: flip the page here a little bit and just get 400 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: ready for the next team. And it'll be the same thing, 401 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, once we get through a Cleveland game, parent 402 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: for the next opponent. But I think focusing on your 403 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: individual improvement, are you doing things? Are you doing things 404 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: individually on a week to week basis to make yourself 405 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: the best football player possible and to put yourself in 406 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: the best position. I'd say how those players handle that 407 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: and their attitude and their approach. I mean that's certainly 408 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: important because it's you know, maybe you don't see the 409 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: results right away, but it's something that you can potentially 410 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: build on for you know, for the future. Nick, I 411 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: know it's in the river mirror a little bit, But 412 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about two a tongue of viola. 413 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: If you don't mind the first couple of years struggles. 414 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: This year you watch him and he looked like a 415 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: different guy. Is there something in there as far as 416 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: like from your position, when you see a player that 417 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: might struggle for a year or two to say, hey, 418 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: look what Tua did, or hey I was around this 419 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: guy and look what he was able to do and 420 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: this is how he did it. Is there anything there 421 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: with from that perspective, the fact that Tua has shown 422 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: the approach improven over the last three years that since 423 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: he's been in a league. Yeah, it's interesting to go 424 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: back and look at him. Some of what happened maybe 425 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: the first two years in terms of struggles maybe got 426 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: magnified or like that was kind of the narrative that 427 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: was painting because for moments where he actually did some 428 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: decent things. Want to say, going back to the Kansas 429 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: City game, there was a game there that he played 430 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: it really well. They played well as a team. So 431 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a good example of all right, new year, 432 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: new season. Okay, let's go back and figure out what 433 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: you're capable of. In realizing you're in this position for 434 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: a reason. You were the fifth pick and a draft 435 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: for a reason because you were well thought of, you're 436 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: a talented player, And I think this is what players 437 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: go through each year is going to kind of be different. 438 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Then they kind of figure out what works, and it's 439 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: a combination of everything that's around you. It's just not 440 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: about you as a player. It's about the team, it's 441 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: about the staff, it's about the offense, how you put 442 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: it all together collectively. So really it's a credit to him, 443 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: and it's a credit to what Miami has done. And 444 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're looking at it saying we want to 445 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: be able to maintain this over the next five games 446 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: or six games whatever they have remaining. So they've done 447 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: a nice job. He's done a nice job, and you know, 448 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately we saw that on Sunday. Nick, what's your perspective 449 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: on why it's more difficult to run the football right now? 450 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: Last couple of games, it just hasn't been there. I know, 451 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: you fall behind and that factors and do it as well. Yeah, 452 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. The defenses have done a 453 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: decent job of kind of how they've played. We just 454 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: need to do a better job with our individual execution, 455 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, as an overall, I would say everybody involved 456 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: in that. So just have to find a way to 457 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: run a football. Find what works, you know, look at 458 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: the defense, what are some of the things that maybe 459 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: we can do that they're doing, or that we can 460 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of build on or kind of, you know, not exploit, 461 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: but that's what you're really trying to do. So you 462 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: have not having success early on in the game, and 463 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: then the game kind of got out of hand and 464 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: then you kind of have to switch gears there a 465 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: little bit. So you know, it all fits together. You know, 466 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: as an offense, you gotta be able to run a ball. 467 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes the pass sets up the run, the run steps 468 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: up the pass. It all has to work together and 469 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: fit together. So we just got to find some solutions 470 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: and find ways to to run a football a little 471 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: bit better. We've shown it at times. We just have 472 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: to do it a little bit more consistently here and 473 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: moving forward. Speaking of running the football, this team coming 474 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: in on Sunday can run the football pretty well. And 475 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: we faced them in eighteen, twenty and twenty one. Am 476 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: all right. We've missed them in nineteen, so we've faced 477 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: them three to the last four years. But it feels 478 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: like it's a totally different team, including who's gonna play 479 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback. It's kind of report the Browns. What do 480 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: you see from them? Team is four and seven right now. 481 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: Got a big win against the Bucks with that one 482 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: handed catch by in Joekun what an athlete he is. 483 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: But you're just gonna report on the Browns, Nick, Yeah, 484 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: really talented team. I think Kevin's a really good coach. 485 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: He has been this league a long time. I think 486 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: he has a good grasp or game planning and personnel. 487 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: So he's the head coach. I know Alex is the 488 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I think Kevin and Alex kind of you know, 489 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: they're they're involved together there. But I mean good offensive line, 490 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: really good offensive line, and made a number of investments 491 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: in that group, both in the draft and for agency. 492 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, two to best backs combination there in the league. 493 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Chubbs is good of a backers there's in 494 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: the league. He's really a multipurpose back, three down back. 495 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: He's really hard to tackle. He's got good instincts, he's 496 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: got good vision. And there's an example of a guy 497 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, had some injuries, significant injuries coming out, but 498 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: that hadn't been an issue since he's been in the league. 499 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: So really hard to tackle, really good strength, really good balance, 500 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: really good instincts. And then Hunt kind of spells him 501 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: there a little bit. So um, good offensive line, good backs, 502 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, good tight ends, you know, good skill group. 503 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: Let's say DPJ is kind of an emerging young player. 504 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Um Amari's a really skilled player, very talented. He's big, 505 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: he's fast, he's a good route runner, he's instinctive, you know, 506 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: and they got a good quarterback. I mean, I think 507 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: the expectation is that Deshawn's going to go in there 508 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: and play well for their offense, and I think they're 509 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: going to kind of straight stay true to who they 510 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: are in terms of what they believe in. M and 511 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: a coach. Callahan's a really good offensive line coach. I mean, 512 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: he's very well respected. It's done a good job. And 513 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: then defensively, I'd say they have some explosive players. Um 514 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Garrett's probably as good of an edge player as there 515 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: is in the league. He's just kind of has a 516 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: very unique playing style for as big as he is 517 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: and as strong as he is, he's equally athletic, so 518 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: he presents a lot of problems. Um j ok, He's 519 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: got a lot of you know, presents a lot of 520 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: problems at a second level. Very fast, explosive, and their 521 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: secondary I think is played better. Um you know, words 522 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: a really good cover player. They rewarded him with a 523 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: contract extension here I when I say it was last 524 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: year recently and a guy that's really played better relative 525 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: last year. He's been on the field every Snapps Delpo. 526 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's a guy kind of injured coming in 527 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: the league, didn't play that much, and he's really I 528 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: mean him and Johnson have been on a field for 529 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: ninety nine whatever percent of the snap, So they're very skilled. 530 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: I would say as an overall team, you are good 531 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: in a kicking game. You know, Coach prefer is a 532 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: very well respected kicking game coach. So I think they're 533 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: four and seven, but they're probably a better team than 534 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the record indicates. But this is an example of you know, 535 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: each week and you really don't know what to expect. 536 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: So they've been in some close games. They've kind of 537 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: ended up, you know, on the l side of the 538 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: column there a little bit. But you know, we have 539 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: we're preparing to face a really good team because that's 540 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: what they put on tape. We were asking Lovey about 541 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: it with Watson coming in, how much Texans tape do 542 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: you look at to evaluate how it might look with 543 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: him under setter on that particular team, because they haven't 544 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: really seen it other than preseason. Yeah, I mean, you 545 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: have to as you go through preparing for an opponent, 546 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: you look at the individual player and his skill set 547 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and his strengths, what does he do well, and then 548 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: you have to look at it within the context of 549 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively. So he played a little bit 550 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: in the preseason, So again the preseason is fairly vanilla. 551 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: But I would say the core of their offense, I 552 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's drastically going to change. They may have 553 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: a few things that are specific to, you know, maybe 554 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: what he does. But Jacobe did a good job and 555 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: think in these eleven games that he played, probably played 556 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: as well as he's played, you know, different points of 557 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: his career. So I think the core of the offense 558 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: and what they do, they might have a few things 559 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: that are specific to what he does well. So I 560 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: think that's kind of how you pre prepare for the Browns. 561 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Prepare for what they do offensively, Prepare for Kevin and 562 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: Alex kind of philosophically what they believe in, and then 563 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: look at the individual player and their skills and kind 564 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: of how that fits within the context of what they're doing, 565 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, offensively. Nick, what do you see with Miles 566 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: this year? Miles Garrett from the time he left A 567 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: and M. I mean, it's just an incredible athlete, but 568 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: it felt like his game needed refinement. It feels like 569 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: each year he's kind of adding to that. What have 570 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: you seen this year from him? Yeah, he's he's very instinctive, 571 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: and he's hard to block, and he doesn't give you 572 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: a lot of surface area to hit, so in past 573 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: protects so even if you allocate resources to him, which 574 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: you've seen that, teams try to allocate resource to players 575 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: on the edge, and they are cognizant of that, so 576 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: they find ways to counter that a little bit. So 577 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: he's a problem on the edge. Sometimes they reduced them 578 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: down as a three technique. I think his length and 579 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: his athleticism and his lower body flexibility and his ability 580 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: to kind of get his body low makes them hard 581 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: to block. And he's very fast, he's powerful, and he's explosive, 582 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: so and he has a length. So when you put 583 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: all that together, I'd say probably coming on A and M, 584 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: he was a little bit more athlete than football player. 585 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: But this guy's a damn good football player and he 586 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: presents a lot of problems on the front. I mean, 587 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: he's on the one side and JD's on the other side, 588 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: so you have two good edge players. So we've talked 589 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot about the inside players over the last sever 590 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: many weeks. Kind of Miami had some good edge players, 591 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: some good inside players, Say Cleveland, you know, their strength 592 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: is probably on the edge of the defense. They have some, 593 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, pretty good players inside, But Garrett and j 594 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: D on the outside kind of presents a little bit 595 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: different dynamic. Nick with you and your staff, how much 596 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: evaluation of prospective free agents do you do this time 597 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: of year? Dude, do it on the fly or wait 598 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: till everything's in the barn. So you know that's it's 599 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: a good observation when we go through an advanced team. 600 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: So we essentially we write all players on a fifty 601 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: three man roster, and then we include the practice squad 602 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: players as well. Just a blurb about that, but we 603 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: know going in there's a way our system kind of 604 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: marks the players that are going to be free agents 605 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: for the following year. So part of my process is 606 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: when I go through our team, kind of color code 607 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: who are going to be the upcoming unrestricted and restricted 608 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: free agents, so that you're kind of doing the work, 609 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: you're focused on the team but you're doing work in 610 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: advance as well. So once a season is over, then 611 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: you start to get into free agency, you go back 612 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: and kind of check your notes and then cross reference 613 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: what did I think, What did we think as a staff? 614 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: All right, how does that player fit within the scheme 615 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do. So you're kind of 616 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: balancing off both. I think it's definitely a part of 617 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: the equation, part of the evaluation. Here. What you don't 618 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: want to do is let's wait till the end of 619 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: the season. All right, we gotta go back and do 620 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of extra work. So you can do a 621 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: lot of work ahead of time while you're preparing for 622 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the opponent, whether it's to make a thirty five forty 623 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: play cut up so that you have it there. So 624 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: all right, we need to watch tay. Let's go back, 625 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: let's watch this player as a group. So there's things 626 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: that we're doing proactively as a department to try to 627 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: stay ahead of that. We know who the twenty three 628 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: free agents are going to be. You might have some 629 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: moves one offs here. At the end of the year, 630 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: player gets signed into a one year deal, he goes 631 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: into that pool. But buying large said, say, eighty five 632 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: nine of the players. We know who the free agents 633 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: are going to be in twenty twenty three, so it's 634 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: not the primary focus, but we're preparing for that certainly 635 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: in advance. Nick Mark sort stole my question some sense 636 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: because I was gonna ask you about the college prospects 637 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: and scouting. Yes, always he didn't ask about that, but 638 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's probably a similar answer. As 639 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: I was listening, I was like, I bet that's probably 640 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: the way you look at it. But I always think 641 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: about this as in your role, as you're watching college 642 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: prospects and you're looking at a player, how much are 643 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: you looking at him as the player itself and on 644 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: the other side, how much would he fit for us? 645 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: How much do you kind of split between those two 646 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: as you're watching him or is that just a process 647 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: that evolves that I'm going to scout the player and 648 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: then as we get into and we see free agents 649 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: come and go, Okay, maybe we have a bigger need 650 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: for this player. We think he can fit this need, 651 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: and then you evaluate it from that perspective. How do 652 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: you kind of look at that? Yeah, no, it's you 653 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: really have to do both. So again, not to cross 654 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: pollinate too much, but free agent group, what's just supplying 655 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 1: demand in that area? As we're working through the draft process, 656 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: what's just supplying demand in that area. Not that the 657 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: board is set, but you're starting to populate the board 658 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: and put players in certain blocks in certain areas. So 659 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: there may be more of a certain player in this 660 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: category and less in this category. All right, how do 661 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: we acquire and add that player to the team. Those 662 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: are more I would say big picture items. They're in 663 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the back of your mind, but you're kind of balancing 664 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: off the two. So just a lot of our process, 665 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: what our scouts do. They're really focusing on everybody. You know, 666 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I know everybody when you're at a game or a 667 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: team was at a game, it's well, so like this 668 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: team was at a game, so they automatically assume you're 669 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: watching this player. Typically that's not the case. So you know, 670 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: I went down to Mammi Pittsburgh the other night. You know, 671 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: everybody's like, well, who you here watching? Yeah, I'm here 672 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: watching everybody. Because I think you want to have an 673 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: understanding of kind of top to bottom process. So it's 674 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: kind of you incrementally build as you go. Once you 675 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: get to the season. I think one of the things 676 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: that we're starting to see December sixteenth, you're going to 677 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: start to see someone your classmen submit their names, ask 678 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: for evaluation whether or not they should declare, whether or 679 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: not they should go back to school. We've probably done 680 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of those players that they are a player 681 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: that we don't know. We might give that information to 682 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: the scouts. Hey, it took a look at so and so, 683 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on him. We're not a round 684 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: based team. We don't necessarily great for rounds. So, but 685 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: we got to provide some information to the league so 686 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: then the player can make a decision. So we're doing 687 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: all the above. John, to your question, it's not are 688 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: the point of finality. There's going to be all right. 689 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Once we get to that next stage, then you drill 690 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: down a little bit more into the specifics of what 691 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: you're doing. Positionally, what about guys who get hurt? Because 692 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: I see players getting injured who might be draftable, then 693 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: you're thinking, well do we take them? Are they going 694 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: to be able to recover? How do you look at that? Yeah, 695 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: players have to make a decision whether or not they 696 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: want to go back to school. If they have exhaust 697 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: their eligibility or not. The medical evaluation will be a 698 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: part of it. I think part of the medical evaluation 699 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: is what's the expectation for recovery. Do we think that player, 700 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: based on his injury, is going to be healthy at 701 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: some point and is there some risk or concern. I'd 702 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: say the medical discussions those are a little bit more 703 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: February March, April, because you have a few more checks 704 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: and balances there. So the first step will be they 705 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: go to the combine, so you have all the teams there, 706 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: medical checks, here's his history, here's an update. March. When 707 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: you start some of the visits in the pro days, 708 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to bring those players into your building. 709 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: We'll do a medical follow up in research. Here's what 710 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: our doctors think, here's the prognosis, and here's what we 711 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: think about his recovery. So the medical probably takes the 712 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: longest mark, but it doesn't necessarily eliminate a player. You 713 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: just kind of have to take the information understanding what 714 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: his situation is, and then once you get to the 715 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: end point, either comfortable or not comfortable with the players situation. Nick, 716 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is the case, having with the 717 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Patriots so many years and how successful they were. But 718 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: have you ever been part of a staff that was 719 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl coaching the players at the Senior Bowl? 720 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: How valuable would that end up being if that opportunity 721 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: is afforded to you. Yeah, we have none or I 722 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: have not. Personally, there's certainly some merit to that. It 723 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: would have enables you to do just to spend more 724 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: one on one interaction meeting to practice field how they 725 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: take coaching. So there's opportunities for that that I think 726 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the Jets had either last year or the year before. 727 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: So I think each staff, each team is a little 728 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: bit different. So I think anytime you have a situation 729 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: to evaluate a player in sort of a different environment, 730 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be beneficial. And what that does is 731 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: it kind of cross checks the information you have in 732 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: your system. Here's the information you're getting from the school. Well, 733 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: if you see something firsthand doesn't match up, does it 734 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: corroborate what you've been given or is there a little 735 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: bit of a mismatch, And then that says to you 736 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe we should go back and take another look at 737 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: the player. Nick. Over the years, we talked a lot 738 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: about this a little bit. But over the years, the 739 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: NFL has increased singly had them significant you know weekends 740 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: or months, you know cancer awareness, you recognize the military November. 741 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: But this opportunity for my cause, my cleats opens up 742 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: what you just talked about, the players, the staff, to 743 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: people around the game to tell their story in a 744 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: different way. How important is that for the for the 745 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: fans to kind of see beyond the helmet in some 746 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: sense of the players. No, it's it's it's a great opportunity. 747 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: In the end, we're people first. Like where athletes, they're athletes. 748 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: We work in football, we work in sport. But once 749 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: you get outside of sports, everybody has something in their 750 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: life or a way that they've been impacted. And it 751 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of heightened this as an opportunity to heighten awareness 752 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: to maybe a topic that people aren't as knowledgeable about. 753 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: And it's an opportunity for players to kind of put 754 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: that out there and the open and see, you know, 755 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: really what you're about, what's important to you, and it, 756 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: let's say, humanizes the athlete to a degree, and I 757 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: think that's important to be able to do. So. Look, 758 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: our job is to win football game. So like nobody's 759 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: going to dispute that, but once you take it out 760 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: of that context, be able to see what's important, how 761 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: you've been impacted on a personal level, what it means 762 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to you, and just to heighten overall, wearens to a 763 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: topic and educate people. It's a great opportunity to do 764 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: so in the league is kind of presented different platforms 765 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: and provided provided opportunities for players and people in sport 766 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So I think it's 767 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: a great example. It's a great opportunity of trying to 768 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: do the right thing and just try to help people 769 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: as much as possible. Nick, I have a very important question. 770 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Where do the holiday decorations go up at the household? Is? 771 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: How does that? We've started some of that. We have 772 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: a few lights that are on the outside of the house. 773 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: We haven't spent like a lot of people in sustain 774 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: I've realized that put a lot of money into this. 775 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: We haven't quite done that yet. But we have our 776 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: tree um that's up. We haven't decorated that yet, so 777 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: we're getting i'd say incrementally closer. There's still work to 778 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: be done, but you know, the holidays are right around 779 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the corner, no question, are you allowed to put the 780 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: lights up where you just allowed to do the big 781 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: things like get the tree up and go from there. 782 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: I'm useless when it comes to Pride finding lights up. 783 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: You say, my wife won't let me anywhere near him, 784 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: and she won't let me touch anything. I put mine up, 785 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: but it looks like I did. Nick, Thanks a lot 786 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: for joining us. Good luck this week. Thanks guys, No, 787 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: thank you, Nick. Appreciate you hopping on the show as 788 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: you do every single week. We really appreciate those exclusive 789 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: interviews right here. I know that he goes on probably 790 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: about once a month, what's every six weeks on with 791 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: the guys that Sports Radio six ten, But he comes 792 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: on with us every single week. We love it. I 793 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Nick, no doubt. All right, let's get two 794 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: on the other side, a little trip around the NFL. 795 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Some things that are going on, including the injury report 796 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: from Wednesday. What can we expect? Unfortunately, a rookie is 797 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: still dealing with a hamstring injury. You'll do that next. 798 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: Right here, I'll Texas All Access welcome back this Wednesday. 799 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: They should have Texas All Access from the Honday Texans 800 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris football Ana, a 801 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: sideline reporter, it's time for the Schlumberge Stats Challenge. For 802 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: more on the Schlumberge Stats Challenge to Houston Texans dot com. 803 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: And your stat today actually is it's a pretty easy number. 804 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: It's seven hundred seven zero zero, seven hundred, seven hundred 805 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: days between DeShawn Watson's last game that he played regular 806 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: season game, which was on January third, twenty twenty one, 807 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: ending the twenty twenty season, and is next game will 808 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: be December fourth, this Sunday, twenty twenty two. So he's 809 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: been off for seven hundred days. And so there's a 810 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: lot of talk about rust and you know what's gonna 811 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: happen rust. I actually think you'll see more rusting games 812 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: two and three than you will in Game one. I 813 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: think Deshaun will do some runnings, some scrambling, and that 814 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: will get him some confidence to buy some extra downs. 815 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: We always know that Deshaun was able to do that 816 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: here in Houston. And so I'm I've been trying to 817 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: figure out and I'll talk to Mark about this in 818 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: the next hour, how to what's the like, what's the feel? 819 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: Because I've been thinking about this in those seven hundred days. 820 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: A lot has happened, But a lot of the guys 821 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: on this team never played with the Sean. Now, they 822 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: were here for training camp last year and the season 823 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: last year, and he was around to do his thing, 824 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: but he wasn't around the team much outside of training camp, 825 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: if at all, so they don't really know him. Laramie, Titus, 826 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. That's it. It's the only three that played 827 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: with him at twenty twenty. On the defensive side, it's 828 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: only John Grennard. So it's not as if the defensive 829 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: guys got an axe to grind in some sense, because oh, 830 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: well he got away with this in practice and he 831 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: did dust this jo that would be another one. And 832 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much it. It's only five or six 833 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: guys position players left from twenty twenty. That's just two 834 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: years ago. So it's not as if he's got this 835 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: long standing reputation. I guess here with these guys, so 836 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But I'm curious to see 837 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: what he's got. So he's Cleveland brown Now he's the enemy, 838 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: and it's time to go get a win against the 839 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Now, let's take a look at the injury report. 840 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: One major thing that has happened continues to happen, and 841 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: so talking about the Texas, a lot of guys getting 842 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: a wrest are personal day. Mario Addison, Brandy Cooks, Jerry 843 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: Hughes all getting a rest day on Wednesday. Ausideculous was 844 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: out today as well. He was dealing with a personal issue, 845 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: so he was out for that. Blee Collins did not participate. 846 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: Deal with that chest. I'll tell you this. If his 847 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: chest is still hurting and he's playing the way that 848 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: he did, my goodness, I hope your chest is bad. 849 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: Every week Malik and Black Cashman deal with knee. So 850 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: those were all DMPs, and finally a DMP was Derek 851 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Stingley's junior deal with that hamstring, as Levy Smith is 852 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: characterized at a mild hamstring, hoping to see him back 853 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: at some point, but he was in warm ups and 854 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: T shirts today. Limited participants. Kenny Green was ill, so 855 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: he's only able to participate a little bit. In Christian 856 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Harris with that shoulder that he banged up down in Miami. 857 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: Now the brown Side, you had a number of vets 858 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: getting their rest day. Patonio, Joe Petonio, Nick Chubbwan Clowne, 859 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: and Mary Cooper, Miles Garrett all rest days for the Vets. 860 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: David and Joku tight end dealing with the knee. He 861 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: made that great one handed catch in the end zone 862 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: to tie the game and send it into overtime against 863 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Buccaneers last week. He's dealing with the knee. He 864 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: did not participate. A j Greene was a limited participant. 865 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: He's in a concussion protocol. Greg Knwsom missed I think 866 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of games dealing with a concussion corner 867 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: first round draft pick a couple of years ago, and 868 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: Denzil Warred dealing with the ankle. They were all limited. 869 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: And Ronnie Harrison was back today, formerly of the Albam. 870 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: Cripson tied now at Cleveland Browns. He's dealing with the shoulder, 871 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: but he was back a full participants in practice. So 872 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: that is your injury report for Wednesday's practice out there 873 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: as well. Now, speaking of injuries, let's go around the league. 874 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: Here the rams of the Seahawks. I did a double 875 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: take today because Mike, it's Wednesday, and I was like, man, 876 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: the Bills were playing at Patriots on Thursday. But then 877 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: here's Sean McVay saying that Aaron Donald is gonna miss 878 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: a game against the Seahawks. I was like, wait a second. 879 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: He announced that on Wednesday. He's out, man, that's strange. 880 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: They played on Thursday. That I messed that up. No, No, 881 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: the Bills and Patriots do play on Thursday, and the 882 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks and Rams do play on Sunday. But Sean McVay 883 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: was getting ahead of it that Aaron Donald will miss 884 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: his first game due to injury in his career. Now, 885 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald got a league in twenty fourteen. He missed 886 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: one other game and that had to do the contract dispute. 887 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, he missed Week one because of that 888 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: contract dispute, and then he rested in week seventeen. We've 889 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: seen that before. Here was the players in the Texas 890 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: when they were in the playoff hunt in that game 891 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: in eighteen and nineteen didn't matter against the Tennessee Titans. 892 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: That's it. Donald suffered injury in the loss to the 893 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. It'll be the first time his nine 894 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: year career he's missing a game for injury. That's unbelievable 895 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: when you think about all that, all that guy that 896 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: sees double teams, triple teams, all the different you know, 897 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: cut blocks, chop blocks, everything he's missed. This will be 898 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: the first time in nine years and it's not a 899 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: ram season that's going well at all. But it gives 900 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: worse Aaron Donald out speaking of going bad to worse. 901 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been dealing with a wrist hand issue 902 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers and then he got a 903 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: rib injury the other night against the Phildelphi Eagles. Said 904 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of hard to breathe, so he came 905 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: out of the game. George Love went in, looked very 906 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: very good. But fret Nott Packers fans, your leader, Aaron 907 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers is back well, apparently, Hayd Couch Matt Laflour was 908 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: asked on Wednesday if Rogers is going to give it 909 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: a shot in Week thirteen against the team that he 910 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: claims he owns, the Chicago Bears, and Lafleur said yes, 911 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: he didn't expand he didn't elaborate. Rodgers didn't practice on Wednesday, 912 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: but Laflour told reporters he does expect his quarterback to 913 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: practice this week at some point. So Aaron Rodgers apparently 914 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: going to be back against the Bears. I mean, I'll 915 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: say this, if I'm a Packers fan at this point, 916 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I want to see Jordan Love. The season's down, a 917 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: crapper man. Let's see what you got in Jordan Love 918 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: and see what that Mike could do to the future 919 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: of the Packers, whether that's going forward with Rogers and 920 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: maybe trading Jordan Love or staying with Jordan Love and 921 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: trading Aaron Rodgers. I don't know. There's a lot of 922 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: things that need to be figured out for the Green 923 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, but apparently Aaron Donald will not be there 924 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: for the Rams, but Aaron Rodgers will be there for 925 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: the Packers at least that's the way we see it 926 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: right now. All right, we get back. We've got a 927 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: little men behind him, Mike. Jim Donovan, the voice of 928 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: the Browns, chops up with Mark Vanby. That's next, the 929 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: texts as stig right back into this Wednesday Nation of 930 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Aris Football on 931 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, and we put it one hour down. 932 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: We got one hour left to go. Where kick off 933 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: that second hour with Jim Donovan, the voice of the 934 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. We call men behind the Mikes, Mark vannimir 935 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: Sits chops it up with the great voices throughout the NFL, 936 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: and this week it's the Browns and that means Jim Donovan, 937 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: Mark take it away, all right? John to us right 938 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: now in Texans Radio, Jim Donovan Cleveland Browns play by 939 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: play and answer. Jim, great to have you on. How 940 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: you doing, my friend, I'm doing pretty good. Mark, It's 941 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: spent quite a year here in Cleveland. I can only 942 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: imagine that it's been quite a year, Jim, And maybe 943 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: my imagination only runs so far. So you tell me 944 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: what it's been like, because you make the acquisition, the trade, 945 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: and then you don't really know what's going to happen. 946 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: But then you know you have to wait a while. 947 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: What's it been like seeing this team play, calling these 948 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 1: games week after week and waiting for this week to arrive? 949 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: And I know the Browns have done pretty well in 950 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: some instances, but now as well as you want, yeah, 951 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Well, life change, Mark, as you 952 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: well know for us hear in Cleveland, and I'm sure 953 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: for you guys out in Houston, but it changed for 954 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: us March eighteenth, when the deal was completed, and then 955 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of you know, wonder about how 956 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing was going to play out in the 957 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: way of a suspension, how long was that going to being. 958 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: But while that was going on, I mean, we we're 959 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: watching Deshan Watson participate in all of the OTAs and 960 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: the mini camps, and he looked terrip it and you 961 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: looked out of the field and you went, wow, that's 962 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback. The Browns have been looking for 963 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: it and have been missing. But as camp went along, 964 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: it really kind of intensified through the appeal process. And 965 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: I think originally the Browns had kind of been thinking 966 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: they had a number in their head, it's going to 967 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: be six games. Maybe he can appeal that down to 968 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: four games and we'll be okay, because they looked at 969 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: the top of their schedule and said, yeah, not so 970 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: tough those first four games on our schedule. We'll be 971 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: able to navigate with Jacoby Brissette. But reality hit when 972 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: it really came down and it was eleven games, and 973 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: really everything changed at that point in time because he 974 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: wasn't going to appear and play until December, and Jacoby 975 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: Bricette was going to quarterback the team, and although everybody said, 976 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're really confident in Jacoby Brissette, it was 977 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: really other areas of the team that were expected to 978 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: be strong that have kind of let them down. Their 979 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: defense has not played at the level that they thought 980 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: it was going to play that In fact, it's been 981 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: way below that. They've had a lot of problems on 982 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: special teams and that's where they got to four and seven, 983 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: and I've got themselves, you know, in a big hole 984 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: right now. Well, yeah, I've got a lot of questions 985 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: about the defense because our old friend Jadeveon Clowney is 986 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: over there on that side of the ball. But how 987 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: do you expect, if at all, the offense to change 988 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: with Watson in there? Besides his playmaking ability off script, 989 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: what about the scheme itself? Jim, what are you thinking? Yeah? 990 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I've I really think that 991 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: what they're looking for and hoping, you know, that he'll 992 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: be able to do when he really rolls off all 993 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: the russ that there has to be mark you know 994 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: where it's been so long as you well know, since 995 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: he last played. But I think once he gets into that, 996 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: I think they're looking for and gonna lean on the 997 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: fact that he can be so dynamic. You know, Burssette 998 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: was very very methodical, played within the system, but there 999 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: wasn't that ability really late in games until last week 1000 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay to really make big plays or carry 1001 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: the team on a game winning drive to win the 1002 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: football game. And they were in a number of those 1003 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: scenarios and they just weren't able to do it. Overall, 1004 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: he played very well, but there was really kind of 1005 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: a Neander's ball approach to the way the offense kind 1006 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: of plotted its way down the field. I think they 1007 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: feel it's gonna you know, the speed of the offense 1008 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: is going to accelerate with Deshaun Watson. I think that 1009 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: they feel he's going to make the receiver tight end 1010 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: David and Joku, Amari Cooper, Donovan Peoples, Jones, that he's 1011 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: going to improve their game because of his ability to 1012 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball and then the other dimension, his ability 1013 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 1: to make place with his legs. Added to Nick Chubb 1014 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: and Kareem Hutton, you know, when it's healthy a really 1015 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: good offensive line. I don't think the scheme is going 1016 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: to change at all, because it looked as though it 1017 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: was very good with him. It was a good marriage 1018 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: as he was through the summer and got a lot 1019 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: of reps. I just think they feel that there's gonna 1020 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: be the ability to have explosive plays with him at 1021 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: the front end of those plays. Jim Jonovan, voice of 1022 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, joining us on Texans Radio. All Right, 1023 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Baker Mayfield because I 1024 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: know that's in the rear view mirror, But you did 1025 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: have the one playoff victory since the Browns came back 1026 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: into the league with him quarterbacking against Pittsburgh twenty twenty playoffs. 1027 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: What went wrong with him? Number one pick in the draft. 1028 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: Things looked like they were going pretty well. What in 1029 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: your estimation, Jim, went wrong with Baker? I think that 1030 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: what happened with Baker was there was kind of a 1031 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: physical problem in that, you know, he really wasn't a 1032 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: big kid. He wasn't tall mark, I mean, he was 1033 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 1: kind of a smallish height wise quarterback. That was always 1034 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of a hurdle that he had to get over. 1035 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: So really his game became kind of a bootleg game 1036 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: where he really are you always had to roll him 1037 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: out because in the pocket he really literally physically could 1038 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: not see over offensive defensive linemen, and that became a problem. 1039 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: So I think teams picked up as to what his 1040 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 1: game was all about, the bootleg game, roll him out, 1041 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: trying to get him a throwing lane and give him 1042 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: some vision, clear vision down down the field. But I 1043 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: also think, you know, there's an abrasive, fiery personality that 1044 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: when it's fiery in the right way, it really worked. 1045 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: As you alluded to the year they went to the playoffs, 1046 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: when it doesn't work really kind of blows up, and 1047 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: it really blew up, and it blew up. Last year 1048 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: there was the situation with Odell Beckham junior where he 1049 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: was upset that he wasn't getting the football, and there 1050 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: was this infamous tape that was produced by Obj's dad, 1051 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, showing examples of how Obj was wide open 1052 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: and Mayfield couldn't get him the ball, and that really 1053 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: blew up inside the locker room because Beckham was a 1054 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: very popular team may and when that when there had 1055 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: to be a divorce, a parting of the ways there, 1056 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys sided with Beckham rather 1057 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: than Mayfield, and that became a wider rift as the 1058 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: year went along. And last year was you know, he 1059 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: was playing hurt throughout the entire season. In fact, I 1060 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: think it was the Texans game that he got hurt 1061 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: in last year when he hurt the shoulder initially, And 1062 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: you know, it was every week was he going to play? 1063 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: And there were a lot of people that thought he 1064 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing, that they maybe should rest to play 1065 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: case Keenham. I mayfield a couple of weeks to get 1066 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: that thing at least settled down, but he would always 1067 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: play the scenario that he wanted to play. He was 1068 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: going to make the decision to play. By the end 1069 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: of the year. I think the coaching staff was burned 1070 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: out on him, and I think he was burned out 1071 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: on them. Jim Donovan, Boys of the Cleveland Browns, joining 1072 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: us on Texans Radio. I mentioned Clowney. You look at 1073 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett the other defensive end. There's some good, big 1074 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: names on this defense. So what are some of the 1075 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: issues they're having on that side of the football, Jim, 1076 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: the in between those two guys, Mark, that's the problem. 1077 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: The interior of that defensive line, the defensive tackle position. 1078 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: They really didn't go out and get big time free 1079 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: agents to play inside there. Instead, they had kind of 1080 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: a couple of developmental players who they had drafted who 1081 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: have not really matured to the level of being able 1082 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: to handle that. And I think teams are going or 1083 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: right up the middle on them and challenging them with 1084 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: their running games. I mean teams that really came into 1085 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: games against the Browns that were struggling running the football, 1086 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: walk out at the end of the afternoon of the 1087 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: game against the Browns and say, we just had our 1088 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: best day ever. You know, Miami Buffalo, you know, the Jets. 1089 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: Other teams really kind of said, you know, we'll stay 1090 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: away from Garrett and Clowney, let's run the ball, and 1091 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: we're going to run and right at them. And that's 1092 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: been a problem for them. It's it's not Clowney, it's 1093 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: not Garrett. It is really right through the middle. And 1094 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: even the Browns kind of chose this kind of new 1095 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: hybrid way of playing at the linebacker position with lighter, 1096 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: faster linebackers, and those guys have not been able to 1097 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: handle the muscle the teams have thrown at them with 1098 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: their running games. Jim, the Browns have played the Dolphins, 1099 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: they played the Bills, among others. Obviously, just beat the Bucks. 1100 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: Who's the best team you've played so far, the best 1101 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: team the Browns have seen so far this year. I 1102 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: would have to say, Mark, Miami was frightening how good 1103 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: they were, and they did whatever they wanted to do 1104 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: offensively against the Browns that day. They could not handle Tua, 1105 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: they could not handle those receivers, and as I mentioned 1106 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: a moment ago, they even ran the ball very very 1107 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: well that day. That game was basically over by halftime, 1108 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: kind of like you know what you guys saw last 1109 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: week with the Dolphins, I would assume, you know, with 1110 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: a big lead at halftime by Miami. I just thought 1111 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: Miami was really the most impressive team when they played Buffalo. 1112 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: It was kind of in the middle of that Josh 1113 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: Allen period where he was, you know, not playing well, 1114 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: throwing interceptions, missing you know, wide open guys, trying to 1115 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: do too much. And in that ball game that kind 1116 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: of followed suit. You know, the Browns played off of 1117 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: that script two and we're really in that game until 1118 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But the Dolphins game, it was a 1119 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. This was not going to be 1120 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: a good day. We cannot handle these guys. A couple 1121 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: more for you, Jim, all Right, I have great familiarity 1122 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 1: with Butch Davis and I know he coached the team 1123 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: early on in your tenure. You and in ninetynine when 1124 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: the Browns came back in the league with Chris Palmer, 1125 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: who was the first offensive coordinator here in Houston. By 1126 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: the way, but I want to get to this two 1127 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: thousand and two playoffs, Browns make it. They lead Pittsburgh big, 1128 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: and I know the quarterback change within the game and everything. 1129 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: Which is a better Browns team though overall that squad 1130 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: and O two or the twenty twenty Browns. I thought 1131 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Browns, I thought they were really good. Mark. 1132 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: They had a lot going for them. And by now, 1133 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: mind you, by the time they got into the playoffs, 1134 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: they had lost Odell Beckham junior. He had gone out 1135 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: with an acl tare. But they had everything I thought 1136 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: going for them that year. They had a tremendous offensive line, 1137 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb Kareem Hunt were really at the peak of 1138 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: their games. You know, Mayfield was playing with in the 1139 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: offense with a new coaching staff, and they were really 1140 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: doing very good things with him, and they had a 1141 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: good leader offensively and Jarvis Landry, who was a great 1142 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: team guy, and I thought the defense you know, was playing, 1143 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: you know what, a very good level and far different 1144 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: from this year's defense. That defense that year was able 1145 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: to get a lot of turnovers, which really flipped the 1146 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: field a lot of times and got the Browns in 1147 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 1: great position to take care of things offensively, whereas this 1148 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: year's team, if you look, they just don't get turnovers 1149 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 1: for some reason. I mean, they don't get interceptions, they 1150 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: don't get bumbles. They have to get you off the 1151 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: field on third down, which is you know, another difficult 1152 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: situation for them. But I really thought that playoff team 1153 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: in Kevin Stefanski's first year was a really good team. 1154 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: And you know, not only did they beat the Steelers 1155 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: mark in that playoff game at Hines Field, but then 1156 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: the next week they're at Arrowhead Stadium, they're only down 1157 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: by five points. They intercept Patrick Mahomes in the end 1158 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: zone and end up, you know, they've got they've got 1159 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: the ball with like six minutes to go and a 1160 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: chance to go down and win the game and just 1161 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, couldn't get it done. I really thought they 1162 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: were I thought that they were a really good team. 1163 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: And I thought that that team, you know, was gonna 1164 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: build on that, and unfortunately that has not happened. Jim 1165 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: Donovan joining us all right, last one, Jim, I found 1166 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: out before this interview that you and I are both 1167 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,959 Speaker 1: Boston University alums, so we have that in common. Wow. 1168 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 1: So I could meet you at T Anthony's Pizza sometime 1169 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: perhaps and do Yeah, but you never worked in Boston, 1170 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: which is interesting to me. You're from there, but you've 1171 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: been all over the country really doing games. And what 1172 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: a journey that takes you to Cleveland eventually to be 1173 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 1: the voice of the Browns and also work in television 1174 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: and everything. And you've got to be proud of this career. 1175 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on leaving your hometown and working in a 1176 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 1: variety of places. I liked it to being a coach. 1177 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're getting different jobs moving up. How do you 1178 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: look at it? Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. Growing 1179 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: up in Boston and then going to be You and 1180 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 1: Mark I did their hockey games for three years on WTBU, 1181 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: the student station there, and one you know, was able 1182 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: to call the games during those years when they had 1183 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: all of those great Olympic players. They were on the 1184 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: miracle team. Jim Craig, Michael Ruzione, Dave Silk, Jack O'Callahan, 1185 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: and they won the national championship over Boston College nineteen 1186 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: seventy eight. I'll never forget that they won the national 1187 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: titles down in Providence. I always thought, Mark, I always 1188 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: dreamed that I would come back and work at WBZ 1189 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: in Boston, which was the big radio station and television station, 1190 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: and maybe get a crack at I always thought I 1191 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: would be a hockey announcer, yea, that I would hopefully 1192 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: someday come back and be the voice of the Boston Bruins, 1193 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: taking over for the great Fred Cusack and Bob Wilson. 1194 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: But I have to tell you, Cleveland spend a great 1195 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: time for me, A really lucky town. Opened up a 1196 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities for me, and the biggest one and 1197 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: the best one being working and calling the Browns games. Well, Jim, 1198 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you this weekend. Thanks so much 1199 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: of the time, my friend, Mark. Always a pleasure to 1200 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: talk to you. Oh. I love hearing the voices from 1201 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: throughout the league. Jim Donovan of the Cleveland Browns A 1202 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 1: good dude at that, all right, Mark's sinister with me 1203 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: as we get of our gut reactions just seeing Deshaun 1204 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: Watson on Sunday against the Texans after all those years 1205 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: of him being for the Texans. That's the next on 1206 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: Texans Access. It's up everybody. Welcome back to Wednesday edition 1207 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. I am John Harris, your host 1208 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: and gut Mark Vandomer here with me in the Hunted 1209 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. Mark Boy, we got a loaded show tonight, 1210 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil, you got Nick Kisserio. We got a couple 1211 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: of MEMI hand of Mike's interviews coming up. A lot 1212 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: of work being done this week. There's no question for 1213 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns week. So I'm just gonna hit you with 1214 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 1: a sentence. I want your gut reaction. On Sunday, Deshaun 1215 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: Watson is coming back to face his former team, the 1216 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Your gut reaction. My gut reaction is it's 1217 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,240 Speaker 1: major theater in the NFL, and I know the league 1218 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: knew what they were doing. They cannot deny that they 1219 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: knew what they were doing. They might not have been 1220 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: sure this would happen, but they had to know it 1221 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: was a distinct possibility. Otherwise, if you want to keep 1222 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: them away from here, you schedule this game earlier in 1223 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: the season. Oh we we can't, because didn't Blake Jones 1224 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: played quarterback for you in middle school or something. I 1225 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: will give you this story that I was told, at 1226 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: least the half story. I was killed, and that was that. Yes, 1227 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: this game was originally one of the finalist schedules. Apparently 1228 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: had this game and somewhere between week four is that 1229 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: sometime in September? Okay, Then, as he has done to 1230 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: us for years, Tom Brady screwed everything up because Brady 1231 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: came back to the NFL, and that took all those 1232 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: schedules and then to toss them all away and start over. Yea, 1233 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: So all right, first of all, but there's another way 1234 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: to do it. You don't think the league in some 1235 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: way kind of wanted this. I do, But I also 1236 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: know this that they're not big on having the NFL 1237 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: Network here necessarily it all that they're dissing things. They 1238 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: want to just kind of play the game. Yeah, it's 1239 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna be major theater, play the game. It's drama, but 1240 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to make it a super 1241 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 1: Bowl atmosphere. But I know this for a fact. There's 1242 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of extra media coming here. Yes, you know 1243 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: media that doesn't have to address or answer to the 1244 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: NFL right necessarily, they just need to get credentialed. So 1245 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: there's going to be extra attention paid to this game, 1246 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: especially in Cleveland. I think in Cleveland, if you're a 1247 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: TV station that might not normally travel, you might come 1248 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: to this one. So it's not all necessarily national stuff. 1249 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of attention. And I really wish 1250 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: the Texans were playing better, Johnny, I really wish the 1251 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: Texans were better suited to deal with what's coming. The 1252 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: Browns aren't that great. I know they just beat the Bucks. 1253 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: They're not great, but that doesn't mean anything right now 1254 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: in the context of a one nine in one season. 1255 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: I do think there are some yardage possibilities against this team. 1256 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: There's some scoring possibilities, and I know we've talked about 1257 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: it all week long, how the play players don't really 1258 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: have that Well, this is really affecting us historic feeling 1259 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: to this because how many guys were on the team 1260 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,439 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and how many guys have been around 1261 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: the market that long anyway, but there's a ruboff effect here. 1262 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: They're bound to notice and by the time kickoff hits. 1263 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be infused in them. How big this is 1264 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: for the Houston fans to get the job Donn and 1265 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: beat the Browns with Watson. Yeah, I think it's gonna 1266 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: be interesting from that standpoint, Like how I've thought about 1267 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: the reaction. I've thought about what I will feel like 1268 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: watching him walk into the huddle and just all the idiosyncrasies, 1269 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: just the things that he does, like with his shoulder 1270 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: pads and just kind of the things that he does. 1271 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, he do the slime season first down, Like, Yeah, 1272 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna be like when you see that and it's 1273 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: actually going against you in some sense, Like that's gonna 1274 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: be that's gonna be weird and it's gonna be odd. 1275 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 1: And the fact that his last game was obviously here 1276 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: with us at the end of the twenty twenty season 1277 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: in January twenty twenty one. His first game back is 1278 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: in Energy Stadium, So there's a part of me that 1279 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: wishes the game would be in Cleveland because it would 1280 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: be cold and it would be windy, and it would 1281 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: be something that he would have to deal with like 1282 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: he had two in twenty twenty. Yeah. In fact, Keem 1283 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield both had to deal with it in twenty twenty. 1284 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: But I think the other aspect, there are just as 1285 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: many players on the Browns roster that played with him 1286 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty as there are in the Texans roster. Yeah, 1287 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: because you have Clowney there, you actually have more, but 1288 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Clowney played with him at one point. Yeah, but you 1289 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: have Pharaoh Brown there now with the Browns, and you 1290 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: got Brandon Cooks. So if you go back and look 1291 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 1: at the twenty twenty offense, so I'm going through it, 1292 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: you had Laramie, you had Titus, you had those two, 1293 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and you had Cooks. On the Brown's side, you got 1294 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: Pharaoh you talked about Clowney has been over there. So 1295 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: it's it's such a different team from even twenty twenty. 1296 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So defensively, I'm trying to think defensive. I 1297 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: think John Gernard is the only defensive player that in 1298 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. He's a rookie, so he back Jo was here, 1299 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: but that was that's it. Yeah, the only amount of 1300 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 1: players that were actually here during that time when he 1301 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: when he was here, but they hear about it, and 1302 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: then they heard about it, there's no doubt, and they 1303 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: were and a lot of them were here last year 1304 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: when all that was going on during training camp and 1305 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: when he was doing his workouts behind the scenes or 1306 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: whatever it was before his legal situation was cleared up 1307 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: so he could be traded to Cleveland. So there's not 1308 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: quite that that tie in that poll. Like the other day, 1309 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: I was on the I was on the field. Afterwards, 1310 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to go find Kean Crossing in Miami, and 1311 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: there were a number of Dolphins that went and found 1312 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Leremie Tunseil. You know Xavien Howard as a guy that 1313 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: had played with him, and there weren't too many. That 1314 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: was four years ago, right, This is just you know, 1315 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: last year with de Sean. But it just shows you 1316 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: how in this league things change so fast and so quick. 1317 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it used to be John McKay with the 1318 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and a five year plan. It's if 1319 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: you want to walked up and said I got a 1320 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: five year plan for an organization. Now they'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1321 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: you got two and we'll talk in year three. Yeah, 1322 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: that's what you've got. We might be talking at the 1323 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: end of year one, right, it's a year or two 1324 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: midway through it's not that anymore. But here is one. 1325 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: And I know this has to have been brought up, 1326 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: but I didn't hear all of matchup last night. So 1327 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: that's my confession, my not lunch time but evening confession here. 1328 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: But Kyle Allen versus DeShawn Watson, Oh yeah, the only 1329 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: time they've ever met. Alan won the game as a 1330 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Carolina pander against the Houston Texans with DeShawn Watson quarterbacking 1331 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: this franchise. That's kind of interesting. It's an interesting note 1332 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: to all this. Allan is one to oh against DeShawn Watson? 1333 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: How about how about that? How about that? Yeah? I 1334 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 1: don't know that I can go anywhere. That's one of 1335 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the most frustrating losses. I can remember. McCaffrey played in 1336 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the game, right, and he was incredible in that game. Yes, 1337 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: he touched the ball I think forty times. He had 1338 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: that juggling catch on the sideline. And then if you remember, 1339 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: this is the Kyle Allen play. Kyle Allen is dead 1340 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: to rights act by JJ Watt and somehow he ducked 1341 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: underneath him and JJ went over the top of him. 1342 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Alan got out and then ended up making a play 1343 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: like a Tony Romo kind of Yes, it was like 1344 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: a Tony Romo kind of thing. Yeah, well, let's see 1345 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: if you can do that against Miles Garrett and Jadevion Clowney, 1346 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: who has not gotten a lot of talk this week 1347 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 1: so far, and Johnny Connie probably likes it that way. 1348 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: He's playing and I'm not saying he's playing at the 1349 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: level he was when he was awesome in twenty sixteen. 1350 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Say right, but Clowney is capable. Yeah, he's still Clowney. 1351 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: He's capable, He's caution flammable, and this is a game 1352 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: that he will be fired up. Four Are you kidding? 1353 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Watson returning to Houston? He returning to Houston. Well, Clowney 1354 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: spends time here. Drew Dorty saw him a flag football 1355 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: game with their kids, So Clowney is well aware of 1356 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: the situation and he wants to make the most of it. Yeah, 1357 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: there's no doubt I think Clowney being back this is 1358 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: the first time he's played back at Energy Stadium because 1359 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: when he was at the Titans that year, we played 1360 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 1: them up there. But I don't think Clowney played the 1361 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: return matchup here. I could be wrong on that, but 1362 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: that's that's how I remember it. And who's to say, 1363 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: but I gotta feel like Clowney is gonna make his 1364 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: presence known. He still has that club in his bag. 1365 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: He still has that club in his bag, that one 1366 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: that's you know what, Yeah, I got it today. Watch this, Yeah, 1367 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: like he had in twenty eighteen when he went against 1368 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: the filled off Eagles. I'll never forget. I'll then forgetting 1369 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: that twenty eighteen game against the Eagles. Hop doesn't warm 1370 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, oh man, what are we gonna do? 1371 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: And as I'm thinking that, I see Clowney walk up 1372 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: to at the time D line coach Anthony Weaver and 1373 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: he puts his arm out Weave and I just hear 1374 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: him go, all right, we've I'm gonna have a game today. 1375 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: And I mean he just called his shot and then 1376 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: dominated the entire game. Yeah, I mean the year dominated 1377 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: the game in twenty eighteen. Was that the year when 1378 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the Texans went to Jacksonville, Watson on the bus, Watson. 1379 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Clowney completely wrecked the game. Yes, I mean just destroyed 1380 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And he could have you know, it's a 1381 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, right, he could make two or three plays 1382 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a huge game. Yeah, that's what's unfair. 1383 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: I always talk about this. An offensive lineman can miss 1384 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: two blocks and it's two sex and you're a total bum. Yeah. 1385 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: D lineman can get flattened a lot of times you 1386 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: won't even really notice it. But if he has a 1387 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: couple of sacks, especially dramatic ones, good my goodness. The 1388 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: guy is awesome. But Clowney does have the awesome club, 1389 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: like you said, so we'll see how that goes. There's 1390 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: a lot to it here, Johnny, And I'm really getting 1391 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: fired up for this one. Earlier in the week, I 1392 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: was thinking, oh, man, of course, Texans one, nine and one. 1393 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: It's difficult, right, But I really think the players are 1394 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: gonna respond. They're gonna be inspired by the time we 1395 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: get to kick off, if not well before, they have 1396 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: to be well before to prepare. But I'm just saying 1397 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel the buzz well as it pertains to sexiness. 1398 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: The next two all right, about as sexy as it 1399 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: gets playing a game at noon. Oh yeah, Shawn Watson, 1400 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns diving on Clowney, Miles Garrett, etc. And then 1401 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. The following week up at Jerry World at noon. 1402 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's then it's Kansas City here, yeah, I mean, 1403 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: and then the hottest chief at the ball right now, 1404 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: the hottest woman at the ball right now, the Kansas 1405 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. And then after Kansas City, trip to Tennessee, 1406 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: go a trip to Tennessee, going to Nashville. Sexy, sexy, sexy. 1407 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm Christmas Eve flannel sexy. It's yeah, it's Tennessee Farmers only. 1408 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: That's what it is when you take on the Titans. 1409 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: It's that kind of sexy. Um. I don't know if 1410 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: you ever thought Christine McVie was sexy, but it passed 1411 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: away to day Fleetwood Mac. I feel like that's if 1412 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: you and I was a little bit young for it, 1413 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 1: but my parents listened to Fleetwood Mac and I have 1414 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: listened to plenty of Fleetwood Mac. I think it's one 1415 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: of the top top ten bands of all time. There's 1416 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: no Johnny objectively as far as bands go, there's no 1417 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: question in my mind they are. Yeah, And as far 1418 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: as I don't think I'll get recognized as such what 1419 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: they should, you don't think so, I mean, I don't know, 1420 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, but the records are incredible the longevity 1421 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: of the music. Now for those listening who might not 1422 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: be as familiar. So you have Stevie Nicks. She sings dreams, 1423 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, and that had the TikTok videos Ago got viral. 1424 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: A lot of their songs go viral for whatever reason. 1425 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Christy mcveee sang you Make Loving Fun and Don't Stop, 1426 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: which is a very familiar fleet with Max song. She 1427 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: was the lead on that, and she and her husband 1428 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: John McVie were part of the band, and then Stevie 1429 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham joined it. They became they were 1430 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of a not a supergroup, but they were a 1431 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: melting pot of sorts because they had the Americans and 1432 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: the Brits and they got together and they made incredible 1433 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: albums and she was a huge part of it. They 1434 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 1: had amazing chemistry. Look, I've always likened kind of what 1435 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: we do with Drew and Deepie. I've referenced Fleetwood. Mac 1436 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I said, it doesn't matter who's singing lead. I just 1437 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: wanted all to sound like us, right, And they always 1438 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: sounded like them no matter who was singing lead, whether 1439 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: it was her, Buckingham or Knicks. And the fact that 1440 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: She's gone. You and I were in studio earlier and 1441 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: you told me this, and I was thinking this one 1442 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: hit this one because the Fleetwood Mac is the soundtrack 1443 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: to a lot of people's lives, absolutely and mine included. 1444 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: They're one of my top three top three. I'm mister Zeppelin. 1445 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Zeppelin's my all time favors, but at Zeppelin, I'm not. 1446 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of weird subjectively either Zeppelin, Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac. 1447 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: Top three bands for me, that's my personal favor I 1448 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 1: know there are tons of great bands, but those are 1449 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: my personal favorites. Lawrence Welk Heehaw, Fleetwood Mac. Not Perry Como. No, 1450 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: not Perry Miller Singers, which which by the way, Um 1451 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: on a different note, we're flying back from or flying 1452 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to Miami. Flying back from Miami, there's documentary of the 1453 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: history of the sitcom. Maybe think where you're talking about 1454 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Perry Como. Where was this one I needed? Is? Yeah, 1455 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: well I watched almost all of them on the trip 1456 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,600 Speaker 1: to Miami. It was fantastic to see it. Oh, it 1457 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: is really really good because it had different themes, Like 1458 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 1: one was you know, the the sitcom originally was about family. 1459 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it was supposed to be about, 1460 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,480 Speaker 1: different families and I love Lucy, right, and then a Honeymooners, 1461 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: and then it sort of diverged and it went into 1462 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 1: different arenas and each each show was a different theme 1463 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: or topic. It was excellent. It was excellent. I have 1464 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 1: one more to watch, so when we fly to Dallas, 1465 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I might be just enough time to watch to watch 1466 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: it really really good. Has the Lucy movie come out? Yeah, 1467 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 1: it must have with Nicole Kidman. No, I need to 1468 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: see this because I don't know if they did this 1469 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: in this documentary. Talk about how kind of racy that 1470 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: show was. Yeah, for the time, it's an interracial sort 1471 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: of relationship. He's Latino. They went into They got into 1472 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of topics on a lot of the sitcoms, 1473 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: and I love Lucy in particular. I mean, she's maybe 1474 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: the best ever in the history of sitcoms. He was 1475 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: awesome blah blah lul But they made him stay in 1476 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: separate beds on TV show because possibly this is the fifties. 1477 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: But I don't know where this baby came from. It 1478 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: was delivered, okay, because they sleep in separate pass kids. 1479 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: The start came by and delivered this baby. Too us. Yeah, 1480 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: they wanted to. They did a long, a long portion 1481 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 1: of the show talking about that Lucy Ball being pregnant 1482 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: and how they tried to hide it on just everything. 1483 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,719 Speaker 1: It was. It was pretty amazing. But history of sitcoms. 1484 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 1: It made me think about it because of all the 1485 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 1: great sitcoms in the seventies, thinking of Fleetwood Mac drawing 1486 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: that connection to all the sitcoms that were in the 1487 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: seventies and watching some of the things that a they 1488 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 1: got away within the seventies and be some of the 1489 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: things that they wouldn't even touch in the seventies that 1490 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 1: you can now do with sitcoms or you know, I 1491 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 1: don't want say you're allowed to do you were always 1492 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: allowed to do it, but what was frowned upon in 1493 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: the seventies and what you could do, and it was 1494 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: just but they were fascinating their shows in the seventies 1495 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: that you couldn't really play today, like All in the Family, Yeah, exactly, 1496 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 1: All the Families spent a long time like you could 1497 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: not do All in the way. I don't think you 1498 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: could do the jefferd Son. You could do Sanford's Son 1499 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: for sure, and the Jeffersons, and I love the I mean, yeah, 1500 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,799 Speaker 1: Serman Hemsley is one of the great yes TV actors 1501 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: ever ever. Those shows are great, and you know what, 1502 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: there's a there are a couple of networks. There's is 1503 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: it my TV? I think it's my TV? The Texans 1504 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: on there the Thursday Light or something. But they do 1505 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 1: a lot of old shows and there's another one the 1506 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 1: Decades or something, and I was like just going through 1507 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 1: it and recording some of the old ones, like Mary 1508 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Moore. They run some of those old shows, so kids, 1509 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: if you have Exfinity, go ahead and record some of 1510 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,560 Speaker 1: those because they're fun to watch. They were showing some 1511 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 1: of the initial scenes from the Mary Tyler Moore Show 1512 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: and kind of telling the Mary Tyler Moore story. You know, 1513 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I thought, man, it was pretty interesting so history sitcom, 1514 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: so definitely go check that one thing about that though quickly, 1515 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: She's got a statue in Minneapolis, right, Mary Tyler More, Yes, 1516 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 1: rocky statue in Philadelphia. When you have a fictional character 1517 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 1: that gets its own statue, that is that iconic, That 1518 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: is strong stuff. Yeah, and that's not I'm trying to 1519 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 1: think if there are any other places where you have 1520 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: a fictional character with a statue. There's gotta be somebody somewhere. 1521 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: It's gotta be like Mickey Mouse and Disney World. Say, 1522 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about You're an actor, You play a character, 1523 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 1: and they make a statue because of the character. Yeah. Right, 1524 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: that is wild to me. And I'm sure there are 1525 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: gonna be a JR. Ewing statue somewhere in Dallas. You think, 1526 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: so that's not a sitcomp then, But would you make 1527 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 1: a statue of Jr? Though? Because he was kind of 1528 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: a jerk And by kind of, I mean definitely, but 1529 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 1: he was. He was a mad Dallas iconic though. Oh 1530 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: he was fun to wash Man. Jr. Is one of 1531 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: the great characters. All very much iconic. Mark appreciate it. 1532 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks Johnny. And we're gonna finish up today's 1533 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: show with another men behind him mics. This time, our 1534 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: good friend Kevin Kugler steps in with us next on 1535 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Texas All Access. We're gonna final segments Wednesday, Nation to 1536 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Texas All Access. I am John Harris, Football and a 1537 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 1: sideline reporter. It's time to catch up with our pal, 1538 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: preseason TV game play by play artist extraordinary Kevin Coogler, 1539 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 1: who chatted with Mark about any number of things. Let's go, Kevin, 1540 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: are you still doing stuff with the Big ten Network? 1541 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,719 Speaker 1: I am still doing Big ten Network, still doing stuff 1542 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 1: for Fox for college basketball. So it's the it's the 1543 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: exciting crossover season mark where you get to do football 1544 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: and basketball all in the same week. It's it's it's 1545 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 1: a fun time of year, Absolutely fun time of year. 1546 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk some hoops, but let's talk about 1547 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Kevin, your take first of all, 1548 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: on what's happening in Houston this weekend with the Cleveland 1549 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: Browns coming in, Deshaun Watson getting the start. Look, you've 1550 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: done all our preseason games for the last decade, so 1551 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: you've been around here, and you know what this means. 1552 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts from the outside looking in right now? Well, 1553 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's that's obviously going to be 1554 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 1: a huge storyline, first starting seven hundred days for Deshaun Watson, 1555 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 1: so to have him coming back into Houston and making 1556 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 1: that his return, obviously there's going to be a lot 1557 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: of emotion and a lot of interest. But I think 1558 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: what really you have to look at with this game 1559 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: is what Deshaun Watson did for the Texans in his 1560 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: time as a Texans starting quarterback was one thing, but 1561 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: that was the past and this is now the president 1562 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: and Houston's just trying to figure out. Let's figure out 1563 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 1: how to get in the win column, and if you 1564 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: can do it against Deshaun Watson, all the sweeter because look, 1565 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 1: the trade that was engineered to move Deshaun Watson to 1566 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland has really set Houston up for a really impressive 1567 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,759 Speaker 1: draft or drafts to come, and the future of Houston 1568 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Texans football has the potential to be very bright as 1569 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: a result of that trade. Yeah, and if the Texans 1570 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: beat the Browns, they improve their position more because of 1571 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the Browns pick. They own it, and of course the 1572 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: Texans pick sits at one right now, we'll see what 1573 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 1: happens there. Kevin, You've got a lot of West Coast 1574 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: games this year, and I find that in the NFL 1575 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: this year, a lot of low scoring games, a lot 1576 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: of teams trying to pound the football, especially early on. 1577 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Maybe it's shifting a little bit lately. Is it the 1578 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: same thing with the games you've seen with the Chargers, Rams, Cardinals. 1579 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I know you've done a lot of games out West, 1580 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: including the Seahawks and some others well, and there's no like. 1581 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 1: For example, last week, I was in San Francisco and 1582 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 1: the Niners, who have started to really play good football 1583 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: right now, they're doing it with a defense and a 1584 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,759 Speaker 1: run game. They're not turning the ball over. They're pounding 1585 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 1: the football a little bit more because they got Christian 1586 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: McCaffrey and so they're able to use that run game 1587 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: at a higher level. It's so fascinating to see the 1588 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 1: turn a little bit in the National Football League to 1589 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: where teams are realizing, you know, a run game makes 1590 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: life a little easier on your quarterback, makes life a 1591 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: little easier on your defense. Not a bad thing to 1592 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a ground game. And we've 1593 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 1: seen that even on the West Coast. And I've got 1594 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks this weekend. The Rams are a banged up unit. 1595 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,839 Speaker 1: But what is what has Seattle done in their surge? 1596 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: Before they've lost the last couple, they leaned on the 1597 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: rookie Kenneth Walker the third to run the football. See 1598 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 1: if the Rams do that because Seattle has struggled to 1599 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 1: stop the run and the Rams are beat up, will 1600 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: they go to the ground. I mean, it's interesting, what's 1601 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: old is new again? Mark Kevin Coogler with US on 1602 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. All right, let's talk about the nine ers 1603 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: for a moment. A bunch of different elements here to 1604 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 1: get into Jimmy Garoppolo. Look, you sit through the production 1605 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: meetings there doing the games for Fox. What is it 1606 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: like sitting down with Jimmy and Kyle Shanahan getting ready 1607 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 1: for those games? And then the execution that Garoppolo has 1608 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 1: in these games in this weird year. It was a 1609 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 1: weird setup leading in but it's working out right now 1610 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: for them. It was so weird. And you talk to Jimmy, 1611 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 1: and we did last week, and we talked with Kyle Shanahan, 1612 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: and their relationship is one that has gone a complete 1613 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: one eighty from where Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't even throwing the 1614 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 1: guys during there wasn't anything going on in training camp, 1615 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,759 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Trey Lance gets injured. 1616 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: They've resigned Jimmy Garoppolo, and now Jimmy g is not 1617 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: only the starting quarterback, but he's a starting quarterback for 1618 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: arguably one of the three or four best teams right 1619 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: now in the NFC, and on paper, a team that 1620 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 1: by the end of the season could be the very 1621 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: best in the NFC. It's an amazing turn. Their relationship 1622 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: took some work to get back onto a an even footing, 1623 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 1: if you will, and they both have said that over 1624 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: the course of the year. And we were talking to 1625 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy last week and he said, one of the things 1626 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: that's changed is that Kyle is calling more plays that 1627 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: I like versus plays that he likes this year, and 1628 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 1: so it's really helped me feel more comfortable with everything 1629 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: that's going on because we're calling plays that I like, 1630 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: and so I feel really comfortable in this offense. And 1631 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 1: of course, with their defense playing the way it is, 1632 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,800 Speaker 1: best in the National Football League, scoring defense, best rush 1633 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 1: defense in the National Football League. They've allowed nine passing 1634 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns all season long. This is a defense that is 1635 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: absolutely playing at its peak. That's a team that can 1636 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: go along ways this year, and that defense coordinated by 1637 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's former Texan Do you think he's probably the 1638 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: number one coaching candidate when the offseason begins. If he's not, 1639 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be in one A. I mean, maybe 1640 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn of the Cowboys gets some love in that area, 1641 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 1: but Demiko Ryans is everything that you want and We've 1642 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 1: seen the trend right, It's been a lot of offensive coaches. 1643 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's coaching tree has branched out all over the league. 1644 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,719 Speaker 1: But maybe Demiko Ryans is the new young defensive mind 1645 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: that gets a head coach. He's energetic. Everybody in Houston 1646 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 1: knows him from his time with the Texan. He's energetic, 1647 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,720 Speaker 1: he's exciting, he is sharp as attack, he knows what 1648 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,000 Speaker 1: he's doing. He's incredibly personable. I think Demiko Ryans is 1649 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 1: a short list candidate for almost anybody that's going to 1650 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: have an opening this year. He's somebody you'd love to 1651 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: have as the face of your franchise. I can tell 1652 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: you that from spending time with him in the meeting rooms. 1653 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 1: And I'm very fortunate because my partner on Foxes, Mark 1654 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: Santez Well Mark and Demiko were teammates in Philadelphia, so 1655 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: they know each other extremely well. We get a lot 1656 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of great insights from Demiko and we really get to 1657 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: see his true personality and it's one that, as everybody 1658 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 1: in Houston knows, is going to be an asset to 1659 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: an organization as a head coach. Very Stone, Well, you 1660 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the Vey coaching tree and the Shanahan coaching tree 1661 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: is strong, but who really owns the tree here, Kevin? 1662 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 1: Because they were all together in Washington, A bunch of 1663 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: these guys were here in Houston before that, and it's 1664 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: interesting to trace these things. You have Salah out there, 1665 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 1: McDaniel's doing well. You know, you have a lot of 1666 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: guys to choose from, you really do. And that coaching 1667 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 1: tree collides this week because Miami and McDaniel play San 1668 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 1: Francisco and Shanahan and McDaniel works with Shanahan for I 1669 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 1: think ten twelve, fourteen years they were both in Houston, 1670 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 1: And I mean, it's a it's a crazy thing to see. 1671 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know who owns the tree, but the 1672 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 1: tree has a lot of branches that all sort of 1673 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: sprout off throughout the national football like whether Zach Taylor 1674 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,440 Speaker 1: with the AFC champion Bengals from a year ago, McDaniel. 1675 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's guys all over the league right 1676 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 1: now that you have to say come from really one 1677 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: big tree tree contist point, yeah, And I'm not sure 1678 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: where that tree. Who gets the ownership of that tree? 1679 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 1: I think you could trace it all back to Paul Brown. Actually, 1680 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 1: if I'm not missing probably yeah, through Bill Walsh, and 1681 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 1: then it gets to Brown and that's how it operates. 1682 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler joining US Fox Sports for NFL football, Big 1683 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 1: ten Network, Texans preseason football. All right, more surprising to 1684 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: you Arizona not doing well or Seattle doing well? Which 1685 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,719 Speaker 1: is more surprising to you. I would say Seattle doing well, 1686 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 1: and that's but it's a close vote because Arizona, I mean, 1687 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 1: they put all their eggs in the Kyler basket in 1688 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: the offseason and they said, this is what we want, 1689 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,320 Speaker 1: this is our guy. And it's really been a struggle. 1690 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I realize who's hurt for a couple of weeks, but 1691 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 1: they weren't exactly clicking before he went down with injury. 1692 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: But what Seattle has done this year has been really impressive. 1693 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: And it all starts with Geno Smith, a guy who 1694 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: has been a journeyman quarterback for the better portion of 1695 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: a decade. He came in as a highly touted quarterback 1696 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 1: with the Jets. It's never really clicked there, bounced around 1697 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: as a backup for several years, and then the Russell 1698 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 1: Wilson trade happened and everybody said, well, it's probably gonna 1699 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: be locked. That's the starting quarterback, and it turns out 1700 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: to be Gino Smith. And Gino is still in late 1701 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 1: November and by the time they play this weekend, it'll 1702 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: be December. Leading the National Football League in completion percentage, 1703 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 1: second in the league in passer rating. He's been tremendous 1704 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,640 Speaker 1: this year. Now they've lost a couple of games, struggling 1705 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 1: to stop the run. They're hoping that these are a 1706 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 1: couple of get well games. The Rams are beat up, 1707 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: as I mentioned. Then they play the Carolina Panthers, who 1708 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,719 Speaker 1: are trying to find their footing under an interim head coach. 1709 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,560 Speaker 1: So if they can find wins in two games that 1710 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: they'll likely be favored in, they've got a chance to 1711 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: set themselves up for an improbable playoff run. And I 1712 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: don't think at the beginning of the year anybody would 1713 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 1: have ticketed Seattle for the postseason. But here they are 1714 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,760 Speaker 1: six and five, a game back in the NFC West, 1715 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 1: and a schedule that at least over the next two 1716 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: games is favorable. The problem they have is that they 1717 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 1: have San Francisco, Kansas City, and the Jets in the 1718 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: three games to follow, so they really need wins in 1719 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,559 Speaker 1: these next two games. Kevin is the best team you've 1720 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 1: seen this year. They are, and I caveat that with 1721 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 1: I have not seen the Cowboys in person yet I 1722 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: will soon, but that is something that that defense is portable, 1723 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: and that ability to get the ball out of the backfield, 1724 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,559 Speaker 1: whether it be handoff or toss to McCaffrey, is portable. 1725 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,600 Speaker 1: That can go anywhere, it can work against anybody. And 1726 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 1: so I say, right now, on paper, San Francisco looks 1727 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,560 Speaker 1: like the best team in the NFC. I saw Philadelphia 1728 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: earlier this season in Houston against the Texans. I think 1729 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: they're very, very good, but I think their offensive line 1730 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 1: is what sets them apart from most teams in the league. 1731 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Is certainly in the conference. But I love this San 1732 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,680 Speaker 1: Francisco defense. I just think they're so so deep and talented. 1733 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: They fly all over the place. I'd take that San 1734 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Francisco defense in a fist fight every single time. I'm 1735 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 1: anxious to see the Cowboys in person, but from what 1736 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 1: I've seen up close, I'd probably put right now San 1737 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Francisco at one Eagles at one A, Cowboys at one B, 1738 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: and then maybe the Vikings after that. Kevin Coogler with us, 1739 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 1: So you did the Philly Houston game on that Thursday night, 1740 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 1: November third. First of all, your review of the battle 1741 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Red helmets and your thoughts on the Texans, because they 1742 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: gave it a good go that night, tied fourteen fourteen 1743 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: at the half, started to slip away after intermission they did. 1744 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 1: And look, I love the battle Red helmets. Those things 1745 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,639 Speaker 1: are freaking awesome, and I hope we get to see 1746 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: them with a little frequency because when you walk in 1747 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 1: and you know that, you walk into the media entrance 1748 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,440 Speaker 1: at the stadium and you walk into the big concourse 1749 01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: area there and there's the uniform, but the chosen uniform 1750 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: of the day, and the battle red helmets about the 1751 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 1: first thing I saw when I walked into NRG that day. 1752 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I was fired up. Those are that's a great look, 1753 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: not a good look, a great look. And look, the 1754 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,840 Speaker 1: Texans if you can get Damian Pierce back on track 1755 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,800 Speaker 1: again this week, the Browns don't stop the run particularly well. 1756 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 1: I think this Texans team is in a building mode. 1757 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 1: We thought that in the preseason this is not something 1758 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: that should come as a big surprise. Everybody knew that 1759 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: this was going to be a process with the Houston Texans, 1760 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,719 Speaker 1: and I don't think anything that's happened this year should 1761 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 1: dissuade people from understanding that, yeah, this is a process. 1762 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 1: There's a building process. We'd love to see more wins 1763 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 1: if we're a person wearing Houston Texans colors, but unfortunately 1764 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: that hasn't been the case. However, this is still a process, 1765 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: and I think they're on the right track. They have 1766 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: certainly loaded up in the draft. They've got an opportunity 1767 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 1: to really secure a big jump forward with what they 1768 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: do in the upcoming draft. This year, we talked about 1769 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: what could happen in this game and knock the Browns 1770 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 1: down a little bit more, which improves the Houston draft pick. 1771 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I like where they're positioned right now, even though in 1772 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: the short term it's been a bumpy ride. I really 1773 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 1: do think they're on the right path. All right, that's 1774 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna do it for Tonight's show up big. Thanks to 1775 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,880 Speaker 1: everybody involved, all my guys back at six ten, and 1776 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: all you guys for listening. Well see tomorrow and as always, 1777 01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: go Texans.