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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, January eleventh, twenty twenty two, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number ninety five. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. We're life nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star,
Speaker 1: with Nick and Dave joining me. Um, Nick, let's get
Speaker 1: started with a ninety five. I'm gonna go with Chad Hennings. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a better one than that. I was
Speaker 1: about to say, you don't seem very convinced that that's
Speaker 1: the number of person you really want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Colston Weatherington maybe wow, Yeah, he was a Dallas Desperado guy.
Speaker 1: That man. That may not have been right first. Was
Speaker 1: it the same number with the Desperadoes. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: He might have been ninety five for them. For those
Speaker 1: who don't know, the Dallas Desperadoes are that ages us.
Speaker 1: This was when Jerry actually owned an arena football team
Speaker 1: and Nick used to do the Playboy play No, you
Speaker 1: did the color color for the for the Dallas Dallas
Speaker 1: desperto anybody do that. It's fun. It's fun, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of except for the fact that, like you know,
Speaker 1: in the season was over, this season, you're like, here,
Speaker 1: we're going into the Yeah, I'm gonna, I mean, not
Speaker 1: to first world problems, not to complain about this great
Speaker 1: job that we have, but I think I would cry,
Speaker 1: Like I probably have friends like is it New Orleans
Speaker 1: that does that or it's it's I mean that is
Speaker 1: that's a thing. But like the New Orleans Saints dot
Speaker 1: com beat people like they do work for the Pels.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they just become Pelicans beat writers
Speaker 1: when the season's over. You know, I think that they
Speaker 1: have they might. I don't know. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks employees do a lot of stuff with the Sounders.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of situations like that around sports,
Speaker 1: where you just put another hat on when your season
Speaker 1: ends and go back to work. I'm very grateful that
Speaker 1: I don't, because I mean, I feel like the stuff
Speaker 1: we do with the draft and all that feels like
Speaker 1: a full time job. Like the thought of everything we've
Speaker 1: been doing since mid July. Yeah, and it's mid January
Speaker 1: and you just go right back into doing another season.
Speaker 1: That the thought of that makes me want to cry.
Speaker 1: David Irving's a ninety five. That's who I was going
Speaker 1: to bring up. Okay, good, I'm gonna admit this to
Speaker 1: you for the first time publicly. I built the site
Speaker 1: for the Desperadoes, and I would help with putting the
Speaker 1: content up. Never once attended a game ever for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Desperados, really, not even one. The games are fun,
Speaker 1: even one. Some teammate you are. I know, I would
Speaker 1: have been the same way. I just I had no
Speaker 1: desire to one. Though I had no desire. I mean,
Speaker 1: they can in the playoffs, and I know, but after
Speaker 1: we finished the Cowboys season, I was like, just like
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, I'm good, I can rest for
Speaker 1: a bit. Didn't know you felt that way. Didn't know
Speaker 1: you felt that that was the reason. So when we
Speaker 1: were like, you know, Rob and I were over there like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this. We got the any firebirds coming in
Speaker 1: to night for oh, I'd post the stories now. Back
Speaker 1: then I was posting stories, so Nick would send the
Speaker 1: story and I'd put it up. But we overcovered that
Speaker 1: I was. I never went to a game. I consider
Speaker 1: I consider myself a football junkie. Like, if it's on,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch maction on Tuesday Night.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Thursday night football, no matter how bad
Speaker 1: the matchup is. I could never get into arena. The
Speaker 1: New Orleans had Voodoo when I was growing up, Like
Speaker 1: they had a team. I had no desire to go.
Speaker 1: I had no desire to watch it. You know. It
Speaker 1: was one of those things where like I always thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of like six Flags, like taking the
Speaker 1: family to six Flags. Okay, you're not gonna take the
Speaker 1: family like two weeks in a row, three weeks, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go and ride the rides and maybe you can
Speaker 1: go later on or whatever. It doesn't matter. Who they play,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Oh, Chicago Fires coming in, thank whatever, just
Speaker 1: the crush, Chicago Crush. Sorry, yeah, Bean was there too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bean was there. Yeah, as you can see, Bean was there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, who's the fire that's Chicago's NMLS team. No, none,
Speaker 1: the Firebirds were Indiandiana. Yeah. I just think the big
Speaker 1: team was the Philadelphia's Soul. That was the game, Dallas
Speaker 1: versus Philadelphia. Big games. They would put it on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football. One time. We wasn't the owner of Philadelphia Soul.
Speaker 1: J Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I think and I know,
Speaker 1: like doing what are we doing? Sorry? Right it is?
Speaker 1: Let's go okay, good Colston, we got it. Happens when
Speaker 1: you start the show with Colston Weatherman. All right, here
Speaker 1: we goes. Here's what we didn't do today. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a season wrap since it's the end of the
Speaker 1: regular season and we're heading into the playoffs. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of questions I got lined up for you
Speaker 1: guys and what not that you're rap? I thought we
Speaker 1: were rapping. Would you like to bet? I bet Dave
Speaker 1: can throw some I listened, can run of you guys?
Speaker 1: Give me like a freestyle? No? No, just no, I
Speaker 1: think I've said this before. I am painfully white, like
Speaker 1: I enjoy to enjoy listening. Yeah, you're not a No.
Speaker 1: I would never look so white if I did that.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be terrible. I bet Dave could
Speaker 1: actually do a pretty good job. But we're not doing it.
Speaker 1: If he thought about it, he could. Probably. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you gave me the afternoon, maybe if you think
Speaker 1: about it, then it's worse, right, because then you're trying,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it wouldn't be good for you. All right.
Speaker 1: So back on the topic, here we're gonna go. Here's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. I got questions lined up for
Speaker 1: you guys, and the important the intent of this is
Speaker 1: to give people kind of an insight as to what
Speaker 1: you guys think of this team finishing the regular season
Speaker 1: heading into the postseason. And where I want to start
Speaker 1: is this is an open ended question. Most of these
Speaker 1: are going to have answers that are you know, you
Speaker 1: can choose an answer. This is an open end. And
Speaker 1: let's assume for a second you've got somebody that hasn't
Speaker 1: really watched much of the Cowboys this year and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dave Nick, tell me a little bit about this Cowboys
Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs, Like what do they do well?
Speaker 1: What do they not do so well? How would you
Speaker 1: summarize this team? Let's start with you, Dave from I
Speaker 1: think I would summarize this Cowboys team as being a
Speaker 1: fascinating like Boomer bust potential. Like if you've never watched
Speaker 1: a down of the Cowboys, I would be like, this
Speaker 1: is one of the most talented rosters in the entire playoffs.
Speaker 1: They got everything going, and if they hit their stride,
Speaker 1: they're one of two or three teams that you should
Speaker 1: legitimately consider a Super Bowl contender. They also have the
Speaker 1: potential to not rise to those expectations at all, Like
Speaker 1: they could flame out in the first round. That wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me, and that's that's kind of the fun of it.
Speaker 1: I think both of those things are in play, which
Speaker 1: is terrifying as a fan, but for a neutral observer,
Speaker 1: you're like, you should watch this because it could be
Speaker 1: really really sing or really really not great, depending on
Speaker 1: what team shows up. I think I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this team is full of good players.
Speaker 1: They probably have the most good players in the league.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't have a ton of great players,
Speaker 1: and that was Evan. I don't think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think great players make the Pro Bowl. I think
Speaker 1: good players are Pro Bowl alternates, and I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of what what happened here. In a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: is a little bit tricky because you got a lot
Speaker 1: of guys in the NFC. You might have made it
Speaker 1: if you were in another league, whatever. But I just
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of good players. When you
Speaker 1: have good players and they're playing well together, boy you
Speaker 1: can beat anybody. But the reason the difference between good
Speaker 1: and great is that you're not always there. And I
Speaker 1: think that Look at the offense, I mean, look at
Speaker 1: I mean, Dak has had a good year. You know,
Speaker 1: he's had a good I don't think Dak has been great.
Speaker 1: There's been some games he's been great. There's been games
Speaker 1: he's not been. I think he's been He's had a
Speaker 1: good year. How many great players you say this team has,
Speaker 1: um um four. I think that's the four you'd think.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Michael Parsons is great. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really do think he's like he's phenomenal. And I think
Speaker 1: Zach Martin is as well. And if you have to
Speaker 1: now I don't want to get ahead. They gotta beat
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I would just if you do
Speaker 1: have to play Tampa Bay again, or get to play
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay again. Those two players didn't play in the game,
Speaker 1: and I know Michael put was there that this isn't
Speaker 1: the Mica that's going to be playing in that game.
Speaker 1: So I think those two guys are great. Who else?
Speaker 1: I guess that depends on That's I hate saying that.
Speaker 1: It's probably depends on what's your definition of great, Like
Speaker 1: I think always playing at a high level every game,
Speaker 1: just just you can always count on. The way I
Speaker 1: look at is are they one of the best in
Speaker 1: the league. That's what I That's how I look at great.
Speaker 1: Are they considered one of the best in the league
Speaker 1: at their position? If that's so, those are two different
Speaker 1: things for me. Like I think Dak fits that category. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think Dak fits what Nick said, at least
Speaker 1: not this season. Same thing goes for um Tie and
Speaker 1: Smith probably. Um maybe I'll throw digs in there. I'll
Speaker 1: throw digs in your category. Yeah, I think because we
Speaker 1: went over it like last week, Like the supposed like
Speaker 1: awful games, there haven't been that many of them. He's
Speaker 1: been reliable basically every year to either take a guy
Speaker 1: away or get you the ball back. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's won the best in the league. No, No, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He fits Nicks and yours. OK. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would I would probably I would say four, Okay,
Speaker 1: I would say four. I think Diggs is at a
Speaker 1: minus three in touchdowns this year. I think I think
Speaker 1: if you want to give him five, that he's given up,
Speaker 1: that he's taken two away too. That's a minus three
Speaker 1: with the eleven picks. That's not bad. That's not bad
Speaker 1: at all. That's really good. The reason why I asked
Speaker 1: that question was because you were kind of comparing that
Speaker 1: to other teams, and I look around the other teams
Speaker 1: that are in the playoffs. I think you'd be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to find a team that has more than four
Speaker 1: great players. Right. Kansas City City is up there, But
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I think it's very top heavy. And then
Speaker 1: they office they have to kind of you know, it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to pay these guys that kind of money.
Speaker 1: Can't pay my homes and Kelsey and all these guys,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's hard to The NFL is not
Speaker 1: designed for you to have a bunch of Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think Kansas City might be just like Dallas. I think
Speaker 1: they might have four great players. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: four is a lot of great players, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: a big number. Yeah, Yeah, they just have it. They
Speaker 1: just have it a more high profile position. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they may and they may not have the same number
Speaker 1: of good players as Dallas, like yeah, earlier Dallas probably
Speaker 1: has more good players. But I think I guess the
Speaker 1: point I'm making is when you look at their roster,
Speaker 1: I think they've got as many great players as any
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. Maybe not the greatest because you
Speaker 1: don't say dek Is is Rogers, but they got some
Speaker 1: great players, and they got enough great players to be
Speaker 1: able to be competitive. That's going back to my point.
Speaker 1: Like on paper, I think they're one of the three
Speaker 1: or four best teams in the entire tournament, maybe even
Speaker 1: one of the best two or three. Yeah, but paper
Speaker 1: it hasn't translated. It has not translated to the field
Speaker 1: just as often as it has over the second half
Speaker 1: of the season. And I think again, like going, that's
Speaker 1: why it seems like there's a little bit of angst
Speaker 1: among fans right now and media just because, um, what
Speaker 1: they looked like in September and October was like a
Speaker 1: just a world eating juggernaut, and we know they can
Speaker 1: do that, they have not done it consistently since before Halloween. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go into the next Jeff something. This
Speaker 1: game is gonna be so much fun. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. Yeah, I never wanted a game to
Speaker 1: hurry up and get here so fast for for multiple reasons.
Speaker 1: Just get us to the game. What are you implying? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: just get to the game. I don't want to miss
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, our world changes every twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, call you things chant right now. Everything's kind
Speaker 1: of good. So just again we're biased because we're so
Speaker 1: close to it. But I really do think this is
Speaker 1: the sexiest game in the entire wild Card block, like
Speaker 1: apps yeah sink, yes, more than more than New England,
Speaker 1: Buffalo Nickelodeon if you're not, which is ironic because they
Speaker 1: put the worst game on Nickelodeon last year. It was
Speaker 1: Bears Saints. It was trash. Uh yeah, and even Rams
Speaker 1: Rams and Cardinals. I mean I think these division matchups
Speaker 1: those are Rams Cards is up there? Buffalo, New England
Speaker 1: doesn't do a whole lot for me. For you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I well, I just I And I'm sorry to them.
Speaker 1: I just if you got a rookie quarterback, I just
Speaker 1: don't take you seriously, not in the playoffs. I just
Speaker 1: don't and you can even you can say that about
Speaker 1: this team in twenty sixteen, like in retrospect, maybe their
Speaker 1: ceiling was limited by Dak being so young. Um so
Speaker 1: I think it is between star power you taught. I
Speaker 1: mean for nine ers, just because they're ten and seven,
Speaker 1: don't sleep on like arguably the best tight end in
Speaker 1: the game. What Deebo Samuel has done this year is wild.
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa absolutely one of the best edge rushers in
Speaker 1: the game. UM, Fred Warner pretty good. He gets lost
Speaker 1: in the shuffle. I'm not saying he's like the best,
Speaker 1: but he's he's a very good player. They got they
Speaker 1: got plenty of talent. Brandon iu K had a great season, Like,
Speaker 1: they got plenty of talent their own, and then you
Speaker 1: throw in the stuff for us, like amazing uniform combination,
Speaker 1: Like just two of the most iconic uniforms the history
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, iconic brands, everybody who's been like everybody
Speaker 1: grew up with Madden, and some are all doing Cowboys
Speaker 1: forty nine ers games. Like I honestly I said this
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think maybe that was on purpose. They
Speaker 1: were like, let's put Cowboys forty nine ers in the
Speaker 1: three thirty slot. That's just that's just supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I just I think this is this is a dream
Speaker 1: matchup in terms of just juice. Yeah, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see it. Um, let's me want to the next question,
Speaker 1: this is the This team is the first team in
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL to do these things in combination.
Speaker 1: Four thousand plus passing yards with Dak, one thousand plus
Speaker 1: rushing yards with Zeke, one thousand plus receiving yards with CD,
Speaker 1: ten plus sacks with Parsons, and ten plus interceptions with Diggs.
Speaker 1: My question for you guys is which is the greatest
Speaker 1: of these accomplishments. The greatest is the eleven interceptions. I
Speaker 1: think it's just the thing that doesn't happen very often. Um,
Speaker 1: that's that'd be my answer to that. I haven't I
Speaker 1: have an answer of why I think that happened this year.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Dave, what what is the greatest accomplishment
Speaker 1: out of that group? I don't disagree with you at all,
Speaker 1: but just in the interest of being different, I just can't.
Speaker 1: You can't undersell what Micah did. Ten plus sacks is
Speaker 1: a rookie is amazing anyway, Like rookie edge rushers don't
Speaker 1: do that very often, and then you consider that he
Speaker 1: isn't an edge rusher, Like they threw him into that
Speaker 1: basically out of necessity, and he took it and ran
Speaker 1: with it. I mean, so that's and that's maybe they
Speaker 1: obviously thought that he could do that, but for him
Speaker 1: to translate so easily and so quickly, that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that that you know, that's that and that's
Speaker 1: that's that came out. And I think Dave and I
Speaker 1: were in the pres box and we're kind of like
Speaker 1: it was a little i mean like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's fine. It's just one of those things. I'm
Speaker 1: fine that they're all even numbers, you know, when you
Speaker 1: start getting into these wonky stats, just that you're trying
Speaker 1: the more, the more, the more things you list, and
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And I think it speaks to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: having a very star studded, maybe even top heavy roster,
Speaker 1: Like they've got a lot of guys who are capable
Speaker 1: of doing stuff like that. But the longer the list goes,
Speaker 1: the more my eyes start to glaze over, where it's
Speaker 1: just like they're the first team to score fifty points
Speaker 1: on a Saturday night in Philly when it was below
Speaker 1: thirty degree. I'm just like, okay, like you're right, but
Speaker 1: how much should I really care? And the most interesting
Speaker 1: thing about that is if you I wonder, I don't
Speaker 1: know this, but I wonder if you take out the
Speaker 1: ten plus interceptions, how many teams have done the other four?
Speaker 1: That's the unique right, Like you said, you just don't
Speaker 1: get ten plus interceptions in a season very often. That's what.
Speaker 1: Should you take that one out? How many other teams
Speaker 1: have done those things? I bet the dig I bet
Speaker 1: the dig stat is doing a lot of lifting there
Speaker 1: because a lot of teams have done the other stuff.
Speaker 1: Like basically every team that makes a Super Bowl run
Speaker 1: is going to have a good quarterback, a good receiver,
Speaker 1: a guy who gets to the quarterback, like all of
Speaker 1: that a thousand yards, not a crazy number four running back.
Speaker 1: So that's like the rest of that stuff is very
Speaker 1: easy to do. That the rams right there, and then
Speaker 1: you know they probably have a guy with Sachs. They
Speaker 1: just Todd Light didn't get ten picks. I was we've
Speaker 1: I mean, they're I don't know, off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. I know Xavi and Howard had ten last year,
Speaker 1: but like, there can't be more than twenty ten interception
Speaker 1: guys in recent history. I mean, there just haven't been
Speaker 1: that many. Um what I what I think that the
Speaker 1: stat also shows is just that, you know, we say, well,
Speaker 1: what is this team's identity? We've been asking that, we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have one really something that they lean on all the time.
Speaker 1: Their offense has been good some games, some games it's not.
Speaker 1: Some games the defense gets turnovers and wins games, some
Speaker 1: games they don't. But they can they can do at all.
Speaker 1: They have won in a lot of different ways. So
Speaker 1: that kind of shows me that they can be versatile
Speaker 1: and maybe that is their identity, is that they're a
Speaker 1: multiple team. Like they're a team that can do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things and do a lot of different
Speaker 1: things pretty well. Put it all together. Exactly can you
Speaker 1: do it? Now? Can you do it against superior competition?
Speaker 1: That becomes the real question. I bet I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love it to hear
Speaker 1: an honest answer from everybody from all the other thirteen
Speaker 1: teams about what their expectations truly are, Like Bengals and Raiders,
Speaker 1: you're probably just happy to be here, considering like who
Speaker 1: you are and what you think. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: for the Bengals to be I mean, and that they've
Speaker 1: been great, Joe Burrow has been so awesome, but like
Speaker 1: for them to be in the playoffs in year two
Speaker 1: of his career, they haven't fixed the offensive line and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. They're probably just pumped, like hell yeah,
Speaker 1: like we're ahead of schedule. The Raiders firing their coach,
Speaker 1: losing their first round pick in the middle of the seat,
Speaker 1: like they're probably just happy to be here. Patriots probably
Speaker 1: just happy to be asking are you asking the players? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm asking every player, especially when that's why a little
Speaker 1: bit like I don't think they all expect they're gonna
Speaker 1: win the Super talking about the fans and the media
Speaker 1: around each team. So I like Chiefs, Bills, Packers for sure, Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna get to the Super Bowl or else.
Speaker 1: This is a failed effort, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so the reason I say all this is I
Speaker 1: just think the Cowboys are interesting. I think that's the expectation,
Speaker 1: but I just at the same time, I'm like, they
Speaker 1: could lose this game to San Francisco. Or they could
Speaker 1: also get hot and play like what we've seen and
Speaker 1: just to kick everybody's ass on their way to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Like both of those things seem equally possible
Speaker 1: to me, which is also the very frustrating thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: an observer or a fan is you want them to
Speaker 1: play up to their potential, and they don't always quite
Speaker 1: get there. That's the part that's hard to swallow sometimes.
Speaker 1: Are we're gonna take our first break, we come back.
Speaker 1: We got lots more questions. We're gonna throw it. These
Speaker 1: guys will do that when we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're doing a recap, a
Speaker 1: wrap up of the two thousand and twenty one season
Speaker 1: heading into the two thousand twenty two. I guess playoffs.
Speaker 1: Here we go with our next question, rookie with the
Speaker 1: great with the greater potential, based upon what you've seen
Speaker 1: so far this year, who do you think has the
Speaker 1: greatest potential. I'll throw a few options out. Kelvin, Joseph also,
Speaker 1: O diggi Zua, Chauncey Gholston. I mean, I've been I'm
Speaker 1: I am. It's a small sample size, but I'm very
Speaker 1: impressed by what we've seen from Kelvin these last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Getting again, I mean it's well, actually no,
Speaker 1: because Philly played their receivers. I mean, he was going
Speaker 1: against their better receivers, and they were targeting. They're they're
Speaker 1: trying to get DeVante Smith the rookie receiving record, which
Speaker 1: he got, so they were targeting Kelvin a lot. I
Speaker 1: thought he held up well. I thought he played well
Speaker 1: when they threw him in there at the end of
Speaker 1: the Arizona game. Um, And then you just think about
Speaker 1: his natural talent that he was. What was he pick
Speaker 1: pick forty four, He was a top fifty pick. He
Speaker 1: was picked higher than Trayvon was. And so if you're
Speaker 1: just talking about potential, I feel I'm very encouraged about
Speaker 1: where he is and where he could be. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I agree. I think I think he's the one
Speaker 1: that that has a chance to really take it to
Speaker 1: another level. This is the time for him because when
Speaker 1: he was drafted, there was never ever any question about
Speaker 1: his talent. It was is he going to be mature
Speaker 1: enough to do the things he's got to do to
Speaker 1: take that talent and make the most out of it? Um?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be committed all the way? And
Speaker 1: you know that's if you I'm not trying to bring
Speaker 1: it up now. I'm just saying that was the knock
Speaker 1: on him and this offseason. What is he doing? What
Speaker 1: is he doing this offseason? Is he taking it to
Speaker 1: the next levels? He's gonna be like Treyvon did last
Speaker 1: year and work with a hard enough Trayvon has an
Speaker 1: older brother who's an all pro. You know they can
Speaker 1: work together. Does he'll share his big brother? Yeah? Huh.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll share his big brother, maybe work with him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if he can take that next level.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really loved what I saw from him.
Speaker 1: Other than that dropped the pick and he got to
Speaker 1: catch that ball. He was physical, He's a physical player,
Speaker 1: and I really liked it. I think he can be
Speaker 1: a good, good player. He's just gotta get it, he's
Speaker 1: gotta want it to take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: I'll throw out Osa. I really what I saw from
Speaker 1: Osa this year, and really in the first half of
Speaker 1: the season, I think he was even more disruptive than
Speaker 1: maybe in the second half, which for me, a lot
Speaker 1: of times when you got a rookie, I kind of
Speaker 1: expect that that you're gonna be probably a little better
Speaker 1: in the first half maybe than the second half, just
Speaker 1: because your body's adapting to the long NFL season. But
Speaker 1: I don't think he was a bad player in the
Speaker 1: second half. I think he has been a player that's
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to the possibilitys of what he can be.
Speaker 1: I think he might be a really really good player
Speaker 1: for them long term. And Golston, you gotta give him
Speaker 1: some lef too, but I think Osa would be Gholston
Speaker 1: to me, looks like he could be a guy like
Speaker 1: Dorian's armstrong. Like in the third year, you're going to
Speaker 1: training camp and you're talking to the people and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, just talking to some scout and he's like
Speaker 1: Golston's playing, you know what I mean, kind of like
Speaker 1: a Tyrone Crawford did. It was just like, Oh, you
Speaker 1: don't see it all the time unless you're watching that tape.
Speaker 1: That he's so versatile and he's gonna be doing different things.
Speaker 1: If he can stick to one position, which they may
Speaker 1: not want him to do, but if he can and
Speaker 1: really craft that he could be really good too. I
Speaker 1: think something interesting to note about Osa too, And we
Speaker 1: don't get to see these guys as much as we
Speaker 1: would prefer. Like I think he's come out and talk
Speaker 1: to the media like three or four times since training camp,
Speaker 1: So I don't know him, but he's a very smart
Speaker 1: guy and like he's very I just think he's got
Speaker 1: his eyes wide open about this whole thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably very beneficial for him that he's got an
Speaker 1: older brother who was in the league and probably didn't
Speaker 1: have the career he wanted compared to where he was
Speaker 1: drafted by the Giants, and so I just I really
Speaker 1: like his approach, Like going to what Nick was saying
Speaker 1: about Kelvin, Like he strikes me as a guy who
Speaker 1: is about his business and is going to be focused
Speaker 1: on like what he can do to get better so yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had a fantastic rookie season. I think the arrow
Speaker 1: is pointing up on all those guys, which is I
Speaker 1: mean they it appears that they did a hell of
Speaker 1: a job with this class so far. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Will McClay. Let's talk a little bit about the next question.
Speaker 1: Who was the better free agent signing for Dallas between
Speaker 1: these two? I know they had a lot of free
Speaker 1: agent signes, but between these two Malle Cooker and Demonte Casey,
Speaker 1: I think Casey's just been the regular starter. Right. It
Speaker 1: hasn't always been fantastic with him. I know people taught
Speaker 1: like he's He's been involved in a few busts over
Speaker 1: the course of the season, but I really like his demeanor.
Speaker 1: Like Jayron Curse gets a lot and rightfully so it
Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit for like that dog demeanor
Speaker 1: and competitive and FEISTI and of imbuing that confidence. But
Speaker 1: Casey's kind of like that too, Like he's a he's
Speaker 1: a feisty dude. Um. Yeah, when they played the Bucks
Speaker 1: the first time for Game one, he was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, Tom Brady, I mean, he's just a guy.
Speaker 1: He was like, well, he's not really just a goat.
Speaker 1: It's kind of more than a guy. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: I play for our for our you know, we don't care,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't care who it is. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go out there end, you know, love it. That's that's
Speaker 1: the way he's got to play. And But to answer
Speaker 1: the question, the guy they're gonna probably, I don't know
Speaker 1: who they try to resign. You know, you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: like Casey and Keane O'Neill, they came here, you know,
Speaker 1: with dan quinn, and it doesn't look like dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: gonna be here, you know. I mean that's that seems
Speaker 1: very obvious at this point. And there's a lot of talk.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just somebody who's gonna get an interview
Speaker 1: with him and not want him. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a job, so that that's a done deal.
Speaker 1: And so you just wonder who they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: sign to me personally, I think I'm trying to resign
Speaker 1: Millie Cooker if possible, I do. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Cooker is an easier guy to resign for sure. I'm
Speaker 1: looking up to see they're snap counts. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Casey's played eighty percent of the snaps this season. For Hooker,
Speaker 1: it's more like it's more like forty six fifty percent. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Casey's just had a much bigger role and not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw anything at you that you're
Speaker 1: not prepared for, but it does seem like Cooker's had more.
Speaker 1: If you look at the second half of the season
Speaker 1: and really over the last month, it seems like Cooker's
Speaker 1: getting in more. Yeah, so I would, I would. I
Speaker 1: would wonder if you extrapolated dead till the full season.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was coming in coming off injury, he got
Speaker 1: here late, all those things. If they are seeing as
Speaker 1: time goes on that they really have a role for
Speaker 1: him that may even surpass what they have for Casey
Speaker 1: at some point. If their plan is to sign Hooker
Speaker 1: with an eye on him being the starter at that
Speaker 1: position next year, and maybe you try to draft somebody
Speaker 1: like I'm fine with that, that would mean no problem here,
Speaker 1: all right, Next question, most and proved player. These two
Speaker 1: players are the nominees, Terrence Steele and Dalton Schultz. Who's
Speaker 1: been most approved? Um, I would no, it's not even close.
Speaker 1: It's Terrence Steele because Dalton Schultz was pretty damn good
Speaker 1: last year. Like he's had a better season this year,
Speaker 1: but he had a nice year last year. Terrence Steele
Speaker 1: did not. Can I complicate that for you? I hate
Speaker 1: I don't like these types of things. If you were
Speaker 1: if you go back two years to where Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: was two years ago, who's at the biggest jump? We
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, like everybody was trying
Speaker 1: to fire Dalton Schultz, like his glow up from Like
Speaker 1: basically everyone was like, what's he doing here? Too? This
Speaker 1: guy is gonna get paid in a couple of months,
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be one of the best tight ends
Speaker 1: available on the market. He is a viable starting tight end.
Speaker 1: Who can do I mean he yeah, he ain't. He's
Speaker 1: not a road grader, but he's a good player. You know,
Speaker 1: I've said this before, like I think I think a
Speaker 1: good comparison to him is Jay Novchek. And people can
Speaker 1: scoff if you want to, but look at what Novacheck did.
Speaker 1: And Novacheck was in the league for a few years
Speaker 1: in Arizona the Cardinals, and they weren't very good and
Speaker 1: they weren't using him right. He get in the North
Speaker 1: Turner situation where he's not the main guy. You've got
Speaker 1: Harper and Urvan on the outside, not in that order.
Speaker 1: You've got you've got Immit. Of course, Darryl blocking and
Speaker 1: all that, and he benefited a lot. He was that
Speaker 1: security blanket for Troy, and so I mean, I just
Speaker 1: think he is very, very similar. He's not a big blocker,
Speaker 1: can kind of get in the way, kind of crafty
Speaker 1: over the middle. But Novacheck stayed and got paid and
Speaker 1: was part of this system. That's what you kind of
Speaker 1: wonder what's going to happen with Schultz. Is he gonna
Speaker 1: go somewhere else or is he gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I can go in a system that really really benefits me.
Speaker 1: He'll probably do both. But I think this is worth
Speaker 1: pointing out too. Not to get too much into draft speak,
Speaker 1: but I think about that a lot. People always say like,
Speaker 1: that's such a hard position to transition to, and so
Speaker 1: that's what this looks like. I mean, yeah, there's always
Speaker 1: gonna be outliers, but unless you're drafting, I mean, Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts had a great rookie year. Um the kid in Detroit, TJ.
Speaker 1: Hockinson hit the ground running because those are like top
Speaker 1: ten picks. Like when you're drafting a tight end in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, it's probably gonna take some time. Like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. Dalton Schultz, he caught
Speaker 1: twelve passes as a rookie for one hundred yards. In
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. That dropped to one for six. It just
Speaker 1: took him some time. He caught one pass in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: He caught one? Wait was he was he hurt? No?
Speaker 1: Jason Witten came out of retirement. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but just one one he was. It's it's like what
Speaker 1: Sean mccullan's got, like two sprinkles, got just a few
Speaker 1: those third tight ends in this office, they'll get a
Speaker 1: whole lot. But I mean unless unless you're the top
Speaker 1: of the top tight ends typically. I think even even
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, who was I believe a second round pick,
Speaker 1: wasn't like amazing as a rookie, I can pull that
Speaker 1: up to Yeah, as a rookie, Travis Kelsey caught no passes.
Speaker 1: What was Kelsey drafted sixty third overall, third third round. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no passes his rookiee he didn't catch the ball. Now,
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. It was an X year was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Oh oh geeze in the league for a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been longer than I thought. I mean he immediately
Speaker 1: blew up for sixty seven and eight hundred the next year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it. And unless you're just like
Speaker 1: an elite prospect tight end usually takes some time. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know this is gonna sound good. Point. But every
Speaker 1: time I see Kelsey, I think of Jeff Swain. When
Speaker 1: I think of Swain in the face to me, they
Speaker 1: look alike Jeff Swain to Kelsey, Like I wish they
Speaker 1: were the same player. You know, when I'm still playing,
Speaker 1: I got another respect for But he's still in the
Speaker 1: league and he's still playing. I just I those are
Speaker 1: my favorite types of players. Yeah, I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna shoot, he's got thirty one catches and three
Speaker 1: touchdowns for the one seed in the AFC right now,
Speaker 1: he's not playing this weekend, right nope? Ye, all right,
Speaker 1: here's the next question. I'm gonna give you guys five
Speaker 1: choices for this answer. Free agent you'd most free agent
Speaker 1: you think is most important to resign. I'll give you
Speaker 1: the two wide receivers Michael Gallup and said, Wilson, I'll
Speaker 1: give you j Ron Curse, I'll give you Brian Anger,
Speaker 1: and I'll give you Dalton Schultz. Most important player to
Speaker 1: resign to those five? I was just so you took
Speaker 1: Randy out of the equations. Stand out of the equation.
Speaker 1: There's a reason I took Randy out of the sad.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that we're sitting here and you picked
Speaker 1: five guys and Layton's not in your pig No, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not about that you were wrong. It's the fact that,
Speaker 1: like we're just not even putting him in. He doesn't
Speaker 1: even make it in the group. All right, Most important
Speaker 1: to resign of those five? You want to give your
Speaker 1: names again again, I got them two receivers, Schultz, Curse
Speaker 1: and Anger. Yeah. I hate what I'm about to say
Speaker 1: because I'm the safety guy, and I think what Jron's
Speaker 1: done for them, I would love to have him back.
Speaker 1: What he's done for them has been very valuable. He's
Speaker 1: been awesome. But defense is so hard to predict from
Speaker 1: year to year, like the variance, unless you've got legion
Speaker 1: of boom type talent, it's hard to just be at
Speaker 1: the top of the defensive rankings like year after years,
Speaker 1: it's just you can look at the trends. So with
Speaker 1: that in mind, having a consistent, good tight end who
Speaker 1: can help Dac out and again, the strength of this
Speaker 1: team is still its offense. In my opinion, I would
Speaker 1: take Dalton out of all of the names you just
Speaker 1: listed off for me, I think I would take Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1: I would go with Curse. I think Curse gives them
Speaker 1: more attitude of versatility, a wiry player that they haven't had.
Speaker 1: He can do a lot of things with him too.
Speaker 1: He could play linebacker, he can play some safety. I
Speaker 1: just like everything that he brings. Um, I would try
Speaker 1: to resign him. I don't want to disagree with the Schultz.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I would like to have anger,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, you're gonna have a punter
Speaker 1: and you hope he's gonna be good. I was wrong
Speaker 1: on that one, though, I gotta I mean, I was.
Speaker 1: I whiffed on that one. I was like, why would
Speaker 1: you bring this guy in? I think nice Wonder is better. Nope,
Speaker 1: not been great. He's been He's been really really good
Speaker 1: and he helped them when the Cowboys offense was struggling here.
Speaker 1: In these last five games, he has been even better,
Speaker 1: and Anger has kind of he's helped flip field position.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not he's not crafty to the point
Speaker 1: where I'm not crafty, but you know he doesn't always
Speaker 1: just painted at the one and it bounces back and
Speaker 1: or angle it out of bounds. He's gonna put the
Speaker 1: ball in the on the nine yard line for you,
Speaker 1: and you know he's been a weapon. I think the
Speaker 1: thing my thoughts with special teamers is just I mean,
Speaker 1: Anger said when he got named to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: he came here for Bones, like he knew what Bones
Speaker 1: does for punters. He wanted to be part of that.
Speaker 1: So that I mean you, Bones is gonna be here
Speaker 1: next year. I haven't heard anything about him getting job interviews,
Speaker 1: so so that hasn't changed. And then the bidding war
Speaker 1: for specialists just typically isn't the same. So I just
Speaker 1: kind of think, I'm like, you can probably keep Anger
Speaker 1: if you want him, whereas the other guys, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be worrying about other people's offers. Fossil could
Speaker 1: be a good head coach. I'm not saying that he
Speaker 1: couldn't be, just I'm just kind of thinking, if you're
Speaker 1: a beat writer, you're saying you think he is, or
Speaker 1: you're asking the question I'm asking. I mean, he'd be
Speaker 1: a little he'd be different, he'd be you know, because
Speaker 1: you need somebody kind of to kind of rain him in,
Speaker 1: and if you're the head coach, you're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I could see Bones just being involved
Speaker 1: in a media fiasco like once a month, you know,
Speaker 1: like the thing earlier this season and everybody, I think
Speaker 1: it was the LA game he was. They're like, why
Speaker 1: are you calling block in that situation. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to give cowboy fans what they want. That's
Speaker 1: what y'all wanted or what I forgot about that stuff
Speaker 1: like that. When you're the head coach, it's very different
Speaker 1: than we special teams coach. I don't know or even
Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of he pissed people off. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: He was comparing zirline to Tiger Woods. NUIs Scruggs was
Speaker 1: even like Tiger's different though, like Tiger's the best person
Speaker 1: to ever play golf. Greg's airline is not even close
Speaker 1: to that. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: that that was pretty funny. You know one thing I
Speaker 1: will point out, I agree with you, Nicko on jay
Speaker 1: Ron Curse because I look at it. I say, you know,
Speaker 1: what would you do if you didn't have that player?
Speaker 1: I think at tight end, as much as I like
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and what he brings, you do have Blake Jarwin.
Speaker 1: And I think Blake Jarwin can be a comparable type
Speaker 1: tight end to Dalton Schultz. You look at a lot
Speaker 1: of these others like Brian Anger. That's great, he's had
Speaker 1: a great season, don't get me wrong, But I think
Speaker 1: you could probably if you had to, you could probably
Speaker 1: find a comparable punter. I just think what Jayron Curse
Speaker 1: has brought has been unique and different and the most
Speaker 1: important part. And I probably ought to wait and say
Speaker 1: this until after this weekend. He's done pretty good against
Speaker 1: tight ends this year when they've kind of matched him
Speaker 1: up in that way. He's got another tough matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 1: But but I think that's a part of his game
Speaker 1: that that's even just as valuable as the others. And
Speaker 1: you have a guy like him that you can match
Speaker 1: up against tight ends against against some of the better
Speaker 1: tight ends in the league, and those tight ends not
Speaker 1: really kill you. I think that's really really valuable. I
Speaker 1: just think I just I trust if they were to
Speaker 1: resign Dalton Schultz, I trust very I'm very very confident
Speaker 1: as long as he's with Dak in this offense, he's
Speaker 1: gonna catch like fifty to eighty balls six hundred, two
Speaker 1: thousand yards and half a dozen touchdowns. Like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I can just count on that to keep happening.
Speaker 1: Jayron Curse, the scheme could change, dan Quinn might not
Speaker 1: be here. Maybe the new guy asks me to do
Speaker 1: something different. There's just a lot more variance there. There's
Speaker 1: a lot more potential for that not to be the same.
Speaker 1: And we have to be realistic. Jayron Curse was not
Speaker 1: this player before this year, and so you gotta give
Speaker 1: dan Quinn some of that. And if he's not here,
Speaker 1: how much has that changed. But I will say to consider,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you start talking about price, I think
Speaker 1: it's much more likely that jay Ron's here than Schultz.
Speaker 1: I just think again, other teams with more cap space
Speaker 1: making competitive offers. All right, let's take our final break.
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Speaker 1: All right, we got a few more questions we want
Speaker 1: to get before we in the show. Let's next question.
Speaker 1: If you could replace only one of these two players,
Speaker 1: which would you replace it. I'm talking about once the
Speaker 1: season is done, getting ready for next season, Connor Williams
Speaker 1: or Tyler Beyottish. We're laughing because we're saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: We're thinking the same thing, right, I'm guessing yeah, and
Speaker 1: just I think so if you could do both? I
Speaker 1: think so, yeah you could. And Okay, it's a funny joke,
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not completely kidding, But like Tyler beyondest,
Speaker 1: neither one of them has been awful. But like it's
Speaker 1: easy to dog Tyler. He's definitely, you know, some of
Speaker 1: the better dtackles have gotten the best of him. There's
Speaker 1: been some issues with the snap placement and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: All things considered, I think he's been solid. Um, But
Speaker 1: that's guard center. If I've got a red sharpie and
Speaker 1: I'm circling things that I want to address in the offseason,
Speaker 1: that's that's getting a big red circle on the thing.
Speaker 1: He has played better, I think lately. But I've never
Speaker 1: seen a center get more false starts. I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you're getting a false start, Like, is it because
Speaker 1: of the way he raises, But I think every center
Speaker 1: does it. And I can't quite figure it out either,
Speaker 1: because I think most centers, if you watched him, they
Speaker 1: kind of do that little head of jerk. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's getting the penalty, but none of them
Speaker 1: rocking game. The last game, it was definitely because I
Speaker 1: was sitting down there and I was shooting him at
Speaker 1: the same time, and he rocked back and he almost
Speaker 1: picked the ball up. He's falling backwards, That's exactly what
Speaker 1: he did. I just feel like maybe it's it might
Speaker 1: be in my head because remember, like we talked in
Speaker 1: the offseason, like we found out later Andy Dalton preferred
Speaker 1: Joe Looney because he trusted that the snaps were gonna
Speaker 1: be in the same place. I think there have only
Speaker 1: been like one or two botched snaps, like they fumbled
Speaker 1: against the Giants the first time they played in the
Speaker 1: red zone. There have been a couple of those, so
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a disaster. But I swear I'm just
Speaker 1: always looking at the snap and I like the numbers
Speaker 1: of number of times Dax had to kind of like
Speaker 1: high high point the ball coming out or it's over here.
Speaker 1: It just it seems like it's been a lot. And
Speaker 1: whereas like when Travis was in there, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've thought about that once in my entire life. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, let me throw a different curveball at you.
Speaker 1: Let's say that Connor Williams agent in the talks with
Speaker 1: Steven says, listen, the season's over from now till the
Speaker 1: end of till the start of training camp. My guy
Speaker 1: is gonna be snapping the ball more than any any
Speaker 1: person in the world. He's gonna snap at five hundred
Speaker 1: times a day. He's gonna work on the shotgun snaps,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. He is gonna dedicate himself to being
Speaker 1: a sinner. Would you would you consider to that Connor
Speaker 1: Williams at center as long as he's ok. I would
Speaker 1: say that sounds great. How much do you want? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and don't this doesn't guarantee anything. If like, if if
Speaker 1: the right guy falls in my lap in the draft,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna draft well, and that's and that could happen,
Speaker 1: and then he could just beat out the the guy
Speaker 1: left guards, you know, and you can still do that.
Speaker 1: It does I'm not playing a lot of paying a
Speaker 1: lot of money for it. Yeah, I would give it
Speaker 1: a shot. It's always if he can, if he can
Speaker 1: make that switch to center, I mean, that would be
Speaker 1: really good because he's he's big enough, quick enough, nasty,
Speaker 1: enough to kind of fight there in the middle. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, all those didn't do it early
Speaker 1: enough last year, all those conversations, which sometimes like we're
Speaker 1: wrong a lot, we look stupid a lot, but like
Speaker 1: sometimes you just nail something Like all spring, we're just like,
Speaker 1: it's weird that they don't have a center. It's weird
Speaker 1: that Connor Williams isn't really doing this, And then they
Speaker 1: get the training camp and they're like, oh, we don't
Speaker 1: have a center, Like let's try it. Yea in the game.
Speaker 1: Everything with everything about this is about price with me, Like,
Speaker 1: if I can get Connor Williams back at a very
Speaker 1: very friendly price, I'm all for it. It's at the
Speaker 1: very worst, it's depth. At the very best. Maybe he
Speaker 1: starts at center or could be your starting guard as well.
Speaker 1: I rather try to upgrade that. But if you could
Speaker 1: get him back on a good deal, you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of wonder if they don't go the opposite way
Speaker 1: with him and his agent and his team says, I'm
Speaker 1: a tackle, I'm I'm agile, I'm athletic. You know I
Speaker 1: can play. I can play. He could play right tackle.
Speaker 1: Free agency might not be the right time, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you how can you sell yourself as being worth
Speaker 1: a good contract without a single snap on tackle tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to get somebody to kind of bring you
Speaker 1: in and give you an opportunity to play it and
Speaker 1: then make that argument and another deal, like you want
Speaker 1: a one or two year deal with a team that's
Speaker 1: going to use you at tackle, or maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: kind of sell the team that signs you is like
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on this and I can offer
Speaker 1: you that flex like you're not going to start me
Speaker 1: at tackle, but just no, that type of thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that was when he was at his best. Now,
Speaker 1: of course it was in college, but when he was
Speaker 1: playing tackle, that's when he was at his best. So
Speaker 1: all right, one more question before we end today's show.
Speaker 1: And actually this is a two part question. What was
Speaker 1: the best victory the Cowboys add this year? And what
Speaker 1: was the worst loss? Oh? Good, okay, loss is easy, Denver,
Speaker 1: I mean because the other game, I mean other games
Speaker 1: they lost, losing the Tampa on opening night. Come on,
Speaker 1: we're gonna kill him for that even even like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a bad loss, I guess, but like the
Speaker 1: Raiders are a playoff team. Derek Carrs had a phenomenal season.
Speaker 1: They scored thirty three pot. I mean that was just
Speaker 1: that was an entertaining Now it wasn't that entertaining. The
Speaker 1: refs ruined it, but like they played adequately. You know, Denver,
Speaker 1: they just did not Denver, they just sucked. So that's
Speaker 1: easily the worst loss for me. Best win, Nick, what
Speaker 1: you got? I said it yesterday. I mean to me,
Speaker 1: I think the best win was the Charters game. I
Speaker 1: mean just because I think there were so many things
Speaker 1: that came out from that. You found out what Mica
Speaker 1: could do, and you find out how they could go
Speaker 1: and win, and you know, I just I just thought
Speaker 1: it was so important and then that kind of was
Speaker 1: a springboard for sixth straight. There's that one up in
Speaker 1: Foxborole that it's New England for me. Yeah, it's New
Speaker 1: England for me because they were rolling like they'd been
Speaker 1: rolling over everybody. They sucked to start that too, and
Speaker 1: honestly it might have led to some of their issues.
Speaker 1: Like Dak talked about that, He's like, when you can
Speaker 1: climb out of this hole against New England and overcome
Speaker 1: all these penalties that set you back and still win,
Speaker 1: then you go to Minnesota and win without the quarterback,
Speaker 1: maybe you kind of start to think you're invincible. But
Speaker 1: that was coming out of that New England game. I
Speaker 1: just had a That's when I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: team might be special, Like to again, what they so
Speaker 1: they I mean, they're down fourteen seven in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: They might go down even further than that if they
Speaker 1: don't have that touchdown called back for a hold on
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and then they just battled back because theirline
Speaker 1: misses the kick, but then he come back makes it
Speaker 1: CDs waving bye bye, and to win it in overtime
Speaker 1: and set a record for yardage put up against the
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick team. Yeah, I mean that was that was
Speaker 1: a ton of fun. You know What's What's one that
Speaker 1: we don't always mentioned, but it should be thrown into
Speaker 1: the category Minnesota. I mean without I was gonna be mine. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it was gonna be mine just
Speaker 1: because like anytime you got to play a backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: and especially on this team, usually when the quarter when
Speaker 1: starting quarterback is out during my time here with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: dad usually ain't a good thing. And it wasn't with
Speaker 1: first half no, but but they went that game and
Speaker 1: they found a way to win. He made a couple
Speaker 1: throw that touchdown pass too said, I mean that was
Speaker 1: a great throw. I mean, so that game to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that game to me, that was in my opinion, the
Speaker 1: greatest win, just because I had no faith they were
Speaker 1: going to win that game whatsoever. The New England game,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was the most entertaining game they've had.
Speaker 1: This win, the most entertaining win they've had this year.
Speaker 1: I was not at that game because out of death
Speaker 1: in my family, but literally I was watching on TV
Speaker 1: and I was like losing my mind because there was
Speaker 1: so many ups and downs in that game. It was
Speaker 1: just a fun, entertaining game to watch. Yeah, I still
Speaker 1: say New England, but I I'll that memory will stick
Speaker 1: with me. Going in the post game of the Vikings
Speaker 1: game with Cooper Rush and like, who knows where his
Speaker 1: career goes from here, maybe that'll be like the only
Speaker 1: moment he has really but like you could just and
Speaker 1: he's not a super emotional guy. He's very low key,
Speaker 1: but like you could tell how much that meant to him.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, of course, like how cool is that?
Speaker 1: And like his family came over from his dad in
Speaker 1: the stands. Was that was gold right, Well, like he'll
Speaker 1: be an old man and now like maybe that's the
Speaker 1: last time he ever starts an NFL game, but like
Speaker 1: you can never take that away from him. You know.
Speaker 1: My favorite play of that game though, was I mean
Speaker 1: it just it won the game for them, was when
Speaker 1: Zeke just said, nah, I'm not gonna get tackled here.
Speaker 1: I know I'm supposed to. We threw it underneath to
Speaker 1: get a field goal. Oh, I forgot about I'm busting
Speaker 1: through these two guys getting the first down and winning
Speaker 1: the game. That was a really good We're not gonna
Speaker 1: go tying it over time, We're gonna go win it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the Zeke and he hasn't done
Speaker 1: it all a lot this year. We get it, but
Speaker 1: there's there are some moments when he you know, he
Speaker 1: does a little go o mb and he just says,
Speaker 1: well or a snoop said the other day, sit down clown.
Speaker 1: He said that it's it's it's easier to do that
Speaker 1: than get off me. Yeah, because you can't say it,
Speaker 1: yeah on the air, you can not on We're not
Speaker 1: FCC regulated, but we are. Derek regular there we go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that word not on the air. It's just
Speaker 1: not on the air. It's wild when you're calling it
Speaker 1: to an NFL player, right, Yeah, exactly, it's just wild.
Speaker 1: Like when you start breaking down all of the ebbs
Speaker 1: and flows of a season, you're just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that happened, and it feels like which going back to
Speaker 1: the top of this. That's why I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: all of the work and emotion and labor and man
Speaker 1: hours that goes into this season and then you turn
Speaker 1: around and have to do it again like three weeks
Speaker 1: from now. No, yeah, what what would be the twelfth win?
Speaker 1: Like the twelfth best win? Oh, like the win where
Speaker 1: you're just like, whatever, get me out of here. I
Speaker 1: mean because because even these games where you're like, like
Speaker 1: this last win, it scored fifty in Philly. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: they I get it. They didn't play a lot, But
Speaker 1: I mean you can't say it was like a terrible
Speaker 1: win because they went out there and dominated the team. No,
Speaker 1: it would be at Washington just because I mean that
Speaker 1: was they They tried their best to gag it away.
Speaker 1: It was the worst DAK played all year. They completely
Speaker 1: went to sleep after halftime, like it was twenty four
Speaker 1: to three and halftime, I think, and they've won twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty can't go with you on that. When their
Speaker 1: head coach came out and said we're gonna win the game,
Speaker 1: and they went out and they just put them right,
Speaker 1: just busted them right in the mouth. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: they led him up a little bit, but they weren't
Speaker 1: never gonna lose that game. Yeah. By the by the
Speaker 1: time that game was over, every I felt this way.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, I just get
Speaker 1: out of here. I hate everything that's happened. I hate
Speaker 1: the place, not well just not even the just I
Speaker 1: hated everything that happened after halftime just sucked. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, McCarthy delivered on his promise and all that,
Speaker 1: but New Orleans at home, Yeah that was but I
Speaker 1: mean that was you lost two in a row. About
Speaker 1: the Giants game there, Yes, actually that might be the
Speaker 1: better answer. Giants therein, Yeah, that's it, that might be
Speaker 1: the better that's your worst win. Yeah, it's your twelfth win.
Speaker 1: Don't need to go home. I don't care if Nates
Speaker 1: here now. I don't take the best loss. Tampa Tampa.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's the thing. Like, I know we
Speaker 1: argued about it, then we'll argue all the time. He
Speaker 1: throws those jokes in there. He's he's wrong, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I'll tell him he's wrong. Because the morale after that
Speaker 1: game was better than the morale going into the game.
Speaker 1: You're like, we didn't win. We lost to Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: We could have won, we didn't. We play like that,
Speaker 1: We're gonna win a lot of games this year, and
Speaker 1: they did. I won six in a row. I know
Speaker 1: the moral victory. There's always gonna be people that just
Speaker 1: don't care unless you win, Like that's just the bottom
Speaker 1: line that they'll never get over. But like I look
Speaker 1: back at that game right now, I look at that
Speaker 1: as a source of confidence. I'm like, you are capable
Speaker 1: of taking that team to the brink in their building
Speaker 1: on Banner Night. That means that you can be in
Speaker 1: it right up to the wire with pretty much anybody
Speaker 1: in the league. And by the way, if you look
Speaker 1: at personnel, you have I think a better team right
Speaker 1: now because some of your players that played in that
Speaker 1: game or not that they got a hell of a
Speaker 1: healthy They've taken some hits. You got a hell of
Speaker 1: a healthier team than Tampa does right now. So there's
Speaker 1: some things about that. If you can get past San
Speaker 1: Francisco and you got to go to Tampa, I don't
Speaker 1: think they have any reason to be afraid of that team.
Speaker 1: That all, they shouldn't be afraid of anybody in this
Speaker 1: tournament in my opinion. No, but they better be on
Speaker 1: their p's and ques because because they could get beat
Speaker 1: any week two. Yeah, that's and I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, you know, look at the team. San
Speaker 1: Francisco is lost too. They've lost to some good teams
Speaker 1: this year, which is true. They have um and so
Speaker 1: you know, I look at that and say, well, whose
Speaker 1: point are we making here, because they're ten and seven
Speaker 1: and they're they're they're gonna face a good football team.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a good team. The Cowboys are
Speaker 1: playing that. They are a good team. They've got some
Speaker 1: issues and you could you know, as Dave said yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think off air we said styles make fights, you know,
Speaker 1: a boxing reference, and so this is this is going
Speaker 1: to be a different kind of fight than they were thinking.
Speaker 1: The Rams and Cardinals might give them. Ye, all right,
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, joann Us. We'll be back tomorrow. We're
Speaker 1: gonna start breaking down this matchup Cowboys versus forty nine Ers.
Speaker 1: We'll have Bucky Brooks join us. Talk about that forty
Speaker 1: nine or offense, that run game. That's gonna be something
Speaker 1: to think about and watch on Sunday till then. For
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave helm and I'm Derek Hilton. This has
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