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Speaker 1: waiver for it. So when people start throwing on terms

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Speaker 1: like discrimination and bigot because of this policy. I think

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Speaker 1: that does a disservice to the discussion, no matter what

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Speaker 1: one thinks it does. And they discriminate and should discriminate

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Speaker 1: for a million different things, for asthma, for eyesight, for

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Speaker 1: an old football knee surgery, for and that, and they should.

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Speaker 1: The military is not some all inclusive club to make

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Speaker 1: you feel better about yourself or your little quirks or

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Speaker 1: anything else. The military is there to protect the United

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Speaker 1: States of America by killing our enemies. That is the

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Speaker 1: purpose of the military. It is not there to make

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Speaker 1: you feel better about yourself. Jesse Kelly, Marine Corps veteran

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Speaker 1: former congressional candidate, appreciate you for joining us on the show,

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Speaker 1: my friend, and also appreciate your SERVI send uh. Let's

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Speaker 1: get a drink uptime of your New York all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll do a buck. I appreciate you brother, absolutely, you too, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in, oh since I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: various perspectives from those who have been on the front

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Speaker 1: lines of combat on the show. So we're just going

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Speaker 1: through it this hour with a number of veterans. Now

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Speaker 1: we have Um Carl Higbie on the line now he's

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Speaker 1: a former Navy seal, Trump supporter and political commentator. Carl,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining, well, thanks for Trump you I mean,

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Speaker 1: pardon me, Carl, you were an early Trump. You're not Trump.

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Speaker 1: You're an early Trump supporter, and you're also a former

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Speaker 1: Navy seal. Um. First off, what was what's with the

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Speaker 1: president tweeting this out this morning? You think is this

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Speaker 1: just to get the media going with a misdirection or

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Speaker 1: is this to get the conversation started? What's he doing?

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting the conversation started, Buck, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is something that you know, he takes the military

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Speaker 1: very very seriously. And uh, I think this is something

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Speaker 1: that you know, people who are advocates for this transgender

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Speaker 1: thing in the military are don't take this seriously as

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Speaker 1: him and it bothers him. I think he takes it

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Speaker 1: to heart. Now you served, you're in theater, your Navy seal.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about I'm seeing all this stuff now,

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Speaker 1: you know CNN is people going on. They're saying that

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who are already serving

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Speaker 1: who are transgendered, that we should encourage more people who

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Speaker 1: are transgendered to serve. But I also see various war

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Speaker 1: fighters who have a media profile or people who speak

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Speaker 1: out on issues affecting the military, saying that, no, there

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Speaker 1: are real concerns here about unit cohesion and about combat effectiveness.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about all that is somebody who's

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Speaker 1: actually been on the front lines in combat. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: the military is not a social experiment and the left

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Speaker 1: needs to stop using it as such. This is the

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Speaker 1: problem here is if you want to be I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying don't be transgender, like not for me, But if

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Speaker 1: you want to go do it, fine, go do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. But here's the fundamentals. When I came back

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Speaker 1: to my rack in two thousand nine, I have skin

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Speaker 1: cancer in my family history, so I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: examined by a dermatologist by the military. They refused to

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Speaker 1: keep me to a dermatologist. But yet they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: somebody fake boobs. I mean, this is this doesn't They're

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Speaker 1: going to give a man fake boobs. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. But additionally, the problem here is

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Speaker 1: I'm not willing to sacrifice the comfort of nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the military for the sake of the point O

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Speaker 1: one because it makes the military lose effectiveness. I read

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Speaker 1: the guidance that former Secretary Defense Ash Carter put out there,

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Speaker 1: and there are even these these scenarios that they discussed,

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Speaker 1: And one of the scenarios is you have a a

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Speaker 1: male transitions to female who is you know, serving in

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Speaker 1: the military, in theater somewhere, and there's a problem with

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Speaker 1: shower usage. And the guidance is basically, try to keep

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Speaker 1: people from getting upset about it and see if you

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Speaker 1: can make some accommodation. But maybe you might have somebody

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Speaker 1: with male body parts showering in theater with females in

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Speaker 1: the military, that that might in fact have to happen

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Speaker 1: according to the old Pentagon guidance from here's my litmus

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Speaker 1: test for what should and should not be allowed in

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Speaker 1: the military. How does this affect the military's ability to

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Speaker 1: put bullets in bad guys? And the fact is it

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Speaker 1: does not make it any better. And if that's the answer,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. Look here's the thing I was not.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was for the donast don't tell when

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Speaker 1: they repealed it, I was. I was not pleased. But

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Speaker 1: then again, if I was king of the world tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I would not undo it because it would add further

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Speaker 1: instability to reinstitute something like that. So I do things

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Speaker 1: on the best interests of the force. And that's how

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Speaker 1: I believe. This is not in the best interest in

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Speaker 1: the fourth this force. This is in the best interest

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Speaker 1: of some social experiment to gain social social ground in

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Speaker 1: the in the election. Now, Carl, what you'll commonly see

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Speaker 1: for for anybody who's out there trying to make the

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Speaker 1: case in favor of Trump going back to what had

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Speaker 1: been Pentagon policy for it as long as there had

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Speaker 1: been a Pentagon until a year ago, a little over

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Uh, they'll say, well, well you didn't serve,

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Speaker 1: and they'll they'll run somebody out, not you, but you

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Speaker 1: know one did not serve. And then they'll run somebody

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Speaker 1: else up on TV or wherever, and they'll say, well,

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Speaker 1: if you didn't serve, you to shut your mouth about this.

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Speaker 1: You were a seal. You're telling me this your seal brothers, um,

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Speaker 1: if you had to tell me what you think they

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Speaker 1: think on this? Is there near unanimity or are there

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Speaker 1: some who believe, no, no, we should have transgender seals.

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Speaker 1: There's something there. I'll be honest, there's something, No, I

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Speaker 1: won't you be honest. Yeah, there's some that are really

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Speaker 1: just not concerned about it. But the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of people that I've spoken with in

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Speaker 1: the military, I think this is a terrible idea. So

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Speaker 1: it's not just me being a pundant trying to raise

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Speaker 1: hell over it. It is a real problem. We're speaking

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Speaker 1: of Carl Hagee. He's a Trump supporter, political commentator, former

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Speaker 1: Navy seal. Uh Carl, if I could switch gears here

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Speaker 1: for a second, Um, what is your assessment of how

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Speaker 1: the White House is doing right now and what is

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Speaker 1: what is going on? I mean, you're hearing a lot

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Speaker 1: about Sessions. You've got the health care bill. People are

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Speaker 1: trying to say that this is a mess. But is

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Speaker 1: there a method to the madness or what's what's happening?

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Speaker 1: I do believe there is, and I'm not proving to

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Speaker 1: any inside info I'll say that, but here's what I believe.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats attacked Jeff's Sessions so harshly when he when

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Speaker 1: he was trying to get Um confirmed by the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Now you look at Trump is going Trump released a

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Speaker 1: couple of tweets about him, and now Jeff's Sessions is

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Speaker 1: held in the highest honors and like an angel to

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Speaker 1: the left because you know, bad boy Trump is trying

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Speaker 1: to demonize him. This. It looked very carefully at this

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Speaker 1: because I anticipate that he that Trump has done this

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Speaker 1: on purpose in order to get the left to say, wow,

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Speaker 1: you knows such a great guy and Trump so bad.

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Speaker 1: Watch Sessions might come out and try to indict Hillary.

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Speaker 1: He might come out with some other stuff. You never know,

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Speaker 1: but I I would anticipate that this is a very

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Speaker 1: calculated move, and it it does. It has forced a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there in media land because in

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Speaker 1: the short term it's useful to use as a as

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Speaker 1: a cudgels as a means of attacking Trump in his

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Speaker 1: White House. They're now on record saying that Sessions is

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Speaker 1: a great guy, as you say, And while that didn't

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Speaker 1: stop them from flip flopping someone like Comey, for example,

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Speaker 1: it may be interesting to see what the media rap

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Speaker 1: is on Sessions in a month or two, especially as

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Speaker 1: I know he's ramping up the League investigations. Trump's just

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Speaker 1: working on discrediting these people one by one. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And you know they get him to first they hate Sessions,

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Speaker 1: now they love him this country though, and Eric Trump

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Speaker 1: said this best the other day on Fox He said

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Speaker 1: that the left would rather see this country implode than

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Speaker 1: Trump succeeds. I think that's true. I think that's uh.

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Speaker 1: That's we're seeing that with the media. We're seeing that

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Speaker 1: with people on the left who have decided that it

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Speaker 1: is in the best it is in the best interests

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Speaker 1: of the survival of this republic to completely undermine, smear, tarnish,

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Speaker 1: and destroy the president. It's pretty scary stuff. Carl hig everybody,

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Speaker 1: former Navy seal, Trump supporter, political commentator. You can go

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Speaker 1: to Carl Higbee dot com for more of his Carl,

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Speaker 1: thanks for making the time and thank you for your service.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you guys. Uh team, We are going to be

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Speaker 1: running into a break here in just a moment, but

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you think about all of this,

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Speaker 1: both on the in general, the trans band has been

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Speaker 1: called the media as well as Trump's strategy behind this,

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Speaker 1: the Sessions criticism, everything else that's happening right now with

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Speaker 1: this White House and with the new cycle eight four four.

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Speaker 1: Buck will be right back. I want to shift our

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Speaker 1: focus from the wisdom or not of the transgender ben

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Speaker 1: whether that's what should happen for the Pentagon. I've just

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Speaker 1: had it. We've had now three veterans joined this hour.

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Speaker 1: We've talked to them about and they're all people who

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Speaker 1: served on the front line in combat. What they think

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Speaker 1: about it. Um. There I should note there, of course,

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Speaker 1: other veterans who have spoken out about this, including UH

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Speaker 1: Senator Tammy Duckworth, who said today when my black Hawk

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Speaker 1: helicopter was shot down in Iraq, I didn't care if

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Speaker 1: the American troops risking their lives to help save me.

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Speaker 1: We're gay, straight, transgender, anything else. Um, all that mattered

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Speaker 1: was that they didn't leave me behind. And you've had

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Speaker 1: You've had others speaking out about this and saying that

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Speaker 1: it's UH discriminatory, un American with Trump treaty this morning,

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Speaker 1: other veterans, So I don't be I had veterans joined

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Speaker 1: that I know who are friends of mine who have

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Speaker 1: combat experience. And I do think that's also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: where the that's where the focus of the debate quickly goes.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one thing to be serving a state side

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Speaker 1: on a base. I mean, the accommodations for transgender service

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Speaker 1: members would be easier to deal with in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, and just as a logistics issue. But once

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Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about being out there on

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Speaker 1: a military base in theater, things change. And once it's

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Speaker 1: just you and your fire team, and once you get

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Speaker 1: down to small unit tactics and day to day living

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Speaker 1: and that. And that's what I wanted to reflect here

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Speaker 1: in in the show over the course of this last hour. Um.

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Speaker 1: But lawmakers are on the Democrats are are obviously freaking

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Speaker 1: out about this. But that's where I want to transition

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Speaker 1: now into Okay, well, what's the strategy, what are the

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Speaker 1: politics of this? Why did Trump do this? Because it

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Speaker 1: he set the news cycle today with these tweets this morning,

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Speaker 1: it became the primary I mean, I she was just

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Speaker 1: walking over to to see a friend, see some friends

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Speaker 1: over in the in the vicinity of CNN today And

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Speaker 1: because I was over there, happened to bump into some

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Speaker 1: CNN people I know, And did you did you see this?

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Speaker 1: These Trump tweets? You know, they're all a little flustered

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, well, yeah, I'm gonna go now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go prepare for my radio show. Good to

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Speaker 1: see you see ann friends. Um. But there they weren't

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Speaker 1: the only ones who were kind of flustered at least

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Speaker 1: taken by surprise, it seemed, on this and you had

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Speaker 1: a reporter, I forget who for these Is he still

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Speaker 1: a Fox? I don't know. Major Garrett was asking this

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Speaker 1: question about it seems like the Pentagon was surprised by

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Speaker 1: all this. I was the Pentagon so surprised this morning

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Speaker 1: by the President's tweets on them. As I said before,

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Speaker 1: that the president's national security team was part of this consultation.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned yourself that there have been ongoing conversations when

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Speaker 1: when the President made the right When the President made

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Speaker 1: the decision yesterday, the Secretary of Defense was immediately in warned,

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Speaker 1: as were the rest of the national security team that

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Speaker 1: had been part of this ongoing conversation. So people are saying, look,

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Speaker 1: you had Maddess doing this review. The review is not

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Speaker 1: up until I think December um and you had a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of you, of course, people weighing in to say,

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Speaker 1: well that this looks like it must be this must

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Speaker 1: be tied to something else. One of the theories and like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true or not, or

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Speaker 1: I should say, one of the reports. It's not really

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Speaker 1: just a theory it's reported, and they attached their name

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Speaker 1: to it, so I'll give them credit forward Politico. Politico

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Speaker 1: was saying that the the Republican House was working on

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Speaker 1: a bill, and the bill had border funding in it,

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Speaker 1: but there were some defense hawks in the House who

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Speaker 1: wanted the UH wanted there to be no money for

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Speaker 1: transgender UH surgery reassignment in the defense budget, and those

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Speaker 1: you're wondering how much money we're talking about here. According

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Speaker 1: to the Ranch study that everyone's been looking at today,

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Speaker 1: about you're looking at about six to eight million they

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Speaker 1: think a year would be spent on transgender issues. Now

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Speaker 1: that's per capita or per service member. It's obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot more expensive. I think the figure I saw was

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Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen times more expensive for the healthcare costs

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Speaker 1: of estimated healthcare costs of a transgender service member than

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Speaker 1: just a non transgender service member. But because there's so

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Speaker 1: few of them, it's not a lot of money. But

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Speaker 1: some in the House, according to this political reporting, wanted

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Speaker 1: no money at all for that because I don't think

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Speaker 1: the service should be doing that, And that then became

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Speaker 1: an issue that got raised to the President's attention by

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Speaker 1: some House members, and he was concerned that it might

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Speaker 1: affect the bill, the the budget bill, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: about a budgetary bill here that would have had funding

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Speaker 1: for a wall at the southern border. And so Trump

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Speaker 1: just decided to go out there and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: a none of this transgender service stuff in the military,

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Speaker 1: full stop. And he decided to do that on his own.

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Speaker 1: Is that what happened? I'm not the one, that's not

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Speaker 1: my sources, but this is political reporting. That's certainly out

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Speaker 1: there is a theory. But what about the h the

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Speaker 1: Trump Jedi mind trick approach, as in Trump has a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other things going on and he is using

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Speaker 1: this as a distraction with the media or well, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. And I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: you think to eight four Buck? What what? What is?

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Speaker 1: What is Trump's strategy right now? What is the game?

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Speaker 1: This White House is is into these days? That and

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Speaker 1: more coming up next hour. The Freedom Hunt rocks online too.

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Speaker 1: You can hang out with Team Buck any time. Plus

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Speaker 1: Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com. The Buck

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Speaker 1: is back. Alright, So Donald Trump gave a well, we

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Speaker 1: had a rally last night. I gave a speech at

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Speaker 1: the rally. I wanted to talk to you a bit

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Speaker 1: about what he said there and how he's trying to

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Speaker 1: refocus on the agenda. We even have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of evidence of that agenda at work. To talk about

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Speaker 1: some news breaking today on that. I will return it

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Speaker 1: to the discussion though about healthcare, all this back and

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Speaker 1: forth over Jeff Sessions, cleaning up the swamp, which Trump

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Speaker 1: now says is a is a cesspool I think is

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Speaker 1: a or a sewer. Maybe even we'll talk about how

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Speaker 1: that will work or how it could work, and cracking

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Speaker 1: down on leaks. Also the I t aid to Debbie

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Speaker 1: Wasserman Schultz who was fleeing the country, caught at the

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Speaker 1: cart of the airport, I believe, caught with his passport

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Speaker 1: trying to get to Pakistan. And what could be going

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Speaker 1: on there. A lot of shadiness but not a lot

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Speaker 1: of clarity. But we have somebody joining who's been following

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Speaker 1: it very closely, investigative reporters. So much much to discuss,

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Speaker 1: but first let's get into all the things going on

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Speaker 1: with President Trump yesterday at this uh at this rally

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Speaker 1: that he held. First of all, he said that. He

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Speaker 1: said that he could be the most the most presidential

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Speaker 1: president I think ever something along those lines he which

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Speaker 1: of course enrages all of his critics. That's that's kind

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Speaker 1: of fun. That's kind of fun stuff when he does that. Um.

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Speaker 1: But he was at this rally and people started chanting, well, CNN,

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Speaker 1: I'll say stinks, but that's not what they said. I'm

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Speaker 1: here this evening to cut through the fake news filter

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Speaker 1: and to speak straight to the American people. Fake news,

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Speaker 1: fake fake fake news, channing CNN. I can, I can, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can, CNN. CNN sucks is what they're Pardon me,

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Speaker 1: but that's where they're that's where they're all chanting there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Trump was holding was holding a rally and

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Speaker 1: it was oh, here we go more president I thought

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Speaker 1: we had this out, but he said he could be

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Speaker 1: more presidential than any Well here's what he said. Political

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Speaker 1: correctness for me is easy. Sometimes they say he doesn't

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Speaker 1: act presidential, and I say, hey, look, great schools, smart guy.

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Speaker 1: It's so easy to act presidential. But that's not going

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Speaker 1: to get it done. In fact, I said, it's much easier,

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Speaker 1: by the way, to act presidential than what we're doing here. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: believe me. And I said, with the exception of the

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Speaker 1: late great Abraham Lincoln, I can be more presidential than

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Speaker 1: any president that's ever held this office. That I can

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Speaker 1: tell you now. Of course, the crowd there loves it.

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Speaker 1: I think what he's saying or what he's getting at

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Speaker 1: there is that if the if he succeeds, if the

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Speaker 1: Trump agenda works, then all this stuff about quote being

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Speaker 1: presidential doesn't matter, um and that, and that if he's

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Speaker 1: a great president, nobody will care if he was a

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Speaker 1: president who was speaking in a in a manner that

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Speaker 1: we tend to think of as presidential or acting with

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Speaker 1: the uh, the the courteousness and uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how you describe the the the

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Speaker 1: versions of presidential that the media would like to see

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Speaker 1: from the or the version of presidential medi would like

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Speaker 1: to see from this particular president. But on the issue

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Speaker 1: of agenda, and I told you I have a news

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Speaker 1: item for you that I think we should dive into

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Speaker 1: a bit um with regarded jobs. But he talked been

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Speaker 1: a few things. First of all, and I'm not forgetting healthcare,

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Speaker 1: but I don't have a lot. So here's part of

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Speaker 1: the problem. I want to talk to you about health

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Speaker 1: care and get into all the latest on with but

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Speaker 1: the Senate, it's kind of like we don't know uh there,

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Speaker 1: it's not clear what's going to happen there, So I

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Speaker 1: can't critique or or go into the specifics too much

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Speaker 1: of a bill when we're not even really sure what

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Speaker 1: the bill will look like. And they'll be all this

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Speaker 1: this series of votes that you can expect the Senate

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Speaker 1: to hold that gets people on the record one way

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Speaker 1: or another. This is largely about seeing where the senators

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Speaker 1: are right. This is almost like pulling the Senate. It's

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Speaker 1: not so much about lawmaking yet or at least until

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Speaker 1: they pass something. Uh And I'm not even sure what

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Speaker 1: it is. No one sure what it is. So while

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Speaker 1: healthcare is important, I've spent a lot of time on that,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to just be looking into the healthcare

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Speaker 1: debate at the expense of the other areas of policy

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Speaker 1: that this president should be focusing and refocusing on for

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the American people. So to that end,

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Speaker 1: at the rally last night, he discussed, for example, something

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Speaker 1: it gets me very excited, not that I make, not

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Speaker 1: that I make enough money to get excited about this

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Speaker 1: in the sense of like I'm gonna be swimming around

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Speaker 1: like Scrooge McDuck in a giant vault full of gold coins.

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Speaker 1: Scrooge McDuck, it's a great ducktails a great cartoon. I

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Speaker 1: miss it. I'm sure it's on one of those channels

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Speaker 1: that runs all the older cartoons. But I just think that,

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Speaker 1: in principle, the tax code needs a massive overhaul. I

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Speaker 1: think that the tax code is overly redistributive, unfair. I

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Speaker 1: think that the whole notion of it being a progressive

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Speaker 1: or that progressive taxation is what we have, is false.

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Speaker 1: What we have is high taxes on high earners, which

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Speaker 1: is not the same as high wealth individuals. If we

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Speaker 1: really were going to be progressive, we would have a

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Speaker 1: wealth tax. Of course, that would terrify all the coastal

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Speaker 1: elites who don't mind that there in many cases unearned

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Speaker 1: earnings in the sense that it's just money they get

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Speaker 1: from what they already have. Capital gains tax, of course

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Speaker 1: is a couple there, but they don't mind paying taxes

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Speaker 1: on that because they're already so wealthy that their overall

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Speaker 1: expenses are covered. Right. So tax reform needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's a question of dare I say fairness, And it's

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Speaker 1: also question of jump starting the US economy getting more

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Speaker 1: hiring at better wages because better jobs. And Trump mentioned

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Speaker 1: this last night. My administration is working every single day

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Speaker 1: to heat and honor the will of the voters. That

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Speaker 1: includes working on one of the biggest tax cuts in

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Speaker 1: American history. And actually, if I get what I want,

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Speaker 1: it will be the single biggest tax cut in American history.

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Speaker 1: I love this rhetoric. I like where he's going with this.

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Speaker 1: I want big tax cuts. The government spends too much

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Speaker 1: money because the government takes too much money. But I

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Speaker 1: also have to put out this early warning. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of republic games who talk a tough game

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Speaker 1: about tax cuts, but it's really just tax cuts for

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Speaker 1: special interest that they want to have supporting them at

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Speaker 1: re election time. And the American people somehow get left

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Speaker 1: out of this because the real the real money, and

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Speaker 1: this is you go you look at people who have

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Speaker 1: crunched the numbers on this. The tax base is not

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Speaker 1: super high earners. That's you could take every dollar made

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Speaker 1: my people in the one percent. It wouldn't even it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even put it put a dent in the federal debt, right,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't even begin to really chip away at it.

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Speaker 1: You can take every dollar made by the especially when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the truly high earners. It's the point

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Speaker 1: zero one percent who have seen stratospheric increases in wealth

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Speaker 1: in the last few decades in this country. But as

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Speaker 1: much as class warfare plays well for the Democrats, it's

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Speaker 1: a distraction. The reality is that the middle class, which

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Speaker 1: we could also just say, is people who are earning

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Speaker 1: a living and trying to support themselves and their families

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Speaker 1: or just themselves. But those who work, and we used

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Speaker 1: to refer to the working class, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: an unfair or that that's an inaccurate way to describe it. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's just it's not a working class. They're just people

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Speaker 1: who work, working Americans who could not lose their job

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and not have it be a problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's really who we're talking about here, right, people who

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Speaker 1: could lose their job tomorrow and never have to work again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about them, because they're not worried about themselves.

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Speaker 1: People who are working for a paycheck that they need

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Speaker 1: to support themselves to support their families. That's who we

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Speaker 1: should be concerned about. That's who the president hopefully is

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Speaker 1: concerned about, and I believe that he is. I believe

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Speaker 1: that that's central to why he was even willing to

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Speaker 1: take this job as president in the first place. But

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Speaker 1: will they benefit from a tax cup Well, the only

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Speaker 1: certain ways that that can be the case. Simplification certainly helps.

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Speaker 1: Lower rates would help, although the rates won't get that

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Speaker 1: much lower because I think that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of Republicans that you know, they play this game off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we need lower taxes, but oh, what are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do about the debt? Well, maybe the government should

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Speaker 1: start spending less money. You know, they want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: This is like the healthcare debate. They want to tell

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Speaker 1: you that everyone's gonna get coverage, but that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to have an individual mandate. Well, that doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm talking about Republicans. Now, forget about Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They're often you know, socialist, stand they're crazy. But the

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Speaker 1: Republicans have problems here, honesty problems because they want to

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Speaker 1: tell us all, oh, I'm talking about the Congress now, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want a tax cut for you guys. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: we can't increase We can't increase the deficit. You know

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Speaker 1: that that's gonna be problem. We can't put too much

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Speaker 1: strain on the deficit. Oh so, well, why don't we

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Speaker 1: cut spending? I don't know, we can't cut spending. Well,

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Speaker 1: which is it going to be? If you can't put

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Speaker 1: more strain on the deficit and you're not willing to

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Speaker 1: cut spending, you're not going to give us tax cuts. Right.

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Speaker 1: We see this just goes in a circle and by

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Speaker 1: the time we figure out what the truth is, they're

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Speaker 1: hoping that it doesn't affect their re election concerns. This

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Speaker 1: is white people have such a low view overall of

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Speaker 1: the Congress because they're all making promises all the time,

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Speaker 1: including I think the repeal of Obamacare that many of

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Speaker 1: them have no intention of keeping. But Trump is out

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Speaker 1: there pushing, he's out there selling, he's out there cajoling, encouraging,

877
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Speaker 1: uh doing everything he can two I think create the

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Speaker 1: political momentum to get some of these agenda items through.

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Speaker 1: And we see something happening today that I think the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration should certainly take a little victory. Lap Is

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Speaker 1: isn't huge, but it's it's an indicator, I think, and

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Speaker 1: even on CNN they're reporting this. Look at that Apple supplier.

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Speaker 1: Fox Con says it's gonna build a Wisconsin factory, and

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Speaker 1: in fact it's it's substantial. Now, fox Con is best

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Speaker 1: known for making iPhones, but from what we see here,

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Speaker 1: it looks like fox Con has agreed two agreed to

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Speaker 1: not make these things in the U to a ten

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Speaker 1: billion dollar investment. It's gonna set up factories in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: and it's a display display panel plant. They make l

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Speaker 1: C d S liquid crystal displays the stuff on your

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Speaker 1: on your computer, stuff on your TV, and your iPhone. UM,

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Speaker 1: and that could create up to thirteen thousand jobs. So

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Speaker 1: here we have remember that that was always one of

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Speaker 1: the UH one of the discussions that would come up

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Speaker 1: over whether US manufacturing could return. They'd say, well, what

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Speaker 1: would cost to make an iPhone in the United States? Well,

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Speaker 1: under current regulations, it would be much more expensive than

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Speaker 1: what you're used to paying if you have an iPhone.

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Speaker 1: But if we change some regulations, create some incentives, maybe

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Speaker 1: we could bring back some of that men or could

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Speaker 1: bring some of that manufacturing here. UM. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: it looks like according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: If it gets these factories and fox Con Technology Group

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Speaker 1: does invest the ten billion dollars, there may be a

905
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Speaker 1: three billion dollar subsidy from the states taxpayers here. But

906
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Speaker 1: this could have a big impact on state elections. And

907
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Speaker 1: it could also start to show that maybe Trump's enthusiasm, encouragement,

908
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Speaker 1: deal making, and just change in tone towards the private

909
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Speaker 1: sector towards US manufacturing might have real measurable impact, might

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Speaker 1: have effects positive ones on the economy and on jobs.

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Speaker 1: So don't expect the immedia to put this in the

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Speaker 1: context of Wow, this could just be the first of

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Speaker 1: many they're gonna say. It hasn't happened yet, it might

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Speaker 1: never happen. Fox Con says this stuff in the past. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well are we are we going to see this at

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Speaker 1: least as encouraging and are we going to give credit

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Speaker 1: where it's due. So here we have Trump saying tax

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Speaker 1: cuts are coming. I hope he's right. Congress obviously has

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Speaker 1: to act there, so he's telling us there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: tax cuts. Well, the Congress come through. He's also, of

921
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Speaker 1: course always talking about jobs, and with this fox Con announcement,

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Speaker 1: it looks like some of that's happening. So we also

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get to uh sanctuary cities. By the way,

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Speaker 1: let me talk to sanctuary cities. And then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the Jeff Sessions situation, and though later will maybe

926
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Speaker 1: return to healthcare. And like I said, Debbie Washerman's assaults,

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Speaker 1: the I T guy fleeing to Pakistan, trying and flee

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Speaker 1: lot of topics still lined up. Your team eight four

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Speaker 1: you would like to call in weigh in on any

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Speaker 1: That's eight hundred nine zero eight sixteen sixteen one zero

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Speaker 1: eight sixteen sixteen. And then they, one by one. We're

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Speaker 1: finding the illegal gang members. Drug deal is the Eaves robbers,

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Speaker 1: criminals and killers, and we're sending them the hell back

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Speaker 1: home where they came from. And once they are gone,

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Speaker 1: we will never let them back in. Believe me. The

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Speaker 1: predators and criminal aliens who poison our communities with drugs

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Speaker 1: and prey on innocent young people these beautiful, beautiful, innocent

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Speaker 1: young people, we'll find no safe haven anywhere in our country.

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Speaker 1: And you've seen the stories about some of these animals.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to because it's too fast and it's

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Speaker 1: not painful enough. So they'll take a young, beautiful girl sixteen,

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Speaker 1: with a knife because they want them to go through

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Speaker 1: excruciating pain before they die. And these are the animals

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Speaker 1: that we've been protecting for so long. Well, they're not

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Speaker 1: being protected any longer, folks. And that is why my

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Speaker 1: administration is launching a nationwide crackdown on sanctuary cities. American

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Speaker 1: cities should be sanctuaries for law abiding Americans, for people

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Speaker 1: that look up to the law, for people that respect

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Speaker 1: the law, not for criminals and gang members that we

976
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: want the hell out of our country. President Trump there

977
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Speaker 1: last night, I don't know how it is rarely talking

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Speaker 1: about sanctuary cities and the criminals specifically. Usually he cites

979
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Speaker 1: the incredibly violent UH gang ms THR ten Mara Salvatruccia.

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Speaker 1: They have been involved in horrific incidents across the country.

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Speaker 1: I know, even some in the DC area. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're they're a gang with with a long reach into

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Speaker 1: this country, and they President trumpas saying he's going to

984
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Speaker 1: send them, He's gonna send them back, He's gonna send

985
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Speaker 1: them from whichever country of origin they come from. And

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Speaker 1: this sanctuary cities fight is going to be a big

987
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Speaker 1: one in the courts. I think, um, I think that

988
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: you're going to see this be a place where once

989
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Speaker 1: again the Democrat Party is exposed for what it is

990
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to have in places like New

991
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: York and California, you're going to have law enforcement officers

992
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Speaker 1: in the sense not like cops, but law enforcement the

993
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Speaker 1: sense of state attorneys general and and UH and local

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Speaker 1: prosecutors offices and and probably even yes, some local UH

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: local police department chiefs and and senior brass are going

996
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: to come out and say that they will not comply

997
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Speaker 1: with the federal government's requests for help in dealing with

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Speaker 1: UH sanctuary city orld in dealing with the legal aliens

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Speaker 1: because of sanctuary city policies. You know, there's been some

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Speaker 1: coverage of it, I will say, because of just what

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00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: a horrific story it is. But earlier this week right

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Speaker 1: outside well it was in a in a parking lot

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Speaker 1: in Texas. They found ten well I think they were

1004
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Speaker 1: close to a hundred people in there. There. There were

1005
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Speaker 1: at least dozens of people in the truck in this

1006
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Speaker 1: tractor trailer, but ten of them died. And it was

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Speaker 1: a human smuggling operation and people were jammed into the

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Speaker 1: back of a cargo truck tractor trailer with no real

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Speaker 1: light and no no water, nothing. You read the stories

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Speaker 1: about it, it's heartbreaking. I mean you have kids in there,

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Speaker 1: women and children, people who are dying from uh dying

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Speaker 1: from heat exposure, um, dying from dehydration, and it went

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: to over a hundred degrees in this tractor trailer. Ten

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Speaker 1: people dead. The driver of the truck is facing at

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Speaker 1: least life in prison. I think actually under statute he

1016
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Speaker 1: could face the death penalty here for this human trafficking

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Speaker 1: than that ended with many people dead. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to also look at the broader policies in

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Speaker 1: this country of what's going on. Why would individuals take

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Speaker 1: that such a such a terrible risk, um, why would

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: they take that risk again into this country. Well, they

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Speaker 1: have a belief that if they can make it into

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Speaker 1: a sanctuary jurisdiction, the United States. They're they're home free.

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Speaker 1: That's it. There's very very little chance that they will

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Speaker 1: be deported. And part of a dare I say, comprehensive

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Speaker 1: immigration policy has to be not just border enforcement per se,

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Speaker 1: meaning that catching people at the border and returning them

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Speaker 1: to their country of origin as they try to cross

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Speaker 1: in illegally, but also interior enforcement, the work of Immigrations

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Speaker 1: and Customs enforcement. This means that people who come across

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Speaker 1: law enforcements radar have been arrested, even for non immigration

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Speaker 1: related crimes, should be reported to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement.

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Speaker 1: That's that's currently what the Congress passed the statute saying

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Speaker 1: just that. And some sanctuary jurisdictions are refusing, others are

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Speaker 1: refusing to hold illegal aliens who are there on detainers

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Speaker 1: or who are asked to be kept under detain a request.

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Speaker 1: And I should also know that the whole notion of

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Speaker 1: referring to undocumented immigrants, I mean, immigration is a process.

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Speaker 1: It is a legal process. So the moment you start

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Speaker 1: to say immigrant, even illegal immigrant, uh, you are conferring

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Speaker 1: a problem. You're you're conferring a legitimacy on the act

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Speaker 1: of coming into this country. That that does not deserve

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Speaker 1: as a matter of law. So while illegal alien has

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Speaker 1: fallen out of favor as a term, particularly on the left,

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Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, the moment you start undocumented immigrant is

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Speaker 1: just it's just farcical as a term. But even illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrants suggests well, but if you're an immigrant, then you're

1048
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Speaker 1: going through the process. Um. Illegal alien is one who

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Speaker 1: is in the country in violation of law. And if

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Speaker 1: you have a sanctuary city that refuses to help the

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Speaker 1: federal government in this regard, it is aiding and abetting lawlessness.

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Speaker 1: That's just what's happening. And when that is allowed to continue,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have people that are trying to get

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Speaker 1: to the country illegally, including through very danger of very

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Speaker 1: dangerous means to themselves, and there will be loss of life.

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Speaker 1: Hundreds of people every year die coming into this country illegally.

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Speaker 1: So we need to look at this comprehensively. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back in just a few Stay with me our lives.

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Speaker 1: Let in here, uh David and Florida on w f

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Speaker 1: l F. Hey David, Hey, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, sir, Thank you for calling in My theory

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Speaker 1: on why we can't get anything done on healthcare is

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Speaker 1: it doesn't affect Congress. You know, they had the best

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Speaker 1: healthcare plan on the planet, and you know if it

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Speaker 1: affected them, they would work probably day and night to

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Speaker 1: get the best plan out there for everybody. I do

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Speaker 1: think it was very telling David that back in the

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Speaker 1: early days when Obamacare was getting past calm, even the

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Speaker 1: Democrats are like, well, I mean, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to have Obamacare, so we're exempt from this, and

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Speaker 1: and and the other thing. My theory is, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys in Congress, even if you

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Speaker 1: vote them out, they still they go out of office,

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Speaker 1: and they still retain their salaries and their benefits. So

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Speaker 1: where's the incentive to do a good job and to

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Speaker 1: give a damn uh? I mean that if somebody told you,

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Speaker 1: you know, you come to work and I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a hundred fifty grand a year and then you

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Speaker 1: lead or you're gonna be replaced, but I'm still going

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Speaker 1: to give you a hundred fifty grand a year and

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Speaker 1: your insurance. I mean, most people are not going to

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Speaker 1: do a good job, but not really going to care.

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Speaker 1: I think that Congress doesn't someone needs to uh metaphorically

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Speaker 1: speaking light of fire and get things going here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's not enough to just hope that Congress

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Speaker 1: will act. I think they need to to hear from

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Speaker 1: the American people. I think they need to we need

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Speaker 1: to light up the switchboard over there. And because I'm

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Speaker 1: about to get into what's going on, it is not good, David,

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Speaker 1: what's happening with the Senate Republicans on health or it's

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Speaker 1: not good Man Shields high though, thank you for calling in.

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Speaker 1: Look PoTA potas pardon me, well, that's what we can

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Speaker 1: call them. But the President, President Trump last night said

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Speaker 1: the following about Democrats. It's time for Democrats to stop resisting.

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Speaker 1: That's that term. Reasons, reasons they have to do, finally

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Speaker 1: what's right for the American people. But probably we'll do

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Speaker 1: it ourselves. Okay, I'm with them on that. And they're

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Speaker 1: doing everything they can to obstruct. Now, Republicans tried to

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Speaker 1: slow down an obstructor Obama's agenda. I I don't think

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Speaker 1: that they were using the equivalent of like congressional bathroom

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Speaker 1: breaks in order to do it, but you know, which

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Speaker 1: is what the Democrats are looking for. Every procedural trick

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Speaker 1: in the book and refusing to staff put through Trump

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Speaker 1: nominees for political appointee positions. I'll be talking to you

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Speaker 1: later on the show about what's going on with the

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Speaker 1: State Department and Rex Tillerson and the internal policy revolt

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Speaker 1: against Tillerson in the White House at at State at

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Speaker 1: Foggy Bottom. No surprise, by the way, no surprise at

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Speaker 1: all that's happening. Uh. My My experience with the folks

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Speaker 1: at Foggy Bottom is always they think very highly of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Hello Foggy Bottom. Uh. And also I said we talked

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Speaker 1: to Debbie, Debbie wasser Schultz. I t that's coming up

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Speaker 1: to it. I just want to keep that out there,

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Speaker 1: so make sure that we do hit that story. We will.

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Speaker 1: But so Trump is saying Democrats need to stop resisting. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: here's my problem. Uh, it's not Democrats that are in

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Speaker 1: the way right now on healthcare. It is Republicans they

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Speaker 1: had today. I mentioned this the very start of the show,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to return to it. I know we're

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Speaker 1: we're bouncing around a lot today. I'm trying to make

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Speaker 1: sure we keep a structure here for our topics. But

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm fired up and I'm moving all over the place. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they had a straight line repeal, a straight repeal vote,

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Speaker 1: and it was fifty five to forty five against the

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Speaker 1: against the amendment. Seven in Republicans opposed it. The forty

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Speaker 1: six Democrats and two independent senators all voted against the measure.

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Speaker 1: Seven Republicans in the Senate would not go along with

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Speaker 1: a straight repeal um. So the straight repeal amendment was

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Speaker 1: offered up by Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. So, now now

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Speaker 1: we know, I mean, there's no you don't have full repeal. Um.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's who voted in opposition. Republicans Susan Collins of Maine,

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Speaker 1: Shelley Capital of West Virginia, John McCain of Arizona, Rob

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Speaker 1: Portman of Ohio, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,

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Speaker 1: and Dean Heller of Nevada. Seven Republicans, I mean, almost

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Speaker 1: almost a fifth. I mean, maybe I'm pushing that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but a good chunk of the Senate GOP

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Speaker 1: membership not willing to go forward on an Obamacare repeal.

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Speaker 1: What to do about this? I suppose they figure that

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Speaker 1: in their home states they will be rewarded for this,

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Speaker 1: or maybe they just think this was the principal thing

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Speaker 1: to do. I have a feeling if we go back,

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Speaker 1: certainly and look at some of these senators and their

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Speaker 1: records and their public pronouncements on Obamacare, I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling that they were all about repeal in the place

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Speaker 1: when that was, when that was politically profitable for them,

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Speaker 1: when that was the way to go. And now here

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Speaker 1: they are saying they won't go along with the repeal vote. Okay. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you've got this going on, and the Democrats are just

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Speaker 1: openly talking about single payer. This is the last gasp

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Speaker 1: but we're going through now is the last gas for

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Speaker 1: private health insurance in America. As far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: If we can't make this work with the private health

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Speaker 1: insurance industry, we start moving closer to a Medicare model.

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Speaker 1: From my point of view, Medicare has a lot of

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Speaker 1: positive things to offer the American people. How many folks

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Speaker 1: say darn it. Now I qualify for Medicare, most of

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Speaker 1: them say, hooray, I don't have to worry about pre

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Speaker 1: existing conditions. I've paid into it. I can get the

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Speaker 1: best hospitals and doctors, and I have peace of mind.

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Speaker 1: That's what people are looking for in health insurance, and

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Speaker 1: if the private health insurance industry can't make the current

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Speaker 1: approach work, we're moving closer and closer to the single

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Speaker 1: payer option. Should note that that was democratic whip whip

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Speaker 1: dick Durban this we were we were told that that

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Speaker 1: was not what Democrats wanted at the time, right, and

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Speaker 1: that Obama at the when they were trying to push

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Speaker 1: through Obamacare, was aware of the political reality of the time,

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Speaker 1: and it was such that it would not have been

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Speaker 1: feasible to sell to the American people a single payer

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Speaker 1: system be us. It sounds too much like socialized medicine

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Speaker 1: or moves too much in the direction of socialized medicine.

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Speaker 1: As listeners of this show, no, single payer is not

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Speaker 1: in fact, socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is what they have

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Speaker 1: in the UK, and it's where you have the government

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Speaker 1: and control of the hospitals to doctors. The actual care

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: providers are government employees. The v A in this country

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Speaker 1: is what socialized medicine in the Western European developed world

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Speaker 1: context would be like. And those of you who have

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Speaker 1: had extensive experience with the v A, I'm sure when

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Speaker 1: of all kinds of stories to share with us about

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Speaker 1: what that means. But that's just even talking about the

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Speaker 1: efficacy of delivering care, the effect of the ability to

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Speaker 1: deliver care through a socialized medicine system, never mind the expense,

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Speaker 1: and the expense is vast, it is ruinous lee expensive.

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Speaker 1: People say, oh, well, the UK is not is not

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Speaker 1: completely underwater, and you know, look at what's going on

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Speaker 1: over there. Well, first of all, what would it be

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Speaker 1: like if they didn't have a What would the UK's

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Speaker 1: economy be like if they did not have the healthcare

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Speaker 1: system that they do and they also do by the way,

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Speaker 1: and this is true in Canada as well. The private

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Speaker 1: healthcare markets uh pop up and do exist alongside because

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Speaker 1: people who have money don't want to be stuck in

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Speaker 1: that system. So and I think that would probably happen

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Speaker 1: here as well. But we're not even going to a

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Speaker 1: socialized medicine uh debate just yet. Where we are now

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Speaker 1: is if Republicans can't do anything about Obamacare, how can

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Speaker 1: they make the argument against single payer? You see, you'll

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Speaker 1: notice Democrats are all in agreement right now that there

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Speaker 1: are problems with Obamacare. They want to fix it. How

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Speaker 1: do they want to fix it? More money? More money,

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Speaker 1: in a sense, would fix it. More money is just

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Speaker 1: another way of getting us closer to well, if we're

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Speaker 1: going to be spending all this money on if the

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Speaker 1: government's gonna be spending all this money on healthcare, why

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Speaker 1: not just have the government spending the money on healthcare

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Speaker 1: is in writing the checks for all of us to

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Speaker 1: healthcare providers, as they do with Medicare. Single pair problems

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Speaker 1: with that of court, Well, I mean the expense of

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Speaker 1: this would just be would be completely on We would

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Speaker 1: be impossible to bear that burden financially for the country,

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Speaker 1: which I guess Democrats just figure no one will crunch

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Speaker 1: the numbers, or nobody will care, or or maybe that

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Speaker 1: it's so popular to have someone else paying your healthcare

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Speaker 1: bills that it won't matter what the cost is. We

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Speaker 1: saw California look at this recently and it was over.

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Speaker 1: It was over three billion dollars. It was bigger than

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Speaker 1: the entire budget to get to single pair in one

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Speaker 1: state was bigger than the entire state budget, all of

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Speaker 1: it combined, schools, schools, police, fire everything, transportation, administrations, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff everything. So yeah, it would be really really pricey.

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Speaker 1: But Democrats are speaking about it openly. UM. And you'll

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Speaker 1: notice that, unfortunately, it's pretty good tactics on their part.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because they don't really have an effective

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Speaker 1: they don't have particularly effective spokespersons right now intellected Office

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Speaker 1: for Healthcare. That's one part of it. But also I

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Speaker 1: think they just want to allow Republicans to stumble and

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Speaker 1: stumble and trip and make a mess of things in

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Speaker 1: front of the American people in this healthcare bill. This

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Speaker 1: is the The reality here is that Republicans are doing

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01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: all the work for the Democrats right now. They didn't

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Speaker 1: pass repeal. It doesn't look like they're going to. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they try a skinny repeal, which is another way of

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Speaker 1: saying pair down Obamacare or you know, slim down. They

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Speaker 1: call it skinny bill, slim down Obamacare bill. UM. And

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Speaker 1: they promise in the future, next next time they'll be strong,

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Speaker 1: next time they'll be principal, it will really happen. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't see it happening. Um. And the effects

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Speaker 1: of this in the midterms have to be profound. You'd

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: have to think ink that if Republicans don't pass anything, well,

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 1: what's what's the They've got to unified, they've got across

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: the board GOP majority, House and Senate, and they've got

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: a Republican in the White House who will sign whatever

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Speaker 1: the Congress puts in front of them on healthcare if

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Speaker 1: they can't get anything done. I don't even I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how they spin that other than we are,

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Speaker 1: we are incompetent, and we lie to you and you know,

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Speaker 1: vote for us. Anyway, maybe that's the bumper stick, or

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Speaker 1: some of them will go with it. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised at this point before I am going to get

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Speaker 1: into this whole Sessions situation. Actually, you know what, I'll

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Speaker 1: do that now, Okay, So and maybe I'll talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more in the next segment. And I gotta

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Speaker 1: drop some things on the on the cutter room floor

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Speaker 1: here as we go through. Too much to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: So Jeff Sessions is in the midst of a it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a rough week for the Attorney general. Although

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Speaker 1: I should note that this is the most criticism of

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Speaker 1: the most criticism of Donald Trump that I've seen from

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Speaker 1: really true Trump supporters has been over this Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: issue so far. Um, here's here's what uh he wrote

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. Donald Trump wrote on Twitter, which is

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Speaker 1: now how we're seeing presidential pronouncements, right. We see this

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: come up on Twitter, and that's what we've got. Why

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Speaker 1: didn't A. G. Sessions replace acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe,

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Speaker 1: a Combie friend who was in charge of Clinton investigation

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 1: but got big dollars seven hundred thousand for his wife's

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Speaker 1: political run from Hillary Clinton and her representatives. Drain the

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Speaker 1: swamp exclamation point. So you have more here from the

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Speaker 1: president that is a critical of Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not sure what reports to believe

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Speaker 1: on this, because we've already had We've already had some

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Speaker 1: who are saying that Sessions and Trump reporters writing that

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Speaker 1: Sessions and Trump are really at odds over this, that

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Speaker 1: they're not speaking. You see these other reports that I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much credibility to give them that there

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Speaker 1: are talks going on about who would replace Sessions. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Rudy Giuliani has come up in that

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Speaker 1: conversation as well as other names. But I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting, you know, Trey Gaudy, who is a member

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Speaker 1: of the House that I really um, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I don't like politicians in the sense that I don't

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Speaker 1: know them and they're not my friends. But you know,

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Speaker 1: and admire might be too strong. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect for I have a lot of respect for

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Speaker 1: That's the That's the best way I can think of

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Speaker 1: to say it. A lot of respect for Tray Gaudy. UM.

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Speaker 1: And he was on I don't know which shows, on

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Speaker 1: one of the TV shows this morning, and I saw

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Speaker 1: him and he talked about this issue with Jeff Sessions.

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Speaker 1: And here here's what he said, Well, you should immediately

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Speaker 1: leave any country where I was the attorney general. UM.

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Speaker 1: I would not say um if my employer had lost

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Speaker 1: confidence and may But on the other hand, Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Sessions may believe that he is doing the job the

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Speaker 1: way he is supposed to. He doesn't work for the president.

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Speaker 1: He works for a windfolded woman holding a set of scale.

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Speaker 1: So he's got to make that call. Um. It's a

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Speaker 1: very difficult circumstance. And again I view that job differently

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Speaker 1: than I do Secretary Commerce, Secretary of Agriculture. It is

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking to me, as a former d J employee, to

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Speaker 1: see public squabbling between the commander in chief and the

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Speaker 1: nation's top law enforcement officer. I would agree, especially because

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Speaker 1: I think that Sessions has shown himself to be highly

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Speaker 1: ethical and a a gentleman and loyalty administration and also

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Speaker 1: the American people the whole time he's held this job.

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Speaker 1: You know, he left a very safe seat in Alabama

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Speaker 1: and a sentence seat to take the job. I know

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Speaker 1: Trump gave that an interview the Wall Street Journal. I

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Speaker 1: just have to think that this is part of this

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Speaker 1: is part of a Trump strata of Jim and I

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: can't pretend to know the president's mind. I think there

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: are very few people who would publicly think that they

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: publicly say that they could know the president's mind. I

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: think that he's an enigma to a lot of folks,

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: even those who are immediately around him and working with him. UM.

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Speaker 1: But getting rid of Sessions, to me, would be a

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Speaker 1: bad idea. I know a lot of other conservatives in

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Speaker 1: the media ecosystem have been saying the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see how that would serve his would serve

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Speaker 1: his purpose, and I don't think he's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: I know I said that to you yesterday. I do

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Speaker 1: understand the frustration with the UH, with the with the

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Speaker 1: recusal decision, UM and I've seen a lot of legal

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Speaker 1: minds that I respect saying that it was it was

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Speaker 1: the right move under the circumstances because Sessions was involved

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Speaker 1: with the campaign. But you know, I mean, recusal is

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Speaker 1: a judgment call, recusal is not is not a black

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Speaker 1: and white issue. It's not obvious necessarily. And I think

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Speaker 1: that president's very frustrated because all this Russia stuff just

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: continues to go on and on. I think there shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a special counsel. I've said that to you all along,

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Speaker 1: and so you get to this place where, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: president's venting, his venting his irritation publicly about what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Attorney general and the Russia investigations. But

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Speaker 1: I don't see him firing Sessions. I think that would

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a mistake. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to make of all these reports saying that

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: it's really close to happening, And you know, you're he's

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Speaker 1: every day is just one more day when a Session's

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01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: firing could could occur. I just I gotta think who

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: would take that job. By the way, after that, it

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: would be I don't know, not not a lot of

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: top of the line folks I think would be excited

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: to be the next one, especially given what they're walking

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Speaker 1: into with a special counsel and everything else. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But the Sessions Trump feud, I'm hoping it ends soon

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01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: because Sessions is a good man and we need to

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: focus on some other things here. We will coming up.

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Speaker 1: Stay with me. He's back with you now because us

1351
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck

1352
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: never stops. Tam. I've got some late breaking news today

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Speaker 1: for you. Very interesting uh d o J update. We're

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: just talking about Sessions, the attorney general a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: Here here's I gotta give you some background. I I

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: just was reading into this one myself, so let's let

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: me set the stage. But here's the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: that the federal government, in the Trump administration, the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice, is taking the position now that when you

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Speaker 1: refer to discrimination on the basis of sex, that has

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Speaker 1: to do with male female, not sexual orientation. It also

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Speaker 1: does not have to do with gender identity. So that

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Speaker 1: Title seven of the Civil Rights Act, which bars discrimination

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Speaker 1: on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, and national origin,

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Speaker 1: does not include as a matter of law, does not

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Speaker 1: include discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. So it

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Speaker 1: is does not include what we considered gay rights issues

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Speaker 1: and does not include gender identity. I people that believe

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Speaker 1: that they are another gender transgender is Um, here's the

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Speaker 1: the case. Um. The case is, well, it's already been

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Speaker 1: looked at once and now this is going to an

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Speaker 1: on on bank review. Somebody was fired back in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: I believe the cases Zarda, the Altitude Express. The plaintiff

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Speaker 1: is the estate of deceased New York skydiver Donald Zarda,

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Speaker 1: and this is according the Washington Blade, and he was

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Speaker 1: fired from his job in two for being gay. A

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Speaker 1: three panel judge on the Second Circuit in April determined

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Speaker 1: Title seven doesn't prohibit anti gay discrimination and therefore doesn't

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Speaker 1: apply to Zarta's case. So now the court is looking

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Speaker 1: at the Second Circuit is looking on Bank, meaning all

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Speaker 1: the judges get together before the full Court, and the

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Speaker 1: Justice Department meaning our d o J currently under the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, led by Jeff Sessions, has already weighed in

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Speaker 1: on this issue and they have said the following. Although

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Speaker 1: the Equal Opportunity Commission enforces Title seven against private employers,

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Speaker 1: and it has filed an amicus brief and support of

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Speaker 1: the employee. Here, the E E O C is not

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Speaker 1: speaking for the United States and its position about the

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Speaker 1: scope of Title seven, and is entitled to no defference

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Speaker 1: beyond its power to persuade. The United States submits that number.

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Speaker 1: This is so. This is the d o J. Speaking

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Speaker 1: or writing that the on Bank Court should affirm reaffirm

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Speaker 1: it's settled precedent holding consistent with the longstanding position of

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice that Title seven does not reach

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Speaker 1: discrimination based on sexual orientation until recently. This court's well

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Speaker 1: established position correctly reflects the plain meaning of the statute,

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming weight and reasoning of the case law, and

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Speaker 1: the clear Congressional ratification of that interpretation. The question presented

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Speaker 1: is not whether, as a matter of policy, sexual orientation

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Speaker 1: discrimination should be prohibited by statute, regulations or employer action.

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01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: In fact, Congress and the executive branch have prohibited such

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Speaker 1: discrimination in various contexts. The sole question here is whether,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of law, Title seven reaches sexual orientation discrimination.

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Speaker 1: It does not, as has been selled for decades. Any

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Speaker 1: efforts to amend Title seven scope should be directed to

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Speaker 1: Congress rather than the courts. Let me give you the

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Speaker 1: the plain language summary here of what's going on. So,

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration and Eric Holder had determined that Title

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Speaker 1: seven covered gender identity discrimination as well as sexual orientation

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Speaker 1: discrimination against. So essentially, discrimination against the LGBT community in

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Speaker 1: any context is covered under Title seven of keep in

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Speaker 1: mind the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, which discriminates

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Speaker 1: based on race, color, religion, sex, and national origin. What

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01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: they were saying is, well, sex there means whatever we

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Speaker 1: wanted to mean. Sex there means sexual orientation, it means

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Speaker 1: gender identity. And quite plainly, based on what they were

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Speaker 1: trying to achieve, what Congress trying to achieve in nineteen four,

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Speaker 1: and based on what the word indicates, uh, that does

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Speaker 1: not cover sexual orientation and it does not cover gender identity.

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Speaker 1: So how can the Department of Justice, and as was

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Speaker 1: the case in the obamaministration with Eric Holder as the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General in this instance, just decide that it does

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01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: well because that was their preferred policy outcome. So what

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Speaker 1: you have now is the d o J coming out

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Speaker 1: and saying no words have meaning. This is what the

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Speaker 1: word in the statute says. A court has already agreed,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that that's what the word or that's

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Speaker 1: what the word means in the context of the sentence,

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: and that just because we may like something or not

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: like something, it doesn't mean that the judicial branch or

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the executive branch in this case, um

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: should just change the plain meaning of war of a

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01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: word because it suits it. This is really a case

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: about whether words in the law have meaning or not.

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01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: Do they mean what we want them to mean, what

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: we want them mean, or do they or and by

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: the way, whether we want them to mean that or not,

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: as a separate issue. But I what I'm saying is,

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01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: do you get to just say, well, I want this

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Speaker 1: word to mean something, and I'm in charge, so that's

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01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: what it means. Because that was what the Obama administration

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: did it. The DJ is even saying, look, we're not

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Speaker 1: we're not claiming that you shouldn't be able to bar

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Speaker 1: sexual orientation discrimination. We're not saying shouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: or you shouldn't bar discrimination against sexual orientation or gender identity.

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Speaker 1: We're just saying that's not what Title seven of the

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Speaker 1: Civil Rights access. And so if you're gonna bring a

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Speaker 1: lawsuit and say that this is Title seven discrimination and

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01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in federal court, You've got a problem

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: because that's not what the law says. This is one

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: of the fundamental disconnects between left and right. This is

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: an issue of progressives with their living constitution and their

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: judicial fiat and their decisions from the bench that are

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01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: usurping the prerogative of the legislature. They think that words

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01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: mean what they want them to mean. And here's a

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01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: case square. This Department of Justice, under this president of

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01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: President Trump is saying not. Actually, words means something, and

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01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: it is objective, and we can define it and we

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01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: should and that's what the basis of law is. This

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: is a very important decision, but people are gonna be

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: very out about it on the left. Let's talk about

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her I t Aid coming up

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01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: here in a second. Stay with me, you know, team.

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01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: With all of the stuff happening this week, this seems

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: to have gotten lost and the major TV networks aren't

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01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: touching it at all. You had somebody try to flee

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01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: the country recently, an individual who is under indictment for

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01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: multiple federal felonies, who was working for Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

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Speaker 1: She who was formerly the head of the d n

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Speaker 1: C and a congresswoman from Florida. Her I T guy

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Speaker 1: was caught trying to flee the country. And there's all

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Speaker 1: kinds of very interesting and unsettling details in this case

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: that you're not going to hear about for many places

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01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: at all. We've brought somebody on who can tell you

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Speaker 1: just what's going on here, Luke Rosiac. He's an investigative

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01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: reporter at the Daily Caller. He's got an exclusive on

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01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: Daily Caller dot com. FBI cs smashed hard drives from

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01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: Wasserman olds I T Aids home and also Wasserman Schultz

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Speaker 1: is I T eight arrested at airport after transferring three

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Speaker 1: k to Pakistan from house office. Luke, great to have you,

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01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 1: and what the heck is going on here? It really

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: is like a story out of a Tom Clancy novel. Uh.

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01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: Is this guy named Imaran A Juan who was Debbie

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Speaker 1: Wasserman Schultz is top I T guy for many years.

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Speaker 1: I was arrested at Dullest Airport outside of d C

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Speaker 1: on Monday night trying to board a plane into Pakistan.

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Speaker 1: The FBI arrested him. Uh. He had previously done a

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Speaker 1: wire transfer for three hundred thousand dollars from the bank

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Speaker 1: that's in a house office building to Pakistan. UH now

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Speaker 1: his wife, who was also a congressional employee, both were

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Speaker 1: making a hundred and sixty five thousand dollars in taxpayer money.

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Speaker 1: His wife previously left the country and went to Pakistan. Authorities.

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Speaker 1: UH did search her bag when she was leaving and

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Speaker 1: they found twelve thousand dollars in cash, but they permitted

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Speaker 1: her to board for whatever reason. I was back in March.

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Speaker 1: So she's been waiting in Pakistan with the three hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for months now, but her husband was napped

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Speaker 1: by the FBI as he tried to join her just

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Speaker 1: on Monday night. Can you give us some of the

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Speaker 1: additional background here in terms of this individual, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: it's really a few individuals, but there's one in particular,

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Speaker 1: this I T aid, and it's some family members of

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Speaker 1: his as well, right, And they've been doing work on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill for some very senior Democrats, including Debbie Wasserman Schultz,

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Speaker 1: stretching back over years. I think I saw that they've

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Speaker 1: in total been paid four million dollars in order to

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Speaker 1: provide i T services on Capitol Hill, which also, by

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Speaker 1: the way, would have given them access to all the emails.

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Speaker 1: So the I T people that are going back and

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Speaker 1: forth with the congressmen, right, I mean, so there's there's

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Speaker 1: some real history here to this, that's right. Amron's job

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Speaker 1: was to be the email administrator. He was the one

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Speaker 1: who set up the email accounts for. Uh. There's several

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Speaker 1: members of Congress for whom he worked, as well as

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Speaker 1: all their staff, and of course that means he could

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Speaker 1: access and read any of the emails sent and received,

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Speaker 1: as well as all files stored on the computers of

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Speaker 1: those members and those staffers. Uh W Washman Schultz was

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Speaker 1: one of the first members he's worked for, way back

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: in two thousand five. He joined his staff, her staff,

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Speaker 1: and he's been with her ever since. Um. But shortly

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01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,799
Speaker 1: after he joined her staff, all of his relatives started

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Speaker 1: appearing on the payroll of other House Democrats at salaries

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Speaker 1: that were much much higher than an I T guy

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Speaker 1: would typically make. We're talking a hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, which only chiefs of staff make

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Speaker 1: in the Capitol Hill world. Um, and these guys, we're

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Speaker 1: not by all accounts, everyone I've talked to they weren't

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Speaker 1: seen working. Um. One of the guys, his last job experience,

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: according to housemate of his, was working at McDonald's. And

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01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: yet House Democrats were paying this guy to be there,

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01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: are I T guy and they were signing off on

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Speaker 1: the paychecks month after month. So part of what's going

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Speaker 1: on here appears to be although the investigation is still

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Speaker 1: going on, it seems like it was a ghost employee scheme.

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Speaker 1: You could say where Im ram Mwuan who you could

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Speaker 1: say was he's the eldest brother, and he could say

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01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: he's the ring leader. He puts all these relatives on

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Speaker 1: the payroll to bring in literally four million dollars since

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01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Uh. But of course members of Congress

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01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: were having to consent to this now. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: Im Rom is doing a variety of other weird uh

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01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: financial schemes in his personal life, and some of them

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: overlap with the house. For example, while they're all making

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Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty five thousand dollars working on the hill,

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01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: they're running this car dealership or an LLC that says

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: it's a car dealership in Virginia. And this deal a

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01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,560
Speaker 1: ship takes a hundred thousand dollar loan from an Iranian fugitive.

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Speaker 1: So these are not your ordinary uh I T guys,

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Speaker 1: and they are Pakistani warren, but they're not your average

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: Most Pakistani's who are in America are just normal guys

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01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: as well, and these are not that there was any

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Speaker 1: number of red flags. I mean, they had bankruptcy, they

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: had criminal records, so they're working with all the emails

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01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that can access all this sensitive information, and they've got debts,

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01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: uh all these kind of things that normally, when you're

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01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: going to provide someone with access to sensitive information as

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01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: part of your job, you would check for that. Um

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01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: So a lot of really strange things, and yet year

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01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: after year, these guys remained on the staff in these

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Speaker 1: very sensitive positions until it all sort of started to

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01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: unravel this year. We're speaking of Luke Rosyack. He's an

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01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: investigative reporter at the Daily Caller. He has an exclusive

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01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: up on the Daily Caller dot com right now, and

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01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about this FBI c smashed hard drives from

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: washerman Schultz I t Aid's home. Wasn't there also like

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Speaker 1: a hidden laptop but they found somewhere too. I Mean,

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01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: there's some very shady. I don't have answers as to

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01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: why it shady or what's going on, but Luke will

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01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: tell us about this shadiness as I'm calling it. There's

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01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: some weird stuff happening here. Not bleach bit per se,

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01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: but you know baseball bats to hard drives that seems unusual. Yeah,

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01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: you know. The Capitol Police announced the criminal investigation back

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Speaker 1: in February, and they told members of Congress that Imaranowan

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01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: and his relatives were the suspects in this criminal probe

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01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: and that they were banned from touching house computers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that would be a big story at

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01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: the time, particularly when I did some basic investigative research

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01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: on these guys and I saw their court filings. They

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: have been involved in so many different lawsuits and a

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01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of people have accused in the fraud. In the past,

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01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: they had the bankruptcies, they've had, you know, different run

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01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: ins with the law and minor different things, um, things

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01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: that were typically red flags. And then in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: the latest allegations, which uh, you know were said to

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01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: involve breaches of cybersecurity. Basically, um, the investigation is involving

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01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: um suspicion that they were funneling UM files off site.

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01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: And then I see I did tell me that. Um,

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01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, basically they were sending members files to a

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Speaker 1: secret server that was outside of the House of Representatives.

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01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: So when all these things were going on, I thought

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Speaker 1: certainly this would be Sorry Luke Ho, can you can

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: you just repeat that part? They were moving files off

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01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: site and that was a big that's a big issue,

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01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: right what happened? Yeah, so these guys could read all

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01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,839
Speaker 1: emails sent and received, and they had such a suspicious background.

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01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: And then, uh, what we're hearing, what I've heard from sources, uh,

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01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 1: is that basically they were sending UM congressional data off

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01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: site onto a secret server. We like, what, so why

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01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: would is there any is there any harmless justification that

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01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: that anyone has raised as to why they would do that? Um,

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01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anyone. People just have not really been

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01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: engaging with this story much. One relatively innocuous explanation I

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01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: could think of was that these were no show jobs

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01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 1: and they wanted to basically have the computers be based

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01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: out of their house so that if one broke, they

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01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: could fix up enough. You know, that's speculating, and even

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01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: so it would be in massive violation of the rules

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01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: surrounding how security. I mean, they have a way of

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01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: doing things there. You can't just say you're going to

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01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: host Yeah, I mean this is like the server, This

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01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: is like the Hillary server in the bathroom all over

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01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 1: again exactly. And you know, Politico has reported a little

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01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: bit about this. They said that the Capitol Police are

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01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: doing a criminal investigation into serious and potentially illegal cyber breaches. Um.

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01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 1: But overall, people haven't been talking about this, and I

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01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: think you know what we're hearing about Russia and other

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01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: cyber attacks, and they're having others as well. For example,

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01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: O p M was attacked. I think it was China

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01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: that attacked that government agency. And this is part of

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01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 1: the pattern. And if you care about one, you should

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01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: care about the others. I mean, ultimately, this is about

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01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: national security rather than partisanship. But um, the members did

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01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: play a role here and that's something that's going to

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01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: be determined because again, I mean, they kept these guys

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01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: on the payroll for years. After a year. Uh. And

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01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: to get back to a question you asked a little

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01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: bit ago. Um, at one point the Capitol Police did

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01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: seize the laptop from they would found this laptop stashed

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01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: in an abandoned house office building and it was had

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: been used by im ROB. So the Capitol Police seized

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01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: it and they wanted to look at it, and Wasserman

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01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Schultz claimed it was hers and that she was blocking

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01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: the police from looking at it by saying, that's my

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01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: property and I'm not going to allow you to search

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01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: this evidence. And there's this bizarre video exchange and the

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01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: televised hearing and you can see it on Daily Caller

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01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: dot com where she tells the chief of the Capitol Police,

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Speaker 1: if you don't give me back this laptop, there's going

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01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: to be consequences. Uh. And so it is kind of

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01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: similar to what we did see with the d n

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01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: C where they never did turn and that server over

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01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: to the FBI said that they could um investigate and

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01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: hold responsible to hackers. Why why would a very senior,

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01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: well known congresswoman in former d n C chair threatened

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01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: the chief of Capital Police over looking at a laptop

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01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: that was tied to the shady individuals that she had.

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01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, again, I can't think of an innocuous reason

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01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: for it. It seems very odd. Yeah. And again, when

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01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: I when this story first came to my attention, I

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01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting no matter what. But I thought

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01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: what was had occurred is that these Democrats had hired

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01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: some guys that turned out to be no good and

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01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: they basically were stealing more information. And I thought, certainly

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01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: the Democrats would fiercely condemn them and seek prosecution to

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law. But what we've seen

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01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:53,799
Speaker 1: instead is basically members have very much tried to ignore

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01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: this story. They say it's no big deal, maybe it's

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01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding. Some people have even said some members of

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Speaker 1: Congress US for example, this guy Gregory Meeks of New

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01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: York and said it's probably because of Islamophobia, because these

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Speaker 1: guys happen to be Muslims. Right. Of course, I've seen

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Speaker 1: the evidence, and a lot of it is um the

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01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: court documents that are online, and now we have an

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01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: FBI affid David, and it's pretty hard to argue with

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Speaker 1: the facts. I mean, just objectively, there were some very

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Speaker 1: real security concerns here in The reaction that we saw

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Speaker 1: from the members who were employing these guys was not

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Speaker 1: really diligent and security conscious to say the least. Yeah, absolutely, well, look,

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Speaker 1: look keep us updated on this all right, as you

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01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 1: get more. We'd love to have you back. As as

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01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,440
Speaker 1: follow up to the story, Luke ros each Everybody investigative

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01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: report at the Daily Caller. Go to Daily Caller dot

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01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: com for his exclusive on the FBI looking at this

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Speaker 1: former senior I t aid to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Luke,

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Speaker 1: thanks again for joining. Great to have you any time,

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Speaker 1: uh team, we are going to hit a break here

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Speaker 1: bug sext in his bag. Very interesting report out of

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Speaker 1: the Washington Free Beacon and our friend Adam Crado down

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Speaker 1: there says that the State Department is in a state

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Speaker 1: of open war with the White House. Goes into some

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Speaker 1: details here about how sources are saying the State Department

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Speaker 1: or the State Department bureaucracy is ignoring directives from the

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Speaker 1: White House, and that there are people who are working

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Speaker 1: for the State Department, so they are collecting a federal

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Speaker 1: government paycheck. They are employees of the Executive branch, and

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Speaker 1: they're taking it upon themselves to ignore the orders and

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Speaker 1: directives and guidance of the White House and Secretary of

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01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: State Rex Tillerson, as you may have already read in

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01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 1: recent months, because occasionally the media will just decide that

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01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 1: it's time once again to run one of these stories

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01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: about supposed Trump administration dysfunction. There have been a series

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01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 1: or there are a number of State Department positions, senior

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01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: ones that are on filled, and this is now of

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01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: course leading to people to say that the State Department

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01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: is not being treated properly by the Trump administration and

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01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: that there are all these problems with the fancy elitist

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01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: diplomats of Foggy Bottom not getting along with the Trump

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01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,719
Speaker 1: administration because Trump is dismissive of them, or is unwilling

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01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: to see it from their perspective, or whatever it may be.

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01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 1: This is, by the way, completely unsurprising as somebody who

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01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: has known and has has known plenty of State Department

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01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: people and is quite familiar with how a lot of

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01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: State Department stuff goes down. Um, it's a very left

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01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: wing place. I mean, the predominant ethos in the State

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01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: Department politically speaking, is pro Hillary Clinton, pro Democrat party,

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01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 1: and and there's even a fair amount of internationalist sander

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01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Nista Bernie Sanders sentiment among State employees that I have

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01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: known and and certainly heard speaking and seen out there

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01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: on the cable news and everywhere else that they make

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: the rounds. So that Foggy Bottom, which is of course

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01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: DC shorthand for uh, the State Department, that Foggy Bottom

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01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: is in something of a quiet revolt against the Trump

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01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: administration is completely unsurprising, as I said, and this is

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01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 1: to be expected, but the way that it's reported, I

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01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: think is really interesting and noteworthy. First of all, you

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01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: will see, of course, that there have been stories in

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01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: the past that you may not consider to be fake news,

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01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: but as I like to say, it is false news,

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01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: stories about mass resignations from different different government bureaucracies. And

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01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 1: there were, to be sure, some stories that were just breathless.

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01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: This this was back in January. Uh the State Department

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01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: is a quote Washington Post, the State Department's entire senior

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01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 1: administrative team just resigned. Oh well. The problem with this

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01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: story was that it just ignored what is standard practice

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01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: for the State Department, and that there were uh, that

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01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: there were even stories about a coordinated mass, coordinated mass resignation. No,

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01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: that's in fact not true. There were just some people

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01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: who were asked for their letters of recommend letters recommendation,

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01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: letters of resignation by the president. So these were political appointments.

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01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: They are not career appointees, or rather they're not career

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01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: is they're not civil servants. These were political appointments that ended.

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01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: A new administration came in. And I mean, you had

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01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: CNN reporting on this, you had the Washington Post, the

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01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: entire state departments resigning. It's just terrible. Well, it wasn't true.

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01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 1: And of course you'd have to ask the question, why

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01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: would they get this story so wrong? One of the

1743
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: most important questions you can ask about any Trump related

1744
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: fake news story is why did they get this wrong?

1745
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: Is it because it was a difficult story where the

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01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: facts were hard to ascertain, or is it because, sure enough,

1747
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: the anti Trump animus is so strong, it is such

1748
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: a powerful force in the media that they will either

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01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: actively lie or they will make very obvious and very

1750
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: rookie mistakes because they're just so excited at the prospect

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01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: of negative news about the Trump administration. With the State Department,

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01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a take your pick. With the stories

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01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: we've seen about State and the dysfunction that the that

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01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: the Trump administration has caused. Did I just say the

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01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: abadministration of Minutigo, I might have, but the Trump administrations

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01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: what I've been talking about, uh, and the mass resignation

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01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: story was fake. And now sure enough we have people

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01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 1: writing about the internal policy civil war within the State Department.

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01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: And I have to say, this is one of those

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01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: places where we we will see and you'll see more

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01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: of this as well as time goes on. Although I've

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01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: also noticed there are some reports that Rex Tillerson may

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01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: not be staying around State partiment all along, which I'd

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01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: find completely uh that that would not in any way

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01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: shock me. State Department is a huge bureaucracy best own

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01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: for the for the much repeated by other government employees

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01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: phrase of the State Department, that quote, the State Department

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01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: was here before the president, and the State Department will

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01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 1: be here after the president or State Department. Presidents come

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01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: and go, but the State Department is forever. That tends

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01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 1: to be the sentiment there. And you have to wonder

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01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 1: in an era of instantaneous communications and faster global travel

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01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: and of course all that comes with it than in

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01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: previous decades. Do we really need quite the same uh,

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01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: permanent diplomatic representation all over the world that we've had

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01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: in the past. It's it's a fair question, I think

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01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: if you're just looking at staffing levels. I know that

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01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: every person who's an analyst for the government is led

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01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: to believe that they're a critical part of the government's

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01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, information and and ability to think that they're

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01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: informing policy decisions. There are a lot of people working

1782
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: in stay in other places too, for the federal government

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01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 1: who are not what you would call in a reasonable sense,

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01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: critical to the mission. But anyway, that's so you got

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01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: this this policy fight that's going on inside of State.

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: And I know, I just saw there was a senior

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01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: another senior state person resigned. But my understanding that just

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01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: happened the last twenty four hours. My understanding is that's

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01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: because that individual wasn't going to get the job. That

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01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: that that he or she I forget I think is

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01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: that he um wanted and so moving on, you know,

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01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 1: and that's not really not really a surprise. I mean,

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01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,839
Speaker 1: there's nothing about this that's particularly newsworthy other than anything

1794
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: that shows people leaving the state Department is supposed to

1795
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: tie into this narrative, and the narrative is that Trump

1796
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: is such a a monster when it comes to international

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01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 1: affairs and foreign policy that whatever he whatever he does,

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01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: or everything that he does causes more consternation, more angst

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01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 1: inside a foggy bottom, and all these brilliant, multi lingual

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01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: career civil servants at the state departments just don't know

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01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: what they're going to do with themselves. First of all,

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01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 1: you've got to assume there are some people in the

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01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: state and state who are very quiet about it, but

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01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: who are probably Trump supporters right voted for Trump, and

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01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea what the percentage or

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01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: number would be, but I know they're there. But I

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01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: can also tell you that the overwhelming sense you'd have

1808
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: from spending time in meetings and walk around the hallways

1809
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 1: of the State Department is that they are just because

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01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: of the way international relations is taught in schools, and

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01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: that the kind of people that it often it often attracts,

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01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: especially from the academic world. You're gonna get a lot

1813
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 1: of left of center and even far left people, and

1814
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: they're going to disapprove of not just Trump but the

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01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: whole notion of America first. I mean at the State Department,

1816
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: there can be a creeping sense of over overwhelming multilateralism

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01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: or a a really a relativism among all nations because

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01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 1: you start to view people that specialize in one area

1819
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 1: start to think that area is much more important than

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01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: it is, and they are favorably disposed towards the international

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01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: institutions of say, the United Nations and and other other

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01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: giant global bureaucracies like that, just because of as I

1823
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 1: was saying, how international affairs are taught in schools and

1824
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: the kind of people that tend to go into those

1825
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 1: areas of study. So anyway, you'll be seeing more about this.

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01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Uh Tillerson, I wonder. I wonder how he's

1827
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: really doing in this role. I mean I thought he

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01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,600
Speaker 1: was a good pick. I like that there's a businessman

1829
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: who's running the State Department. I like that he's obviously

1830
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: run huge institutions in the past. But there's a part

1831
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: of me that feels like, at some point Rex Tillerson

1832
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: is gonna come out and be like, look, I ran

1833
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: x On, the biggest company in the world, but the

1834
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: problems we had there are nothing compared to the entry

1835
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: insigence and sloth and just bureaucratic inefficiencies of the State Department.

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01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: That that would be my guest. And I wonder if

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01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: he'll just come out and say that at some point um,

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 1: it would be certainly interesting for me to hear that

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01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: if if, if in fact, we could hear from the

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01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, alright, seem we've got got more. I'll

1841
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: be back with you in just a few state would do?

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01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 1: All right? Welcome back team. I know that there's so

1843
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: much going on right now, all the Jeff Sessions stuff

1844
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: with Trump, the transgender band this morning via Twitter? Is

1845
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: it really a policy? Plus healthcare? Congress, the GOP that

1846
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: can't get direct together? But you know, this week was

1847
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: supposed to be American Heroes Week, as determined by the

1848
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: White House, and we certainly haven't forgotten that here in

1849
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: the Freedom once. So to that end, I want to

1850
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: introduce you to an American hero. We've got Seawan Gobin

1851
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: on the line. He's a United States Marine Corps veteran

1852
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: who served twelve years as an infantry rifleman and armor officer.

1853
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: After three combat deployments, twice to a rock and once

1854
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, he decided to hike the Appellachian Trail as

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01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 1: a way to transition to civilian life. The healing effects

1856
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: of the six month journey inspired him to found a

1857
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:16,879
Speaker 1: nonprofit Warrior Expeditions, which sends vets on long distance wilderness

1858
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: trips across the country. To quote, walk off the war,

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01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: fantastic stuff he's doing here, Sean, Thank you so much

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01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: and thank you for your service. Thanks for joining us. Well,

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01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: thank you very much to my honor to be here. First,

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01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: just just tell me a bit about your time time

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01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 1: in the Core and how you got to this place

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01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: now where you're helping other veterans. Sure. So, my time

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01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps, my first tour, I was enlisted

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01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: UH Infantry rifleman, but that was before nine eleven. UM

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01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 1: picked up a commissioning program UM right after I received

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01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: my commissions when nine eleven happened. After finishing the basic school,

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01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: I was designated as an Armor officer. UM checked into

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01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: my first unit, second Tanks UM, and within ten days

1871
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 1: of checking in we were in Kuwait and my first

1872
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: field up on the tank was the the initial crossing

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01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: of Kuwait until Irack during the initial invasion. That was

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01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: my two thousand three deployment. My two thousand five deployment,

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01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: I took over Cobaltoon, which is a humby mounted infantry

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: blal tun within a tank Italian And in two thousand

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01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,879
Speaker 1: five I spent seven months um fighting the counter insurgency

1878
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: fight in Fallujah. And then fast forward to two thousand eleven,

1879
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: I got tasked to go to Afghanistan and train the

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01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 1: Afghan national security forces. So I was basically bouncing around

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01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: r C Southwest training the Afghan military and police forces

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01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: for about a year. And so then after all that

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01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 1: time in theater, in various theaters and and combat experience

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01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: and close contact with the enemy, you came back States,

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01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: you transitioned and tell us about that. Sure, so I

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01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: decided to get out in two thousand twelve, the spring

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01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: of two thousand twelve, and grad school wasn't gonna start

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01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: until that fall, so I basically had a four and

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01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: a half month window. And it had always been a

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01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 1: dream of mine to hike the Appalachian Trail, and so

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01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: that was my opportunity. So I drove off the back

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01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: gate of Campbells VI, North Carolina on March fourteenth, two

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01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, drove straight to Springer Mountain in Georgia

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01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 1: and then spent the next four and a half months

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01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: hike in the Appalachian Trail and what started off as

1896
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: just a personal goal ended up being, honestly, you know,

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01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: a life saving experience for me. We're speaking to Sean Gobin,

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01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: the United States Marine Corps veteran and founder of the

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: nonprofit uh A founder of a nonprofit What Warrior Expeditions. Sean, UH,

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Speaker 1: By the way, how does that how does that go

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01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 1: with the Appalachian Trail? I mean, where do you get food?

1902
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Speaker 1: And I mean what's the what are the logistics of this? Like? So? Uh, Well,

1903
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: for my personal experience, which I had none at the time, UM,

1904
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: I grabbed a bunch of gear I had hanging out

1905
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: of my garage and um, you know, and did the

1906
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: typical military veteran thing and carried way too much gear

1907
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: and tried to like, way too fast, too far. In

1908
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the beginning, uh incurred a bunch of overuse injuries and

1909
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: then was excruciating pain for the first thirty days of

1910
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: my hike. Um. But then as far as we supply,

1911
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty easy. The town the trail crosses a number

1912
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: of towns every few days or so, and so you

1913
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: basically just hop off the trail, go to the nearest

1914
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: gas station, fill up your pack with your favorite candy

1915
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 1: bars and granola bars and dehydrated meals, and then just

1916
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: hop back on the trail. What are some of the

1917
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: most amazing things that either you saw or just some

1918
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 1: of the experiences you had during this twenty mile hike

1919
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: on the Appalachian Trail. Whereas as you put it, you

1920
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: walked off the war in a sense. Yeah, and it

1921
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: was really happenstance, which was the most impactful part of

1922
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: the experience. Um. Again, I started as a personal challenge,

1923
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 1: but then as I was making my way up the trail,

1924
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: I started to notice I was having a lot of

1925
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: these therapeutic effects from the hike itself. The first was

1926
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: just having the time in space in my own head

1927
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: to process and decompress from everything I had experienced. Uh,

1928
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: because as we all know, you know, current day veterans,

1929
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you can be on the battlefield one day

1930
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: and then you're home the next um, and then you

1931
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: multiply that by a bunch of deployments, and then you know,

1932
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: you transition out of the service and a blink of

1933
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: an eye and you're scrambling trying to start your new life,

1934
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we never really had the chance to

1935
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: really just stop and process and decompress everything we had

1936
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: gone through. And so that was the first thing that

1937
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: was really impactful. The second was I did the hike

1938
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: with a buddy of mine who I was deployed with,

1939
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and so having another combat vet with me just to

1940
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: talk to h during the journey was really good. UM,

1941
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: as you're going through this process and this experience, UM,

1942
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: just to be able to talk to somebody who gets

1943
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 1: it was was really important. And then the third thing

1944
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: that was really incredible about the experience was meeting all

1945
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: these wonderful people along the way. Um. After three combat

1946
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: tours and dealing with the absolute worst of humanity, a

1947
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: lot of veterans come home and you start to get

1948
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 1: really cynical towards people in society at large, which causes

1949
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans to isolate. But during my journey,

1950
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: I met all these wonderful people along the trail who

1951
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: didn't know me from Adam, but who are opening up

1952
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: their homes to me, supporting my journey, and it really

1953
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: re established that basic faith in humanity that I lost

1954
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: along the way. Sean for veterans who are listening were

1955
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: those who are family members of veterans, and there's certainly

1956
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: a lot of them right now who are listening. UH,

1957
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: if they would like to see what you're up to

1958
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 1: and learn more about Warrior Expeditions, where do they go

1959
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: and what can they expect? Sure, so they can get

1960
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: all the information about the organization from Warrior Exhibitions. Dot

1961
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,959
Speaker 1: org um is also an application process on the website

1962
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 1: UM where people can submit applications and then they can

1963
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: follow the journeys of our veterans that have participated in

1964
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,480
Speaker 1: our program on to include the forties that are participating

1965
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: this year across our ten different trails that cross thirty

1966
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: five states. UM. So it's a great place to learn

1967
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 1: about what we do and how we do it, and

1968
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: then really interesting to watch the veterans as they make

1969
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 1: their way up the trails each year on our social

1970
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 1: media sites and how where are I mean, you've got

1971
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of these trails. Have you done more

1972
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: than one of them? Have you done a few of

1973
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 1: these shown? The plan was to do all of them,

1974
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: but after I did the first trail, which is the

1975
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Appalachian Trail, and started my organization. UM, this has now

1976
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,839
Speaker 1: become a fifteen hour day, seven day a week commitment.

1977
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: And so until I can find my replacement my ability

1978
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: to do some more trails, you're just gonna have to wait,

1979
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: what's the next if you have to tell me right now,

1980
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 1: what's the next trail you're gonna take if you had

1981
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: the time. I really like our biking program we just

1982
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: started last year, our Warrior Bike program, which goes from Virginia,

1983
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: Oregon's and it's a really cool bike trip on really

1984
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 1: cool bikes that we use. And so if I had

1985
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: the option, I think I would do that one next.

1986
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Sean Gobin, United States Marine Corps veteran and founder of

1987
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Warrior Expeditions, go check it out. Everybody listening, and Sean,

1988
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining everyone. This is one

1989
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: of our American Heroes of the week. Sean, we really

1990
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, thank you for your service, and thank

1991
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you for joining us today on the show. Thanks Buck,

1992
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And team with that. We are

1993
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: going to be closing out here. Please do download the

1994
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: show on iTunes even if you're listening live wherever you

1995
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 1: are and whatever radio market your and across the country.

1996
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of a way of voting in favor of

1997
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: the show. Also, Buck Sexton dot com slash store go

1998
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: check that out. You can buy gear. Please do it

1999
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: supports us here in the Freedom Hut. Excited to join

2000
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: you tomorrow night with much more of the kind of

2001
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 1: stuff we talked about today, and more and until then,

2002
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: my friends, As always, shields high