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Speaker 3: of NFL news that happened today because the new year
Speaker 3: starts tomorrow, and we're gonna get to that in a bit.
Speaker 3: But we've got to talk about the Denver Nuggets got
Speaker 3: their got their get back tonight against the OKC Thunder
Speaker 3: one seven. The Nuggets scored one hundred and forty points.
Speaker 3: They shot sixty one percent from the floor. They shot
Speaker 3: fifty six percent from the three all seasons worse allowed
Speaker 3: by the number one ranked defense in KFS at koc
Speaker 3: Ok se Yo Kich went off thirty five points, eighteen rebounds,
Speaker 3: eight assists. Jlen Williams left the game with a strip
Speaker 3: strained hip, and uh it showed. Look, Shaye is gonna
Speaker 3: win the MVP, and he should. But make no mistake,
Speaker 3: the best player in the world is Nicola Jokic. Nicola
Speaker 3: Jokic is the best player in the world. And it's
Speaker 3: not close. It's great as Shaye is. Ain't nobody seeing
Speaker 3: yok O Joe? Can I ask you a question you
Speaker 3: may certainly, Matgine, This is kind of really don't make
Speaker 3: no sense to me.
Speaker 1: Now, Now, if if Sga is the MVP, what you
Speaker 1: consider Jokics the best player in the world right now?
Speaker 1: How does that go? How does that even go hand
Speaker 1: in hand? In general?
Speaker 3: Because the best player doesn't always win the MVP. Lebron
Speaker 3: James is the best player for a decade he only
Speaker 3: has four. Maybe longer and he only has four MVP.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's same thing. Oh, that doesn't necessarily always equate.
Speaker 3: You look at how well a guy's play. The best
Speaker 3: player on the OKC is Shae. Look at their record
Speaker 3: fifty three and twelve, the number one seed in the
Speaker 3: Western Conference, and so basically it's him, Yoke Jannis. We'll
Speaker 3: see what happens with Lebron, maybe JT. But when you
Speaker 3: look at the numbers that Jokic is putting up twenty
Speaker 3: nine points a game, twelve rebounds a game, ten assist
Speaker 3: the game, he's gonna average, He's on pace to average
Speaker 3: a triple double.
Speaker 2: He's the best player.
Speaker 3: I get all that what y'all saying, Chad, I hear,
Speaker 3: and Shaye has been phenomenal leading the league is scoring.
Speaker 2: But Shae is not a better player. Giannis is not
Speaker 2: a better player.
Speaker 3: J T is not a better player, Luca, Lebron, whomever
Speaker 3: you want to throw him.
Speaker 2: Occasion on the the the equation.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, the best player in the NBA, the best basketball.
Speaker 2: Player in the world is from Serbia and he's the
Speaker 2: Kola Jokic.
Speaker 3: Are you are you sure about that? About one thousand.
Speaker 3: Categorically for certain. I've never been in I've never been
Speaker 3: sure by any more thing in my life other than
Speaker 3: my first born. She looks just like me. I've never
Speaker 3: been sure anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, based on based on your giving me a
Speaker 1: better understanding and context, context, and how most of the
Speaker 1: time the best player doesn't actually with the MVP. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to agree with you in a sense. But
Speaker 1: what she is doing this year is phenomenal, phenomenal the
Speaker 1: reasons why they're first and had the record that they do,
Speaker 1: and statistically on both sides of the court, offensively and defensively,
Speaker 1: they're at the top top three at almost every statistical category.
Speaker 1: I would kind of put him up there with Joker
Speaker 1: as the best player in the NBA, but you think
Speaker 1: Joker is.
Speaker 3: Instead Yoki's hands down the best players.
Speaker 2: It's not close.
Speaker 3: That's not to take that's not to take away from
Speaker 3: Shade and what he's doing. He's gonna be a unanimous
Speaker 3: first team All NBA selection, and rightfully so. I believe
Speaker 3: he's gonna win the MVP, and rightfully so. But I
Speaker 3: believe two things can be true. I believe Shade deserves
Speaker 3: the MVP. He's earned that award. Niccola yoki is the
Speaker 3: best player in basketball. Now you dribble a braasketball and
Speaker 3: you breathed oxygen. Niccola Yokic is best. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And he doesn't. That's not a knock on Shae. I
Speaker 3: mean there are guys that wont MVP. Look Carl along
Speaker 3: with MVP. It wasn't better player.
Speaker 1: Than Michael Jordan. What are we doing here? He wasn't.
Speaker 3: But his Look at his team's record. Look at the
Speaker 3: numbers that he put up. Yeah, Brod check this out.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you if Shade them didn't have this record,
Speaker 2: Let's just say they was tied with Yo Nim Yoga
Speaker 2: would win for MVP even a five year span because
Speaker 2: the numbers. Look at his numbers, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: Twenty nine, twelve, and ten, and he's shooting fifty seven
Speaker 3: fifty eight percent from the floor. He was fifteen or
Speaker 3: twenty let us think in fifteen or twenty one of
Speaker 3: two from the three point line, cause he's shooting down
Speaker 3: there fifty percent. For what are you shooting on for
Speaker 3: the three this year? He just doesn't tell. I don't
Speaker 3: know if he takes enough to qualify.
Speaker 5: Ah, he's shooting forty three percent from the from the floor.
Speaker 5: He shooting from the three, he's shooting fifty seven, fifty seven,
Speaker 5: fifty eight percent, fifty seven almost fifty eight percent from
Speaker 5: the floor.
Speaker 1: He shooting forty three percent from the three point line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: They didn't know.
Speaker 3: If take this away, Shade's going to win the MVP, right,
Speaker 3: I guarantee you if you poll all the GMS and
Speaker 3: ask him, I bet yo wins is thirty teams, You
Speaker 3: got thirty gms, He's gonna probably win twenty eight to two,
Speaker 3: twenty seven three as the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 3: It's not close. Don't knock on nobody, right, it's not.
Speaker 3: But tonight he showed you what he's capable of. And
Speaker 3: then he had his He had this guy with him,
Speaker 3: a Murray eleven of twenty two three or seven thirty
Speaker 3: four they had.
Speaker 2: They only played.
Speaker 3: They only played eight guys six something scored in double figures.
Speaker 3: The seventh guy had eight points and he only played
Speaker 3: eighteen minutes. Everybody scored the touch the court ex except
Speaker 3: one guy. What was what was shake stat?
Speaker 2: Lat Night?
Speaker 3: Shane had twenty five He was eight or fourteen, three
Speaker 3: or seven, six or six. Uh if plus minus was
Speaker 3: minus eighteen, Chet Hunger was minus twenty. Lou Dort, who
Speaker 3: led him and scored, was minus eight. Isaiah Hartin's stein
Speaker 3: was the only one that had a plus. No Jalen
Speaker 3: Williams had a plus, but he left with about fourteen
Speaker 3: at fourteen minutes in the ball game five or ten,
Speaker 3: one of three. Look, you're gonna have one of these games,
Speaker 3: oh Joe, You're not gonna be your Look, I don't
Speaker 3: care the best defense. Look at eighty five Bears.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that Monday night massacut
Speaker 2: that Miami put on their ass enough, I'm old enough
Speaker 2: to remember that they beat the brakes off the Bears
Speaker 2: and the and the Orange Bowl back a y four.
Speaker 3: Go look it up on that money night and look
Speaker 3: with Dad Marino and them dead to him. So you're
Speaker 3: gonna have a bad game. You look at what happened
Speaker 3: to us we played that defense that year. Jimmy Smith
Speaker 3: dropped down there, three hundred yards receiving on us in
Speaker 3: three times down fifteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: That's when Dwayne Dwayne starts something out there.
Speaker 3: Christ mc kellen, you're cutting. He cutting everybody ass it
Speaker 3: didn't matter. You get it, I'll cut your no, now
Speaker 3: you go back over there. I don't have him up.
Speaker 2: I don't want no more of these problems. I remember
Speaker 2: what it happened.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic averaging twenty nine points, thirteen rebounds, eleven assists,
Speaker 3: so he's third in scoring, third in rebounding, second of assists,
Speaker 3: eleventh in field goal percentage. Shae is first in scoring
Speaker 3: get thirty three points seventy six and rebounds five point one,
Speaker 3: sixteenth in assists six point two twenty fifth in field
Speaker 3: goal percentage. I mean he about to become the second guard.
Speaker 3: I think Michael Jordan did it. To score thirty on
Speaker 3: at least fifty percent shooting as a guard, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's crazy efficiency. I'm talking about crazy. I mean, can
Speaker 3: think about it. Only two guys I've ever done it
Speaker 3: in the history that played the guard position. Now, there
Speaker 3: have been bigs. Obviously, if you're big, that's different. You're
Speaker 3: not taking the outside shots like the guard is. But
Speaker 3: for Jordan to average thirty and shoot fifty percent from
Speaker 3: the floor and Shae held daminite shooting fifty three percent
Speaker 3: from the floor, he's had a phenomenal season and to
Speaker 3: watch the process and watch how he've gotten better, better
Speaker 3: and better better every single year. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that if you work hard, you're gonna be able to
Speaker 3: have a meteoric rise like him, but it's just hard
Speaker 3: for me to see not a player not getting incrementally
Speaker 3: better if he works.
Speaker 2: Now, are you gonna take that leap like he's taken?
Speaker 2: Probably not, but you'll get better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was always was already in him though. Uh.
Speaker 1: You even got to understand that the player players are
Speaker 1: different regards to what sport you play. When you work hard,
Speaker 1: if you already got the talent and you add that
Speaker 1: we're working hard, that's when the leafs and bounds happened
Speaker 1: in your game. Like that.
Speaker 2: You look at Lebron, look at Jordan, look at Kobe.
Speaker 3: GUIDs are a mentally talented but are equally as hard working.
Speaker 2: So now you combine the talent with hard work.
Speaker 1: Hey, elevator elevated the heights unknown.
Speaker 3: Yes, and sometimes if you work hard, you don't have
Speaker 3: to be the most talented. Lard Birry wasn't running, No,
Speaker 3: wasn't leaping out of the gym. He wasn't the fleet
Speaker 3: is the foot but he'd tell your ass up. Same
Speaker 3: thing with magic.
Speaker 1: Magic.
Speaker 3: We had never seen anything like magic. We never seen
Speaker 3: a guy a six nine guy. You a power forward
Speaker 3: or you a center. That's what the sixth nine got.
Speaker 3: He's the same height as as mister Russell six nine.
Speaker 3: He's playing the point guard. So now you got a
Speaker 3: little six foot guards trying to guard him. Hell, he
Speaker 3: looked right on the top of them, put a hand
Speaker 3: up in his face. What put what a head so
Speaker 3: he could see over the.
Speaker 2: Top of the defense.
Speaker 3: This was a great game, obviously, OKC that played just
Speaker 3: played have an unbelievable performance the other night.
Speaker 1: This was a back to back, right, Yeah, they beat
Speaker 1: they played last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they beat the Nuggets in Denver and then yeah
Speaker 3: with that game in denro.
Speaker 2: Was it or was it in okay See? Was both
Speaker 2: an OKC.
Speaker 3: Okay, But Yoki gets this revenge. The Nuggets get back
Speaker 3: on the winning track. One. They scored thirty for They
Speaker 3: had sixty seven points at the half. Wow, okay see
Speaker 3: had seventy three at the half. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 3: get and then the second half they gave up seventy
Speaker 3: three second half points to the Nuggets while they scored
Speaker 3: fifty four second half points. That was the difference in
Speaker 3: the ball game and that's why they ran away with it.
Speaker 3: The number two seeded Lakers without Lebron James lose to
Speaker 3: the twenty two nets l They dropped to four in
Speaker 3: twenty three are now the third seed in the West.
Speaker 3: This is especially costly lost considering their upcoming schedule is
Speaker 3: three back to backs in eight days. They're a half
Speaker 3: game behind the Denver Nuggets for two and a half
Speaker 3: game head a Memphis for four.
Speaker 2: LA is in Milwaukee on Thursday.
Speaker 3: JJ said there's a low level communication game for the Lakers.
Speaker 3: He said that being shorthanded isn't an excuse. We just
Speaker 3: don't take. We just don't We just wanted to take shortcuts,
Speaker 3: just shortcuts. You want to be a good team in
Speaker 3: the NBA, you want to win, you have to do
Speaker 3: the hard stuff.
Speaker 2: I agree JJ.
Speaker 1: I mean when JJ says you have to do the
Speaker 1: hard stuff, what exactly is the hard stuff he's speaking of?
Speaker 3: Because when Lebron do everything, you gotta rebound, you got
Speaker 3: to box out, you got to get loose ball, you
Speaker 3: gotta make the extra pass.
Speaker 2: You can't take a shortcut.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, this seems to be easy, turning the ball,
Speaker 3: careless turnovers.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I understand, I understand that. But they've been
Speaker 1: playing well all season long, and well obviously when Luca
Speaker 1: got there, all of a sudden, Lebron is out. Not
Speaker 1: everything is magnified, and they taking shortcuts. Well, they weren't
Speaker 1: just taking shortcuts two nice ago or three nights ago
Speaker 1: or four nights ago before when it was winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Luca did not shoot the ball well again,
Speaker 3: eight of twenty six, three of ten, five turnovers, Austin
Speaker 3: Reeves didn't shoot the ball well three or fourteen. Alex Linn,
Speaker 3: he got great cardio in thirteen minutes, zero points. He
Speaker 3: would just say you do hey, he was just getting
Speaker 3: his cardio in. So you know, guys normally after the
Speaker 3: game that didn't play a lot, they didn't normally get
Speaker 3: on the bike.
Speaker 2: They're getting the leg.
Speaker 3: Get some cardio in. Alex Linn got he is in.
Speaker 3: He just happened to play thirteen minutes and they ain't
Speaker 3: give you nothing in the stat sheet.
Speaker 1: So now you see what I mean. Now see what
Speaker 1: you just said right there? You rated all four players, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't play well, didn't shoot well. But JJ said
Speaker 1: it's about cutting corner is a hard work. How about
Speaker 1: you just I mean, it's clear as they would really happen,
Speaker 1: it's clearer today. But I'm assuming as a coach you
Speaker 1: really can't say that you can't be.
Speaker 3: On sometimes, oh Jo, sometimes even when you're not playing well,
Speaker 3: you could overcome not playing well by playing hard.
Speaker 2: That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's that's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, But I don't think
Speaker 1: without them having Lebron and Luca playing is out of okay,
Speaker 1: not not playing up the par Even if you even
Speaker 1: if you did play hard and did and didn't take
Speaker 1: any shortcutse you wasn't winning that game to night because
Speaker 1: it's not enough. It's not enough people to happen.
Speaker 2: They had a twelve point lead, don't yo, And what
Speaker 2: happened to the twelve point lead?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: What happened was you kept filing, You kept putting the
Speaker 3: ass on the free throw line.
Speaker 2: They shot thirty free throws, you shot nineteen. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: put it. You on the road, and you let a
Speaker 2: team I shoot you by eleven, you're probably gonna lose.
Speaker 2: I mean they shot them. I mean the Lakers will.
Speaker 3: I mean they shot better from the floor, they shot
Speaker 3: better from the three, they shot better from the free
Speaker 3: throw line. It was close in rebounds. I mean no,
Speaker 3: they gave up sixteen offensive rebounds.
Speaker 2: For you this week.
Speaker 3: That's the hard stuff box out. You think the ball
Speaker 3: just go bounce to you. No, this was a game
Speaker 3: that they really needed to win.
Speaker 1: O yo.
Speaker 3: Because think about it, they got Milwaukee, they still got
Speaker 3: the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: They got the Nuggets twice. Yeah, and you're gonna space
Speaker 2: these teams without Lebron.
Speaker 1: Right, so they dropped you say they dropped third.
Speaker 3: They went from their third that half, gave back a
Speaker 3: second their have gave in front of Memphis for four. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna be without Lebron you basically, So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna here on the side of caution. They say he's
Speaker 3: gonna be out a week, I'm gonna keep hi my
Speaker 3: two weeks because I don't want him to reinjury. We're
Speaker 3: about five weeks away from the postseason. The last thing
Speaker 3: I want is Lebron living into the postseason because I
Speaker 3: know we got no chance. But you just got to
Speaker 3: do all the thing you gotta do the small stuff, right,
Speaker 3: especially when you down one of your best players, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I said this at the
Speaker 3: time of the signing, I don't know why you signed
Speaker 3: to Alex Linn. Y'all should have y'all should to say, Sacramento,
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep you chipping a couple of dollars because
Speaker 3: we don't want him to come here. That's when has
Speaker 3: anybody said, you know what, Alex Linn might be the
Speaker 3: missing piece.
Speaker 2: He might be a good role player, he might be
Speaker 2: a good backup.
Speaker 1: I mean here in the NBA for a reason. Now
Speaker 1: Here in the NBA. Hey, look like you said all
Speaker 1: the time, he tall sometimes listen sometimes that's all to take. Now, Yes,
Speaker 1: if we can get it, if we if we can
Speaker 1: get him to play, play what the saxophone likely look?
Speaker 1: Come on now, you just out there waiting a roster spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like j.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to young bull.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm bro I'm just saying, gave Vincent. Gave it
Speaker 3: to you tonight. He's starting to shoot the ball really well.
Speaker 3: In the twelve from the floor, six to nine from
Speaker 3: the three, two or two from the free throw line.
Speaker 3: He led the Lakers and scoring with twenty four Luca
Speaker 3: played forty one minutes. He's scoring twenty two, but he
Speaker 3: took twenty six shots. Nah, you could never have fewer
Speaker 3: points been shot attempts. That's not good.
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves only had three more points that he had
Speaker 2: shot attempts. That's not good. Y'n't connect had one more
Speaker 2: point point than shot attempts. That's not good.
Speaker 1: M hm hm.
Speaker 2: And I said this again in all sincerity.
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to see a scenario that Alex
Speaker 3: lidd is better than Dwight Howard, even at the age
Speaker 3: of thirty eight or thirty nine.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it.
Speaker 1: Well, United, they not bringing anyone older the game. The game,
Speaker 1: the game itself is a young man's game. So even
Speaker 1: though Dwight House is big that I'm sure they could use,
Speaker 1: they just rather not do it. And I think I
Speaker 1: think there might have been some some rift if I'm
Speaker 1: not if I'm not mistaken seeing it earlier. You know,
Speaker 1: with with with Dwight Howard had an exchange of words
Speaker 1: with with with somebody, but when it was on the Lakers,
Speaker 1: which is why he's not there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no exchange, no words. I got to sange word.
Speaker 3: You want to go you want to go. You want
Speaker 3: to go, and to go farther than the first round
Speaker 3: of the playoffs. That's the word.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the word, but words, Hey, further than the
Speaker 2: first round.
Speaker 1: If the Lakers really knew what they needed, you know,
Speaker 1: you know where they really could have bought in.
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah to me?
Speaker 2: What man?
Speaker 3: You holding the ball like you a nineteen fifties basketball player,
Speaker 3: man putting that ball out for.
Speaker 1: Hey, don't don't. We don't worry about how I'm holding
Speaker 1: this ball. Is about where the ball gonna go once
Speaker 1: I get to the hoop.
Speaker 2: Nowhere. You ain't go out in the basket.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, Well, when I was in high school, I
Speaker 1: I averaged a triple double. Man, that's not that's what
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do.
Speaker 3: A triple single, A triple double, hey, a triple double,
Speaker 3: triple double?
Speaker 1: They say you had quadruple double? Hey, man, listen six
Speaker 1: A class six eight MINDI b C. I avered forty
Speaker 1: two points a night. To talk about, man, Well, I
Speaker 1: used to be out there man like now, listen, I
Speaker 1: was like a mixture Jamal on rebounds to assist six files. Hey,
Speaker 1: I was a mix of Jamal Murray and Kyprie Irvan.
Speaker 1: That's what my package looked like. Yeah, I gotta yeah,
Speaker 1: I got, I got a package. Now ask about me, mercy,
Speaker 1: ask about me.
Speaker 2: A mix of X lax and feeding men. You were some.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you what I would build different. Man,
Speaker 1: you thought I was born in New York. The kind
Speaker 1: of handles I had. Yeah, that's that's what you said.
Speaker 1: Tell me, boy boy, you from you shoot you from mine?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, but you play that one of them
Speaker 1: boys off a rock a park. I said, nah, like
Speaker 1: I just that. Oh Joe, you did not play basketball
Speaker 1: in high school? Who I played soccer? I'm saying my basketball,
Speaker 1: I know, but listen to me, my folk, my focal
Speaker 1: point was soccer. But I'm just saying that's how good
Speaker 1: I was an athletic. I was where I could try
Speaker 1: it translate, you know, nice to skip skip class and
Speaker 1: go to people pee class and play basketball.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you can't play basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm listen, man, It's one thing about me. I lied
Speaker 1: for you before. I lie to y'all. Get me.
Speaker 3: You're just lying now, nah, I mean you aren't really
Speaker 3: talking to nobody in particular.
Speaker 1: You just lie. I take pride in my craft.
Speaker 2: What back? And jeez, that's the only craft. That's the
Speaker 2: only craft I know anything about that.
Speaker 3: You would know about all that other stuff you talk
Speaker 3: about old or nothing about that?
Speaker 2: Hey, what you're talking about? Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: After tumultuous Aaron Rodgers era in New York, has made
Speaker 3: it clear and decisive and somber decision with a high
Speaker 3: upside player on a low cost deal, the Jets signed
Speaker 3: Justin Fields to a two year deal forty million dollars
Speaker 3: with thirty million guaranteed. He was celebrating his new deal
Speaker 3: in Dubai with Michael Parsons, Kyle Pists, and Bjon Robinson.
Speaker 3: Fields is expected to be the Jets opening day starter
Speaker 3: ahead of Tyrod Taylor. Fields would be reunited with Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 3: the Turor teammates for two seasons at Ohio State nineteen
Speaker 3: through the twentieth. Fields was drafted number eleven overall in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, nine spots after the Jets selected Zach Wilson,
Speaker 3: who was replaced by Rogers and traded last offseason. He
Speaker 3: was in Denver last year. Now he's in Miami on
Speaker 3: a one year deal fully guaranteed to back up to it. Oh, Joey, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you think about this deal? Just now we
Speaker 3: know definitively Justin Fields is not going back to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: He's in New York.
Speaker 1: So you like this deal? Yeah? Absolutely, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like if Justin Fields deserve a chance to start,
Speaker 1: He deserve a chance to start somewhere. If it wasn't
Speaker 1: Tona be in Pittsburgh. Obviously, Mike Tomlin had promised Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's a job. He came in, took the team to
Speaker 1: four and two, then Russell Wilson took over. We know
Speaker 1: what happened. The bottom fell out towards the end of
Speaker 1: the season. Justin Fields doesn't come back. He was on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. He's now going to the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. Now, the New k j had their own problems.
Speaker 1: One of the problems that they did have, but that
Speaker 1: they think they solved is a quarterback position. In bringing
Speaker 1: Justin Fields in, I'm hoping, I'm hoping things go in
Speaker 1: his favor and they continue to put pieces around him
Speaker 1: so he can succeed at what he does. Having Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 1: for one, a step in the right direction, thinks in
Speaker 1: the officer line for two is another step in the
Speaker 1: right direction. You have Brits hol and take some of
Speaker 1: the pressure off of you when it comes to running
Speaker 1: the ball. You can also catch the ball out the backfield.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, the defense, maybe they can get back,
Speaker 1: hopefully get back to what they once were, not last year,
Speaker 1: but the year before when they were top three at
Speaker 1: almost every statistical category when they played. Hope they can
Speaker 1: get back to that. And I'm happy for justin fields
Speaker 1: and that's not now. The owners is on you. The
Speaker 1: onners is on you. You wanted, you wanted a chance
Speaker 1: to be a starter. You wanted a chance to be
Speaker 1: able to prove yourself. Now you got it. And not
Speaker 1: only do you got it, now you got it in
Speaker 1: the best place to play, the best market, the media,
Speaker 1: the world is watching. You're gonna be on TV. Everything
Speaker 1: you do is going to be magnified, you know, So
Speaker 1: the pressure, the pressure gonna be on a little bit
Speaker 1: now and it's a big apple later.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Also, you know who the backup was under Rodgers who
Speaker 3: played better at spots when he got into Rodgers, Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know tyro Ty Robin will have
Speaker 1: been around for a long time now that's what that's
Speaker 1: what understands. Hey, that's one joke on You can put
Speaker 1: him on all thirty two teams. He gonna get what
Speaker 1: you need every time he stepped in there, every time
Speaker 1: he stepped in there. But for some reason they don't
Speaker 1: view him as a starter when he actually is. That's
Speaker 1: what it should be.
Speaker 2: He played really well. Remember he started in Buffalo. He
Speaker 2: took him to the playoffs. Oh yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: he goes to San Diego. He gives he had a
Speaker 2: college and injury suffering in the preseason. They injected and
Speaker 2: they end up piercing the lung and he collapsed his lung.
Speaker 3: So now justin Herbert starts. Now Herbert plays well, he
Speaker 3: never gets the job back. So now he's been a backup.
Speaker 3: He was a backup at New York, played better than
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, got went to Jets and played good. So
Speaker 3: he's played well when he's been given an opportunity to.
Speaker 2: Oh and he was.
Speaker 3: Also a backup in U in Baltimore. Yeah didn't he
Speaker 3: back up like?
Speaker 1: Oh and he did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait what year was this?
Speaker 2: But he was on that super Bowl team?
Speaker 1: Oh right, Rod got a ring too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's where and he played, you know, in back spot
Speaker 3: duty playing well, he goes to Buffalo. So he went
Speaker 3: from Baltimore to Buffalo, to the Chargers, to the Giants
Speaker 3: to the Jets.
Speaker 1: Now where was he at when they had the issue
Speaker 1: with the lung with the puncture lung the Chargers? Now
Speaker 1: did he purposely not fout any type of action?
Speaker 2: Soonce think he did file agreements. I think he did
Speaker 2: file agreement because that's tricky because you want to get
Speaker 2: deepen up in there and put the medicine in there,
Speaker 2: and the lungs are right there. The lungs are right there.
Speaker 2: You have to be cautious.
Speaker 3: Now you're talking to somebody that shot that that shot
Speaker 3: his ribs up because he had like rib cartilage. So
Speaker 3: it's a very delicate process. And it happens. It happened.
Speaker 3: It's happened.
Speaker 1: But you know what I would thinking about too when
Speaker 1: I just thought about it. You have to be careful
Speaker 1: a little bit, I think if you have an issue
Speaker 1: like that, especially where the doctors are responsible doing something
Speaker 1: wrong to you. But I always thought, as a player,
Speaker 1: if you file suit and you win, you know the
Speaker 1: NFL are gonna play with you no more.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get that.
Speaker 3: Oh so he said, probably a cost of a starting
Speaker 3: job because they pay your salary.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I mean. You see what I mean.
Speaker 6: But uhuh yeah he sooner, he so yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it happens. So I'm congratulating. I'm happy for
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. I ain't gon back to the Pittsburg y'all
Speaker 2: ain't gonna turn me loose. Y'all, y'all will come in here,
Speaker 2: y'all want to do this little stuff like that. Play
Speaker 2: to the defense. Don't take any risk. The last time
Speaker 2: they took risk is when they had Big Ben.
Speaker 1: They allowed Big Bend to play free. Well, hold on, now,
Speaker 1: you got to understand when big big big Ben had
Speaker 1: at his disposal to be able to play free. They
Speaker 1: they ain't got nothing like that around.
Speaker 3: But early in his career, even when he had weapons,
Speaker 3: they it was a defense. They run the bus, they
Speaker 3: ran Willie Parker, and then even when they got Levey Yon,
Speaker 3: they still was an aried out type of a football
Speaker 3: team because they had all of those receivers. They had
Speaker 3: Mike Wallason, and they had the Sanders, and they had
Speaker 3: the Adds. So they had a nice collection of talent
Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position. Nah, I'm not saying, and
Speaker 3: none of the guys, so I don't want people to
Speaker 3: misconstrue this. None of the guys that's played quarterback are
Speaker 3: comparable to being, so we know what being represents, right.
Speaker 3: But all I'm saying, I mean, I think Ben has
Speaker 3: the most five hundred passing games in NFL history. With
Speaker 3: that being said, at the end of the day, O Jo,
Speaker 3: you gotta let me throw the football, bro. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is two to twenty twenty five. This ain't nineteen forty
Speaker 3: football where we run the ring wing tee.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You wanta backs want to throw, Receivers want to catch,
Speaker 2: running backs want to run.
Speaker 3: Edge rushers want to rush the quarterback. So you gotta
Speaker 3: let them do what they were meant to do, right,
Speaker 3: And so look, I'm sure you're gonna take you try
Speaker 3: to take advantage of fields legs.
Speaker 2: They're too dynamic for you not to. But you gotta
Speaker 2: let him throw the ball. Oh, Joe, I ain't talking
Speaker 2: about No damn fifteen times a game, What Dad, you
Speaker 2: expect the man to do?
Speaker 3: Go fifty, go twelve or fifteen for two hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty yards three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Come on that. Yes, it's all about understanding your player strengths,
Speaker 1: ununderstanding understanding your player strengths, understanding your players weaknesses, and
Speaker 1: plan to a strengths, play to a strengths, and try
Speaker 1: to come up this weakness by doing other things using
Speaker 1: other people. Right is easy. There's a reason. It's letting
Speaker 1: people on the goddamn field.
Speaker 3: Yes, everybody have the responsibility you like to move to
Speaker 3: the Jets?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah, but one only because Okay, I got a
Speaker 1: Greese Hall behind it, right, and you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me I got it? I got a gangster and and
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson out there too. Now I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what the rest of the receiver corps look like,
Speaker 1: but I know I could count on five.
Speaker 3: They might go, they might get a receiver, they might
Speaker 3: tell an offense a lineman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know I can count on five.
Speaker 1: I'm scra I'm screened.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, how much pressure do you
Speaker 3: feel is on Justin Fields to show that you know
Speaker 3: what out on capable starter in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Yes, not only is the pressure on him, Not only
Speaker 1: is the pressure on him, Look what the hell he
Speaker 1: win the play at that make the presures times ten. True,
Speaker 1: but what you can't do, you can't be gunshot. But
Speaker 1: but it all started here, it all started. You better listen.
Speaker 1: You wanted it, now you got it now only did
Speaker 1: you get it? Now you got it on the biggest stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, all all jet justin.
Speaker 1: I ne gonna see I know you got there in
Speaker 1: Dubai and enjoy yourself. You know I always been a supporter. Man,
Speaker 1: we need to go to Dubai. Who who are you?
Speaker 1: What what I thought? I'm going? Listen, We're going somewhere.
Speaker 1: Started with it dead. It ain't Dubaye, It's called d R. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah that's what Hey. Yeah, can y'all build
Speaker 1: up played Dubai O Joe Dubai. Hey, I see you
Speaker 1: when we leave it. I see you at the airport,
Speaker 1: O Joe in six days. Man, you can't turn me
Speaker 1: losing to d R O Joe. Oh no, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I got somebody gonna take care of us. Not I
Speaker 1: got because I was gonna be out like a scout
Speaker 1: of the new route. Listen that we got the villa.
Speaker 1: We got, We got the villa. The guy got in
Speaker 1: the villa for ten bedroom. Now you ain't got to
Speaker 1: stick with me. Now you can be in the villa
Speaker 1: next door.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want my own villa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get your own ten bad, you get your
Speaker 1: own chef, get your maid, your villa killer. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, most definitely softer, your own maid. Yeah. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you got your own maid. And they got somebody to
Speaker 1: cool too. Yes, it's you get your own personal Oh
Speaker 1: I got everything. Hey listen, they laid it out. Then
Speaker 1: you get your own got your own boat to now.
Speaker 1: Now I got a friend. I got a friend of
Speaker 1: mine out there in the d R and poop the
Speaker 1: can and naming Jeff give me now, Jeff take care
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: Trouble trouble buble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir, Jeff got a menu.
Speaker 1: Yeah me. You know when you go to McDonald's, you
Speaker 1: go to Burton King, Yeah, one through ten and what
Speaker 1: you want to pick from?
Speaker 2: Now about what going takes saying to the beat, o Joe, no.
Speaker 1: Boy, Hey what you know what? Hold on? Let me
Speaker 1: hold on? Yeah, we at church. I'm excusing myself.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, chat, I bother what going take san to
Speaker 2: the Hey okay, joy, let me get before.
Speaker 1: I ain't get the old joke. I'm I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you one thing. I'm gonnaell. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: one thing. I don't know if you ever been to
Speaker 1: the d R. I have been. I ain't been.
Speaker 2: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: And it ain't no point in taking sand to the
Speaker 1: beach where the sand is already there. Nah not listen,
Speaker 1: I might just stay on home ship. Yeah, oh there,
Speaker 1: it is all right. You're about to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Let me slow down. Okay, I'm gonna slow down a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Nobody, no nos, the trouble. Hey, hey, hey, I'm doing
Speaker 2: all this lying. Actually, I had my kids all weekend, man,
Speaker 2: all week man.
Speaker 1: All week Do you have the kids out there?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I had all up with me.
Speaker 2: Oh babe, I'm not going with no kid.
Speaker 1: I might come back with it for you. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you like, what if it is
Speaker 2: what you said it is, I leave with not.
Speaker 1: I leave with three. I can't with three lead with five.
Speaker 1: I'm just basing everything off of using my peripheral vision.
Speaker 1: So I was with the kids and then the family
Speaker 1: I was. I was on on daddy duty time making
Speaker 1: sure they enjoyed theirself. But I got eyes to I
Speaker 1: got eyes I got, I got two of them. I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to use her and then based on what I saw.
Speaker 1: Based on what I saw is different. It's different. Let
Speaker 1: me have it. We have a Dominican community here at Miami,
Speaker 1: but actually being in puta Khan and being able to
Speaker 1: see it for yourself, it's different. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to explain it. Oh we ay, it's different. Man, boy, listen,
Speaker 1: what about? What about?
Speaker 2: What about Columbia? Brazil?
Speaker 1: What I don't owe nobody? I don't listen. I now
Speaker 1: don't know. Hell, let's start in the dr first, sat
Speaker 1: in dall where will work out? Way around? The only
Speaker 1: thing I know about Columbia is probabo esketball.
Speaker 2: That's it. But he now everybody be going are to
Speaker 2: get get get there, get veneers?
Speaker 1: Now where in Columbia? Okay, okay, okay, I get you
Speaker 1: get a third? Thirty five dollars? Doctor Montoya. I think
Speaker 1: he got? Now Columbia, I get.
Speaker 2: I don't know what yo?
Speaker 1: Hey, I thought he a famous?
Speaker 3: I think hey, but the veneer would be so big
Speaker 3: that people can't even close their bow real.
Speaker 1: Damn h.
Speaker 2: Now I wouldn't feel cuked by man. It's hard. Now,
Speaker 2: Look if I'm if I'm I'm in a foreign country,
Speaker 2: O yo, and I need to have something done, I
Speaker 2: gotta have it done.
Speaker 1: But as far as going and getting it done, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm no. Hell, you have to understand they do it.
Speaker 1: I think they do a good job. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: in Columbia, and the price point is a little bit
Speaker 1: less expensive it is, then would it would be here
Speaker 1: tight as tightness where they do twin tightens, where they
Speaker 1: do twin way. It's it's hot in here. Hold on, man,
Speaker 1: keep wiping my faith. Let me turn on what you're doing?
Speaker 2: Why you ain't in the bed?
Speaker 1: M hm?
Speaker 2: Really bromh Yeah they yeah, I thought so.
Speaker 3: Chat people be going, don't they be going to Columbia
Speaker 3: getting bbl's and getting a.
Speaker 1: Dinner work done.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the capital. Columbia is the BBL capital.
Speaker 3: Uh huh up in the down Columbia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might need to go to Turkey.
Speaker 3: Get me a hairline, I mean, get me one of
Speaker 3: more Paul George hairlines.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but hey, listen, you want to talk about hairlines.
Speaker 1: The only hairline I won't if I was ever to decide, like, listen,
Speaker 1: my headline is not receiving. But if it was to receive.
Speaker 1: At any point, I decided to grow it out. I
Speaker 1: want my hairline, like what's the name from?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Used to be on We used to be on first
Speaker 1: tape man Jaylen Rose, Jayln Rose. Yeah, but Jennet, Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know who Jennen Rose. Bob is, boy, young boy.
Speaker 1: He he had to be an engineer. Man, look here, hey,
Speaker 1: Jen and Rose Barba had to be an engineer. I
Speaker 1: ain't never seen nothing so clean and sharp like that,
Speaker 1: boy about everything?
Speaker 2: Man, you see Paul George, Paul George a lost by one.
Speaker 2: I mean, Paul George hairline right here?
Speaker 1: Real? Yeah, hey, hey that joke he raised it like
Speaker 1: this here the whole head go.
Speaker 2: Back, comb down.
Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't never noticed that, man, PG. Hey, I
Speaker 1: need that PG. And the Turkey.
Speaker 3: Turkey is where you go for hair trans playing, because
Speaker 3: you know they pull it at the back and then
Speaker 3: they put it, you know, put it right here. But
Speaker 3: you can't work out, you can't sweat to anything for
Speaker 3: like three to five weeks.
Speaker 1: I got a question though, Yeah, I wish and this
Speaker 1: is all jokes aside, I wish there was a way.
Speaker 1: I know, if you're missing hair, they pull it from
Speaker 1: the back and they put in places so you can
Speaker 1: actually grow. I would love to know what it feels like.
Speaker 1: They're having full beard like my beard. I'm just being
Speaker 1: honest and we family, so I can be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It grows in patches, and if I do want to
Speaker 1: grow in it and allow it.
Speaker 2: To be splotchy, I can tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can come on you.
Speaker 7: Hey this they said your beard. Look, you have Cuban
Speaker 7: hair played man hold Joe to toud you they got
Speaker 7: pubic hair playing in it for beer?
Speaker 1: Hey do that now? Listen? Now that's some prascina to
Speaker 1: that that I'm gonna do. I can I mister, we family,
Speaker 1: I can talk to you now. Transplant no, not not
Speaker 1: hair and my hair grow fine. I've said if I
Speaker 1: can grow a beard, and there was a way I
Speaker 1: can get surgery to make my voice deeper. And you
Speaker 1: see how I talk when I talk and it's like
Speaker 1: I got a I God, damn some Plano voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all want I want to be able to wake up
Speaker 1: on the phone. Look a look at PGR hair liing? Hell,
Speaker 1: where's that? Look at PGR hair lying? No, he just
Speaker 1: don't have a haircut. Uh, even if you tag it up.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, look at that. Look at deep that.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, look look at the side.
Speaker 1: What that point is? Look at the point? Is that
Speaker 1: damn bes a eyebrow? Hey, if you did that, my
Speaker 1: homeway and I want I just want I want that
Speaker 1: hairpull the hair.
Speaker 3: I want my hair. You know my hair used to
Speaker 3: be down here that Pretty soon, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: let that thing go like my brother. Yeah, I might
Speaker 3: even go to Turkey.
Speaker 8: I think, O Joe Froze, I'm right here, Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But uh, that's what I'm gonna do, o Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: The Steelers and Aaron Rodgers could reportedly have a deal
Speaker 3: done by tomorrow. He did get them a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: forty five. He could be joining them soon. Is this
Speaker 3: a good move by the Steelers? Might be the only move?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I'm just here ready to say that. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if they want to go back to Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: but the only move for them to do at this point.
Speaker 1: Even though the issues that Aaron Rodgers had when it
Speaker 1: was with the Jets it didn't work out, some of
Speaker 1: the things that he did away from the away from
Speaker 1: the game that affected him you know, on the field,
Speaker 1: if there's a team, if there's a team or a
Speaker 1: place where we can go where you understand, you have
Speaker 1: to change your ways because now you on the back
Speaker 1: end where they don't need you. They don't need you,
Speaker 1: and you have to find a way, you know, to
Speaker 1: to getting good gracious with the NFL in journal, letting
Speaker 1: them know. Okay, you know what. I don't have the
Speaker 1: leverage I used to have. Things are a little bit
Speaker 1: different now the game is getting younger. I'm not the
Speaker 1: same full time all pro I used to be. I
Speaker 1: got to do things the right way because I'm almost
Speaker 1: out the door. Yeah, I have flashes of brilliants, flashes
Speaker 1: of brilliance every so often. I'm up and down. This
Speaker 1: is this could be my last stop. He could you got?
Speaker 1: You got? You got George figures of work with. You've
Speaker 1: got DK DK Metcal have to work with. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure huh and he nice. I'm not sure what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do in the backfield. You need somebody to take
Speaker 1: that pressure off of him so we don't have to
Speaker 1: do so much.
Speaker 3: Not to cut you off. It looks like Nigie Harris
Speaker 3: is about to side with the Chargers. Yeah, Jaalen Warren
Speaker 3: is a fridge and too or he's he back because
Speaker 3: you know, everybody feels that they can go get a
Speaker 3: back because a lot of times people feel like the
Speaker 3: college back his most value is when he first come out,
Speaker 3: because guess what, Joe, he's coming out at the twenty
Speaker 3: one or twenty two year old and we get it
Speaker 3: for three to four years, and we ain't got to
Speaker 3: do nothing at least for three years. So we run
Speaker 3: the tread off the times and then pluck the ball.
Speaker 3: Let somebody else get him, so we feel we got
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 1: Out of him.
Speaker 2: That's how they think. I hate that he's restricted. I
Speaker 2: hate that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't like I don't like the
Speaker 1: fact that the running back position still, if you look
Speaker 1: at the numbers that some of the recent running backs
Speaker 1: have gotten today, is not valued the way it should
Speaker 1: be unless you are special. Unless you are special, and
Speaker 1: I mean you could look at it. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to say any names because to me, it's somewhat
Speaker 1: dishes back for you know, to some of the deals
Speaker 1: that they have to sign one year deal.
Speaker 3: They did, but the running back last year, oh Joe,
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I ain't talk about. But you talk
Speaker 3: about the top five backs. Let's say you say sau
Speaker 3: take Derrick Henry, take Josh Jacobs, you take who else?
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 1: Taylor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, who else was in that group? That that's your
Speaker 3: top five right there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's it's like them. And then there's a
Speaker 1: huge drunk off, like off the cliff, like like, man,
Speaker 1: what the hell now, that's that's crazy. Just I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of the numbers. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: some of the numbers and like, it is the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's still good money, but for the position and what
Speaker 1: you have to go through, the wear and tear, the
Speaker 1: pounding pause.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I thought he was going to the charge
Speaker 3: looking at the charges. Somebody talking about he just signed
Speaker 3: with the ram one year, Notagie Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that earlier before I got here. I
Speaker 1: saw that on Twitter. He signed with the Chargers right
Speaker 1: one year?
Speaker 3: Okay, nine point two five, Okay, they just got they
Speaker 3: had the number right, but they had the wrong team.
Speaker 3: I look think about it, old Joe, look about how
Speaker 3: many quarterbacks moved and they're one of the last ones
Speaker 3: to move. Is a four time league MVP, a super
Speaker 3: Bowl winning quarterback. That's you tell him everything he needs
Speaker 3: to know. Yeah, if this is not a wake up
Speaker 3: call for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would scare me. Honestly, it would scare me.
Speaker 1: They say it was scare me to the point where
Speaker 1: I'm walking on eggshells. Where an NFL in which I
Speaker 1: dominated for a very long time, and I've had leverage
Speaker 1: for a very long time, I know I no longer
Speaker 1: have that leverage. They no longer need me right now.
Speaker 1: The fact that they had an opportunity in New York
Speaker 1: and didn't get it done and they actually letting me go.
Speaker 1: I've never been on the losing side of things in
Speaker 1: that manner. You know what, We're gonna show me the door.
Speaker 3: We good shoot man raiders ready to say, hey, we'll
Speaker 3: trade for GINO Seattle says, Nah, we want Sam Donald. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember I told you, Ojo, I said, I like
Speaker 3: a deal for Sam Donald like what Baker Mayfield got. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not finna get I'm not finna give him. No
Speaker 3: forty five fifty million dollars about thirty three million dollars.
Speaker 3: Baker has played willing well. Next year, Baker probably if
Speaker 3: he plays well like he played last year, he's probably
Speaker 3: gonna they gonna tear that deal up and he's probably
Speaker 3: get forty five fifty million dollars. Baker has played unbelievable
Speaker 3: and Chris Godwin turned down more money to stay. He
Speaker 3: turned out well.
Speaker 2: He had an opportunity to go to the Patriots, if
Speaker 2: I if I'm reading, if I'm ready correctly, but he
Speaker 2: took less money to stay in Tampa. Excuse me, play
Speaker 2: alongside Mike Evans and have Baker Mayfield as his quarterback.
Speaker 2: Got no problem with that.
Speaker 3: But this is your like you said, O Joe, this
Speaker 3: absolutely should be wake up call for Aaron Rodgers because
Speaker 3: your resume, because see your resume, it doesn't you didn't
Speaker 3: do that resume in Pittsburgh. You didn't do that resume X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z. What you did in Green Bay, they'll
Speaker 3: be they'll forever remember you.
Speaker 1: But I ain't.
Speaker 2: Hey, I need you to do some of that for
Speaker 2: what you did in Green Valley. Need you do so
Speaker 2: that him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he listened. He had he had everything he needed.
Speaker 1: They gave him everything he needed. They gave him everything
Speaker 1: you wanted. And he didn't get it done. He did
Speaker 1: not he didn't get it done.
Speaker 3: He wanted, he wanted random and Randall Cobb he got it,
Speaker 3: he wanted, got it, Adams he got got it.
Speaker 2: He wanted his offensive coordinator, he.
Speaker 1: Got it, got it. I mean they thank your hack
Speaker 1: it oh a lot.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers because he snaked Lebroncos pretend like yo, he
Speaker 3: was interested, knowing he wasn't going got Daniel Hackett that job.
Speaker 3: And then he's like, you know what I want, Nathan
Speaker 3: your Hackett knowing good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, But look at look at the power
Speaker 1: and leverage as a quarterback that a quarterback has, especially
Speaker 1: with quarterback, with the accolades and the resume that he has.
Speaker 1: There's some of the things that he can pull off.
Speaker 1: Come to an organization and they give you the keys.
Speaker 1: They gave you everything, now they give you everything. But
Speaker 1: look how you're acting when it was time for mini camp,
Speaker 1: when it was time to be a leader of men,
Speaker 1: the one person that the players are supposed to be
Speaker 1: able to look up to and actually count on. You
Speaker 1: are completely different. You do things your own way, not
Speaker 1: like the Tom Bradys, the Peyton Mannings, or the Drew Breeses.
Speaker 1: But you do you do it your own way. Now
Speaker 1: you get another shot in Pittsburgh, and I would think
Speaker 1: the best, the best thing for you to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: who am I to tell somebody on how to conduct
Speaker 1: themselves when to come to play in the game of
Speaker 1: football when I was an asshole.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, oh, Joe, when you go to a
Speaker 3: new team, you show up for many camps and no
Speaker 3: tas because you try to ingratiate yourself into that team structure.
Speaker 3: Because what you did where you came from has no
Speaker 3: bearing on.
Speaker 1: What you're going to do here. That was my approach
Speaker 1: when I went to Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I understood what I had accomplished in Denver, but how
Speaker 3: was that gonna help me at Baltimore.
Speaker 2: John wasn't throwing me the ball.
Speaker 3: I wasn't in Mile High and so now I got
Speaker 3: to show people, Okay, this is how the guy that
Speaker 3: came here, This is how I became who I became.
Speaker 3: The way you practice, the way you do things, the
Speaker 3: attendeveness that you show. I didn't think I was because
Speaker 3: I had Super Bowl rings and I was an All
Speaker 3: pro YadA YadA YadA. I didn't go in there thinking
Speaker 3: I was better than them. I went in that humble myself. Hey,
Speaker 3: I need to being on tha here. I am the
Speaker 3: only thing I did say. They used to have a test, Ojo,
Speaker 3: the conditioning tests. You had to run on a treadmill.
Speaker 1: How you did? Man?
Speaker 3: I told Friday, you remember Friday Friday with y'all. Y'all
Speaker 3: had Chip in Friday too, but the.
Speaker 1: Roles were reversed.
Speaker 3: Friday was the head. Chip was their sister, and Cincinnati
Speaker 3: Chip was the head. Friday was to be a sister.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Man.
Speaker 2: They got on the thing and you know, you start
Speaker 2: off in like eight.
Speaker 3: You run on that for two minutes and they go
Speaker 3: to nine eight down, But you gotta be up to
Speaker 3: like twenty minutes. And I'm looking at everybody and I'm
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, is this a new form of football?
Speaker 3: Cause we ain't gonna be playing on the treadmill, I
Speaker 3: said Friday, I'll be back. I went right upstairs see Brian.
Speaker 3: I said, bro, what what the trademill got to do?
Speaker 3: Work it out right? He said, what's wrong? I said, bro,
Speaker 3: I run on the grass. I run on the ground.
Speaker 3: I played football on the ground. I said, bro, I
Speaker 3: can't do that. The car ain't no worry about it.
Speaker 3: I said, I can't right back down, I said, I
Speaker 3: talked to Brian, you ain't running me.
Speaker 1: I like stuff like that. I like stuff like gases,
Speaker 1: condition and to stuff that. I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I like running, Ojo, I like actually running. And
Speaker 2: I had just I had just got off a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2: I had just I had just.
Speaker 1: Got That's understandable, that's understandable. That's understanding.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you this, oh Joe, how do
Speaker 3: you think the pairing is going to be with Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers and Mike Toumblin.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. Listen, one thing about it. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you any player, no matter who you are, no
Speaker 1: matter what you've done in the NFL, they have respect
Speaker 1: for their young the young bull out there. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about young bull. They have respect for Mike Tomlin. All
Speaker 1: of them including are and walking in that building going
Speaker 1: to play for that historic franchise. But coach had been
Speaker 1: consistently good. I mean, not where they should be, but
Speaker 1: he's been consistently good and always winning year and a
Speaker 1: year out. You're coming there, you know, with respect, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Mike Tomlin could to give him that
Speaker 1: same respect based on who he is and what he's done.
Speaker 1: But again, like you said, the whole no weight and
Speaker 1: have no bearing on what you've done so far. You
Speaker 1: got you got to update your resume here. You do,
Speaker 1: you absolutely do, And that's what I That's what I
Speaker 1: love about sports. This ain't no day, bro, you got no.
Speaker 1: You gotta update your resume every game. This is a
Speaker 1: game to game.
Speaker 3: Now you get an opportunity to do it because this
Speaker 3: ain't no This ain't like no regular job. Won't your
Speaker 3: where we have a year of review. Now we review
Speaker 3: your stuff every week.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait till the end of the year
Speaker 2: to make a decision.
Speaker 3: I might need to get you up out of here
Speaker 3: after week five, after week six, after week ten.
Speaker 1: I can't be afraid to make change, right, right.
Speaker 2: The only constant you will ever have in life is change,
Speaker 2: whether you choose to adapt and evolve and change with it.
Speaker 2: But change is the only thing that's constant.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 3: Hopefully I hope Aaron understands that, Yes, your career in
Speaker 3: Green Bay was sensational. I mean, some people might have
Speaker 3: thanked you based on who you are, your body of work,
Speaker 3: those m vps, the consistency. Uh, the touchdown to interception ratio.
Speaker 3: Some people might say, but damn, Aaron, you left you
Speaker 3: you you you left some out there, losing to Jimmy
Speaker 3: Garoppolo twice, Russell Wilson in his third year. Yeah, uh
Speaker 3: you lost to uh who else lost to?
Speaker 1: Tom?
Speaker 3: You wanted you, you wanted home field. You said, I
Speaker 3: want to roll to the super Bowl, to lead through
Speaker 3: Green Bay. And I've been damn if you ain't let
Speaker 3: Tom its first year in Tampa, come there and put
Speaker 3: pus in you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for m vps, you gotta get.
Speaker 2: You gotta get to at least two to three super Bowls. O't, Joe.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying you gotta. You gotta get to at
Speaker 2: least two to three with four m.
Speaker 1: Vps, don't, Joe? Yeah? Four?
Speaker 3: Manning Gas the most he had five Mannie with the
Speaker 3: three super Bowls. I think Montana has two m vps.
Speaker 3: Montana went to four super Bowls. Brett Farr went to
Speaker 3: two and we got one m VP. He went to
Speaker 3: five with four m vps. You got to be at
Speaker 3: least two super Bowls. You got to.
Speaker 2: You got to And don't give look and he I mean,
Speaker 2: he ain't like he ain't have no weapons on your
Speaker 2: Jordan Nelson and Greg Jennis and Donald Driver. He's always always,
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be it's very interesting to see.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's gonna be very It was. It was difficult
Speaker 3: seeing him in a Jazz uniform because on you you
Speaker 3: get so customed to seeing a guy in a said uniform.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, damn, I mean, now you'll probably
Speaker 3: see him in a different uniform, maybe the Steelers.
Speaker 2: It seemed like, you know, for what, who said that
Speaker 2: schefter that a deal.
Speaker 3: Reported it's Pro Football talk saying it could be a
Speaker 3: deal to see Aaron Rodgers in a different uniform.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Mike, for you listen, they need it, though,
Speaker 6: they need it, even though it is not Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 6: of old.
Speaker 1: But the fact that, okay, if we can get him
Speaker 1: somewhere just close to being being a little consistent, we'll
Speaker 1: be all right, because look, we got to deal with
Speaker 1: already in our division. We ain't see you know where
Speaker 1: else got to make another splash the Cleveland Browns. There
Speaker 1: is no way to compete in the AFC North unless
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback because in defense, they can't get
Speaker 1: it done. You're not gonna dominate on defense. That can't
Speaker 1: be your identity. Not going against je Burrow and Lamar Jackson. No, now,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers being in Pittsburgh, the Cleveland Browns are gonna
Speaker 1: have to make a splash. I don't know where they're
Speaker 1: gonna go. I don't know who they're gonna get, but
Speaker 1: they don't have any choice but to make a slash
Speaker 1: because you can't rely on your defense to.
Speaker 3: Be able to star of these teams now cause you
Speaker 3: got because here's the thing, you gotta score. Then ifel's
Speaker 3: about scoring, that's why the instituted the rules. Because they
Speaker 3: like scoring. We like scoring, Okjoe. Baseball, they like to
Speaker 3: see the ball go over the fence. Basketball, they like
Speaker 3: to see people. They like to see one twenty seven,
Speaker 3: twenty seven.
Speaker 1: They like one forty five to one forty three.
Speaker 2: That's what we like.
Speaker 3: We've always liked scoring baseball. I mean, maybe you get
Speaker 3: ap Purance and he wants to see a two to
Speaker 3: one basketball game.
Speaker 1: I'm excuse me, that two to one baseball game right
Speaker 1: right right in soccer, but no, oh Joe, I don't
Speaker 1: want to see that. Excuse me and hockey, no, bro,
Speaker 1: I will put hey make it six five baseball, make
Speaker 1: it ten eleven?
Speaker 2: Now what I want to see all that other stuff?
Speaker 3: I don't care no about that, right, It's being reported
Speaker 3: the Steelers are also saidy Darius Slay, Oh Joe you.
Speaker 1: Like that boob? Oh yeah, yeah, slick slaves going there,
Speaker 1: boy Kate, Hey what listen, I'm a bangal at hard right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chat y'all stay with me real quick now.
Speaker 1: Darius Slay is well capable of still being an elite
Speaker 1: corner in his NFL. If you Washington play last year,
Speaker 1: you've seen some of the clips that I saw, still
Speaker 1: they still got it.
Speaker 3: It's because if if Cincinnati brings back T Higgins, you
Speaker 3: got to deal with T Higgins and he got to
Speaker 3: deal with he gotta deal with Bateman, and he got
Speaker 3: to deal with the other uh flowers.
Speaker 1: But listen, it's a good thing. I like it. The
Speaker 1: pairing this is. It's a nice pair now, might be
Speaker 1: two of the best pairings outside of Marlon Humphrey and
Speaker 1: what's uh Nick Wiggins. I like he looks he didn't
Speaker 1: little on the slim side, but he's nice. Joey Porter,
Speaker 1: Darius Slay, I like that. I really liked it. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Chad slave still like that. But again,
Speaker 1: you know how to go age and number numbers game
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. He just got to move up a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it ain't too bad. It ain't too bad.
Speaker 2: No, what's the good. What's the numbers on slate? Do
Speaker 2: we get the numbers? One year deal? Two year deal?
Speaker 1: I thought it was two when I saw it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was God damn slave boy. Hey, sleepy out.
Speaker 2: There, Peyton man, it went the Port Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: O't joke, Hey, Slapy out there like I do. Bro
Speaker 1: when I you know, when I used to play, when
Speaker 1: I used to play corner by.
Speaker 2: Nah, you can't play no conner.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey honesty. I used to stare, stare, read break
Speaker 1: man boy. I was a real deal. Brock the volume