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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steelers Nation, and how we do it? Well,

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Speaker 2: that's good us too. Our number two here of the

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Speaker 2: drive as we roll along on this Tuesday, and it

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Speaker 2: is time now to take a look at the playoff

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Speaker 2: race across the National Football League. Matt a little more

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Speaker 2: clarity after last night's Monday night football clash in so Far,

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Speaker 2: where the Chargers in overtime defeated the Eagles twenty two

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Speaker 2: to nineteen. A little bit of an ugly one from

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Speaker 2: the standpoint of just a lot of turnovers and mistakes

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Speaker 2: by Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Took three turnovers on one play.

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Speaker 2: Three turnovers on one play, two Hurts and one by

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Speaker 2: the Chargers defender Jalen Hurts had an interception and a

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Speaker 2: fumble on the same play. That's impressive to do as

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Speaker 2: a quarterback in the National Football League, I tell you.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, So it's brings into some clarity That Chargers

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Speaker 2: win changes a lot. I don't know if it affects

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Speaker 2: the Steelers that much, because I had this conversation with

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Speaker 2: Rob King this morning. I filled in for Max On

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Speaker 2: in the locker room so you know, listen, you do

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Speaker 2: you do more shows than you do, more shows than

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Speaker 2: who's the people in Vegas? The two dudes more shows

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Speaker 2: than singed and Roy dang it, butchered my own joke,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Kinger was like, oh, that's a that's

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Speaker 2: you know, you would have from a Steelers standpoint, you

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Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen the Chargers lose. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I get it in theory. I

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Speaker 2: was like, but it's it feels like the North or

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Speaker 2: nothing for the Steelers and the Ravens, especially after last night.

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Speaker 2: But I'm more convinced of that than ever.

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Speaker 3: See how I think in fact things is on Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: after watching the Chiefs lose to Houston a good game,

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Speaker 3: I tweeted out my seven AFC prediction teams and I

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Speaker 3: included the Chiefs, and I knew that that was kind

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Speaker 3: of out on a limb, you know.

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Speaker 2: The other ones were, who'd you have out besides the

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Speaker 3: Okay, And that's short of going this. My logic was,

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Speaker 3: I think the cults are about ready to crash and burn,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're crashed and now they're setting themselves

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Speaker 3: on fire. They're crashing and burning.

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Speaker 2: They might need one more win just to not have

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Speaker 2: a losing record this season, and I'm not sure they'll

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 3: Insane, I mean, like their schedule post by they're on

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Speaker 3: a three game losing streetfom is brutal or now they're

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Speaker 3: on'll have a quarterback and Rivers.

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Speaker 2: And Seattle in San Francisco and Houston and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: And TV sentence a tweet by J. J. Watt the

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Speaker 3: Rivers and Stikeen. I've been back and forth talking plays

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Speaker 3: that the Rivers installed this offense on, you know, so

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be on up of the offense for his

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Speaker 3: high school team but whatever. I don't know. I never

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Speaker 3: had a problem with him mentally, but he's not gonna

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Speaker 3: save their season and they're on the outside looking at already,

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Speaker 3: so they need something to go their way anyway. So

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Speaker 3: my logic with putting the Chiefs in was, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: think the Colts are going to get out of their way,

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Speaker 3: which correct, Yes, I thought the Chargers would get out

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Speaker 3: of their way because I don't think they can block anybody,

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Speaker 3: which I was right about that part. Last night, you

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Speaker 3: justin you do something. I know you got a broken

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Speaker 3: to do it because we can't block anybody. But because

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Speaker 3: the Chargers won, I think that's all they need. But

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs are now dead. I mean, so

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Speaker 3: that pretty much narrows it down to seven. And I

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Speaker 3: don't I mean Ravens or Steelers is still up for debate. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in terms of who's going to go and the seatings,

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Speaker 3: they are still up for debate. But just because I

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Speaker 3: I have a very good chance to get in, I

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Speaker 3: think the Chargers winning is good because I don't want

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Speaker 2: I completely agree, right right.

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Speaker 3: There's no way I want my homes in.

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Speaker 2: Completely agree. And the Chargers winning is good because they

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Speaker 2: have a tiebreaker over Buffalo. And I would much rather

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Speaker 2: the Chargers come to Pittsburgh in January than Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think the North winner is going to

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh absolutely, I mean unless Jacksonville. Jacksonville schedule isn't terrible.

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Speaker 2: go two and two they've got eleven wins. The Steelers, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Your prize for winning division is probably, oh, you get

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Speaker 2: It's not what I want. That's That's where I was

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Speaker 2: going with it too. Was I would much, much, much,

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Speaker 2: much much rather welcome the Chargers to town than the

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Speaker 3: Agreed, you played them both.

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Speaker 2: Houston different conversation, because yes, you'd have some weather benefits

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Speaker 2: I think they have the best defense in the NFL

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're playing the best of those three teams.

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Speaker 2: So it feels like Chiefs Cionora, Colts Cionora, and it

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Speaker 2: just comes down to Texans, Bills, Chargers for those seven

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Speaker 3: So do we are we pretty confident Jacksonville wins the South?

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Speaker 3: Then Houston could catch them, could catch them. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Houston beat them the first time.

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Speaker 3: So if Houston I would mind Jacksonville coming to town,

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Speaker 3: that might be my pick if we get anybody that

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I would rather have Jacksonville or the Chargers

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Speaker 2: much more than the bills of the Texans A thousand

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Speaker 3: What I find it crazy that I you would not

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Speaker 3: Lamar and Mahomes aren't in the AFC playoffs. Dude, Wild

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Speaker 2: Wild? Yeah, that's looking like it's going to be the case.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, Mahome or it. Baltimore still has

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Speaker 3: A lot to them.

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Speaker 2: You're You're absolutely right, Baltimore. Kansas City, who were kind

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Speaker 2: that only proverbial Tier one guys sophomore Drake May and

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Speaker 3: But they have no lineman. They still I mean, I

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Speaker 2: All and they're not getting Joe Aalt.

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Speaker 3: Back for a year. I think the thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's man, that's so unfortunate for them because you're

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Speaker 2: our chances with anybody. Yeah, And that is, you know,

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Speaker 2: quite often the difference. So Jacksonville has the division, has

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Speaker 2: the division lead over the Texans and the Colts by game.

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Speaker 2: So they're the three seed at nine and four Steelers

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Speaker 2: at seven and six Chargers the tiebreaker over the Bills.

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Speaker 2: So that's five LA, six, Buffalo, seven Houston. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Pathang Miami needs like a miracle, absolutely miracle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, only four teams have been mathematically

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Speaker 2: eliminated in the AFC. But Cincinnati, Miami real, real, real

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Speaker 2: you're Baltimore, there's at least a clear path for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: It's that we probably have to win out.

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Speaker 3: I think we. I'm really confident who the six are

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Speaker 2: Know exactly right right, right right now, I would feel

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Speaker 2: very confident put playing that lottery ticket of those six,

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Speaker 2: those six Denver, New England, Jacksonville, Chargers, Buffalo and Houston

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Speaker 2: and then which now the Steelers have the upper upper hand,

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Speaker 2: the advantage to get to I think, like.

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Speaker 3: The shows, how important that last game huge.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely massive. So that's the playoff picture in the a

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for the Lions, so bad for the

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Speaker 3: feel bad for the Chiefs, not because they've had so

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Speaker 3: much success lately. That that too, but right now, right

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Speaker 3: they don't look like a playoff team. The Lions look

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. They get it. They're really good. They're

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Speaker 3: not lesser than they've been in recent years. They're just

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Speaker 2: But if the playoffs started today, the Lions would be

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Speaker 3: So they need help.

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Speaker 2: In the NFC, they need help. They do rams the

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Speaker 2: still in that third seed at eight and five despite

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Speaker 2: that loss, because.

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Speaker 3: Win the division, right.

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Speaker 2: They would need a colossal collapse, and even then the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys would have to be perfect the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: Almost seems like the Eagles are guaranteed the three seed.

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Speaker 2: It feels feels that way unless you know, Tampa Carolina

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Speaker 3: But they've been bad. I mean, Tampa's been bad. They're

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Speaker 3: almost like the North where they're I feel like the

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Speaker 3: South winner is just going to be the four seed,

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Speaker 2: right right, in all likelihood, because the ten wins, Seahawks

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Speaker 2: are slotted into that five seed. The Niners at nine

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Speaker 2: Bears one game ahead of the Lions in the seventh seed.

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Speaker 2: That's wild though. The Bears go from uh having the

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Speaker 2: tie breaker to the first seed now to the last team.

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Speaker 2: They were the one seed a week ago with the

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Speaker 2: tie breakers. Now they're the seventh seed and trying to

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Speaker 2: hold off the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Life because of that game Man San fran was the

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Speaker 3: eight and they go to the six just by sitting

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Speaker 3: at home on a bye and they knew they were

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Speaker 3: going to It didn't matter who won. They were going

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Speaker 3: to be six.

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Speaker 2: Or they were going to Yes, because they have a

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Speaker 3: They have an easy schedule to those three teams. When

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Speaker 3: could do good things for the Niners.

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Speaker 2: picture outlook for week fifteen. When we return. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into some week fifteen power rankings. Ooh nice, where the

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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as it's time to get

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Speaker 2: to our Tuesday power rankings, and there's not much change

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the order here as people can expect.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure thirty second the Raiders, thirty first the Titans,

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Speaker 2: as they kind of have been all year. The Titans

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Speaker 2: that thirty first spot, I don't hate that. I mean

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, we're kind of splitting hairs. I

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Speaker 2: I think the Raiders are absolutely fair.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'll win again, and they're miserable.

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Speaker 2: Not great in Viva Las Vegas. And yeah, the Titans,

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds funny for a two and eleven team,

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Speaker 2: things to build on. You got you gotta find the coach,

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Speaker 2: You've got to have a good offseason. You're gonna be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these bottom feeding teams and what I'm finding interesting here.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Nice, Happy birthday, Pops.

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Speaker 3: The Giants currently have the first overall pick, and I

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Speaker 3: think the Titans have two. I'm not sure if they do.

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Speaker 3: Are the Raiders, but neither one of them will draft

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders absolutely should could you know? Whatever?

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Raiders will. Raiders could get to one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'll go past three because I don't

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Speaker 2: I think they're really and they would definitely draft the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I would think so. I would think so oho, they

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Speaker 2: It's a fair question to ask. And uh, I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Mendoz it might be the right quarterback

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Speaker 2: He seems like a Kirk Cousins level dork, right, And

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Speaker 2: I mean that affectionately. I got no problem, sure, but

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Speaker 2: I would much rather have him be that than have

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Speaker 3: Now, this is a conversation for the off season, but

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Speaker 2: Guy in the room. Giants check in at number thirty.

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Speaker 3: Fine, fine, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This week they got man handled at home by the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: They've shut a lot of guys down too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're bad, but they're not like weapons grade bad

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind taking that team over and try to

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Speaker 2: And that they do. And Kyler Murray will not return

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if we see him start another game

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Speaker 3: He's gotta shut out by the Vikes.

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Speaker 2: Got shut out by the Vikings. Zach Ertz an ugly

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Speaker 2: Aco injury.

438
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be a career ender.

439
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: Third time in like the last month or two that

440
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: Jaydon Daniels has left the game with an injury, Like,

441
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

442
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 3: Right? What are we doing here? Right? And they're old

443
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: in terms of like building for next year other than

444
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 3: the quarterback.

445
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: You and I both July August training camp time we talked.

446
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: We did. We did like a segment or an hour

447
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: one day where we did, like, pick a couple teams

448
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 2: that are gonna rise this year. Yeah, pick a couple

449
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: teams that are gonna fall this year.

450
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 3: They were the obvious follower for me.

451
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: They were they were I think both of our answer

452
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: and I think I still might have picked them to

453
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,239
Speaker 2: go to the playoffs. And you were like, I think

454
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: they'll be right on that eight seven line.

455
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: I thought they'd be around five hundred.

456
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: Like I think I said that they'll go nine and

457
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: eight or ten and seven and find a way to

458
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: squeak in. But man, this is this is a real

459
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: this is a real step back. I we I think

460
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: even you and I who thought they would take a

461
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: step back this year didn't think it was gonna be

462
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: this dress.

463
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: Now and some of its quarterback injury. But it's more

464
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: than that. I mean, the defense is so old yeah again.

465
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: And the thing is they misevaluated themselves, and I saw

466
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: that one coming mile away, Like we're a tunsol and

467
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: debo away from winning the super Bowl. We were a

468
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: final fourteen, that's all we need. Like you were lucky

469
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: at the fut fortunate.

470
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a lot fall right for you last year.

471
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: Lex Principal, Yeah, had a lot fall right for you

472
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 3: last year, and it all came shattering out right.

473
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: The Saints get a surprise win over Tampa and they

474
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: moved five spots to twenty five. Tyler Shuck keep doing

475
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: your thing, dude. Keep the Saints out of the quarterback market.

476
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's where they belong. I guess they're

477
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 3: ahead of Arizona in Washington.

478
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: I tell you what, you were banging the drum for

479
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck back in combine and draft season.

480
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: And I mean, considering you used an early second round

481
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: pick on an old quarterback, you might want to see

482
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: one more season from the guy, you know.

483
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Falcons check in at number twenty four. Uh, they're

484
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: gonna finish double digit losses. They don't have a first

485
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: round pick.

486
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a.

487
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: Lot to hang your hat on there. Bjhon Robinson is great. Uh.

488
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Walker I think might win Defensive Rookie of the Year.

489
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm really impressed with them.

490
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: But they do not have a lot to It's not

491
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: a copleet in total Raiders situation, but it's pretty close.

492
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: The problem with them big picture is if Pennix isn't it,

493
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 3: you're screwed because you don't know a first I mean,

494
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: how do you go get the next quarterback? Can you

495
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: have so much money invested in cousins.

496
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: You can't bring in like a Kyler Murray or someone

497
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: like that when you already have all that money tied

498
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: up in it.

499
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: So you've got an expensive quarterback room and you might

500
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: and you have a lot in a first round pick,

501
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: and you might not have a quarterback. Like that's a

502
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: double miss. At least when they took Panix, which I

503
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: didn't understand the time, I'm like, well, one of the

504
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: two will be a give at least give them a

505
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: serviceable quarterback for the next three four years. Maybe not,

506
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: maybe not.

507
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: And when you combine that with not a ton of

508
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: cap flexibility and not a first round pick.

509
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: Right, so you'reating the twenty twenty eight draft to get

510
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: your guy Purgatory. That's brutal.

511
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: And by that point, Bijon's going to be pushing thirty Yeah, right, right, right,

512
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: what Drake London looked like? Yeah, Cincinnati Bengals check in

513
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: at twenty three, Matt, the impossible better than that? The

514
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: impossible playoff dream is dead. But I think I'm with you.

515
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: I think they're better than that. I think they're better

516
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: than the Vikings who are ahead of them. I think

517
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: they might be better than Kansas City at this point,

518
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: if the Bengals played Kansas City this weekend, I don't know.

519
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: I think they're the best team the AFC North right now.

520
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kind of but I mean I thought

521
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: the Steelers and Ravens were pretty equal. I mean, the Bengals,

522
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: I'm glad that they have a couple of losses because

523
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: they could be scary. I mean, they battled the Bills

524
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: to the very end.

525
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad that. I'm glad the Steelers don't have to

526
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: see them down the stretch.

527
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: Right right, right, right now, I think Bengals are fifteenth

528
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: best team the league or thirteenth best in the league

529
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: right now.

530
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Twenty second is the Minnesota Vikings up a few spots

531
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: after one.

532
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Another interesting quarterback situations. McCarthy can it was.

533
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: His best performance? Yeah, he's another one. You love it

534
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: if the Vikings were like, you know what, we're running

535
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: it back with McCarthy for one, look good to nine,

536
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: Come on.

537
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: Nine, finish the season strong, do that the rest of

538
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: the year, and then maybe they'll just like throw a

539
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: some brisette looking guy at yah, you know, as opposed

540
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: to being in the market. Kyler Murray.

541
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love how that's become a thing now

542
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: to make fun of quarterbacks across the NFL when they

543
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: have Have you seen this when they have bad performances,

544
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: is to photoshop them into a JJ McCarthy jersey. Oh

545
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: really like because that that whole like you know meme

546
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: that everyone was making fun of them like they were

547
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: doing photoshopping Jalen Hurts and the JJ McCarthy's jersey. Oh

548
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: boy was he ever. I think a lot of the

549
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: people that have been screaming about how he's been the

550
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: problem in Philadelphia this year starting to feel bad about themselves.

551
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: A little bit.

552
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: We'll get to there in a minute. Dolphins at twenty one,

553
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: I think i'd have them them way higher. They've won

554
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: five of their last six.

555
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: They'd be favored against sixteen teams right now. Yeah, I

556
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: mean they're playing good football, Like I think.

557
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: I have them above the Kansas City Chiefs who check

558
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: in at twenty.

559
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, it's a you're all pretty close,

560
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 3: to be honest, since he Chiefs in Miami.

561
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: I think so. I think I take them all over

562
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings right now. So yeah, despite the Vikings commanding

563
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: win against the Commanders Cowboys checking at nineteen, they dropped

564
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: three spots after the loss of Detroit.

565
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: These teams have all been playing pretty well. I mean,

566
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: I know they lost to the Lions, but Detroit I thought,

567
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: or I thought Dallas was one of the best teams

568
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: league going into that game.

569
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: They've all got their clear cut flaws. Oh yeah, they're

570
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: all also very dangerous, and if they flip that switch

571
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: at the right time, can can put up a lot

572
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 2: of points.

573
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: And all of them could be much higher next year.

574
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: You know, good good off season, you know good.

575
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely staying at number eighteen off their bye week.

576
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: It's the Carolina Panthers seven and six, got some help

577
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: from the Saints, and that's going to make for an interesting,

578
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: interesting month of November there in the NFC South.

579
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: I hate say it this way, but I'm not sure Tampa, Carolina,

580
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: Baltimore or Pittsburgh is better than Dallas, Cincinnatiami a city.

581
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 3: I mean, they're all in the same bucket to me,

582
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: And like, how well are you playing right now? Tampa's

583
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: not playing very well, no, you know at all. Baltimore

584
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: is not playing very well.

585
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: No.

586
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Steelers are a little bit better than those teams.

587
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: I mean, but they weren't playing great going into Baltimore.

588
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's a tough kind of you got to

589
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: go only as good as your recent performances.

590
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: I look at Power rang these aren't lifetime achieving awards.

591
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: No, they're absolutely not. And Tampa Bay checks in at

592
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: seventeen after I mean at one.

593
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: Point there a dog against Miami right now, yes, yeah, absolutely.

594
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: They're a dog against pretty much city, pretty much in

595
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: everybody who's in the same playoff picture. I think they

596
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: would probably be a dog against.

597
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: I would pick Dallas over them.

598
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Maybe the Colts they would be favored against.

599
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the cult s would be lower than all.

600
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: The cults are. We still haven't gotten to them. They

601
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: should know.

602
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: It's a gutsy move. As a power ranker, I've been

603
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: a power ranker, but I would have them below like

604
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: the Bengals right now as currently constructed a quarterback. They

605
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback.

606
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: They just signed a forty four year old right who

607
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: hasn't played it, who's a semi finalist for the Hall

608
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 2: of Fame. Because it's been that long since day.

609
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: We have the best roster in the league, but then

610
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: on a quarterback, So that doesn't mean you're the Wherever

611
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: they're at we haven't mentioned yet. They're too high.

612
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Sixteen stuff have mentioned him yet? Sixteen Baltimore Ravens. Okay,

613
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 2: I mean, but I would have Baltimore ahead of India.

614
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: I don't.

615
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: I think I would. Oh, I would do Indie check.

616
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: You have been mentioned ten minutes ago.

617
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: They checked in at fifteen.

618
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: Okay, falling like a stone though. I mean that's they

619
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: don't have quarterback. You gotta rank this how they are today,

620
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: even I mean Rivers.

621
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: They just signed a guide to the practice squad that

622
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: hasn't taken an NFL snap since January of twenty twenty one.

623
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Oh so, I want to say this earlier when we

624
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: were talking about Rivers. The Colts are in a really

625
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: tough predicament too, no first round pick, so they trade

626
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: for Gardner, Sauce Gardner and for two first so they

627
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: only won this year or next. And one of the

628
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: happiest person people when that happens is Daniel Jones's agent,

629
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: because now.

630
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm getting paid.

631
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: I got the Colts over Barrel. They are going to

632
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: resign my guy who's playing well. They think they can

633
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: win it all with Sauce. They pushed their chips in.

634
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: They don't have resources to go get another quarterback. They're

635
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: gonna pay Daniel Jones what I tell them to pay

636
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones? Okay, And I think the Colts knew that

637
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: the second they made the trade. Of course they did.

638
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: But then he's gonna be ready for next year. So

639
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: now what you do? I mean, like you.

640
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Pushed all your til Halloween of next year, right.

641
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the answer now? I mean like you

642
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: pushed all your chips in and it came up snake eyes.

643
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: It couldn't have gone worse.

644
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: There isn't snake bad luck. Isn't snake eyes good or no?

645
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, We'll check back whatever. Right, you put

646
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: all on black and came up red.

647
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I know that's like you've got snake bitten. Maybe

648
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: is the bad luck? I listen. I don't think there's

649
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: any one right way to do business, or everybody would

650
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: do it. I've told I know, in the few months

651
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: that we've been doing the show regularly together. I know

652
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: I've said this a couple of times. There's no perfect

653
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: defensive scheme in the NFL, or everybody would run it.

654
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: There's no perfect You have to operate like the rams

655
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: and be super aggressive, or you have to operate like

656
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers the Bengals and be more traditional, like they're.

657
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Every quarterback should shit their first year. You know, like

658
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: there's different.

659
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: There's no perfect way to do it or else everybody

660
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: would do it that way. But man, if you can

661
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: think back to like just a month and a half ago,

662
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: when the Colts are on top of the world, yeah,

663
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: and made those huge moves at the trade deadline, and

664
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: everyone was like, see, this is what you do. You

665
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: go after it and you go get them.

666
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: And look at the Cults so much and.

667
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: They're striking while the iron's hot and all that stuff.

668
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: It's kind of like we just talked about the Washington

669
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how they treated their off seasons, like

670
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: I'm sauce away from being the best team in the league.

671
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean the Chiefs aren't sauce away from being the

672
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: best team. You know, like, you gotta be pretty darn

673
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: good to be like a player away to be like,

674
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: now we're the favorite, and.

675
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: There's an alternate universe where the Colts have better health luck,

676
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: right and they're ten and three right now. Yeah, and

677
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, the seed and hosting playoff games and winning

678
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: the division but the other side of that and why

679
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: you don't see.

680
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: I think more quarterback stability. It'd be different if you

681
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: had Josh Allen and he's on a ten year contract

682
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: or whatever.

683
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: And who bring sauce in? Who cares? Because this window

684
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: is going to be wide open for the next guy.

685
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: I'm always going to elevate, right, They didn't have the

686
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: quarterback situation.

687
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: As much as I'm guilty of it too, like sometimes

688
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: sitting there and pulling my hair out and going, come on, Steelers,

689
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: why aren't you doing more? Why aren't you being more aggressive?

690
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: Why aren't you pushing more chips into the center of

691
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 2: the table. It's much easier to say that, and then

692
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: you see someone like the Colts get get absolutely burned here,

693
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: and even the Eagles. The Eagles pushed a lot of

694
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: chips into the center of the table at the deadline,

695
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: and they've gone backwards since then. There's exactly there's there's

696
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: no perfect way to do it, or else everybody would.

697
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean the theme with Steelers about to play did

698
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: it when they traded for Tyreek and Ramsey and they

699
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: went all in on a bunch of dudes and it

700
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: didn't go up.

701
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: They haven't even won a playoff. I've only been once,

702
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: I think, and haven't won a playoff game. Steelers checking

703
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: at fourteen, up six spots. I think it's about right. Fourteen.

704
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: I think it's about right. If you'd have him a

705
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: spot lower, I wouldn't fight you. If you have a

706
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: spot or two higher, I wouldn't fight you. But I

707
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: think this is about right. Yeah, here's gonna be fourteen

708
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: teams that make the playoffs.

709
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: It's the neighborhood right now.

710
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: If the playoffs started today, the Steelers would be in,

711
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: but they'd have the worst record of all the fourteen

712
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs. So I think that's about right.

713
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine with it.

714
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: They'd be the only seven win team, you know, and

715
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: there'd be a couple of six. Oh that's not true.

716
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, Tampa or Tampa as well. Eagles

717
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: checking at thirteen, down three spots.

718
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: The offense is troublesome, boy, is it ever? Yeah?

719
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: And the quarterback was very interceptions for Jalen Hurts plus

720
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: a fumble turnover. I mean they even had Saquon doing

721
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: more Saquon type things and it wasn't enough.

722
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Right, Saquon and aj Brown look like the last year

723
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: version of those guys, and it still wasn't enough. The

724
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: defense was great.

725
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of organizations that it seems like

726
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: even when the faces and the characters change, some underlying

727
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: themes are always there. And for Philadelphia, and you know what,

728
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I was on the inside for three years. It's it.

729
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: They are jeckal and hide like that. Everything is either

730
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: perfect on the up and up. We are one of

731
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: the best teams in the league. We got a really

732
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: good chance to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, or it's

733
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: this thing is an inch away from falling off the

734
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: face of the earth and Imploding's funny the last verstability there. Yeah,

735
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: there's never plateauing. It's either arrow way pointed through the

736
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: roof or arrow pointed down like the Tower.

737
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Of Terror extremes. And what's funny is the last two

738
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: years they saw both and one of them they won

739
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and one they lost, like their last

740
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: six games, got eliminated and got blown out right.

741
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Right right, And I'm leaning towards this one looking more

742
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three than twenty twenty four.

743
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: I tend to agree.

744
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Chargers up to twelve up three spots after me.

745
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: I guess they just beat Philly, and you could argue

746
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: that both of them are better than the Steelers. But

747
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're favorite against Miami or Dallas

748
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: or you know.

749
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: It's fair. Number eleven, this might be too low for me.

750
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: It's the Houston Texans.

751
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: Oh, they would be way higher. They'd be like fourth

752
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: for me. I think they're the best team in the AFC.

753
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: Their defense got.

754
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: Toy to rank them that way in a power rank. Yeah,

755
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: I think I think they beat Denver, New England right now.

756
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: They are the If you asked me if the Steelers

757
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: are playing a playoff game this weekend, and the team

758
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't want coming to Agrostar Stadium, I still

759
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: think Buffalo would be my answer, just because of Josh Allen.

760
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: But the Texans would probably be number two. Number ten

761
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions number ten on this list, but currently

762
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs that belong. Yeah, that's the NFC man.

763
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: Number nine is the Jacksonville Jaguars. I might have Detroit

764
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: and Houston ahead of them, but I don't hate. I

765
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: think this is about the right are area for Jacksonville.

766
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: At nine.

767
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: I've been comparing Jacksonville in Chicago a lot lately. New coach,

768
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: first overall quarterback.

769
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Little head of schedule.

770
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: You have not won much in the last ten years

771
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: or so, but the second half of the seasons was

772
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: a lot better than the first. They're starting to figure

773
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: things out.

774
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: They're still a little lobbly, but just make the playoffs

775
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: and everything to lose.

776
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: A playoff game, but getting the playoffs is still ahead

777
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: of schedule.

778
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: You know, get that experience for your and your coaching staff.

779
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: The quarterback number eight off the bye week, not moving

780
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: at all. The Niners. I think that's fine. Fine, yeah,

781
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: good bye week for them and Carolina at the right time.

782
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: The Bears dropped just one spot to seven after falling

783
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: to the Packers.

784
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, I don't know if the Bears are better

785
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: than the Lions, but they're in a better spot six.

786
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: Moving up these last couple of weeks the Buffalo Bills.

787
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: I suppose two nice wins in a row. I think

788
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: nice wins in a row.

789
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is doing some more Josh Allen things.

790
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: He looks like the best player in the league right now.

791
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: They can, you know, they can on the ball well.

792
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's still some concerns there that they've got

793
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: a lot of superheroes to offset those concerns. Number five

794
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers.

795
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm a believer.

796
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm a believer too. I think they're back in that

797
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: in that super Bowl conversation. Yeah, number four off there

798
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: bye week not doing any movement. Is the New England

799
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: Patriots ten straight wins into the bye week, Good time

800
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: to have it for them.

801
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: We could fight about New England versus Denver, but I

802
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: understand why they're the top two in the AOC. I

803
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: think Houston's better than both, but I know I'm on

804
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: a limb there.

805
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of form right now, but when you're

806
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: eleven and two, it's tough to argue against. And the

807
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: Broncos do check in at number three, not the you know,

808
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: most convincing performance, but crazy victory against the Raiders keeps

809
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: the Bronco Broncos at number three, and then actually no

810
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: change in the entire top five. Packers stay at five,

811
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Patriots at four, Broncos at three, Seahawks at two, and

812
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: Rams at one.

813
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah out of Rams one, Seattle too.

814
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: I think so I might even have the Packers out

815
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: of the Broncos and the Patriots. But I under again.

816
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean those are eleven win teams. I get it.

817
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: My top four would be Rams, Seahawks, Packers, Texans. I

818
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: know that's a little spicy at four. That's why I

819
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: went forty.

820
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: I completely agree with your top three. I don't know

821
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: who my fourth would be. I would consider the Texans.

822
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Eagles.

823
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: No, No. I might consider the Buffalo Bills then yeah,

824
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: but I get.

825
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: The Patriots and Broncos deserve respect. I mean the records

826
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: are strong, but I don't know if they're when.

827
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they still got a lot to proof.

828
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: They still go a lot to show me, right, I

829
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: mean there's not a lot of experience a quarterback between

830
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: those two teams.

831
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: They say, still got a lot a lot to proof.

832
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Let's get to our final break of the day here.

833
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll close down with some fantasy

834
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: football conversation here on the Drive, West Shouler, Matt Williamson.

835
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

836
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

837
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

838
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on a Tuesday, and

839
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: I gotta just be completely honest with everybody. Matt had

840
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: a dorito issue earlier in the show.

841
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, got me right in the right spot.

842
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: I've still got some peanut butter from my Race's cup

843
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: stuck to the roof of my mouth. You know, I

844
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: do love the Race's cup. That's the one downside that

845
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: peanut butter. That peanut butter can linger, which from the

846
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: taste palette is outstanding. Oh yeah, when you're supposed to

847
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: be hosting a radio show and coming back from commercial break.

848
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: Not the ideal choice, not as much, just a little

849
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: bit filling. The nice about the reci cup. You get

850
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of nourishment in there and a little

851
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: bit of like get you through the two hour show.

852
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: Oh no, doubt well. Pep in your step pairs really

853
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: well with coffee too, for whatever reason. Yeah, good with

854
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: the chocolate and the peanut butter combination. Coffee is a

855
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: is a good one, real quick, Matt AFC playoff percentages

856
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: just wanted to go over this with you. Broncos greater

857
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: than ninety nine percent, Patriots greater than ninety nine percent,

858
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: Jags ninety seven percent for Jacksonville.

859
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: Are we have like clinch week, like Miami and Denver

860
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: win away from getting that.

861
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: Check Markland and Denver. You mean, yeah, I believe, I

862
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: believe so yeah, Okay, yes, yes, Because if they both win,

863
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: they would be one hundred percent locks to make it.

864
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna start seeing clinches and you sure are.

865
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little Jags ninety seven percent chance to make it. Incredible.

866
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: I didn't quite see that coming. I thought they were

867
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: a five hundred tight team.

868
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Same same, Steelers sixty six percent chance. If they beat

869
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: Miami this Monday, it goes all the way up to

870
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: seventy four and even with a loss, they still have

871
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: a fifty seven percent chance.

872
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: And I don't think if they lose the Lions, like

873
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: if you play with those stimulators, I don't think it

874
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: hardly hurts them at all.

875
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Especially if they were to take care of business at

876
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: home on Monday.

877
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: Agains, I am right, right, right.

878
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: Chargers seventy six percent chance, huge win last night, huge

879
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: win last night. Bill's ninety six percent chance. I think

880
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: that makes sense if you look at their schedule the

881
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: rest of the way. It's not a cake walk, but

882
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: it's not incredibly done. They have the Patriots this weekend,

883
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: they have the Jets still and then yeah, they have

884
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: the Jets and maybe one other other one, the Styah difficult,

885
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: and then the Texans eighty seven percent.

886
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Matt.

887
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean a few weeks ago we were doing this

888
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: and they had like a twenty three percent chance to

889
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

890
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of myself. I put a couple of

891
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: bucks on they're going to represent the AFC in the

892
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and they were like twenty three percent chance

893
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 3: of making the playoffs.

894
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: Probably still get decent return on that, but not to

895
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: the same effect that you did a few right, right right.

896
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: That's and I'm not even sure they'd be my pick, but.

897
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: That's for sure.

898
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: I thought they could.

899
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: Colts just a thirty two percent chance to make the playoffs.

900
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: I'd take the under two say, I don't know how

901
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: much they account for the quarterback. I don't know how

902
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: the math would factor in if Daniel Jones was healthy.

903
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: Verse asking Philip Rivers to come out of retirement.

904
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Sure, Ravens just thirty three percent chance, Chiefs ten persons.

905
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: People haven't figured that out. Really, one is Steelers plus Ravens.

906
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: They make it ninety nine because there's still an outside chance.

907
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: The Bengals are technically not eliminated.

908
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers have two thirds of a chance. The Ravens

909
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: have a third of chance.

910
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: Makes sense, yeah, at this point, and it's it's pretty

911
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: cut and dry in the NFC. The Lions have a

912
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: fifty percent chance. That's better than I thought at making

913
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I wonder what all they need do they?

914
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: Is it?

915
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: They are the eight seed now, so they must need Yes,

916
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: I'm trying. Maybe they need the Bears to lose out

917
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: and they have a tough schedule.

918
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: You have to play the Rams this weekend.

919
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: Lins do yeah, and then they lose that game, they

920
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: they're probably down to like twenty five thirty percent.

921
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: If they lose, they're down to forty percent. If they win,

922
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: up to seventy two. But if they lose, down to

923
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: just forty.

924
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: Percent, winnable game for them.

925
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: What helps the Lions is they have that final Week

926
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: eighteen clash with the Bears. So as long as they

927
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: can stay within one game, they're gonna have a chance.

928
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: And the Bears could lose a few.

929
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: The Bears could could lose a few. Panthers twenty nine

930
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: percent chance, Wow, Bucks seventy one. I'm surprised that's I

931
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 2: don't think.

932
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: They've played each other yet. I still I still think

933
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: they have two out of three Carolina and Tampa. That's

934
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: how they do, and I think that's like that matters.

935
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh man, So they Bucks host the Falcons Thursday, Thursday

936
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Night Football. Then ah, Carolina, sorry buddies. They get the

937
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: arrest advantage for Carolina the next week.

938
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: And that's the one in Carolina. Yeah, which you'd want

939
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: for Tampa if you're for the one away, you'd rather

940
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: the rest advantage for that one.

941
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Uh. Then the then the Tampa goes to Miami

942
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: and which.

943
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: I don't think matters at all. I think it does

944
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: like zero effect on their chance AFC.

945
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and then Panthers that final.

946
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: So that final pretty fun.

947
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: The NFL is good at this stuff.

948
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: Man.

949
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: That final week, Steelers Ravens could be win and in

950
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: loser goes home Bears, pack or part of me Bears

951
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: lots could be winning in loser goes home, Panthers, Bucks

952
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: could be win and in loser goes home.

953
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 3: So if we go back a week, Packers Bears were

954
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: matched up for two out of three weeks, Yes, with

955
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: massive implications. Yes, Steelers Ravens are matched up for two

956
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: out of five weeks with massive implications and Panthers Bucks

957
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: are matched up two out of three weeks with all

958
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: everything on the lot. Like, I'm not even sure losing

959
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: Thursday Night to Atlanta even hurts them that bad. Like

960
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: if somebody sweeps, they win the division.

961
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: Like you and I have kind of laid this out, man,

962
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: the NFL has really figured out how to how to

963
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: capture everybody hook line and sinker. Yeah, week eighteen, those

964
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: games could all be you know, winners in loser goes home.

965
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: You'll also have la at Denver week eighteen, which could

966
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: have number one seed implications, which could have Chargers playoff

967
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: can implication.

968
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: I can't imagine anybody's resting in that game or anything

969
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 3: like that.

970
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Seattle,

971
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco could have could have playoff seating implications in

972
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: Week eighteen. Carolina, Tampa, bay Man, Indy and Houston could

973
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: be a could be a big one there as well.

974
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: There's Carolina Tampa. Thing's pretty fun though, to the last

975
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: three or against each other.

976
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeed, so that's kind of the uh cheating

977
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: up that that that's where we're at, you know, from

978
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: from that standpoint, Uh, Matt in lieu of because we

979
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: only have like two or three minutes here in lieu

980
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: of fantasy football conversation right now. I wanted to run

981
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: this by you Vegas odds odds on MVP favorites currently, Okay.

982
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I bet there's two ahead of everybody else.

983
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Number one is Matthew Stafford, May number two, May number two,

984
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Josh Allen number three, Jordan Love next tier, Dak Prescott

985
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: number five.

986
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Damn he can't win it.

987
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean just his team's not kid. But Matthew Stafford

988
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: is the bett favorite. Drake may isn't terribly far behind him,

989
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: and then Jordan Love and Josh Allen are a little

990
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: bit longer shots, but not.

991
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: Allen's covered on strong though.

992
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: And you know how this is. It's much like the

993
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy and some of these things. What you do

994
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: at the end of the the final quarter of the

995
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: season has weighted much more heavily than what you do

996
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: in September.

997
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: Snow games against Burrow, and he's a madman.

998
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody ever won an MVP in September. If that

999
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: would have been the case, it would have been Baker

1000
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: Mayfield or Daniel Jones. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, No

1001
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: one ever won a Heisman Trophy in September. It's what

1002
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: you do in those final three or four games. That's

1003
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 2: that is certainly much.

1004
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Wait, Miles Garrett's a defensive MVP by a mile. Yes,

1005
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: I don't even know who.

1006
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: You would want to get to that, huh, because you

1007
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: always like talking about you love Miles Garrett. There's TV

1008
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: all right, He's not too locked in to give us

1009
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: a smile over there. The way that Caleb Williams loves

1010
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: taking sacks is the way that Matt williamsons Miles Garrett.

1011
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: I've got more tweets about Matt Williamson and his love

1012
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: for Miles Garrett.

1013
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: I think that he stinks.

1014
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: Here's what Here's what NFL dot com has for Miles Garrett.

1015
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: Final verdict, no brainer for Defensive Player of the Year.

1016
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: That's where it ends.

1017
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: I wonder if he didn't play another game, if he

1018
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: wins it. I think the answer is probably yes. Twenty sacks.

1019
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 2: Twenty sacks. The record reminder that Strayhan and TJ share

1020
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: is twenty two and a half with so he needs

1021
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: three and four games to break it. Two and a

1022
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: half in four games.

1023
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: To tie it, pretty good chance of doing it. I

1024
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: wonder who too is. I mean even it doesn't even

1025
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: matter because they have no chance. Yeah, and I'm I

1026
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't even know if thought of my head.

1027
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't see here because they literally have

1028
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: they literally just have Miles Garrett listed no Brainer Defensive

1029
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. That's where it ends.

1030
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: That's that's where he's at, right.

1031
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: That's if it comes down to him, if he still

1032
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: doesn't have that record. When the when the Steelers roll

1033
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: in the Cleveland after Christmas, I want I want Darnell

1034
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Washington and Spencer Anderson on his side of the line

1035
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: of scrimmage every single play. Loaded up Baby.

1036
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: Ninety is active. Put wad in there to block them.

1037
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: DJ one Miles to break your records. Get out there

1038
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: and stop him.

1039
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: Bro right, hold them, drag him down, bite him whatever

1040
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: you do.

1041
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, Dan Campbell, bite some kneecaps, and let's get out

1042
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: of here with zero sacks for that guy. Fun show today.

1043
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Thanks to Chris Danski for joining us, Thanks to Nathan

1044
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 2: for producing. Big shout out as always to our video producer,

1045
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: TV mister Tyler V for keeping us handsome and crisp

1046
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: on the YouTube side of things. For Matt Williamson, I'm

1047
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: west Yuhler. Take care. Everybody will talk to you tomorrow.

1048
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: As always, you know where to find us. It's on

1049
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold.

1050
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