WEBVTT - AFC North Betting Guide: Coaching Changes, Division Winner & Win Totals (Ep. 718)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place

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<v Speaker 1>your bets. This me Joey p jop Zapia and this

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<v Speaker 1>is BP NFL Man. I've waited a long time to

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<v Speaker 1>say that. It's so good to be back here. As

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<v Speaker 1>we're kicking off our NFL shows preseason time, look at

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to the twenty twenty five slash twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season, and I'm here with my boys, My boys

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell Furman Junior and Andrew Erickson. Gang is all back together.

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels right and we're gonna be previewing all

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<v Speaker 1>the divisions. We're gonna start with the AFC North Division.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna look at the team win totals, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the future, look at the changes, break it all down

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<v Speaker 1>will be here and we're here to make some money

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And gentlemen, let's start with a division that

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of storylines. We have some some greatness

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<v Speaker 1>potentially in the Ravens, we have some revenge narrative with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals who just almost snuck in the back door

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And then of course we have the bottoming

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<v Speaker 1>out potential of the Cleveland Browns, not to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>side show that might be the Pittsburgh Steelers. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump in with two feet and let's get going here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with some of the changes in this division,

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to impact some of our wagers we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make. I let's start with as Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>returns or to the NFL, but as Andrew Erickson so

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<v Speaker 1>astutely put it, the biggest changes he's the new offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers. So Andrew Rickson, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to credit you with that line because you've said it

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<v Speaker 1>before the show started, and it's funny because it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So DK Metcalf is there, Caleb Johnson's there, Terrell Firman, junr.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is how many wins are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there with all this changeover and Aaron Rodgers bringing his oh,

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<v Speaker 1>his Aaron Rodgers ness over to Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>At least nine at least a winning record. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>very least that is going to be. I mean, is

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Kauf with it? Not Tom Caffe When I'm over

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<v Speaker 2>here in my Giants mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomlin, shake the dust off here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm over here. I'm over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminants too much w NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually watching the two thousand and seven Giants

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl run DVD once again. You know I always

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<v Speaker 2>thumb it in there every now and then.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you wearing as you watched it?

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<v Speaker 2>As I was wearing. I was wearing a white T

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<v Speaker 2>shirt with Giants Giants draws on, no pants, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had a tub of ice cream, and I I was

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<v Speaker 2>living out the Dolory days, living out the glory days.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Mike Tomlin here winning record, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about all the quarterbacks that he's done it with,

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<v Speaker 2>Duck Hodge's, Mason Rudolph, all those subpar guys. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about the Aaron Rodgers and why I love this

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<v Speaker 2>bet this year is because if I don't hit it

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<v Speaker 2>this year and it's Aaron Rodgers at the helm, I

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<v Speaker 2>get to have a life long amount of content that

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<v Speaker 2>I could say that Aaron Rodgers was the reason that

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Tomlin had his first non winning season. So for

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<v Speaker 2>that alone, the bet is good enough for me because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a win win. It's a win win at this

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<v Speaker 2>point bet because if I don't if I don't win,

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<v Speaker 2>I get to blame Aaron Rodgers because he's done it

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody. He's done it with absolutely no talent. And ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Aaron Rodgers is a psychopath, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he is so in his head that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go out like how he did with the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>like he wants some type of role of glory, some

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<v Speaker 2>type of blaze of glory or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I expect him to go out here and actually

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<v Speaker 2>play along with Mike Tomlin. He loves Mike C. Mike

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<v Speaker 2>C doesn't care for Aaron Rodgers, but he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>win games, and he says, oh, yeah, I can make

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<v Speaker 2>it work with Aaron Rodgers. So I trust Mike Tomlin

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<v Speaker 2>here to get it done. And then you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers. They're dogs in ten games this season, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm already feeling good. I got ten games

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, all right, that's that's a good chance

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<v Speaker 2>for ten wins right there, not to add the games

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<v Speaker 2>that the books actually think the Steelers can win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they could stumble on a nine to eight record and

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<v Speaker 2>it could not be that good. And Aaron Rodgers feels

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<v Speaker 2>really good about himself because he kept Mike Tomlin's winning

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<v Speaker 2>streak alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it feels like we never left because automatically, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to just pick apart some of the things you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. Terrell no talent. Ben Roethlisberger, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Hall of Fame. I'll love Big Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>but geez, I mean, he did have a quarterback that

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<v Speaker 1>played for a decade plus and got to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of Super Bowls and won a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not the point I was making.

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<v Speaker 1>But he got with no talent. He did it.

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<v Speaker 2>With no talent. He had Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges

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<v Speaker 2>for a season and had a winning record. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he did it with no talent. So whether he has

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<v Speaker 2>talent or no talent, he gets a winning record.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right. I do like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they're unders in a lot of games. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>for Week one. Everybody knows that I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, Steelers game, the Fields, Rogers game. That's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, Like I just I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that debaccle But in all seriousness, too, DK

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<v Speaker 1>Metcalf's there now ericson, You've also got a Cale Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft here to take over the Najie Harris

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<v Speaker 1>role in this backfield, and who knows, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more too. So what do you think of the Steelers'

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<v Speaker 1>off season before we start to look at the numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that if they kept Mason Rudolph

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<v Speaker 3>as the starting quarterback, would their win total have really

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<v Speaker 3>drastically altered that much? We talk about Mike tom and

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<v Speaker 3>he always finds a way to get eight to nine wins.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that the win totals were when they were created,

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<v Speaker 3>they were still baking in the idea that Rogers would

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<v Speaker 3>probably be the quarterback. When it's all said and done,

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<v Speaker 3>that end up being winning happening. But I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that it's going to be eight to nine wins kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like Trail laid out, that's what this team just

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<v Speaker 3>does every single tea.

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<v Speaker 1>He said minimum, I say maximum. See, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably more on the maximum side of things because I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't this offense to me is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>slow and they want to run the football, so not

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<v Speaker 3>super exciting. I think to they're going to light at

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<v Speaker 3>the scoreboard with points. No, they want to plague defense,

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<v Speaker 3>win in the fourth quarter, don't turn the ball over.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think it's going to be exciting. But

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<v Speaker 3>at the end they're going to be in the AFC

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<v Speaker 3>playoff hunt. They have a lot of divisional games down

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<v Speaker 3>the stretch and we'll see how things shake out against

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals to kind of break

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<v Speaker 3>down the rest of these teams. But for me, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that getting Rogers in there puts an adult at

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback position, which which is good for fantasy purposes

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm always looking at. I mean, it's he's still

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<v Speaker 3>better than Mason Rodoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Question mark on adult.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say adult might be down with the

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<v Speaker 1>best choice of words, but I mean, people were accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the Bengals here. They brought back to Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>that's huge. They did also make one adjustment here. They

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<v Speaker 1>got rid of lou and Oramo, who was well liked

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<v Speaker 1>for many years there in Cincinnati's the defensive coordinator, place

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<v Speaker 1>him with Al Golden and look, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>replace coordinators all you want. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>Eric didn't necessarily have the horses on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the football here to get the job done at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. But that's a good news

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<v Speaker 1>for the offense and fet fantasy and maybe for some

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<v Speaker 1>overs that we're looking at in the betting space. I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Golden is just being a terrible hand of a

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<v Speaker 3>team and defense that has no talent across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>And we can look at it and say, is this

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<v Speaker 3>worse than last year?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Trey Hendrickson, the guy who had all the sacks of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals last year, he may hold out. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if he's ever gonna play for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they decide, okay, well, we'll rebolster, we'll revamp

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure. In the NFL draft, We're gonna draft Shamar Stewart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all gonna be great. Shamar Stewart is rings unsigned

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<v Speaker 3>because they're putting in these certain contract clauses when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to suspensions, and they don't have their first round

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<v Speaker 3>pick on the team, and now he's being talked about

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<v Speaker 3>and discussed Oh, well, he's gonna re enter next year's

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<v Speaker 3>draft because he doesn't want to play with the Bengals either. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>this defense is still a mess, regardless of Al Golden

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<v Speaker 3>being an upgrade at defensive coordinator. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 3>the personnel is there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrelle, anything here you want to add about the off

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<v Speaker 1>season of the Bengals before we move on to the Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just the Bengals being the Bengals, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough. There's no reason, there's no reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>like this, Like, come on, guys, at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, yeah, literally, just be better, Like that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I have. Just be better. This is literally

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<v Speaker 2>the best person, arguably the best person on your team.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could make the argument because of his impact

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<v Speaker 2>to the defense. I mean they go from maybe being

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<v Speaker 2>able to do something to just completely bottoming out if

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<v Speaker 2>Trey Henderson is not there. And then you have Shamar

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<v Speaker 2>Stewart and this weird clause that no other rookie has,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're trying to implement it now. And he's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>why why am I got to be the scapegoat for this?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I got to be the first person? No, No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just Bengals doing the Bengals. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals defense was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really hard to be as bad as they

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<v Speaker 2>were last year. That's the only thing that's really good

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<v Speaker 2>for them, the fact that the defense was so bad

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<v Speaker 2>last year. That is really really really really really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to be just as bad. And honestly, I think all

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<v Speaker 2>of this is just a mute point because the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>are not starting the season without either one or two guys,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're doing all of this, dragging all of this out,

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<v Speaker 2>not having these guys through dough camps and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>just to eventually crack sign them both and then they

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<v Speaker 2>end up playing in football for the Bengals. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I think this is a non starter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna end up playing and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals are gonna be slightly better. But who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Cleveland, Joe Flacco returns, Shdors Sanders gets drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh was not the only rookie got drafted there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if we need to talk about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn John Judkins also drafted. I don't know, Uh, Terrell,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotta be tough to the Browns fan base has

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<v Speaker 1>been through it. They've just been through it, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to tell them it's gonna get better this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe if Shador Sanders plays well at some point and

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<v Speaker 1>gets the opportunity to play, things could be getting better

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<v Speaker 1>on the horizon. But that's a big ifs and coulds

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for the guy that has the jersey

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<v Speaker 2>that has all the QB names on the back because

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<v Speaker 2>that started for the Browns, because he's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>add four more names by the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel in there. Yea, yeah, well Flacco on again, Flacco

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<v Speaker 1>and all fairness has already been there. Well that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>only okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So so he only got three more names, So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not as bad as I thought. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>all three of those guys are gonna end up playing

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<v Speaker 2>snaps for some reason. I have no idea why they

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<v Speaker 2>drafted Dylan Gabriel. I don't know why they are playing

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<v Speaker 2>with Shador Sanders' name, Like, I think he's really really

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<v Speaker 2>good quarterback for Kevin Stefantasy's system of getting the ball

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<v Speaker 2>out quickly and hey, lean on the run game. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to ask too much of this guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to grow in the position. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems like this is another carryover year for

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns of we don't know what we're doing, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna take another year figure it out. Be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we win a couple of games, maybe we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this Brown team is completely unseerious, Like they're completely

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<v Speaker 2>unserious with quarterback position. And I'm just waiting for the

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<v Speaker 2>day that Stefanski swallows every out sopriet he has and

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<v Speaker 2>says Shador Sanders, you're the starting quarterback because you give

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<v Speaker 2>us the best chance to win games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it feels like Eric said that's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen at some point. I'm just you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think if it's a mind reader here to figure that out. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But what's your take on the Cleveland Browns? So this

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and earraw how it is going to impact them

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<v Speaker 1>this season before we start looking at win totals, And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say the futures for them, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's much of a future for them in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five making the playoffs. But I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, just did they become a more

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<v Speaker 1>competitive team potentially on the horizon Wi should or Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>or is it just like the rookie learning lumps kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that will be more competitive in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at Stefanski what he's done with the brown

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<v Speaker 3>since he arrived there as the head coach. This team

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<v Speaker 3>has won a lot of games. Now, the bottom really

0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.560
<v Speaker 3>fell out last year, but they're over the Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 3>It's over, like that era has finally ended. They're ready

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<v Speaker 3>to move on. So they don't have to take the questions,

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<v Speaker 3>is Deshaun Watson gonna be the quarterback anymore? We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>because they were purposely playing him even though he was

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<v Speaker 3>the worst quarterback, because the ownership was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to play Deshaun Watson. Well that's no longer

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<v Speaker 3>the case now, so Stefanski is in a position to, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can actually play the best quarterback. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>when it's all said and done, we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>Shirar Sanders suit up as the QB one for the

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland Browns. And again, this was guy wants viewed as

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<v Speaker 3>a top five quarterback this past year's draft, and I

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<v Speaker 3>fell to the fifth round for maybe not all on

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<v Speaker 3>field reasons. So I think that the Browns are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be better, and they were last year thick. Their

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<v Speaker 3>defense is still really good. They're also really injured last season,

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<v Speaker 3>so if they have better injury luck, they have some

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<v Speaker 3>good skill players. And I do like the Tommy Reese promotion.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was the tight ended pass game coach last season.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the new offensive coordinator, and he was in the

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<v Speaker 3>college ranks the offensive corner for Notre Dame. And we

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<v Speaker 3>saw Michael Mayer get used in a lot of really

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<v Speaker 3>unique ways during his time there. That's why he was

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<v Speaker 3>viewed as a top end tight end prospect coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that we're going to see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of David and Joku in this offense as the vocal point.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time good Yeah, well the last time and Joku

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<v Speaker 1>was good, it was Flacco, so that's also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe started looking at some of those in Djoku

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<v Speaker 1>season props for yardage, maybe take some of the overs there.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a way to approach it. Last but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not least the Baltimore Ravens, which looked to be

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<v Speaker 1>again in the class of this division, maybe the class

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<v Speaker 1>of the AFC two. I love the draft pick of

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<v Speaker 1>Malachi Starks Erickson. I think it was a deficit for

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<v Speaker 1>them last year. I mean, this is what they do

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<v Speaker 1>every year, right, they said the end of every draft,

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<v Speaker 1>in the round and they take the best player available

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<v Speaker 1>and they get better every year. They've got Lamar, They've

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<v Speaker 1>got Continuity, they got Derrick Henry signed to an extension.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish there was a little bit more in terms

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<v Speaker 1>really rocky opening to the season, was a touchdown machine

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<v Speaker 1>you got nine and a half at minus three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>on the over under nine and a half plus two sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the sweet spot here is the eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>You get thirteen and a half at some other books

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<v Speaker 1>too here where you're looking, but eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's sit with that one minus one ten over or under, Terrell,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the over here on the eleven and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really good about pushing it to thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I think is just pushing it just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit beyond where I want to. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to twelve and a half and get that too,

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<v Speaker 1>but to me, the eleven and a half at minus

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<v Speaker 1>one ten, you lock that in and barring a capis

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<v Speaker 1>traffic injury here with Lamar Jackson, I think the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>get this easily. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I mean it's gonna be a lot easier

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<v Speaker 2>with the news that just dropped while we're recording right

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<v Speaker 2>now of Jirelans, Alexander has signed with the Ravens, so

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<v Speaker 2>they keep him in a year six dollar deal. Breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Not what he was though t but right, I don't agree, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not what he was, but hey, when you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation that is not working out anymore, and sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>need to change the scenery to kind of wake things

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<v Speaker 1>up and get things going again. So you could say

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't look like himself anymore, but he could come

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<v Speaker 1>over here to Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>And look exactly like who he was. But the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day is Alexander's a really good corner and

0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.640
<v Speaker 2>they needed help in that secondary, and so I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good spot for the raven I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I like over eleven and a half. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it is only injury. They have to have injuries across

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<v Speaker 2>the ball here that just makes it so that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to this total. But anything else, I like

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<v Speaker 2>the run game still, I like the offense still. The

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<v Speaker 2>only question that I have for the Ravens is how

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<v Speaker 2>far can they make it in the playoffs because John

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<v Speaker 2>Harball is going to have to coach this team at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. He can't just lean on Lamar Jackson and

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<v Speaker 2>lean on this team being good to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get to a championship. So it's not the wins total

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm questioning the Ravens. It's what do they do

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<v Speaker 2>when they get into the playoffs. Can he coach this

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<v Speaker 2>team to get back to the mountaintop, because it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the issue right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can spoil alert more on that at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show, ericson Ravens win total, where's

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<v Speaker 1>your happy place?

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<v Speaker 3>I Am going to the under under eleven and a

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<v Speaker 3>half wins and so always guys. You guys kind of

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<v Speaker 3>previewed it talking about, well, only of injuries happen, it's

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<v Speaker 3>only injuries happened. Will the Ravens not get to twelve wins?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think injuries are going to hit this team

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<v Speaker 3>because last year they were the healthiest team in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this with the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty four. Fe the forty nine ers, they're

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<v Speaker 3>so healthy. What happened, Joe? We all know what happened

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<v Speaker 3>to the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it fell apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was such, you know, in a good

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<v Speaker 1>mood coming into this first big NFL show of the

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<v Speaker 1>year for us, and the Undertaker did not take long

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<v Speaker 1>to rise from the I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I'm just spitting out the facts. Just the process

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<v Speaker 3>it says that suggests you can't chase the team that

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<v Speaker 3>was the healthiest depressing team, and given the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a big number anyway, eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I when I was doing projections, going through game by

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<v Speaker 3>game every single game in the NFL season, I had

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<v Speaker 3>them projected for eleven wins. So I think the number

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<v Speaker 3>is right at eleven and a half. But just making

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<v Speaker 3>the best bet against health repeating, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. If you're going that route, then we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bengals win total, which you can get at

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a half, nine and a half, eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I have a feeling like, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>that the Ravers are going in one direct, that you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals might be going in another. Is that true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the over on the nine and a half

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<v Speaker 1>wins of them at minus one twenty. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be. But maybe you're pushing the eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half where you get plus two to fifty. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that where you're going ericson? Is that where you're leading me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I would take the over on the eleven and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. I think the best bet is over nine

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<v Speaker 3>and a half, just because at minus one twenty. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the safest you look at Burrow, what he's

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<v Speaker 3>shun three healthy seasons, averaging ten and a half wins

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.399
<v Speaker 3>per year. And Zach Taylor has already talked about with

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals, guys, we're not going to start slow this year,

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<v Speaker 3>like he's going to play his players in the preseason

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<v Speaker 3>like he hasn't done before because they're so sick of

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<v Speaker 3>starting every September oh and three looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they're going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Start with Patriots last year exactly, like they need to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid that. And I know everyone's going to be terrified

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.119
<v Speaker 3>in their survivor pools Bengals app rounds. Everyone's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>scared to take the Bengals because everyone knows they start

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<v Speaker 3>out really bad and it's a divisional game on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they'll still lose, but I'm a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>confident that they will win. And just based on burrow

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<v Speaker 3>sixty two percent career win rate over the last four seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>again that's up to ten and a half wins. And

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the projections, when I went through every game,

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<v Speaker 3>just based on the matchups, I thought the Bengals could

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<v Speaker 3>win thirteen games. So I'm going to take the over

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<v Speaker 3>over over over.

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<v Speaker 1>All, right, Terrell, I like the over the little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a smaller number. I just want to again that

0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>defense does scare me a little bit. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>a ten win team. Do I think they're twelve win team? Maybe?

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Because I do think they can just flat out out

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.959
<v Speaker 1>score some teams the way they're currently constructed, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get off to a terrible start from once,

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe that can also go that route. But where do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to land on this win total here it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the Bengals, Trell.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the over. I do. I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals are going to be able to get this done.

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<v Speaker 2>The only real issue that I have with the Bengals

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>is the defense. And it's crazy because the defense was

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.520
<v Speaker 2>so bad that I think that they're going to be better.

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And if they're going to be better, Joe Burrow is

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>probably going to go out there and try to put

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.760
<v Speaker 2>up thirty points the game every single night. So make

0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 2>sure that they're at least in this game. Days the

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.919
<v Speaker 2>defense may bottom out, other days the defense might be

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 2>respectable and they are able to get the win. I

0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 2>think that more often than not, they're gonna be able

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to get the win in those situations. And I mean,

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I already see the script for how this season's going.

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals just have to have one really solid season

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.679
<v Speaker 2>if they so happen to win the division as well.

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're they're giving away MVPs like participation trophies apparently,

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 2>So it just looks like that everything is aligning for

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 2>this to be the Joe Burrow MVP season because they're

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 2>ready to just give everybody MVPs. You haven't had one

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 2>MVP yet, Here you go, Josh. You haven't won MVP yet, Joe.

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Here you go, Joe. And so if they're gonna do that,

0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make sure that I bet on the

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.640
<v Speaker 2>same side as that. I think the reps are gonna

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>be in the pockets too. I like Bengals to go over.

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And I do like the Bengals for this season because again,

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.720
<v Speaker 2>they're giving away MVPs for free, so I think they're

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna make things happen so that Joe Burrow can get

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>his MVP. Finally.

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I missed this Cleveland brow In totals, there

0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:03.400
<v Speaker 1>we go three and a half, five and a half,

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.400
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half that's where the board is around here.

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.400
<v Speaker 1>This one has variance in it, Torell, so typically I'm

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not one that loves to approach it. I think the

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 1>under on the five and a half is actually kind

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of maybe the best position to be in. However, I

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>don't like the Jews at minus one fifty, so to me,

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just to stay away. Over at plus one twenty

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:24.879
<v Speaker 1>five is tempting, but I feel like it's going to

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be sweating this out at the end of

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the year for them to get to six wins personally,

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 1>so I just don't want to do it. So to me,

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>staying away from the Browns. Too much volatility, too many questions,

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>too many quarterbacks, just too much where do you go?

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want anything to do with them because

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to play George Sanders and that's the

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>best quarterback on the roster right now. And I feel

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 2>fairly strongly in saying that I think Joe, not Joe Burrow,

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacca, all these Joe's, Joe, Joe, Joe, can you like,

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 2>can we work taking home talk about this? There's a

0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 2>lot of Joe's, Like there are you know, average Joe,

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh the Citadel of Joe. Yeah, the Citadel of Joe's

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and that's just ridiculous. Year, Like, I can't I've been

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 2>doing this too long, and I'm saying Joe Jo Jo, Jojo.

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Either way, Joe Flacco is the one that I'm talking

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 2>about this time. And Joe Flacco two years ago got

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the Browns to a playoffs. But in those two years,

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco has looked horrible since he did not look

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 2>good last year for the Colts. And so I don't

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 2>think Joe Flacco is himself. I think he's a show

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>of himself and at some point they're gonna get fed

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<v Speaker 2>up with it, and then they're gonna go through the

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Pickett saga and they're gonna realize, Yeah, Knny Pickett

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>isn't this guy. They're gonna go through the Dylan Gabriel saga.

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>They're like, yeah, he's not this guy. Like it's so

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>clear that it's gonna be Shdor Sanders and that he's

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.399
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback for the system. But they're not gonna get

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 2>there until the end of the year, and it's gonna

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 2>be too late for the win total at that point.

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 2>So just I'll wait, I'll wait for an end season

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 2>wins total. If they get some type of brains about

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.400
<v Speaker 2>them and bring him on halfway through the year, then

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll be interested. But as of now, is under.

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Over under three and a half games. Should Sanders starts

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>for the Browns this year, it starts ericson.

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll take you over on three and a half games.

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh, you give the Browns so much credit.

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 3>They're not Why would probably get to pick who plays

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 3>quarterback this time? He doesn't have to play.

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about that, because I let that slot

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the first time you said it. Man, I just let's

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 2>just go ahead, because if nobody has said anything about

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Deshaun Watson not playing this year, I don't think anybody

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 2>has said anything.

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to play this year.

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Again, is December under Overhawn Watson three and a half

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 2>games played for the Browns. Under about gas or Sanders

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 2>as a starter.

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Deshaun Watson steps foot in that locker

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>room all year. I think it's done.

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I think if if that's true, then I would one hundred.

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I would probably be on and over because then that

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>would mean Sanders would get there more. But I don't

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>trust the Browns. I think just Sean Watson is walking

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>through that door at some point, I really really do,

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna be I think he's.

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Walking, he can try to get in.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they give a chase the Jamal Adams

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>remember that whe the guy kept trying to get in

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the door. He's like, damn, why is I guess they

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>cut me? So ericson speaking of overs and under the

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Browns win total, is there a happy place for you

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>with it, because there isn't one for me.

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I I like the value over five and a

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 3>half plus one twenty five. Stefanski doesn't get enough credit.

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Look again, last year it totally bottomed out.

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:35.959
<v Speaker 1>It was terrible.

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 3>But before last year he had never averaged fewer than

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 3>seven wins. Averaged nine wins per year before twenty twenty four.

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's playing in the AFC North, one of the

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 3>most highly competitive divisions in the AFC. So I think Stefanski, yes,

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 3>he has four quarterbacks to work with, but I think

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 3>he can get a couple wins here with this guy,

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>a couple wins here with this guy, and I think

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 3>that the defense is going to be really good. They

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.719
<v Speaker 3>got hit by a lot of injuries last year on

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 3>both sides of the football. So talking about fading the

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Ravens because of negative injury regression, I think the Browns

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 3>will be healthier on both offense and defense. I think

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna benefit them getting small wins. I just think

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 3>five and a half it's a really low number. And again,

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 3>if they do turn to Shadar at the end of

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 3>the year, well maybe that gives them a little bit

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 3>of a boost. Again, it seems like whenever the quarterback

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>play starts to go down, well they always have another

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 3>guy to go to be like all right, like this

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 3>guy's gonna lift the team this time. So I think

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe they'll get enough what is it the dead cat

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 3>bounces from changing through all of these quarterbacks, and I

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 3>think they can work out.

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>What I will say about Sador is he gets better

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>with time. And so I never thought Shador's rookie year

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>would be like the big breakout year where you see

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>it instantly, but as like the next year, the next year,

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:49.959
<v Speaker 2>as they could sinue to work with him, I think

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be really good man, and I.

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Think it could be a serviceable NFL uarterback at base Yeah, dude.

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Like it way better than what he was drafted at.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I think that that was the statement that they that

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:00.959
<v Speaker 2>they were trying to make way better than what he

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 2>was drafted at. And so my only question here is

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>are they gonna do it like cause you sent them.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>You sent the message already with the draft position. So

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>are is that it? It's overwashed? We all by gods,

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>by guys, let's evaluate the quarterback position for the quarterback position,

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 2>because it shouldn't be long until we see him hit

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the field if we're being honest, but if they are

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>very stuck in their head, as it seems, they don't

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Shador, he hasn't been practicing with

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 2>the ones any of Like you're literally you have a

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Lamborghini in the garage and it's just sitting there and

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you're driving this Toyota Camri around that's falling apart on

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>two legs because you're like, oh, I know, for a

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>fat it can get me from A to B. Yes

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it can, but it's gonna take you forever to get there.

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>No Lamborghini, she's Alexis at best. At best, he's a Lexis.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying maybe even an Audi. He is not

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a Lamborghini was a Lamborghini. Well, that's fine, good quick.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>My own money is sweet. I'm so waiting for myl But.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco, he's the best Lamborghini out there.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's different. Joe Flacco is more of a I

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know, he's more of like whatever, some sort of

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Toyota minivan I think. But the doors open with a

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>one click the Siena, that's what it is. It takes

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>all the kids to practice. Pittsburgh Steelers win total six

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and a half, eight and a half, ten and a half.

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what you have on the board. This

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>one for me. I gotta tell you Ericson I feel

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers, I look

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>at the schedule, in the fact that they have to

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>play the Ravens twice, play the India Division twice with

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, I don't know how they're going to do

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 1>in those games, honestly. I look in the fact they

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>have to play the NFC North this year. Those are

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>some tougher teams. I think they're gonna struggle there, I

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>really do. I actually like the under eight and a half.

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Just sitting at eight wins at minus one thirty. I

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's the personally my comfort zone. Where's yours When

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the steel.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Total, Yeah, I had them slightly leaned towards the under,

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 3>but this would probably be a shy away because it's

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 3>just gonna go down. It's gonna go down to week

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>to eighteen, and I just like don't feel like sweating

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 3>the season long bet for the Steelers because I think

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>when it's all said done, it's going to be right

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 3>around that eight to nine mark. So I think the

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>eight and a half line is sharp. I do think

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 3>that maybe this is a better live opportunity where their

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 3>schedule gets really like last year, we talked about it preseason.

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>The opening schedule they have like no divisional games, this

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 3>is gonna be a cakewalk, and it was a cakewalk,

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and then they've played the second half of the season

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 3>and it was, oh, this is a lot harder. The

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Steelers aren't really as good as we thought.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>They were.

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Similar this year after Week eleven for their six divisional

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 3>games down the stretch, they had to play both games

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>against the Ravens after Week eleven, whereas the start of

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the season, they have a lot of more favorable matchups.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Even though they're playing games on the road. So I

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 3>think that if you're looking to buy onto this year

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>is you probably want to buy them early where they're

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna win some games out of the gates. But I

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>think they're going to fade down the stretch like we

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 3>saw last year.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Terrell got with the Steelers win total. I can only

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>assume it's over twelve and a half for you or something, right.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I only need nine wins to get a

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 2>winning record. Here. We talk about this. We talk about

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>this every year. We talked about it last year, and

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a lot of optimism with the Justin Fields

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and the Russell Wilson thing, and they won ten games.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. Excuse me. I had nobody had more optimism

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>about Justin Fields than this guy right here, and I

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was right. They were four and two and then they

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>made a stupid decision.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>But I just want to six more games that they

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>needed to get over this win total. So regardless of

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>how you felt or in either quarterback and whether you

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>liked one didn't like the other, a lot of people

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>felt like that we had subpar quarterback play and they

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>still won ten games. TJ. Watt that is the person

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that matters here. If TJ. Watt plays games for the Steelers,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>they win games. I don't care about the quarterback position.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I've never cared about the quarterback position with the Steelers.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>If TJ. Watt plays games for them, they win games,

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>especially as a dog. And so yeah, I think think

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<v Speaker 2>that this is another spot where Tomlin just gets enough

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>out of the offense, gets what he needs out of

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the offense. They had the what the schedule releases and

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>who was it the Chargers that had the Steelers, and

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>what their game plan is every single year it's oh, rebuild,

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>oh go for the championship, and it all leads to

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, a subpar winning season. And that's what

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>they always do when I'm getting plus money for it.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>So yes, give me over eight and a half wins.

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>He get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do one more win, one more win here or there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Mike Tomlin becomes the Jeff Fisher who was

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<v Speaker 1>always seven and nine. Remember, it's like, you know, just win,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>win two more games a year. You're Mike Tomlin and

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you're a coach forever. You lose two more games a

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>year than you're supposed to, you're Jeff Fisher. Out of

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the NFL after seven and nine every year, all right,

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>division winner futures. Here we go the Ravens at minus

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>one forty to win the North in the AFC, the

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Bengals plus two twenty, the Steelers plus five hundred, and

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>forget the Cleveland Browns and plus thirty two hundred. So, Terrell,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>where do you want to go here? I think the

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Ravens at minus one forty, you're still a pretty good

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>investment on this board. With the US, I don't think

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>it's too heavy for me to go through. What do

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you think? Hmmm?

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the better values in the Bengals. Wow, it's

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>between the Bengals and the Ravens, and I just think

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>that it should be a lot closer than getting you know,

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>plus two thirty or whatever it is with the Banks.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's close because of the defense ericson.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>That's where I come. I think the Ravens defensively are

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just superior team and they can hang with the Bengals.

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Offense is so like the ceiling for the Bengals.

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>They always have these shootouts with the Bengals every year

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>where these totals go to sixty seventy points. So it's

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>not like they're not going to show up offensive.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>And last year they lost a lot of those shootouts,

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and so regression. Yeah, and so regressions to the meetings

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>to the means, I think they're gonna win them.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Bet the Ravens is just a bet on regression. Man,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna regress. So I'm with the Bengals too. I

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 3>think that their offense is just to offense wins divisions.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 3>They don't win championships, but they can win divisions. So

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with the this is Bengals.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>If the Bengals are thirteen wins and the Ravens have

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>twelve wins and it was just because the Bengals got

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>one extra win over them in the division, I wo'n't

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be surprised. Like I wouldn't be surprised.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I would also say, we always just want to say

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>one last thing so that we won. The Ravens play

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the Bills in Buffalo. Yeah, so what do you think

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 3>these lines look like? The Bengals beat up on the

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Browns Week one, the Ravens lose to Buffalo. Who's the

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>favorite to win the division after one week?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I agree. I think if you want the Ravens,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you wait a week. I think that's a very astute

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>observation there, when you're looking at the schedule. Are we

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>just here? The flip side is that if they beat

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bills, it's more like, Sayonara, it goes.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, what, we're assuming that the

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Bills and winning that game.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's more likely. Maybe I'm not the Browns.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not assuming it, but I mean that's the that's

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the gamble.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>You take a gambling show.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>This is a gambling show. So yeah, I think they

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>want to take that gamble. It's there for you. Week one. Ravens, uh,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at them, I'm looking at them as

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my favorite bet here as we get to our last

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>segment here, my favorite bet is to go on in

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>on the Ravens. I know ericson scare me a little

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>bit with the health, I get it, but you know what,

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think the continuity of this team is there.

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Forget the Chiefs this year, that's done. I don't think

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers are quite ready yet. I think this is

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the perfect time and the Bills are the Bills. The

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Bills always find a way to lose the big games

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>because the Bills stop doing this to yourself, everybody. So

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens, this is your year, this year, opportunity. The

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>one thing that can stop them. The phone call is

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>coming from inside the house and it is the Bengals

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure, and that does scare me the most. But

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I'm gonna look at the Ravens.

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>To win the AFC A plus three forty and to

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the Super Bowl and win plus seven hundred,

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>some pretty good numbers on a team that has a

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of good continuity, can run the football, can play defense.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I think this might be the year of the Baltimore

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Ravens to get there and win the Super Bowl. All right, Ericson,

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>give me your favorite bet here when it comes to

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the AFC North.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 3>My best bet, I'm going to go with the CINCINNTI

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Bengals over nine and a half wins. I think the

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 3>offense is just too good. You want you want my

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>wildcar bet too? We're doing those, yeah one at all.

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Right, let's go, let's do it.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 3>My wildcard bet is Joe Burrow MVP plus six point fifty.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I was on this last year and the numbers were there,

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>it's just the wins. The wins were not there for

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow. But the fact that I was still able

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 3>to cash out of a ticket that was totally dead

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 3>just gives me a reason to believe that voters want

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow to win MVP at some point. And we

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 3>saw last year, we saw some of the trends break.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes had the AFC number one seed, didn't win MVP.

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>You had Josh Allen a MVP despite Lamar Jackson having

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I think better counting stats overall.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So first tag, if it's.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 3>A narrative driven award, then I think the voters might

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 3>decide after November December when Joe Burrow plays Baltimore, Buffalo, Baltimore.

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 3>The Bengals win all those games. Okay, let's make Joe

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Burrow our MVP. So I think the narrative is there

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:54.439
<v Speaker 3>for him to win it, and I like the odds

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 3>at plus six to fifty.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I believe in Joe Burrow. I believe in Joe Hendry.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Just to add another Joe into this mix for Torell

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to confuse him. Terrell, give us your favorite bets and

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>your wild card here for the AFC.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Joe Testar is gonna win MVP as well. Oh, wait,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean Joe Burrow. I think as well, it's a

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of Joe's man. You get you get confused, and

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you just be throwing Joe out come back. But yeah,

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that last year showed me that the MVP

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is a participation trophy. And so yeah, now now it's

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>it's Joe Burrow's turn to go ahead and get one.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 2>So that makes me concerned about the Ravens that there

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>could be some debakery there and maybe this is the

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Bengals year. So I'm just gonna go with the easy

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>bet that's on the board. I don't know why, you guys,

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>over eight and a half wins for the Steelers. It

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>cashes every single time. Every time it cashes, it does,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's plus money every time. Because everybody talks themselves

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 2>into all these different narratives of how the Steelers are

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>not going to have a winning record when Mike Tomlin

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>is just a good coach and they still have TJ. Watt.

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>If TJ. Watt gets hurt, then okay, I'll backtrack and

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, you know what, all right, the Steelers

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 2>might I got it this year, but CJ. Watt's still

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 2>playing there, and he played a lot of games last year.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's holding out tea contract, he's not actually there,

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>he pays.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's just go ahead of stamp in this. Now he's

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a contract and he's gonna be playing before

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the year.

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>What happens to the guys when they hold out? To you,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have a holdout, They miss camp, they have

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the soft tissue injuries, next thing, you know, it's a

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a toughy. I'm just saying that is a very

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>common has been through holdouts.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 2>He's been through Duck Hodges. And I bring that up

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>because Duck Hodges was a really, really bad quarterback. Everyone's

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>been shree Jones. He's been through all of these situations

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and he wintle comes out on the top every single time.

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Winter comes for us. All, all right, it's gonna happen

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to him.

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I am swimming through the winner in a boatload of

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 2>cash of all the scalers wins totals from every single year.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 2>So you know what, I'll be cool if it doesn't

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>cash one year, but still taking it plus money.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm worse. And you get the narrative, Aaron Rodgers

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>being the one who blows it. Look I'd love to

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hear from you. What do you think? What are your predictions?

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