1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: New King Ridge is in studio with us. He's got 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: a new book out just this week. It's called Collusion, 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: ripped right out of the headlines of Today. Crazy creepy, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Uncle John. I have to tell you this was to 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: me a real revelation. It shouldn't have been, after all 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: this is, but it was. So I watched the Anita 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Hill Partner and it didn't sound right. So I went 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: back and googled because I remember this and I'm very 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: fond of Clarence Thomas, and I went back when the 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: hearing was over. By fifty eight to twenty six, the 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: American people believed Justice Thomas and did not believe Anita Hill. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: And what I realized was what the left does. And 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: then they're trying to do it with Charlottesville. They did 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: it with Communist in the government. What the left does 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: is they take something, and they decided that they were 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: going to make Anita Hill of heroin. And so now 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: we come to a point thirty years later where he 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: can't even tell the truth. The truth is he said 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: arl Inspector, and arlan Spector wrote it in his memoir. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: He thought Anita Hill was lying, but Biden couldn't say that, 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: not in stay in the race. Well so, but the 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: point is, yeah, but he has a whole history here. Oh, 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't know if you've seen the 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: latest things, which these things are so good? Which one? 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: And I gotta tall you three quick things if you 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: let me one. They just reported that he voted to 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: make Roberty Lee give him back his citizenship. Right, Well, 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: if you think about how the left response, okay, when that, 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: when that goes out across, it's going to be too good. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: He co sponsored with Jesse Helms, an amendment to stop busting. Oh, 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: this was in the seventies. We've we've gone back and 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: researched all that. Uh. He was in one position that 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: he said no, no, no, we don't want to have 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: forced integration. In his comments about reparations, we're pretty outrageous. Also, 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: so here here's the analogy I draw and I wrote 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: a newsletter about this. Kate Smith did three thousand recordings. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Her most famous was God Bless America, which was written 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: for her. She spent two decades visiting American troops around 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the world. Two of the recordings, in nineteen thirty one 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: had language that was racist, one of which was actually 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: sung by a black artist, but it's no longer appropriate. 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: So they took down her statue from front of the 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Flyers stadium. They've taken Neither the Yankees nor the Flyers 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: will use her voice anymore. They'll use a different version. 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: And my point simple, He's going to have so many 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Kate Smith moments in his career that by the time 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: they get done with him, it's going to be just 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: an embarrassment. I think by the time I get done 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: with them, because it's not going to be a lot 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: of people, he will get a pass. Do you remember, 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this a lot. It was Obama, 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: oh seven oh eight yep. And I was driving you know, 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: Frank Marshall Davis and a Lynskey and Acorn and Reverend 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Wright and Bernardine Dorne and Airs and you know what 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: is a community organizer? And you know, white folks greed 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: runs a world in need. I had Obama on his 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: own reading his own book saying that, and all I 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: was pointing out as his background showed a rigid radical ideologue. 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: What do you call black liberation theology? He stated in 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: the pews of Reverend Right twenty years What did he 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: hear in those pews, and we went over all of it, 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: and for some reason, I think you thought I was 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: doing it was too much. I was going overboard. I 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: have said over and over since then, you were the 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: only person who actually understood the core radicalism of Obama. 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, of all the people I dealt with a year, 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: you were the only person. And you did it no 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: matter if everybody else ignored you, and you didn't care. 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: You kept coming back and coming back and coming back. 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: What have I been doing for two years on this 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: whole fake phony Russia collusion story. Is there anyone else 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: in the media, you know, except obviously talk radio, Rush, Mark, 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Laura Tucker and Fox and Friends. Who else is there? Well? 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: And Ip? And that's why I think you have these 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: two alternative realities. But the problem for Biden is the 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: things that he did wrong are the things that drive 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the left crazy. I mean, if you did things wrong 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the drive you and me crazy, wouldn't he could still 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: be the nominee? He said, Obama will Wow, this is 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: a storybook man. He's clean and articulate, and fer who 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: is articulate and bright? Clean? I mean, that's a story book, articulate, 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: bright and clean. Is African American. That's a storybook man, 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Like what, Yeah, I'm like, oh, but but the thing 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: you remember about Biden is he's he has a very 85 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: pleasant personality, but not particularly deep in the brain behind it. 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: And so you're saying, all of the does it matter? 87 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: Will it matter the record of Obama Biden for eight years? Oh? 88 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it's going to matter, in part because of 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the Muller Report. I think that'll matter. It should matter. 90 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if the first question that needs to be 91 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: asked of Joe Biden is did you know any of this? 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: And if you didn't know, what does that say about 93 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: your role in the administration. By the time we get 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: to the bottom of all this, it's right at the 95 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: top and there's no stopping what's coming. And people say 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: to me, why can't we have it now? Because that's 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: not the way the process it's going to keep draw. 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: You know, the other night when you did the interview 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: with the President, which I thought was pretty amazing. Frankly, 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I think he loves doing it on the phone. I 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: think he's sitting his feeder up and he's having a time. 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: I think he is an unusual character and he's an 103 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: effective president, but he is an unusual character. Oh. My 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: staff asked, well, how long is he gonna be on? 105 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: And I said, well, he could go the rest of 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: the show, or he could go five or ten minutes. 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: It's up there. That's exactly. I have no idea. But 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: he said something which drove the left crazy when he 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: talked about this was an at ten did coup? It was, 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. I mean, we need to 111 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: be honest about this. You had people in the United 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: States so offended by the notion that Donald Trump could 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: beat Hillary Clinton, that there were bureaucrats in the US 114 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: government methodically, including I think up to the president, methodically 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: doing things designed to undermine the next president of States. 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: That is a coup by any reasonable standard. How does 117 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: this play out for the election? And what do you 118 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna If you had to pick the top front runners, 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Biden probably has to be one. Do you look at 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: Robert Francis Spado? Do you look at Elizabeth Warren? Do 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: you look at Bernie Who do you like? Who do 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: you think of Urgess? I don't I don't know. I 123 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: mean I thought that question. You have to say, where 124 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats? How crazy are they going to be? Well? 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought I thought, originally Kamala Harris had 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: the best shot. Not anymore, not anymore. I think that's right. 127 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: But but she was. She kind of fit where they are. Um, 128 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I look, I think this is this. You're gonna say 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm crazy, and I maybe, but I think better gig 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: if I've said that, right, Buddha Judge, Buddha Judge, I 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: gotta learn say this. I think Buddha Judge may have 132 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: as good an opportunity as anybody. Really. From the standpoint, 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the two front runners are older people at a time 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: when the Democratic Party's energy is younger. One of the 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: two front runners is sort of vaguely immoderate at a 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: time when the Democratic Party is moving hard to the left. 137 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: The other one is nuts. I mean, I don't know 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: if you saw it. You know. My theory this whole 139 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: thing is that they're going to become the fifteen percent party. 140 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: And if you look at it, the idea that you 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: should allow violent criminals to vote while they're in prison 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: is a fifteen percent issue, okay, And you go to 143 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: killing babies after they're born, that's a fifteen percent issue. 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: That's two percent issue. No, No, it's about fifteen is it? Really, Yes, 145 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: it's scary. It is scary. Then you get to the 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: New Green Deal, the New Green Deal, when you understand 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: it is like a fifteen percent issue. Taking away your 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: right to buy life, to buy insurance is a fifteen percentage. 149 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you get down this whole list of things, 150 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: and he's sending me realize, these people are running as 151 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: fast as they can into a into a blind canyon 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: where they could as Biden's try and separate himself from 153 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: that group or no. I mean, if you watched him 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: on the View Friday, what he what he did is 155 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: he tried to appease everybody, everybody. I mean, Biden's natural 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: instinct is to appease everybody and to be sort of 157 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: a hugg In fact, one of these hes at tax 158 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: for is he kind of a huggy bear. But but 159 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: that but psychologically he is an huggy bear. Is that? Who? Who? 160 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Objectively in your mind? You know politics, this has been 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: your sport and study for all these years, and you're 162 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a historian who has the best shot and beating Trump 163 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: booda judge. Really yeah, think about it. He does. He 164 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. He's he's like he's exactly like Jimmy Carter. Carter. 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: Carter's great strength in nineteen seventy six was everybody could 166 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: project onto him whatever they want. Yeah, that makes sense, 167 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: all right, And you think that he's gonna emerge from 168 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: the pack. I think he could. Now. Of course, they're 169 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: then going to ask questions like how come your city 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: has not been prosperous and how come you have all 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: the problems with African Americans in your city? And I mean, 172 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: this is a business where the higher you get, the 173 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: hotter it gets. Yeah, I think I've noticed in your 174 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: life and career. And Buddha Judge, by the way, is 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: gonna he's coming to New York to meet with Al Sharpton. 176 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Apparently they have a specific topic, according to ABC News, 177 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: to discuss homophobia. Now we have now everyone's kissing Sharpton's ring, 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: and but he's got to discuss reparation. How can he 179 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: go see Sharpton and not make a pledge in reparation. Well, 180 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: let's play the highlights of Sharpton so we know exactly. 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I only have two minutes. Let me these are the 182 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: highlights of Sharpton. Okay, all right, come tried, America. You 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: ain't come on, do something because you'd uh, that's the 184 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: guy that they all want to support them. This is 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. This is gonna be fascinating to watch. 186 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: So everyone wants to kiss up to Al Sharpton. We 187 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: played the montage in the last break, all right, does 188 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: that fly? I mean, that's okay, But Sharpton in the 189 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: end is gonna mean reparations. Reparations in the end is insanity. 190 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: It's not possible. Do you see any of these Green 191 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: New Deal proposals being taken by the American people in 192 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: this sense socialism m here, We're gonna take care of everything. 193 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: You don't have a worry of fear in the world. 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna take care of your health care, your school, 195 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: your education, your ment. This is going to be a 196 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: race between a total fantasy that is obviously unsustainable and 197 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: the hard work of creating a prosperous country. And you're 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: going to have Trump representing hard work, and you're going 199 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: to have whoever ends up as a Democratic nominee representing 200 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: just a total fantasy. And it reminds me of two 201 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: great providential reelections, Nixon over McGovern It's gonna be great. Well, 202 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the first step that is trying out exactly what happened, 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: and we're trying to get our arms around that, getting 204 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: all the relevant information from the various agencies, and starting 205 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: to talk to some of the people that have information. 206 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: You know. The thing that's interesting about this is that 207 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: this was handled at a very senior level of these departments. 208 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't handled in the ordinary way that investigations or 209 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: counterintelligence activities are conducted. It was sort of an ad 210 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: hoc small group, and most of these people are no 211 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: longer if the FBI, or the CIA or the other 212 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: agencies involved, this appears to run deep. Why is it 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: so hard to figure out? Well, there are two things here. One, 214 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: no one's really looked at it. I think there's a 215 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: misconception out there that we know a lot about what happened. 216 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is Bob Muller did not 217 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: look at the government's activities. He was looking at the 218 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: whether or not the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians, 219 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: but he was not going back and looking at the 220 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: counterintelligence program. And we have a number of investigations underway 221 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: that touch upon it, the main one being the Office 222 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: of Inspector General that's looking at the FISA warrants. But 223 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, no one has really looked 224 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: across the whole waterfront. You also said back in April 225 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: that you thought there spying going on in the Trump campaign. 226 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: When do you think that started. Well, I'm not going 227 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: to speculate about when it started. We're going to find 228 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: out when it started. It's been said that it was 229 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: July of twenty sixteen. Does that sound right to you? Again, 230 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate. What I will say is 231 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: that you know, I've been trying to get answers to questions, 232 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: and I found that a lot of the answers have 233 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: been inadequate. And I've also found that some of the 234 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: explanations I've gotten don't hang together. So in a sense, 235 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: I have more questions today than I did when I 236 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: first start. Some of what things don't hang together, some 237 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: of the explanations of what occurred. Why does that matter? Well, 238 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: because I think people have to find out what the 239 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: government was doing during that period if we're if we're 240 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: worried about foreign influence for the very same reason, we 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: should be worried about whether government officials abuse their power 242 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: and put their thumb on the scale. And so I'm 243 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: not saying that happened, But I'm saying that we have 244 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: to look at that, all right. A phenomenal interview with 245 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: Bill Barb but my friend Bill Hammer and la Fox 246 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: News Channel that aired this morning. We actually had a 247 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: portion of it last night on Hannity Hour two Sean 248 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean is 249 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: our number. You want to be a part of the program. 250 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: The Attorney General said a lot here that he is 251 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: investigating what role the Steel dossier played in the Russia probe, 252 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: and the sealastious document at a number of clear mistakes, 253 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: and it is a very unusual situation to have opposition 254 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: research like that, especially one that on its face had 255 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: a number of clear mistakes and really basically saying zero 256 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: vetting what I've been saying that it hasn't been verified, 257 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: it hasn't been corroborated, and to use that conduct counterintelligence 258 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: against an American political campaign is a would be a 259 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: strange development. And the thing is is these are not 260 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: even issues in dispute anymore. This dossier was used as 261 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: the bulk of information for the FISA applications that were 262 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: used to spy, and there were multiple ways that spying 263 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: was done on the Trump campaign, but to spy on 264 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: an opposition party campaign, and it was paid for by 265 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: the other candidate. And it turns out through funneled money 266 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: from a law firm to a op research firm to 267 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: former m I six officer Steel Christopher Steel Rather, who 268 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: himself doesn't stand by his own dassier anyway, here to 269 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: help analyze what it is that the Attorney general is saying. 270 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, author of the Russia Hoax, 271 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: and Alan Dershowitz, Harvard professor who contributed to analysis on 272 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: the Muller Report for Skyhorse Publishing, thank you both for 273 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: being with us. Professor, why don't we start with you, 274 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: because I number one, I sense a seriousness in this 275 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: man and a passion for the law. I can't believe 276 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: that members on the House Judiciary many are literally demanding 277 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: he break the law and revealed grandeury information and talking 278 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: about putting handcuffs on him by the Sergeant of Arms, 279 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: and he's saying, I'm not going to break the law. Well, 280 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right, and he's acting in the highest tradition 281 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: of attorneys general in the Justice Department. He says, I 282 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: will obey the law and Congress has no authority to 283 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: make me violate the law by providing secret grand jury 284 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: material without court authorization. And you know, court authorization here 285 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: is critical, is critical to the Steel dossier, and it's 286 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: critical to this issue. The big problem with the Steal 287 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: dossier is not only that it is deeply flawed. It's 288 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that the people who sought the warrants knew it was 289 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: deeply flawed and failed to tell the Fiser Court about it. 290 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: It's the failure to disclose to the Fiser Court what 291 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: they knew about the source of the Steal dossier that 292 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: makes it to a very very serious violation of civil 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: liberties and something that the FISA Court should be extremely 294 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: concerned about. We're all waiting, obviously. It seems to me, though, 295 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, we've had revelations Greg Jarrett in the last week, 296 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: well actually over the last number of weeks that are 297 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: stunning to me. One Bruce or closed door testimony said 298 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: he warned everybody Hillary paid for the dossier. It's unverified. 299 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Steel hates Donald Trump. And that was in August to 300 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Now we learned that in fact, a State 301 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: Department official had had literally met with Steel this Kathleen 302 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Cavalac and in fact warned the FBI ten days prior 303 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: to the first FISA application being filed and signed by 304 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Jim Comey, who which again at the top of the 305 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: FISE application it says verified it's an unverifiable document of 306 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: its author doesn't stand by it. And also Jim Comey 307 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: in January twenty seventeen went to Trump Tower and said, yeah, 308 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: this this dossier. It's salacious and unverified. So you know, 309 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: I think he's in a whole heap of trouble over this. Oh. Absolutely, 310 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: all of people who affix their signature is verifying for 311 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: its authenticity and its truthfulness. When they knew it wasn't 312 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: are in legal jeopardy. That You have to understand that 313 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: for them, the dossier was their holy grail. It would 314 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: deliver them from Trump. But now documents have emerged in 315 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: Kathleen Cavalax is just one of them that proved it 316 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: was really just a hoax. The FBI took this phony 317 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: political document, it was funded by the Clinton campaign and 318 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the DNC, and they effectively weaponized it to destroy Trump, 319 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: to surveil on an associate of his campaign, to gather 320 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: incriminating evidence that didn't exist, and now they've been caught 321 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: red handed. So it's extremely important that a US attorney 322 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: by the name of John Durham, we'll get to the 323 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: bottom of this. He has the power to do with 324 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: the Inspector General doesn't have the power to do, and 325 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: that is to compel testimony to present it to a 326 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: grand jury for potential indictments. Well, the horrow exactly right. Yeah, 327 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And it's so important because you know, 328 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and 329 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: these folks believed that getting rid of Donald Trump was 330 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: the highest interests of the United States. And when you 331 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: have people with that kind of zealotry, that's when the 332 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: greatest violations of civil liberties occur, whether it's on the 333 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: right or the left. When you have zealots who are 334 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: convinced that they have truth on their side with the capitalty, 335 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: and it's only they who can prevent disaster from happening 336 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: to this country, they will do anything because they believe 337 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: that the ends justify the means. And here we have 338 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: just a perfect example of zealots who were convinced that 339 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: would be a disaster to allow the voters in the 340 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Electoral College to determine who the president was, and so 341 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: they were going to essentially pull off a coup to 342 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: make sure that the quote right result in their view occurred. 343 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: And whether you are a liberal or a conservative, or 344 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: a Democrat or a Republican, you have to be concerned 345 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: with that approach, especially when it comes from law enforcement. 346 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm very happy that this is all coming out. 347 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: As a liberal Democrat, I'm very happy this is coming out. 348 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: Whether it hurts the Democrats or helps the Democrats, that's 349 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: a short term issue. The long term issue is the 350 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: rule of law involved the Constitution. And I know this 351 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: gets a little sensitive, and I think you think I'm 352 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: being political professor, but I'm not. I do believe that 353 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: the law eighteen Usc. Seven ninety three on the Espionage 354 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Act is clear, and we do know that there were 355 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: top secret and classified documents on Hillary's private server, and 356 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: the subpoenas that were deleted, the Bleach bit, the hammers 357 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: to devices, and the SIM cards being removed. That would 358 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: be intent and obstruction, the intent obviously being to destroy evidence. 359 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: That's not political to me, you get. I'm happy to 360 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: be investigated. I'm happy to see everything investigated. Lets the 361 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: shifts fall where they may make sure that the law 362 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: is equally applicable to Democrats and republic agree. There's no 363 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: thumb on the scale of justice. That's not we agree. 364 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: We agree, and Greg, but I think you're more convinced 365 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: as I am. Oh, I absolutely am. As I point 366 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: out of the book, there there are seven potential felonies 367 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton committed, and some of them she committed. 368 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: In the case of the statue you pointed out seven 369 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: ninety three, one hundred and ten times. You see, there 370 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: are one hundred and ten classified documents that Comey found 371 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: that we're on our private server. So that alone would 372 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: would render arguably one hundred and ten felony counsel on 373 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: a single statute. So you know this, nobody's above the law. 374 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get a get out of jail 375 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: free car just because you're running for president in the 376 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: United States, and O g it's all over and you know, 377 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: let bygones be bygones, which was Trump's mistake after the election. 378 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think this needs to be 379 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: investigated thoroughly, and I hope it will be. I get 380 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, I guess at this point, and I'll go 381 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: to Professor dersha it's first on this. I don't see 382 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: how those people I look at this, they had It's 383 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: all premeditated. To me. If you're warned about the dossier, 384 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: you purposely hide the where it came from. They didn't 385 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: put a big Hillary Clinton paid for this, and they 386 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: knew it, and they're active. They're testifying in that application 387 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: that it is verified and corroborated, and it's not. And 388 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: they do it because of a political agenda, and we 389 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: the people involved, had a political agenda against Donald Trump. 390 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: In this particular case, you're talking about really an attempted 391 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: coup against the president of the United States or a 392 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: candidate at first, then a president elect, then a president 393 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: am I and you're stating that no, I think you're 394 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: also talking about a fraud on the court. And it's 395 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: so important to emphasize that the FISA Court takes its 396 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: applications x party. That is, there's no adversarial system, so 397 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: the other side never has a chance to respond. That's 398 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: why people who file applications for fier warrants have a 399 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: special obligation, a special obligation more than they would at 400 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: a trial, more than they would in other proceedings where 401 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: the other side has a chance to respond, to be 402 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: completely candid, completely thorough, to tell not only the truth, 403 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: but the whole truth, and never to deny the court 404 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: negative information that might impact on a decision not to 405 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: grant the war. That's what's so important and why this 406 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: is such a violation of civil liberties and why it's 407 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: important for the attorney generally in general to look very 408 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: very hard on this, and also for the fives a 409 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: court to look very very hard on this and perhaps 410 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: think about some contemporaries views well. I mean, Greg, I mean, 411 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: how many felonies could we possibly be talking about here, well, 412 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: fought on the court. Conspiracy to defraud, deprivation of rights 413 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: under color of law, could be you know, perjury. I 414 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: mean they sign their names to this or at the 415 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: very least, you know, making a faulty, misleading statement. It's 416 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: also obstruction of justice. They're actively interfering in a judicial 417 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: process by concealing evidence and deceiving the judges. So I 418 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: identify six selonies in my book. There could be more, 419 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: but these are very as Professor dersu Its points out, 420 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: these are these are very very serious violations. It is 421 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: almost comical now that James Baker, the former General Counsel 422 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: of the FBI, is out there trying to rationalize what 423 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: are to me corrupt acts. And I don't think anybody's 424 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: buying it. I mean, especially since none of these guys 425 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: can seem to get their story straight. Either're pointing the 426 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: finger of blaming each other. Comee and Clapper and Brennan. 427 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: But you know, as I use than that you've got, 428 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: then you've got struck in page pointing right at Loretta 429 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Lynch saying she break that investigation. So you're saying nobody's yeah, 430 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: but you're saying nobody's buying this. People are buying it 431 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: because people have taken partisan views of this, and if 432 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the goal was to get Trump, then everything goes. Then 433 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: we don't care, We're not interested in civil liberties or 434 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: what happened. And so people are buying it. And I 435 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: think it's very important to keep emphasizing how the court 436 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: was misled and how they fail to provide all the 437 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: information necessary for the court to make the kind of 438 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: decision is supposed to make on a next party basis. 439 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Greg what's your response to that, Yeah, you know, the 440 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: Professor's right. The mainstream media seems to be buying what 441 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: James Baker is pedaling. Democrats are certainly buying it, but 442 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: I don't think that a judge would buy it. The 443 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: FISA Court would buy it, and I don't think an 444 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Inspector General has bought it. And I think he's probably 445 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: finished his investigation, and when John Durham reviews it, I'm 446 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: completely confident he ain't going to buy it. So I 447 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: think there will be criminal referrals. All right, I want 448 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: to thank you both for being with us. Professor Dershowitz, 449 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg Jarrett. Thank you Greg. You're gonna stay 450 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: with us as VOE continue and talk about the Russian 451 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: intel operations expert. We're going to talk with Scott Jullinger, 452 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: who's going to join us next as we continue, and 453 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: much more straight up, how do you think John Brennan 454 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: and James Clapper handled the Russian investigation? Well, again, I 455 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: don't want to speculate about the facts at this point 456 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: at all. I know some facts, but it's premature to 457 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: be discussed. Can you tell us what the Steel dossier 458 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: had to do with this? What role did that play? Well, 459 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: that's one of the questions. You know that we're going 460 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: to have to look at it. It's a very unusual 461 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: situation to have opposition research like that, especially one that 462 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: on its face had a number of clear mistakes and 463 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: a somewhat Jejune analysis, and to use that to get 464 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: to conduct counterintelligence against the American political campaign as a 465 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: strange would be a strange development. I'm not sure what 466 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: role it played, but that's something we have to look at. 467 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: Do you smell a rat in this at this point, 468 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. If I described a rat, I would 469 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: just say that the answers I'm getting are not sufficient. 470 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that, Republicans have said for 471 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: months that these men, Brennan, Clapper, maybe James Comey had 472 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: it in for Trump. Do you think that's true? Again, 473 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speculate about their motives. In the 474 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: period of time between election day and the inauguration, did 475 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: anyone in government or in intelligence did they take action 476 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: to justify their decisions between election day? Did you say 477 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: between election day of two thousand and sixteen in November 478 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: and inauguration day. I think there were some very strange 479 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: developments during that period. That's one of the things we 480 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: want to look into, such as such as the handling 481 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: of the meeting on January sixth between the intelligence chiefs 482 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: and the president and the leaking of information subsequent to 483 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: that meeting. Was that meeting in New York City? Yes? 484 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: In Trump Tower? Yes? What questions do you have about 485 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: what happened that day? Again, I'm not going to get 486 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: into into that, but it's on your mind. That's one 487 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: of the things we need to look at. Can you 488 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: characterize how far advanced you are and understanding that meeting. 489 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: We're still in the stage of gathering all the information. 490 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Horowitz has already concluded that the final three fises were 491 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: completely illegal. He's now on the brink of finding that 492 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: the first FISA was completely illegal. Durham has already used 493 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: a grand jury in Connecticut. They've already gotten documents. He's 494 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: already talked to the Intel people. How long has this 495 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: been going on? Do we really know? Durham's been working 496 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: for a couple of months. So the bottom line is this, 497 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: This is now big time. This is where Brennan needs 498 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: five lawyers. Comy needs the lawyered. Are they lawyered up sufficiently? 499 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: I hope Comy has someone other than mister Richmond to 500 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: whom he leaked his memos, all right. That first was 501 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Bill Barr, I mean him on FIA. It is mind 502 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: numbing what he's saying, because everything we said is going 503 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: to happen is happening. And then Joe Degeneva that Horowitz 504 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: has already concluded that the final three fises were completely 505 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: illegal goal and dorham as already has convened a grand jury, 506 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: and he's working now for a couple of months, and 507 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: he made those comments on Fox, I mean, pretty amazing stuff. 508 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: We continue with Greg Jarrett, author of the number one 509 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: bestseller of the Russia Hoax. Scott Yullinger's with US retired 510 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: CIA OPS officer, Russian Intel operations expert, and welcome to you. Scott. 511 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this when the New York Times reports, 512 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: especially on the FISA issue, which is now really becoming 513 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: a focus for everybody, that it's likely Hillary bought and 514 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: paid for Russian disinformation and it becomes the basis of 515 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: a FISA application that is even worse than what we thought. 516 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have foreign spies, you know, putting 517 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: together dossiers that are full of lies in the first place. 518 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: And in an interrogatory Chris Steele said he doesn't stand 519 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: by his own document, then it's used as the basis 520 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: for a FISA warrant. It's an unverifiable document. They don't 521 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: tell all the FISA quarters. We discussed the last half 522 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: hour that Hillary paid for this thing, and yet let's 523 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: try on a political campaign. I mean, it's kind of 524 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: scary to me. It's absolutely, absolutely sewn, and it's it's 525 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: incredible that this happened. I mean the Steel dossier. For 526 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: an intelligence professional like myself, I realized it was garbage 527 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: more than two years ago because Christopher Steele was literally 528 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: speaking to former Russian officials on like in an open channel. 529 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: He was not having a clandestine meeting. So why would 530 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: you think that any official Russian would give you anything 531 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: other than what Vladimir Putin directly wanted to get out 532 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: to us. And that's the whole point of having clandestine sources. 533 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: They provide you information that is compromising, but calling someone 534 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: up on a telephone in London to Moscow, you're not 535 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: going to get a real scoop from somebody that way. 536 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: So the Steel dossine was inherently poisoned from the get go. Well, 537 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: you're retired CIA opts Office of Russian Intel operations that 538 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've been told by many people that know 539 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: that Russia has done this, not just to us, to everybody. 540 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: And I go back and I'm like, in twenty fourteen, 541 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: before the twenty sixteen election, Devin Nunez, then House Intelligence 542 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Committee Chair, was saying, they're gonna do it in twenty sixteen. 543 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: And that's under Biden Obama. All of this happened in 544 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Brennan and Clapper and call me and I'm just like, now, 545 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it becomes they try to throw 546 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: this somehow on Donald Trump when they had a duty 547 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and obligation. Did they not if the head of the 548 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Intel Committee knows, They've got to know too, don't they? 549 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: Or am I just inferring something it wouldn't be true. No, 550 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. And in fact, the Obama administration dropped 551 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: the ball by de emphasizing the danger of this before, 552 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, six months before the elections took place. But 553 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: anyone who understands the way the Russians up or he 554 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: knows that they've been doing this since you know, the 555 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: Russian Revolution. I mean, the whole reason they subsumed the 556 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Iron Curtain was because they Why did those governments flop 557 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: from within, you know, the countries like Czechoslovakia, Poland, and 558 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: then eventually brought them into the Soviet Empire. So there 559 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: are old hands at disrupting internal government functions and affecting 560 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: political perception. Greg, I mean this gets into all of this. 561 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand why America is still hackaboll Does that 562 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: makes sense? I think I read we have two hundred 563 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand IT employees for the federal government. I 564 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: think I always view America with the belief that we 565 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: have the best of the best, but you have these 566 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: instances where we keep hearing about our top secrets being 567 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: hacked into. I know there's some very smart, creative people 568 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: out there with nefarious intentions that always want to hurt us. 569 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: But after you get hacked a hundred times, do you 570 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: not say it's we're allowing this to happen. Why haven't 571 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: we built the defense systems up to prevent this from 572 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: happening to us? And maybe it's a moving target, I 573 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: assume at all times, but still it is. It is 574 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: a moving target in this sense. For every anti virus 575 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: program you can introduce to protect your system, nefarious actors 576 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: who are skilled at cyberspionage, like the GRU in Russia, 577 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: they come up with a way around it or a 578 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: different entrance to computer systems. So it is you're right, 579 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: it's sort of a constant moving target. You have to 580 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: continue to upgrade and look for ways to protect your system. 581 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting point that you bring up, because 582 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: it was always a silly proposition that the GRU and 583 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: the Russians somehow needed the Trump campaign to help them 584 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: hack into the Podesta emails and the Democratic system in 585 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton emails. There was nobody sophisticated on the Trump 586 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: campaign to do that. The Russian intrusions began before the 587 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Trump campaign, and so they didn't need Trump's helping. Yet, 588 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: when you look at the Muller report, so much of 589 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: time and attention is focused on their efforts to try 590 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: to prove that Trump colluded in the hacking of email systems, 591 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: and that it's just silliness to even consider it. All right, 592 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: quick break more, it's Scott and Gregg on the other side, 593 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: as we continue, As we continue with Greg Jarrett and 594 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: Scott Yillinger. I know it's a moving target, Scott and 595 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: I wouldn't begin to eat. I barely can download an 596 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: app for crying out loud. That's how pathetic I am 597 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: with computers. All right, that's not my thing. My young kids. 598 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Can you do this for me? That's what I say. 599 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: All you do it. And I think I'm like a 600 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: lot of people. I know the level of sophistication, you know. 601 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: I've had people on this program say that every phone call, 602 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: every text, every email is recorded, every single and stored 603 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: and megadata stored. And our own government does it all. 604 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: And I'm fine with having the best intelligence. I believe 605 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: we have the premier law enforcement agency in the world 606 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: with the FBI. I really believe that in the ninety 607 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent that that should never be tainted 608 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: by what some bad apples did at the top. And 609 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: I really believe that it pains me to ever even 610 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: talk negatively about this great agency that in any negative way. 611 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: But abuse of power occurred. And I believe with the 612 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: intelligence community too, the world's premier intelligence community. But those 613 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: tools are so powerful if we turn them on the 614 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: American people, or we use it for nefarious political reasons. 615 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: You know, at home, everything we stand for is a 616 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: constitutional republic, all of our rights, they're not only diminished, 617 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: they're destroyed and that seems to have happened. That's right, 618 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: John's and that's why I'm very alarmed at everything we've 619 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: been seeing with the Russian collusion hoax from from the 620 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: get go. It's I'm really glad that you've been sounding 621 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the call for for going on two years now, because 622 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: this is the worst political scandal we've ever had. I mean, 623 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: it is unprecedented for the CIA to be doing things 624 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: like installing spies to entrap people in a political campaign. Now. 625 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: Usually the CIA and even the FBI are bureaucratically, sometimes 626 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: they're relatively risk averse. I mean they want to avoid 627 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: what they call the quote, appearance of impropriety unquote, and 628 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: sometimes that can be even at the expense of not 629 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: always performing the mission. But here we have the opposite. 630 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: We have people dedicating the tools of the intelligence community 631 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: to spying on a US political campaign, which is inconceivable. 632 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: If you told me fifteen years ago when I was 633 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: in the agency that this would be occurring, I would 634 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: have refused to have believed it because I saw the 635 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: agency sometimes be very risk averse. But in this case, 636 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: they're willing to do something which is not only far 637 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: behind their mandate, but is illegal and yet they did 638 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: it because under the Obama administration, the entire intelligence commun 639 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: whether it's the FBI, the CIA, or the NSA, had 640 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: become thoroughly politicized. And this is what the American people 641 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: now have to live with. You know, Greg, I wonder 642 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: now what I mean? I wonder if in the end 643 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: we actually have to weaken, you know, our great work 644 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: because of the few bad apples. In other words, you know, 645 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: with the protections that we now need to put in. Well, 646 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: let's start with surveillance, all the unmasking that took place, 647 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: a three hundred and fifty percent increase in unmasking in 648 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen alone, Samantha Powers, you know, three hundred separate 649 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: unmasking requests. I don't want the talent of this agency 650 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: in this ugly, evil world we live in. Starting with 651 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: the bad actors in Russia and Vladimir putin himself by 652 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: the way, and we can bring him to his knees. 653 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: We will outproduce him energy wise, and that's it. We 654 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: would cripple their economy. That's how you defeat. But putting 655 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: that aside, and I just wonder, now, you know, what 656 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: is the antidote? How do you put in the protections 657 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: and still do the hard job of intelligence. Well, exposing 658 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: corruption tends to put a stop to what I refer 659 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: to as power creep. And it happens in agencies like 660 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: our intelligence community, the CIA, the FBI. It's happened before 661 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: when misconduct and corruption has been exposed. Congress has taken 662 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: actions to limit powers and accountability Congressional oversight and this, 663 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, this happens every twenty thirty years. It happened 664 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: about that time back in the eighties when we learned 665 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: of corrupt acts, and so it's going to happen again here. 666 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: We have now learned that, as Scott said, our intelligence 667 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: community became politicized and weaponized improperly and illegally under the 668 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Obama administration, and exposure is the only antecdote because that 669 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: precipitates restrictions and changes in oversight. Well, let me ask 670 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: you this, Scott, because you know, how bad is it? 671 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: How bad do you think the corruption is and how 672 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: vulnerable are we as a country from outside actors hostile 673 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: regimes Russia, Iran, China, North Korea in terms of their 674 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: ability to hack us. Well, I think I think that 675 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: this is in some ways, this whole revelation investigation by 676 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: the Attorney General is a good thing. Unfortunately, it comes 677 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: in a very bad time when we are uniquely challenged 678 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: by some significant threats such as mostly China, to a 679 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: lesser extent, Russia and of course Iran and North Korea. 680 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that was said before. By exposing this corruption 681 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: to the sun life and having real reform made, we 682 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: will reduce this politicization, which will automatically increase the effectiveness 683 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: of our intelligence community because we very much need it 684 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: in today's dangerous world. You know, the curse of any 685 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: intel service, and I've seen it in my career all 686 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: over the world is politicization. Once a service becomes politicized, 687 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: it is usually the path to ruin and that service 688 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: becomes marginalized and ineffective. So hopefully Barr will put a 689 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: stop to this. We'll have a thorough investigation, people who 690 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: misbehaved will be punished severely, and then we can move 691 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: on and have enhanced security for everyone. Well, I want 692 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: the right thing. I love this country, I love the 693 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: people that work for this country and protect us and 694 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: show us all the courage. I want to be the 695 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: best at that game, because it's not really a game. 696 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: Look at the last century alone, one hundred million souls 697 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: destroyed that we have to be ever vigilant. So I 698 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: just hope we got to the bottom of it all. Scott, 699 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: thank you for being one of those great Thank you 700 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Eight hundred ninety four one, Sean Tolfree telephone number. 701 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program when 702 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: we come back. 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We cherish the open door that 712 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: we want to create for our country, but a big 713 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: proportion of those immigrants must come in through merit and skill. 714 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: The White House Plan makes no change to the number 715 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: of Green cards allocated each year, but instead of admitting 716 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: people through random chance. We will establish simple, the universal 717 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: criteria for admission to the United States, no matter where 718 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 1: in the world you're born, no matter who your relatives are, 719 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: if you want to become an American citizen, it will 720 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: be clear exactly what standard we ask you to achieve. 721 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: It will be made crystal clear. We must also restore 722 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: the integrity of our broken asylum system. Our nation has 723 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: a proud history of affording protection to those fleeting government persecutions. Unfortunately, 724 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: legitimate asylum seekers are being displaced by those lodging frivolous claims. 725 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: These are frivolous claims to game admission into our country. 726 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: My plan expedites relief for legitimate asylum seekers by screening 727 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: out the meritless claims. If you have a proper claim, 728 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: you will quickly be admitted. If you don't, you will 729 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: promptly be returned home. All right, So that's what the 730 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: President said. And then there's fake news CNN. Now they 731 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: claim to be the facts first network. That's what they claim, Okay, 732 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: but never mind the fact. For two years and running, 733 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: they only perpetrated conspiracy theories, of hoax and lies to 734 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: their audience and the American people. But anyway, so it 735 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: caused the based on what you just turned. Trump in 736 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: Rose Garden speech paints asylum seekers with broad brush, accusing 737 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: them of misleading immigration authorities at the border. These are 738 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: frivolous claims, which is an accurate. President said, we must 739 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: also restore the integrity of our broken asylum system. Our 740 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: nation has a proud history of affording protection to those 741 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: fleeing government persecutions. Unfortunately, legitimate asylum seekers are being displaced 742 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 1: by those lodging frivolous claims. And these are frivolous claims 743 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: to gain admission into our country. And he added, my 744 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: plan expedites relief for legitimate asylum seekers by screening out 745 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: the meritless claims. If you have a proper claim, you 746 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: will quickly be admitted. If you don't, you will be 747 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: promptly returned home. That's not a broad brush accusing or 748 00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: painting asylum seekers of misleading immigration authorities at the border. Anyway, 749 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: joining us is Hogan Goodly is the principal deputy White 750 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: House Secretary work towards Sarah Sanders, How are you? I'm great, Sean, 751 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: how are you I'm good? Sir? I mean, look, we 752 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: know Acosta cares about Acosta and Acosta's image and Acosta's 753 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: life and Acosta's ego. I get it, but I mean 754 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: just to purposely do it, and then you wonder why 755 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: it's a waste of time to talk to these people. 756 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's worse than that. We have a 757 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: million people in this country right now with final removal 758 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: orders from judges who came here and claimed asylum. They 759 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: had their case adjudicated and it turns out they were 760 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: not telling the truth and they did not deserve asylum 761 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 1: in this great country, and the judge ordered them removed. 762 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: We have a million of those people. No one reports 763 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: on that at all. It is completely brushed out of 764 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: the rug, and you hear reporter after reporter have these 765 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: biased conversations and biased reporting that tries to somehow paint 766 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: us as a nation that isn't compassionate. We're the most 767 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: compassionate nation on the face of the planet. Were led 768 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: in one point one million people a year into this 769 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: country legally, hundreds of thousands of visas for workers, hundreds 770 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: of thousands of visas for students. So to say anything 771 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: other than the fact that we are generous and we 772 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 1: welcome people, not to mention ones who desperately deserve and 773 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: need asylum. As you just pointed out, you'll quickly be 774 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: led into this country if that's the case. The problem 775 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: is so many are lying and defrauding the system and 776 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: scamming the system. We've seen a seventeen hundred percent increase 777 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: incredible fear claims in the last seven years because they 778 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: know the magic words. They're coached by the drug cartels 779 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: and the human smugglers and the child traffickers of how 780 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: to get in this country. It's time to change it. 781 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: This president is doing it regardless of what the mainstream 782 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: media try to lie about. Well, I mean, and that's 783 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: the hard part. I mean, and this is what you 784 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: guys deal with every day. And then they complain about, 785 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, well, that you don't have enough press conferences. 786 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: Those press conferences have devolved into every single Washington Press 787 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: Corps member. They're not looking for information, they're looking for 788 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: their moment, their gotcha. Their own careers are in play 789 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: for them and what they're asking you know what I'm saying. 790 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: So it's really hard. Of course, of course, listen, we're 791 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: not going to be responsible for launching the careers of 792 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: people who just decide to grandstand inside the press briefing room. 793 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: Sarah Sanders goes out there every time delivers the information. 794 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: The President gives information on the way to Marine one 795 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: in gaggles. He is the most accessible president in the 796 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: history of the planet. Anyone who covers the White House 797 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: and has for decades will tell you as much. However, 798 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: in that briefing room, as you just said, so many 799 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: are auditioning for contracts. And you see, since we haven't 800 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: had that many briefings of late, because we've been giving 801 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: the media so much other news and other forms, whether 802 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: they're gaggles on the lawn or the president directly, those 803 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: folks who used to get a lot of airtime aren't 804 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: getting as much airtime because they're not relevant, because they 805 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: don't get to use the White House to try and 806 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: pad their own careers. Well, let me ask you from 807 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: this standpoint. I mean, you know, for example, it seems 808 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: like nobody wants to give Donald Trump a win. And 809 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, when the Democrats were offered on the case 810 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: of immigration, they seem to care about walls and borders 811 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: when Obama was proposing it in its second term, and 812 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: they were willing to fund it. Then, and they seem 813 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: to care about dreamers, and they seem to care about Dhaka. 814 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: And the President offered all of the above, and the 815 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: answer became and evolved into that this is somehow a 816 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: manufactured crisis and it's a moral to build walls. So 817 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: that tells me that this is all about politics. Absolutely, 818 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: they've been playing politics with people's lives for a long time, 819 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: you know as well as I do. Democrats just hate 820 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: being out of power, but they'll us DOCCA to their 821 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: advantage anyway possible. The President offered one point eight million 822 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: people here under the DOCCA rule citizenship, three times more 823 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: than Barack Obama, and the Democrats still wouldn't come to 824 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: the table. Barack Obama called this a humanitarian crisis from 825 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: the Rose Garden, and the Democrats cheered and said, we 826 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: have to fix it. Donald Trump gets in office, not 827 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: only does Donald Trump deliver his first Oval office address 828 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: directly to the American people, predicting this would happened on 829 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: the southern border, claiming the crisis was on its way. 830 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: He got mocked and derioted, as did Fox News, for example, 831 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: saying that they were lying about all of this. And 832 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: in all of that, Nancy Pelosia and Chuck Schumer go 833 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: on and get airtime after his oval office address, which 834 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: is unheard of in the first place. But they go 835 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: on television and use the term manufactured crisis three times. 836 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: But was it manufacturer when Obama called it? That? Was 837 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: it manufactured when they voted for walls and they voted 838 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: to close loopholes in years past. Absolutely not. This has 839 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: gotten way out of control and Democrats are the party 840 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: of open borders. That's their only solution to this, because 841 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: they choose to stand with hundreds of thousands of people 842 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: who come here illegally and unlawfully every month, as opposed 843 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: to the hundreds of millions of American citizens, and as 844 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: time they answer for it. Well, I agree. So as 845 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: we move forward with the president's agenda, you've got record 846 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: breaking success. You've got Democrats that are trying to outgreen 847 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: deal the each other, and somehow there has emerged the 848 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: consensus among the Democratic Party in the Democratic Party that well, 849 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: we need to get rid of oil and gas for 850 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: the first time in seventy five years. Hogan, we are 851 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: energy independent and they net ex border of energy. We're 852 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: all the talk about Russia. We can bring Russia to 853 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: its knees if we outproduce them with energy and get 854 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: it to our allies and get it to Asia and 855 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: get it to Australia. Secondly, record low unemployment for African Americans, 856 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans in the workplace. We have now 857 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: one point seven million more jobs available than we have 858 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: people on unemployment. This has not happened Biden. Obama gave 859 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: US thirteen million more Americans on food stamps, eight million 860 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: more in poverty, the worst recovery in forty years, and 861 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: more debt than all forty three presidents before them combined. 862 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: And it's like, what part of this success are they 863 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: not enjoying? They ought to be cheering and thanking this 864 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: president for turning around an economy for the very people 865 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: they claim to want to help. The point you just said, 866 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: which you're African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women are 867 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: now employed at record numbers. I mean, this president has 868 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 1: systematically turned around the economy with deregulation and tax cuts. 869 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: And the proof is what you see with the people 870 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: who are actually seeing success, and people like Marida Blasio 871 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: for example, saying, with this Green New Deal taking it 872 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: so far, he's talking about not using glass and steel 873 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: to build buildings. I mean, look, this has been tried before. 874 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: It's in the story of the Three Little Pigs. And 875 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: if history is any guide building with straw and sticks, 876 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: it just doesn't end well for him. You can't do 877 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: that either, But what are you gonna use? You can't 878 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: use wood because then you're cutting exactly. It's absolutely incredible. 879 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: And they still are going down this road. You mentioned 880 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: it on the intro. They're still talking about cover ups 881 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: and Russia. I heard Carl Bernstein of the famed Woodward 882 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: and Bernstein group the other day saying, this is an 883 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: ongoing cover up. What is he talking about? First of all, 884 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: he's been scratching and clawing to be relevant since the 885 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies. But every time I hear him talk, it's 886 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: almost as though he's a fifty year old man at 887 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: a cocktail party talking about the one time he threw 888 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass in high school. I mean, it's over 889 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: Watergate's over this cover up he's claiming to be. The 890 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: entire thing is public. Mueller had two years to do this, 891 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Barr put out every word with a few little tents 892 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: of a redaction, and they still can't get over it 893 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: because they wanted it to be true so badly. And 894 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: if they admit that it was a lie, and they 895 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: admit that they were telling the American people a flat 896 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: out wide of their face without proof or evidence, then 897 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: they're going to admit the fact that the last two 898 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: years of their life were a complete and total waste 899 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: and they just refused to let go. Now, let me 900 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: ask you a little bit more details about the President's 901 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: plan on immigration. Fewer green cards given to people with 902 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: relatives already in the US. Factors like age, English language proficiency, 903 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: employment offers also taken into account. The Diversity Visa lottery, 904 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: which offers green cards to citizens of countries with historically 905 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: low rates of immigration of the US, would be eliminated. 906 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: Will strengthen our ports of entry, will continue to build 907 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: the wall and all the other technologies that are needed. 908 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: A fund paid for with increased fees, created a modernized 909 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: ports of entry. And you know, you know it sounds 910 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: reasonable and rightly. So it doesn't address what to do 911 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: about the millions of people here already, and I don't 912 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: think that should be addressed until the wall is built 913 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: in its secure. Sure. Well, look you when you spring 914 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: a league Obviously you want to fix the league. You 915 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: don't go shopping for a new sink. I mean, the 916 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: fact is we have a leak in this country as 917 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: it relates to illegal immigration coming across our borders and 918 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: record numbers you hit on it. The plan that the 919 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: present laid out is not only reasonable, it's rational and 920 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: actually addresses the problem. In twofold one is border security. 921 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,959 Speaker 1: The pieces you mentioned on strengthening some of our infrastructure 922 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: to scan one hundred percent of the vehicles that come across, 923 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the trade cargo. I mean you 924 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: thought we've been doing that. We haven't building the wall. 925 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: We'll have about four hundred plus miles built by the 926 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: end of the year next year. But also the merit 927 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: based system. As you just said, we found out that 928 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: people who come here who are younger tend to assimilate. 929 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: Data shows that they tend to actually contribute to the 930 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 1: American economy and to the idea of what America actually is. 931 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: That's important. Also, people who come here with degrees, people 932 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: who come here with skills to work in our manufacturing sector. 933 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the president is bringing back these jobs. He 934 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,959 Speaker 1: keeps hearing from the owners of these companies they need 935 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: more workers. So we're talking about bringing people in like that, 936 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,240 Speaker 1: not low wage workers, low skill workers to depress wages, 937 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: but higher wage individuals who have a skill that can 938 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: contribute to this country. It seems rational, it seems reasonable. 939 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: It's no wonder Democrats don't like it because it makes 940 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: too much sense. Well, I think this is the thing. 941 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: You know, one of the big messages I think for 942 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: the reelection is going to be are you better off 943 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: than your war four years ago? It's a pretty simple answer, 944 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: absolutely across the board. As the groups we just mentioned 945 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: as the demographics, the answers yes. And when eighty plus 946 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: percent of this country receives a tax cut, and then 947 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: the media comes out and has to say, you guys 948 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: received a tax cut, and then they're shocked that the 949 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: American people didn't realize they got a tax cut. It's 950 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: because they've been reporting a lie for the last two 951 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: years saying you didn't get it, it only went to 952 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: the rich, and we find out a majority of the 953 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: country gets the tax cut. I mean, this is the 954 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: type of ninety three percent negative news coverage this president 955 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: has to endure that no other president in history has 956 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: had to face. And he's winning every day, all day 957 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: for all demographics and all the people in this country. 958 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: And Democrats just don't know what to do about it. Yeah, 959 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: well said all right, thank you so much. Hogan Gidley 960 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: is the principal Deputy White House Press Secretary. Thank you 961 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: so much for being with us. When the Devil finished, 962 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 1: Johnny said, well, your pretty good old son. But sitting 963 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: down in that chair right there, and let me show 964 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: you how it's done. Found the Mountain Rock, bad bron 965 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: the Devil in the House of the Rising Sun, Chicken 966 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: in the red Red and pick it out ready due 967 00:57:47,720 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: to all back, no town, all right in justice. I 968 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: just love music. Doesn't music make me feel good? Makes 969 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: me feel so good? And by the way, when second, 970 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to our buddy, Charlie Daniels. He's 971 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: got a veteran's nonprofit. It's called the Journey Home Project. 972 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,439 Speaker 1: They partnered with Rich Poverty Organization to assemble a new 973 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: art exhibit at the Pentagon and the exhibit is entitled 974 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: The Alliance Collection, a gallery literally of combat civilian photographs 975 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: taken by vets and their families. It's now on display 976 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: for public viewing and the Journey Home Project this nonprofit, 977 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, assists other not for profits and securing the 978 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: funds they need to help the causes that benefit vents 979 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: and let's play it. So we've been at this for 980 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: a long time and we got involved in recognizing veterans 981 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: needs that when our veterans are coming home, and especially 982 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: it seems like from more recent wars, the Afghanistan War, 983 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: the Iraq War, that our veterans administration and the government 984 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: agencies that are tasked with trying to help our veterans 985 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: transition from one life to another, from military life to 986 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: back to a civilian life are just dropping the ball. 987 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: And my manager, David Corlan and myself got together with 988 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: a couple of people with Joe and Mercy long Driver 989 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: and Ed Hardy and said, let's incorporate this thing. David, 990 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: the film called the Journey Home, and that's where the 991 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: name came from. It just seemed like a good name 992 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: as a journey Home, I think describes what happens with 993 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: our veterans when they come home. I look at the 994 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: concept of the Journey Home project, it is a journey. 995 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: It is a path, a walk, a journey every bloody day, 996 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:11,919 Speaker 1: and it's it's a hard journey. To suddenly not have 997 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: the focus, the organization, the discipline, the respect, the task, 998 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: the commonality, the trust that you did when you were 999 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: in uniform, and then try to adapt to that the 1000 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: transition period into a society that, for most cases bluntly 1001 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: does not hold itself to the same ethical or moral 1002 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: standards that the armed forces do. And so I'm so 1003 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: appreciative of not only the approach of the Journey Home project, 1004 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: but the recognition that our emphasis from my foxhold needs 1005 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: to be on that transition period, because that transition is 1006 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: different for everyone that walk along the path back home. 1007 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: I think there's two parts of this. I think we 1008 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: as veterans need to recognize that we're among a select 1009 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: few that have done and gone and done what we 1010 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: have done and been a part of something that's been 1011 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: bigger than ourselves. Just because we don't put our uniforms 1012 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 1: on anymore doesn't mean that we're not still a part 1013 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: of that. We still have an obligation to our brothers 1014 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 1: and sisters to be there for them, to support them 1015 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: and push them, just as we did in the military. 1016 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: So we as veterans have to step up and take 1017 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: take it to the fight. We've got to be there 1018 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: to support our brothers and sisters and point them in 1019 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the right direction. We have to learn from our own mistakes. 1020 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I have to learn from our own hardships. But we 1021 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: can't do that alone. I never would have gotten where 1022 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I've forgotten if it wasn't for the network that I've 1023 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: created and the help from the Journey Home. And that's 1024 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: where other Americans come into play. There's a lot of 1025 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: nonprofits out there that are honorable and that are focused 1026 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: on serving veterans rather than benefiting from being associated with veterans. 1027 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: The Journey Home Project is at the top of that list. 1028 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: So that's what Journey Home is. We are here for 1029 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the veterans. We are here to try to help them 1030 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: have a softer land in a smoother transition coming from 1031 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: the military life to the savian life. Wow, that's very powerful. 1032 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: The man Charlie Daniel's country music legend, dear friend and 1033 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: probably the most one of the most generous people when 1034 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 1: it comes to our vets, loving this country, patriotism, appreciating 1035 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: the sacrifice of others, and giving back, which he's done 1036 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: his entire career. How are you good? I can't believe 1037 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't get to see you more often, and I 1038 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: only get to talk to you occasionally on radio and TV. 1039 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: What's going on, my friend? Wow, Man, it's just good 1040 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I was sitting here trying to 1041 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: figure out house. I won't say anything after that introduction 1042 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: you gave me. Man. Well, I mean it's a great cause, 1043 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: that's it. And like so many other great veteran causes, 1044 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: like how many freedom concerts did you do for us 1045 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: over the years? We raised a bunch of money and 1046 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: that money's even still being distributed to this day. Well, 1047 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: we had more fun than we should have had. That's true. 1048 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Ain't it ain't fair to be doing something good in 1049 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: having at much money at the same time. You know, well, 1050 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: it's legendary me Butchering the Devil went down to Georgia 1051 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: on stage and you know you did no, no, no, 1052 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: I ruined the whole concert. It's it's your own. And 1053 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: then you know they're expecting Charlie Daniel's version and they 1054 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: get the Hannity version, and I'm just I'm a mess. 1055 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I did not. I tried my harness though. You know something, 1056 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: if you were to go around your country and talk 1057 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: to a hundred people that it comes to that concert 1058 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: and you asked him, what is the moment you remember 1059 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: the most, Oh, what would say with Sean Hannity Devil 1060 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: way down to Georgia and jumped all over the stage. Man, 1061 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,479 Speaker 1: A combination of Mick Jagger and Garth Brooks. Oh, Man, 1062 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: that's a there's a combination. By the way. I stay 1063 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: in touch with with Charlie Junior. Um. And I know 1064 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: you had little health dissues a while back, but pretty 1065 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: long while now you're doing great, right back on the 1066 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: road everythings. Man, just had checkups this past week with 1067 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: my doctors and everything's good. Like y'aron had put up 1068 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: with me for a while off, I think it will 1069 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: be God willing will put up with you for a 1070 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: much longer. And Um, how many shows you doing this year? 1071 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: We've got to tack one hundred and fourteen on the 1072 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: books right now. We're programming more. We're gonna We're gonna 1073 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: rock on out this year. We're doing We're turning, in fact, 1074 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: we're turning with Travis Party the year tilm withou Alabama 1075 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: part of the year, and good a lot of stuff 1076 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: on our own. So I love Alabama and Travis, they're 1077 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: they're both you know what. I love that that that 1078 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: style of country I really do. It's great. Yeah Alabama, 1079 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, sweep potato pie and I shut my mouth boom. Yeah, 1080 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: how cool is that? You know? Great guys for sure. 1081 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, we're we're we're out here hitting it, getting 1082 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: on it. We're gonna be at Vacant Theater a little 1083 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: later on year and maybe come see us there. And 1084 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: you you're gonna be up. What are you coming up 1085 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to New York? I didn't know. I can't remember. I'll 1086 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: make What's where am I? What's day in my? All? Right? 1087 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: So when you're traveling, you're traveling this beautiful big Charlie 1088 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Daniel bust, you tell me you love it. It's home 1089 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 1: for you in many ways, although I know you love 1090 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: your home back in Tennessee. But and you travel in 1091 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: this thing. Come on, over the years, there's got to 1092 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: be days when you're when you're pounding it out night 1093 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: after night after night and entertaining so many people that 1094 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you're like, what's city are in today? Well? I do that, 1095 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: you know? For I think sometimes I'm getting ready to 1096 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: say good Ethan you know whoever. But somebody you ever 1097 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: have to say, where are we again? In this time? Well? 1098 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 1: I have made a mistake on that before. People do 1099 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: not like it. No, they don't like it. Man. They 1100 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: want to be loved in their state. You know, and 1101 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: you're still doing music. When did you first know you 1102 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: loved music? I love music all my wife. I can't 1103 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: remember time when I didn't. But I never had a 1104 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: chance to learn how to play until I was about 1105 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: fourteen years old and a friend of mine show get 1106 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: a few chords on a guitar. And once I learned 1107 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: three chords on a guitar and I could play a 1108 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,919 Speaker 1: whole song, I was ruined us all I ever wanted 1109 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: to do. I just thank god I met a living 1110 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: doing something I love as much as I do playing music. 1111 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm is in love with it now as I wasn't 1112 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: really started out. Okay, Now, for people that want to 1113 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: be a part of your charity, it is the Journey 1114 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Home Project out of the do that we can go 1115 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to our website. Uh and we got a link on 1116 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com. I'll make it easy for people. How's 1117 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: that we kind of a website and we you know, 1118 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: check us out and see what we are. We're very 1119 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: open and above board about what we do. We're involved 1120 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: in a thing right now where they aren't a picture 1121 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: display at the Pentagon and ex Green X Special Forces 1122 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: guy Ken Wallace put together. That's the interesting thing. It's 1123 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: like they have done pictures, all pictures, and they've taken 1124 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: pictures of war, but they've also taken pictures of their 1125 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: surroundings and the places they were fighting from all over 1126 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the world, the people and the places that they were 1127 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: in and around, and it's a it's a really interesting thing. 1128 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: It gives a whole other look at things. And the 1129 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: thing about it is these guys get together and it's 1130 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,919 Speaker 1: unbelievable or yeah, I love I love you, I love 1131 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I love your love of our veterans. 1132 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: They need all the hell they can get. It's the 1133 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Journey Home Project. We just threw it up on Hannity 1134 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: dot Com and anything people can do. We always want 1135 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: to support you, Charlie. Thank you for all you do. 1136 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: We love you.