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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday,

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Speaker 1: March tenth, Conference Championship week. Just rolling along and we

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Speaker 1: got a big Friday, head huge Friday in the Big ten.

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Speaker 1: Also a big Friday personally for your boy. I will

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Speaker 1: be hosting the Herd first time since twenty nineteen on

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Speaker 1: the FS one version. I've done the radio only several times.

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Speaker 1: Should be fun. Got a couple of topics worth discussing, rights,

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Speaker 1: some college hoops, little NFL. Should I start going in

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Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray? Did you guys see the quote quote?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody saw this. It didn't get

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Speaker 1: a lot of play because obviously there's a million college

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Speaker 1: basketball games. Everybody's waiting for Aaron Rodgers, there's Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: and some NBA's happenings last night. Obviously, if the Warriors

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Speaker 1: are on the road in the regular season, they're losing,

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Speaker 1: even to the Grizzlies, who are struggling without John Morant.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Draymond got into it with

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Speaker 1: It was a nice little loss for the Warriors. At

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Speaker 1: any rate, we have a great guest today, so I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take anything away from him. His name

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Speaker 1: is Brian Costello. I've known him for over twenty years now.

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Speaker 1: I was at the local newspaper. I'm sorry, he was

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Speaker 1: at the local newspaper when I was at JMU going

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Speaker 1: to college and we I think I've told I've had

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Speaker 1: him on the podcast before. We were battling over a

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Speaker 1: story about the quarterback of the football team quitting. He

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Speaker 1: an SID at it. Wait, no, he was the ad

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He was the a D at an ACC school.

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Speaker 1: His son was a good quarterback and then he quit

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Speaker 1: the team because he was beefing with the coach. And

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Speaker 1: like a friend was in the lunch room when some

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Speaker 1: I just want I kind of wonder, is all this

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Speaker 1: You'll have no future. It's your choice. Don't do it again.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's one thing when somebody yells at you,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here, transferred, goes to Oklahoma sits starts

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Speaker 1: incredible high school career, some adversity in college, I'm out

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Speaker 1: of here goes to Oklahoma, starts one year, goes to

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Speaker 1: the pros, struggled as a rookie, got better third year playoffs,

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Speaker 1: they didn't win. And then he demanded the money. Arizona

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Speaker 1: He wanted the clause about the homework out of the contract.

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Speaker 1: He got it. Whatever Kyler Murray wants, he gets. There

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Speaker 1: is no way that this franchise is going to continue

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Speaker 1: to be successful. Until someone stands up to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: And you just had an offensive lineman step up and

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Speaker 1: guys go on social media, you'll see the commentary, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, Kyler's guy from Oklahoma, Hollywood Brown, his video

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Speaker 1: I mean I think they rework c. J. Mosley's deal.

424
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll restructure that clear cap space. They could

425
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: do that with laws into and clear some CAV space.

426
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they could end up cutting Lawson if they

427
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: have to. The other thing you have to consider Jason

428
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, Jermaine Johnson was a first round

429
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: pick last year and Michael Clemens was a fourth round

430
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: pick who showed some showed some potential. You gotta get

431
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: that on the fields right right now. You could you

432
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: could view Carl Lawson as a as a progress blocker.

433
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well, but um, you know,

434
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: they could say, Okay, we're gonna move on. So I

435
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a a lot of moving pieces here

436
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: in the next few days, regardless of Rodgers. They have

437
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: to defer the stuff just to get cap space to

438
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: make some moves. And then the Rogers thing is going

439
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: to depend on what his contract looks like. His CAF

440
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: figure is not bad, the cash is bad. The cap

441
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: figures like fifteen million, which is not bad for our Yeah. Yeah,

442
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: so I think they'll they'll be able to maneuver. But

443
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: I think Salo wants to bring most of his defense

444
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: back after this success they had last year. So it'll

445
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it plays out. So the

446
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: Jets did not tag Quinn and Williams. He's going to

447
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: get paid, right Quinn and Williams is on his fifth

448
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: year option, so they did not have to tag it.

449
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: He's on a free agent, so he's under contract for

450
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three on the fifth year option. Now he is,

451
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's not going to play on that right Well,

452
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: that's a different story. He's not going to show for

453
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: the spring, right he said, if he doesn't have a

454
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: new contract, he's not coming for the volunteer portion of

455
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: the program, which understandable. It gets a little different when

456
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: training camp starts. He start getting fined. If you don't,

457
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: you're not there. That's a different step. But I think

458
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: the Jets do want to pay him. They do. He's

459
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, he had a great season last year.

460
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: He's been good in the locker room. You know, the

461
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: guys like him. Everyone in the building likes him. So

462
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: I think he'll get paid. I'm I'm not sure that's

463
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: happening right now. It might be down the road. It

464
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: might be before a training camp, but I think at

465
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: some point he'll get a contract this offseason. Okay, so

466
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: the money's aside, the free agents everything settled. Let's say

467
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: they go through and get Rogers. He comes into the

468
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: locker room. Brian, you know you've worked a lot of places,

469
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: You've covered a lot of teams. We're talking about a

470
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: very young team in the Jets. For their five best

471
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: players are young. I mean, good luck finding an over

472
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: thirty year old veteran on this team who's a leader.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't maybe Moseley, yeah, I just Rogers is gonna

474
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: look around. He's not going to have a ton in

475
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: common with these guys. Like from just a getting a

476
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: long perspective, this is there's gonna be a this is

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult for a guy like Rogers. Well,

478
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be. I don't think it's probably

479
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: anything different for him. I mean, I think the Packers

480
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: were a young team too, right. I think when you

481
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: get to when you get to that age, like thirty

482
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: nine years old, no matter where you go, there's hardly

483
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: anyone that's your age, right, Like in any I have

484
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: a locker room you're once you get past thirty three,

485
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: thirty four, you're in a different like you're closer to

486
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: my age than everybody else's in a locker room. My god,

487
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: because they've had you know, Josh mccawm was here, and

488
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: he was he was an upper age and when he

489
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: was with the Jets, and it's just different. But I think,

490
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's gonna be a big deal. Um, Like,

491
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: will they be hanging out. Probably not, because they don't

492
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: have similar interests. Although Rogers is not a guy with

493
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: a big family, because that's usually there's usually the guys

494
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: with the families and the younger guys who are going

495
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: in the city. So maybe Rogers will relate to them

496
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: a little more because he doesn't have to go home

497
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: to kids. But it's, um, you know, I don't think

498
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: that'll be a big deal. I think I think they

499
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: can figure it out. It's gonna be interesting for the

500
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Jets to manager. He's a celebrity and the Jets haven't

501
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: had a celebrity in a long time. You know, it's

502
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: been a while. I think Sanchez was a celebrity. I

503
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: would give him that, but he probably wasn't even to

504
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: this level. You know, it's a guy who's on state

505
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: farm commercials. Who you know, my my not you know,

506
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: my ten year old daughter knows who he is because

507
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: he's on state farm commercials, right so, and like my

508
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: mother knows who he is, like he spans. He goes

509
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: way outside football. So it's gonna be an interesting thing

510
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: for the Jets to manage. But when you say he

511
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: goes outside football, you're really underselling it. This is a

512
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: guy who goes on Joe Rogan's podcast, he goes on

513
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show, and the topics are geared. You could

514
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: almost say political with a lot of this COVID stuff.

515
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Bryant, he's going from. I don't know

516
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: what what what would you say? Wisconsin is like a

517
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: is that I don't know if it's a red or blue,

518
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's a purple or whatever in the name state. Yeah,

519
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: well you know what New York is and Rogers has

520
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: pretty much made it clear. And again I don't really

521
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: care that he picks Aside or whatever. He's clearly in

522
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: the Republican camp and now he wants to go to

523
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: New York. Something doesn't add up about that. I think

524
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's about football. Jason. I don't think he's care about them.

525
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna care about the politics here,

526
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think Eddy fans are gonna care about

527
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: his politics as long as he's winning games. As he's

528
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: winning games, yeah yeah, if he loses games, yeah that people,

529
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what is he doing? But did you

530
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: say it's about football? I mean, Brian, I can't remember

531
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: the last interview he did about football. Everything is non

532
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: football stuff. It's darkness to treat you know, I mean,

533
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: what are you talking about green Bay media during the week?

534
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: Is it's football? Yeah? Goes a little different, but he'll

535
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think the decision, I mean,

536
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: is football based, right, I don't think. I don't think

537
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of options right now, right, Like, yeah,

538
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: that that should be telling. I don't. I feel like

539
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: you're not all all in? Well, who do you? Who

540
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: makes sense for him? There's not that makes that makes

541
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: sense for him? Right? Who makes sense? But why? Why

542
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: doesn't it make sense of the money? Because of the money,

543
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: because because you have to, like, I'm not sure people

544
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: grasp this his money. He's getting a one million dollars

545
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: salary this year, one million dollars. The rest of it

546
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: is a check that you have to cut for fifty

547
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: eight million dollars by September thirtieth. You have to write

548
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: a check for fifty eight million dollars. This isn't like

549
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: over five years, it's not. It's it is a check

550
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: that you're handing him. Mark Davis can't write that check. Jason,

551
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: No way, no way. The Raiders can do that. There's

552
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, Wody Johnson can the Jets have It makes

553
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: sense for the Jets in terms of where they are

554
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: in terms of team building. They feel like they're a

555
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: quarterback away. They've got a desperate coach, they've got a

556
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: desperate gm who need to save their jobs. So things

557
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: line up for the Jets. I'm not sure there's another

558
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: team where it lines up quite as cleanly. I haven't

559
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: been able to think of one. People throwing the Raiders

560
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: out there. What about the Mini Dolphins, Like, where are

561
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: they with Tuah? Right? I think I mean giving them

562
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: the fifth year option, But they have better receivers than

563
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: the Jets, they have a better offensive coach than the Jets.

564
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: They could do it. They could do it. But then

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: I think I think they're they're a red state the problem.

566
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: I think the problem. I think the problem. Don't laugh,

567
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: don't scoff at that, Brian, that's I mean, it's what

568
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: are Johnson was also the ambassador under Donald Trump Kingdom.

569
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: So it's not like it's not like he's coming to

570
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: the land of the Democrats here in Florham Park. I

571
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: know New York overall is but like, yeah, there's so.

572
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: But Miami, like, all right, Stephen Ross, if they go

573
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: down this road and then they don't get him. Now

574
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: they've done this to Tuah again, like they did this

575
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: with the Shawn Watson, they did it with Tom Brady.

576
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Like at some point the Dolphins have to stop like

577
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: flirting with every every pretty girl that comes along in

578
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: front of their wife here, you know. So I think

579
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: I think for Miami that's a real thing. Is like

580
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: if you're if you're not sure you're gonna lay in them,

581
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: you better not go down that road. So but yeah, Miami,

582
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Miami is a team out there. But I do think

583
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: they you know, they have toa and I don't think

584
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: they're they're looking to move on from to it right now.

585
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: But if Miami falls into that boat with the Jets,

586
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: with an owner and poveting stars back. I mean the

587
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Brady move. You can pay them reeks of desperation. Fox

588
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

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00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360
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591
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: listen live. I guess I should ask at this point,

592
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: let's just say the nuclear option happens and Aaron Rodgers

593
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: is you know what, I gave it a lot of thought.

594
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I I don't want to go to you. Sorry, Yeah,

595
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm staying in Green Bay. Okay, where are the Jets

596
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: at that point screwed? Well? I don't are they They

597
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: are from a public perception, Jason, because I thought until

598
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Tuesday they were fine. Like if the things didn't work out,

599
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: they got on a plane and they went to his house,

600
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: and you know, they look they look like a desperate

601
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: team that just wants him. And if they get turned

602
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: now they get turned down by him, that's a tough sal.

603
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: You know your fan base, that's a tough sal. I

604
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: think they'd have to turn to Jimmy Garoppolo, who's gonna

605
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of suitors in free agency. What's wrong

606
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: with that? He's younger more, I mean it's fair. Yeah,

607
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't stay in the field, and you're

608
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna you have the Zach Wilson thing then, right, like,

609
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: if if Zach Wilson's your backup, they don't want him

610
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: to play, right, they're gonna have him on the rocks.

611
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: They don't want to They do not want Zach Wilson

612
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: to play. If Jimmy Garoppolo comes here, is Zach Wilson's

613
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: probably playing. Aaron Rodgers doesn't miss many games. So where

614
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: are you on this idea that potentially Matt Stafford could

615
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: be in the mix? Now, I've been prattling on about

616
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: this for a couple of months that you know, the

617
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Rams went to Stafford and said, hey, could you, you know,

618
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: rework your deal? We want a Super Bowl And Stafford

619
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not. And they're like, well, we're kind

620
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: of handcuffed you. We can't do much. So all of

621
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, now they're John Jayalen Ramsey, and Leonard Floyd

622
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: and we're just we're gonna unload everybody. They're trying to

623
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: clear up Caprio. There's a scenario where they say, you

624
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: know what, we gotta get off Stafford and Sean McVay

625
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: can make it work with Jared Goff. He can make

626
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: it work with Stafford, like he can make it work

627
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: with anybody. If you are the Jets, are you interested

628
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: in Stafford? He's coming off an injury, but he's younger

629
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: than Rogers for sure. Yeah, I'd have to look at

630
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: that closer, Jason. I honestly have not looked at Stafford

631
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: as an option because I haven't heard that from anyone

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00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: that he's an option for them. So I'd have to

633
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: dig deeper on you know, everything that that how he

634
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: fits and what his contract is and everything. But I

635
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: think if Roger says no, then everything's on the table.

636
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Like I think, you know, Jets fans are also clamoring

637
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. Well that was my next guy to

638
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: bring up. I don't see that happening. But well wait, wait, guy,

639
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: because two first round picks, I don't think they want

640
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: to give that up. I don't think what he wants

641
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: to get him a fully guaranteed contract if that is

642
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: indeed what he wants, which you know has been reported.

643
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Now you say, you say Wood he doesn't want to

644
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: do it. Just would he have a relationship with Bishotti?

645
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: The uh? I mean, just not that I know of

646
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: like of any closeness, but I don't think I don't

647
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: think the owners want to do that at all to

648
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: each other. Of establishing that precedent, I mean, it's the

649
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: president has been established with DeShawn Watson. By furthering that

650
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: precedent and doing it now for Lamar, I don't think

651
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: the owners want that want a world where all these

652
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: guys are getting guaranteed contracts and be reluctant to do that.

653
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: And the other thing to consider, too, Jason, is like,

654
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets could go down that road and say, Okay,

655
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him a two hundred and fifty million

656
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: dollar contract, We're willing to give up the two first

657
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: round picks, and then the Ravens could turn around and say, okay,

658
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: well match, And now the Jets are really out the

659
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: cole now they've been rejected Jamar Jackson. You know, I mean,

660
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's just something to consider. I really

661
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: don't think they'd want to do it though. And don't

662
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: forget Joe Douglas knows that organization very well. He knows

663
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: everything there is to know about Lamar Jackson and what's

664
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: gone on there. And there's certain point, there's some stuff

665
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: going on there. You know that that I don't think

666
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: it's public that. Um, we'll give you pause on Lamar

667
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: versus the Ravens. Yeah, yeah, I'm just having I'm just Lamar.

668
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I think the rate. I'm like, why why the Ravens

669
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: are reluctant to give him a full guarantee contract. I

670
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: think I don't think it's it's as simple as people

671
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: are making it out to me. M Yeah. My only

672
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: thing is Lamar's twenty six years old. You get in

673
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: bed with Lamar Jackson, that's a long term relationship. I mean, Brian,

674
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks? How many starting quarterbacks at the Jets

675
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: had in the last fifteen years, might be fifteen. I

676
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like Cleveland Brown's territory. At some point,

677
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: You've got to get in a long term relationship. You

678
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: can't keep jumping in. Let's jump into farm, let's jump

679
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: in a Rogers. Wow, they've tried in their defense, like

680
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: they drafted a guy number three overall, they drafted a

681
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: guy number two overall. They thought they thought those were

682
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: long term relationship. I don't I don't I don't trust

683
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't trust Douglas to draft a quarterback. Do you

684
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: he took Zach Wilson second overfield in Jack. I mean,

685
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I think you can make a mistake. I don't think

686
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna get another chance to draft the quarterback. Let's

687
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: that way. So um yeah, I think. But you know,

688
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I think the Lamar thing, Lamar's missed a lot of

689
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: time to the last couple of years. I'm not the

690
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: biggest Lamar guy. I just I'm not just not. I think.

691
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, that's part of it. Um, I

692
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: just I just think there's something, a little something I had.

693
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he was unbelievable and what was the twenty

694
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: nineteen he was unbelievable, But I feel like I haven't

695
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: seen that since then. Quite. I don't know. I don't know.

696
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm not around them, but it's you know, I just

697
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just give everything up for him, And I

698
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: think you're seeing it. I think. I think I think

699
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be very reluctant to do fully guaranteed contracts,

700
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: even though teams were gave the fully guaranteed to de

701
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, who had like forty seven million sexual assault

702
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. You don't think I think there was one

703
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: team that was willing to do that, and I think

704
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: they sort of boxed themselves into a corner by flirting

705
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: with him and pissing off Baker and and they just

706
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: did it. But I don't think any. I don't think

707
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: any owners in the NFL were happy with the haslum

708
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: So that they did that. So so maybe there is

709
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: something to this whole clubbiness and not wanting to give up. Yeah,

710
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean the collusion there. I don't think these guys

711
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: are sitting in a room and going, oh, we're not

712
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: gonna do this, you know. I think it's just an

713
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: overall I don't think any and I think any owners

714
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: want to give a guarantee contracts to players, right, I don't.

715
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: But Brian, at some level, it's not like I don't

716
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: give a shit what that guy's doing with his contract.

717
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: I've got to do it's best for me and if

718
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: that's fine. A franchise quarterback which is toughest hell to do,

719
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: and the Jets haven't had one in fifty years. If

720
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: you want to give name of franchise quarterback status like

721
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go give a guarantee contract, right, I don't

722
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: think so. I think there's I think that will be

723
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: scared of the precedent. Like I think, like again, the

724
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: precedents in set, but further in that precedent. I don't

725
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: think anyone wants to do that now short term like

726
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: kerk Cousins, I think they would do it. What was

727
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins four years? Now? I think it was three

728
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: three fully guaranteed. So do we know if the Ravens,

729
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: I think you could do that. I just think going

730
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: five years is going to scare people. Do you know

731
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: if the Ravens have said we'll go three years fully guarantee,

732
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen that. I don't think

733
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: they have. I haven't seen that, but I don't know. Yeah,

734
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: how did your job change if Rogers comes this way?

735
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, are you just on the clock all the

736
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: time or they get on the clock all the time anyway,

737
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: But I think yeah, I mean, he's a like I said,

738
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: he's a celebrity, which is different than you know, covering

739
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: other guys. It's gonna be um, you know, if he's

740
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: going out to dinner in Manhattan and New York Post

741
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: is going to have photos of him. I'm sure of that,

742
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to deal with that aspect of it,

743
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of interesting. Like if

744
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: he talks every Wednesday, Jason, I'll be write him every

745
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: Wednesday Like that's he's he's one of those guys, you know,

746
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: like I was how it was with Farve. He wrote

747
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: him every week. So it's it'll be interesting. Um, you

748
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: know it's gonna make it It's gonna make it fun.

749
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna make it interesting. So let me

750
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: ask you this based on right now, not career legacy

751
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: all that crap. Give me, if Rogers goes to the Jets,

752
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: give me your five best starting quarterbacks in the AFC

753
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: in order say that one, five best quarterbacks right now

754
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: in the AFC if the Jets get Rogers, Jets get Rogers. Okay,

755
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomestris one, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, two, Justin Herbert Three.

756
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Oh over Josh Allen. I mean, I don't disagree with you,

757
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I go, I go over Josh Allen

758
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: and I'd say probably Josh Allen. Four. Okay, Now it

759
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: gets interesting because you've got hold on, hold on. You

760
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: got Russell Wilson, who's off a bad year. Yep, you

761
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: got Deshaun Watson off subpar year. Yep, I don't know

762
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: where you are on two. Uh, you got Trevor Lawrence,

763
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: who is ascending sending. Yeah, Um, I'd probably put Rodgers

764
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: ahead of all those guys. I probably put him Rogers.

765
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Rogers would be five. Yeah, I think five. Yeah, I

766
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: think that that's probably where I would slot him right now.

767
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: So if you're going into next season and I said, Brian,

768
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you can have Trevor Lawrence or Aaron Rodgers obviously you

769
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: you know what's it for for one game or for

770
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: the season. For the season, Yeah, I'd probably go Rodgers.

771
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: I'd been Trevor was a sad name, but I think

772
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm still haven't. I still need to

773
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: see a little bit more from Trevor. Can he Pickett?

774
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Just kidding? Mac Jones? I think Mac Jones is terrible. Um. Also,

775
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: by the way, Brian, any did you go to the Combine?

776
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I did? Um, the best story from the Combine that

777
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: you didn't write in the paper or put on social media,

778
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to share out here, Come on there,

779
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: I did. I did get to meet Derek Carr. Uh.

780
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I tracked Derek Carr down at his hotel and approached

781
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: him in front of the elevators, trying to get him

782
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: to talk to me. And was he friendly? He was

783
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: very friendly. Was he with like his family or with

784
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: like No, he was with a friend, and I kind

785
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: of just I hung out and waited for his him

786
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: and his friend to be done talking. And as he

787
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: got up an approached the elevator, I ran over to him,

788
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: introduced myself. I asked him if he would talk about

789
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: his meeting with the Jets. He said he really didn't

790
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: want to into that stuff. But um, I asked him,

791
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: you know when he thought the decision he made? He

792
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: said as soon as possible, So it was that was

793
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: That was my story of the combine. This fun very

794
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: reminiscent of knocking on Greg Maddox's door in nineteen ninety eight.

795
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at you. What a pull? Um, So

796
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I guess I can wrap up with this. Do you

797
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: think the Jets made an offer to Car or No? No,

798
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they did. I think I think the

799
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: Jets all along we're thinking Rogers, and I think Car

800
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: all along was thinking Saints, and I think the two

801
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: sides kind of used each other a little bit. Um

802
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: for convenience. I don't think it was ever really happening

803
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: with the car. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, I don't know.

804
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: As a Jets fan, I'm just as you could tell,

805
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not super in on this whole Roger's thing. I

806
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: know you, Dad, I'm surprised most of the Jets fans

807
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I've heard from are super in. Yeah, most of the

808
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: Jets fans you've heard from probably are not that smart.

809
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: Thirty nine Brian a thirty nine year old guy coming

810
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: off a bad season who's like a malcontent. It's kind

811
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: of wacky. What the hell, By the way, have you

812
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: been on a darkness retreat? Okay, go go tell your

813
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: wife that the new Jets quarterback this offseason one on

814
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: a darkness retreat and look at the reaction on her face.

815
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: She might be she might be interesting. Darkness retreat with

816
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: our kids are acting? You know? Oh the kids? Yes, yes, obviously,

817
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I think I don't know who's married with kids can

818
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: appreciate a darkness retreat. No, I don't want a darkness retreat.

819
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather be around the kids and chase them off

820
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: screens and stuff. That's fun, man, all right. Brian Costello,

821
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: New York Posts Good luck with Rogers if he comes

822
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: to New York, and if he doesn't, I mean, well,

823
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: there'll be a new coach next year. Who's to us?

824
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: Can they get the USC coach? Lincoln Riley? There you go, Yeah,

825
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: start that room right now. Yeah, definitely, all right, buddy,

826
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Take it easy, all right, Caldularry Jason's thanks. That's good man.

827
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, I'll talk to you later. Take

828
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: it easy by