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Speaker 1: Official Jets podcast is presented by bet Betting as a

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Speaker 1: team sport. But together at went about Eric Allen here

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Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive, joined by Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Of course, what were.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts leaving New England and the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you might think it was relief, excitement,

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Speaker 2: April and May and June and hard knocks and the

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Speaker 2: electric feeling of the first night. And there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of sadness. There was a lot of sadness for

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Speaker 2: the year that could have been, the year that was,

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Speaker 2: and just a loss of being out there on the

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Speaker 2: our perspective. It's informed by our perspective, and what we emphasize,

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Speaker 2: what we decide to look at, is going to inform

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Speaker 2: that reality. So I'm also really grateful for all the lessons,

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Speaker 2: for the relationships I formed my teammates and coaching staff

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Speaker 2: those relationships to people I didn't know back in April

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Speaker 2: that I now call close friends. The experiences, the laughs,

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Speaker 2: the jokes we had in the locker room, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful for the organization and the fan base, the

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Speaker 2: little nostalgic last night.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the best competitors in the history of

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Speaker 1: the sport. The last couple of weeks behind us out

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Speaker 1: onto practice field when you were running scout team, what

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Speaker 2: I've always loved run scout team. I mean, I grew

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Speaker 2: super bowl. Every single week was how can I get

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Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to dominate practice. So how

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Speaker 2: you know a little bit in the preseason when the

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Speaker 2: I genuinely love the practice. I genuinely love to compete.

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Speaker 2: And it was a good few weeks and if anybody

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Speaker 1: Did you have a bunch of what if moments out there?

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course yeah, And that's tough. It's a

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Speaker 2: of course you're thinking what could have been had I

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Speaker 2: For most of us, I know I do. But I'm

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, I'm broken hearted about it

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Speaker 1: Before we look ahead, can we look back to Week one?

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Speaker 1: You've mentioned it many times, coming out of the tunnel,

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Speaker 2: But it's been a few moments like that over my career,

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Speaker 2: There was a really cool night back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 2: I've never run out with anything in my hands. I've

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Speaker 1: What's got you most excited about what is inside here

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Speaker 2: Four, Well, it's every great team I've been a part of.

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Speaker 2: It has been high character. And through that high level

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Speaker 2: it's not just a high character, but you want characters.

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Speaker 2: You need the big personalities, you know, like the Q

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Speaker 2: And I think that's one thing that the organization does

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Speaker 1: Do you think people are going to be downing you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll find some some internal motivation from all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't need a whole lot. I've I've found ways

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Speaker 2: I think you'd feel like everybody's doubting you already because

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Speaker 2: I'll be back you know, on the table getting bodywork.

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Speaker 1: Robert Salaz said, he thinks you are on a mission.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to stop until that mission is complete.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain why you and Nathaniel Hackett worked so

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Speaker 2: We did this in twenty nineteen when Matt came in

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Speaker 2: This business is what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 2: And I just asked that you show up with the

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Speaker 2: of the rest. Aaron.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, good luck, You're continued rehab here

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Speaker 2: Will see I'll be back