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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Madison Wednesday. That

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Speaker 1: and he can do that. I think that was a

425
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: little against Washington. You know, all those dump ofsterkissic Vince

426
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: Williams looked kind of slow for the first time all year. Yes, yeah,

427
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: and I would I would prefer Gilbert be out there

428
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: in a dime package as opposed to Marcus Allen. Yes, yes, yes, uh,

429
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: and so I do think that, um, you know, the

430
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: Steelers are trying to um react to some of the circumstances, uh,

431
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: in a Steelers kind of way, which is, you know,

432
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: with what they have and within the program. Because as

433
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: much as many in Steelers Nation would love to see

434
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the team do, there's nothing out there right now that

435
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you can sign to fix anything, right, Yeah. I mean,

436
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: and Matt and I actually talked about Gilbert a little

437
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: bit last week because, uh, well a little Bertie told

438
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: me that this could be happening, and that was one

439
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: of the things that you know, you're looking at and

440
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: going you know, he's the closest guy that they have

441
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: athletically to Devon Bush at the inside linebacker position, covering

442
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: change in direction right, Um, but you know, knowing whether

443
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: he should be going left or right. Well yeah, I

444
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: mean that's you know, well and I get it. I

445
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: cannot imagine how complicated that particular position is. Yeah, I

446
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: mean we we talked about it, you know, with for example,

447
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: we've last year with Devin Bush, so he talked about

448
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: with Patrick Queen this year. I mean, if you're playing

449
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: inside linebacker in the NFL, as a young guy, you're

450
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: gonna get picked on, first of all, and and secondly,

451
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: you know you have to be you have to stop

452
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: to run. You gotta play man coverage. You gonna plays

453
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: own coverage. You're running crossers in front of you all

454
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: all over the place. It's it's a tough spot. All

455
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: the pre snap stuff they show at you, all the

456
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: run action and play action and crossers, like you said,

457
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: but in front and behind you. The route recognition certainly

458
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: a top recognition. And that's also a position where I

459
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: think some degree that coaches look for you to be

460
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: helping others be in the right spots. Um. And so

461
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: when you're a young guy who barely knows where he's where,

462
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be yourself. Yeah, you know, that's that's

463
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: a lot of paralysis by analysis, I'm sure, Bob. But

464
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: let's get to the the elephant in the room. That

465
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: would be, of course, the Steelers run game or lack thereo. Uh,

466
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: it's uh fifty seven yards on nineteen carries average over

467
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: the last five games. It was carries for a d

468
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: nineteen yards over the first seven games. Um, what what's

469
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: going on with this here? You know, they just don't

470
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: seem to be able to find any consistency in the

471
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: run game, and to my belief, it's you know, it's

472
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: because they don't try to do it. Well. There there's

473
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: a lot of UM. I think that anything anyone says

474
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: at this point is partially true because it isn't just

475
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: one thing. I don't believe that. Um. So yes, um

476
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: it definitely they don't stick with it and therefore they

477
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: can't develop it. Um. I don't think that the offensive

478
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: line is I don't know if they can't do it anymore,

479
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: but they aren't doing it now. I know that I

480
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: can see that. You know, or um J. C. Hass

481
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: an Hour is not um uh an asset in that respect.

482
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe Matt Feiler is an asset uh in

483
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: the run game as a guard. Um. Now, maybe a

484
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: pass protection, but I mean then you have that too.

485
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: And how long do you stick with a running game

486
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that's gaining one eight yards that carry when you have

487
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: to move the ball and convert their downs? I mean,

488
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: you can't ask the quarterback convert you know, third nine

489
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: or third and eight every time? Well you can if

490
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: you're dropping the football. Well, I mean there's that too, uh,

491
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I firmly anticipate, you know, that to

492
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: be handled by the quarterback, because, um, you know, you

493
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: just don't throw to that person. You know, you look

494
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: back at what Mike Tomlins said on Tuesday. Are some

495
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: of those guys going to continue to be on the

496
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: field if they can, if they continue to drop the football?

497
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Obviously love that you have enough guys in uniform, so

498
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: you put them out there, you just don't throw them

499
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: the ball. Uh, that that would be mine because how

500
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: many how many guys are in uniform? You know what

501
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, You're not gonna, uh, you're gonna not dress

502
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Ebron and dress Kevin Rader instead. I mean, I think

503
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: what you do is, um, you just don't. You don't

504
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: throw to him as much anymore, or throw advance or

505
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: McDonald or you know some some other things like that.

506
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I I but it's not like a college team where

507
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: you have ninety guys in uniform. Um, you know, if

508
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna run five wide or four plus one with

509
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Ebron being the one, we have six in uniform, maybe

510
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: six receivers in uniform. Um. So again that's what I

511
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: meant when I said that will be handled by the quarterback.

512
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: You can be on the field, you just don't get targeted.

513
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: And that the bob, in my opinion, is Deante Johnson

514
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: because he's obviously been a drop culprit lately, and of

515
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: the receivers, I don't trust his hands quite as much

516
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: as the others, but he's been the constant of when

517
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: he's on the field, he's always the guy that gets

518
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: talk and he makes the difficult catches some of the

519
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: easy ones that he drops. So you cut back thrown

520
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: to him, you know, that's that's a tough one. Well,

521
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, UM, it's it's kind of

522
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: a zero sum game to me. Uh you know, uh,

523
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: you can't bumble the ball if you're running back, and

524
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: you can't drop the ball if you're a receiver. Cannot happen.

525
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll give you one um a game

526
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: even uh uh in a situation like you two guys

527
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: just described, But I'm sorry to three that's it, um,

528
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: And you don't pull him. And it's not as bad

529
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: as a fumble with a running back because you don't

530
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: lose possession of the ball. But um, well, you can

531
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: drop the ball in the possession down or in the

532
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: red zone. I'm sorry, I don't you know, which did

533
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: for me two weeks ago. Doesn't mean anything at that point,

534
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know That's why I'm saying it almost

535
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: has to be handled instead of by the coach, by

536
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: the players on the field, especially the quarterback. I mean, um,

537
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I really don't see any other, any other, uh answer

538
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: solution to that kind of problem. BO. Have you mentioned

539
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: that the running back position Connor if we assume he's

540
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: not going to come back, or maybe you do get

541
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: him cheap, who knows, But do you think running back

542
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: is pretty high on the priority list? I mean, how

543
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: much do you blame that position? It would be nice

544
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: to have a receiver there that can do a little

545
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: bit everything, and you can make people missing gain yardage

546
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: on their own. I know a lot of people don't

547
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: invest heavily in backs, and I mostly believe in that.

548
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: But over the last few years, I think that position

549
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: has been exposed a little bit. I don't disagree, but

550
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I also I don't I don't believe that the offensive

551
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: line is pulling its weight in that area. I don't

552
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: know that Anthony McFarland or Benny Snell is as bad

553
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: as they have looked. I just I don't see. Um,

554
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: they're just they're just aren't holes. They're just aren't there's

555
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: no movement off the line of scrimmage. And you know,

556
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: you look at those guys too, and there's some high pedigreed,

557
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: very highly paid individuals on that offensive line. And I

558
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: get that. You know, Ben doesn't get sacked and all

559
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, and that's that's part of

560
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: the job too, but it's only part of the job.

561
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: And um, you know, I I just it seems to

562
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: me that uh, there's a law out of I won't

563
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: say excuse making because that's taking it a little too far,

564
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: but you know, we're shining the light on some of

565
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: the other aspects of the running game. And I don't disagree,

566
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: you know that. I don't know that. You know, James

567
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Conner is the bell cow running back that you want

568
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: to try to make a Super Bowl run with. But

569
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I do think he is a serviceable NFL player. He

570
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: is certainly not as bad as his statistics have been lately.

571
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: And so to me, Um, you know, there can be

572
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: some issues with UH play design, maybe, but there there

573
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: are just too many instances where you know, five cracks

574
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: from the one yard line. Seriously, seriously, from the one

575
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: yard line. No, you didn't get a push at all.

576
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: There were It was constantly bleeding into the Steelers backfield.

577
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: And yes, Washington's defensive front is good and all that stuff,

578
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: but I mean there's just too many guy eyes with

579
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and all pros on the resume who are

580
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: not getting any movement none. And the one thing I'd

581
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: say o Connor though Bob is maybe he's not a

582
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: star in anyone area, but he's not a liability in

583
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: any you know, protection catching the ball short yardage. You know,

584
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: that's exactly. Uh, He's certainly not as bad as the

585
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: Steelers running game is making him look. Uh. And you

586
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: know the you know, the whole um Munchak's gone, and

587
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these excuses. Only one team

588
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: has Mike Munchak and a lot of remind people as well,

589
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the munch acts last year with the Steelers, the average

590
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: ninety rushing yards per game. You know, so there's that too, Uh,

591
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: you know the whole And I'll be honest with you too.

592
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: I was not a big fan of the you know,

593
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: the Matt Annaday influence, jet sweeps and all that kind

594
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, uh, that can work as a compliment.

595
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: But that was becoming for me for my taste anyway,

596
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: too much of a steady diet. And you're not gonna

597
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: fool people. I don't think consistently in the NFL with

598
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: your running game. So um, you know I'm looking at

599
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: the line. I mean, Eric Ebron can't block me. He's

600
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: a receivable. I understand that. But if he's gonna um,

601
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: then then get him off the field. Sometimes ye asking

602
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: him to block Chase Young, or attempt to block Chase Young,

603
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: or pretend to try to block Chase Young at the

604
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: goal line, because there was I I watched that play

605
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: several times that the fourth down play at the goal line.

606
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: The line actually got to push on that play, except

607
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: he missed his block and Chase Young comes in untouched

608
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: and and and gets Benny Snell from behind, and they can't.

609
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: He never gets off the ground on his leap, and

610
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the offensive a linement on that side are laying in

611
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: the end zone with their guys in the end zone.

612
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: He could have walked into the end zone if Chase

613
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Young is blocked on that plane. Where I was going

614
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: with that is you wouldn't ask Juju or Washington to

615
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: do it. And really that's Abron style of game. He's

616
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: closer to those. I would trust those guys to do

617
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: it more than he may be, quite frank, or if

618
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: if it was Chase Claypool, I would I would trust

619
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: those guys to at least get a chip on that guy,

620
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: not just allow him to come charging into the backfield unblocked.

621
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I mean again, but if you're going

622
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: to be a tight end, that's part of your job.

623
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, doubt again on that play. What's a I'm

624
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: sorry McDonald on the field. I don't believe that he was. No,

625
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: because if that's what it has to be, even that's

626
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: what it has to be too. You know, when you

627
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: want to run the ball, you have one tight end,

628
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: and we want to throw the ball, you put the

629
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: other one in because um, you know has shown you

630
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: over the course of twelve games that he can't block right,

631
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: and he's and the other thing is and again he's

632
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: done some good things, but he's a big part of

633
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the drop past this problem too, which was his resume

634
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: before he came here, Um that he will drop the ball,

635
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: and so now we're seeing that. And so you know,

636
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Speaker 1: if if you know, I don't know what the answer

637
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: is Gerald Hawkins to me is you know, one of

638
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: the under um under appreciated or injuries in my mind

639
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: was Zack Banner. Because Zack Banner, it could do that. Um,

640
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, third tight end thing or blocking you know,

641
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: Taco eligible or whatever however you want to refer to

642
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: that position. Uh, Hawkins is awful. I mean, he's just

643
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: not athletic. He's not. And throwing him the ball or

644
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: trying to throw him the ball was. I can't understand

645
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: the thinking that comes to the conclusion this is a

646
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: good thing to try in that situation. Now, I'm with

647
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: you on that. I'm right there at the same time. Um,

648
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, splitting Anthony McFarland out wide on fourth down

649
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: with the game on the line and trying to throw

650
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: him a back shoulder fade down the field. The guy

651
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: has five career catches. You've got receivers to do those

652
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: kind of things. Well, I took that one a little

653
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: differently though. I thought it was we know who John

654
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Bostick is. I'm throwing it in sure, absolutely, but the

655
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: guy you do it not fourth and one right, fourth

656
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: and one. I'm not doing that, you know. And um,

657
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't believe this either. I don't

658
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: think that when a play is called, a quarterback maybe

659
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks, but not the Steelers quarterback is locked in

660
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: the throne at the one guy correct out. Okay, so um,

661
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: you know that's that's one of those situations. And again

662
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to hang this on Ben,

663
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: but if, um, you know, if if you get the

664
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: sense that it has to be a back shoulder throat

665
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: deep down the sideline, I'm not throwing it to him.

666
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, there was a kid that we grew up with.

667
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, we called him Smitty. You didn't throw the

668
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: ball to Smitty. I mean you knew that. We apologize

669
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: if you're listening to um, so you know, there's all

670
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: kinds of things that are kind of uh conspiring to

671
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: come together to make this look bad. Um. And I

672
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know, like I said, I just um, if if

673
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you got if you got it, if you've got a

674
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: platoon tight ends, do it, if you've gotta Um, I

675
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I won't say simplify it because I don't

676
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: know how much how complicated it is, but you know,

677
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: just get some push off the line and move the

678
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: pile a little bit uh, you know, and plow it

679
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: up in there because you know, again Benny Snell, you

680
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: know he he has showed me at least some that

681
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: he can be the kind of guy who can help

682
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: close out a game. You know, he's a tough runner,

683
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't go down. Um. You know, he has a

684
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: lot of extra effort that kind of stuff. If he's

685
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: not getting anything anything, there's nothing there to get in

686
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: my opinion, So uh, you know I'm looking yes, if

687
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: you didn't get him, if he gets nothing, the blocking

688
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: wasn't for um. And as I said, too many first

689
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: team All Pro resumes and a lot of cash being

690
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: spent on those guys, and I'm not seeing it last

691
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: thing I have and just Samuel's Hawkins and now I

692
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: think Ray Ray McLeod. I don't know that they need

693
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: to be on the field of offense anymore. Somebody goods

694
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: on the sideline if they're out there, yes, um, and

695
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: you know that. And that's the other thing. Um, you know,

696
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: we don't need to play with all the toys, just

697
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: play with the ones that you can rely on the

698
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: script and do what you do best. Yeah, and uh,

699
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to because you know Ben doesn't have

700
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: to worry about targeting everybody to keep everybody involved. And

701
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: if Deante Johnson and I love the guy, you know,

702
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: I believe that he is and I mean this as

703
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: a compliment. He is the closest thing to Antonio Brown

704
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: that this group has. And by that I mean a

705
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: guy who consists who can consistently line up and defeat

706
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: NFL caliber cornerbacks one on one, win those one on

707
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 1: one matchups, and that is a valuable thing, and it's

708
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: it's it's a talent. But if he's going to drop

709
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: a couple, I'm not throwing it to him anymore for

710
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: a while. Maybe that gets his attention, I don't know,

711
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: but you just cannot have that, or you don't put

712
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: him in so many situations on third nine where you're

713
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: throwing him a two yard pass and expecting him to

714
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: run for the first down. Because that's the problem too.

715
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: That's teaching him bad habits in my opinion, because he

716
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: now is believing that he has expected to make it

717
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: happen yards after catch every time. And if that's what

718
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: he has in his head, he's gonna turn his head

719
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: and look, you know, he's gonna be trying to run

720
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: before he secures the catch. So, um, there's just a

721
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: lot of little things I think, um, that are going

722
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: wrong right now. It's it's unfortunate in my mind that

723
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: this is this is Uh. I will still believe it's

724
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: the toughest opponent on their schedule coming up, because I

725
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: don't know that a lot of you're gonna fix a

726
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: lot of things against this kind of team. Well, we'll

727
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: see how that works out on Sunday. He is Bob Labriolo.

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00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate you stopping bye, Bob, of course with Steelers

729
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: dot Com and Steelers Digest. Uh. He's Matt Williams and

730
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

731
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take your break and be

732
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: back right after this your tunes about drive home of

733
00:42:35,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: the Black and Goals. Steelers Nation Radio, Welcome back. I'm

734
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: Dale Lully here with Matt Williamson, and this will be

735
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: a quick quick segment here since we kept Bob a

736
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: little extra here, but I do have a Bill's practice

737
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: report from today. Um, not practicing today for Buffalo or

738
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson. He has a hip issue. He's a depth

739
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: quality defensive right right. That's kind of how their are

740
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: D lines they get. Yeah. Yeah, Jokwon Johnson, one of

741
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: their safeties with an ankle injury, did not practice. UM.

742
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts, one of their depth wide receivers, he's got

743
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: an achilles was limited today. UM. Jake from not injury related,

744
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: that was limited today. I don't know what that means.

745
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but I don't know what what that means.

746
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: He's not injury related, but he was limited. UM and

747
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: then uh, also on the list injury list were Josh

748
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: Allen and John Feliciano. Feliciano is a guard. He's got

749
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: a knee and foot injury. Uh. Alan's got knee and ankles.

750
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: But they were both full participants in practice. State. Now,

751
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: I wonder how hard they practiced today because they played

752
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: Monday night as the Steelers practice. Today was not. It

753
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: was a hat day. Yeah, it was a hat day.

754
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the Bills are in the same coming

755
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: off a win. Um. They were on the road, Yeah,

756
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: they were in They were in Yeah, in Arizona against

757
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Um. You mentioned Feliciano. Their old lines kind

758
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: of built like their D line where they have two

759
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: off seasons ago they went with the Patriots month, like

760
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: what the Patriots do it at the wide receiver position

761
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: two years ago. Just get a whole bunch of veteran

762
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: guys to see who works. Bought a bunch of three

763
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: million dollar dudes or five million dollar guys. Is drafted

764
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Cody Ford in the second round and there's no stars,

765
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of guys, you know. And that's

766
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of how their d line is too. And Feliciano's

767
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: exactly that. Sum Ford was actually the guy who who

768
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: went on. He hasn't been great for them. I thought

769
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: he'd be better. He's an early second round pick. He's

770
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of a guard tackle tweener that hasn't really acclimated

771
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: that well to the league. Mitch Morris is probably their

772
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: best teaser center and they got him from the Chiefs

773
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs have missed him. Brian Winners is okay.

774
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: You know again, they're a well coached, decent group. There's

775
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: no real holes, but it's okay. Yeah. Um, anyways, we're

776
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. How about that come back When

777
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: when we do come back, we're gonna have the fantasy

778
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: football focus. We will do that right after this. He's

779
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lilly. You're listening to The

780
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio's The Drive with Dale Lolly

781
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and Goal

782
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: s n R. Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back, I'm Dale

783
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: Are you here with Matt Williamson. It's time for the

784
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Focus. It's Wednesday. Uh, so we'll go through

785
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: the injury list, who is practicing, who is not practicing today,

786
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: get through all the injury reports and uh start in

787
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: Chicago where Allen Robinson, with a knee injury, was limited

788
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: and Wednesday's practice that cropped up late last week. He

789
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: still managed to go out and catch six passes for

790
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: seventy five yards on seven targets against the Lions. He's

791
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: playing Houston this week. That's a good matchup, and so

792
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: you want Allen Robinson ready to go. So I don't

793
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: care if he doesn't practice, and I'm not really worried

794
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: about it either. I think it's probably the smart move

795
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: by the Bears. They're they've been so horrible, but they're

796
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: not in hanging up mode yet or anything. You know,

797
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: They're they're still in it, still in it kind of

798
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, you know, they're playing Houston this week.

799
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they could get it back here. They could

800
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: be in that game. Probably not. Yeah, Watson versus Mitch

801
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: their offense actually been better with Trabisky than he. Well,

802
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: you wonder how much of that those matchup driven those well,

803
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's been bad and really bad. Yeah. Laviska

804
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: chenalt Uh was held out. He was limited today with

805
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: a thumb injury. Um scored his first touchdown since Week

806
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: one last week against the Vikings. But Glennon is gonna

807
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: be a quarterback, and again they they're not been Okay,

808
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh he's fine, He's not horrible. UM, I honestly think

809
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: that they don't want Minshew out there because he might

810
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: win one for him, you know at this point is

811
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: great or anything, but their intentions are not to win

812
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: football games. So chinnult from he's pretty down the list

813
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: of somebody I want to start. I agree, Uh, this

814
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: is one that is significant. James Robinson, with the knee injury,

815
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: was limited in Wednesday's practice. Um, he wonder if they

816
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: would sit him if it's close, because he's good. He's

817
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: averaging four point three touches per game over his last

818
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: six games. Maybe you back it off a little bit

819
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: on him and say, hey, we you know, that's what

820
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: I was thinking, because he could help you win, which

821
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: you don't want. He gets the ball. A Ton is

822
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: both a runner and a receiver. I really think with

823
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: all their needs, he's pretty much locked in. As they're

824
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: running back next year, you know, like some of these

825
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: running backs have taken such a beating like him a

826
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: great time to show on show on the bench for

827
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. So when in doubt, I would sit

828
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: him if I were the Jags. Yeah, we'll see. I

829
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll I mean, I think Marone. They're

830
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: still playing hard. Oh they are. They in game except

831
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: the game. They've been right in games for a while. Yeah,

832
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: they're playing Tennessee this week, and of course Tennessee's dealing

833
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: with some stuff as well. Johnny Smith was limited in

834
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice. We'll see what happens with him. He did not. Uh,

835
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: he missed all practices last week. So this is actually

836
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: an upgrade for him. Tennessee's defense and somebody you want

837
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: to play your guys absolutely they stink. Yeah. Uh. A

838
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: j Brown with an ankle now not practicing on Wednesday.

839
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: He had been sitting out with a hip on Thursdays. Well,

840
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: now he's missed an entire practice on Wednesday with that

841
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: ankle injury. He twisted that. Uh he did come back

842
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: after twisting the ankle. But again that's what it was

843
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: a bad If you watched it, I'm like, oh, that hurts.

844
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I've done that before. You're you're actually you're running and

845
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: you end up on the side of your foot. Um.

846
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: You know when when that when the ball of your

847
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: foot on your on your ball of your ankle touching

848
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: the ground, that's not a good thing. It does. Yeah,

849
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: you can you finish again, You finish that game and

850
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: then you take the shoe off and the and the

851
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: ankle goes boom. Yeah right, I've done that plays too,

852
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: And Corey Davis was a benefactor and he's a good player.

853
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: I love a j Brown, but he hasn't been the

854
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: league two years, and he always has a little something.

855
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Wednesdays he's missing his years. Um,

856
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs was sidelined at Wednesday's practice. Um, another one

857
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: always has something. Yeah, I mean he just runs so hard.

858
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: But that's one to keep an eye on. Um. Obviously

859
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: they got to get back in the lineup. Yeah, they

860
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: need to win. He's much better than they're playing. Who

861
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: is it this week? The Colts? Yeah, I believe that's Yeah,

862
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: that could be kind of an elimination game. Yeah, you're right,

863
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: especially if the Raiders lose. I mean it's kind of

864
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: the Raiders lose, they're done. If the Raiders win. In

865
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the Colts lose, now they're tied with the Raiders and

866
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders have that head to head now, I think

867
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: this is what you save Jacob's up for. If and

868
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: he really is a tough dude, I bet he plays. Yeah,

869
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: I would. I would be willing to bet as well.

870
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: But I wanted her that that we have a monster

871
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: day though. No, no, I don't think so. All Sean

872
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: Jeoffrey with the calf, was limited in Wednesday's practice. He's

873
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: not He's not a factor at all. I mean that

874
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: whole receiving corps. This is garbage. It's bad. But they're

875
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: all playing equal snaps down, you know, like and fold

876
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: them out there and build something. Looks like he's lost

877
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: complete confidence and now there's a new quarterback. But I

878
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: know al Sean can't play anymore. I know that much.

879
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: At least I think there's a coaching change there. They

880
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: look like they don't have any clue what they're doing

881
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: in the offense. The Ravens activated Mark Andrews from the

882
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list, so he will probably play Monday night

883
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: against against the Brown's Matthew Judeon also activated from there

884
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: from the COVID nineteen. These things are looking up for

885
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I mean, they handled Dallas and the Houses

886
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: run defense was bad. Yeah, I still my questions about

887
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: Lamar as a passer, you know, I mean didn't have

888
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: to do anything last night. But I think the Ravens

889
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: are coming around nicely. Yeah. That Monday night game, I

890
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: believe is in Cleveland. I believe we've seen weather be

891
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: a factor in Cleveland's weather is not going to affect

892
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: the Ravens. That game could be over in like two hours. Yeah,

893
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be run, run, run. Who does stealer fans

894
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: road for in that one? The Ravens. I think so.

895
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: But I don't want the Ravens in the playoffs. That

896
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. Doesn't know that. I wouldn't want them

897
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: to be my first because you know, if you get

898
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: the number one seed and the Ravens sneak into the playoffs.

899
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: Is the I don't know this, the seventh, the seven

900
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: or six, and they gotta go play Kansas City, Yeah, okay,

901
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: and they have no success against those guys. Yeah, but

902
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: they'll beat them up. I'm also not super worried to

903
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland goin the division. No I'm not. I'm not concerned.

904
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: But I want them to get in the playoffs. But

905
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: you want them in the playoffs. They're going to be

906
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Where the other So you know, I

907
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I I just think Baltimore has I think

908
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: there's a you don't I think if you're Steelers and

909
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: you don't want the Browns getting any more confidence saying

910
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: you don't want them saying, hey, look we can beat Baltimore.

911
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: We can be Pittsburgh. I could also see Baltimore winning

912
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: their last five, starting last night and playing well right

913
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: when it matters most, and you we'll see. I still

914
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: think they have some issues that are that are fatal.

915
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson with returned to practice on Wednesday. He had

916
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: been on I R that backfield is just a mess.

917
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: Is the guy and none of the other guys are

918
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: worth you can't they although they still got Blage touches. Yeah,

919
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: they did last week. I mean they like him, and

920
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: he's actually played much better than I expected. I don't

921
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: mean to be hard on him because he's he succeeded

922
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Eclars was going to catch a ton of ball, But

923
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you know, well, first of all,

924
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: just coming back from my R doesn't mean you're gonna

925
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: come back and play um. So they get a twenty

926
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: one day window to return with for him to return.

927
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that he back at this point. Yeah,

928
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: they don't. I'm not sure he would be unless somebody

929
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: else gets hurt. Kelly's in total after although I think

930
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: they're absolutely coaching for their jobs out there, and I

931
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna and I don't think it's gonna work. Yeah,

932
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was limited at Wednesday's practice. That's a that's

933
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: a good song for them. They're in first place in

934
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: the division. Yeah, they're doing good things. Yeah, and I

935
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: think he's better than Colt McCoy. I'm pretty sure of that.

936
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I have some encouragement for Daniel Jones, like

937
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I think he'll be their starter next year. I didn't

938
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: like him coming out of school. Would take me a

939
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: while to come around on him, and he gets some

940
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: flaws too, but he's one of these young quarterbacks actually

941
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: getting better. Yeah. Um. Irv Smith, with a back injury,

942
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: remains sidelined for the the Minnesota Vikings. That makes Rudolf

943
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: for elevance. Yeah, that's a hard guy for me to start.

944
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: You hate him. But he also did not practice Wednesday. Um,

945
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: that's probably the old guy thing. Um. Christian McCaffrey with

946
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: the shoulder and quad was limited at Wednesday's practice. That's

947
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: a huge one for fantasy purposes. I mean when he

948
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: when he came back the first time, there was a

949
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: lot of talk of they might ease him in. They did.

950
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: They didn't just give him a million touches coming off

951
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: a bye. I'd be blown away if he doesn't play.

952
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean their season is pretty shot and you can

953
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: shot running backs down. But I would get him out

954
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: there this week and feed him like crazy. Yeah. Uh Deebo.

955
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: Samuel's has a foot issue, the sayings a bruise foot.

956
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: It's not related to the broken foot that he had

957
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: in during the summer. But he did not practice today.

958
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: He's a quality player that gets a lot of targets

959
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: and another one of those guys because he runs, you know,

960
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: he's he's so physical. He's always banged down. Yeah, always

961
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 1: banged up with a lot of stress on his lower

962
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: body and plays hard and doesn't avoid contact. Meanwhile, Brandon

963
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: has been really useful. Good Yeah for fantasy. Yeah, they

964
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: get a good those two and Kiddle can never be

965
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: healthy together front after that or if they had a quarterback.

966
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: If I were them, I would go I'd offer the

967
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: Lions the first round pick for Matthew Stafford were you know,

968
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: why why not take it? You know, shot him Wentz

969
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: or something like that, Yeah, Donald even or yeah, yeah,

970
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: I think they'll be movement there. Uh. Joe Mixon. Zach

971
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: Taylor said on Wednesday he ruled Joe Mixon out for

972
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: Week four team, but said there's a possibility he plays

973
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: again this season. What are you doing right? Not bringing

974
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: him back? And I feel like he could have played

975
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: a month ago. If he's not practicing now, you're not

976
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: bringing him back? No that that that makes no sense,

977
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: no sense? Yeah, season shot. I mean this is the

978
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: same guy who last last year kept saying that A. J.

979
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: Green was like, oh he could be he could be

980
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: back this week. Yeah, he's not come on, yeah, uh

981
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: Salvon Achmed uh with no, I don't want him there

982
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: that offense, it's awful. So none of their good none

983
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: of their guys are playable, no, including Boyd. Yeah. Uh,

984
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Salvon Achmed uh uh with the shoulder injury did not

985
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: practice this week. Myles Gaskin is the guy. He's the guy, right,

986
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he took his joy, his rollback over, got

987
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of gold line carries. Of course, didn't score,

988
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: have allergic to the end zone. But he's a quality

989
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: RB two and gonna get you twenty touches they throw

990
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: it him. Yeah, it's really bad. Yeah, and they play

991
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City this week, which doesn't hurts. You should be

992
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: you should be able to run the fool on the field.

993
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers with a toe injury did not practice today.

994
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: That's mate. Then he has supposedly as some offseason surgery.

995
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: He needs to get on his foot. Yeah, that's been

996
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: something that's been going on the last couple of weeks.

997
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: If you thought he was statuesque before, ye talk about

998
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: team that you're putting offering for Stafford to Yeah, he's

999
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: another one that you've seen a lot of wins to

1000
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: the Colts perfect. Yeah, Frank Rigs probably look at him going,

1001
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: I can fix him, I can fix him. You guys

1002
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: played well for me, right right? Um Chris Godwin with

1003
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: a finger. Uh he had depends removed from that broken

1004
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: left index finger on Tuesday. Uh. So they're gonna let

1005
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: that hell up a little bit there. Yeah, they're coming off.

1006
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: They're coming up, yeah right, coming off to buy Um.

1007
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: That could be a thing where he doesn't practice all

1008
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: week while they try to let that hell up a

1009
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't have it in front of me,

1010
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: but they have a very favorable three games edual here

1011
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: that I think all those guys, I mean on the

1012
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: box again, they've let me down a lot. I just

1013
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of trust them to beat up on some bad

1014
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: teams here. In the Fantasy playoffs, Denzel Mims had to

1015
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: leave the team and go back home to UH Texas

1016
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: for a for some personal issues. Hope everything's all right there,

1017
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: but he will not play against Seattle this week because

1018
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: once you leave the team like that, you gotta come

1019
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: back in five days or Yeah, this year, you can't

1020
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: do that. You can't just go and then come back

1021
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: because you're not getting tested. I guess that helps Crowder

1022
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: and Perriman. Crowder we two touchdown passes last week. When

1023
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: plays Crowder relevant? Yes, that's relevant. Uh. DeAndre Swift, with

1024
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: an illness now, was limited at Wednesday's practice. Some of

1025
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: these rookie backs have been so hard to get behind him.

1026
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: Right when you think they do, then the COVID hits

1027
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: or a bye week guard injury or whatever. I really

1028
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: like the way Swift looks, though. I mean, I'd love

1029
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: to have him next year. That's the thing with pretty

1030
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: much all these rookie backs. Yeah, next year is going

1031
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: to be really good years. Um. Kenny Golladay with the

1032
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: hip injury, did not practice on Wednesday. You're rushing him

1033
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: back the same situation. But he's a free agent. He

1034
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: may want to put some more tape. He might want

1035
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: to put something out there. Yeah. Drew Brees is targeting

1036
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: a week fifteen return, according to Ian Rappaport, that would

1037
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: bring him back just in time to play the Chiefs.

1038
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: I bet he's losing his mind on the sidelines right

1039
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: now because this is probably it for him. This is

1040
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: probably for him. You want to be out there playing, Yeah,

1041
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: And I would imagine they'll welcome back with open arms

1042
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 1: and Tayom Hill will still get snaps here and they're

1043
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: like they used to, but Freeze is much better. Um.

1044
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: Rashaan Higgins, the Browns have apparently opened the contract extension

1045
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: talks with him. Uh, we'll see where that goes. Um.

1046
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I know that's not super noteworthy, but yeah, they're showing

1047
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: faith in him, and that's that, you know, because they're

1048
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: winning without Odell, went without him. I think Higgins might

1049
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: be there too next year and going forward, draft a

1050
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: guy in the second round, throw him to mix something

1051
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: like that. They may move on from Odell, which the

1052
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Giants weren't too hesitant to do that. I think he

1053
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: might be better. Every team might be better off without him,

1054
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: and sort of an ad like manner. See where he

1055
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: goes next year. The Bengals placed the left tackle Jonah

1056
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Williams on injured reserve. They're just falling apart in the league. Yeah,

1057
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson is unlikely to play this week against the

1058
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: forty niners. Uh, that means it's j D. Mckissic and

1059
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Barber and as we saw both Monday, as we

1060
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: saw Monday night, Mkissic will catch the football million. Yeah. Yeah,

1061
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean we'll wrack up a ton of yards, but

1062
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: he'll have eight catches, twelve catches, something like that. Yeah.

1063
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get peppered with targets. It'll be

1064
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: double digits, and Barbara will do the running back and

1065
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Barbara will get the the you know, the touches, very

1066
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: distinct roles. Yeah, so keep an eye on that. I

1067
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: think mckissic is probably the more valuable guy and PPRR

1068
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: even even in regular probably still because you might not score,

1069
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: Barbara might score touchdown, but mckissic is going to be

1070
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: the guy who gets Hill have seventy total yards and

1071
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Barbara will have fifty. And I would think Washington's defense

1072
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: will keep him in that game and they'll be able

1073
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: to run and they do what they do. Yeh. That's

1074
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Speaker 1: going to do it for the fantasy football focus. He

1075
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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a

1077
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: break and we'll be back right after this, your tuned

1078
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: about drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

1079
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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Looking back, I'm dl l E here with

1080
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt Earlier when we were talking to

1081
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Bob labry old Um, he said this will be the

1082
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: Steelers the buff of this being the Buffalo Bills would

1083
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: be the Steelers toughest opponent yet this season. I thought

1084
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: that was interesting. I don't I don't agree with that

1085
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: said it, and then I thought about it, and I'm

1086
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: not sure I disagree or agree. I gotta think that over.

1087
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking here at Buffalo's d v O A on

1088
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders, Uh, their ninth in d v O A,

1089
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: right behind Baltimore, who have continually sunk in. They've gone

1090
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: down the list a little bit, and maybe they're moving up.

1091
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens the first time around, I think

1092
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: a pretty high. They were like they were like second, right,

1093
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: they were ahead of the Steelers. In fact, I think

1094
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: at that Yeah, now that was still taking at that

1095
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: point in the season. Some of last year we're still Yeah.

1096
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: Now you're looking at more of a uh what your

1097
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: team is this year at this point in the season. So, yeah,

1098
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: they're they're a plus twelve point seven. Uh, last week

1099
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: they were eleventh. They've moved up to ninth after that win.

1100
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: They're trending in the right direction. And again they really

1101
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: should have won six in a row. If it wasn't

1102
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: for the hail, Murray still gave it up. They it was.

1103
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: That was the last highlight for Arizona this season. For them,

1104
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: it's been Yeah, they've gone the other way. Uh. The

1105
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: Steeler Corps second uh in d v o A at

1106
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: twenty six point four. Buffalo comes in at twelve point

1107
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: seven UM. The Steelers offense is now seventeen. There is

1108
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: zero there. They even stephen a league average offense, and

1109
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: I bet people were shocked by that, Like, boy, this

1110
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: offense stinks. So you've got all these problems. It's been

1111
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: pretty darn good most of the year and they put

1112
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: up a lot of numbers. The passing game has been

1113
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: really good. It's been a down two weeks, but that's

1114
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: not enough to drop you that far, and it shouldn't know. Uh,

1115
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo is seventh and dvo offensive they're there plus eleven

1116
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: UM defensive d v o A. Hell ever, there's sixteen.

1117
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: They're a one positive one point eight, which you want

1118
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: to be. YEA zero is league average and they're slightly

1119
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: below average defensively. The Steelers are I thought they'd be

1120
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 1: lower than that as well. Yeah, Steelers are number one again.

1121
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: I think some of that though you played the Jets twice.

1122
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: You played the Jets Jets twice, in the Patriots once

1123
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins who have Yeah, so, um, you know,

1124
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that that numbers particularly indicative production. Yeah. Uh,

1125
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: special teams, Buffalo comes in at number five at three

1126
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: point five. The Steelers are twelve at one point five,

1127
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: So not a lot of difference there, So they're pretty close.

1128
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: So you have a team that is really good on

1129
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: above average on offense in Buffalo, yes, without a question. Yeah,

1130
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: against the number one defense. You have a team that

1131
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: is average on offense against a below average defense. I

1132
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: would classify them all the same and flows slightly better.

1133
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: On special teams lately, it's just slightly the special team's ranks.

1134
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: When I write up a game or preview a game,

1135
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: I just look for a dramatic difference. I mean, honestly,

1136
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: seven verse fifteen, five verses twenty eight. If it's you know,

1137
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: the Charger special teams and the Titans special teams and

1138
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: didn't you take this, keep an eye eye for that.

1139
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: But I definitely think it's not worthy that there are

1140
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: top five units on that side of the ball. I mean,

1141
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: they're a well coached team. Buffalo's past schedule is twenty

1142
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 1: six in the league. Who they face? Who they faced,

1143
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the thirty feet. The team that has played

1144
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule in the league, the Miami Dolphins. That

1145
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: makes a little bit of casey schedules, Actually thirty that

1146
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: makes sense to Yeah, this this is the thing when

1147
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: people start talking, well, they're not as good as they're

1148
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, who have they beaten? All this stuff? If

1149
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: you look up and down the line, A lot of

1150
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: these good teams, a lot of teams that have racked

1151
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: up a lot of wins, haven't they don't play it.

1152
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: They don't play themselves, you know, So that takes that

1153
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: off the schedule. They dominate their division like good teams,

1154
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So if we're looking

1155
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: here at the teams that have played the toughest schedules

1156
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: this year, it's Denver, Chicago, Tampa Bay. Okay, Tampa Bay's

1157
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: they you know, they're they're a good team, but they're

1158
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 1: they've played a hard schedule. They've lost to the good ones,

1159
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: and they've lost again other than beating Green Bay and

1160
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: the Bears beat them when the Bears were not so horrible,

1161
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: but you know, San Francisco, Carolina, Houston, Atlanta, Detroit. There's

1162
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: a common theme here. These are all the bad teams.

1163
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: They don't play themselves, they don't play themselves right, and

1164
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: they are good enough that they don't have last played schedules.

1165
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: You know, they're not the Fagles and Jags in those things.

1166
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: The teams that have played the easiest schedule this year, Miami, Pittsburgh,

1167
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Indianapolis, Washington, Cleveland, Buffalo, Cincinnati. Uh, Miami really

1168
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: adds up. Yeah, I mean, I know that. I think

1169
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: their second on defense and points allowed, a couple of

1170
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: big categories behind the Steelers. They're starting to creep in

1171
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: the converse station, a lot of turnovers, really good on

1172
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: special teams. They played garbage. They've really played some bad teams,

1173
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: and I have all respect in the world for them.

1174
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: I think coach Flora should be in the Coach of

1175
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: the Year conversation. I thought they were six or seven

1176
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: win team and they're gonna go to the playoffs. But

1177
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet against him in the first round the playoffs,

1178
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt at all about that. Yeah. Um,

1179
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: so that that's that, you know. So I think I

1180
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: think they're a good team. You're talking about Miami or Buffalo.

1181
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: Talking about Buffalo, I think they're a good football team.

1182
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: I think they can beat They can beat the Steelers

1183
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: on on Sunday. Both of both those teams play their

1184
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: best game, they can beat the Steelers. It's not like

1185
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: they need the Steelers to kill themselves, you know, like

1186
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: Washington needs to Steelers to kill themselves, you know, right,

1187
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: Um now, the Steelers need to play better than what

1188
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: they've done the last two weeks. But if they come

1189
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: out and play their A game, they're probably they probably win,

1190
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: probably because they're a game on defense is better than anyone. Yeah,

1191
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: but they're missing some dudes on that side. They're missing

1192
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: some guys or that's the that's the things. So let's

1193
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: go over as we do every week depth chart. Who

1194
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: do we like better? Okay, so an offense at the

1195
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, it's Gabriel Davis, Cold Beasley, Steffon Diggs.

1196
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: Diggs is the best player on the game. And if

1197
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: Brown was there, I think I would take Buffalo. I

1198
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: really like John Brown, but he's not what we got.

1199
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Steelers. Yeah, I mean, I'll

1200
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: take Washington over Davis. Yeah. The depth guys are Jake

1201
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: Kumero and Isaiah Mackenzie. They're just Mackenzie's kind of there.

1202
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis is just a guy. Mackenzie is like there.

1203
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: McLoud Yeah, and he I think he scored this past

1204
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: week and they handed it to him or shoveled into

1205
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: him or something. You know. But that's a good group.

1206
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: It's not bad healthy, it's a really good group. Uh.

1207
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: At the off On the offensive line, it's Dion Dawkins

1208
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: at left tackle, John Feliciano at left guard. We'll see

1209
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: whether he's able to get it together and play this week.

1210
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: Mitch Morrise at center, Brian Winners at right guard, and

1211
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams at right tackle. I think it's a conversation.

1212
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: I mean, again, there's not a lot of week this

1213
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: is there. They have some depth. Um, if you say

1214
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: pounds he's playing, I'll take the Steelers playing. So, I mean,

1215
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: obviously the Steelers one blocking is well known, but this

1216
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: group isn't exactly malling people in the run game. Right. Yeah,

1217
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: they're not doing a great job there either. But that's

1218
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: a conversation. It's not in a slam document tight end

1219
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: it's Dawson Knox, Tyler Croft, Lee Smith, Reggie Gillham. Lee

1220
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: Smith is a tackle. Yeah, and I like Knox. I'll

1221
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 1: still take the steel The Steelers could actually use a

1222
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: Lee Smith. They could use at Lee Smith. I mean

1223
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: he would be a much better version of Gerald Hawkins

1224
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: who can actually run a five yard out and catch

1225
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: the ball. And yeah, they could use a Leae Smith.

1226
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: Bad Jerald Hawkins doesn't need to see the field anymore.

1227
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 1: Bob's alright about that. And I like Knox. Um ebron

1228
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: is what he is, but he's the best player of

1229
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,480
Speaker 1: all the tight ends of this game. Yeah. Um Quarterback,

1230
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: it's Josh Allen, Matt Barkley, Jake from I'm gonna take

1231
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: the Bills all respect the bat, and he's really good.

1232
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: But Allen's playing well has been better this year. And

1233
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: it's not just because of those around to him. I

1234
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: mean he's carrying the carrying the water running back and

1235
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: this was with the James Conners. Now back, you got

1236
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Sack Moss, t j Yelton, Taiwan Jones. Singletary

1237
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me, and I'm not a huge fan.

1238
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: I didn't like him coming out of school because he's

1239
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: not big, he's not strong, he's not fast, but he

1240
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: has remarkable vision and balance. He doesn't really get the ground. Yeah,

1241
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he does some good things without great traits

1242
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: that are obvious. And I think you and I both

1243
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: liked Moss a lot. He's fumbled, was in the doghouse,

1244
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: and he's missed some time. I would trade their room

1245
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: for Steelers room, I would agree. Yeah, I would agree

1246
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: with that. Um. So overall, he's probably lean a little

1247
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: towards that Bill's offense, I guess. I mean, especially because

1248
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: things like receiver and O line were close. You know

1249
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, You know, the ones that the Steelers

1250
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: one and even tight ends on a slam dunk. UH.

1251
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: Defensively on the defensive line, it left end. It's Jerry Hughes.

1252
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: The two defensive tackles are Ed Oliver and Quinton Jefferson,

1253
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: who's on the injury list this week. Mario Addison is

1254
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: the other defensive end. UH coming off the bench a

1255
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,520
Speaker 1: gat Harrison, Phillips, and Burn and Butler on the inside.

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: The rookie ages Epinezza and Trent Murphy coming off the

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 1: bench on the outside. They use eight you know it's

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01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: it's two hockey lines basically. And I'll still take the

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: still take the Steelers front even without Bud. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Steelers are the three best players, yes,

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01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: without question. If you were ranking the defensive lineman in

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01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: this game, the Steelers have one to three and Lou

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: and Lou will be in the mix somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, I'm interested to watch Oliver More.

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a really explosive, undersized Um, I want

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Speaker 1: to be Aaron Donald. Yeah, he's Aaron Donald light Yeah,

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: but he's got ability. Um. Linebacker Mario Addison, tremin Tremaine

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: Edmonds and Matt Milano there guys, yeah by far, and

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: and Edmonds hasn't come around like I thought. I thought

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: he might be the best linebacker in the league by now.

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: But him and Milano are a really good pay. Yeah.

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01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: The Steelers would like one of those guys right now

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: in a big way. Here's where it gets interesting because

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01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: if we were picking guys from this cornerbacks trade, devious

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: White would be number one first round pick. But then

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: then the Steelers like that would having like the next

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: five guys. I think the first round pick next you

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01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: will be a corner. Yeah, you know, like people don't

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: throw it White because they're slot guys. Don't have to uh,

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01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: the slot guys to Ron Johnson, uh tevious White and

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, who is not just stinks. Yeah he's I

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: think I'll take the Steelers. Yeah, I would take the

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: Steelers there, even Hayden's. Even without Hayden, I would take

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: a Steelers because Nelson's gonna play. Hilton gives you some

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01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: stuff there, you know, and you still have Sutton, and

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01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: it's Lane's your third or four or your fourth or fifth. Yeah,

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01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean Lane might be their starter. He Lane will

1288
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: be starting for them. Yeah, I mean, and everyone killed.

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: I have White, but especially at that position, I think

1290
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: I'd rather have three bees than one A And because

1291
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: we just don't throw it right, you know what I mean.

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: It goes back. I think you sent it to me

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: today that the defense secondaries rankings and they had we

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't get We haven't done it. Maybe we'll do that

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: in the next segment. But they had the Steelers with

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: the number one secondary. Yeah, in the league, because you

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: look at the overall talent. Now, before the season started,

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01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: we might have said, uh, the safety position Jordan Jordan

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: Poyer and Micah Hyde are maybe one of the best

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01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: safety doers in the league. I'll take what the Steelers

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: have right now. I'm torn on that one. And it's

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01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: another one that Minka's one Edmonds is for. But Edmonds

1303
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: is better than I think Edmonds. Edmonds is closed the converence,

1304
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: like if we have had this conversation before the season started, you, okay,

1305
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: Minka is an A UM, you know, maybeer and hide

1306
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: or birth bes and Edmonds is a C. Well, now

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: Edmonds is a B minus and and yeah they've not

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: been as good now maybe they're B minuses. They're really

1309
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: intricral in this defense because they do a great job

1310
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: at disguising coverages. And these two are very interchangeable. They

1311
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: both have a corner background. They're a really good pair.

1312
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: But it hasn't been their best year, and Edmonds has

1313
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: gotten better. People have thrown all over these yeah right right,

1314
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: and these guys haven't you know, been the answer so much.

1315
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: But they're really good. They'rem excited to watch them. But

1316
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 1: to Manka carries a lot of water in this conversation, especially,

1317
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: I mean, Alan's gonna throw the ball deep, Yes, he

1318
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: will throw the ball deep, and he will. You know,

1319
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: this could be a game where Minka gets some go

1320
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: get some shots. Alan's played really well, but he still

1321
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: puts the ball in Harm's way and there's an aggressive

1322
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: passer and think it could get his hands on the ball. YEA, yeah,

1323
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, so um pretty even though I

1324
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: mean it's it's pretty comparable rosters. Yeah, it's not. It's

1325
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: not a slam dunk, but that's what you would expect

1326
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: when you you know, this is what you're gonna see

1327
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right right, That's what you're gonna see.

1328
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: So uh be interesting. We'll take a look at those

1329
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: the secondary rankings. We'll do that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Alli. You're listening to

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. You are tunes

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: about drive Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and

1334
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: Matt that you sent me. This is an article by

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01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen on ESPN dot com. Uh, and he went

1336
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: over the top secondaries and looked at secondaries, uh, individual players,

1337
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: the best teams, all that stuff. Ranking, Yeah, ranking the

1338
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: secondaries around the league and he had the Steelers secondary

1339
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: ranked first in the league. Here, it's hard to argue it.

1340
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: They get their hands on the football. Um, they're not

1341
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: allowing a lot of passing yards, even though they did

1342
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: uh this past week number one in in in QBR,

1343
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: which is what ESPN measures for the quarterbacks. That's their

1344
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: passer rating from a pass rush. And it's hard to

1345
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: separate those things. But we just talked about the two

1346
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: safeties are a high quality group with star power, and

1347
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: they have five corners. They can play. You know, not

1348
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: everybody does. Not everybody does at all. Honorable mention for

1349
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: him in that respect was the ram secondary. I think

1350
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: Ramsey's the best defensive back in the league. And that's

1351
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 1: what he says that the most complete cornerback is Jalen Ramsey,

1352
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: according to uh Matt Bowen. Um hard to argue that.

1353
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: He's been really good this year and he can come

1354
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: down and play in the box. I mean they move

1355
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: them all over sometimes or it'll just shut down the

1356
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: number one receiver like a DK Metcalf. I mean, he's

1357
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: really really good. Number two on his listen and I

1358
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: would have him in my top five. I don't know

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01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: if he's number one because maybe it's because I've seen

1360
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: him twice and he's he's getting a little grabby. He's

1361
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: gotten past interference penalties in both games. But that's Marlon Humphrey.

1362
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: He does a lot of good stuff and you can

1363
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: you can move them into the slot. It's invaluable. A

1364
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: lot of those guys don't. But both times they've played

1365
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers, he's gotten big past interference penalties. Then you

1366
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: know that whole secondary could be a little grabby. They're

1367
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: certainly lean towards me. I don't know who I would

1368
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: have ahead of him, thinking is I haven't given this

1369
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: much thought, and I don't know it's a golden age

1370
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks because really it's really difficult to play the position.

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01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: And I like Humphrey a lot, right, Um, I mean

1372
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: even like the Latin Wore's have been a little bit down.

1373
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: And something you know today is White has been really good.

1374
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: I thought he was number two last year, but I

1375
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: didn't have a Stephon Gilmore hasn't hasn't been Stephon Gilmore

1376
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, shutdown corners don't really exist. They don't.

1377
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't know, it just doesn't. It's too hard. Um,

1378
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: best monster back this is never heard of this monster

1379
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: back before. But he's saying Jamal Adams, um best linebacker

1380
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: playing safety. Yeah, he's not a safety, he's not he's

1381
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: not a secondary player. He's just he's a linebackers. He's

1382
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: a blitzer, he's a run player, he's an enforcer, brings

1383
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of energys only better. He's better. Yeah, but

1384
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: that's what Oh yeah, absolutely, Edmonds is better than better

1385
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: in coverage. Um his number two of the honorable mentions

1386
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin from the Panthers. He's been really good. Yeah,

1387
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: but everybody has one of those guys now, the big

1388
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: six ft two fifteen pounds Simmons and you know a

1389
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: lot of these type of dudes, right, it's a valuable guy.

1390
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of those guys will play man

1391
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: coverage on tight ends or running backs. They blitz a lot.

1392
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 1: Paula Malho was ahead of his time that way. Carnell

1393
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: Lake was ahead of his time. At those guys. Are

1394
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: people love that Lake right now? Yeah? Uh, he's a

1395
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: defensive back. He would love to coach. That would be

1396
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker coach, by the way, that would be Buddha Baker. Yeah,

1397
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: he's leaves it all out there. I really loved him

1398
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: coming out. He's just undersized. He's a highest face safety

1399
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: and league all of a sudden. Yeah, he's He's very

1400
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: very much like Mike Hilton. Yeah. You could do a

1401
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: lot of different like a lot of different things with him,

1402
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: absolutely and bring that same mentality. Yeah. His honorable mention,

1403
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: there is a C. J. Gardner Johnson of the Saints,

1404
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: except he's like the dirtiest player in the league and

1405
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: nobody seems to like him and yeah even his own teammates. Yeah, yeah,

1406
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe too hard something. Yeah, Bowen is a tough guy,

1407
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: old school type of Yeah, this guy might have been

1408
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: in the conversation for uh maybe one second best cornerback

1409
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: defensive back I'd like to see in a different scheme, Ja,

1410
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: your Alexander. I think he has emerged that number two. Yeah,

1411
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: he's been really good this year. He's been really good,

1412
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: and it seems like his best football is ahead of

1413
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: him and he's getting there quick too. He's been very

1414
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: very good for them. Um. Yeah, he's really good. Um.

1415
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: His honorable mention, there's Denzel Ward. Yeah, Okay, I'm not

1416
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: sure why you want him in a different scheme. I'd

1417
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: have to study that more. But uh, he's a good

1418
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: young player, that's for sure. Yeah. Well, whatever they're doing

1419
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: scheme wise doesn't necessarily work all the time for him.

1420
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: But now he's been he now he's a good player. Yeah.

1421
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: Biggest hitter Jonathan Abram. Yeah almost a fault yeah yeah,

1422
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean he'll swing and miss. He'll swing and hurt

1423
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: himself a lot of penalties. Like the game has changed

1424
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, he's a raider, but I mean

1425
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: he's Jack Tatum. Doesn't fly anymore, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1426
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: he can't play that way. He can't. His number two

1427
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: is honorable mention on that one is Ray Shawn Jenkins

1428
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: of the Chargers. Okay, not not a household name. Best

1429
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: coverage technique, true as white. Yeah he is a technician

1430
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: really because he doesn't run well. No, he's not a burner.

1431
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest too, right, he's a smart player. Yeah.

1432
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: Honorable mentions to find Gilmore. Yeah he's so long too. Yeah,

1433
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: he gives him just problems across the board. Um, best

1434
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: cornerback ball hawk Xavian Howard. It's not a bad one.

1435
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: I'd actually think about Marcus Peters too, for better or worse.

1436
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: But he attacks the ball in the air. Um. His

1437
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: honorable mentions. There are Darius Williams of the Rams who's

1438
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 1: been he gets pepper but with a lot of targets,

1439
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: so you better, you better catch the ball, um and J. C.

1440
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 1: Jackson and the Patriots same thing. Yeah, another one. Ball

1441
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: skills are important and not all corners out. I mean

1442
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the whole Uh. You know, when

1443
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: the Steelers had Willie Williams and he led to I

1444
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: think he was just like he had like seven or

1445
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: eight interceptions one year. We're playing opposite Rob Woodson. You're

1446
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get pepper with targets and if

1447
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: he catches some of them, you're gonna look pretty good.

1448
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: It really helps, yeah, right, uh, And that's all part

1449
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: of the game too, like yeah, yeah, And there's some

1450
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: really good corners. I mean, like Taylor comes to mind,

1451
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: and don't have the ball skills. You know, they still

1452
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: don't hold him in best safety ball Hawkatrick he was,

1453
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 1: he was the guy. Um, you know if you look

1454
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: at it. Uh, since they got him in Week three

1455
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: of last year's nine interceptions, Yeah, he's still not. I

1456
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: think he's still learning as a deep free safety. Like

1457
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: that's he's he's he might the best days might still be,

1458
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: but he's always around the balls so well read, plays

1459
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: plays it well in the air, just kind of has

1460
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: an innate ability to read. It's almost like a rebounder

1461
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: like Dennis Rodman, like not the biggest guy, but they

1462
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: just they read where the book. I see the ball,

1463
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: I see the trajectory, and I'm gonna read it and

1464
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: here's where it's gonna be at and low and behold.

1465
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: That's where it comes down at it Like great hockey

1466
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: analysis always used to say about Gretzky that he goes

1467
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: where the puck is gonna be, where a lot of

1468
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: people are chasing it. You know, like that type of idea,

1469
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: that kind of instead of watching the ball in the air,

1470
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: you know where you immediately know where it's going to

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01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: be at. I bet like outfielders are like that. Some

1472
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: of them just go to where it's gonna be because

1473
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: it's easy for him. Number two is Justin Simmons. M Okay,

1474
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 1: he's been a really good safety for them. Um best

1475
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback Jalen Johnson are the Bears. Oh, he's had

1476
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: a good year. C J. Henderson started strong then off, Uh,

1477
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: Kuda hasn't been great. I really like Dakuda coming out

1478
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: of school. Yeah, his honorable mention, Um Lugarius sneed of

1479
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I haven't watched him, he's not I've watched him,

1480
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's okay, but their secondary stinks good.

1481
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: It's been a bad rookie defensive class. He really has

1482
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: um best rookie safety Chin. If you're gonna call him

1483
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: a safety, I guess, he says Julian Blackman. Oh, he's

1484
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: been good too, Yeah, he really has. Coming to Utah Utah,

1485
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: Winfield has been good. He's the honorable mention and that Um,

1486
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: I guess Chin's a monster backer or he's a monster back.

1487
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: He's down in the down in the in the in

1488
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: the trenches. But Blackman has been pretty good. You know,

1489
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: they play a lot of cover too, so he has

1490
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to be you know, has to be that guy or

1491
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: he's somebody will see in a couple of weeks. Yeah,

1492
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: he's had a really good year for them. Best range

1493
01:23:54,680 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: for defensive backs, Okay, Jesse Bates, Yeah, he's been good

1494
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: this year. Last year and not so much. Yeah, alright,

1495
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: he keeps getting better. Certainly a bright spot on a

1496
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: bad team. Yeah, he reads the ball. Well. Honorable mention

1497
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: in that one is Darnell Savage. He covers a lot

1498
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: of He covers a lot of ground, and he could

1499
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: have been a Steeler if they didn't trade that for Bush.

1500
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: That was he was I think going to be a

1501
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: Steeler they hadn't traded for Bush. A little smaller, but

1502
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: he's all over the He's a missile. Yeah, yeah, he

1503
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: could have been. He could have been there in the

1504
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: biggest hitters too. Yeah, I mean especially pound for pound. Yeah,

1505
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 1: and he brings it. Most versatile defensive back Tyram Matthew

1506
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: that's a good one too. Yeah, plays a slide. Buddha

1507
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Bakers said they're almost the same guyer or safety. Yeah. Yeah.

1508
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: His honorable mention is Jordan Player. Yeah. They ask a

1509
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,520
Speaker 1: lot of those guys. Yeah. Again they have corner backgrounds

1510
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: and right. Yeah, best split field safety Okay, John Johnson

1511
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: and the Rams. I didn't say the baby the Vikings guys. Uh, Well,

1512
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith is the mention. Yeah, Johnson has been good

1513
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: to The Rams have some guys on defense that people

1514
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: don't know about. Well, they better because they're not they're

1515
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: paying the stars at the two Studs best slot cornerback

1516
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: is it Hilton Marlon Humphrey. It's kind of cheating. It's

1517
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: kind of cheating because he plays outside when they're in there.

1518
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: You know, I look at I would have defined that

1519
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: as somebody isn't on the field. It doesn't. Yeah, he

1520
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: just comes on in the nickel and dime situations more

1521
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: from the Colts as good as well. He's there. Yeah,

1522
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: he's the he is the uh the the honorable mention there,

1523
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: so best slot safety man. You know you're really stretching here.

1524
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: But now he's got Gardner Johnson. Okay, he does a

1525
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: lot for them too. Yeah, he plays all over the place.

1526
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: And the honorable mention Buddha Baker. It's similar. Yeah, best

1527
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: safety run defender. Slot safety was not a thing five

1528
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: years ago. No, I remember when the Steelers moved Seawan

1529
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Davis into this slot when his rookie years Like, oh,

1530
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: you're taking us now he had cornerback background in college,

1531
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: but you're taking us a guy you drafted as a safety.

1532
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: You're playing him in this slot then? And I get

1533
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: it because you see so many tight ends in the yeah, right,

1534
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: so you better be able to do that. The problem

1535
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: is is if you're too big of a guy, you

1536
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: can't run with the little fellas. Yeah, lots coming, all

1537
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. Yeah, you see Tyreek killing that's why

1538
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: you see. I mean the Steelers over the years of

1539
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:21,839
Speaker 1: mixed Sutton and Hilton in there as well. Best run safety,

1540
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: best safety run defender. Justin Simmons is the guy. He's

1541
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: really a good player too. I mean he was a

1542
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: franchise tag guy. Micah Hyde is the honorable mention. Okay,

1543
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna see him too. Yeah, very dependable,

1544
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: best cornerback, run defender. I would even know. This has

1545
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: been something that the Steelers would have liked five years ago.

1546
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Not so much now. But I think Joe Hayden could

1547
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: have been. He's pretty good. Hilton's pretty good too. Yeah.

1548
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 1: Um yeah, Trey Flowers gets the nod there. Carlton Davis,

1549
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah, best zone technique winner back. Wow,

1550
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: he's getting really really yeah really getting down the list

1551
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: here is Avier Rhodes. Yeah, he's really redeemed himselves. It

1552
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: doesn't move like he used to, but us his length

1553
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: and his technique and kind of he reinvented himself like

1554
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, did a couple of years ago. Yeah, you're

1555
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: playing a lot of his own you know, you you're

1556
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: smart enough to, yeah, realize what you have to do.

1557
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 1: James Bradberry the honorable mention. Yeah, best playmaking traits Marcus Peters,

1558
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: he is a playmaker. Yes, both, you have both sides

1559
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, he'll give him up and he'll make

1560
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: him for these categories that the honorable mentions Genorris Jenkins. Yeah,

1561
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: he's taking a lot of risks his career. Yeah, best

1562
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: transition speed Jason Varette. Yeah, coming back from injuries, he said,

1563
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: really loose hips turn and you can see why he

1564
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: was a number one draft pick. Yeah. Absolutely, he just

1565
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: said wouldn't be able to stay healthy. Denzel Award number Yeah, yeah,

1566
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I said ending talent. Tray Von Mullen. He used to

1567
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: high pick on him. He's starting to come around. Uh.

1568
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: The honorable mention there is Nick need him of the Dolphins. Yeah,

1569
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: he does don't play a time, but yeah, he's more

1570
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: of a safety, but under radar defensive back. To know,

1571
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: he's already had some of these guys on his dues already.

1572
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm Mony Hooker the Titans. Okay, yeah, he's mid round pick.

1573
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: That's coming along. Well. Bowen's also an Iowa guy, now

1574
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, yeah, Iowa safety. Uh. The honorable

1575
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: mentions Cameron Curl of the Washington football team. We just

1576
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: saw him last week. Yeah, they like him a lot.

1577
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: DeAndre Houston Carson of the Bears. I don't know much

1578
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: about him. Keep an eye on him, but I didn't

1579
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: know anything about him. Yeah. So that's Uh, that's Matt

1580
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Bowen's secondary list. Couple of Steelers mentioned on their A

1581
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: couple of Bills mentioned on there. Actually three Bills mentioned

1582
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: on there's um. Yeah, they have three really good guys

1583
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: and and stay in their secondary hasn't been great Steelers have. UM.

1584
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Bowen's work though.

1585
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 1: I mean he goes pretty deep there. He went really

1586
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: deep there. And I watched the NFL Matchup show with

1587
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: him in great coat on it every week. He started

1588
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: taking that over too, so he knows his stuff, especially

1589
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: defensive back stuff. Yeah. It's gonna be interesting again to

1590
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: see this this matchup this week. Uh, Steelers and Bills,

1591
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: um Sunday night in a Buffalo. Yeah, it's gonna be

1592
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: a great one playoff type atmosphere. I guess the Bills

1593
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: are wearing their color Rush uniforms for the game, so

1594
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: it'll be all on red. You have any idea with

1595
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: their fans are allowed or they're not allowed any zero fans.

1596
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that's New York. But yeah, there would be some

1597
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: weather though it could be uh yes, chili, maybe a

1598
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: little bit of rain in the in the in the area.

1599
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: So kind always always is. Yeah, So that's uh, that's

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01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: a situation. Great game. I'm looking forward to it. Um,

1601
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, after seeing a couple of you know, sloppy

1602
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: type opponents and the Steelers. I'm also looking forward to

1603
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Spy as well. Yeah, that's the thing I'm looking forward to.

1604
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if night games are fine. Um, you know,

1605
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: they're expected a little difficult, but you know, but they're expected.

1606
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: You expect to play a night game. You don't expect

1607
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: to play at three o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday

1608
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: or you know, five o'clock on a Monday. That's not

1609
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: what's expected. No, it's not. So there you have it. Yeah,

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01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. We want to

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Speaker 1: thank Jacob Direct on site here for keeping us on

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Speaker 1: the ever. We want to thank our special guest Bob Labriola,

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01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: who joins us every Wednesday as well, and we want

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Speaker 1: to thank you for listening to this edition of the

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