WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Lacing Up Every Sunday 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.080 Cowboys. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:17.520 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:23.000 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:30.360 Heckma Harrison, and Newi Scrugs. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.599 Go time right here at the SWBC podcast studios at 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.479 the world headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys. This show is 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.160 the Players Louds, brought to you by Aristocrat Game, Barry Church, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.080 he Ma Harrison. Here I am new he Scruggs. It 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.080 is Wednesday, the Cowboys getting ready to host the Philadelphia 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:52.320 Eagles at AT and T Stadium on November tenth. And 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.480 here we are, guys, eleven months into the twenty twenty 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.360 four year, an election has happened in the cow Boys 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.120 have yet to win a home game. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.200 Think of everything, and it is happened this year. That's wow. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.480 I just thought that's why Cowboys have not won a 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.679 whole game? Wow? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:10.840 Wow? 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:11.920 Yeah? 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.280 Man, was it when they just like was the last 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:19.000 season was fourteenth straight or something crazy? 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:23.160 And then ever since then, that's wild. Yeah, that's that's 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.080 a that's a yeah. So was that one and that's 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.320 that's wild. Right there, man. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.760 So the Eagles are favored in this football game. The 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:36.160 Cowboys have won five of the last six meetings against Philadelphia, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.120 believe it or not, six straight home games against the Eagles, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.720 and that's their sixth longest active win streak in that series. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.800 Michael Parsons has missed six weeks of action. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:51.040 The Cowboys outstanding pass rush specialists, their best defensive player. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:57.680 He practiced today, we did, okay, So Michael Parsons could 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.920 be back in the lineup for the cow Boys against 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.920 the Eagles. Is Jalen Hurts who uses his legs tush 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.840 push is coming to town, gentlemen, m m oh so, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.280 Michaeh potentially being bad. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.880 Look, look, any time you can get you know, a 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.320 guy at the caliber of Michael Parsons back. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.840 Into your lineup, it's beneficial. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.160 It's gonna help this defense out, you know, whatever the 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.160 case may be, whether it's generating pressure, you know, taking 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.560 on double teams, triple teams, and allowing other guys to 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.320 eat out there, he's gonna make be a positive for 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.480 this defense if he's able to go in this game 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.160 against Philadelphia. Now, when I look at it, will I 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.040 do I think he's gonna be the Bazukah of old, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.119 you know, one hundred percent Bzuka where he's out there. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.160 You know, even if it's double triple team, still getting 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.519 to the quarterback, I'm not so sure, you know, coming 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.040 out of a high inkles spraying. All it takes is 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.480 one you know, wrong step or trip over somebody else 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.120 and that thing's reaggravated. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.400 I mean, high inklesprays are a tough thing to deal with. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.120 So but I still believe, you know, seventy five eighty 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.960 percent of Michael Parsons is still what you want on 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.200 the football field, especially going against an offense as potent 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.760 as Philadelphia, because I mean, as you see, Kellen Moore 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.520 has those guys rolling right now, whether it's the quarterback 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.720 run sakwuon Barkley doing his thing out there, and of 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.360 course you got the dangerous receivers on the outside, Smith 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.240 and aj Brown, So you gotta be able to generate 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.280 pressure somewhere. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.040 I like what I saw from was at Carl Lawson 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:14.760 last week. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.680 He was able to get two sacks out there, beating 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.440 his one on one opportunities out there, and with Parsons 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.680 on the field as well, he should be able to 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.119 generate more of those one on one opportunities. So that's 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.760 just at least one other guy that can go out 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.320 there and win for you defensively. But to me overall, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.239 having Parsons back in the lineup, it's got to be 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.520 a positive for the Cowboys if he's able. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.480 To go, And Barry said, all, I mean, that's for me. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.240 It's the only other angle I'm looking at. Is this 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.119 for the offensive coordinator on the other side, you now 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.400 have to account for his talent. So we do understand 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.160 that teams that have come into games versus Cowboys where 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.400 Michael was playing, they had to scheme for him, roll 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.600 coverage his way, do a lot of different things to 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.480 make sure that he's not disruptive. I questioned the percentage 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.120 he plays with, and we're going to get eighty five 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.480 seventy five. Where is he because you know how high 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.360 innklesplit sprains just kind of disabled a lot of players. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.520 I mean, that athleticism, that quickness, those are one of 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.080 the things that really just that's his game. That's who 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:10.880 he is in the nutshell, and you're used to seeing 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.760 him fly around. If he's playing at eighty five percent 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.200 of himself already in a position to where he's undersized 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.400 that the officers will take advantage of that, you know. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.880 And so my question is in from the beginning, how 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.600 is Mike gonna use him? You know, Mike Zimmer, How 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.440 is Mike gonna use him? Is Mike gonna have him 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.919 to stand up at the end where he has to 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.600 take on blockers, because that in that situation, I think 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.039 that's where you get to the reaggravation. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:36.920 That's what you get. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.560 Tell Okay, I'm stepping on a guy, or am I 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.000 using him as a gap blitzes and my using him 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.279 in other disguise looks and things like that where I 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.360 know they're gonna have to count for him, Because then 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.159 that's where it starts to open up things for guys 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.880 like Demarvi and Overshawn. That's where you get an opportunity 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.520 to see more of Eric Kendricks. That's where the defense 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.840 some of your defensive linemen that have been struggling now 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.520 may not have to deal with the double teams that 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.880 they've been dealing with because now they have to relegate 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.479 the extra guy to go towards number eleven. Again, I 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.839 just asked myself what percentage of Michael are we getting 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.479 back and it's going to be like a he's gonna 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:14.800 highlight on some packages, you know. So look, having him 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.719 back back can't hurt this team, that's for sure. This 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.479 defense is struggling mightily, and you have a Philadelphia Eagles 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.160 team that's gonna come in here with a running game 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.000 that is going to try and take advantage of you. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.960 At every corner. All right, they are. They're gonna run 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:29.440 up the clock. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.200 They want a ground and pound, and I ain't even 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.200 worried about the touch pushing at this point. I don't 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.560 think they'll be in the thirty one. I don't think 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.120 they'll be in a position to do that unless they 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.600 get down to the goal liner, you know how they 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.839 like to operate down there. But you know it can't hurt. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:49.000 We absolutely need our guys back. I mean Droan Bland. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.360 We need more, I mean Tank Lawrence, we need Marshaun Neeland. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.360 We need guys to come back, come back healthy, and 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.920 be able to help this defense because right now, there's 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.640 nothing you can hang your hat on going into this matchup. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.880 You gotta be able, and I know this is not 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.880 a big part of Zim's scheme, but you gotta kind 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.240 of take a page out of that DQ book, and 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.440 I believe you gotta run some games with him. You 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.480 gotta run some stunts, whether it's a defensive end d 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.279 tackle stunt. You can't just have a man line up 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.040 and try to rest a quarterback from the outside just 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.200 for that high inkle sprain. I just think if you 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.840 run a little bit of games with him, have him 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.000 twist inside, have him start on the outside to snap 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:27.920 the ball, run a t east stunt, come back around 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.320 on the inside, it'll just it'll just leave a lot 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.719 of that pressure and keep him away from Lane Johnson. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.320 Just keep him away from Lane Johnson. That dude right 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.800 there is a beast on that left side. And we 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.839 know they've had their battles back and forth, and there's 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.120 sometimes when Parsons is one hundred percent, he's given Lane 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.560 Johnson all he wants, but right now not being one 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:45.440 hundred percent, keep. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.320 Him away from there. But I gotta I'm with you 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:47.599 on this. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.960 You zim has to find a way to still use 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.360 him as that chess piece, whether it's you know, off 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.400 the edge, doing a teat stunt, kind lining them up 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:56.880 over the center and let them have a two way 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:57.240 go on. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.440 That guy but you gotta use him as a chessea. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.039 Because if you just line them up on one side, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.160 Philly's gonna see that and they're gonna say, oh, let's 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.720 test him out. We go just run straight at him. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.400 Ain't gonna let him use that speed to chase down 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.880 same Barkley from the backside. Let's just run straight at 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.400 him and see how the ankle holds up. You got 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.280 to be able to move around, in my opinion. 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:20.320 If the Cowboys get behind you, Negate what you're the 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.400 best of Michael Parsonson, and that's been that's been in 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.000 it at home this year, that's been an issue. I mean, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.400 we've seen games basically be decided before halftime show. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:33.320 That is fact. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.240 So they've got at least you got at least be 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.760 in the game so you can make it effective. And 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.960 was it one or two years ago when Sirianni just 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:48.440 ran Riot at Parsons and it wasn't pretty. It was 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.200 not pretty at all. You start to think about the 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.880 Cowboys rushing offenses improved. It's now thirty first eighty two 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.000 yards a game. And the Eagles on the other side, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.160 my gosh, they're number two, one seventy four man. So 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.240 we're you know, in some ways what has killed you 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.400 all year long. This is this is the kind of 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.760 matchup that you hate to see. They're gonna run the ball, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.960 and they're gonna use time and possession against you. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.760 You can't run the ball. That's a fact. That is 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.720 a fact. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:20.040 You know. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.320 God bless Michael Parsons. He's a football player. He's not 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.600 a magician. And there's just so much help that you 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:31.200 need here that I don't he'll help because he's Michael Parsons. Yeah, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.000 but brother, it's only so much you can do. There's 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.439 just so many there're's so many holes here. You could 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.800 plug one here, but then there's something else that's popping over. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.719 I mean, it's just so much that I I. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.520 And we ain't even talking about the back end. You know, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.120 this is this is a team you know was that 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.920 last week. It's Atlanta who Drake London only played in 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.199 what the first two series. I believe Kirk Cousins only 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.160 missed six passes three touchdowns. And now if AJ Brown 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.440 is able to go, because I know he's a little 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.600 bit questionable, you know, coming off that knee injury last week. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.439 But you got Aj Brown top three five receiver in 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.480 the National Football League, paired with the slim reaper Deavonte 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.000 Smith on the outside as well. You don't, thank goodness, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.600 I don't believe God is gonna be able to play, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.079 hopefully not. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.800 But I mean this offense right now, man, it's like 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:16.760 which way you want it. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.080 We can either get you with the run, yeah, or 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.440 get you with the play action. And we got the 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.880 receivers on the outside to do damage. Oh by the way, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.160 we got a quarterback that if everything is locked up, man, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:28.800 he can escape. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:29.160 Yeah. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.240 Back in front end. We've talked about that, and I 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.040 think that's where you've been missing. I've been asking my 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.520 questions to you because I think I know football well 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.360 enough to know how it's supposed to work when you're 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.680 in the three four or four to three. But again, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.840 that's why I point to Michael Harson's being up there 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.720 and what offensive lines have to direct their attention to. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.160 I think he plugs a lot of those holes for us. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:54.400 But I think offensively, what Philadelphia presents is that running 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:55.880 game that you just said is number two in the 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.880 league behind the I'm just guessing that it's Baltimore. But 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.439 the way that that works, I believe with especially when 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.680 I look at Baltimore, I think the effectiveness of Derrick 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.360 Henry is the fact that everybody's looking at Lamar Jackson 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.520 like he can burn us too well. Philadelphia kind of 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.640 gives you that same dynamic, right that you understand that 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.160 Jalen Hurst, for all of his deficiencies as a quarterback, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.400 one thing he can do is run the football, and 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.640 so Saque and him is peanut, butter and jelly. How 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.559 that offense works together and it threatens so many parts 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.440 of your defense. You have to try and get pressure 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.440 with your front four. We haven't been able to do that. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.760 You go back to that Atlanta game. Kirk Cousins was 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.080 comfortable in the pocket. He was able to sit back 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.200 and find guys like Drake London because. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.480 He had all day to operate. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.680 Well, if you got another guy out there that's worrying you, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.280 concerning you, that's putting pressure on you, If Michael can 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.400 come back and do that, I think that changes at 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.800 least that dynamic of when the time clock goes off 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.000 in your head when you have to get rid of 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.960 the ball, and that helps your guys on the back end. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.840 Can this defense disguise in Europeiac. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.360 Because we've seen I mean, it's like these quarterbacks are 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.200 sitting up at the line and they're going, all right, well, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.559 they're in this coverage, Like I just you gotta have 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.160 a little bit of flavor to it. You can't just 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.040 give the study guds to the man because they're gonna 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.640 pick you apart. These quarterbacks are too good in the 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.240 National Football League to just say lineup and what you're 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.959 gonna play and he's got We saw it the past. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.120 Couples are gonna pick you up. There's gotta be some 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:19.520 type of disguise to this. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.240 Just a computer, just a little bit given just a 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.800 tad second longer to be able to get there. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:25.760 You gotta disguise something. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.880 So you say disguise, Okay, Jim can come up with 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.560 a great disguise if guys don't do their job, that's true. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.040 So okay, how many times are you watching these games 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.680 and you're seeing people not be. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:39.559 Alert? 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:45.520 Will rock so right, So you're just seeing basic concepts 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.559 they're not doing. Man, Man, the fundamentals here. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.679 What you see, it's not there, and it's a lot 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:52.720 of bad football going on. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.599 So is this the week they turn around and compete. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:57.520 I don't know. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.520 Until you see it. You can't believe it until you 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.760 see it consistently. You know, they made the Atlanta game 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:10.160 close at the end again like they did the Baltimore game. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.240 But the competitive phase, man, you're not where you need 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.800 to be. You have to shooting yourself a little bit man. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:20.920 So it's it's it's tough man. And the penalties. When 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.080 you see the penalty, what do you what are you 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.400 doing at home when you see these penalties? 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.920 I mean, I think that you're you're you're an undisciplined team. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.400 That's bad. Teams have certain characteristics and those are it. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.480 I mean, and and no matter how you try and 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.360 define it, whether you're pressing, whether you know whatever, it is, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.720 those little nuanced things get you beat no matter what 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.280 level of football you're playing at. That's it's aggravating to 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.200 start a game that you know you got to win. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.680 Likes soon as we get on the field, it's a penalty, right, How. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.120 Can we get a penalty on the kickoff? 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.319 We're down in the red zone, we're about to score 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:54.439 and we get a penalty. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:55.240 It's just it. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.040 But it didn't just start with Mike. And that's the thing. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.760 Those kind of things didn't just start with Mike. It 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.000 was doing Garrett. It was before that. You would see 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.960 there are times that this team was one of the 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.280 highest penalized teams in the NFL, and those traits and 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.080 characteristics have just stayed. Those are the things that don't 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.160 ever go away. I don't care who the coach has been, so. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.040 Stay with what you're correct. This was a Garrett thing 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.120 that we saw was a problem, but Mike was high. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.040 I go back to stuff Toddy Archer talks to me 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.440 about when I would be defending. Mind, you were hired 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.880 to fix this. You knew what you were walking into. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.400 This is a problem. We twenty twenty was really bad 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.240 on penalties my first year and he talked about Trump. Well, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.560 you know, teams I've had first year is probably you know, 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.920 once we get the system and all that, we get. No, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.360 this is the kind of stuff right now before a 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.640 man who's got a job that's on the line. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.800 This is how you don't keep it. Yeah, this right 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.720 here is how you don't keep it. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.400 When you just look up and you see these are 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.960 simple disciplinary things that as a coaching staff they're not 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.959 doing and as a team unit, as a team, they 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.760 haven't fixed it. Amongst each other than the locker room 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.880 to look at somebody a church. Come on, man, you 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.160 know it's third and one. You know you gotta be 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:08.800 ready for what to try to pull you off. You 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.480 gotta be ready for how are we doing this? You 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.560 know that that kind of stuff where accountability to each other, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.360 the stuff that you need is not here for a 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.440 football team right now. And that's not picking on anybody, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.880 that's right. That's not trying to slamer anybody. We're just 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.480 watching them play the kind of football that gets you beat. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:28.320 Yeah. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.280 The hard thing about that is we talked about it 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.720 yesterday when we went around the NFL and talked about 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.320 other teams, the Los Angeles Rams and their victory over Seattle. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.560 You can't tell me who's playing over there for Los Angeles. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.800 But they're giving you fight, they're giving you all that 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.480 they have. I mean, we say that they don't have that, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.360 but there's a man standing there as a man standing 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.000 there in the cowboy jersey that we we just expected. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.240 He can't do it. And I don't believe that. I 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.840 absolutely do not believe that. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.760 And I go back to I don't want to answer 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.080 your question with a question, but you asking we disguise something. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.040 My question is, Barry, your time in the NFL, what 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.600 was describe for the people in the back. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.560 What is a base defense? What is your base? 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:07.720 Base defense is? 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.000 Basically where the defenses I played in has always been 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.040 a four to three Okay, you got four down linemen, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.800 three linebackers, and then you got your secondary pieces. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.880 So no matter what the down and distance is, if 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.600 you get a base call, everybody, all eleven of y'all 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.920 know exactly what that is. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.280 There's no guessing where you're supposed to go with it. No, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.560 but it's your base, base. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.840 Cover three, base cover two. This is what's it? 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:30.440 That's it. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.440 And what I've what I've been questioning this whole time 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.080 is what is their base? 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:35.680 Like? 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.000 When we get back to who we are and you know, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.080 blood to bone, we got to get a stop, what's 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:40.560 our base? 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.040 And I don't know what that is. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.480 I mean, we've we've seen them try to disguise, change 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.320 up coverages and so many different things, but nothing is working. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.000 So I have no idea coming into a game like 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.280 this where you know you're gonna have to stop the run. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.240 You said a couple of weeks ago, I'm gonna have 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.000 to move that safety up and bring him down in 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.040 the box, and that still got two hundred and fifty 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:00.840 yards put against on you on the ground. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.840 And I think the frustrating part is we all understand 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.200 here that they may not have the tools. The carpenter 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.800 may not have his tools what he wants in there, 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.240 whether it's defensive line, secondary linebackers, you know, cats getting hurt. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.800 You may not have your tools. That's one thing, but 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:14.640 it's another. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:19.120 Thing when you're hurting yourself with the simplest alignments and 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.720 your assignment, Like you may not be the fastest guy, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.920 you may not be able to run with a Tyreek 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.200 hill like that, just man for man run with them, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.000 but you're setting yourself up for failure when the play 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.360 hasn't even started and your alignment's wrong like that. And 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.480 you know that we saw all the pick plays and 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.240 all that stuff that Kirk Cousins was able to do, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.520 Like these are the basic things that even if you 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.040 don't have the talent out there, you can't put yourself 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.400 behind the eight ball by all lining on the same 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.480 line and getting picked that way, like they're hurting themselves 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.840 defensively pre snap, and when you don't have the talent 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.440 out there to overcome those things. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.560 We see what happens defensively and offensively. It's the same 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.520 thing with these pre snap penalties holding. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.720 You don't have the team to be able to overcome 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.800 these self inflicting injuries, and it's just mounting up. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.040 Like you gotta be able to do the little things 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.080 right first and then. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.920 If you don't got the talent, you get beat man. Look, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.520 it is what it is. But you can't beat yourself 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.600 pre snap. You can't beat yourself before the ball is 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.840 even gotten into play. And that's what this team has 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:18.920 been doing to itself so far. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.040 Habits and rituals, the habits and rituals that you need 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.200 to play fundamentally sound football, escape them this year very much. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.240 All right, let's get our first break in here Michael 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.320 Parson's podcast We're an Interesting Shirt will dive into that. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:38.359 And I don't watch the debate shows, but I do 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.800 see the clips on social media. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:40.359 Church you. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.520 The first time at Church in game. Usually I don't 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:46.840 do that, man, but it just. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:58.440