WEBVTT - Getting Representation Right with Mo Brings Plenty

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm Jefferson White.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined as always by Jen Landon. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great conversation for you today, and a little later we

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<v Speaker 1>have an amazing guest for you today. I am so

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<v Speaker 1>excited for this conversation. This is a conversation that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>span Yellowstone nineteen twenty three, eighteen eighty three from a

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<v Speaker 1>perspective that you haven't heard yet. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Moe Brings plenty right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, we want to welcome you back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm Jen Landon, and we missed everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been too long. Yeah, we've had a few weeks off.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't recorded for a couple of weeks. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be really honest with you, there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>an episode of Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the extended Yellowstone universe for going on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks now, and it feels like an eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel incredibly I feel like the beautiful world of Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>the American West, this sort of fantasy that I live

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<v Speaker 1>for every week. In the absence of it, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little depressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I you know, nineteen twenty three might be actually

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<v Speaker 2>like my first experience with true obsession with one of

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<v Speaker 2>these shows. I obviously love all of the shows. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me to watch myself as an actor, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't run to the Yellowstone, you know, right when

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<v Speaker 2>it airs, because I have to take some anti anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>meds beforehand. But nineteen twenty three, without that airing, I

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<v Speaker 2>am feeling incredibly I'm not settled, I'm not happy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a shittier person to the people around me. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be a while, but thankfully we

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<v Speaker 1>have each other. And it sounds like, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been exploring at least one coping mechanism, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>you went on a trip. Will you tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>your trip, your own little odyssey?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you're right, I have been coping. I

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<v Speaker 2>ran all the way to Europe. I went to London,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went to Paris, and I got to practice

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<v Speaker 2>my French, which is really rad. Apparently, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>half the time the Parisians were like, you just speak

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<v Speaker 2>English and don't ruin our language.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but no, actually, Parisians are so nice. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell you I vaguely remember that when I

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<v Speaker 2>was little that like them being very all like up

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<v Speaker 2>their own ass. They are so kind, which means that

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<v Speaker 2>the people of la have become so horrible that they

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<v Speaker 2>make regions look sweet. Our producer is laughing, because our

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<v Speaker 2>producer is laughing because he is from l A or

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<v Speaker 2>lived in l at somebody, and like he has moved

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the county line and drives incredibly far. His

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<v Speaker 2>life is totally inconvenient, and it's just so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be in l A. Scott, can you put

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<v Speaker 2>your mic on and tell me if that's correct or not.

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<v Speaker 3>He won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He refuses to do it, and he has he make

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<v Speaker 1>sure any this is a nicely flattering description of him,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe he'll leave it in the edit. Gen I

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<v Speaker 1>would be remiss on behalf of our audience if I

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<v Speaker 1>did not ask you to A speak a little French

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<v Speaker 1>and B speak a little French in a teeter voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean Francis Francis laxandle frances Canadian perscu gebidi

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<v Speaker 2>quebec quebe Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you guys out there to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the actor that you know as Teeter on Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to speak beautiful French.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a teacher tell me that they preferred me

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<v Speaker 2>when I spoke French, that I was this like sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>lovely thing, and then when I spoke English, I was

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<v Speaker 2>an obnoxious, horrible person, which I think is true. And

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<v Speaker 2>I speak French in a Teeter hold long, how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Go be a fucking second? Oh yeah, bonjour tie for

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I go fuck you?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>French? Like her, it goes full circle and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>From your lips to Taylor Sheridan's ears god Willing. Season

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<v Speaker 1>five be of Yellowstone the second half of season five.

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<v Speaker 2>Not season five, But if we go to season seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>storylines might have to get real weird.

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<v Speaker 1>French cowboys show up to compete in a rodeo and

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<v Speaker 1>Teter speaks fluent furniture and listen, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>putting it out there just so them.

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<v Speaker 2>While we're on this theme, I'm thinking French Yellowstone, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like in our show what We've Decided, people are shot

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<v Speaker 2>and beat up all the time, like that's just what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the French version. They just slap each other.

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<v Speaker 2>They challenge each other to a glove duel. They just

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<v Speaker 2>slap it.

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<v Speaker 4>You slap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is I think this is money print

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<v Speaker 1>it me too, print it, Jen, That's incredible. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>so so glad you're back. I missed you very much selfishly,

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<v Speaker 1>while you were on your beautiful journey of self discovery

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<v Speaker 1>across Europe. I was sitting alone in my basement with

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast microphone, just waiting for you to log back in.

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<v Speaker 2>Lies Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's that's that's all I did. I've been here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here for the the what like two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty six hours intervening.

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<v Speaker 2>I had serious fomo because I wasn't sure if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were recording a bunch of things without me.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did. We recorded six or seven episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Scott. Scott realized that how incredibly boring it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He said something to me about I think his exact

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<v Speaker 1>words were, your voice is so annoying and we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>use any.

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<v Speaker 2>One's even gonna believe that because look at the Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to exclude Spotify, whatever wherever you get

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<v Speaker 2>your podcasts. The people we always say at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reviews I can only read on Apple and

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<v Speaker 2>all of all of the reviews, Jeff, talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful voice, Jed.

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<v Speaker 1>It is as always a joy to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got an audience out there who is as

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<v Speaker 1>hungry for Yellowstone as we are. They miss it the

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<v Speaker 1>same way we do. So for them, I feel very,

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to say that we've got an incredible guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to dive into all things Yellowstone eighteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty three with a man with an incredible unique

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on the whole thing. We've got Mo brings plenty

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. Thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>Mo, it's a great honor to always be to spend

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<v Speaker 4>time with you guys. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to like paint a picture a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit for the listeners. So we are talking to Mo

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and Mo is pulled over in his truck

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<v Speaker 2>with his sweetie Sarah, and and you are on. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me a little bit. You started, tell me you are

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<v Speaker 2>on your way to Texas to pick up horses.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm going to go to Texas And we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit with past reeveson and then I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to pick load up our horses, hook our trailer up,

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<v Speaker 4>and then get them back to Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some cowboys shit right there. So that is really

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect illustration for the audience that Moe is the

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<v Speaker 1>real deal. Mo really lives this life. He's been ranch

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<v Speaker 1>rodeoing for a long long time. We had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that last year, Mo. But for folks

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<v Speaker 1>who are just joining us now, also, Yellowstone's audience gets

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<v Speaker 1>bigger every year. Very lucky about that. So for folks

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know you, who didn't have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>hear our last episode, will you just talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>background a little bit and how you wound up on Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 4>I was born and raised on I was born on

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<v Speaker 4>a pinergen In reservation in South Dakota, but I like

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<v Speaker 4>to say that I was raised in Lakota Country because

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<v Speaker 4>my mother, she's from Shine River, and we have relatives

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<v Speaker 4>on a Rosebud reservation as well, so I spent time

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<v Speaker 4>on all three reservations. I moved my travel enrollment over

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<v Speaker 4>to the Shine River reservation that my mom's from because

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<v Speaker 4>she's Mini.

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<v Speaker 3>Kosia la Quota.

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<v Speaker 4>My father's Oglala Lakota, and I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>time just growing up as a kid riding horses and

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<v Speaker 4>started rodeoing. That was kind of my ticket way off

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<v Speaker 4>to adventure out beyond the reservation border towns and got

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<v Speaker 4>to meet some real amazing folks in the rodeo world

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<v Speaker 4>and just fell in love with it and been still

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<v Speaker 4>in love with it, wishing I was young again to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do some rough stock riding. But now

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<v Speaker 4>I just ride green broke ponies at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 4>And try it and hope like heck, I don't get

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<v Speaker 4>bucked off. And and because it's it's not the fall

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<v Speaker 4>that gets you, it's that sudden stop. They call it

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<v Speaker 4>a landing, but it's a sudden stop. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 4>that's the part that gets to you and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes takes the wind away from you.

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<v Speaker 3>So it feels like you can't breathe for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope, like when that happens, you hope, like heck that

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<v Speaker 4>no one sees it, sees it, And so yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>always embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>MO. I can't. I can speak for myself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am maybe gonna be able to speak for Jeff too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if either one of us like this

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<v Speaker 2>is how you know we are leads. We are so

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<v Speaker 2>far away from being real cowboys. Ever. I have not

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<v Speaker 2>on off a horse, Jeff yet have.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say it out loud, Jen, don't say it

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<v Speaker 1>out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been lucky, I understand, but I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>this thing that it like it's it's gotta happen, right Mo.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course it has to. That's that's when you can

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<v Speaker 4>really say, Okay, I'm a horseback rider.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to have that experience when you're a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to have those experiences when you're young. On

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<v Speaker 1>the show, they say, when you've got rubber bones, Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>we are too old to fall off a horse for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, no, you're not too old, because that happened to

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<v Speaker 4>me not long ago, and so it still happens. I

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason, my mind hasn't caught up to my

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<v Speaker 4>body yet. I still think I'm sixteen. I still think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm invincible. I still think I can do all of

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<v Speaker 4>these things. But when it comes down to it, I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I know, it hits the fan and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, what am I doing to myself?

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<v Speaker 1>So for anybody that doesn't know Moe also serves as

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<v Speaker 1>the consultant and coordinator on nineteen twenty three for American

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Affairs. So you're very involved in the teaching of

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<v Speaker 1>that history, and in nineteen twenty three particularly, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly painful, a sort of very ugly chapter of

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<v Speaker 1>that history. Will you talk about how you came to

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<v Speaker 1>be involved as the coordinator and sort of in your capacity?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you know, I really honestly owe everything of where

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at today to the Sheridan family, to Taylor and Nicole.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's Taylor's created has this space, and he

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<v Speaker 4>allowed me to occupy the space and be me. And

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<v Speaker 4>in the past that's that's was never welcoming. But Taylor's

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<v Speaker 4>changed that, and again I owe it all to him.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I looked at nineteen twenty three and I

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<v Speaker 4>knew what it was going to be about as I

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<v Speaker 4>was reading the scripts. I had a general idea of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, Man, do I really want to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to that space and to that moment and

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<v Speaker 4>to that memory.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought, we have to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to be a part of this because it

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<v Speaker 4>is necessary. It is necessary because society has almost forgotten

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<v Speaker 4>that where we as American Indian people that have been

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<v Speaker 4>through that and experienced it, whether it's through loved ones ourselves,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't forget about that. And so the more that

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<v Speaker 4>society understands the treatment of our what what had happened

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<v Speaker 4>to us as the people, then maybe they will begin

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<v Speaker 4>to understand who we are and it will also begin

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<v Speaker 4>to humanize us even more as American Indian people. Moments

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<v Speaker 4>that I had to get up and walk away from

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<v Speaker 4>the monitors and just go be by myself, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I wept. I wept, and and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I just have to look around and see the

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<v Speaker 4>the crew, Thank goodness, they're so amazing, and see them

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<v Speaker 4>and just be like, Okay, yeah, we're just doing a show.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, it's not just a show. It's it

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<v Speaker 3>was our lives. And and so I just had to get.

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<v Speaker 4>Back around the good, amazing crew that we're so fortunate

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<v Speaker 4>to work with and share some laughs again and get

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<v Speaker 4>back into that into that space and go back even

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<v Speaker 4>our background, our young little children that were off the reservations. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>they they nailed it and it felt good and we

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<v Speaker 4>just became a family unit, you know, with all with

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<v Speaker 4>each other and supportive. We're all from different tribes, but

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<v Speaker 4>we all been through this and and so it was

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<v Speaker 4>even the folks that played the nuns the priest.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That For me, when I meet people today, that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I wear my braids every single day. You know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I meet them, I remember and I know, but I

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<v Speaker 4>meet them with the smile and I shake their hands.

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<v Speaker 4>I acknowledge them, but I acknowledge them and introduced myself

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<v Speaker 4>with my own language, just kind of a way to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we've been through that, but we're still here, and here

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<v Speaker 4>we are together.

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<v Speaker 3>What can we do together?

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<v Speaker 4>Put our minds together, work together, no longer judge one another,

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<v Speaker 4>but work together to make a better future, a better

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow for all people.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, mo, I think I speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I speak for much of our audience too.

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<v Speaker 1>I also, in watching those scenes in nineteen twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me weep. It's an incredibly painful history to confront.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have no doubt that the burden of showing

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<v Speaker 1>that history and carrying that history is a very heavy burden.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope that you know I have been I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit a very naive throughout my life about

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<v Speaker 1>this history. And I have to say that for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the experience of working on Yellowstone, the experience of watching

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty three and nineteen twenty three, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>carry that history with me now too, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>order to reach As you spoke about the joy of

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<v Speaker 1>coming back together, to find this joy of unity, it

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<v Speaker 1>does feel like one of the steps is being honest

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<v Speaker 1>about the history. And I hope that you feel that

0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.720
<v Speaker 1>your work being honest about this history is an important

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<v Speaker 1>step towards coming together in the now, in the present.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so grateful to have Mo with us today. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep this conversation going right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why this made me think of, like, Mo,

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<v Speaker 2>you look amazing. It was the critics' choice of wards

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<v Speaker 2>just recently, right, Is this where Golden Globes got?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I keep up to date guys with the award shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, whicheverone was giving out awards, you looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was there on behalf of all of us,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was there honestly, when I was backstage, I

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking about all them young kids, that them young

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<v Speaker 4>boys that are growing their hair long and try to

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<v Speaker 4>represent their culture and that are going through their struggles

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<v Speaker 4>and doubts. I was thinking, you know, I hope they're

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<v Speaker 4>watching this so they can see that it's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It also feels like where we left off. Where we

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<v Speaker 1>left off, this season also feels like there's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>new and intro sting threats on the reservation. Particularly, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like Angela Blue Thunder, who I must say Moe

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<v Speaker 1>was wary of from the very beginning. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Moe was warning Rainwater about Angela Blue Thunder before we

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<v Speaker 1>ever met that character. So I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Moe was right about that one. Because Angela Blue Thunder

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<v Speaker 1>has really turned on Rainwater and now there's this young

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<v Speaker 1>political threat Martin kills Many. There's this like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>political plot kind of brewing against Rainwater on the Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so excited to see the role that Moe

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<v Speaker 1>plays in hopefully helping Rainwater navigate this challenge because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a unique we haven't seen Rainwater and Moe have to

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<v Speaker 1>face this kind of internal threat before, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>So glad that that has been brought up into the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it is something that does happen, truthfully, every single

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<v Speaker 4>day in Indian country on reservations, and so yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really excited and anxious too to see what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Been real because then.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thought that came to my mind was, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a sidle up zarrow and get ready drags

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<v Speaker 4>more folks. But you know that may not be the

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<v Speaker 4>answer here, and so you know, but it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's gonna be really exciting to see how this

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<v Speaker 4>all unfolds. And I'm just pumped about it. Honestly, It's

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna be something that it's a legitimate deal. We see

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time, and so now we get to

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<v Speaker 4>expose this to society and see how it's gonna unfold

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<v Speaker 4>for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that incredible. I also I feel like I should

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<v Speaker 1>mention in season four of Yellowstone, as Casey kind of

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<v Speaker 1>goes on this personal spiritual journey, he turns to mow

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<v Speaker 1>and turns to rain water for guidance in that spiritual journey,

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<v Speaker 1>will you talk about the process of as as that

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<v Speaker 1>was showing up in the script. Were you working alongside

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<v Speaker 1>Tailor in terms of what that journey looked like? What

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<v Speaker 1>would you talk a little bit about what Casey was

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<v Speaker 1>doing in season four?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, look, first of all, we're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor Sheridan.

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor Sheridan is such a he's such a history buff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he he does his homework.

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<v Speaker 4>And and second of all, Taylor Sheridan has been with

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<v Speaker 4>my people. He's been through these ceremonies, He's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a part of them, helping, and so he knows and

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<v Speaker 4>so Taylor knows quite a bit about about our culture

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<v Speaker 4>and so well, I didn't have to work.

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<v Speaker 3>With him in that.

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<v Speaker 4>All I had to do was simply put it together

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that it would show society, show the

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<v Speaker 4>viewers that we still do do this in our in

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<v Speaker 4>these days and and and and help them to understand it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then also set it up in a way that

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to protect the original steps of the ceremony itself.

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<v Speaker 4>We left we left a lot of things out, and

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<v Speaker 4>we left songs out that are a part of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And and even in setting it up, there was clear

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<v Speaker 4>to the Buffalo rope how we did everything. There are

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<v Speaker 4>certain ways of doing things and how we put someone

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<v Speaker 4>in that particular setting specifically, and and so for us,

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<v Speaker 4>for me, from that character Mo and what Casey was

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<v Speaker 4>going through and what he was seeing, he was constantly

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<v Speaker 4>seeing the wolf. And so for for that particular moment

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 4>was when he reached out, we saw rainwater and Mole.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, how I translated was that they saw an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to bring him in, to help him to understand

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<v Speaker 4>of how to sort it out. And and so we

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<v Speaker 4>created this space for him so he could have that

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<v Speaker 4>moment and he saw his own struggles. I mean, as

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 4>we all watched, you know, we saw what he was

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 4>struggling with with within his own mind. And then it

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 4>came down to him understanding the difference between his mind

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 4>and his heart and he began to follow his heart again.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what that.

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<v Speaker 4>Setting, that that scene was really primarily about. Casey's a

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<v Speaker 4>strong individual and and and we all know the strength

0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 4>that he has and his abilities to push through and

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 4>carry on and keep pressing on, I should say, And

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<v Speaker 4>but he needed a moment to allow himself to be

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<v Speaker 4>vulnerable within himself, and that's that scene gave him that space.

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 4>That particular setting gave him that space to be vulnerable,

0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 4>and we saw what he went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it seems like he particularly needed that strength

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>going into the tragedy he faces right at the beginning

0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of season five, Like him and Monica really needed the

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of strength of that tradition and that history, and

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.159
<v Speaker 1>they leaned heavily on that strength and that sort of

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of self to navigate the tragedy that faced them

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of season five together.

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<v Speaker 3>Now exactly, I mean when they lost their little one.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I buried three of my own

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 4>brothers when they were infants, and so that scene was

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<v Speaker 4>very realistic for me. I mean even you know, again,

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 4>we did some things that were not fully what we

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<v Speaker 4>normally do, but we gave an idea of some of

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.119
<v Speaker 4>the steps in the processes that we go through and

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 4>supporting individuals that lost loved ones, whether they're young or elderly,

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<v Speaker 4>and the people that were present. And part of that

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.360
<v Speaker 4>was I mean the song, even the song. The song

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 4>was such a beautiful song. You know, it was a

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:02.200
<v Speaker 4>traveling song. And so that my father and my brother

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:05.719
<v Speaker 4>composed and created that we could do was so fortunate

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<v Speaker 4>enough to use on a show. I mean, everything that

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.239
<v Speaker 4>we do has meaning, and it's about those that are

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<v Speaker 4>still here and those that have made that transition and

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 4>traveling home, and so it's it's all part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's it's just a beautiful Life's just beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>Mo I have a question for you, and I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>if I missed it when you talked about leaving certain

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<v Speaker 2>things out making sure that what goes into the show

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<v Speaker 2>is accurate and filled with integrity, but then leaving certain

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<v Speaker 2>things out, is that for the protection of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the processes, so that they can't be you know, abused

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<v Speaker 2>or misappropriated.

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<v Speaker 4>Most definitely, I mean, unfortunately, there's a lot of like

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 4>to say, spiritual predators out there, and so when they

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 4>view something, they would take that and they would you know,

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 4>included into their their their sales package and so and

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 4>and use it on people that are that are truly

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 4>in search of something in their own life, you know,

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 4>and and part of their spiritual journey. And and so

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 4>it's it's no different regardless if it's what faith, it is,

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 4>it's in all aspects. And so we had to be

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 4>able to protect the culture and and the people that

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 4>the culture comes from. And so that was why we

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 4>left so many things, you know, certain things out just

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 4>for that sake, you know, and also to protect those

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 4>people that are out there that were in search of

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 4>something in their lives, you know, that are on a

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 4>spiritual journey, and and so because in people are misled

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 4>and miss guide it. And so it's just part of

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 4>what we do on Yellowstone. And Taylor understands and knows

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 4>that and the need and the importance of it, and

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 4>so does Michael Friedman. And I love them guys, you know,

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 4>I love everyone we've been working with, and so everyone's

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 4>been so understanding and so supportive of all of it.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's great, Mo.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much again for joining us. We're going

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>to keep this conversation going right after this.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you have this sort of wise teacher

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 2>heart message that you carry in life, and I feel

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>it from you even when you know you and I

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>are just shooting the shit, like it's just something that

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you sort of kind of you just sort of give

0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>a gift to everybody that you come in contact with.

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like, am I wrong? It feel it

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>does feel like a conscious choice on your part to

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>move through the world that way.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, You're absolutely right, Jen, because it is about

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 4>it's about educating, it's about teaching. It's about sharing, you know,

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 4>because we're we as American Indian people were still you know,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 4>we can't change the past.

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I know that.

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we can't even change five seconds ago. And

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, but so I'm working towards educating people.

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Why really it's re educating.

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 4>We have to re educate society about who we are,

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>what we've become, what you know, where we're at, and

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 4>the direction we would like to go as as a whole,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 4>and really life span about unity. It's about how do

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 4>we unify one another, regardless of race, regardless of faith,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, because it's there's so much segregation in society today.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a shame and due to the fact that we

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<v Speaker 4>can't all get along and all can't at least be

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<v Speaker 4>in the same ballpark, you know, I feel that the

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<v Speaker 4>future for all of us as people is in jeopardy,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I try not to. I don't mean it

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<v Speaker 4>to sound like it's a you know, it's a bummer.

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<v Speaker 4>Society is a downer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a lot of beautiful things, and we

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<v Speaker 4>have so much in common regardless of where we live with,

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<v Speaker 4>regardless of what we're doing. What are you know what

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<v Speaker 4>we love doing because we all share the same planet

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, and we have to

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<v Speaker 4>preserve something for the generations that are yet to come,

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<v Speaker 4>not just the children of today, but the generations.

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<v Speaker 3>That are yet to come.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I try to go through life, I always

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<v Speaker 4>ask myself this question, if I had thirty seconds to

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<v Speaker 4>address the entire world, what would I say? And knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that those thirty seconds could impact the world and the

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<v Speaker 4>people within it, and and so I always try to

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<v Speaker 4>think in that aspect and and try to guide my

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<v Speaker 4>life in that way as well, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 4>is it's so important. I mean, you look at what

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<v Speaker 4>we do on Yellowstone. It's not just entertainment, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's educating. It's it's also inspiring, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 4>we inspire people to do things. And and so our

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<v Speaker 4>show is very heavy. I mean, thank goodness for your

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<v Speaker 4>guys's character is because that's the enlightening part.

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<v Speaker 3>And it brings you know, it brings.

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<v Speaker 4>Laughter and and it has that feel good and so

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<v Speaker 4>we we are always constantly educating and and so if

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<v Speaker 4>we're not continuously learning ourselves. This is my grandfather, my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 4>Philip brings plenty always said this, you will always be

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<v Speaker 4>a student of life as long as you're willing to learn,

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<v Speaker 4>and as when you're willing to learn, you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to teach others. And so other than that,

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<v Speaker 4>you become stagnant and what they call flat line. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you got to have your ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 4>And my grandpa Cila Black Crow shared that he goes,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to have ups and downs in life, grandson,

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason why you have those ups and downs

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<v Speaker 4>in life is because it's a it's a good indication,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a sign to you to let you know that

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<v Speaker 4>you are truly alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Just when you were talking there, I'd never seen the

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<v Speaker 2>mof so I feel like you're doing that thing again

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like you're changing me in this moment just

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you. You were talking about the ups and

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<v Speaker 2>downs and that when you're stagnant, they call it flat line,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just had this image of like a heart

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<v Speaker 2>monitor that when there are no ups and downs, it's

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<v Speaker 2>essentially you're just you're a little dead. You're a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like the walking dead. And I think that so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I find that unfortunately, so much of our days are

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes spent in the pursuit of things that aren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to give us ups and downs because we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to feel. But the important thing is to feel, is

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<v Speaker 2>to grow, is to learn, is to mess up.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to, I mean, you know, that's where it's

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<v Speaker 4>okay to make mistakes as long as we're learning, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and we will never know what we where we're at,

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<v Speaker 4>where we're at, we will never know the growth of

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves if we don't make a mistake. And and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's fine to make mistakes as long as we understand

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<v Speaker 4>and know, Okay, all right, I'm not gonna do that again,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we continue to grow. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's no different than riding a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>If you do something on a horse and that horse

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<v Speaker 4>decides to break in two and buck you off, then

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna know, okay, I know, not to do that

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<v Speaker 4>with that horse, because not every horse is the same,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and and so you have to Each horse

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<v Speaker 4>has their own personality, and so you have to try

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<v Speaker 4>to understand those personalities and coexist with them and work

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<v Speaker 4>together with them, you know. And so that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>love horses so much. They taught me.

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<v Speaker 2>So much in that I got I had like so

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<v Speaker 2>many questions, but I'll start with the horse one and

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 2>then move back. One of the things that I felt

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<v Speaker 2>is that my life has been changed by working with

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<v Speaker 2>horses more and I come, you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that history. I'm wondering if there are certain things that

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<v Speaker 2>you might be able to pinpoint that you see as

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<v Speaker 2>a benefit from working with the animal, like the horse

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<v Speaker 2>and being in relationship with it. I think it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that society is missing out on a lot the more

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>we become attached to technology, computers, et cetera, and leave

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that other part behind, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, when it comes to horses. The point blank, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to go to a cultural traditional teaching. Horses are

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<v Speaker 4>the bridge between the physical and the spiritual. They are

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<v Speaker 4>what we consider our physical angels. And not only in

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 4>the physical life do they carry us and are they

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<v Speaker 4>there for us? But also and when we make that

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<v Speaker 4>transition in life into the next, they're the ones that

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<v Speaker 4>are there. The greatest relationship that we've had with one

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 4>particular horse, that horse will also make that transition to

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<v Speaker 4>carry us home. And so the horse has taught me

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<v Speaker 4>self respect, It is taught me how to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to communicate or be observant and communicate without words. I

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>don't have to speak someone's language to understand their body language.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the horse has taught me how to be

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<v Speaker 4>a leader and from in my own life, not be

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<v Speaker 4>a leader for others, but a leader in my own life.

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<v Speaker 4>Because we've been taught to be followers so much that

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know how to be a leader in our

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<v Speaker 4>own lives. So we end up trying to follow our

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<v Speaker 4>own life. And when we follow our own life, we

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 4>end up just following whatever's thrown at us. And so

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<v Speaker 4>to be a leader, we know how to observe it

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<v Speaker 4>and make a decision, a proper decision.

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<v Speaker 3>And navigate a way through in that aspect.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's all teachings from the horses.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to take too much of your time

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<v Speaker 1>because you're out doing cowboy shit, and you know it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be just I don't want to get in the way

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<v Speaker 1>of that you mentioned earlier, a tenant that you live by,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that you want to be ready if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>ever tells you, hey, you have thirty seconds to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole world. And I hate to put you

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot because you've spent about forty minutes teaching us,

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<v Speaker 1>telling us incredible things. But if I said you have

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds to speak to the whole world, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you say? What do you think distills all of your

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<v Speaker 1>worldview into thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty seconds? Life is not just about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Understand and know it's about the children and the generations

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<v Speaker 4>to come.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we can fully.

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<v Speaker 4>Understand that, then we will understand and know that we

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<v Speaker 4>have the power and the ability to preserve and care for.

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<v Speaker 3>The environment so we can pass it, pass on a

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<v Speaker 3>healthy world to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And understand and know that diversity is not just about

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<v Speaker 4>skin color. We have to embrace the cultural diversity. When

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<v Speaker 4>we embrace cultural diversity, then we truly have the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to acknowledge and embrace that the Creator is honestly perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's just about skin color but not culture, then

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<v Speaker 4>we are doubting.

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<v Speaker 3>That the Creator is truly perfect? Is that thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>That was amazing perfect? Thank you so much for spending

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<v Speaker 1>this time with us today. Thank you for your friendship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for pulling over on the highway on your way

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<v Speaker 1>now pick up a horse. Believe me, Yellowstone fans would

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<v Speaker 1>not want you to slow down. Yellowstone fans are grateful

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<v Speaker 1>that you're out there getting these shows made. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for joining us, Moe. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for everything you do to bring the Yellowstone Universe to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you real soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The Official Yellowstone Podcast is a production of one oh

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<v Speaker 1>one Studios and Paramount. This episode was produced by Scott Stone.

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