1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm Jefferson White. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by Jen Landon. We've got a 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: great conversation for you today, and a little later we 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: have an amazing guest for you today. I am so 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: excited for this conversation. This is a conversation that's gonna 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: span Yellowstone nineteen twenty three, eighteen eighty three from a 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: perspective that you haven't heard yet. We're going to talk 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: to Moe Brings plenty right after this. 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, we want to welcome you back to the 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm Jen Landon, and we missed everybody. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: It's been too long. Yeah, we've had a few weeks off. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: We haven't recorded for a couple of weeks. And also, 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really honest with you, there hasn't been 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: an episode of Yellowstone. 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Oh. 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: I know the extended Yellowstone universe for going on a 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: couple of weeks now, and it feels like an eternity. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: I feel incredibly I feel like the beautiful world of Montana, 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the American West, this sort of fantasy that I live 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: for every week. In the absence of it, I feel 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: a little depressed. 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, nineteen twenty three might be actually 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: like my first experience with true obsession with one of 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: these shows. I obviously love all of the shows. It's 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: hard for me to watch myself as an actor, so 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: I don't run to the Yellowstone, you know, right when 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: it airs, because I have to take some anti anxiety 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: meds beforehand. But nineteen twenty three, without that airing, I 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: am feeling incredibly I'm not settled, I'm not happy. I'm 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: a shittier person to the people around me. I don't 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: know what we're going to do. 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a while, but thankfully we 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: have each other. And it sounds like, you know, you've 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: been exploring at least one coping mechanism, which is that 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you went on a trip. Will you tell me about 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: your trip, your own little odyssey? 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right, I have been coping. I 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: ran all the way to Europe. I went to London, 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: and I went to Paris, and I got to practice 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: my French, which is really rad. Apparently, I feel like 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: half the time the Parisians were like, you just speak 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: English and don't ruin our language. 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Oh but no, actually, Parisians are so nice. And I 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: have to tell you I vaguely remember that when I 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: was little that like them being very all like up 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: their own ass. They are so kind, which means that 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: the people of la have become so horrible that they 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: make regions look sweet. Our producer is laughing, because our 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: producer is laughing because he is from l A or 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: lived in l at somebody, and like he has moved 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: outside of the county line and drives incredibly far. His 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: life is totally inconvenient, and it's just so he doesn't 54 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: have to be in l A. Scott, can you put 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: your mic on and tell me if that's correct or not. 56 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: He won't do it. 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: He refuses to do it, and he has he make 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: sure any this is a nicely flattering description of him, 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: so maybe he'll leave it in the edit. Gen I 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: would be remiss on behalf of our audience if I 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: did not ask you to A speak a little French 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and B speak a little French in a teeter voice. 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean Francis Francis laxandle frances Canadian perscu gebidi 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: quebec quebe Okay. 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: I just want you guys out there to understand that 66 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: that that's the actor that you know as Teeter on Yellowstone. 67 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how to speak beautiful French. 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 69 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: I had a teacher tell me that they preferred me 70 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: when I spoke French, that I was this like sweet, 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: lovely thing, and then when I spoke English, I was 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: an obnoxious, horrible person, which I think is true. And 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: I speak French in a Teeter hold long, how long? 74 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Go be a fucking second? Oh yeah, bonjour tie for 75 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: I know, I go fuck you? 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: What? 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: I thank you? 78 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: You? 79 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: French? Like her, it goes full circle and it's. 80 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: From your lips to Taylor Sheridan's ears god Willing. Season 81 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: five be of Yellowstone the second half of season five. 82 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: Not season five, But if we go to season seventeen, 83 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: storylines might have to get real weird. 84 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: French cowboys show up to compete in a rodeo and 85 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Teter speaks fluent furniture and listen, and you know, we're 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: putting it out there just so them. 87 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: While we're on this theme, I'm thinking French Yellowstone, right, 88 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Like in our show what We've Decided, people are shot 89 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: and beat up all the time, like that's just what happens. 90 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: And in the French version. They just slap each other. 91 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: They challenge each other to a glove duel. They just 92 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: slap it. 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: You slap. 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is money print 95 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: it me too, print it, Jen, That's incredible. I'm also 96 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: so so glad you're back. I missed you very much selfishly, 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: while you were on your beautiful journey of self discovery 98 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: across Europe. I was sitting alone in my basement with 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: this podcast microphone, just waiting for you to log back in. 100 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: Lies Jefferson. 101 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: No, that's that's that's all I did. I've been here. 102 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: I've been here for the the what like two hundred 103 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and fifty six hours intervening. 104 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: I had serious fomo because I wasn't sure if you 105 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: guys were recording a bunch of things without me. 106 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: So we did. We recorded six or seven episodes, and 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: then Scott. Scott realized that how incredibly boring it was. 108 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: He said something to me about I think his exact 109 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: words were, your voice is so annoying and we cannot 110 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: use any. 111 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: One's even gonna believe that because look at the Apple. 112 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to exclude Spotify, whatever wherever you get 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: your podcasts. The people we always say at the end. 114 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: But the reviews I can only read on Apple and 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: all of all of the reviews, Jeff, talk about your 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: beautiful voice, Jed. 117 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: It is as always a joy to talk to you. 118 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: But we've got an audience out there who is as 119 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: hungry for Yellowstone as we are. They miss it the 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: same way we do. So for them, I feel very, 121 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: very happy to say that we've got an incredible guest today. 122 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: We're going to dive into all things Yellowstone eighteen eighty three, 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three with a man with an incredible unique 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: perspective on the whole thing. We've got Mo brings plenty 125 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: with us today. Thank you for being here. 126 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: Mo, it's a great honor to always be to spend 127 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: time with you guys. It's awesome. 128 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: I just want to like paint a picture a little 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: bit for the listeners. So we are talking to Mo 130 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: right now, and Mo is pulled over in his truck 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: with his sweetie Sarah, and and you are on. Tell 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: me a little bit. You started, tell me you are 133 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: on your way to Texas to pick up horses. 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go to Texas And we're doing 135 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: a little bit with past reeveson and then I'm going 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: to pick load up our horses, hook our trailer up, 137 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: and then get them back to Kansas. 138 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: That's some cowboys shit right there. So that is really 139 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: a perfect illustration for the audience that Moe is the 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: real deal. Mo really lives this life. He's been ranch 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: rodeoing for a long long time. We had a chance 142 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to talk about that last year, Mo. But for folks 143 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: who are just joining us now, also, Yellowstone's audience gets 144 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: bigger every year. Very lucky about that. So for folks 145 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: that don't know you, who didn't have a chance to 146 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: hear our last episode, will you just talk about your 147 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: background a little bit and how you wound up on Yellowstone. 148 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: I was born and raised on I was born on 149 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: a pinergen In reservation in South Dakota, but I like 150 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: to say that I was raised in Lakota Country because 151 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: my mother, she's from Shine River, and we have relatives 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: on a Rosebud reservation as well, so I spent time 153 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: on all three reservations. I moved my travel enrollment over 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: to the Shine River reservation that my mom's from because 155 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 4: she's Mini. 156 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: Kosia la Quota. 157 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: My father's Oglala Lakota, and I spent a lot of 158 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: time just growing up as a kid riding horses and 159 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: started rodeoing. That was kind of my ticket way off 160 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: to adventure out beyond the reservation border towns and got 161 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 4: to meet some real amazing folks in the rodeo world 162 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: and just fell in love with it and been still 163 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: in love with it, wishing I was young again to 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: be able to do some rough stock riding. But now 165 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 4: I just ride green broke ponies at home. 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: So. 167 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: And try it and hope like heck, I don't get 168 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: bucked off. And and because it's it's not the fall 169 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: that gets you, it's that sudden stop. They call it 170 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: a landing, but it's a sudden stop. That's that's the 171 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: that's the part that gets to you and kind of 172 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: sometimes takes the wind away from you. 173 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: So it feels like you can't breathe for a while. 174 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you. 175 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Hope, like when that happens, you hope, like heck that 176 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: no one sees it, sees it, And so yeah, it's 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: always embarrassing. 178 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: MO. I can't. I can speak for myself, and I 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: am maybe gonna be able to speak for Jeff too. 180 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if either one of us like this 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: is how you know we are leads. We are so 182 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: far away from being real cowboys. Ever. I have not 183 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: on off a horse, Jeff yet have. 184 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: You don't say it out loud, Jen, don't say it 185 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: out loud. 186 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: We've been lucky, I understand, but I feel like it's 187 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: this thing that it like it's it's gotta happen, right Mo. 188 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: Of course it has to. That's that's when you can 189 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: really say, Okay, I'm a horseback rider. 190 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: You're supposed to have that experience when you're a kid. 191 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: You're supposed to have those experiences when you're young. On 192 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: the show, they say, when you've got rubber bones, Jen, 193 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: we are too old to fall off a horse for 194 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: the first time. 195 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: Actually, no, you're not too old, because that happened to 196 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: me not long ago, and so it still happens. I 197 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: for some reason, my mind hasn't caught up to my 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: body yet. I still think I'm sixteen. I still think 199 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 4: I'm invincible. I still think I can do all of 200 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: these things. But when it comes down to it, I 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: you know, I know, it hits the fan and I'm thinking, 202 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: oh my god, what am I doing to myself? 203 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: So for anybody that doesn't know Moe also serves as 204 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the consultant and coordinator on nineteen twenty three for American 205 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Indian Affairs. So you're very involved in the teaching of 206 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: that history, and in nineteen twenty three particularly, we're seeing 207 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: an incredibly painful, a sort of very ugly chapter of 208 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: that history. Will you talk about how you came to 209 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: be involved as the coordinator and sort of in your capacity? 210 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: Now, you know, I really honestly owe everything of where 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm at today to the Sheridan family, to Taylor and Nicole. 212 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's Taylor's created has this space, and he 213 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: allowed me to occupy the space and be me. And 214 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: in the past that's that's was never welcoming. But Taylor's 215 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: changed that, and again I owe it all to him. 216 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: And so I looked at nineteen twenty three and I 217 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: knew what it was going to be about as I 218 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: was reading the scripts. I had a general idea of it, 219 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, Man, do I really want to 220 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 4: go back to that space and to that moment and 221 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 4: to that memory. 222 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: But I thought, we have to do this. 223 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 4: I have to be a part of this because it 224 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: is necessary. It is necessary because society has almost forgotten 225 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: that where we as American Indian people that have been 226 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: through that and experienced it, whether it's through loved ones ourselves, 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: we can't forget about that. And so the more that 228 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: society understands the treatment of our what what had happened 229 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: to us as the people, then maybe they will begin 230 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: to understand who we are and it will also begin 231 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: to humanize us even more as American Indian people. Moments 232 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: that I had to get up and walk away from 233 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: the monitors and just go be by myself, and I'm 234 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: not gonna lie. 235 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: I wept. I wept, and and. 236 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: Then I just have to look around and see the 237 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: the crew, Thank goodness, they're so amazing, and see them 238 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: and just be like, Okay, yeah, we're just doing a show. 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: But for me, it's not just a show. It's it 240 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: was our lives. And and so I just had to get. 241 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: Back around the good, amazing crew that we're so fortunate 242 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: to work with and share some laughs again and get 243 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: back into that into that space and go back even 244 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: our background, our young little children that were off the reservations. Wow, 245 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: they they nailed it and it felt good and we 246 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 4: just became a family unit, you know, with all with 247 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: each other and supportive. We're all from different tribes, but 248 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 4: we all been through this and and so it was 249 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: even the folks that played the nuns the priest. 250 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you know. 251 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 4: That For me, when I meet people today, that's why 252 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: I wear my braids every single day. You know, when 253 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: I meet them, I remember and I know, but I 254 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: meet them with the smile and I shake their hands. 255 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: I acknowledge them, but I acknowledge them and introduced myself 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: with my own language, just kind of a way to say, yeah, 257 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: we've been through that, but we're still here, and here 258 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: we are together. 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: What can we do together? 260 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: Put our minds together, work together, no longer judge one another, 261 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: but work together to make a better future, a better 262 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: tomorrow for all people. 263 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: I gotta say, mo, I think I speak for myself. 264 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure I speak for much of our audience too. 265 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I also, in watching those scenes in nineteen twenty three, 266 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: it makes me weep. It's an incredibly painful history to confront. 267 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: And I have no doubt that the burden of showing 268 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: that history and carrying that history is a very heavy burden. 269 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: But I hope that you know I have been I 270 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: have to admit a very naive throughout my life about 271 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: this history. And I have to say that for me, 272 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: the experience of working on Yellowstone, the experience of watching 273 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty three and nineteen twenty three, I'm going to 274 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: carry that history with me now too, you know, in 275 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: order to reach As you spoke about the joy of 276 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: coming back together, to find this joy of unity, it 277 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: does feel like one of the steps is being honest 278 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: about the history. And I hope that you feel that 279 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: your work being honest about this history is an important 280 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: step towards coming together in the now, in the present. 281 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: We're so grateful to have Mo with us today. We're 282 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: going to keep this conversation going right after this. 283 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why this made me think of, like, Mo, 284 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: you look amazing. It was the critics' choice of wards 285 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: just recently, right, Is this where Golden Globes got? 286 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: You know? 287 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: I keep up to date guys with the award shows. 288 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Either way, whicheverone was giving out awards, you looked amazing. 289 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, amazing. 290 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: Well, I was there on behalf of all of us, 291 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: and I was there honestly, when I was backstage, I 292 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: was thinking about all them young kids, that them young 293 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: boys that are growing their hair long and try to 294 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: represent their culture and that are going through their struggles 295 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: and doubts. I was thinking, you know, I hope they're 296 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: watching this so they can see that it's gonna be okay. 297 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 298 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: It also feels like where we left off. Where we 299 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: left off, this season also feels like there's kind of 300 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: new and intro sting threats on the reservation. Particularly, it 301 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: feels like Angela Blue Thunder, who I must say Moe 302 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: was wary of from the very beginning. I feel like 303 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: Moe was warning Rainwater about Angela Blue Thunder before we 304 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: ever met that character. So I think that, you know, 305 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Moe was right about that one. Because Angela Blue Thunder 306 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: has really turned on Rainwater and now there's this young 307 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: political threat Martin kills Many. There's this like sort of 308 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: political plot kind of brewing against Rainwater on the Reds. 309 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to see the role that Moe 310 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: plays in hopefully helping Rainwater navigate this challenge because it's 311 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: a unique we haven't seen Rainwater and Moe have to 312 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: face this kind of internal threat before, you know, and 313 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: I am. 314 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 4: So glad that that has been brought up into the show. 315 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: Because it is something that does happen, truthfully, every single 316 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: day in Indian country on reservations, and so yeah, I'm 317 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: really excited and anxious too to see what's gonna happen. 318 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: Been real because then. 319 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: The first thought that came to my mind was, well, 320 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: I got a sidle up zarrow and get ready drags 321 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: more folks. But you know that may not be the 322 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: answer here, and so you know, but it's it's like, 323 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be really exciting to see how this 324 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 4: all unfolds. And I'm just pumped about it. Honestly, It's 325 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: gonna be something that it's a legitimate deal. We see 326 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: it all the time, and so now we get to 327 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: expose this to society and see how it's gonna unfold 328 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: for everyone. 329 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that incredible. I also I feel like I should 330 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: mention in season four of Yellowstone, as Casey kind of 331 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: goes on this personal spiritual journey, he turns to mow 332 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: and turns to rain water for guidance in that spiritual journey, 333 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: will you talk about the process of as as that 334 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: was showing up in the script. Were you working alongside 335 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: Tailor in terms of what that journey looked like? What 336 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: would you talk a little bit about what Casey was 337 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: doing in season four? 338 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: Okay, look, first of all, we're gonna be talking about 339 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: Taylor Sheridan. 340 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: Taylor Sheridan is such a he's such a history buff. 341 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean, he he does his homework. 342 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: And and second of all, Taylor Sheridan has been with 343 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: my people. He's been through these ceremonies, He's been, you know, 344 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: a part of them, helping, and so he knows and 345 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: so Taylor knows quite a bit about about our culture 346 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: and so well, I didn't have to work. 347 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: With him in that. 348 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 4: All I had to do was simply put it together 349 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: in a way that it would show society, show the 350 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: viewers that we still do do this in our in 351 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 4: these days and and and and help them to understand it, 352 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: and then also set it up in a way that 353 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: it's going to protect the original steps of the ceremony itself. 354 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: We left we left a lot of things out, and 355 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: we left songs out that are a part of that. 356 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: And and even in setting it up, there was clear 357 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: to the Buffalo rope how we did everything. There are 358 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: certain ways of doing things and how we put someone 359 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: in that particular setting specifically, and and so for us, 360 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 4: for me, from that character Mo and what Casey was 361 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: going through and what he was seeing, he was constantly 362 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: seeing the wolf. And so for for that particular moment 363 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: was when he reached out, we saw rainwater and Mole. 364 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: For me, how I translated was that they saw an 365 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: opportunity to bring him in, to help him to understand 366 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: of how to sort it out. And and so we 367 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: created this space for him so he could have that 368 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: moment and he saw his own struggles. I mean, as 369 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: we all watched, you know, we saw what he was 370 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: struggling with with within his own mind. And then it 371 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: came down to him understanding the difference between his mind 372 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: and his heart and he began to follow his heart again. 373 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: And so that's what that. 374 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: Setting, that that scene was really primarily about. Casey's a 375 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 4: strong individual and and and we all know the strength 376 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: that he has and his abilities to push through and 377 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: carry on and keep pressing on, I should say, And 378 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: but he needed a moment to allow himself to be 379 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: vulnerable within himself, and that's that scene gave him that space. 380 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: That particular setting gave him that space to be vulnerable, 381 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: and we saw what he went through. 382 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like he particularly needed that strength 383 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: going into the tragedy he faces right at the beginning 384 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: of season five, Like him and Monica really needed the 385 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: sort of strength of that tradition and that history, and 386 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: they leaned heavily on that strength and that sort of 387 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: knowledge of self to navigate the tragedy that faced them 388 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: at the beginning of season five together. 389 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: Now exactly, I mean when they lost their little one. 390 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I buried three of my own 391 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 4: brothers when they were infants, and so that scene was 392 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: very realistic for me. I mean even you know, again, 393 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: we did some things that were not fully what we 394 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: normally do, but we gave an idea of some of 395 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: the steps in the processes that we go through and 396 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: supporting individuals that lost loved ones, whether they're young or elderly, 397 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: and the people that were present. And part of that 398 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: was I mean the song, even the song. The song 399 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: was such a beautiful song. You know, it was a 400 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: traveling song. And so that my father and my brother 401 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 4: composed and created that we could do was so fortunate 402 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 4: enough to use on a show. I mean, everything that 403 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 4: we do has meaning, and it's about those that are 404 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: still here and those that have made that transition and 405 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: traveling home, and so it's it's all part of it. 406 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: And so it's it's just a beautiful Life's just beautiful 407 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: all the way around. 408 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: Mo I have a question for you, and I'm sorry 409 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: if I missed it when you talked about leaving certain 410 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: things out making sure that what goes into the show 411 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: is accurate and filled with integrity, but then leaving certain 412 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: things out, is that for the protection of some of 413 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: the processes, so that they can't be you know, abused 414 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: or misappropriated. 415 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: Most definitely, I mean, unfortunately, there's a lot of like 416 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: to say, spiritual predators out there, and so when they 417 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: view something, they would take that and they would you know, 418 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: included into their their their sales package and so and 419 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: and use it on people that are that are truly 420 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: in search of something in their own life, you know, 421 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: and and part of their spiritual journey. And and so 422 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: it's it's no different regardless if it's what faith, it is, 423 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: it's in all aspects. And so we had to be 424 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: able to protect the culture and and the people that 425 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: the culture comes from. And so that was why we 426 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: left so many things, you know, certain things out just 427 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: for that sake, you know, and also to protect those 428 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: people that are out there that were in search of 429 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: something in their lives, you know, that are on a 430 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 4: spiritual journey, and and so because in people are misled 431 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: and miss guide it. And so it's just part of 432 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: what we do on Yellowstone. And Taylor understands and knows 433 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: that and the need and the importance of it, and 434 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: so does Michael Friedman. And I love them guys, you know, 435 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: I love everyone we've been working with, and so everyone's 436 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: been so understanding and so supportive of all of it. 437 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: And so it's great, Mo. 438 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for joining us. We're going 439 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: to keep this conversation going right after this. 440 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you have this sort of wise teacher 441 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: heart message that you carry in life, and I feel 442 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: it from you even when you know you and I 443 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: are just shooting the shit, like it's just something that 444 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: you sort of kind of you just sort of give 445 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: a gift to everybody that you come in contact with. 446 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: And I feel like, am I wrong? It feel it 447 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: does feel like a conscious choice on your part to 448 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: move through the world that way. 449 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 4: You know, You're absolutely right, Jen, because it is about 450 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: it's about educating, it's about teaching. It's about sharing, you know, 451 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: because we're we as American Indian people were still you know, 452 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 4: we can't change the past. 453 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: I know that. 454 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: I mean, we can't even change five seconds ago. And 455 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: you know, but so I'm working towards educating people. 456 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: Why really it's re educating. 457 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: We have to re educate society about who we are, 458 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: what we've become, what you know, where we're at, and 459 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: the direction we would like to go as as a whole, 460 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: and really life span about unity. It's about how do 461 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: we unify one another, regardless of race, regardless of faith, 462 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 4: you know, because it's there's so much segregation in society today. 463 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: It's a shame and due to the fact that we 464 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: can't all get along and all can't at least be 465 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: in the same ballpark, you know, I feel that the 466 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: future for all of us as people is in jeopardy, 467 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: and so I try not to. I don't mean it 468 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 4: to sound like it's a you know, it's a bummer. 469 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: Society is a downer. 470 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: It's not. 471 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of beautiful things, and we 472 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: have so much in common regardless of where we live with, 473 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: regardless of what we're doing. What are you know what 474 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: we love doing because we all share the same planet 475 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, and we have to 476 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 4: preserve something for the generations that are yet to come, 477 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: not just the children of today, but the generations. 478 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: That are yet to come. 479 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 4: And so I try to go through life, I always 480 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: ask myself this question, if I had thirty seconds to 481 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: address the entire world, what would I say? And knowing 482 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: that those thirty seconds could impact the world and the 483 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: people within it, and and so I always try to 484 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: think in that aspect and and try to guide my 485 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: life in that way as well, you know, because it 486 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: is it's so important. I mean, you look at what 487 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: we do on Yellowstone. It's not just entertainment, you know, 488 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: it's educating. It's it's also inspiring, you know, and so 489 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 4: we inspire people to do things. And and so our 490 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: show is very heavy. I mean, thank goodness for your 491 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: guys's character is because that's the enlightening part. 492 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: And it brings you know, it brings. 493 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: Laughter and and it has that feel good and so 494 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: we we are always constantly educating and and so if 495 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: we're not continuously learning ourselves. This is my grandfather, my grandfather, 496 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: Philip brings plenty always said this, you will always be 497 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: a student of life as long as you're willing to learn, 498 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: and as when you're willing to learn, you're going to 499 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: be able to teach others. And so other than that, 500 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: you become stagnant and what they call flat line. Basically, 501 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: you know, you got to have your ups and downs. 502 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: And my grandpa Cila Black Crow shared that he goes, 503 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: you got to have ups and downs in life, grandson, 504 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: And the reason why you have those ups and downs 505 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: in life is because it's a it's a good indication, 506 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: it's a sign to you to let you know that 507 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: you are truly alive. 508 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Just when you were talking there, I'd never seen the 509 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: mof so I feel like you're doing that thing again 510 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: where you're like you're changing me in this moment just 511 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: talking to you. You were talking about the ups and 512 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: downs and that when you're stagnant, they call it flat line, 513 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: and I just had this image of like a heart 514 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: monitor that when there are no ups and downs, it's 515 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: essentially you're just you're a little dead. You're a little 516 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: bit like the walking dead. And I think that so much. 517 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: I find that unfortunately, so much of our days are 518 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: oftentimes spent in the pursuit of things that aren't going 519 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: to give us ups and downs because we don't want 520 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: to feel. But the important thing is to feel, is 521 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: to grow, is to learn, is to mess up. 522 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: You have to, I mean, you know, that's where it's 523 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: okay to make mistakes as long as we're learning, you know, 524 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: and we will never know what we where we're at, 525 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: where we're at, we will never know the growth of 526 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: ourselves if we don't make a mistake. And and so 527 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: it's fine to make mistakes as long as we understand 528 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: and know, Okay, all right, I'm not gonna do that again, 529 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: and so we continue to grow. I mean, it's just 530 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: it's no different than riding a horse. 531 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: You know. 532 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: If you do something on a horse and that horse 533 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: decides to break in two and buck you off, then 534 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: you're gonna know, okay, I know, not to do that 535 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 4: with that horse, because not every horse is the same, 536 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: you know, and and so you have to Each horse 537 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: has their own personality, and so you have to try 538 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: to understand those personalities and coexist with them and work 539 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: together with them, you know. And so that's why I 540 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: love horses so much. They taught me. 541 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: So much in that I got I had like so 542 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: many questions, but I'll start with the horse one and 543 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: then move back. One of the things that I felt 544 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: is that my life has been changed by working with 545 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: horses more and I come, you know, I don't have 546 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: that history. I'm wondering if there are certain things that 547 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: you might be able to pinpoint that you see as 548 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: a benefit from working with the animal, like the horse 549 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: and being in relationship with it. I think it's something 550 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: that society is missing out on a lot the more 551 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: we become attached to technology, computers, et cetera, and leave 552 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: that other part behind, you. 553 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: Know, when it comes to horses. The point blank, I'm 554 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: going to go to a cultural traditional teaching. Horses are 555 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: the bridge between the physical and the spiritual. They are 556 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: what we consider our physical angels. And not only in 557 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: the physical life do they carry us and are they 558 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: there for us? But also and when we make that 559 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: transition in life into the next, they're the ones that 560 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: are there. The greatest relationship that we've had with one 561 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: particular horse, that horse will also make that transition to 562 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: carry us home. And so the horse has taught me 563 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: self respect, It is taught me how to be able 564 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: to communicate or be observant and communicate without words. I 565 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: don't have to speak someone's language to understand their body language. 566 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: And so the horse has taught me how to be 567 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: a leader and from in my own life, not be 568 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: a leader for others, but a leader in my own life. 569 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: Because we've been taught to be followers so much that 570 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: we don't know how to be a leader in our 571 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 4: own lives. So we end up trying to follow our 572 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: own life. And when we follow our own life, we 573 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: end up just following whatever's thrown at us. And so 574 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: to be a leader, we know how to observe it 575 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: and make a decision, a proper decision. 576 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: And navigate a way through in that aspect. 577 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: And so that's all teachings from the horses. 578 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to take too much of your time 579 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: because you're out doing cowboy shit, and you know it'd 580 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: be just I don't want to get in the way 581 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 1: of that you mentioned earlier, a tenant that you live by, 582 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: this idea that you want to be ready if anybody 583 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: ever tells you, hey, you have thirty seconds to speak 584 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: to the whole world. And I hate to put you 585 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: on the spot because you've spent about forty minutes teaching us, 586 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: telling us incredible things. But if I said you have 587 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: thirty seconds to speak to the whole world, what would 588 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: you say? What do you think distills all of your 589 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: worldview into thirty seconds? 590 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: Thirty seconds? Life is not just about yourself. 591 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: Understand and know it's about the children and the generations 592 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 4: to come. 593 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: And when we can fully. 594 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: Understand that, then we will understand and know that we 595 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: have the power and the ability to preserve and care for. 596 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: The environment so we can pass it, pass on a 597 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: healthy world to them. 598 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 4: And understand and know that diversity is not just about 599 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: skin color. We have to embrace the cultural diversity. When 600 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: we embrace cultural diversity, then we truly have the ability 601 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: to acknowledge and embrace that the Creator is honestly perfect. 602 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: If it's just about skin color but not culture, then 603 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 4: we are doubting. 604 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: That the Creator is truly perfect? Is that thirty seconds? 605 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: That was amazing perfect? Thank you so much for spending 606 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: this time with us today. Thank you for your friendship. Yeah, 607 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: thanks for pulling over on the highway on your way 608 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: now pick up a horse. Believe me, Yellowstone fans would 609 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: not want you to slow down. 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