WEBVTT - The Robots4Us Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>Get in Touch with Technology was tex Stuff from Hi

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<v Speaker 1>there and welcome to textas. I'm your host Jonathan Strickland. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about robots now. I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>robots both here on tech Stuff and on my other show,

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. One of my first assignments and How Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works was to update our article on how Asimo works.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the humanoid robot from Honda. But my fascination with

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<v Speaker 1>robots goes back much much further. When I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched tons of movies with robots in films like

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars and The Black Hole. I was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Buck Rogers and Balstar Galactica. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>good version of Battle Star, you know, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>was from Night and had that really awesome theme song. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>robots spectored into some of my favorite television series and movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and that love goes strong today. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't appreciate as a kid but really understand now

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<v Speaker 1>is how complicated a field robotics really is. There are

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<v Speaker 1>enormous challenges designers face when creating a robot. Even a

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<v Speaker 1>stationary robot that only needs to complete a few precise

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<v Speaker 1>movements is a complicated and potentially dangerous creation. Robots that

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<v Speaker 1>move around come with even more challenges, and a robot

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<v Speaker 1>that can navigate through variable terrain is a huge design challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the AI side of the equation. Artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>is a term that gets thrown around a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>people often misuse it or focus on a very narrow

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<v Speaker 1>definition of it. Most of the discussions I hear about

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<v Speaker 1>AI are really about strong AI. That's the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>a machine capable of simulating thought on some level. But

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<v Speaker 1>AI isn't just about getting a computer to think. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even primarily about that. AI can involve building

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<v Speaker 1>systems that allow robots to perceive their environ moments, interpret

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<v Speaker 1>the data they receive, and respond appropriately. It might include

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<v Speaker 1>optical systems or voice recognition software. It could require natural

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<v Speaker 1>language processing so that the way you and I speak

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<v Speaker 1>becomes intelligible to a machine. It could involve plotting a

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<v Speaker 1>pathway through a new environment. Now, if you or I

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<v Speaker 1>were to walk into a room for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably find it pretty easy to make our way

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<v Speaker 1>to a specific point in the room. Even if there

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<v Speaker 1>were obstacles in the way, we could reason our way

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<v Speaker 1>around it. Even taking the pathway that requires the least

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<v Speaker 1>amount of work to get there. For a robot, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the easiest task, particularly in a room that

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<v Speaker 1>has changing conditions in it. What I'm getting at is

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<v Speaker 1>that building robots designed to maneuver through new and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>changing environments bring with it a host of engineering and

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<v Speaker 1>programming challenges. It's a wonder that anyone ever tries to

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<v Speaker 1>even do it. But that brings us to what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about today, the DARPA Robotics Challenge. Now

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<v Speaker 1>DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Defense. Before nineteen seventy two, it was

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<v Speaker 1>known as ARPA, and it's the agency responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of ARPA Net, which is the predecessor to today's Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>The organization is dedicated to research and development of new technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>It was founded in nineteen fifty eight, a year after

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<v Speaker 1>the then Soviet Union launched the beeping satellite Sputnik. President

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower directed U S Secretary of Defense Neil McElroy, to

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<v Speaker 1>coordinate a national space program. The Department of Defense formed

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<v Speaker 1>ARPA in February nineteen fifty eight as a special agency

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<v Speaker 1>within the Pentagon to maintain technological superiority over potential adversaries. Originally,

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<v Speaker 1>the agency had three presidential erectives to follow. The first

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<v Speaker 1>was to get the U S Space program off the

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<v Speaker 1>ground figuratively and literally. The second was to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with the means of protecting the United States from Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>missile attacks, and the third was to find ways to

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<v Speaker 1>detect Soviet nuclear tests. The first director of the agency

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<v Speaker 1>was Roy Johnson, who aggressively pursued the organization's goals. ARPA

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<v Speaker 1>was and remains independent from the military services now. This

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<v Speaker 1>gives the organization a huge advantage in that it can

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<v Speaker 1>explore high risk research and development projects that the military

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<v Speaker 1>services can't pursue. The potential payoffs for these projects might

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<v Speaker 1>be huge, but there may be no guarantee that they'll succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>The agency has created a culture of thinking outside the box.

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<v Speaker 1>ARPA was responsible for much of the early work that

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<v Speaker 1>would eventually send astronauts to space and to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>As the work progressed, ARPA transitioned and shared its research

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<v Speaker 1>and development with the newly formed National Aeronautics and Space Administration,

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<v Speaker 1>or NASA. ARPA itself was affected heavily by this transition,

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<v Speaker 1>it stopped looking into the space race. Many people were

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<v Speaker 1>either let go or moved to other departments, and budgets

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<v Speaker 1>were cut. In the nineteen sixties, the organization focused on

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<v Speaker 1>other big projects for the Department of Defense. In the process,

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<v Speaker 1>we made great strides and several scientific fields, including geology, seismology,

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<v Speaker 1>and radio astronomy. ARPA was identifying specific goals we needed

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<v Speaker 1>to meet, which brought to light engineering challenges. This gave

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<v Speaker 1>people working with and for ARPA the direction they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to solve tough problems. Often this would create benefits beyond

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<v Speaker 1>completing a project. Now. DARPA has been involved with robotics

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<v Speaker 1>for years. I've talked about driverless cars on this show before,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ones being designed by Google. Many of the

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<v Speaker 1>cars in development right now owe a lot to DARPA.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand four, DARPA held the DARPA Grand Challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>which created a competition between teams to build an autonomous

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<v Speaker 1>car capable of navigating through a course. The big winner

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<v Speaker 1>of the two thousand four Grand Challenge was nobody. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a single team managed to complete the course, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>than become discouraged, the various mechanics engineers, computer scientists and

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<v Speaker 1>inventors went back to the drawing board to try again.

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge was held again in two thousand five, and

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<v Speaker 1>this time five teams completed the course. In first place

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<v Speaker 1>was the Stanford Racing team with Stanley their autonomous vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>The course included narrow tunnels and sharp turns. On that

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<v Speaker 1>team with Stanford was Sebastian Thrunn, who was the director

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<v Speaker 1>of the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. Now he has a

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<v Speaker 1>different job title. He's the project leader on Google's self

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<v Speaker 1>driving car project. In two thousand seven, DARPA held another challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>this time putting autonomous vehicles in a simulated urban environment

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<v Speaker 1>complete with traffic signs and signals and other traffic Tartan Racing,

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<v Speaker 1>A team from Carnegie melon University claimed first place. Five

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<v Speaker 1>other teams successfully completed the course. Maneuvering through traffic and

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<v Speaker 1>obeying traffic laws added new parameters to the challenge. Cars

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't just plot a pathway and follow it. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to get across exactly how big a deal

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<v Speaker 1>designing an autonomous vehicle really is. It has to do

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<v Speaker 1>things that you and I take for granted, but that

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<v Speaker 1>in no way shape or form come naturally to a machine,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not where the story ends. Now it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the DARPA Robotics Challenge, the finals for

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<v Speaker 1>which will take place in June of this year, two

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<v Speaker 1>com slash tech. The challenge is this build a robot

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<v Speaker 1>that is capable of entering a disaster area, navigating to

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<v Speaker 1>a specific location, and activating machinery to prevent the disaster

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<v Speaker 1>from becoming worse. The inspiration for the challenge came from

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<v Speaker 1>a real world incident Gil Pratt from DARPA explod eights.

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<v Speaker 1>The Darker Robotics Challenge is a program the DARPA is

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<v Speaker 1>running to develop technology to make our society more resilient

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<v Speaker 1>to natural and man made disasters. Uh It was inspired

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<v Speaker 1>directly by the Fukushima disaster in Japan that had a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear meltdown and the release of radioactive contamination as part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and our inspiration in that disaster was that

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<v Speaker 1>if robots had been there during the first day or

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<v Speaker 1>two of that disaster, the release of the radioactive contamination

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<v Speaker 1>could have been prevented. In particular, there were three explosions

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<v Speaker 1>that occurred, and had robots been able to go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and open up some valves to release the pressure, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the disaster would not have been nearly as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>it ended up being. Now, of course, we can't change

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<v Speaker 1>the past, so um what we need to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to prepare for the future, and the point of the

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<v Speaker 1>Darker Robotics Challenge is to develop a kind of technology

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<v Speaker 1>for humans and robots working together at what each one

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<v Speaker 1>is best at, with the robots working in a contaminated

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<v Speaker 1>area and human beings working in a safe zone to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to emergently handle natural and man made disasters

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<v Speaker 1>that may occur in the future. Using the Fukushima disaster

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<v Speaker 1>as a model, DARPA has created a scenario in which

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<v Speaker 1>robots will encounter situations similar to what was happening in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge isn't just a single task, it's a series

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<v Speaker 1>of them. We're trying to emulate a real disaster, and

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<v Speaker 1>even though we don't expect the next disaster to be

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<v Speaker 1>the same as what happened in Fukushima, we're using that

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<v Speaker 1>as our exemplar. And so the robots will have to

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<v Speaker 1>begin by being placed into a vehicle in a safe

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<v Speaker 1>area by their human handlers. The robot will then, under

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<v Speaker 1>human supervision, have to drive a certain distance in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a particular site, which is similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the reactor site in Japan, but of course ours is

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<v Speaker 1>just a mock up. Having gotten to the site, the

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<v Speaker 1>robot will have to get out of the vehicle and

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<v Speaker 1>egress on its own, open a door to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the site, walk into the building, and then travel or

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<v Speaker 1>some debris, move some debris out of the way, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then do tasks that are similar to what needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be done in Fukushima. The established tasks present big

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<v Speaker 1>problems for engineers to solve. A robot capable of driving

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<v Speaker 1>a car is different from an autonomous vehicle. Teams will

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<v Speaker 1>have to build robots that have appendages that can work

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<v Speaker 1>with vehicles we've designed for ourselves. Navigating through debris is

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<v Speaker 1>another tough problem. The robots will need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to test their pathways carefully before committing to them. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the surprise. Robots don't do well with surprises. Typically,

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<v Speaker 1>roboticists design their machines for specific purposes. You define the

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<v Speaker 1>parameters of what your robots should be able to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and you ignore anything that falls outside those parameters. But surprises,

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<v Speaker 1>by their very nature can fall outside your normal consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>So designing a robot that can adapt to situations makes

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<v Speaker 1>things truly challenging, and in fact, we add some difficulty

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<v Speaker 1>even beyond a surprise, which is that we make the

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<v Speaker 1>communications more difficult than it ordinarily would be if there

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<v Speaker 1>was no disaster. In real disasters, usually communication infrastructure is

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<v Speaker 1>degraded and everybody's trying to talk on the radio at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and so we have something called a

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<v Speaker 1>degraded communication emulator, which is a piece of hardware that

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<v Speaker 1>makes the communication network between the human beings and the

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<v Speaker 1>robots much worse than it ordinarily would be if there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't any simulation of a disaster going on. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the teams will have to do well despite a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interruption and a lot of degradation of communication. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that you're on one of those engineering teams. Your

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<v Speaker 1>robot has to be able to drive a vehicle to

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<v Speaker 1>another location, get out of the vehicle, navigate into a building,

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<v Speaker 1>climb a flight of stairs, cut a hole in a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate cables and controls, and deal with something outside of

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<v Speaker 1>those events. On top of that, you can't rely on

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<v Speaker 1>communication systems to guide your robot or keep eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening remotely. It almost sounds like an impossible challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>but the point is that this pushes roboticists to think

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<v Speaker 1>through these problems and create new solutions. It forces innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, it gets us closer to a world

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<v Speaker 1>in which robots can realistically and reliably respond in emergency situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Darbas says that we should expect to see robots operating

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<v Speaker 1>on the level of a two year old child. They

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to carry out simple commands autonomously, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll need human intervention to chain together a series of

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<v Speaker 1>simple commands to accomplish complicated goals. This, in turn, will

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<v Speaker 1>become the foundation for more sophisticated robots in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps some with the ability to adapt to new situations

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<v Speaker 1>and remain flexible and its decision making process. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly ambitious challenge and I can't wait to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the various teams tackle them. Of course, I'll be reading

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<v Speaker 1>about the challenge after it happens, but if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a high school student or you know someone in high

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<v Speaker 1>school who has an interest in robotics, you may get

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<v Speaker 1>to witness it firsthand. That's because DARPA is holding the

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<v Speaker 1>Robots for Us Challenge, which gives a pretty cool opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to students. The Robots for Us Challenge is a contest

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<v Speaker 1>that we're having for high school aged students from the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and its territories aimed at beginning to address

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<v Speaker 1>societal issues with robotics, and in particular, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of buzz in the media recently about artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>and robotics and what it might mean for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>DARPA believes that it's very important for us as technologists

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<v Speaker 1>to raise these issues with society and to let society

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<v Speaker 1>know that they should start thinking about this. And we

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<v Speaker 1>think high school aged students are of the right age.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be the generation that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>most affected by this, and so uh we would like

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<v Speaker 1>to see what high school students have to say about

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<v Speaker 1>these issues. I think this is fantastic. While we rush

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<v Speaker 1>to innovate in robotics, we also must think about the

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<v Speaker 1>impact those developments will have, not just the direct impact

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<v Speaker 1>of this technology, but the social implications that could have

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. And while I have some thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject, I really do love to hear what younger

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<v Speaker 1>people have to say about it. They often approach problems

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<v Speaker 1>with a perspective that simply would never occur to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and Darba recognizes that potential as well. So how do

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<v Speaker 1>students get involved? Students can enter the contest by going

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<v Speaker 1>to the main DARKA Robotics Challenge website, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>Robotics Challenge dot org. That's just one word, the Robotics

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<v Speaker 1>Challenge dot org. And there they'll find a icon for

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<v Speaker 1>the Robots for Us contest, and you click on that

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<v Speaker 1>icon and it will take you to the forms in

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<v Speaker 1>order to register. The submission is in the form of

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<v Speaker 1>a two to three minute video clip that deals with

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<v Speaker 1>some issue in robots and society. Now, this is right

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<v Speaker 1>in my wheelhouse. I do videos like this every week. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit outside the brackets for the contest having

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<v Speaker 1>graduated high school back in but if I were still

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<v Speaker 1>of the appropriate age, who would see my submission? The

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<v Speaker 1>judges of the video entries are going to be roboticists

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<v Speaker 1>and ethicist for our first pass, and then a second

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<v Speaker 1>pass on the winners will be made by Darker program

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<v Speaker 1>managers and from that we will choose five winners. These

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be solo projects. You can get help,

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<v Speaker 1>but each submission needs one person designated as the representative

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<v Speaker 1>of the video. That's the person who is eligible to

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<v Speaker 1>win the prize and the prize that's a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>the Robotics Challenge finals. And in addition, Darker will not

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<v Speaker 1>only pay travel expenses for that student to come to

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<v Speaker 1>the Darker Robotics Challenge, but also pay the travel expenses

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<v Speaker 1>The students will present their thoughts on the future of

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<v Speaker 1>robots in our society to the various teams present. They

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<v Speaker 1>will have a chance to watch the teams compete with

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<v Speaker 1>one another and complete the tasks. This is the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff I would have loved to do as a

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<v Speaker 1>Submissions are due by April one. You can find more

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<v Speaker 1>information at DARPA's website for the Robots for Us Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>at www dot the Robotics Challenge dot org. DARPA has

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<v Speaker 1>another challenge objective right now. It's the Cyber Grand Challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you might guess, it has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Internet security. This is becoming increasingly important as more critical

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<v Speaker 1>for example. Every year, trillions of dollars of business rely

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<v Speaker 1>upon the Internet in some fashion as attempting target. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we add more devices to the Internet in our

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<v Speaker 1>quest to create the Internet of Things, it's only going

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<v Speaker 1>to get more complicated. A connected gadget could serve as

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<v Speaker 1>a network vulnerability, allowing attackers and entry point into a network. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be hyperbole to suggest that a refrigerator could

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<v Speaker 1>lead to the collapse of a bank, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>need to pay close attention to potential security hazards and

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<v Speaker 1>DARPA has come up with a creative challenge for programmers.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, attackers look for soft spots in a network.

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<v Speaker 1>They just need to find in one vulnerability to exploit.

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<v Speaker 1>Their job is relatively easy. Now, designing a secure network

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<v Speaker 1>that's much more difficult. It's just about impossible to anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>all potential weak points, and so if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure your system is secure, you put it to

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<v Speaker 1>the test on the Capture the Flag tournament circuit. In

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<v Speaker 1>this circuit, hackers attempt to reverse engineer software in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to discover flaws in the programming. Anything that can

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<v Speaker 1>be exploited is a potential victory. What DARPA is looking

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<v Speaker 1>for is an automated system, a computer that can do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as hackers. In an ideal world, a

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<v Speaker 1>computer program could analyze billions of lines of code, discover

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<v Speaker 1>any flaws, and even write a patch to remove the

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerability before anyone could take advantage of it. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and sixteen, DARPA will hold an all computer Capture

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<v Speaker 1>the Flag tournament. It will take place during the def

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<v Speaker 1>Con conference in Las Vegas. Will computers be able to

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<v Speaker 1>dissect software with the same precision as human hackers. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to check back in two thousands sixteen to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank Gil Pratt for talking with me

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<v Speaker 1>about the Robotics Challenge and the Robots for US competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to hear more about how it

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<v Speaker 1>all turns out. I'm also curious what the next big

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<v Speaker 1>challenge from DARPA might be. Got any ideas While we're

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