1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: us too. 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Our number two of the drive here on your twenty 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: four to seven Home of the Black and Gold, you 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: learn Williamson rolling through our weekly mock draft before we 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: get to your tweets to get. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Up out of here. Our number two. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: It will be our last hour for almost a week 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: from Studio proper, as we'll be jetting off to Phoenix, 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: Arizona for the league meetings. We'll have a bonus Sunday 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: show for you never miss a Sunday show, Matt. In 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: the first half of the week, we'll be doing our 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: shows from Arizona, bonus hour two three hour shows. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll have some fun guests the owners meetings, moving 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: and shaking all of that. Yeah, who knows we were 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: We were even joking with TV. Maybe we'll get some 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: Marion Rodgers news that'll blow our doors off and be 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: and be great for the content on. 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: His name comes up. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: I would be shocked if. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: It didn't, especially considering it'll be Mike McCarthy's first foray 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: of doing this as the Steelers head coach. So, Matt, 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 3: we have three third round picks here to close down 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: this exercise, and uh yeah. 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: We're kind of talking off the air too, like you 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: gotta be done at receiver yesh two. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: And let's and I know that most of you listened 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: to the podcast through and all that, but for some 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: of those who might have missed, or if you're listening 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: on the live stream, we made a couple of trades. 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: We traded down to pick twenty nine, got Maxie and 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Hre the offensive lineman out of Arizona State. With that, 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: we got an extra second round pick, so we picked 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: at fifty three and fifty eight in the second round, 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: which I love. We also got an extra third round 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: pick for twenty twenty seven, which doesn't affect this exercise, 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: but gives us extra capital and hopefully the pursuit of 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: a quarterback next year. So at fifty three and fifty 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: eight we doubled up on wide receivers Ted Hurst and 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Elijah Surratt. 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: And I would I sign up for this right now? 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: And we still have our three third round picks to 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: make here as well. 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wanted to get to that. I mean, okay, 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind a pure guard, you know, and you 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: know me, I'm always gonna be like, throw me an 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: extra lineman mix. I'll get greedy there at some point 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: that folks say are going to draft a tight end, 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: I can't imagine being the third round. 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Agreed. 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: I think at some point they still probably draft a 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: running running back, not in the third day. 55 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Three. 56 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd lean towards not drafting a quarterback at all. 57 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: Same, I'm going more and more that direction unless it's 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: the sixth round. Yeah, yeah, Nusts is still there or something. 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, at the end of the draft, different story than 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: at least our conversation, I would think a safety probably 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: should be amongst the top priorities at this point. I 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: would agree, maybe over the course of the rest of 63 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: the draft you draft two defensive backs, a safety and 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 4: nickel or an outside corner. That's a project. I got 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: no problem with the linebacker. 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Got no problem with the linebacker. 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: I got no problem with the linemen either. Same, But 68 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, none of those I mean, safety 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: is one I think you have to take. It doesn't 70 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: have to be this pick or anything of that nature. 71 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: But that's the only one that I would say of 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: these three picks, we better come away with a safety. 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: I would think so too. I think one of these 74 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 4: three picks should be a safety. Now. I know we're 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: not going to do this because we're gonna you know, 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: perpentually trades with the whole league. But if you could 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: give me a next year second for any of these 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: picks right now from any team, I would do that too, 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: even with the next year third that we picked up 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: sold Like I mean, think about it. I mean hypothetical, 81 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna. 82 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: Have your first, which is funny, Baltimore's offering us their 83 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: third round pick from next year for this pick right now, 84 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: which I do. 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm about to do a third for a third. 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: For next year. Well yeah, but we also were not 87 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: trained with the vision. It's invalid. 88 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: So I meant, I know that it's not gonna work 89 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: out this way. But if we ended up with the players, 90 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: we have two thirds next year Chiefs and Steelers, two 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: seconds Steelers, and whoever offers us one for this next pick, 92 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: we still get two more picks this day. Oh, by 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: the way, you might trade Mike Tomlin for a first 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: round pick. 95 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Still on the cards, still on the table. 96 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: And you could enter one of what people think are 97 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: one of the best drafts in the league. With two first, 98 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: two seconds, two thirds or something along those lines. You know, like, 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: that's not that crazy. 100 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: Sign up for that, right now, yeah, right, right right? 101 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: So round three underway here the Saints leading off. This 102 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: was from the Cardinals pick that was up that they 103 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: used to trade up for Ty Simpson. 104 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: They take Jack Galladay, linebacker out of Cincinnati. Titans take 105 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: cash as how sixty six overall edge from A and M. 106 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: Skyler Bell goes off the board sixty seven to the Raiders. Second, 107 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: I think maybe just second or third tight end that's 108 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: gone off the board here, justin jolly for NC State. 109 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: For the Eagles, Jenarian Price, the other Notre Dame running back, 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: goes off the board to the Texans. Brown's on the clock. 111 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: At picked seventy take Parker Brailsford the center from Bayama 112 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: role Todd Rowl And as I like to joke the Commanders, 113 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't this be fitting if our former president R. Mason 114 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Thomas ended up in the nation's capital as he does 115 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: here at pick seventy one. As Matt always says, it's 116 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: just R doesn't stand for anything. His first name is 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: just aw R. And doesn't that sound like the most 118 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: George Washington thing you've ever arrow? Thing you've ever heard, 119 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln Taft, some of these other old time presidents. 120 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: Seventy two the Bengals on or the Ravens on the 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: clock part of me. They trade up here to draft 122 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: Jennings Dunker, the guard out of Iowa. The Ravens do okay, 123 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: even been av interest, he would have been seventy two. 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: The Saints back on the clock. They take another there's 125 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: another center goes off the board here, Connor lou out 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: of Auburn. 127 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: Good Senators can go all day long. 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: This man just two picks away. This would have been 129 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: interesting if he would have lasted to seventy six. Emitt Johnson, 130 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: the running back from Nebraska, goes to the Chiefs. 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: A good year. 132 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: It's seventy four. 133 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: And then another guy we might have been interested in, 135 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: Kayln Rutledge, the guard from George. 136 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: He was kind of one. I was kind of hoping 137 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: for good athlete. I think he would fit. 138 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: Goes seventy fifth to the Dolphins right before were on 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: the clock. Man so biggest highest ranked on the big board, 140 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 2: still available. Caleb Banks is still available. 141 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: I was about to throw that out. This might be 142 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: I think he's got to do it. 143 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: I think so too, because the safety's Kamari Ramsey, Lewis Moore. 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, there's some questions about Banks. He's 145 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: a bad tackler, he's got a broken foot, there's some effort, 146 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: things that aren't always great. But at this price for 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: what he brings to the table, and say, hey, Cam, 148 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: here's your project. Whip this guy into shape with the 149 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: other young pops. 150 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: And it'd be different. I think if there was somebody 151 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: that much of him, I think it'd be different. There 152 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 3: was somebody else that we loved here too. But right, 153 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: and you're back on the clock. 154 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like your bonus prize for trading down. 155 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: I get to roll the dice on. Let's do it 156 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: the most most talented defensive tack. 157 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: He ended up being the best defensive lineman out of 158 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: this draft. 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, he absolutely can. 160 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 2: Can you get him with your fourth pick? 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Harmon and Benton and all these guys are gonna 162 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: be ahead of on the depth chart. He's gonna have 163 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: to earn his way to get playing time. 164 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: I love it. 165 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: Let's take Caleb Banks. That'll make Max Starks go, yeah, yeah, chump, 166 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm actually well, I would assume we'll get Max to 167 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: come on with us at some point. I'm sure we 168 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: got to talk to him about Kayleb Banks for sure. 169 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. One asked m about Max from Arizona State too, 170 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: neck of the wood. 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. So let's lock it in pick seventy six. 172 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: After going with three straight offensive picks, we go to 173 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball and we take one, 174 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: an easy one at this point, at this juncture, at 175 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: pick seventy seven, the Bucks take Josiah Trotter, linebacker. That 176 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: would mean Matt to two picks in the top seventy 177 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: seven of former defensive Mountaineers who left for greener pass. 178 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: Can't say, can't say I blame him, but man, it 179 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: would be nice to It would have been nice to 180 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: still have them in the old Golden Blue. 181 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: Danny Dennis Sutton, the edge rusher from Penn State, goes 182 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: to the Bears. Back to back Ninney Lions drafted here. 183 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Drew Shelton, the Penn State tackle, goes seventy nine to 184 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: Atlanta Packers. On the clock, they take Julian Neil, the 185 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: corner out of Arkansas, and at pick eighty one, Big 186 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: Citrus Dominique Orange. It goes to the What would kind 187 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: of kind of be fitting for Big Citrus to end 188 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: up in Florida Jacksonville there at pick eighty one. Joshua 189 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: Joseph's edge rusher from Tennessee goes to the Vikings at 190 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: seventy two. Oh man, I was hoping he would last. 191 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: Kamari Ramsey, the safety from USC. Yeah, he three to 192 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: the Panthers, and the Bengals make a trade here to 193 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: pick eighty four to take Deontay Laws in linebacker from Alabama. Okay, so, Matt, 194 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: here's what we're working with. Still on the big board. 195 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Grayson Houghton, I don't think we're double dipping 196 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: on defense. 197 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: I don't think it'd even have a roster spot for him. 198 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there's still a lot of big name tight 199 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: ends available. Eli Stower's is still there, Michael Trigg is 200 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: still there, Oscar Delp is still there. 201 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: Delp's really exciting. All those names are enticing. But I 202 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: just think it's a little early. 203 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: For I want you want to talk safeties here. 204 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 4: Lease, these linebackers guards, Okay, to me, seemed like the 205 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: spots of most need safeties. 206 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: Lewis Moore out of Indiana. We do. 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: Lewis Moore is unbelievably interesting. He's really really good. But 208 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: I think he's twenty six or twenty five, Like he's 209 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: unusually old. Okay, but he's. 210 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he started college in twenty nineteen. Gow that 211 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: was before COVID. 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: I mean, he was an integral part for them. But 213 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to take your third 214 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: safety developmental safety to be that old for this team. 215 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: That's pretty old. 216 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: But he was really good for the national title team. 217 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: Jalen Kilgore still there, Bud Clark's still there, is the 218 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: key Wheatley is still there. 219 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: I like go three of those names. I do too, 220 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: that'd be fine. 221 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: Do you have a preference out of those four? Probably Clark, 222 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: he's got some speed. 223 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say Clark. But okay, that's that's something 224 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: to think. We must be picking again really soon. 225 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: We are picking again in yes, uh, fourteen picks. 226 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, a little longer. 227 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: So this is pick eighty five. We're back on the 228 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: clock at pick ninety nine. 229 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: Ninety nine, all right, so. 230 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: That's the safetyse linebackers still available. Aiden Fisher out of 231 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Indiana Harold Perkins, who we've discussed out of LSU. 232 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Matt. Kyle Lewis is still on the board here as well. 233 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: I don't think he's a real linebacker though, if you're 234 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: looking for, like Queen's the only thing. 235 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, if we hadn't taken Caleb Banks a few picks ago, 236 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: I might say, let's take Kyle Lewis here and ro Yeah, yeah, yeah, 237 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: but I don't know if I want two guys with now. 238 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: To be fair to Lewis, it's not injury and stuff 239 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: like that, but it's just where does he fit? 240 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: What do we do with them? 241 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Right? 242 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: Really gonna get your hands on and see what you 243 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 4: can do with them. 244 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: Right, But there's still marks there, Yeah, just like different 245 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: different ones, but same church, different pew of of Caleb Banks. 246 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can go back to back projects. Yes, 247 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: although man I and again I know you don't hear 248 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: this from a mountain heer very often, but I'm very 249 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: intrigued by by. 250 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got some stuff about him, right. 251 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: And then what was the other one you said, guard right? 252 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Want to run through let's see. 253 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: I think Max would start his career there. 254 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you could still at this point that, uh, 255 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: this guy's name is maybe the toughest to pronounce in 256 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: the draft. The guard out of Oklahoma, Fabecci Way Waiwo. 257 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: I believe it is how he pronounces his last name. 258 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: Cage Casey from Boise State, bo Stevens from Iowa, Jaden 259 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: Roberts from Roll Tide Roll Jalen Farmer from the University 260 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: where Matt writes a bunch of tuition checks in Kentucky. 261 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: And Nez Cooper Guard from Miami. Fernando Carmona Junior out 262 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: of Arkansas. 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: Okay, nobody's really blowing my scart up. I like the 264 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: safeties better. 265 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: I like the safeties as well. I'm thinking Bud. 266 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: Clark, Yeah yeah, I think you do it. 267 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: Should we lock it in? 268 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, let's do it. 269 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 270 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: Let's take Bud Clark. Let's take a true safety as 271 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: much as I would be very tempted to take Kyle 272 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: lewis there. I am not gonna lie, but let's see 273 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: how this all shakes out. Okay, So at seventy no 274 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: part of me eighty five, we lock in Bud Clark. 275 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: We get our safety out of TCU Oscar Delp tight 276 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: End from. 277 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: He Went Nuts at their pro day. 278 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: Crazy Yeah, freak athletic tight end out of Georgia goes 279 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: eighty six to the Chargers. Lewis Moore, the safety for Indiana, 280 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: goes just two picks later to the Bengals, so we'd 281 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: be seeing him in division. Bryce Lance, Trey Lance's younger brother, 282 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: wide receiver out of North Dakota State, goes to the Jags. 283 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: Hezekia Massis corner from cal goes to du Bears. By 284 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: the way, the amount of duh Pope T shirts that 285 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: I saw walking around Wrigleyville, Yeah, so many people with 286 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: du Pope T shirt's on. Tristan Tristan Lee picked ninety, 287 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: the tackle out of Clemson, goes to the Dolphins. K 288 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: Tron Allen, one of the Penn State run backs we 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: discussed with Jack Hamm, goes ninety first to the Bills. 290 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Demond Claiborne, the running back from Wake Forest, goes to 291 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. 292 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 293 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: He's exciting, he's a big play threat man. 294 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: And you know what, it's funny, yes, and he's flying 295 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: under the radar. I don't know if it's just because 296 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: he went to Wake or whatever, but he's a home 297 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: run hitter. 298 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: He'd be different than what the Steelers have in the back. Yes, 299 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: you're looking for explosives. He definitely generates that. 300 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys with back to back picks here due to one 301 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: of those trades. They go Daryl Jackson Junior, the defensive 302 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: tackle out of Florida State who we talked about. 303 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: On Wednesday, doesn't hurt us after taking Banks. 304 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: Another defensive tackle, Grayson Houghton, goes to the Ravens at 305 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: ninety four. I would have loved this guy to be 306 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: on the board. Eli Stower's the tight end from Vandy, 307 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: goes at ninety five to the Patriots. Davison Ig bay 308 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: Noson Corner out of Ohio State to the Seahawks, Jonah 309 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: Coleman running back from Washington ninety seven to the Vikes, 310 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: and Zachariah Branch at pick ninety eight across the Commonwealth 311 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: to the Philadelphia. 312 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: It's late for Branch, not that we were really in 313 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: that market, but. 314 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Yes, so on the clock with pick ninety nine. This 315 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: is going to be our last one of this exercise. 316 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: A reminder, we have taken Maxi and Hure. We traded 317 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: back a couple of times, picked up a lot of 318 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: extra capital. Still got mad Max at twenty nine. Then 319 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: at fifty three and fifty eight with our extra second 320 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: round pick, we double up on wide receivers. We're eating 321 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: greedy over here, Matt Williamson ted Hurst from Georgia State 322 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: and Elijah Serrat from Indiana. Then we go Caleb Banks so. 323 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: Quick on those receivers. Sarratt is really far advanced in 324 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: terms of like technical route running, the intricacies of the 325 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: position displayed for a national title. We take the other 326 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: guy is more talented, but he comes from a super 327 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: small school. You think his adjustment is learning curves would 328 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: be a lot greater. So I really like the combination 329 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: of those two. I mean not only do I like 330 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: the players in a bubble, but the matching of the 331 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: two I think fits pretty well too. 332 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: I love it. And then it picked seventy six. He 333 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: still on the board. 334 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: We take a swing on Caleb Banks, the talented but 335 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: question marked defensive tackle out of Florida, and then at 336 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: eighty five Bud Clark, we get our safety out of 337 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: TCU picked ninety nine, back on the clock and Matt, 338 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: we've got some options. Man Malik Muhammad, the corner from Texas, 339 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: is still there. 340 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good player. I mean that's you. Never 341 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: turn your nose up at a corner. 342 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: Never turn your nose up at a value position with 343 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: somebody who who might you know, be surprised that. 344 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: He's still there. 345 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. 346 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: Also, Max Claire and Michael Trigg, two talented tight ends, 347 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: are both still on the board. Okay, any other position 348 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: you want to see running. 349 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: Back, I'm just curious who best available is? 350 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: Okay, best available in general, Malik Mohammad, Max Clair to 351 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: Carrio Davis, the corner out of Washington. 352 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: He was in for a visit. He's the project long fast. 353 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: Jalen kilgorel that we just took a safety and I 354 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: don't think we'll double up. Brian Parker the second, the 355 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: center from Duke. We're not going center. Michael Trigg, who 356 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: I think is just a freak. 357 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 358 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: Brandon Thompson wide receiver from Mississippi State, Isaiah World tackle 359 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: from Oregon, Austin Barber tackle from Florida. 360 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: That looks like it's it. 361 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: For the you know, kind of the the big names, 362 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: if you will. Za Key Wheatley is still there, Kyle 363 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: Lewis is still there, Malachi Fields is still there. Seth 364 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: mcgallan the running back from Kentucky. Still there, Kaylon Black, 365 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: the running back from Bama's still there. The other Penn 366 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: State guy, Nicholas Singleton running back, still there. 367 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: Anybody jumping out at you, We've. 368 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: Got some options here. I might consider Kyle Lewis here. 369 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: Say linebacker doesn't break my heart. I don't know if 370 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: he's a linebacker or not. 371 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: I would probably lean there or one of the tight 372 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: ends at this point because I think getting Max Player 373 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: or Michael Trigg here would be would be pretty good value. 374 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: I think I like the tight ends better, same as 375 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: prospects say, it's not really much of a need, but 376 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: I mean they're good players. 377 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Good players. 378 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think both those guys coincidentally, they're best 379 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: football's ahead of them completely. Claire, as always happens at 380 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 4: Ohio State, gets overshadowed by the receivers. Triggs has got 381 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: a ton of ability. Claire actually was mostly a baseball 382 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 4: player for a lot of my life, and you're kind 383 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: of new to it as well. I like both those guys. 384 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: I do too, your pick. I know Triggs one of 385 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: your guys. 386 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: He is, but I've been warming up to Claire. Yeah, yeah, 387 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: I really have. 388 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: And there's less off the field question marks with Maxwell. 389 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: Definitely is Michael Trigg, I think, and this is, you know, 390 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: like we just had this conversation with wide receivers with 391 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: Hurst and Surrat. 392 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: I think Claire has the higher floor. Trig has the 393 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: higher ceiling. 394 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: Probably probably, And Claire's not bad in terms of. 395 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Seating, No, No, definitely not in terms of what you 396 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: already have in the room too. I think I'd be 397 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: comfortable going with Max Claire because I think you'll find 398 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: a way. Absolutely, I think you'll find a way to 399 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: use him and get him on the field. 400 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: So I don't know how this would even fit in 401 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: because I think Washington will get a long term extension 402 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: and I really hope he does. I don't want him 403 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: to go anywhere in a long time, and they are 404 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: going to play less two and three tight end sets. 405 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: But could Friar moveth be trade bait in a year 406 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: or in the offseason Washington has a great year and 407 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: Claire super impressive or whatever. I don't know. Just we 408 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: need this many picks. It's just draft good FOOTBA. 409 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: Player, draft good football payer. 410 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 411 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: Right now, I think the two best available unless we 412 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: go Malik Muhammad would be the two tight ends. Yeah, 413 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: we've gone so far, three offensive players, two defensive players. 414 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: That's fine. I think it'll be a little bit heavier 415 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: offensive draft. 416 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: Too, I wouldn't he I'm good with taking Max Claire here. 417 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: If that works with you, let's do it. Let's lock 418 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: it in. So there is our haul for this Friday 419 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: edition of the Weekly Mock Draft. 420 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: We make a couple of trades. 421 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: We pick up an extra second rounder this year, we 422 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: pick up an extra third rounder next year. We come 423 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: away with Maxie and Hure ted Hurst, Elijah Surat, Caleb Banks, 424 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: Bud Clark, and Max Claire. 425 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: And don't forget folks. So I don't know if we 426 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: mentioned these exact words enough, but the Steelers have the 427 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: most picks in this entire draft of any team. So 428 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: you would leave with this haul on Friday night, return 429 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: to your abode. Shit had two fourths and other stuff too. Like, 430 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: after a while, it gets hard to put these, you know, 431 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: find spots for them all. Yes, it does, which is 432 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: a wonderful problem to have. 433 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: That's a very. 434 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: Good problem to have, certainly is let's take our first 435 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: break of hour number two. 436 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: Here. 437 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: You all know the drill we're gonna hit the tweets 438 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: on the bottom half of the hour here Before we 439 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: get up out of here for the weekend and head 440 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: to Phoenix, Arizona for the owner's meetings tomorrow, we'll cross 441 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: some te's dot some eyes. Get to your questions, comments, concerns, 442 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: and reactions you' learn. 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Of course, folks, 457 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: you know what that means. 458 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: We are. 459 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Just going to roll through these tweets here, Matt in 460 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: these a bunch, we sure do too much to handle. Here, 461 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Matt is going to lead us off on the tweets 462 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: and says, if you were to create a quarterback in 463 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: a lab, what would be your ideal traits? Quick processor, 464 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: someone who can make all the throws, someone who can 465 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: scramble for the first down when you need high bar 466 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: of athleticism, right body type, what are your thoughts? I mean, 467 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: all those things if you're going perfectly ideal. 468 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're fielding them in a lab. I mean, 469 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 4: if you're. 470 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Fielding him in a lab, he's gonna be perfect. 471 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: Right science in it, you know, I mean the uh? 472 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: I forget what podcast I was listening to about previewing 473 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: just this quarterback class, and they kind of had this conversation, 474 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: and I liked one of the host's answers. They said, 475 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 4: do everything fast and kind of quick, but don't hurry, 476 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like quick processor quick. I mean, 477 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: the game just happened so fast that I think that, Like, 478 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: that's my problem with Drew Awler. Everything's slow and deliberate, 479 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: you know, like people be like, well, Brady didn't do 480 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: it fast, he did I mean, everything pre snap was fast. 481 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 4: Everything post snap was fast. Even though he wasn't a 482 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: great runner, watch him move in the pocket. All his 483 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: movements are sudden and fast and quick and abrupt. That 484 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: might be number one something I talk about a lot. 485 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: And everyone's always like, well, this guy's a Jim Ratt, 486 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: you know, first one in the building, last one to leave, 487 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: you know, the hardest working guy on the Florida Gators 488 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: or Florida State or whatever. And to me, that only 489 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 4: gets you in the door. Yes, Like okay, now you 490 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: can be considered, yes, because this position is so hard. 491 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: If you don't have that good luck, you're not gonna 492 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: make it, you know what I mean, that's just that. 493 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: Just let you sit at the poker table. That's the ante, 494 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: you know, that's just that's all you. 495 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: That's a buying. 496 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: That's your buying. You're allowed to play with everybody now 497 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 4: and at least be in the conversation. So that almost 498 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: to me, goes without saying. 499 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: That is the Always one of the biggest red flags 500 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: to me is when someone's like, what do you like 501 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: about this guy? 502 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: He's such a hard worker, nobody's as prepared as he is. 503 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: Like, well, the guys he's going to play against on Sunday. 504 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: Are just as prepared, if not more. 505 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: Exactly right, I don't have to go to class and 506 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: do all these other things. They're professional football players. 507 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: And then they go home and study tape and then 508 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: they spend a million dollars on their body and coaches 509 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: and everything. 510 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, personal trainers and quarterback coaches and yeah. 511 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: Now, I will say that position is probably the hardest 512 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: to answer of all because you need all of them. Yeah, 513 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: you could be short on one or two, or you know, 514 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: lackluster on one or two, but to rank them all 515 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: is pretty tough. But I like the answer I heard 516 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: recently about do everything fast, you know, think fast, act fast, 517 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: move that fast, yeah, fast release. I like it. 518 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: I want to go fast. I want to go fast. 519 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: I want to go fast. Ricky Bobby Joe tweets and 520 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: said that is. 521 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: One something hy Simpson does. Yeah, he's a quick processor reliever, 522 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 4: you know guy. 523 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, his dad was a one double a head coach 524 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: for twenty years. I mean you'd think he has a 525 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: high football IQ and yeah, yeah that makes a lot 526 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: of sense. 527 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: And his movements are sudden, ball comes out pretty quick. 528 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: You. 529 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: I mean, he does do things fast. 530 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: Joe tweets us and says, it feels to me like 531 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: the only other viable choice besides Aaron Rodgers is Jimmy Garoppolo. 532 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: He's a name that isn't ever really discussed though. What 533 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: do you guys think? 534 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: I don't like that at all? 535 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. 536 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: If it's not Aaron Rodgers, I don't want the Kirk 537 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: Cousins Jimmy g I. 538 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: Was gonna say the opposite. I mean, I think you settle, 539 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: you'd rather have cousins, cousins. Jimmy's just a back, He's. 540 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: Just below to me. To me, is how I feel 541 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: versus the Godfather? 542 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 543 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: I think is those around you think. If it's not 544 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna be Aaron Rodgers, I would rather eat my vegetables 545 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: for a year. 546 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: And I know that that's not how to steal operate 547 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: and that's not how the Steelers do business. So it 548 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: probably would be a Kirk Cousins or a Derek Carr 549 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: or Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers is the only 550 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: one from that crop that I look at and go, Okay, 551 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: you could win the division again, and with a better roster, 552 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: maybe you want to playoff game with those other guys. 553 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: I just I don't see it. 554 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying, and people were just like, 555 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: put Will Howard in. He might be awesome. I haven't 556 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: even seen him play a professional. 557 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: I would start the season with Mason Rudolph. 558 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeactly. 559 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, I get what. 560 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: You're saying, And there is an argument for that approach 561 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: if Rogers like I'm retired, I'm done, you know, And 562 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: what does cousins or car get you? Not much? 563 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: Nine wins? 564 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: Not much? I mean more of the same. Probably. I'm 565 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: not sure Rogers is a whole lot different than that 566 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: at this point, but at least there's bouts of being 567 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: MVPs and things of that nature in his past. Now, 568 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: if you were to take that approach, I probably then 569 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: would be like what if you trade for Anthony Richardson? Yeah, 570 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean one of those like reclamation projects. I'm not 571 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: big on Will Levis, but like, I mean, somebody like that. 572 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: We've got a tweet from somebody asking us about Will Levis. 573 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: Who was it? It was? 574 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: Chef Plumb asked us about Will Levis if we have 575 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: any interest in, you know, getting him on a cheap 576 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: old deal. Not really those ones Anthony Richardson would be 577 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: the one that I would Yeah. 578 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean it was fourth pick in the draft, and 579 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: I mean there's ability there, yea, yeah, yeah, and I 580 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: would at least want to take one of those bites. 581 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: As for Levis, it's too early to say he stinks 582 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: forget about him. I mean, he was the first second 583 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: pick in the draft or second pick in the second round, 584 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: right after Joey Porter Jr. He looked really bad since 585 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: he was here. But he's also sort of the Drew 586 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: Aller poster boy of doesn't do anything fast. I mean, 587 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 4: he's a lumberer. He's not a bad athlete, but he 588 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: nothing's quick twitch about him. He doesn't think quick. 589 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: He's got a good arm, but not great arm. 590 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: And he might go somewhere and totally might reclaim his career. 591 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: I'm not writing that off, but they'd have to be 592 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: the right guy for the Steelers to approach that stuff 593 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: because there's not much room. And wouldn't you rather just 594 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: draft nuts in the third round? 595 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: Do that? Yeah? Right, right right? You know, if you're 596 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: gonna do that, one of our regulars, Smooth Dave, says, 597 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: can you take me to the school of Matt Williamson? 598 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: I understand the lines are blurred in the modern NFL, 599 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: but can you give me a quick primer explain the 600 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: differences between slot corner, nickel corner, star position, box, safety, 601 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: dime linebacker. 602 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: I think basically slot. 603 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: Corner, nickel corner are the same thing. 604 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: Unless you just want to say the fifth guy off 605 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: the bench is the nickel because it's now five. 606 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: It's it's the it's the Brandon Eckles role, it's the 607 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: Mike Yeah role, Feeney Bishop role. I'm trying to think 608 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: of all the guys that have played that recently, what 609 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: we think Jalen Ramsey is going to do this year. 610 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: I mean, technically the fifth guy in he could be 611 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 4: That's where you get the term nickel from. Yeah, I mean, 612 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: he could be little, he could be big, whatever. And 613 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 4: usually that's gonna be a slot because there's not really 614 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: a slot that exists anyway. What were the other one. 615 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: Star, position, box, safety, dime linebacker. 616 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 4: They're all pretty darn close. I mean it really a 617 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 4: lot of it just comes down to what the teams 618 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: call you. Star is also five star, five points of 619 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: a star. 620 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: Some call it spear, don't they too. 621 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: Maybe, especially that we start to get into college terminology too. 622 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: You'll find YZ with wide receiver. Yeah, I mean, it's 623 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: just different ways of labeling things. 624 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 4: Like Ramsey when he was a ram was their star. 625 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: It's what they called him. He played a lot. It's 626 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 4: not much different though than a big nickel or what 627 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: he's doing here. It's near the line of scrimmage. Strong 628 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: safety is a little different. That's old school. Donnie Shell's 629 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: a strong, Mike Wagner's. 630 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: A free Ryan clar. 631 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: Earl Thomas is the free camp champions, you know, like 632 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: a lot different than the other type of safety. But 633 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: dime linebacker is also. I have six defensive backs on 634 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 4: the field, I probably have four defensive linemen. That leaves 635 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: one guy and that's your dime linebacker, you know. So 636 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: for the Steelers that's Queen. You know, he never leaves 637 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: the field. I mean that just means he's in on 638 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: the dime package. Now, someone might look at like Kyle 639 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: Lewis and be like, he's an ideal dime because it's 640 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: third and twelve. 641 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: And he can run downfield and get. 642 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: A lots linebacker experience. He's seen the game from a 643 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: linebacker's perspective. He's seen guards double team people in front 644 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: of him, blah blah blah. But he if he gives up, 645 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: you know something, in the run game, it's still third 646 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: and twelve. Will gang tackle and get there? You know? 647 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: So the reality is there's a lot of overlap in 648 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: all those terms. 649 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's all just what language or defensive coordinator 650 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: wants to speak a lot of it. Yeah, It's like 651 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: yes means the same as C. It's just a different 652 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: way to say it, a different line. 653 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you know. 654 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: See that's yes in Spanish. For those of you unfamiliar, 655 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: Lou tweets us and says love the show Boys. Well, 656 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: thank you, Lou. 657 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: The question I have is why does Penn State count 658 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: as a local visit when it is way out of 659 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: the fifty mile radius hashtag H two P. 660 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: I think it's only if you're from here. 661 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm just I'm just glad that he didn't He 662 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: didn't say wvu he pointed out Penn State in that regard. 663 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: I don't think every Penn State is free again, I 664 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: don't are they have them all here? I think it's 665 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: where you grew up. If you grew up in nearby 666 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: and happen to go to Penn. 667 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: State Joey Porter Junior. 668 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's what it is. I 669 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: think I think a local visit is either your college 670 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: is in the radius or. 671 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: But like but then wvew's outside of that fifty mile radius. 672 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: It's not by much, and maybe there's an exception. But 673 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: like Zach Fraser counted as a local visit. 674 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, I think. 675 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: And that's like seventy miles, yeah, I mean sixty some miles. 676 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: It's just outside of that fifty miles. 677 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: You know that he was a local. I think Emma 678 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 4: was put positive he was too. I think they're kind 679 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: of flexible with the rules. 680 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: I think there's a little Okay, it's fifty miles, but 681 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: if the guys sixty two will count. 682 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know how strict they are like that. 683 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: Don't know what they put a fence up. You know 684 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: that you had to be born in this area or 685 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: from this area. Let's see, just because you went to 686 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: Penn State, I know that doesn't count. Or they would 687 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: have all or they'd have them all here. I mean 688 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: at Penn State is so many of them. Why wouldn't 689 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: you have guys every year? 690 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: So Zach Frasier was logal to fall under the local 691 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: visit category. 692 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: And some of his information is not always one hundred 693 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: percent easy to find. 694 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: He did top thirty visits with the Bears, the Lions, 695 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: the Bengals, the Cowboys, the Bucks, the Chargers, and the Dolphins. 696 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: It's a lot of moving around. 697 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: Maybe this is something we can I know it might 698 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: not be high on the priory. That is a lot 699 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: of moving around. I know it might not be high 700 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: on the priority list. But maybe this is something we 701 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: can try and find a more dedicated answer to. Next 702 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: week we're around some more of the uh. 703 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they knows the answer either. I 704 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: just know that just because you went to Penn State 705 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you count okay, because then they have everyone. 706 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good point. Bring them all in, why. 707 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: Not, right, if they're all free, I'd bring in every 708 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: Penn State draft BOL player every year, and they don't. 709 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: And all of them. 710 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, But then wouldn't you do the same 711 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: thing for pitt And I don't think they necessarily do. 712 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: I think they do, do they? 713 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 2: And they it might not even be reported. Yeah that's 714 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: a good call, that's a good point. 715 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to them. 716 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm just glad. I'm just glad Lou left WVU out 717 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: of the fight. I'm just glad you keep keep the keystone. 718 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: Uh right, yeah. 719 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: I mean there are at all the small schools, they 720 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: just don't have many guys, you know, right. 721 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's interesting. That's something I would like 722 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: to know the exact parameters on, but maybe there's not exactly. Yeah, 723 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: I think it's maybe it's kind. 724 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: Of loosely enforced based off interesting. 725 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: Let's take our last break of the day. We will 726 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: close with more of your tweets before we get up 727 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: out of here and fly off the Arizona Tomorrow West Yeuler, 728 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the 729 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. 730 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here, 731 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: and while you might not know who your team is 732 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number 733 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has 734 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the 735 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 5: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure 736 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 5: to order around for the table before your team's on 737 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 5: the clock. Bud Light easy to drink easy to enjoy, 738 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 5: enjoyed responsibly. Ann Huser Busch Bud Light Beer, Saint Louis, Missouri. 739 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 740 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 741 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: Final segment of the week Here, final segment from the 742 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: studio proper for a little while as we are taking 743 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: off to the owners meetings tomorrow. Will have a bonus 744 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: Sunday show for you and a lot of great content 745 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: from Arizona next week. But we are going to run 746 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: through as many of these tweets as we can in 747 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: the next eleven minutes ish until we get out. 748 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 4: Of here today. 749 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Let's see here, another one of our regulars, t Mac 750 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: tweets and says a lot of talk about Venga and 751 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: a little bit about pregnant, But can you offer some 752 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: other names that you like at the guard position outside 753 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: of those two? 754 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 4: We talked about this a lot in the mock. 755 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: This is really I really like him out of A 756 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: and M. I really like Rutledge out of Georgia. 757 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 4: Say that's my next That's one of my absolute favorites. 758 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 2: Yep. 759 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: Farmer out of Kentucky, I think desires to be in 760 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: that conversation. 761 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: I think those are the probably the biggest names. 762 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: I would say, I'm sure there's a couple of tackles. 763 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to say the guys the fawn News, the 764 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 2: Maxie and h or you might see doing a little 765 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: the Caden Procters. 766 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 4: Now those guys are expensive, though, yes they are. See, 767 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: the problem is, and this happens every year at this position, 768 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: and there's just not as many names. If you told me, 769 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: tell you the tight ends, you'd be happy drafting. Well, 770 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: here's fifteen names, you know, especially this year at this position, 771 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: they're just not as many. And that's why another one 772 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: of the many reasons why I think round one I 773 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: would break all times for O line. Yeah, it's it's 774 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 4: just a shortage situation. It's supplying to man. 775 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. Frankie tweets us and says, when 776 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: do you know you found your franchise quarterback? Is it 777 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: a fourth quarter comeback? Is it hit when he makes 778 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: a certain number of starts? Is it when he hits 779 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: a certain stat line? When do you know? That's a 780 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: good question, that's. 781 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: A great question, but it's a hard one to answer. 782 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 2: It's kind of like falling in love. 783 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: Matt Williamson, That's exactly what as I say, like when 784 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 4: you know, you know, you know, you know all right, 785 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: right right, I I was gonna say the same thing, 786 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: but then you beat me to it. But then I thought, well, 787 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: Houston thought they knew with Shroud, you know what I mean. 788 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, it's like, well we 789 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: got to pay him now. 790 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: Drag May stumbles out of the gate. Next year, they 791 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: might be saying the same thing in New England, like. 792 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 4: I don't think Washington's worried about Jaden Daniels North should 793 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 4: they be? But one bad year and all of a sudden, 794 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: you don't know. 795 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know what I think. 796 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: It's definitely not like one comeback. No. 797 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, this made me think of the I know I've 798 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 3: told you this before, the motesism, Like Arthur Mots would 799 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: always say, you never crown a guy off a one year. 800 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of guys in this league that 801 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 3: can have a great You could have a great couple 802 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: of games, you could have a great year. But the 803 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: truly great ones do it year after year after year, and. 804 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: Then everybody figures out, everyone figures out what they do well, 805 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 2: and they adapt and evolve their game, and they start 806 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: doing other things better to make them harder to defend 807 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: or prepare for all that. 808 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 3: I think that is the easiest answer is when they 809 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 3: start stacking successful years. 810 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: So, like two examples came to mind while you were chatting, 811 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: Like Mahomes, they trade a for him. They loved them 812 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: on draft day, but he didn't play a football game 813 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: until Week eight teen when they rested Alex the. 814 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: Very last game of the regular season. 815 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but all indications were as he was, like just 816 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: watch him in practice, being around him every day. They 817 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 4: were real comfortable trade Alex Smith after the year because 818 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: they thought they knew, you know, even only even though 819 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 4: he really didn't do anything. He played a meaningless game. 820 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 4: But I think they were around him enough to be 821 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 4: like we love them at Texas Tech. I think I 822 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: love him more being around him now. And then the 823 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: other example I wanted to use, but I wish like 824 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: they were PURSUITO was sitting here because I was not 825 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: close to the Steelers Ben's rookie year, but. 826 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: I bet for the Brands. 827 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and even then I was, you know, it 828 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: was ESPN his early years. I wasn't at training camp 829 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: and things like that. You know, like him now. But 830 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: I bet if you were training camp his rookie year, 831 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: you know, Dale would go to pursuit and be like, oh, 832 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like that afferent? Yeah, like ool, 833 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 4: and then you see it again, and then you see 834 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 4: it again, and then he does it in the preseason 835 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: and then he does it in week six or like Okay, yeah, 836 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 4: I think we got our guy. 837 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes we do. 838 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 3: That's that's a good call too. There's sometimes where you 839 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: just in practice everyone's like this looks a little bit. 840 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 4: Different, right, Yeah, I'll tell you that now. I bet 841 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 4: Mahomes was unbelievable in practice that rookie year. Imagine with 842 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: scout team and ripping up the first team defense. 843 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: Funny fun Like a similar example of that. Back to 844 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: my days of working around the athletic department at WVU. 845 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 3: You remember Will Greer obviously still he's still on the 846 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 3: Cowboys practice squad. I think had a nice college career 847 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: at Florida and then WVU. He was a third round 848 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. His first year that he got to WVU 849 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: was still when you had to sit out. This was 850 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: pre transfer portal. You still had to sit out a 851 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: year transferred in the old school rules. We had a 852 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: quarterback that year named Skyler Howard who was fine. He 853 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 3: was a fine college quarterback. Never did anything the pros, 854 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: but fine college quarterback. We went ten and two that year, 855 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 3: had a really good year. You know, we're ranked, yeah, eleventh, twelve, thirteenth. 856 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: I assume career is practicing with the career was the. 857 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: Practice squad quarterback. 858 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, And despite being having a ten and two top 859 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: fifteen team all year, all I heard from everybody around 860 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: the program was this guy will grow is way better. 861 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: Our best play Yeah, our best player is the practice 862 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: squad quarterback. 863 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 4: We might be twelve to zero with him. 864 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: And that was a ten and two, like get the 865 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: top twenty, top fifteen ranked team. Yeah. So when you 866 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: hear stuff like that, it really I. 867 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 4: Bet read sat the same thing, like Alex smiths per 868 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 4: aren't good, we're twelve and four, but wait till we 869 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: roll this game. Yes, and he was likely and I'm 870 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 4: sure saying was true with Lamar. You know, like Lamar, 871 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: they remember his rookie year. He'd come in for like 872 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: a series or a couple of plays. 873 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: And you've told these stories about Larry before, where you 874 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: got you guys were like, you guys were like going 875 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: into who was the coach at that time, Like, coach, 876 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: throw the ball to Larry. 877 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: I said to JD. The wide receivers guyable, I got 878 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 4: to say, the head coach at the time. But we knew, 879 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: I mean, like we knew he was a big time recruit. 880 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 4: But it was different whenever he came to like his 881 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 4: first training camp, because we had good receivers, I mean, 882 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: Antonio Bryant had just left. We were able to recruit 883 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 4: that position, you know, because he just won the bolittant coff. 884 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: We didn't know Larry was going to win the Bolittanikoff. 885 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 4: But Larry gets there as an eighteen year old, and 886 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 4: we knew he was going to be our best recruit 887 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 4: that year, our best new guy. But basically from day 888 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 4: one on the practice field, he was beaten Shantae Spencer, 889 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 4: Tory Cox. Both those guys were drafted for you know, 890 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 4: his corners. You know, they were really good beating Big 891 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 4: East corners and had good NFL careers, you know, and 892 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 4: they were three years older than them. So it was 893 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: like he might be our best guy. 894 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 3: Now, you know, I know I've told you this story before, 895 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 3: but I was told by people around the program when 896 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: Zach Fraser was a freshman, Yeah, that guy's showing the seniors. 897 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 2: How it's done. 898 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, when he was a. 899 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: Freshman, they were like, he's the leader in that offensive lineman. 900 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: That's how Pounce he was. 901 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: I think, yes, yes, when you start hearing stuff like that, that's. 902 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. I did way back then. I did 903 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: the pregame post game show, and he was my coach 904 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 4: at and I think it was Pouncy's. 905 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: First time you can't escape Us Mountain or so. 906 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: I think it was the first time Pounce he ever 907 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 4: put a helmet on for the Steelers and actually played 908 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 4: a game. And he's like Crowley asked me, He's like, 909 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 4: how good do you think he is? I'm like, he's 910 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 4: I think he's the best guy on the team. He 911 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 4: just came out of his stance and incredible. Was like, 912 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 4: might be their best guy. 913 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: Matthew tweets us and says, uh, how do we feel 914 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 3: about the possibility. Do we believe that the Steelers could 915 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: trade up in the first round to get maybe the 916 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: third or fourth wide receiver on their big board if 917 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: they start getting drafted early. Maybe I wouldn't say fall 918 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: if they went from twenty one to seventeen. 919 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're going real, real far. 920 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 3: Like they did with Roger Jones that year. I think 921 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: that was from what's seventeen to fourteen or something like. 922 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 4: It cost you number ninety nine to do it, So 923 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 4: be it. If you love concepcion or whatever. I would 924 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 4: understand that. Don't get me wrong. I just don't know 925 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 4: that the line of demarcation will be that much different 926 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 4: from sticking or moving up three spots at that position 927 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: right now, agreed. 928 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: Steeler Nation nine to twenty says thanks for turning me 929 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: on to Casey conception own. Wow, phenomenal first. Always seems 930 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 3: to be in the right place at the right time. 931 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 3: Route running is great, body control, keeps his feet, He says. 932 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: I know we're not big on the comparisons, but I 933 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: can see a little number eighty four Antonio Brown and 934 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: that guy Andre tweets us and says, I was a 935 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: big Mike Tomlin fan. I wasn't crazy at first about 936 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: the hiring of Mike McCarthy, but as I've taken my 937 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: I missed Tomlin glasses off and logically, look at all 938 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: the additions coaches and players. I'm very optimistic about what's 939 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: been done. I'm very optimistic about what's being done to 940 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 3: like the coaching staff that they put together, particularly all 941 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: those offensive line coaches on the offensive side of the ball. 942 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: I love that, I really do. Let's see here, man. 943 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: They may have got the exact same dudes if Tomlin 944 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 4: was still here, but I think they did really well 945 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: in free agency roster wise. 946 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Troy tweets us and says, are you guys 947 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 3: going to be at the Dregs? If you are, is 948 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: it possible for me to get a picture maybe an 949 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: autograph with me and my son in law there at 950 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: the event? Love the show, never miss an episode. I 951 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: think we will be very unlikely. I think we're gonna be. 952 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: At the Steelers facility, kind of in. 953 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: Our own bubble where we always are. 954 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: But Troy, if you come to training camp, if you're 955 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 3: able ever to get to Saint Vincent Trobe, we would 956 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: be happy to take a picture for you. 957 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: Sign anything. 958 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: It's still over hilarious to me, but people do ask 959 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 3: us to sound sign terrible towels and things like that. 960 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: Hey, if you want us to, I will. 961 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 4: It'll go down in value. But you're willing to welcome 962 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 4: to ya. 963 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 3: But that's the if you want to get autographs. If 964 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: you want to get pictures with us, usually training camp 965 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 3: is the best place to do it because other than that, 966 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 3: we're kind of like secluded in our own bubble most 967 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 3: of the time. Yeah, Matt, two random ones, funny ones 968 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: to get us out of here for the week. Okay, 969 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: Ryan tweets and says, as a fella, fellow music officionado 970 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 3: and concert gig poster collector, I need to know what's 971 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 3: Wes's most prize poster. 972 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: Hanging in the basement. Two. So I have rules for 973 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: concert memorabilia. 974 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 4: I have a follow up question. 975 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 3: Okay, it either has to be from a show before 976 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: I was born, or it has to be a show 977 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: I went to. 978 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,959 Speaker 2: Those are my rules. Wow, makes sense. 979 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: So I'm hijack just for two seconds. But my co 980 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 4: host Robert Flores with the Football Today podcast in ESPN, 981 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 4: he had these jersey rules, like you can't wear someone 982 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 4: younger than you. 983 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 3: He has a couple of rules like that rule kind 984 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: of similar like that, it either has to be from 985 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 3: a show that happened before I. 986 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: Was born, or it has to be one that I 987 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: went to. 988 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 3: So the two that I would say is I have 989 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 3: a poster from you remember the Stanley Theater in Oakland, Yes, 990 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 3: in the eighties concert venue. My dad's twenty first birthday, 991 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: Wow was January twenty fourth, nineteen eighty six. Was my 992 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: dad's twenty first birthday. My dad and I both love. 993 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: My dad is a classical music guy, but he loves 994 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder, He loves the Police, and he loves Stevie 995 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: ray Vaughn. Those are his favorite rock and roll wheelhouse. 996 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 3: I have Stevie Rayvaughan on my dad's twenty first birthday 997 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: played the Stanley Theater, and I have the concert poster. 998 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: Very Stevie Ravon. Either you were there, no us were there. 999 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 2: But the fact is my dad's twenty. 1000 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: First birthday Mattersburg. 1001 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: At a venue that no longer exists Stevie Rayvon. And 1002 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: then I also have New Year's Day nineteen sixty nine 1003 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 3: Grateful Dead at winter Land, which is an old, iconic 1004 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 3: San Francisco music Other than that's like their home turf, 1005 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 3: and it's like free breakfast at it's like four hours, 1006 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: six hour show, free breakfast at Dawn Two Year's Party. 1007 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 4: Winter Summer sixty nine, so it would be one of those. 1008 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: One of those too. That's pretty cool in terms of 1009 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 3: my most part, like the Dead's Home Court winter Land 1010 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: was there for. 1011 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 1012 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a good way to put it. 1013 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 4: Yes. So my follow up question is is any of 1014 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: it based off value? Like do you know? I don't 1015 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 4: know you have ten of them, you have one hundred 1016 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: of them? I have no idea. Do you know the 1017 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 4: value of them all? 1018 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 3: Yes, some of them are probably worth six hundred and 1019 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars the more expensive real. 1020 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 4: Nice yeah, and I'm sure condition matters, yes, yeah, yeah, yes, 1021 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 4: they holes in him and stuff exactly right. 1022 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: And mine are all like very good condition. 1023 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 4: Nothing frame frame you know type yeah yeah, yeah. 1024 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would say, yeah, I have some that 1025 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: are probably worth a hundred bucks, and then I've got 1026 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 3: a couple that are probably worth six seven hundred. 1027 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. You can stick him on eBay or 1028 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 4: whatever and get something for him. 1029 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: Yes, if I wanted to shirt right right right. 1030 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: I Also, now that you got me on this, I 1031 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 3: have Bob Marley from the Civic Arena concert poster, which 1032 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 3: is pretty sweet too. 1033 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 4: Think of the fog in there. 1034 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stay with the fog. That's what we'll call it. 1035 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 4: Iluke. If you if you were in like the cheap seats, 1036 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 4: you think you could even see Bob by the end 1037 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 4: of the show, No chance, No chance. 1038 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: You might've been feeling a little walk. Hey, it's a 1039 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 2: long way to the top. If you want a rock 1040 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: and roll. 1041 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he should only play outdoor or well well ventilated. 1042 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: Do they have the civic agrena open on that in 1043 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: the roof? 1044 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 4: Luke tweets the pigeons or hovering above? 1045 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: You know, Luke tweets it says random. How do you 1046 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: guys feel about lacrosse? I love lacrosse. I think it's great. 1047 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't know much. 1048 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 3: About it, but my sister played. My sister was a 1049 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 3: whipil champion in lacrosse, state runner up. My sister was 1050 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 3: a good high school lacrosse player. I liked watching her play. 1051 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 3: I like it anytime I'm around it. I have a 1052 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 3: stick because I used to, like, you know, run with 1053 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 3: my sister. It's one of those sports that if it 1054 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 3: was more popular when I was a kid, I think 1055 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: I definitely would have been interested in playing. 1056 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 4: I respect it. I mean, they work hard, it's physical, Yeah. 1057 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: The guy's game is heavy metal. Man, they wail on 1058 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: each other. 1059 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 4: That's what's gonna say. My daughter played eighth and ninth grade. 1060 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 4: That's a tough one. 1061 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 2: That's different. Some of the girls rules are wonky. 1062 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 4: They don't really play defense or you can't touch each 1063 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 4: other because like a buddy of mine I was with 1064 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 4: his daughter was on the team and he played in 1065 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 4: college and I'm really new to it. I'm like, this 1066 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 4: is what you played. 1067 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 2: Like sport, But I like lacrosse. 1068 00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 4: I do. 1069 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know it, i'd be good. 1070 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: I didn't grow up playing or anything, but I but 1071 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a really cool sport. That'll do it 1072 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 3: for us today. Reminder, weird shows next week will be 1073 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Ye yeah, three weeks yees. 1074 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1075 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, business as usual will just be in a different location. 1076 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 3: Will be giving you a Sunday show, We'll be giving 1077 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 3: you a bonus hour, all those good things. But that 1078 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 3: will do it for us today. Thanks to mister TV 1079 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 3: Tyler V on the video side of things. We're gonna 1080 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 3: miss you TV these few days without you in Arizona, 1081 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 3: but we'll see him on the back end of next week. 1082 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 3: For Matt Williamson, Umwess Huler, take care. Everybody will talk 1083 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 3: to you soon from sunny Phoenix, Arizona. As always, you 1084 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 3: know where to find us. It's on your twenty four 1085 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 3: to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation 1086 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network