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Speaker 1: is our official twenty twenty Eastern Conference Playoffs preview podcast.

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Speaker 1: one more thing breaking news here on a Friday morning. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby's got the Bulls hat on, He's got his

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Speaker 1: Bulls shirt on, so let's get to that news. The

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Speaker 1: Bulls fire head coach Jim Boyle and see you later,

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Speaker 1: gall punching out for the final time, taking his hard

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Speaker 1: head off and walking out slowly. What do you think, Trey,

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Speaker 1: he's gone.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls didn't make the bubble, they didn't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: but this still feels like championship number seven. Waking up

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Speaker 4: this morning. You know we're up last night recording. Then

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Speaker 4: I spent a little time out in the parking lot

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Speaker 4: hunting for night crawlers. So I wake up this morning

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Speaker 4: see all these notifications and I think I'm dreaming. There's

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Speaker 4: no way the Bulls actually fired Jim Boylan. There's no way.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls are the biggest story in the league right

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what happened, and it couldn't have come sooner.

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Speaker 4: It could have come sooner, that's the main thing it

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Speaker 4: actually could have because Bulls fans, we were getting nervous.

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Speaker 4: You know. We gave the Bulls a lot of credit

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Speaker 4: for going outside of the organization to get Carniesivus. And

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Speaker 4: you see the way the Nuggets are developing. They're pulling

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Speaker 4: guys named PJ. Doser out in the in the bubble

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Speaker 4: and they're playing while you're thinking, Okay, at least this

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Speaker 4: guy knows how to build a team. But then if

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Speaker 4: you're a Bulls fan, you're also thinking they hired a

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Speaker 4: guy that nobody's really ever heard of, who's surely coming cheap,

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Speaker 4: who wasn't number two. They didn't go for the established name.

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Speaker 4: Sam Presty was linked to the team immediately, and we

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Speaker 4: ended up with a guy who's not going to fire,

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Speaker 4: Jim Boyling. It was looking bad as a cynical Bulls fan,

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Speaker 4: but then to wake up this morning just felt like

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Speaker 4: I was on cloud seven, baby cloud.

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Speaker 1: And I like that. Yeah, Boiling compiled an overall record

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Speaker 1: of thirty nine and eighty four with the Bulls. That's

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Speaker 1: a you know, thirty two win percentage. Is the only

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Speaker 4: Trade you know who Heat Myers.

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Speaker 1: No, Tim Floyd, Timmy Floyd with a worse record. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of names being thrown around. WOJ tweeted

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Speaker 1: for sure that they're considering Nuggets assistant west unseelt junior

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Speaker 5: I mean, Kenny Atkinson is the only one we really

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Speaker 5: so I think he would be a good choice for

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Speaker 5: Bulls just need to get some better players in there

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Speaker 1: Task. Anything to add to this boiling news, You're gonna

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: Yes, not in his honor, though I'll throw some in

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Speaker 3: Hilarious that we're doing an Eastern Conference playoff preview, but

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Speaker 3: first they sneak in there. It's my hope is that

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Speaker 3: Darvin Ham being the head coach of the Chicago Bulls.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm cheering out this on. He was on

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Speaker 3: that the Bulls are starting anew because Jim Boylan did

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Speaker 3: You get Karnaishavs, you get Mark Eversley, It's time to

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Speaker 3: I think for the Chicago Bulls fans out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lee, they got some talent, man, they do.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about them in the playoff preview next year.

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Speaker 6: Who's the best player, Zach Lavine?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, But then you've got some potential young

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Speaker 4: Come on, Lee Zach Lavine twenty five points a game,

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Speaker 4: forty shooting thirty eight from three. If he's doing that

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Speaker 4: Bradley Beal saying he should be an All Star.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think i'd put him quite in that bracket yet.

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Speaker 5: But look, I think wend O Katta is a talented

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Speaker 5: I Alwao like Lowry Makinen. So I really hope whoever

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Speaker 5: But you know, I'm just excited that they actually fired

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Speaker 5: Boylan because you know, no disrespect to Jim Boyler. No

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Speaker 5: one likes he get fired, it sucks, But Carnichivus when

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Speaker 5: Paxson basically said, we're not firing him, We're keeping him

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Speaker 5: that Carnichiavus was able to I mean, who knows actually

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Speaker 5: important that Carnichievus is able to get his guy in

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Speaker 5: a general manager, but you're still basically got John Paxson

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Speaker 5: Demand's any authority that kind of shiffis has, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Would agree with that. So before we move on here, Trey,

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Speaker 1: is there a coach you would like to see the Bulls,

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Speaker 4: The other Jim Boylan. I think it would be a

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Speaker 4: good choice. Jim Boyling with an A. I don't even

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Speaker 4: remember was he a or an? He he was a

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Speaker 4: I would like somebody that people have heard of. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it's Kenny Atkinson, somebody who got the Nets program kind

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Speaker 4: he can get a disparate collection of pieces to play

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Speaker 1: Conference playoff preview. Let's get into it. Let's start breaking

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Speaker 1: down all four of these first round matchups. Guys will

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Speaker 1: throw our predictions for the series at the end of

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Speaker 1: the we'll just go in order, you know. With the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the Eastern Conference, though they didn't

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Speaker 1: got upset was head button, guys, But it's the number

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Speaker 1: one seeded Bucks versus the eighth seeded Orlando Magic Game

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Speaker 1: one Tips on Tuesday, Okay, August eighteenth, at one thirty

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on TNT, Bucks took the season series four

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Speaker 1: to Oh it was a sweet Maybe we'll have another

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Speaker 1: one of those. No Jonathan Isaac for the Magic. That's

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Speaker 1: a key injury for them, Torn acl So keys to

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Speaker 1: the series here, tass, Where do you want to get

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Speaker 1: us started with the Bucks in Magic?

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Speaker 3: Well, if the Bucks are going to give up a

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Speaker 3: game or two or three, probably not, the Magic are

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Speaker 2: In any game in this series.

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Speaker 3: But that's not what the Magic do and that's why

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Speaker 3: They can't really hit from the outside twenty second in the league.

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Speaker 3: Only hit eleven threes per game. And that's why Evan

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Speaker 3: best three point shooters. You have open threes, some of

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Speaker 3: Fournier is a key. I know that's something you probably

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Speaker 3: have to be monstrous. He really is, along with Terrence Ross,

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Speaker 1: They won those games by thirty five points, twenty one points,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not saving anything. This is gonna be a sweep,

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Speaker 4: So to me, the question is what did Chris Middleton

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Speaker 4: a question for the Bucks. It feels like at All

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into our predictions. I'll get it started.

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Speaker 1: I do have Bucks in four. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it is close, like through three quarters

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Speaker 1: It would have helped, of course, if Isaac was guarding

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Speaker 2: I don't see any positives here for the Magic. I'm reaching.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for them because this would be the time

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Speaker 3: And even though we talked about the yeah, the destroying

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Speaker 2: Year.

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Speaker 3: They've the last eight games they've played, Milwaukee's won seven

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Speaker 2: I think this is go.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna feel good just to have a series, to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I go sweep as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Trey, you already said Bucks in four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get the Brooms Bucks and four for me,

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Speaker 4: I think the Bucks will be fired up come playoff time,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 1: Are you also Bucks and four? Do you give them one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, je I just think so many things have to

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Speaker 1: no bubble team has been hit as hard by injuries

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Speaker 1: and COVID nineteen as the Nets. No Durant, no Kyrie,

430
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Speaker 1: no Spencer, didn't Winny, not Torrian Prince, no Wilson Chandler,

431
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Speaker 1: no DeAndre Jordan. I mean, they're not even down there.

432
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Speaker 1: But here are the scrappy Nets playing hard for Jacques Vaughan.

433
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Speaker 1: Keys to this series tasks. We sort of almost got

434
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Speaker 1: into it a little bit on last night's Bubble Wrap,

435
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Speaker 1: the idea of like, ooh, the Nets nearly knocked off

436
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Speaker 1: the Blazers, nearly prevented them from going to the playing game.

437
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Speaker 1: They look like a scrappy bunch. Well you got your

438
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Speaker 1: eye on.

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Speaker 3: Here, Well it's gonna be a I feel like a

440
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Speaker 3: bit of a sexy series, not super sexy, but the

441
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Speaker 3: Nets have kind of up their profile a little bit,

442
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Speaker 3: and I gotta disagree with you that this would be

443
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Speaker 3: an NBA TV series. George Carl, going back to his tweets,

444
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Speaker 3: he said about the Denver Utah series because he's a

445
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: former Denver Utah guy, where's the prime time love NBA?

446
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Speaker 3: Because they've been thrown into the early slots. I think

447
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Speaker 3: this series is sexier than Denver Utah, which is a

448
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Speaker 3: little crazy, but that's not really saying much for the

449
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Speaker 3: sexiness level of this.

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Speaker 1: This would still be an NBA TV series over.

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Speaker 2: The Denver Denver Utah series.

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Speaker 1: You think, yes in the States, yes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, fair, fair yeah, fair, But I think just

454
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Speaker 3: because they played Brooklyn so well, I do think there's

455
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Speaker 3: a little bit more intrigue for this series, but it's

456
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Speaker 3: just it's a bad matchup for the Nets. I think

457
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Speaker 3: they would be better off against the Milwaukee Bucks. That

458
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Speaker 3: would be just because the Bucks aren't playing all that well.

459
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Speaker 3: The Raptors are just gonna grit this gritty Nets team.

460
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Speaker 3: The way they scrapped and fought against the Blazers on

461
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Speaker 3: Thursday Night is just not gonna happen against the Raptors

462
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Speaker 3: team that's so freaking good. Defensively, and Karris Lavert is

463
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Speaker 3: the last guy to score thirty points against the Toronto

464
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Speaker 3: Raptors team. All right, yeah, that's this the last guy

465
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Speaker 3: who's who scored thirty a few months ago, back in February,

466
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Speaker 3: and he's gonna have to go off. But this this

467
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Speaker 3: Raptors defense is gonna find a way, just like they

468
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Speaker 3: did last year, to shut a guy like that down

469
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs if you just have one guy, and

470
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna let Timothy Loilu Cabareaut go

471
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Speaker 3: off or or one of those peripheral guys to go off,

472
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Speaker 3: because they are that type of team. They are that

473
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Speaker 3: type of team that has a bunch of tlcs and

474
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Speaker 3: a bunch of Tyler Johnson's and they know how to

475
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Speaker 3: stop those guys. And they came into the bubble rocking,

476
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Speaker 3: you know, at six and one before they play this

477
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Speaker 3: Friday game. That's meetingless here. They're just so solid. They've won

478
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Speaker 3: eighteen of their last twenty against Brooklyn and I just

479
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Speaker 3: see it continuing because it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't look up and down the rosters. Is there

482
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Speaker 3: an advantage, you could say, Carol Silvert, But when you

483
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Speaker 3: have like four supreme defenders to go after him, and

484
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Speaker 3: the way they play team defense, I just don't I

485
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Speaker 3: don't see all these second and third tier guys being

486
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Speaker 3: able to find daylight against this team and the other

487
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Speaker 3: The factor is the Raptors can lose games when they

488
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Speaker 3: don't score, but against this Nets team, they're going to

489
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Speaker 3: limit them and they're going to be able to score,

490
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Speaker 3: I think on the on the other end, just like

491
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Speaker 3: the Blazers did. So yeah, bad matchup for the for

492
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Speaker 3: the Nets, I think.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the real question, Trey. Are the Raptors going

494
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Speaker 1: to drop game one? Well? Hell does Street continue?

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Speaker 4: It's certainly possible. You know, Task mentions the Bucks being

496
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Speaker 4: a good matchup or the Nets, but I kind of

497
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 4: think the Raptors could be to the Raptors give up

498
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: a lot of three pointers and the Nets take a

499
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Speaker 4: lot of three pointers. Yeah, all you need is a

500
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Speaker 4: super hot shooting night to reawaken those game one demons

501
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: for the Raptors. But I don't know. Eighteen of twenty

502
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Speaker 4: wins over Brooklyn. You know, this is kind of the

503
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Speaker 4: first rival of the massaiyu Jiri era in Toronto, so

504
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: I think they'll take care of business. But it is

505
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Speaker 4: interesting to see if the Nets start off shooting hot

506
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Speaker 4: and they stay hot like we saw against the Blazers,

507
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: you know, that can really put a team on on

508
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Speaker 4: their heels. So it'll be interesting to see if Brooklyn

509
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Speaker 4: actually catches fire offensively for the Raptors. With all those

510
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: threes that the Nets take, there will be opportunities to

511
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: run long rebounds are perfect transition opportunities, and the Raptors

512
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Speaker 4: are the best transition team in the league. But if

513
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Speaker 4: it slows down, if the Nets are able to actually

514
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Speaker 4: get the game into a half court set. We got

515
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Speaker 4: to see Siakam be a go to guy a little bit.

516
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Speaker 4: He should have an advantage against Brooklyn. So let's see

517
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Speaker 4: some of those shit can beak, some of those weird

518
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: spin moves, floaters. You know, the guy has had thirty

519
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: point games in the finals. He can do it in

520
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 4: Round one against the Nats. You just want to see it.

521
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Lee, what do you got your eye on

522
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Speaker 1: with this series?

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Speaker 5: The Raptors will win this series, but they have to

524
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Speaker 5: just survive it as well in terms of their health,

525
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: because I think that's key for Toronto this season. Going

526
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Speaker 5: back to before the suspension, you know, they had a

527
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: lot of guys in and out now coming down here,

528
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 5: everyone was healthy again, a lot of guys have picked

529
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Speaker 5: up a little bumper of bruise along the way. They're okay.

530
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 5: I mean, most guys are going to be resting today.

531
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Speaker 5: But for the Raptors, it's just about surviving and getting

532
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 5: through to those next rounds because they have their hopes

533
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Speaker 5: on getting to you know, no less than the conference finals,

534
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 5: and if they're going to do that, they need to

535
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 5: remain at full strength. I think that is so okay.

536
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: I mean every team needs to be at full strength

537
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Speaker 5: to be their best, but I think it's especially true

538
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Speaker 5: for the Raptors. And so you know, this series is

539
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Speaker 5: going to be physical, I think, and you know, you

540
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 5: see with Brooklyn again last night was a great example

541
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Speaker 5: of that that they're going to fight and they're going

542
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: to scrap, and they're going to put a body on

543
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: guys as well. And you know, a guy like Luawu Cabarerot,

544
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Speaker 5: he's either been really good in the bubble or he's

545
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 5: been really bad. And if he's the sort of guy

546
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 5: who can go out there and score some points and

547
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: then give you something defensively, it's just it's just an

548
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: obstacle that the Raptors need to get over and have

549
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 5: to get over, but they probably want to do it

550
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Speaker 5: as quickly as possible. But I don't think it's going

551
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Speaker 5: to be a I don't think it's going to be

552
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Speaker 5: a sweep series. I think it's going to be one

553
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Speaker 5: of those ones that just sort of the Raptors have

554
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Speaker 5: to grind their way through it and get past this team,

555
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: because you know, that's the thing. Brooklyn has been playing

556
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Speaker 5: well down in the bubble, kind of team that no

557
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 5: one's really been talking about, but they've actually been playing well.

558
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Speaker 6: Last night, they could have easily won that game. So

559
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Speaker 6: they're a good team.

560
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Speaker 5: They're disciplined, they're going to be They're going to give

561
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Speaker 5: everything they have to the Raptors, and it's just not

562
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: going to be a pushover for them. But you know,

563
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: in the end, the Raptors have too much depth and

564
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: too much talent. It's just you want to make sure

565
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Speaker 5: that everyone gets through to that second round, you know,

566
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Speaker 5: with one hundred percent health. And they don't have anyone

567
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Speaker 5: picking up any knocks who Fred's picked up and Kyle

568
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Speaker 5: Lowry has I think Siakam had something and and Noboy's

569
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Speaker 5: got a bit of a knee. I mean, none of

570
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 5: these are major injuries, but if they're dealing with them

571
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Speaker 5: throughout the playoffs, it can affect.

572
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Speaker 6: It can affect that the Raptors out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Nets are in for a rude awakening. I

574
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Speaker 1: will say that, having going from playing the Portland Trailblazers

575
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Speaker 1: last night to them having to play the Raptors in

576
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Speaker 1: Game one, the defense is gonna be a tiny bit

577
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Speaker 1: different with what you're allowed to do against Portland versus

578
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Speaker 1: what you're allowed to do against Toronto. When they're locked in,

579
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Speaker 1: and you would expect they would be trying to get

580
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Speaker 1: first off, not lose a game one and in the

581
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Speaker 1: first round, and get some revenge on the Brooklyn Nets,

582
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Speaker 1: who they've lost to twice, you know, in their franchise

583
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Speaker 1: history in the first round, losing to the to the

584
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Speaker 1: Paul Pierce Nets and losing way back in the day

585
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: to the New Jersey Nets and stuff like that. That's

586
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Speaker 1: gonna be a bit of like a shock to the system,

587
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: maybe for the Nets, but I like them too. And

588
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Speaker 1: my key is, you know we've been slipping his name

589
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: in here, it's really can Karis Lavert carry them? To

590
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: one win, I think, I think if there's potential there.

591
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: I had this written down and had planned to say

592
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Speaker 1: this on the podcast before Karis Lavert had a really

593
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Speaker 1: big outing against the Portland Trailblazers. I had watched a

594
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Speaker 1: lot of these Nets games in eating bubble games here.

595
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: He's been damn good. He really has. When the ball

596
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: is in his hands, that guy can create things. Fascinated

597
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to see if it will work. When Katie and Kyrie's

598
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: there and he's off ball skeptical, but man, when when

599
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: you can just say go to work. Man, he's a

600
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: tough stop, so can he You know you said it.

601
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: Task he scored thirty seven I think it was against

602
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: the Raptors in a loss, But then he also had

603
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: like a twenty seven and four game, had a bunch

604
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: of steals in the Nets loan win. He's played okay,

605
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: he's obviously on fire down there. He could drag them

606
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Speaker 1: to a victory if you know, you throw in some

607
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: three point shooting around him, Like Trey said, they give

608
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: up a lot the Raps do. That's sort of their

609
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: defensive game plan. I see a game being won here

610
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: by the Nets. I really do. And that's not just

611
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: because of the classic Raptors. They give you one. They're good,

612
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: they're They're a decent team. And I don't know how

613
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: many people know that. I don't know how many people

614
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: are watching the Nets here in some of these seeding games.

615
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Speaker 1: So let's get to the predictions task. Get us started.

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Speaker 1: You've been you know, on the record saying we're gonna

617
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Speaker 1: sweep this thing for a long time now, especially if

618
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: they had the Nets. Has your opinion changed.

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Speaker 2: It should have changed.

620
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Speaker 3: If I was being unbiased and objective, I should say

621
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: this Brooklyn Nets team with Karrislvert should take a game.

622
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: But I'm not objective, I'm subjective. I'm stubborn. I'm taking

623
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Speaker 3: the Raptors in a sweep, even though Carrislvert can definitely

624
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: win a game, and he hasn't had much of a

625
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: playoff career. But some guys I think, just have it

626
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And last year, five games in the playoffs,

627
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: they had a twenty three point game, a twenty six

628
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: point game, a twenty five point game among those five games.

629
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Speaker 3: But the other side is ready for a star, a

630
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: star wing player. I think you know, you throw Pascal,

631
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: you throw og An Andobi. There's there's a lot of

632
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: guys that can guard him, and I think that's just

633
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: the mentality of that team. As he said, Skeetz, it's

634
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: it's just too good. It's it's too good if they

635
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: want to focus in lockdown one guy. If they need

636
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Speaker 3: to focus lockdown Carris laverta I think they can again

637
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Speaker 3: a fourth quarter, for instance, and then other guys like

638
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: Garrett Temple and TLC and Jared Allen and Joe Harris

639
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: are gonna have to step up.

640
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Speaker 2: I don't think it bodes well.

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00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: Give me a give me a stubborn Raptors fan here,

642
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Speaker 3: just because I don't want to go back on my

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Speaker 3: tweet from several months ago, raps in four.

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Speaker 1: All right, Trey, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get a Kris Lavert game as well,

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Speaker 4: so I'll go raps in five. I saw this in

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Speaker 4: the docks, Skeets. You had it written as Carrie c

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Speaker 4: A R R Y, And you know, it turns out

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Speaker 4: you're saying that you think that Kris Lavert could carry

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Speaker 4: them to a victory. Certainly, But when I first saw it,

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Speaker 4: I was like, this must be the French pronunciation of

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Speaker 4: his name, Kerrie Lavere. So if he has a great

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Speaker 4: game up in Canada, I don't know. I guess they're

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Speaker 4: not gonna be playing at Canada. But maybe a fake,

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Speaker 4: a fake Raptors home game. We can call it the

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Speaker 4: Kerry Lavere game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got raps in five A. What about you, Lei?

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Speaker 5: I've got the gentleman sweet too. I think the Raptor

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Speaker 5: is probably coming out of the blocks pretty quickly with

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Speaker 5: the three. But then yeah, that fourth game, maybe Lavert

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Speaker 5: just has one and gives one back to the net.

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Speaker 5: But I think again, it's going to be a closer series.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a tougher series for

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Speaker 5: the Raptors, even though they prevail in the end. But

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Speaker 5: I think I saw enough. Maybe it was just last

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Speaker 5: night's game as well. LeVert convinced me that he's gonna

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Speaker 5: get one for his team there because again Lauahawu Cabaret

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Speaker 5: is another guy. When they win, he hits a lot

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Speaker 5: of threes.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, Joe Harris feels like the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: You only need one game from those guys to hit

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Speaker 5: you know, five or six each and then it just

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Speaker 5: the Raptors are just in a in a sort of

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Speaker 5: battle there.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, Raptors in five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm also going Raptors in five exactly. I think

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Speaker 1: there will be a Karros lavert game, if you want

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Speaker 1: to call it that, just like the DJ game from

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Speaker 1: Game one last year when he went for twenty five

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Speaker 1: and nine to thirteen, hit four threes and blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I don't know when it will happen.

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Speaker 1: I am interested to see how these series that we're

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Speaker 1: thinking are going to be sort of blowout series. There's

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Speaker 1: a domin a team. You know, you said a gentleman

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Speaker 1: sweep therely, so you're saying Raps take the first three,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're close games, but then the Nets pull out

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Speaker 1: game four. See. I'm I'm skeptical about this. In this

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Speaker 1: bubble setting, I think if teams get down three to zero,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, all right, we're out of here.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go home and see our families, and they

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe do wave the white flag. It could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: it could be wrong. It usually is the toughest thing

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Speaker 1: in sports to put a team away. You know to

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Speaker 1: like eventually finally win that fourth game, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This bubble setting has me thinking we might have a

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Speaker 1: lot of sweeps. Like I was going to ask you tasks,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves,

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Speaker 1: but a hell of a prediction would be to say

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Speaker 1: every Eastern Conference series will be a four to h sweep. WHOA,

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Speaker 1: it's not that far fetched, is it.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to the other two series, you can still

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Speaker 4: have a close sweep, you know, a close series that's

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Speaker 4: a sweep. Wow. Interesting makes me want to go back

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Speaker 4: on this projective.

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Speaker 1: I thought about it. I was like, well, I hit

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Speaker 1: my one where I said one team would go undefeated,

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Speaker 1: let's go with all sweeps in the Eastern count Now

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that either, because I got Raptors

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Speaker 1: in five, and I think you're right, Lee, I think

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Speaker 1: there's actually gonna be a lot of decently close games

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Speaker 1: going into the third to the fourth quarter. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: and the Raptors will do that classic thing where they

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Speaker 1: like really really zone in defensively. Maybe it is some

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Speaker 1: zone who knows, and just play like three or four

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Speaker 1: really solid minutes and that will be enough to pull

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Speaker 1: out a couple of these victories. I sort of see

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Speaker 1: that being a case, so we will see. You know,

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Speaker 1: you expect it to be gritty there tasks these two teams,

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Speaker 1: we just get gritty from the from the Flyers to

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Flyers are in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: hockey playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which bubble are they in? How long about quarantine

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Okay, well, we got

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Speaker 1: Okay three to six matchup Celtics versus the seventy six Ers,

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Speaker 1: Game one tips Monday, six thirty pm Eastern on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Seventy six Ers took the series. Yeah, the underdogs in this,

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Speaker 1: but they took the season series versus the Celtics took

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Speaker 1: three of the four games. The key injury in this one,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Ben Simmons undergoing surgery to remove a

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Speaker 1: loose body from his left knee. So you wouldn't expect

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Speaker 1: we're going to see him in this series. Who knows

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Speaker 1: moving forward if the seventy six ers can advance. But

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Speaker 1: keys to the series, tass, what do you got? Man?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm searching first and an intrigue in these series?

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00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: Where's the storyline? And Al Horford played for the Boston

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Speaker 3: his old team. Al Horford does not look like himself

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Speaker 3: this season, but when he was asked about playing the

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Speaker 3: Celtics in the playoffs, he smiled and said, I'm okay

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Speaker 3: it worked out that way. Can Al Horford be sparked?

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Speaker 3: Can this be the flame that's lit inside this thirty

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Speaker 3: four year old body that's played some very good basketball

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs because they need him to be excellent

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Speaker 3: and they need ball handlers with no Ben Simmons. And

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Speaker 3: I know you don't think of Al Horford as a

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Speaker 3: ball handler, but guy's playing off him his passing two

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Speaker 3: man game, running around him like a classic sort of

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Speaker 3: JJ Reddick Joel Embiid. I think Al Horford if he

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Speaker 3: goes to the second unit, which I would like to

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Speaker 3: see instead of him coming out with the starters and

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00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: just being cold and just watching these other guys play

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Speaker 3: around Embiid use al like he has been classically used

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Speaker 3: in the past as a guy who's a sort of

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Speaker 3: a centerpiece. Throw it into the post, you run your

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00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: splits off him like he was in Atlanta. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna score a ton, but he's good. I think he's

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Speaker 3: gonna make everybody better on the bench, like a burks

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Speaker 3: Er or these Glenn Robinson types, and so I would

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Speaker 3: like to see him get going because they're desperately gonna

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Speaker 3: need him. I think it's better done on the bench,

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Speaker 3: and you've got to elevate the players around him because

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Speaker 3: after mb there's a drop off in talent. And I

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Speaker 3: know the defense would be bad with Horford probably going

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Speaker 3: to the bench because he's still good on that side.

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Speaker 3: But I think you get the most out of him

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, him and Embiid both warm. You

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Speaker 3: finish with those two the more more talented guys, because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: You've got him beat on this team and you've got

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Speaker 3: guys who get paid a lot, but without Ben Simmons,

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Speaker 3: the Celtics have more talent, and so I think you

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Speaker 3: just got to find a way to get the most

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Speaker 3: out of big Al and maybe the playoffs just light

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Speaker 3: his eyes up a little bit, light those pretty eyes up,

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Speaker 3: just to touch We need him. He's thirty four years old,

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Speaker 3: he signed this big deal. Did he just come here

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Speaker 3: let's get let's get the good Al out there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Trey, what you got your eye on?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's Embiid for me. He is the best

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Speaker 4: player in this series. He's dominant on both ends of

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Speaker 4: the court whenever he wants you to be. But like

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Speaker 4: the next five players go to the Celtics. If you're

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Speaker 4: the focus of the entire game plan from a Celtics

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Speaker 4: team that is going to try everything to get the

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Speaker 4: ball out of his hands. And his cancer for some reason,

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Speaker 4: actually is pretty good in the playoffs. Usually, maybe Robert

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Speaker 4: Williams will get a little bit of time. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: daniel tysle fall out of some games, but they've got

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Speaker 4: some options there. Embiid has to be ready to go

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Speaker 4: every single night. He has to be ready to get

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Speaker 4: the ball in the post thirty times a night. He's

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Speaker 4: got to be engaged every single defensive possession, and he's

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Speaker 4: you got to make plays out of the post. Right

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be double team in he's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: kick it out, and then that means you need to

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Speaker 4: get some three pointers from a guy like Al Horford,

856
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 4: Josh Richardson, Tobias Harris. They got to be ready to shoot,

857
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: not a pump fake, and then you're suddenly taking an

858
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: eighteen footer with the hand in your face. If you've

859
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: got to sliver a daylight, let it fly, because you

860
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: got to get something from the outside. You know Embiid's

861
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: gonna give you points inside, you know he's gonna give

862
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: you free throws. How else can you maximize your offensive

863
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: output against a really good defensive team in the Celtics.

864
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: The advantage is inside, but it's got to come from everywhere.

865
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: Embiid cannot do everything. If you ask him to do

866
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: everything for seven games, it's probably gonna go pretty poorly

867
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: by the end of Game seven. But He's talented enough

868
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: that he can put the team on his back for

869
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: a few wins. So I'm curious to see how ready

870
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 4: he is and how much of an advantage he can

871
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: be inside for Philly.

872
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Is it safe to say for the Sixers? Maybe to

873
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: get out of this series, Embiid basically has to be

874
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: the giant version of Damian Lillard. Yeah, Clue, I think

875
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: there's some truth to that. I'm skeptical you can do it.

876
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: And of course it's a lot different when you're the

877
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: guard like Damian Lillard. Like you're bringing up the ball,

878
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: you can shoot from thirty five feet if you want.

879
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: Somebody's really got to get the ball to him. Beid,

880
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: get him in a position to go to work every

881
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: time you can do it. Jesus, if you can't make

882
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: a post entry pass, what the hell are you doing

883
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: in the NBA? But Kenny, does he have the stamina too?

884
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Or does he got to do what we saw Dame

885
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: even do versus the nets last night? Like, Okay, I'll

886
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: just sort of bide my time here for a couple

887
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: of quarters and then every single shot in the fourth

888
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: will basically go through me. I'll either shoot it, I'll attack,

889
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: get to the line or I'll set somebody up. Yeah,

890
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: I think embiad has to be a monster for the

891
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers have any chance here. But like you

892
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: guys are saying, Horford's got to contribute, Harris has got

893
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: to hit shots. Yet Richardson's got a hitchhot. See, you

894
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: can't actually score every point, though I'd like to see

895
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: him try lead. You have a key to this series,

896
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, focusing either on the Celtics or the six Ers.

897
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: Well, the six Is aren't going to win this on offense.

898
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 5: They have to try to muddy this game up and

899
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: just slow it down. And Mike at a bog for

900
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: the Celtics because the only way they can win is

901
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: if they defend in capit Clar's and they and hit

902
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: a couple of game winners at the end. Maybe because

903
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: the Sixers offense we know, was just ugly to watch

904
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 5: this year and it didn't really work. But defensively they

905
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: were much better. But of course the Celtics are very

906
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 5: even at both ends of the floor, very good offense,

907
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 5: very good defense, very consistent. And here's the other problem

908
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 5: for the Sixers is Jason Tatum actually struggled against Ben

909
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: Simmons this year. But Ben Simmons isn't there, So who

910
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 5: is the guy who's going to make Jason Tatum work

911
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 5: for his points? Because when Tatum was on the floor

912
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 5: and Simmons wasn't, Tatum was awesome, and he's been awesome

913
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: all season long. So someone has to sort of see

914
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 5: that there is a way to slow down Jason Tatum.

915
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 5: Just watch how Ben Simmons defended him. But that's easier

916
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: said than done because Tatum he elevated himself to a

917
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: superstar this year. So somehow I think Brett Brown has

918
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 5: to just slow the game down, make this a defensive grind,

919
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: and give themselves a chance at the end, because I

920
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: just don't see how they can sort of match the

921
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: Celtics in a track meet. If the Celtics want to

922
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 5: get out and just make this an offensive game. The

923
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: Sixers just don't have enough weapons to run with him

924
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: like that. So the only way is make it you

925
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 5: make it slow, frustrate the Celtics, and then you know,

926
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: maybe at the end you've got someone like a shake

927
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 5: Milton Josh Richardson, you know, embiad whoever it is to

928
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: get a couple of baskets in the last couple of

929
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: minutes that may be tilted in your favor, but I

930
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 5: don't really like the chances of that happening because again,

931
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: the Celtics have just been so disciplined at both ends

932
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: and don't have any injuries either, and the Sixers are

933
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: missing their best or second best player, So yeah, gonna

934
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: be very tough for them. And Embiid is probably not

935
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: one hundred percent himself, so that's gonna be tough.

936
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm interested to watch Kemba Walker in

937
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: this series. You said, no Simmons, that is tough because

938
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: Thibel has played well on Kemba Walker. But okay, Thiebold

939
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: maybe's on him. Now, who's guarding Titum and who's guarding

940
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Jail and Brown and even Gordon Heward for that matter.

941
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: Like you, they're desperately or drastically going to be missing

942
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons defense, So that's a no brainer. But Kemba

943
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Walker had started to play. I thought like he was

944
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: getting back to that all star level. Kemba Walker and

945
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: I talked about it. I loved how explosive he looked

946
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: just on his jump shots and threes. It's getting some height,

947
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: great balance. He had one stinker in the bubble, missed

948
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: some games, but otherwise shot really really well as they

949
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: sort of like shed the minutes restrictions for him. So

950
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I'll just have my eye on him because I think

951
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: the Celtics are moving forward and I think he's so

952
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: important to the Celtics actually beating some of maybe the

953
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: better teams later on in the Eastern Conference. But I've

954
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: liked what I've seen. We talked about it, Trey, like

955
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you and I sort of were like, are the Celtics

956
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: underrated right now? There's no one really talking about them

957
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: all that much, it felt like in comparison to some

958
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: of the other teams, of course in the West and

959
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: even some of these other good Eastern Conference teams. So

960
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: we'll see they it'd be nice if they made a

961
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: statement here, but Embiad is a monster, and they do

962
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: not have an answer for him. Like they have fouls,

963
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: and they'll use them. I think they will, and they will,

964
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, double down into the post and Marcus Smart

965
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: will be a pest. I'm sure there will be an instance. Again,

966
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: wasn't there the classic meme of like was it in

967
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: be pushing Marcus Smarter the other way around? I can't

968
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: remember there's a great photo when they went at it

969
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: at one point. There will be some of that again,

970
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: some of those two guys getting at it. But that'll

971
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: be exciting. So let's make our predictions then, I mean,

972
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: this might be the I don't know. I think we're

973
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: all gonna still be on the same side with the

974
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: team advancing. But what number do you throw on it? Tasks?

975
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: Who do you like?

976
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: Well, you threw out the possibility of four sweeps skeets.

977
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: I can't buy into it. I can't.

978
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: I think we're sort of underestimating what James Ennis was

979
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: saying that this feels a little like March madness. Anything

980
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: can happen. I'm not I don't know. I don't know

981
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: how many games the Sixers can actually take because if

982
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: there's any player, you can sort of read his body language.

983
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: Not to be a body language doctor here, but I'm

984
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: gonna do it. Joel Embiid just night in and night out.

985
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: He's just it's not a happy dude right now. And

986
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: maybe he knows that this is a tough sled against

987
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: Ben Simms. Maybe he's banged up, but I agree, he's

988
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: got to be a monster, and I'm just not sure

989
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: he's mentally or physically ready to do that right now,

990
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: but there's no possible way I can I can do

991
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: the sweet thing. I can't do it.

992
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say five. Though. I do think it's going.

993
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: To be a pretty dominant win by the Celtics, especially Yeah,

994
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: with Van Simmons being out being jacent, teams mean defender,

995
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: So give me a season five.

996
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Season five, oh man, the Beantown Boys are gonna be

997
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: so pumped to hear that. I think everybody will be

998
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: rocking green hats in this one. Lee, where are you

999
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: going in this?

1000
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 6: No, I'm Celtic sweep. They're just they've just got too

1001
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 6: many weapons.

1002
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 5: And right now, again, I think six of the six

1003
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 5: is second best players Tobias Harrison, I just think he's

1004
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 5: I just don't like we know how you feel, so,

1005
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 5: you know, I think I think this is a really

1006
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 5: good opportunity for ol Horford to sort of, you know,

1007
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 5: end the season at least, you know, showing some sort

1008
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: of contribution next It's been a terrible season for him,

1009
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: but ultimately, you know, Brown and Tatum and Hayward and Kember.

1010
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: Oh man, I just don't know how the Sixers can

1011
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: really stop all of those guys for a whole game.

1012
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna see, You're gonna see one game

1013
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: probably you've Tatum going for thirty five, maybe one of

1014
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 5: Brown going for thirty five, maybe one of Kemba Walker

1015
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: going for thirty five.

1016
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Maybe here.

1017
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think the Celtics have just been This

1018
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: has been a very good This has almost been a

1019
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 5: perfect bubble for them, because they had a bad loss

1020
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: to the Bucks, which Tatum was awful in, and then

1021
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 5: they they sort of I think overlook the Heat as well.

1022
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: I think the Heat will without Jimmy Butler that game

1023
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: and dragage maybe, and they sort of took the ry

1024
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: off the ball. And other than lost yesterday which doesn't

1025
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: count because no one played, they've actually been very very good.

1026
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: And again you said earlier, sort of falling under the

1027
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: radar a bit, no one's really been talking about them.

1028
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 6: So they come in.

1029
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 5: Everyone looks pretty much healthy too. I mean Kember is

1030
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 5: the one who was on a bit of a minister restriction,

1031
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: but the last couple of games he was looking great.

1032
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think the Celtics handle their business here

1033
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 5: quite efficiently and taken in four comfortable games.

1034
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: Well, then if you are saying that. If you're predicting that,

1035
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: then you can say goodbye to coach Bret Brown, right,

1036
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's out of there. Even if

1037
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: they lose in six or seven, he could.

1038
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: Be Yeah Brown needs to pull out a miracle life

1039
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: to keep his job. And yeah the second rounder, you

1040
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 5: probably would, but I can't see that happening. So yeah,

1041
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: he's he's in trouble.

1042
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, now you are. You've just been out bean

1043
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: Town tasks there somehow you're the better boy.

1044
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: I think.

1045
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 5: I think the Sixers won the first three games with

1046
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: the regular season against him.

1047
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Sixers play them well.

1048
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: Earlier in the season, I thought, Okay, the Sixers might

1049
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: have finally sort of, you know, been able to beat

1050
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: this team that had them had their measure. But without

1051
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: Simmons again that I just can't see it happening now.

1052
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 5: And so yeah, Celtics, very good team.

1053
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: Four games all right, Celtics.

1054
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Sweet? Wow, this is huge, Trey. Where are you going

1055
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: with this one?

1056
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: Well? Now I feel like I'm overrating the Sixers, which

1057
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a surprise. This is a team that you

1058
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: can't stop thinking. Man, if they just put it together,

1059
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: they could still do it even with Ben Simmons out.

1060
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: You see the kind of games that MB could have.

1061
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: I can't stop thinking about the Christmas Day game where

1062
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: he's just dominating against the Bucks. Right You're like, okay,

1063
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: that could happen. He could easily run wild against all

1064
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: of the Celtics bigs, and he could do it in

1065
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 4: four games. Maybe he can't do it for seven games,

1066
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: but if they're four Classics, that's incredible. I'm still going

1067
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: Celtics and six. They're incredibly underrated right now. They have

1068
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: so many options offensively, They've got a really great defense.

1069
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: It just happens to be that their one defensive problem

1070
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: is exactly where the Philadelphia is at the strongest right now.

1071
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing them Beid perform. But

1072
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be enough against Boston.

1073
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Celtics and six. Two. It is really

1074
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: which Embiid shows up in this series because you're spot

1075
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: on tasks. I mean, you can that guy wears his

1076
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: emotions right there on his sleeve, you know, if he's sulky,

1077
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, if he's like fired up, like I believe

1078
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: that he can if he wants to just be shack

1079
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: man for this series. Just be the monster. Don't settle outside.

1080
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah you okay, you can get a couple up. You

1081
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: got to keep them honest, whatever, and you're tired, so

1082
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: you just want to shoot the three. But for the

1083
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: most part, go to work, make them double triple team

1084
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: you and try and find your guys or get to

1085
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: the line and make the like like Lee said, muck

1086
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: this up, make it ugly. That's your best chance to

1087
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: win it. I believe he can do it for a

1088
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: couple of games. I just wonder with the schedule of

1089
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: this thing. You know, it's every second day, right, I mean,

1090
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: from what I can tell, it's one day on, one

1091
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: day off, one day on. And they're like, man, is

1092
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: he in shape enough to drag them to four wins?

1093
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: No?

1094
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: But I think he can do a couple, So I'll

1095
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: go Celtics and six. So it's a great Like you know,

1096
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: we say, hey, the team with the best player tends

1097
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: to win the series. Well here we go. I mean,

1098
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: beat's the best player. I mean, Tatum's awesome, but beat

1099
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: his when he's locked in, I'm incredible, one of the

1100
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: better players in the league. But the studies have by

1101
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: far the better roster after him. And I put a

1102
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: lot more trust in those guys. So season six for

1103
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Trey and I season five from Task and then season

1104
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: four the real bean town boy here who.

1105
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: From Wow with no big Bean Ben, it's just gonna

1106
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: be it's gonna be a problem.

1107
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: They played.

1108
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: The last time they played was two years ago, right,

1109
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: and the six er took care of business, or the

1110
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: Celtics took care business in five.

1111
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1112
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: So even though the growth since then of Brown and Titum,

1113
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: I mean they just different players together.

1114
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: Celtics had Al Horford to get guard Joel Embiid though

1115
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: remember how big of the thing that was. They're like,

1116
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: what Horford's just leaving now Boston can't do anything. And

1117
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: now that he's there, it's like what Horford's on Philly,

1118
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: he can't do anything.

1119
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why it will be fun. You

1120
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: imagine if any coach in the league is going to

1121
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: try and throw, you know, interesting defensive wrinkles at em

1122
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Beid and like say like, well, you're not beating us,

1123
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: it would be like a Brad Stevens like, I mean,

1124
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what type of defense they do

1125
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: throw out them and how he deals with it and

1126
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: that's where again I could see frustration, like if Embiid

1127
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: is going to the post getting double triple teamed, or

1128
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: whatever keeps throwing it out to Debias Harris in the corner,

1129
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: who keeps just clanking threes or whoever can't hit a shot,

1130
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, Embiid's gonna just be pissed, hissed, and then

1131
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: he'll start jacking. I mean it could, this could, this

1132
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: series could get ugly quickly for Sixers fans. I think

1133
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: that's that's in play, no doubt. That's why maybe the

1134
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: sweep isn't far fetch. But I still believe in Joel

1135
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: Embiid enough to just be a nightmare. And sorry, Tyson,

1136
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't guard him. I mean, these guys can't go,

1137
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: they can't guard.

1138
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 5: I agree, Tys is gonna have a tough series. That's

1139
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: why I'm looking forward to Marcus Smartt having a few

1140
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: possessions on him that that would just be perfect for

1141
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 5: Marcus Smartt, you know, and we flopped.

1142
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 6: Round. But yeah, like if.

1143
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: You could, if there's a line out there, like will

1144
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: Embiid get ejected from one of these games, I would

1145
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: hit yes on it because you can see, yeah, it

1146
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: could get bad all.

1147
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: Right, who will be at his side though if he

1148
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: does get ejected as Mike Scott, Mike Scott's the plighter,

1149
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: I think I think it just I squeezed him in

1150
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: there because I think we might get a Mike Scott

1151
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: game because if he gets some minutes, he Joelanbid definitely

1152
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: needs shooters around him, and we've talked about Furkan kuork

1153
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: Mas entering the lineup potentially as Mike Scott played some

1154
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: minutes recent there's somebody they need a shooter when it's

1155
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: nuts that they're paying so much Tobias Arris and Josh

1156
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: Richardson and they still haven't found one to go alongside

1157
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: those dudes. Yeah, I could see a Mike Scott game

1158
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: in the same vein you talked about Joe Harris doing

1159
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: it against the Raptors, which I don't agree with. This

1160
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 3: is a new Raptors team. They just don't do that anymore.

1161
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, I could see Mikey Scott lighten it up

1162
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: for a twenty spot.

1163
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Sure, all right, final series here in the Eastern Conference,

1164
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: it's the four to five matchup. It's the Heat versus

1165
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: the Pacers. This one tips on Tuesday, August eighteenth, four

1166
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: PM Eastern on TNT. The Heat outside of the bubble

1167
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: at least, or maybe that's accounting to one of the

1168
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: game or three and oh, I believe against the Pacers

1169
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: though they play today, right, they actually have a game?

1170
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah last the three and oh was that last one

1171
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 3: where they dominated them pretty badly and TJ.

1172
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Warren didn't play well?

1173
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: Right?

1174
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: Right?

1175
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Right? So they played again. That's weird. I mean, I

1176
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: can't imagine their star players will be playing key adri

1177
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: No debontis bonus right now for the Pacers. Some weird

1178
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: rumors going around that he could be back. Who knows

1179
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on, but Heat Pacers task

1180
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: get us started? What are you watching?

1181
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: He'd better hurry up because Skeet said it's gonna be

1182
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: force sweeps in this Eastern Conference. No, I'm putting sweeps

1183
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: into your mouth there, Skeets. But I do think it's

1184
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: gonna be a quick series because I just don't know

1185
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 3: how the Pacers score enough.

1186
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: And it's crazy to think TJ.

1187
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: Warren had the bubble of his life, like everybody I

1188
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: guess had the bubble of their life, but he had,

1189
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: you know, the eight games so far, this trunk of

1190
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: game is the best he's ever played in the NBA,

1191
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: but they are still seventeenth best of the twenty two

1192
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 3: offenses in the bubble, and that's gonna slow down.

1193
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: TJ.

1194
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Warren's not going to play that great, as we saw

1195
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: against the Heat this Monday and they stopped him. And

1196
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: these are TJ. Warren's first playoff games, which is kind

1197
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: of weird to say because he's been around a long

1198
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: a long time, but Phoenix is where he played, and

1199
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: so a guy who has to step up. I think

1200
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: with the way they're not getting a lot of offense

1201
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: from Victor Oladipo or Miles Turner or TJ. Warren or

1202
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Holliday's young guy is Malcolm Brogden. He's actually got

1203
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: some playoff games under his belt, only got to make

1204
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: it out of the first round as a starter on

1205
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: this team with the Bucks last year, So I think

1206
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot on his shoulders. With those

1207
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: guys that I named there and the rest of their

1208
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: starting lineup, I don't see them scoring a lot, but

1209
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: Malcolm Brogden could maybe, and he's got a lot of

1210
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: confidence coming into the series. He said, we're gonna take

1211
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: care of business, but Yeah, the three to zero series

1212
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: and that game on Monday, I think is a better

1213
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: indicator than Malcolm Brogden's confidence.

1214
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: But I'm looking forward to the Broggy.

1215
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple of good games in

1216
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals against the Reps last year, but

1217
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: that was more as a number three option, and so.

1218
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1219
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're gonna do against this great

1220
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: heat defense. How are they going to score? I just

1221
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: don't really see it happening.

1222
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: Oh here's the question, task was TJ Warren actually shut

1223
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: down on Monday or are they doing a little ripid

1224
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: dope right and he's just saving it as we talked

1225
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: about after that game. Oh yeah, yeah, well you got me,

1226
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: you got me, Jimmy, I can't score any Or was

1227
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: he just saving it at all and he's going to

1228
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: explode on him in the playoffs? Yeah? I don't think so.

1229
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy guarded TJ Warren, what was it, twenty five possessions

1230
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: in that first Bubble game and Warren scored two points

1231
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: and didn't even get a lot of shots up. So

1232
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's why why some Pacers fans thinking nah, they

1233
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: just didn't want to show their cards.

1234
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: Here.

1235
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: But okay, so brogden't you think has to be massive

1236
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: massive for.

1237
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: The a twenty point guy for sure? Like look at

1238
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 3: those look at those names, old Deeople's not right. Yeah,

1239
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: that's that's that's apparent. And I don't know about this

1240
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: Sabonis thing. But he better hurry back because it's going

1241
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: to be a short series. But he would help obviously.

1242
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: I just don't see. I just don't see where the

1243
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: points are coming from.

1244
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what about you Lee? What you got for this?

1245
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 5: Well, Miles Turner has not been very good in the

1246
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 5: bubble except against Except for against the bad teams Orlando

1247
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 5: and Washington, he had good games and then that other

1248
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: one against the Rockets, which was a meaningless game, and

1249
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: his worst game I think came against Miami. He just

1250
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 5: got absolutely killed at both ends of the floor and

1251
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: goo wonder why. Yeah, I know that's the thing. He's

1252
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: a big guy, he's got great athleticisms, got long arms,

1253
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: so he needs to protect the paint and he needs

1254
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: to not get killed like he had been in pick

1255
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 5: and rolls. And offensively again, he shoots a three ball

1256
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: well against Washington and Orlando, but everyone else he's struggled

1257
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 5: against So he needs to be more effective at both ends.

1258
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: And that's a big problem for me because I just

1259
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: he just got killed by Miami and so unless he's

1260
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: going to really improve his discipline on defense, I think

1261
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 5: the heat are going to really try to expose him

1262
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: just time and time and time again. So he has

1263
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: to find a way to not be like that. He

1264
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 5: has to be athletic, he has to defend shots, but

1265
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: he has to also just not get sucked in and

1266
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: learn how to play that pick and roll. Mean, you

1267
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 5: can't learn it in a playoff series, But the Pacers

1268
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 5: have to figure out a way for him to understand

1269
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 5: that they're going to go at him and try to

1270
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 5: exploit him, and he has to he has to be

1271
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: way better than he was in that game against in Miami.

1272
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: So again I wonder why he struggled against Miami. Who's

1273
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: he playing?

1274
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 6: Bam.

1275
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not the first person to point this out.

1276
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: Bam remembers that Miles Turner took his team USA spot

1277
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: one per one hundred percent, and he's Miles Turner is

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00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: in for a series here. I think we even saw

1279
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: it in that game. Like you said on the Monday, Bam, remembers.

1280
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the guys use that for motivation. He wants

1281
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: to embarrass Miles Turner and sort of in a way

1282
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: embarrassed tam Usa for picking him over himself. I think

1283
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: again by far the first person to point this out

1284
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: so that that will be something to watch. Turner's got

1285
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: to be massive. Brockton's got to be massive. You guys

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00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: are saying, Trey, what else are you watching in this series?

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: Task nailed it. How in the world are the Pacers

1288
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: going to be able to keep pace with Miami shooters?

1289
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: Miami shoots a ton of threes. They're going to finish

1290
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: the season first in three point percentage. If you're just

1291
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 4: looking at bubble statistics, Miami makes three more three pointers

1292
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: and six more free throws per game than Indiana. That

1293
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: right there is what fifteen points just that easily. So

1294
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: that's really tough when you're missing Demonta Sabonis, a guy

1295
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: who may be coming back, We're not totally sure, but

1296
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: not going to really bump up your three point rate.

1297
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: Same with Victor Oladipo. Maybe he gets hot, but you know,

1298
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: the Pacers have been scrappy this entire time. I'm it

1299
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: could be a fast series, but I think it'll at

1300
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 4: least be a close series. It's interesting to see what

1301
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: happens between Warren and Butler. Butler was coming back from

1302
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: an injury too in that very first game that they

1303
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: played against each other, So maybe TJ. Warren wasn't showing

1304
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 4: his cards, but maybe Jimmy Butler be a little bit

1305
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 4: more healthy as well. But if Miami is able to

1306
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: keep it up from outside, if they're able to knock

1307
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: down threes, and if Butler's able to keep getting to

1308
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: the line, which I assume he will, it's just a

1309
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: disadvantage for the Pacers to not have those three points

1310
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: that India or that Miami is going to be starting

1311
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: the game off with.

1312
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Basically, I would add to that tray too, the Pacers

1313
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: are not a great rebounding team either, so the Heat,

1314
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: especially if Bam is inspired to really you know, atwork

1315
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Miles Turner, They're gonna end up likely with a bunch

1316
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: of more second chance points too. So then you just

1317
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: get into like the math is not going to add

1318
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: up for a lot of Pacers wins unfortunately, Like he

1319
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: are gonna take more threes, hit more threes, Like you said,

1320
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: get to the line more often have more opportunities to

1321
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: shoot the ball because they're a great offensive rebounding team,

1322
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: where the Pacers actually just struggle sort of rebounding. That

1323
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: math does not bode well for in these chances in

1324
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: my opinion, and I've been talking to him this up

1325
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. I don't like this

1326
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: matchup for the Pacers at all. I think the Heat

1327
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: have their number. Maybe Indiana like get stops and can

1328
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: run a little bit and score some easier baskets because

1329
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a slog in the half court set.

1330
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, the only thing I would add, you guys

1331
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: said it TJ Warren versus Jimmy Butler. Will we actually

1332
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: get the you know, the fireworks we were anticipating in

1333
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: that first game on Monday. That was a bit of

1334
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: a dud. And maybe TJ has been money at times.

1335
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: Hopefully it hasn't run dry, and he's got a couple

1336
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: more performances in him and see what Jimmy can do

1337
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: to try and shut him down. But let's make predictions tasks.

1338
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: Wrap this one up. What do you got?

1339
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: Well?

1340
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: Ever since you said BAM, remembers have been thinking about

1341
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones. The North remembers. Maybe it's the South

1342
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: remembers for the Miami Heat. I'm just trying to work

1343
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: on a meme or as our friend used to call it,

1344
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: a meme for Bam remembers. I mean, maybe just a

1345
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: thought bubble of Miles Turner in the USA Jersey.

1346
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: Pretty easy.

1347
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: But anyways, I think it's a smoke show. I respect

1348
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: the Pacers and Nate McMillan way too much. They're going

1349
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: to work way too hard to be swept. But it

1350
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: sure looks like the Heat just have the Pacers number.

1351
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: It's just doesn't seem like a very good matchup. And

1352
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: as Trey said about the Heat shooters, you don't immediately

1353
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: think about them as a three point shooting team if

1354
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: you just think about their stars. Jimmy's not a shooter.

1355
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 3: Bam BAM's not a shooter. But what do they do

1356
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: right off the bat? Duncan Robinson is working around screens,

1357
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero is going to come in and fight. The

1358
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: rest of the roster is just outside of those guys.

1359
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 3: That's what they are. And they've done a good job

1360
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: of setting up three point shooters around them, and the

1361
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: Pacers aren't whole either, So it's it's not very much

1362
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: a fair fight here. So I got five heat in five.

1363
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Trey, I've got maybe a little unfounded confidence in

1364
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: the Pacers. I always overrate the seventy six ers and

1365
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: underrate the Pacers, so perhaps something lines up perfectly there,

1366
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 4: you know, the heat despite the fact that they do

1367
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: seem like the better team. They've been up and down

1368
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: in the bubble so far. I think they've been up

1369
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 4: and down all season long. It just averages out that

1370
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: they look like a pretty good team, which is probably

1371
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: how it will average out in this seven game series.

1372
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 4: Give me the heat in six. I can see them

1373
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: going cold. You know, it's not surprising to me when

1374
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 4: a guy like Duncan Robinson gets taken out of a

1375
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: playoff series, when a coach is able to say, all

1376
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 4: you have to do is make sure this guy doesn't

1377
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 4: shoot a three. Just run after him for seven games.

1378
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: We've seen it happen to Kyle korver If it can

1379
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: happen to Kyle Korverick and happen to Duncan Robinson, and

1380
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 4: if the Piecers are able to kind of flatten that advantage,

1381
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: that three point advantage that Miami should have built in

1382
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: they can keep games close. Maybe we get some all

1383
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 4: a deepot magic, maybe we get a hot TJ. Warren game.

1384
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 4: I think the Picers can win a couple of games,

1385
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: but ultimately Miami and six for me.

1386
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Lee, what do you got?

1387
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 5: I think Nate McMillan will have his team well prepared,

1388
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: but I just think there this is not a good

1389
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: matchup for the Pacers.

1390
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: I think the Heat sweep them. I really do this.

1391
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: I just it must have a clean portrait now with

1392
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: all the sweeping you're doing.

1393
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 5: Just again, I go back to that game they played,

1394
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 5: the you know, the one that was all built up

1395
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 5: and TJ.

1396
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 6: Warren was not good.

1397
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 5: And look, maybe he's saving it for the playoffs, you know,

1398
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 5: but I just think I think the Heat, especially if

1399
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 5: they have drag its and everyonehealthy, They've got a lot

1400
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 5: on that bench, you know, playmakers, shooters, they've got defense,

1401
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: and they've got Jimmy Butler there as well, and of

1402
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: course Bam. So yeah, I think the Heat take care

1403
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 5: of business in this one pretty pretty comfortably. But you know, again,

1404
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 5: I think Nate teams will be well prepared, but they're

1405
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 5: going to be punching well above. They're white in this one,

1406
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 5: So hating four.

1407
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna split the difference and go with tasks,

1408
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: splitting the difference between Lee's pick and trace pick. I

1409
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: like heating five two. I think the Pacers get a game.

1410
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: They are scrappy, They're not gonna roll over and die

1411
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: this one. If anything, I could see the weird you know,

1412
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: heater up two, oh maybe even three to zero, and

1413
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers like cause they got some pride and we're

1414
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: not going home yet. Okay, we're not going right to

1415
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: the airport yet. We got we got a w in

1416
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: a So I'll go heat in five just because again

1417
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a bad matchup. I think Bam is

1418
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: going to put Miles Turner in the torture rack. I

1419
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: truly truly believe that. But those are our predictions. Let's

1420
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: hear from you, guys. Jump on Twitter at No Dunksinc.

1421
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,920
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1422
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,600
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1424
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Speaker 1: No Dunks on YouTube, Smash those likes, guys, and if

1425
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,479
Speaker 1: you listen to the pot on iTunes, leave your boys

1426
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: a sweet five star rating and review Megable Saturday Blazers

1427
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: Grizzlies two thirty pm Eastern on e Seed. We're not

1428
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: going to record a podcast on Saturday, though. We might

1429
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: have a little bonus popin packs for you. If we

1430
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: can ever get a hold of Derek Harper, we will.

1431
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 6: We got a hold of him. I got a hold

1432
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 6: of him, right right. We have to reschedule, right right right.

1433
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: You got to actually record the popping packs, is what

1434
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean. You can keep sharing text with Derek Harper,

1435
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: but that's not gonna work well as a podcast. I

1436
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: don't think. Hey, though, maybe we could turn that into

1437
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: a podcast. I'll play the role with Derek Harper, Lee

1438
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: and I'll just recite the text back and forth to

1439
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: each other. Tess, I know we were gonna just put

1440
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: it up on social media. Do we have a line

1441
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: for the Blazer's Grizzlies game? Do we want to do

1442
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: it right here and make our picks because we're tied

1443
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: all eight and seven?

1444
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: Do you want to do this live? Baby? Let's do it?

1445
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: Why not? You know?

1446
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 3: Why not?

1447
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: Why not?

1448
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: Saturday game one of a potential two Mega Bowl Grizzlies Blazers.

1449
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: The line we were talking about yesterday, we kind of

1450
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: threw out some numbers, some guesses in between two and

1451
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 3: four and a half.

1452
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: It's six the Blazers. Blazers faded by six.

1453
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: We got to make it six and a half because

1454
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: we we don't like pushes here yep on, no dunk,

1455
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: So six and a half.

1456
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Blazer's favored by six and a half.

1457
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 3: That's why these line makers are good. Line makers are

1458
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 3: so good.

1459
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: What do you take?

1460
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 4: Is this a deep web line or is this a

1461
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: standard web line?

1462
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty standard standard the web, the standard Web called

1463
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: and they gave us this six and a half line,

1464
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty three and a half for the

1465
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: over under.

1466
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: Let's not get started on that. I think the over

1467
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: I gotta go over on that.

1468
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, big over all?

1469
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: Right, Well, who wants to get us started here? I mean,

1470
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: we're all tied again, all eight and seven in our

1471
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: bubble seating. Pick them here, Lee, go ahead, you get started.

1472
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 5: The Grizzly's got a good win against the Bucks, but

1473
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 5: the Bucks kind of mild that in. Yes, but seven

1474
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 5: points just seems too big for me, So I think

1475
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 5: the Grizzlies cover.

1476
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Goodness. Okay, try try go Ducks.

1477
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: I've been underwhelmed by the Grizzlies. They did get a

1478
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 4: much needed win when they had to have it, same

1479
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 4: scenario on Saturday, But I don't know. I don't like

1480
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: betting against Dame right now.

1481
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Give me the Blazers, Okay, Okay, Tess or you leaning man.

1482
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the Grizzlies offense is for real, and

1483
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: I know playing the Blazers you can find your offense

1484
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: for sure, but I just I'm just not buying it.

1485
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: I think that the lights will get brighter in Walt

1486
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 3: Disney there, just because it's the sort of the playoffs.

1487
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: They're gonna turn those those lumens up just a little

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Speaker 3: bit and it's gonna be tough for the Grizzlies. I

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Speaker 3: think they sort of already got their win there on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I like the Blazers. That's a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of points, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Taking okay, yeah, see see, I'm going with Lee on this.

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Speaker 1: I think the Blazers win the game. I'll put that

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Speaker 1: on the record, but I think the Grizzlies keep it close.

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Speaker 1: All these games we've been watching, well a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Blazers can't stop anybody, so it should just be a

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Speaker 1: close game the Grizzlies. I don't care how bad they

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Speaker 1: are at times on offense, in hitting shots, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get looks knock them down. You at least have a

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Speaker 1: close game. The other thing is, guys, I'm actually shocked

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Speaker 1: that you're going with the big line here. We just

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Speaker 1: keep talking about how all these games feel scripted. This

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: play and race felt scripted. The one team win eight No,

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Speaker 1: we had a four team race in the final day. Well,

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Speaker 1: then then I'm gonna continue with that conspiracy theory. This

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Speaker 1: game abc huge game here. Of course, it's gonna be close. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be close. Hell, we might have a game

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Speaker 1: winner in this one from a Damian lill Or to like,

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Speaker 1: I see J McCollum or something. So I think the

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Speaker 1: Grizzlies cover. I'm with Lee, I like this. We're split

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Speaker 1: task and Trey take the Blazers to win by seven

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Speaker 1: points or more, and Lee and I think the Grizzlies

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Speaker 1: keep it close enough.

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Speaker 6: Woo.

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Speaker 1: We will see all right, So we won't have a

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Speaker 1: podcast really on the Saturday, because we'll wait and see

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Speaker 1: what happens if they play another one on Sunday, but

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Speaker 1: we will be recording and dropping our Western Canferen's playoff

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Speaker 1: preview on Sunday. Sunday Sunday, So if you enjoyed this one,

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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to No Dumps wherever you'll listen

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Speaker 1: to us, and you'll have that one on Sunday. It

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Speaker 1: might be in the morning if there's only one playing game,

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Speaker 1: might be a little bit later at night if there's

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Speaker 1: two playing games. All right, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, folks, And just a personal note,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna gain some weight during the nets Raptor series

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Speaker 3: because of Brooklyn's French national Timothy Luabu Cabareaut has libertay

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Speaker 3: written on his jersey, which means freedom, but it also

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Speaker 3: means yogurt.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day. People. You could stay every day and

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Speaker 1: dad be happy every minute. It's been so long with

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Speaker 1: Yolana way

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Speaker 3: Already, it's kind of be the sho