WEBVTT - The Athlete Whisperer: Ep. 3, She Was a Cougar 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:06.040 Previously on Queen of the Khan. Although you claim to 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.760 have a graduate degree from Harvard, it's more like your 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.600 resume could be a study in fictional writing at Harvard. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.680 Dennis Rodman's attorney fires Peggy and puts her on blast 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.880 for scamming Dennis out of more than one point two 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.400 million dollars. It was the first public announcement that Peggy 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.840 was stealing. But how did a woman with a slew 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:32.320 of suspicious aliases and questionable qualifications she just didn't understand 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.640 like basic finance puncture the venerated sphere of an NBA 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.760 superstar like Dennis Rodman. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.800 It's an embarrassing situation, and no one wants to come 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.120 out and say I wasn't watching my money. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.680 And this is what happened under. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:51.000 A shroud of secrecy. Peggy tricks athlete after athlete out 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.840 of millions of dollars while literally banking on their shame 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.360 and their silence. Never occur to you. She's doing this 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:58.920 to twenty others. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.960 Wow, hell no, hell no. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.000 And that's why I was so like once I heard 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.800 that she was doing it to other people, And I'm 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.360 like Dennis rob Men we hung out with his homeboy 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.840 and she used to brag about these people and it's like, oh, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.040 you was robbing them too. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.559 I'm Jonathan Walton and this is Queen of the Khan 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:38.720 The Athlete Whisperer, Episode three. She was a cougar. Sent 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:40.920 your best. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:41.759 Yes. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.440 It's May fourth in the year two thousand and Indiana 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.560 Pacers guard Travis Best is on fire. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.040 Travis again. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.520 Sinking ball after ball in a really close game against 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.160 the Milwaukee Bucks. The score is tied now and with 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.840 just sixteen seconds on the clock, Travis, out of nowhere, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:10.239 makes the winning basket, leading his team to victory. That 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:19.040 is it, Indiana Pacers, but the hair. Travis Best earns 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.320 nearly twenty million dollars playing in the NBA for the 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.880 Indiana Pacers, the Miami Heat, the Dallas Mavericks, and the 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.840 Brooklyn Nets, garnering the respect of his teammates and the 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:34.440 admiration of everyone in his life, especially his agent. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.240 Everybody likes Travis. Not only is the person, but his 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.760 ability to play is cerebral. And the point guard it's 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.279 like being a quarterback in football. They make all the decisions. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.200 They decide where the ball is going to go and 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.760 how the offense is set. Up, and that was Travis. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.919 You know, Travis was a guy who had a very 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:55.960 level head. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.320 So Travis Best is making millions of dollars in the 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.280 NBA in the late nineties and early two thousands, and 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:11.240 guess who's managing all that money? Yup, Peggy Fulford. But 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.920 she's going by Peggy King at this point because she's 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.960 married to a wealthy doctor named Forest King, her third 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.520 husband out of five husbands total. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.040 She had husband after her husbands? Is that newar. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.639 Peggy's former assistant again, Chantel Cohen. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.079 Obviously something's working right, you know. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.360 And all these husbands were making over six fig ures, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.280 so she was doing something right. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.920 It's like that song She's a man eater. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:44.360 She is a maniater, Yes, exactly. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.280 Peggy is living with husband number three, doctor Forest King, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.280 in a mansion just outside Atlanta in the nineteen nineties, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.040 in a wealthy neighborhood where the likes of Whitney, Houston 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.920 and Usher have homes. And it turns out that doctor 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.400 Force King has kind of a Midas touch because he 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.040 not only makes a lot of money as a doctor, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:13.280 but he starts a very successful medical management business and 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.359 makes a fortune there too. Peggy's handling the payroll and 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.600 helping him with the books. Then Doctor King skillfully invests 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.840 a lot of the money he's making on Wall Street 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.440 and makes a killing there too, and Peggy is by 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.520 his side the whole time, witnessing how it's all done, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.400 learning the investing lingo, watching all the paperwork go back 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:42.480 and forth. One day, Doctor King decides, in addition to 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.760 medical management, he wants to get into sports management, so 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:52.360 he starts up sports management company called King Management. Then 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.640 he and Peggy throw a lavish party inviting the who's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.880 who of Atlanta, and Travis Best attends. He's playing for 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.279 Georgia Tech at this point, but his sites are firmly 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.000 set on the NBA, and with a little schmoozing and 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.800 seductive savoiffaire from Peggy, Doctor force King signs Travis Best 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:17.440 as King Management's first client, and as the years go by, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.320 Peggy takes complete control of King Management. Even after Doctor 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.960 force King divorces Peggy in early two thousand, he gives 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:33.760 the sports management company to her outright. By this point, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.800 Travis Best is in the NBA making millions of dollars 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.560 playing for the Pacers, and Peggy is managing his finances 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:47.359 while attracting attention from other players. You see, Peggy's cleverly 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.200 curated a reputation for being an investing whiz, and other 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.400 athletes want to be in business with her. So it's 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.360 the early two thousands now and Peggy starts a quieting 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.640 new clients. She won't meet Dennis Rodman until two thousand 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.040 and nine, but in the meantime there's chum in the 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.960 water in the form of perceived opportunity, and other athletes 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.799 are drawn to her like sharks. She seems really, really legit. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.560 Her credentials were her ex husband's business. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.800 Again, Peggy's ex's assistant, Chantelle Cohen. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.279 It was easy for her to ride off of that 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.680 coketail because he already had a successful business going on. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.280 And so for me looking at her, I went with 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.120 her a few places to like one athlete had her 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.719 dress a house in Miami, so we had to go 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.080 in there make sure he had everything he needed party wise, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.680 food wise, liquor wise, and things like that. So I 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.279 witnessed things like that. I met Travis Best. We're really 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.560 good friends. So she was his financial advisor and you know, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.839 everything she did for him, So it was like she 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.760 had the things to show you, and her face because 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.880 obviously she's been working so long to get to that, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.800 so she could show you whatever she needed. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:06.800 You know. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.600 I interviewed one of her husbands, Stanley Williams, in two 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:10.040 thousand and. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:14.080 Two Guardian journalist and author of the book Family, Gangsters 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.200 and Champions Ramon Antonio Vargas recounting the time he talked 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:22.880 to Peggy's fourth husband, Stanley Williams, a wealthy and successful 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.840 anesthesiologist who marries Peggy in two thousand and two. She's 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.440 living in New Orleans at this point, for those of 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.720 you keeping track at home, that's after husband number three, 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.440 the Atlanta area doctor with the Midas touch. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.920 Stanley Williams, he separated from her in two thousand and eight. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.720 What's important about that two thousand and two date is 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.840 the year that the NBA franchise that used to be 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.920 the Hornets arrived in New Orleans, right, and so one 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.880 of the things that Stanley Williams remembers is just how 0:07:54.880 --> 0:08:00.560 she was always socializing with New Orleans Hornets personal right 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.240 baron Dat Chris Paul Stacy Augman, former coach Byron Scott, 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.960 who was a showtime Laker when he was a player, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.800 and he actually describes meeting her at a fundraiser where 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.960 her companion was Wicki Williams, former New Orleans Saints Starr. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.880 It worked both ways, right, Like the company that she 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.720 caps is like wow, like she must be legit. Like 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.280 look at all the access that she has to all 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.600 these people who you know, who dominate like the local 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.040 news coverage in terms of TV, and who are on 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.080 national TV every now and then, and who are in 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.720 the newspaper. That to him also was very much like, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.920 you know, man, like I have a catch here. He 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.280 felt that maybe a lot of these men wanted to 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.000 be to be more than just associates with her, and 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.800 that obviously motivated him to be the best that he 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.040 could be for her as far as to keep her interest. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.960 But what no one knows is that Peggy is stealing 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.440 from her clients. According to court records, she scams more 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.839 than two million dollars from Travis Best over the course 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.760 of a decade. But when he finds that out in 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.240 twenty ten, he doesn't go to police, he doesn't go 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.439 to the press, he doesn't publicly say a peep to anyone. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.520 According to his former. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.880 Agent, Travis hasn't done any interviews with anybody because he 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.240 doesn't want to talk about it. He's embarrassed by the 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.880 whole situation, and he's upset, and he feels like he's 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:26.920 had his soul ripped out. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.120 And Travis Best isn't the only NBA player to go 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.880 gentle into that good night, quietly licking their wounds and 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:39.440 limping away after Peggy scams them five years earlier, she 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.560 cons another NBA player who doesn't go public either. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.360 It is what it is. It's not nothing you could 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:47.800 take back. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.120 That's Rashad mccantz. In the early two thousands, he makes 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.360 a name for himself as a shooting guard for the 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:59.600 Minnesota Timberwolves and the Sacramento Kings. So how did you 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.760 first meet Peggy? 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.520 How did I first meet Peggy? 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.680 Like, what was the year, what were you up to? 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:10.120 How'd it happen? I'm actually kind of surprised by how 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:22.600 Rashad mccentz answers this question after the break, Welcome back 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.160 to Queen of the Khan. I'm talking to one of 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.880 the pro athletes Peggy used to manage the finances for 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.760 and be a shooting guard. Rashad mccent's So how did 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.079 you first meet Peggy? 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.240 Oh, it was two thousand and five. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.160 Two thousand and five. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.720 This was before the draft or any of those things. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:44.960 This is during pretty much the courting season for agents 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.800 finding you know, what players are going to pick up 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.680 for the draft and who's good who's not. I met 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.200 her through a close friend of mine who was Richard 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.280 Hamilton's cousin. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.720 And for people who don't know who's Richard Hamilton. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.880 Richard Hamilton is a basketball player. He played for the 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.920 Detroit Pistons, and his cousin was like a financial advisor, 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.040 and he introduced me to Peggy. At the time, I 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.400 was looking for a pivot because I had just had 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.920 a financial advisor that wasn't giving me the freedoman I 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.920 wanted with my money. So I was just looking for 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:22.560 other avenues. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.800 It's interesting Dennis Rodman was in a similar situation to you. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.199 He was leaving his money manager at the time. From 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.040 what I hear, the money manager had a major drug problem. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.439 He was in a rehab so Dennis Rodman needed to 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.440 find someone new. And Peggy's right there kind of a 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.360 similar situation to you. You left your money manager. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.080 Well, I just wanted more access to my funds. They 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.280 were restricting my funds. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.160 They were restricted, and Peggy seemed to be like, she 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.439 wouldn't be as restrictive. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.360 Well, I would just have more control because I wasn't 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.080 with the actual it was like a bank. It wasn't 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.000 necessarily a financial company. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.520 Okay, it was like a business like corporation. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:03.480 Cold. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.679 Yeah, you felt like a number. You didn't feel like 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.200 you mattered. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.880 Well, it was just the fact that I had to 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.000 go through loopholes to get my own money. I didn't 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.360 want to do that. I wanted what I wanted when 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.960 I wanted it, and I don't want to ask nobody 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:15.520 for nothing. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.679 It's mine, all right. So when I. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.400 Left them getting with Peggy, she put me with sun 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.000 Trust Bank, but she ended up getting the power turning 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.240 and signing up setting up all the trust and all 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:27.760 that stuff. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.040 What's your impression of her? What does she look like, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.560 what'd she sound like? What does she feel like? 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:34.000 Cougar? 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:35.240 She's a cougar? 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.960 Yeah, cougar. She was a cougar. Yeah, cougar. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:41.120 Was she flirting with you? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.360 Yeah, she's a flirter. She's an older woman that you 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:51.640 definitely take down thinking back now, like, yeah, I mean 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.720 Peggy was somebody that would probably have sex with one 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:55.360 of her clients. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.559 Make a note of that, because Peggy's perceived sexual alliances 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.680 are going to come up again and again. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.640 I'm not gonna say that she goes out of her 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.240 way to try to sleep with anybody. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.280 I don't think that that's her personality. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:16.520 But she gives more Auntie vibes than predator I want 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.240 to sleep with you vibe she gives you. You know, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.640 I'm nice, I get drunk, I drink, I loud, you know, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:22.240 I laugh. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.520 But I'm really just praying on you, guys. I'm playing 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:25.880 the game. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.559 And that game in two thousand and five has Rashad 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:34.319 mccantz signing over power of attorney to Peggy. She's supposed 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.080 to be paying his bills while investing the rest of 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:42.800 his money to create what do you call that? Wealth generation? 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:48.040 That was her buzzword to everyone, right, generational wealth generation, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.199 something for your family, your kids, your children, your children's children, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.439 all that. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.480 That's where every financial advisor hits you with them. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.720 Yeah, and that that was appealing. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.880 It wasn't necessarily that it was appealing because I had 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.559 just left a whole other firm to hear the same pitch. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.040 It was the same type of pitch, but it was 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.280 just coming from a black woman who's trying to get 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:11.959 into the industry. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.000 Ah, so you had like a soft spot because like she. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.080 Never nobody had never done it, nobody gave her an 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.760 opportunity to do it. Wow, like this at this level. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.400 And I wasn't thinking of Dennis Robbing and anybody else. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.480 I wasn't asking those questions. It was just say, she's 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.720 good at this. It's what she do. She sounds like 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.960 she knows. She's like, I got my degree in this, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.080 I went to school for this. She's selling it. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.840 Did she tell you she went to Harvard? 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:34.720 She did. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.200 So she came in and just kind of filled all 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.240 the positions, you know as a black woman. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.480 She talked to talk, She got in with my mom, good, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:44.440 my family, and. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.160 Oh and that's just kind of how I had. Once 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.760 they're comfortable with the family, it's an easy decision for 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.600 the athlete to just keep going on if everyone's comfortable with. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.920 Her, and your mom liked her. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.160 Everybody liked her, and she was very good at the 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.400 whole black woman heart strings pull on you with the 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.440 family thing, and we got to stay together and all 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.360 that stuff. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.120 Like you identified with her, your mom identified with her. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.680 Well, my identification with her wasn't so much on what 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.440 she could do, more of the opportunity of giving a 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:24.680 black woman a place in our workspace where she could 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.920 come in and say that she's doing these things for us, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.960 because there wasn't women doing it at the time. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.080 And when you saw her interact in this basketball world, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.520 in this professional basketball world, did she seem to know 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.120 a lot of people? A lot of people seem to 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.520 know her and respect her, Like, what did that look 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.840 like to you? Did that kind of like legitimize her 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.560 to you even more? Did she seemed to fit in? 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.560 Well, I wasn't really legitimized yet because I'm still well 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.320 behind the ears. So the people that I was around 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.040 were grooming me for the NBA and the luxury of 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:01.200 the lifestyle, but I hadn't understood it completely yet to 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.240 be able to weed out what she was doing. So 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.200 a lot of the things she was doing was just 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.920 introducing me to the lifestyle and the people. I didn't 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.320 know none of the people, so she could have introduced 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:12.040 me to anybody. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:13.440 It's all new. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.840 It was all new, it was all new, So I 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.200 was buying BRIONI suits and all different things that I 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:20.840 didn't I didn't need or know. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.360 It was just like, oh, you're in your NBA player, you. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.720 Need this, you should be wearing this, you should be 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.760 driving this, that kind. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:32.320 Of stuff, driving what I had a Range Rover sport nice. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.040 No, at the time, I had a BMW. But then 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.320 she's like, you should be driving a Range Drovers. Just 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:44.200 little small things that made it where I could trust 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.120 adjustments because this felt like the lifestyle. 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.560 It felt like the lifestyle switch. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.640 And how old are you at this point two thousand 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.840 and five, twenty You're twenty years old. So here's this 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.400 woman with like ten times more experience, seems to be 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.680 this huge success telling you how you should look, what 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.440 you soul by, who you should be, and she wants 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.160 to help. Yep, it's an attractive offer. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.680 Eh, you know, especially at that age. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.119 But here's the thing. When Rashad starts playing in the 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.399 NBA for the Timberwolves, it's months before he sees his 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:18.280 first paycheck. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.560 I hadn't had money coming in yet. I hadn't gotten paid. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.320 This was my preseason, but it was coming. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:26.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was definitely coming. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.800 And at that point, in two thousand and five. Peggy 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.960 has all the paperwork in place, She's got power of 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.920 attorney over Rashad's finances, and that first paycheck is earmarked 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:40.720 for her. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.480 At a time it was to get my first check check, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:52.280 it was like nothing's in there because it's all gone. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.520 And the way Rashad finds out that his paycheck is 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.480 all gone is just heartbreaking. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.200 And I couldn't pay for donuts one day. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.720 Picture it Timberwolves training camp in the fall of two 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.680 thousand and five. Rashad's grunt work as a newbie on 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.800 the team is to buy and bring donuts to practice, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.560 but that morning, his debit card is declined at the 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.680 donut shop because his bank account is completely wiped out, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:28.280 and Rashad shows up to practice empty handed and flat broke. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.200 It was my first rookie check, my first Riki check. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.000 I got a call from my agent and saying Peggy got. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:41.240 Us Rashad's first paycheck for two hundred thousand dollars from 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.639 the Timberwolves is mia. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.919 I really shocked that she would do this, and I 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:54.160 trusted her and was completely blindsided, and then not being 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.840 able to get it back, and then just not having 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.800 money I didn't have money in a just got robbed, 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.960 and it being like weird and crazy. I tried not 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.000 to like it, just kind of let it blow over 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.800 and keep going because it was it was like the 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.320 first check, and I knew that if I get her 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.360 out of the way now, we'll never have to deal 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.240 with this again. So it was just kind of a 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.439 you learned, you got burned. This is an NBA lesson. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:23.520 Look out next time. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.959 Peggy is only Rashad's financial manager for a few months 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.920 when she gets away with stealing his two hundred thousand 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.000 dollars paycheck. After you realize what she did, what did 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.000 you do? Did you confront her? Did you try to 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:37.399 text her? 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:38.040 Call her? Yeah? 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:39.760 I tried to call and text what it never got 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.919 through and she ghosted you. Yeah, my agent had figured 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.439 it out, and once he figured it out, he was 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.639 already kind of he wasn't big on her, so he 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.840 already had his antennas up, and when it happened, it 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.200 was just kind of like I knew she was a 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:55.600 bad seed. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:56.640 Didn't feel right. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.720 Did your agent call the cops or do you call 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.639 a cop after you realized what she had done? 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.560 Nope, So she knew she was in it clear because 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:06.760 there was no paper trail. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:07.600 It's a he said. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.040 She said, Oh yeah, he came down here. But where's 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.040 the proof, right, you know? If she has all the 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.080 documents and I don't got the emails. She never sent 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.440 me the stuff, so it's like, where were you here? 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.240 Did you say those things? Did you give her permission? 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.840 Did you say she couldn't take the money. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.639 This is kind of sexism in reverse, because she's the woman, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:34.639 you're the man. She's automatically believed, you're automatically suspected of 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.439 lying that. I've been a victim of that too. A 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.679 month before the trial of my con artist, she follows 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.959 a restraining order against me, claiming I'm threatening to kill her. Crazy, 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.400 I know, but it was brilliant, Yeah, because in nine 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.960 times out of ten, the judge just approves the woman's thing, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:51.760 and I must be the crazy guy trying. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:52.000 To kill her. 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:56.000 Narcissism, Oh my god, it's the worst. These people. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.959 The audacity, Yeah, that they even know they can be 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:01.560 protected through the bullshit that they do. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.639 Yeah. Oh, they're thinking ten steps ahead all the time. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:10.040 The timeline of how Rashad scam intersects with the other 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:15.040 athletes Peggy scammed really paints a disturbing picture. After the break. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.000 Welcome back to Queen of the Khan. I'm talking to 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.919 former NBA shooting guard Rashad mckentz about how Peggy tricked 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.200 him out of two hundred thousand dollars in a matter 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:34.880 of months. 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.080 It was my first rookie check, our first riki check. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.480 I had a call from my agent and saying Peggy 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:42.359 got us. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.760 So Rashad figures out Peggy was scamming him all the 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.439 way back in two thousand and five, four years before 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.439 she began her one point two million dollar scam of 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.560 Dennis Rodman and five years before Travis Best realized she 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.320 scammed him out of more than two million dollar. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.240