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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: content warning on this one very brief mentioned of sexual assaults.

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Speaker 1: We're not really not going to go to it into

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Speaker 1: so that you are aware. So as this comes out,

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Speaker 1: it has just been Disney plus day. All this stuff

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Speaker 1: trailers are coming out. But also the new series Hawkeye

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Speaker 1: is set to debut tomorrow November one, which again I

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Speaker 1: have no idea when you're listening to this, but as

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Speaker 1: of now, that's how it's supposed to be there. And

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Speaker 1: it stars Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye and Hayley Steinfeld as

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Speaker 1: his protege, Kate Bishop, who I told we forgot voice

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Speaker 1: this because Catherine Hahn was in one division, right, but

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Speaker 1: it's true. But now the Multiverse Spider Man No Way

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Speaker 1: don't know why people are tweeting about it so much

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Speaker 1: They were not necessarily going to see the animated version

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not terrible. Yes. The show also features

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Speaker 1: focus on Kate Bishop, primarily her appearances in the comics

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Speaker 1: and the recent Avengers video game. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go in not knowing anything because I know some I

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Speaker 1: have some friends like that, skip this one and come

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Speaker 1: back later. You can't skip it, though, Samantha, you have

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Speaker 1: like air canceling. Just look, this is just a solo

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Speaker 1: Anie episode. So some history, and it's very condensed because yes,

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Speaker 1: a lot happens in these comics, y'all a lot. Um So.

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Speaker 1: Catherine Kate Bishop was first introduced in two thousand five

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Speaker 1: it's complicated, but essentially no. There's also a new five

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Speaker 1: part comic series coming out called Hawkeye Kate Bishop written

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Speaker 1: by Marikae Nishkamp, illustrated by Enid Balaam, with cover illustrated

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Speaker 1: by Janoy Lindsay. And I hope that I am pronouncing

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Speaker 1: those correctly. Case the youngest daughter of a rich family

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Speaker 1: So Kate grew up often feeling pretty lonely. In part

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Speaker 1: interesting that there is this plot line of sexual trauma

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Speaker 1: because now she is now the black widow. That's what

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Speaker 1: way they go, but she's definitely like the mirror black

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Speaker 1: widow or the quote new black widow. But there are many,

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