1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to bet you a Happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm Joe, I'm Serena. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 3: We are here today with Jeremy. Jeremy Welcome. We're in studio. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: Of course, this is a big interview. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been feeling. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 4: I've been feeling I've been feeling good. Yeah, try to 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: stay off the internet, so really spirit with the exception 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: of right after the episode, and I respond to a 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: few comments overall them pretty. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 5: Good, okay, yeah, nice real Yeah, well, you know, I 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 5: know on the internet. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: So yes, I mean, listen, it could be tough. It 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: could be I mean, it's it's very tough getting judged 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: by millions or I don't know about millions, but a 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: lot of people. 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: No, you don't know. Yeah, yeah, and I can see 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: how many people look at my profile really yeah. 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been Uh, you're on the internet. 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's kind of get let's get right 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: into it. We don't really need to know about how 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: you got on and all that, because we've talked to 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: you before. 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 6: Right now. 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: First things first, you're down on the beach. You hit 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: it off with Bailey. She's also talking to Kyle. She 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: ends up choosing you. After that Row ceremony. Where was 28 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: your relationship at at that point? 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, when I went down to 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: the beach, I think I knew a lot of people 31 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: who were going to be there. Bailey i'd met for 32 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: like five seconds before. I didn't really know anything about her, 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: and she really took me, you know, by surprise. Just 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: happened to be sitting next to her and we had 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: a good conversation and she was like, she had such 36 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: a positive energy and her smile and she's obviously beautiful. 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 4: So she really caught me off guard. So it was 38 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: obviously early stages, but I was, you know, very interested 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: in her. I know she was, you know, talking to 40 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: Kyle as well. I didn't really view it as like 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: a competition. I think we were just vibing. 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, as a viewer, it definitely seemed like you guys 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: had a very strong connection r A F the bat, Like, 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: the chemistry is very obvious. There were you surprised when 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: she picked you over Kyle or did you feel pretty confident? 46 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: No? I was. She told me she was gonna give 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: me the rose, so I wasn't I wasn't surprised. 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, So then the following week Susie comes down. 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: She asked you on a date. Yep, tell us about 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: that date. You seem pretty happy to go. Make sense 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: that you would go because it's early on. 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: Had you met Susie before. 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: I never met Susie before. No, we we'd followed each other. 54 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: I didn't think I was going to be asked on 55 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: a date. But then I found out that I was 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: like the only one who talked to her the night before, 57 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: So I guess that makes sense. And yeah, so I 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: went on the date and it was a lot of fun. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: Like it's I think it's hard to go jet skiing 60 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: in Costa Rica and not have fun. And I think 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 4: that like both with Susie and Bailey. I don't think 62 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: I was expecting like either of them, right, and I 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: was pleasantly surprised by both. So then when it came 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: time for you know, the cocktail hour and the row ceremony, 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: I was like in a tough position where I kind 66 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: of felt like the bachelor and I'm definitely not the bachelor, 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: and I was like making this tough decision and I 68 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: ended up picking Bailey. 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: Of course, what drew you in with Susie because we 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 5: see you've obviously spent quite a few days with Bailey. 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 5: I think at this point, like it's obvious that there's 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 5: the connection there, but this one date with Susie has 73 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: kind of made you feel really torn. 74 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: What about Susie drew you in so much. 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough because I had spent a few days 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: with Bailey, but at the same time, it's still early on. 77 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: I didn't want to close myself off, and Susie's a 78 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 4: great girl, and I think we had a great conversation 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: and you know, we were smiling and laughing a lot 80 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: on the date. And I think that's what made it tough, 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: is that I wasn't expecting to be in that position. 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: And when you're in that position and it's so early on, 83 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: you don't know what the future is going to be like, 84 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: you don't know what life's going to be like, and 85 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: you're no matter what, it's kind of like a gamble 86 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: of when you're making that decision. So I just went 87 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: with my gut. 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: If you would have known that Susie was going to 89 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: self eliminate, would you have given her your ros No? 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: I know, you know, I made the comments about thinking 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: that Susie was going to be there, which is true. 92 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: I had a feeling that you know, you know someone 93 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: as and Justin might extend the rose to her. But 94 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't think my decision would have changed. I still 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: would have given Bailey the rose. 96 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: When you told Bailey that you were going to go 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 5: on the date with Susie, what did you expect her 98 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 5: reaction to be. 99 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if I had an idea 100 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: of what her reaction would be. I think she kind 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: of reacted the way that I thought she might, because 102 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: she's like a pretty cool girl. We were only there 103 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: for a few days. I don't think she was going 104 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 4: to say no, and she was just like, yeah, you know, 105 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: go on the date. You know if you still want 106 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: to be with me after, like, I'm. 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 2: Going to be here when Susie goes home. 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: I would imagine as much as you were confident in 109 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: your decision with Bailey, there was probably still this gray 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 5: area of you may have continued exploring both women. Because 111 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 5: we're learning from you guys that come on the podcast, 112 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 5: how quick the turnarounds are happening this season. Like usually 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 5: on our season you had like two or three days 114 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: with someone for a row ceremony. Now it's like bang, 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: someone comes in the next day, you have to make 116 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: a decision. 117 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we I came straight back from my date 118 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: with Susie to getting ready for the cocktail party. 119 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah that's wild. 120 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild. I think Susie was there for like 121 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: twenty four hours. I think that, let's just say, for 122 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: whatever reason, I gave Susie the roseen set of Bailey, 123 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: I probably would have been having the same thoughts about 124 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: Bailey too. You just have no idea, like you're basing 125 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: it off of such a limited amount of time with someone. 126 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So then the following day Andrew comes in. This 127 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: is where things start getting a little slippery. Bailey gets 128 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: asked on a date and you, yeah, for a lack 129 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: of better words, kind of lose your shit. Why And 130 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: did you not, like, in the moment, think like she 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: was so cool about me doing this, you know, twenty 132 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: four hours ago. 133 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I didn't really think in the moment 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: we should work on that. I think the reason why 135 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: I was upset was based on the conversation we had 136 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: the night before, which is when Bailey was like, I'm 137 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: here for you only so in my mind, when someone 138 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: tells me that, it's not like, oh, I'm here for 139 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 4: you until someone comes in tomorrow and asks me on 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: a date. 141 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Did you plush when she said I'm here for you 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: only did you say, well, what if somebody comes down? 143 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: Uh? 144 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: No, I didn't. But we had had a conversation not 145 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: that night but earlier which I told her I'm like, listen. 146 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: And this was even before Susie came down, So in 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 4: the first few days where I was like listen, like 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: I like you, but if someone comes down and asks 149 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: me on a date, like I'm going to go on 150 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: the date type of thing. So yeah, I felt like 151 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: a little misled. But that being said, I still shouldn't 152 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: have reacted to the way that I did. 153 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 6: Like that happened. 154 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: I watched myself on TV, like I look like a child. Yeah, right, 155 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: Like I'm thirty one years old. I probably haven't acted 156 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: like that since I was like nine years old. And 157 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: then do it on camera, and then you do it 158 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: on camera, and you're doing it in front of millions 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: of people, Like obviously I understand. While I'm getting some 160 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: some hate for that, I wish I didn't react like that, 161 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: but yeah, it happens, and I just got to, you know, 162 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: live with it and and that's the decision I made 163 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: in the moment. 164 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: Your frustration from watching it, from what you're telling it 165 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: seems to come from the fact that, yeah, you felt misled. 166 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: You felt like she had said, like, hey, I'm only 167 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: here for you, and we do see that conversation happens, 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: so like you can kind of see where the miscommunication 169 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: is watching it. Do you think if she had said, hey, 170 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: look right now, I'm only here for you, but if 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: someone comes down, I'm still open to exploring, would that 172 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 5: have made your decision harder when it came down to 173 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: choosing if you were going to give you rose to 174 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: Bailey or Susie, Like, do you think that conversation kind 175 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: of made or break your decision? 176 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: No, I don't think it made her break my decision. 177 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: I think I would have given Bailey the rose anyways, 178 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: but like maybe I would have been like less annoyed, okay, 179 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: and how I reacted, But either way, like I I'll 180 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: be the first one to say I should not have 181 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: reacted like that. 182 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: Do you think that you were like locked in on 183 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: Bailey at that point or where you still opened goin 184 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 5: dates you were just really surprised that she also was. 185 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: It's a good question. I don't remember exactly, but I 186 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: think I was like locked in enough that I wanted 187 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: to give her my rose and keep exploring after I 188 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: just went on this date. I don't think that I 189 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: was like expecting to go on another date, which I didn't. 190 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, like I get from like everyone's point of view, 191 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: like I just went on the date, Like why wouldn't 192 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: you extend that grace to to Bailey without getting upset? Like, 193 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: I get it. I see both sides. 194 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: No one's perfect. Yeah, made a mistake. No one's perfect. 195 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 6: You know it is. I get it. 196 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: Like watching it, I'm like, Jeremy, what the fuck are 197 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: you doing? But like I understand, like I could be 198 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: in that situation and just have gotten lost in the 199 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: situation and freaked out in the moment, and you make 200 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: a mistake. 201 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people who know me know I'm like 202 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: a pretty chill dude. And if you don't know, when 203 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: you saw that, you'd be like, this guy's fucking crazy. Yeah, 204 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: And I get that, And that's what happened, and I 205 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: can't take it back, and I just gotta gotta move 206 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: on and learn from it. 207 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 6: We're all a little crazy, that's why we, you know, 208 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 6: go on reality. 209 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah if you were, if you were, if you. 210 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Were completely normal, you wouldn't be on the show. 211 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's that. 212 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: So we see that. 213 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 5: Your response to Bailey going on this date with Andrew 214 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: is you go to a producer, you go to interview, 215 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: and you're like, I want Susie back. 216 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 7: Walk us through. 217 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: Nice move. 218 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 5: What about Bailey's decision to Andrew to go on this 219 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: date with Andrew triggered you wanting to bring Susie back? Like, 220 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: give us some more insight into your thought process here, 221 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: even if you weren't thinking, like what was the emotion 222 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 5: really hesitated. 223 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: Thinking that much? But like it was as simple as 224 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: like she had said this to me. I feel betrayed. 225 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: I had a tough time deciding who to give the 226 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: rose to. Let's call Susie. Yeah, but like obviously Susie 227 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: said no, Like if she said yes, I don't even 228 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: know like what I would do, Like I really wasn't thinking. 229 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: That was gonna be the follow up question. Yeah, you 230 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: have no idea. Have you thought about that at all? 231 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Like what Susie said, Oh you know what, I actually 232 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: just pulled out. We're going to turn the car around. 233 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm coming back right now. 234 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: Like it's it was. It was a heat of the moment, obviously, 235 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, I don't like to live with regrets. I 236 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: wish I handled it a bit differently. 237 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: How do you actually handled it more maturely? What would 238 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: that have looked like? 239 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: Sleeping on it? 240 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 241 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, So Susie ends up not coming back. Now, 242 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: why not tell Bailey this kind of immediately, just like 243 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: hey and I got once, you guys got back together. 244 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: Once she came back from her Andrew date and she 245 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: chose you, why not just come clean and be like, this. 246 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 6: Is what I did. You're gonna see it anyways. 247 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, watching it back, that is one thing I definitely 248 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: wish I did differently, especially because I am a fan 249 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: of communication, Like I could have just told her then. 250 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: I think my reasoning at the time was like, she 251 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: just went on this date. You know, she's having conversations 252 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: with this guy, kissing this guy. I'm not hearing about 253 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 4: any of this. I'm having a conversation with this girl. 254 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: I don't need to tell her about it. But something 255 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: that I did I said in many interviews if things 256 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: progress with Bailey, like I will obviously tell her. You know, 257 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: I'm not just gonna like wait until maybe we can 258 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: engage and tell her, or wait until the show's airing 259 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: and tell her, Like I will tell her. I just 260 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: feel like, because it was still early stages, it wasn't 261 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: necessary at the time. 262 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: Okay, So that's where. 263 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: So that's also I think where you're going to get 264 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: people even now listening to this have a hard time. 265 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: I believe you, because I don't think you're lying, but 266 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: I do think people will hear them and be like, well, 267 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: you had eight days, it seems like your relations ship 268 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: did progress. Yeah, did you still didn't tell her? 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: Listen. I'm in a position where if I become like 270 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: even a little bit defensive, people are like, oh, like 271 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: he's a liar. He's just like, yeah, whatever, blaming it 272 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: on stuff like it's a tough line to, you know, 273 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 4: to to walk on. But the truth is, like I 274 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: was having like thoughts of telling Bailey the whole thing 275 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: with we saw in episode seven. The only reason I 276 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: actually didn't tell her that night was because, like I 277 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: went to sleep. That was my one night to catch 278 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: up on sleep. You guys know, like you don't sleep 279 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: a lot on the show, And I wish I could 280 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: have told her the day before, but the day before 281 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: was like our our one on one date in the competition. 282 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: It's like, if people don't want to believe me, they 283 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: don't have to. But like I genuinely was going to 284 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: tell her. And the reason why I was like pissed 285 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: at Brian was because I feel like that opportunity was 286 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: taken away from me. Sure I technically had a few 287 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: days of opportunity. I just felt like, because it's mine 288 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: and Bailey's relationship, I should be able to tell her, 289 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: like when I feel it's the right time to tell. 290 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: Her, let's take let's take a few steps back, just 291 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: because I want to talk about you. You being in 292 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: your room telling opening up to Brian about you still 293 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: having feelings for Susie helped me out with I guess 294 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: the timeline from that conversation to like when you and 295 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: Bailey got pairedop as a team. 296 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say first off, like that conversation conversation itself, 297 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: I don't remember it all happening. I think Brian might 298 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 4: even say some of it like the same thing, But 299 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: they were all just like their comments, some of them 300 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 4: were jokes. You could even like if you go back, 301 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: I say, I'm kidding in them, and I'm also the 302 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: type of person I'll just say whatever. I'm not going to, 303 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: you know, filter for the camera, whether I mean it 304 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: or not. 305 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: Well, I knew you were joking when you said I 306 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: hate the Goldens because I could tell that one. 307 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was worry about monologues that are going on. 308 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was clearly a joke. 309 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: But the whole timeline between, like from the Susie phone 310 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: call through those comments, it took place over three days 311 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: and we were filming for over three and a half weeks. 312 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: So I mean, that's like the unfortunate part of all 313 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: of this is that, like there are so many good 314 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: moments and like me and Bailey, our relationship develop a 315 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: lot from like that part out, but there was so 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: much focus on three days, which were stretched across three 317 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: episodes that like, of course people are gonna focus on that. 318 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: But if you ask me, and honestly, if you probably 319 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: ask a lot of the cast members, that wasn't like 320 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: a big part of Paradise. 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: It seems like you and Bailey had this like we're 322 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 5: both exploring. 323 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: You know, you explored with Susie. She explored with. 324 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: Andrew, and this kind of like don't ask don't tell 325 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: policy at the beginning of your relationship where it's like, Hey, 326 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to hear about your date. You don't 327 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: want to hear about my day. We're doing other stuff. 328 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: We both know it, but like we're not going to 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 5: talk about it. 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the thought process going on in your mind 331 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 7: of like I'm having these conflicting feelings of like I 332 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: don't know if I'm one hundred percent locked in on Bailey, 333 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 7: but I know she's one hundred percent locked in on me. 334 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: Like where do you draw that line? Because it seems 335 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: like you draw where you're like, I'm not going to 336 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: talk about anything related to choos until I feel like 337 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: I absolutely have to. But now as the viewer, it 338 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: does feel like there's like lying byomission happening. 339 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's unfortunate because I don't I don't think 340 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: of myself as a liar. I get why people could 341 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: see it that way. By watching the show, it was 342 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: essentially like we were both exploring other people. We weren't 343 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: talking about it. If this turns into something real, like 344 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: we will have a conversation about it. 345 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 6: When did it turn into something real? 346 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: Ye? For me? Like the switch for me really happened, 347 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: like when it became like the competition aspect, we obviously 348 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: were learning a lot about each other anyways, but like 349 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: we were so locked in on each other, and it 350 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: really felt like from my part, like feelings were really 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: starting to develop. And even though kind of the competition 352 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: takes place over like four episodes or so, that was 353 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: like really a main part of the whole experience. So 354 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: for me, it was probably around the time of like 355 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: the competition starting and us winning that competition, having that 356 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: amazing date, and really just like the weeks. 357 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: After that, did you guys have a conversation at all 358 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: about like, Okay, we're are we boyfriend girlfriend? 359 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 6: Like where what is our relationship status. 360 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: At this point? 361 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? 362 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: No, in the future weeks, maybe you'll have to tune 363 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: in on ABC and Hulu. 364 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, on your date, the date seems great, Like 365 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: you're seeing your relationship kind of flourish, is it at 366 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: all in the back of your mind of like, but 367 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: at some point I'm going to have to tell her 368 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: this information that's going to really. 369 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: Hurt her one hundred percent. And there was even a 370 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: point in the data where you could see on TV 371 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: where I'm like telling her I'm like, you kind of 372 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: like caught me off guard with the date you were 373 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: going on, Like obviously I'm thinking about that, but like, 374 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: who wants to ruin this like amazing day with that? 375 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: And then literally the next day was when she found 376 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: out in your. 377 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: Mind, what would have been like the perfect time to 378 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: tell her if you had the chance to do it 379 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 5: on your terms. 380 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: So, like I said, I was thinking about doing it 381 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: that night, I chose to get sleep, and I like, 382 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: I can't beat whatever it happens, Like she found out 383 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: a different way, and like we just needed to move 384 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: on from that. 385 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: When Jesse came down and basically introed a whole new show, 386 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: a competition show, and said, no one else is coming down, 387 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: were you guys like locked off at that point? Or 388 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: would you if people were still coming down? Do you 389 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: think Bailey or yourself would have gone on another day? 390 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: No, neither of us wouldn't would have gone on another date. 391 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so you guys were You may not have 392 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: been boyfriend girlfriend, but you were exclusive in paradise terms. 393 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we both kind of said that 394 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: in interviews. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. 395 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: All right, let's dive into the big episode where Bailey 396 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 5: finds out. So before we get into it, we do 397 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: see that Spencer and Alex both Stadio on separate occasions. 398 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: We don't know exactly when it's just like clips. 399 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 5: Back saying like, you have to tell Bailly this information, 400 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 5: like she has to know and everyone here knows except 401 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 5: for her. Were you at any point worried that someone 402 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 5: would tell her before you got the chance to? 403 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think I was worried because again, 404 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: like I didn't think it was anyone's place too, even 405 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: though they had the information. I don't know how everyone 406 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: found out about it obviously, like it's a small beach 407 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: and people talk. I told a few people about it, 408 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: but then then words spread. But no, I wasn't worried 409 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: because I still thought it was like my place to 410 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 4: tell her. 411 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 412 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: Okay, So Brian decides to tell Bailey. We see this 413 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 5: whole rendezvous thing happened first where she comes to you 414 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 5: and says like, hey, Brian asked me to go for 415 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: this rendezvous. Did any part of you think, Oh my god, 416 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: I wonder if he's going to tell her. 417 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: Were you like, is he trying to hit on Bailey? 418 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: Like? 419 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: What even is happening. 420 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: No, the phone call wasn't even like a thought in 421 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: my mind. Like even the conversation with Brian from like 422 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: a few weeks PI, I don't even remember having that, 423 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: Like I didn't even realize that he knew that information, 424 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: like the week the episode before when there's that whole 425 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: like Godfather scene between me and Brian, and I think 426 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: people think it's about the phone call. That's not what 427 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: it was about. I'd even told him in that conversation 428 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: like we're not sending you home. So No, it wasn't 429 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: a thought in my head that Brian was going to 430 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: tell him. I did think it was like a little 431 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: weird that he asked around a secret rendezvous. It was 432 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 4: like I was like, what are you doing? Like I 433 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: know you and Paris aren't like so strong, but like, 434 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: are you're really going to try to talk to Bailey? 435 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 436 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: I found it odd. 437 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: Do you think do you think Brian told Bailey because 438 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: he felt bad for Bailey and cared about her? Or 439 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: do you think Brian told Bailey because that's a competition 440 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: and want it you gone? 441 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: What do you think? 442 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: What do you think? 443 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 4: What do you think? I Brian and Bailey were not 444 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: friends again? 445 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: They Wren because he's he as a viewer, he's I 446 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: love Bailey. 447 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: Oh I saw it. Yeah, I didn't see that in 448 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: person on the beach. I don't think anyone did. I 449 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: think he was trying to play a game and he 450 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: thought it was it was a good move. 451 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, how is it? Watching back that conversation between 452 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: Brian and. 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: Bailey, Like, I just wish that he had like came 454 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: up to me first. And of course people are gonna 455 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: be like, oh, you had your opportunity. Sure, I still 456 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: think you should have came to me first. At the 457 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: end of the day, I can't control what someone else does. 458 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: It was it was a hard watch obviously. I don't 459 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: like seeing Bailey like that. 460 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, she then comes to you, wakes you 461 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 5: up out of your deep, deep slumber. 462 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 6: Real quick, real quick, though, real quick. Keep going. 463 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: But I just want to ask this real quick, from 464 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: a competition standpoint, as this game is, as the show 465 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: is somewhat changed, do you fault Ryan for doing it? 466 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: If it was a move, if it was if it 467 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: was a move to get you out of the competition. 468 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: No, I don't fall Okay, yeah, but it's going off 469 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: that I don't think it was out of a goodness 470 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: of his heart or like a friendship loving thing. I 471 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: think it was a It was a move, and it 472 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: was sure well played. I don't think it worked, but yeah, okay. 473 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Nice Bailey wakes you up. 474 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 5: The shot of you half asleep to like wide awake 475 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: is like just an incredible shot. I can't believe they 476 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 5: got such a close up of your eyeballs on camera. 477 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: There were a lot of cameras, and it's just. 478 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 5: That moment of like you can see you going from 479 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: like what happened? Like you're probably thinking like, oh, did 480 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 5: you go on the rendezvous? 481 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: What happened? And then it's just like shock. So obviously 482 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: you were not expecting this. 483 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: Tell us about that conversation between you and Bailey when 484 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 5: she's asking what happened? You know, we hear her say 485 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: like do you want to be with her? 486 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: She really distraught. 487 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly don't even remember like the first minute 488 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: of that conversation. So, like I said before, that was 489 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: going to be like my night to catch up on sleep. 490 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: I was in like such a deep sleep and I 491 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: woke up. I was like, what is going on? But 492 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: obviously I woke up very quickly there were apologies that happened, 493 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: and you know, I apologize and talked about it a 494 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: little bit, and we pretty much agreed that like we 495 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: could continue the conversation like the next morning after, because 496 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: I wanted to give her time to like digest things. 497 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: I think the part that like kind of sucks about 498 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: all of that is that it kind of makes it 499 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 4: seem like, I, you know, we have this short conversation, 500 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: I just like don't care and go to sleep, which 501 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: is not at all what happened. Just to be very 502 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: clear on that, we had a conversation, she was pulled 503 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: for an interview. I tried saying good night to her 504 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: and to continue talk to her for probably like forty 505 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: five minutes. So then when you see me like all 506 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: angry by the bar, I was like looking for I 507 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: was like, I just want to say good night to 508 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: her and then talk to her. Yeah, and then I 509 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: was like, fuck it, I'm just going to sleep after 510 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: like an hour or. 511 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: Okay, can you give us a little bit more about. 512 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: What was said in that conversation between you and Bailey, 513 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: Like what is she saying to you? 514 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: What are you saying back to her? 515 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it almost seems as if you were. It 516 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: almost seems like Bailey's crying and then and she's almost 517 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 3: like apologizing to you for being upset. 518 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, just give us more insight into the conversation between 519 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: the two of you. Yeah, like you're saying, you know, 520 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 5: I apologies were given, Like, tell us about those apologies. 521 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. I I apologize for a bunch of things, obviously 522 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: for the phone call first off, Secondly for not telling her, 523 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: thirdly for her needing to find out from someone else 524 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: that that wasn't me. She was very upset, which and 525 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: I hate seeing her cry. So I really just like 526 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: wanted to, you know, make sure she was in an 527 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: okay headspace, like as okay as she could be. And 528 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to try to like I wasn't going 529 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 4: to try to like influence her or sell her on 530 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 4: being with me. I'm like, I fucked up. I want 531 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: to be with you. She asked, like, Oh, do you 532 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: want to be with her? No, Like, I haven't thought 533 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 4: about her in a long time. I want to be 534 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: with you. And I know she needed to gather her thoughts. 535 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 4: I know she needed to like digest things and like 536 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: sleep on it. And that's like what I wanted to 537 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: let her do, and we like we pretty much said 538 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: that we would, you know, talk and like go on 539 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: a walk the next day. 540 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: What did you think when you woke up in the morning, 541 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 3: What's going to happen? Did you think she was going 542 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: to leave her stay? 543 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: I really didn't know. She she was like an hour 544 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: late to our walk, which I don't blame her. She 545 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: had a she had a rough night, so I think 546 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 4: at first I was like kind of nervous. There was 547 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: a part of our convers station where like I asked 548 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: her like, like, do you even want to accept my 549 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 4: rose like later because it was the same day as 550 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 4: a rose ceremony, and she said yes. So we kind 551 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 4: of just like talked about things out. There was a 552 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: part shown where she's asking me about the comment about 553 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: like proposing to Susie. Yeah, if you go and look 554 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: back at that, Like, first off, like my humor as 555 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 4: dry as it is, I don't even remember saying that, 556 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 4: But if you go back, I say, like, I'm kidding, like. 557 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 5: Right after that comments very obviously a joke everyone out 558 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 5: here that thinks that you were actually planning and proposing 559 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: to Susie. 560 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: For a day, but I get it. But like when 561 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 4: when she asked me, like, I genuinely, like I swear 562 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: to God on camera, I don't remember saying that. 563 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, were you cringing when it was aired back 564 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: and you were like. 565 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: And something that me and Bailey talked about in that 566 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 4: conversation was like listen, like even if there were comments 567 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 4: made about Susie, like you know how joking I am 568 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: like me and Bailey between us, we would joke about Susie. 569 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: So I'm like, no, I didn't say that, but if 570 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 4: things were said like like I want to be with you, 571 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: just to be very clear, yeah, okay. 572 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: So now we see what seems like the rest of 573 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: the cast, or most of the cat I want to say, 574 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: all of them are pretty upset at Brian for telling 575 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: Bailey Yeah why. 576 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: I think there are a few reasons. I think one, 577 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 4: they don't think that Brian should have inserted himself into 578 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: someone else's relationship when he had his own relationship to 579 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: work on. That was first. Second off, I think that 580 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: as much as Brian wants to say like, oh I 581 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 4: love Bailey, I'm friends with her, I don't think anyone 582 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: actually thought that. And I thought they were doing it 583 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: as like a gameplay, a strategic move. To like maybe 584 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: send us home and keep himself there. And also like, 585 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 4: you only see so much of what's happening, And I 586 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: think people knew how strong of a relationship that Bailey 587 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: and I had, one of the strongest of the strongest 588 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: there genuinely at the time. And the whole phone call 589 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: and comments were really like such a small thing of 590 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: what happened. And people know who I am as a person, 591 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: and they know I was there for Bailey, and I 592 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: just don't think they like how Brian went about everything. 593 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 5: What part do you think Bailey was the most upset 594 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: about out of the entire thing, Like the phone call, 595 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 5: the comments that you're not telling her her you potentially 596 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 5: still being like wanting Susie, Like, what do you think 597 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: the biggest piece of it was. 598 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think all of it plays in a factor. 599 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: I think she was obviously upset that I didn't tell her, 600 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: and I would be too. I wish I did it before, 601 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: but I can't go back and change that. I also 602 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: think she was definitely upset that, like some of her 603 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: friends didn't tell her. Yeah, it's she was in a 604 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: really shitty position. 605 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: Were you surprised by everyone's reaction to what Brian did. 606 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: That, they were like going after him. 607 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, were you surprised that the rest of the cast, 608 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 5: or at least a lot of them, were in a 609 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 5: way villainizing Brian for telling Bailey what had happened. 610 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: No, I wasn't surprised at all. I guess I could 611 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: see why America was surprised, but I don't think anyone 612 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: in the cast was surprised. I think he did it 613 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: for a reason. And yeah, you. 614 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 5: Think that the core of why they were mad at 615 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: Brian was that he did it for malicious reasons and 616 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: self serving reasons. 617 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so what did you know? 618 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: We we see in this episode Brian is kind of 619 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: like backtracking with you of like what he did, Like 620 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: like I got you, like. 621 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 6: I owe you? 622 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: What was the conversation before that? Did you guys like talk? 623 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: Did he apologize? Like where are you? Where do you 624 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: guys stand? 625 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: It definitely comes across like, hey, I know that I 626 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 5: did something that messed with your relationship last week. I 627 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 5: feel guilty about it, but just know that moving forward, 628 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: you have my loyalty. And it's hard to kind of 629 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 5: get a read on exactly how you're feeling where you 630 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: stand on that conversation. 631 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I as much as I didn't like how he 632 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: went about the whole thing with Bailey, I respected that 633 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: he came up to me and tried to talk to 634 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: me about it. I don't respect still what he actually did, 635 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: but I do like that he came up to me. 636 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: But that wasn't going to like change you know, how 637 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: I was going to vote or anything like that. 638 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: Do you? 639 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: And you may not know the answer to this, but 640 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: where does Bailey stand on the Brian of it all? 641 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: Is she? I can't speak on her behalf? 642 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: Okay? 643 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 644 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: Was she defending Brian after everything went down when everyone 645 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: was mad at him? 646 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: I don't exactly remember, but I mean she was obviously, 647 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: you know, happy that someone told her about the call 648 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: and that was Brian, So I think, you know, she 649 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 4: defended him in that sense, But yeah, I don't really 650 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: remember it. Yeah. 651 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 652 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 5: In terms of her relationships with the girls that were 653 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 5: her closest friends, we don't really see much fallout other 654 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 5: than maybe a little bit of her conversations with Alex, 655 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 5: and then in this next episode everything seems to be okay. 656 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 5: Were there maybe conversations that we didn't see, Were people 657 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: apologetic towards Bailey or did they really root themselves in 658 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 5: the fact that, like, no one should have said anything 659 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: and it should have. 660 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Come from Jeremy. 661 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to speak on something I don't know. 662 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: I wasn't part of any of those conversations. I'm sure 663 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: they were apologetic, but like I again, I really see 664 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 4: both sides of it. It's like one of course, they 665 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: want to tell her, but like on the other side, 666 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: like they want to give me the opportunity to as well. 667 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 6: Got it? Okay? 668 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: Well, I think I mean for the most part, we 669 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: pretty much covered all of it. 670 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: But I do ask anything, what about like all the 671 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: good parts of our relationship? 672 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 6: We could talk about that. 673 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: Before we get into that, though, I want to ask 674 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: who did you vote for this week to go Home? 675 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: What was it? 676 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: It was it Brian and Brian pars Shut? 677 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, was that who you voted for? 678 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. So. 679 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: I was gonna say we covered most of the most 680 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: of it, But is there anything you do want to 681 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: touch on as far as your relationship with Bailey and 682 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: what people may not see. 683 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: No, I think it's just like, I mean, you're shown 684 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: maybe zero point one percent of what happens. I get 685 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: that it makes for good TVs. So I think that 686 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: there was so much placed on a few days of 687 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: drama when realistically, like if you ask me or her 688 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: or anyone back, like Paired was great, Like there were 689 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: so many people forming strong relationships and that really is 690 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: like the bulk of paradise, which was us developing a 691 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 4: strong relationship and like the stuff you see in the 692 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: most recent episode, like her, you know, doing this great 693 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: thing for my birthday and getting me cakes and all that. 694 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: So I just wish that more of that was shown 695 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: in that people really understand that we were forming such 696 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: an amazing relationship and a lot of like the drama, 697 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 4: it was like so old and we were very much 698 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: past it. 699 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: At this point, At this point in your relationship in 700 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: the show, are you guys having conversations about after the show? 701 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 6: Yet? 702 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: We definitely were talking about like life after the show 703 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: and you know what it would look like where we 704 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: would be living and things like that. 705 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 6: Got it. 706 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 5: Do you feel like all the drama that went down 707 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: inevitably made you stronger? Do you think it set you 708 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 5: guys back a pace? 709 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why. And like I was saying before, it's 710 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: like I don't like to live with regrets, like the 711 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: show and the stuff that happened went down, like how 712 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: it went down, and we were really strong. So of 713 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: course there were things that I wish I did differently, 714 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 4: but like also everything that we went through made us 715 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: like such a strong couple. We went through a lot 716 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: of stuff, and like I know that we made such 717 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: a great team, not just like in the competition aspect, 718 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: but like outside of it, and like how we would 719 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: talk to each other and and even deal with like 720 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: the voting and stuff, and she was such a great 721 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: like partner and teammate. So yeah, it probably definitely made 722 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: us stronger. 723 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: Nice all right, Jeremy, anything else you want to say 724 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: before we let you go? 725 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: No, nothing, all the top of my ad. 726 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 6: Nice. 727 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah it was, I'm actually really glad we did 728 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: this in person too. 729 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 6: Fun. Thank you so much for coming on betch our 730 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 6: happy Hour. 731 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Of course, thanks for having me and to our listeners. 732 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. 733 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: Will have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks 734 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 2: for listening. 735 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: Bye.