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Speaker 1: Squar Space Baby Around the NFL Podcast believes in spiritualities

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Speaker 1: from another dimension. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with some heroes.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling to my left, Greg Rosen thought to my right,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Boys? Mark under the weather cannot be with

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Speaker 1: He'll be back and strong for when we tape our

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Speaker 1: big free Agency preview later this week. Big Week, Big Week.

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Speaker 1: This week we're gonna do our three regularly scheduled shows

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Speaker 1: know I've heard NPR type places pronounce it primer pm

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Speaker 1: the primer League. Greg, you were you always take the

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Speaker 1: get to work. Well, Good Morning America, I believe pre

428
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Speaker 1: dates Good Morning Football, So I'm just saying no, so

429
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Speaker 1: that I don't think that's true. Actually the heat would

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Speaker 1: be directed towards the NFL, but should be ridiculous because frankly,

431
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Speaker 1: Good Morning America. Uh, you're not the top Good Morning anymore.

432
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Speaker 1: You're We've come for your Good Morning corner. You might

433
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Speaker 1: have your little Michael Strahan and whatever else going on

434
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Speaker 1: over there. We've got chemistry, We've got a show that's

435
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Speaker 1: all football. You give me shrager, give me a shrag

436
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: bomb any day over Robin Roberts type. That's all I'm

437
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Speaker 1: gonna say. They don't have a Kyle Brandt on Good

438
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Speaker 1: Morning America. Look, Kay, Adams flying High did not expect

439
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Speaker 1: any shots towards Robin Roberts on this show, but you

440
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Speaker 1: didn't say it was a shot, not necessarily shot, but

441
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Speaker 1: all right anyway, Uh yeah, man's that was on Good

442
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Speaker 1: Morning America, which they could be like, what's this? I

443
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: love Good Morning America? How dare you? Guys? I think

444
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: it is the number one morning show on forever, and

445
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, I've never seen one episode of Good

446
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Speaker 1: Morning America, shots fired. My mom was a Today's show

447
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: perst n As, as was my well. I kind of

448
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Speaker 1: rerapped the peacock in general. My wife works for the company.

449
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 1: To full disclosure. Anyway, that's network talking. We'll save that

450
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Speaker 1: for the major network podcast coming up a little later

451
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Speaker 1: in the offseason. Uh big ghet. Though. For Good Morning America,

452
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Speaker 1: they got Johnny Manzella talk about his troubled his troubles

453
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Speaker 1: and here's what Johnny had to say, revealing that he

454
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Speaker 1: was diagnosed as bipolar. And before that diagnosis came, uh,

455
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Speaker 1: he messed up. Going back throughout the last a couple

456
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Speaker 1: of years of my life, I was self medicating with

457
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Speaker 1: alcohol and guess what I thought was making me happy

458
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Speaker 1: and help me get out of that depression to a

459
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Speaker 1: point of where I felt like I had some sense

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Speaker 1: of happiness. But at the end of the day, near

461
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: left staring at the ceiling by yourself, and you're back

462
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Speaker 1: in that that depression and back in the whole a

463
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Speaker 1: dark hole of sitting in a room by yourself, being

464
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Speaker 1: super depressed, thinking about all the mistakes you've made in

465
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Speaker 1: your life. What did that get me? Where did that

466
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Speaker 1: get me? Except out of the NFL. Where did that

467
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Speaker 1: get me? Disgrace? You hope, you hope West that that

468
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: the light did go on from Manzel. He has become

469
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Speaker 1: a punch line, and he earns his punch line status.

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Speaker 1: But this guy was a fascinating college prospect, a guy

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Speaker 1: that a lot of I still remember walking home from

472
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Speaker 1: Radio City Music Hall with Mark Sessler back to the

473
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Speaker 1: hotel in New York, and both of us are kind

474
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: of him obviously on fire as the Browns, but even

475
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: me as just a friend of Marx and a guy that, oh,

476
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Speaker 1: the Browns finally going to become exciting again. And then

477
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Speaker 1: to see all that get wiped away so quickly, you

478
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Speaker 1: hope that he's going to figure it out. His football

479
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Speaker 1: career probably over at this level, but if you can

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Speaker 1: get his life back on track, that would be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him get his life back on track.

482
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Speaker 1: I think most of us in America believe in second chances.

483
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Speaker 1: It feels like Johnny Manziel has had more than two

484
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Speaker 1: chances by now. Um, it doesn't surprise me that that

485
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: he's had a wake up call in epiphany. It's almost

486
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Speaker 1: like this is in the script about this time in

487
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Speaker 1: his career. You expect him to say, oh, yeah, I've

488
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Speaker 1: learned some lessons. I hope to get another shot. The

489
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Speaker 1: book's coming next, Yeah, the book's coming next. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if his game's ever going to translate to

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Speaker 1: the NFL level. I just don't know if he ever

492
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Speaker 1: had it. So, I mean, he's so slight and frame

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Speaker 1: take everything else out of And Marvin Lewis called him

494
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Speaker 1: a midget. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna say, great, Well, just maybe he'll get a

496
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Speaker 1: chance and in the CFL or the XFL. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: XFL is never gonna actually happen, by the way, but that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's in a couple of years. It's tricky because

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Speaker 1: you can see he's trying to, you know, do a

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Speaker 1: public um rehabilitation too along with what he's doing privately,

501
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's challenging. I mean, my brother's bipolar.

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Speaker 1: My I've had have a lot of family and friends

503
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Speaker 1: have who have dealt with melt mental illness, and adding

504
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Speaker 1: whatever else is going on in Johnny Manziel's life, including

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Speaker 1: substance abuse, which was a significant part part of all this.

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Speaker 1: Trying to handle all that in addition to like you're

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Speaker 1: making this public announcement and kind of campaign almost to

508
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Speaker 1: kind of get back, and it's all it's it's tricky.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's tough to accomplish all of

510
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Speaker 1: that and being under the spotlight. And I think being

511
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Speaker 1: a world famous quarterback does not make any of that

512
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Speaker 1: path easier. And it's not a it's not a straight path.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm breaking any news here. But it's

514
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Speaker 1: not like you're like, Okay, well now now I know

515
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Speaker 1: that everything's cool. Now now I'm I'm good to go.

516
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Speaker 1: It's it's a daily, yearly. It's something you're dealing with,

517
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Speaker 1: you know, for your life, and I don't know, it's

518
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Speaker 1: it's tough. It's a weird combination of like trying to

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Speaker 1: get his career. I don't know if his career as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback goes with all that. I think that path

521
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: has more twists and turns For a guy who comes

522
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: from wealth, has been spoiled for most of his career,

523
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: has had opportunities that other people wouldn't get, and his

524
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: head excuses made for him that other people wouldn't have.

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: I think all of that contributes to where he is

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Speaker 1: right now. Um, finally in the news, Lara Fitzgerald. Oh yeah,

527
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: it's slept pro am time for NFL players. Uh, if

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Speaker 1: you're not aware what that is, golfing and you get

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Speaker 1: paired up with a professional and it's basically a two

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Speaker 1: man team, Am I right? I think this is all right.

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Speaker 1: It's up Pebble Street, right up the Pebble st we're

532
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Speaker 1: really showing our golf. Hey, yeah, you just take a

533
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Speaker 1: left on old Pebble Street. You ever play? Oh, she's abute.

534
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Speaker 1: I've been to that course. Wait do they I see?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I feel like at the end

536
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Speaker 1: of the tournament though, it's just like the real players

537
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Speaker 1: are in the final groups or do they have it

538
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: where like Bill Murray's walking with the guy who's trying

539
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Speaker 1: to win the tournament at the end of the day

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I feel like that. Before you dig into

541
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Speaker 1: that a little bit, let me just say that Larry Fitzgerald,

542
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Speaker 1: along with p G A pro Kevin Streelman, big Streelman

543
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: fan over here, won the A T and T Pebble

544
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Speaker 1: Street Pro Am over the weekend when they score forty

545
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Speaker 1: one under par and included a twelve under sixty in

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Speaker 1: the Sunday's final round. That's how you close out. It's

547
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: like when Jack, when Tiger used to put on the

548
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: red shirt and you say, I'm just gonna destroy everybody

549
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: on sing victory Red. Wait forty one under par? Yeah

550
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: it must. I mean where they was like a mini

551
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: golf course. Beach was like tough, we don't know anything.

552
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: They must No, I think this is a par forty seven.

553
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: The little I know is that they make professional golf

554
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: course Like if if a pro PGA guys just going

555
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: out on your normal courses, Yeah, they're they're they're gonna

556
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: put up some insane numbers. They make it so difficult

557
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: for the pros that when they have an event like

558
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: this where they maybe they kind of got to even

559
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and out because you got all these amateurs actually playing

560
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: with them, that the pros just eat, just crush them, crushing. Yeah,

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00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: and uh well there you go. That makes sense. Great,

562
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: good job, um. And I I consider myself a pretty

563
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: big sports fan, not just football. One of my weaknesses

564
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: has always been in like casual especially if like guys

565
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: talking sports. I'm always completely okay. I could talk in

566
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: like a party or a bar or whatever. But if

567
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm a total bro. But if somebody starts talking golf

568
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: and and somebody starts throwing around the word handicap, I

569
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: start to sweat because I still don't know what it means.

570
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: It's like, what's your handicap? Don't don't ask me that

571
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: because I don't know what that means. Does anybody know

572
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: what handicap? Of course I know, I worked at two

573
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: golf course. What does it mean? High school? But I

574
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: actually don't care. Don't tell Yeah, I leave the room

575
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: and go find an interesting conversation. Go, no, I do,

576
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: I will, I will watch I liked I loved playing

577
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: golf as a kid, as like you know, when I

578
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: worked at the courses and then in college and stuff.

579
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: But it's kind of gone by the wayside with TI

580
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: and I've lived in cities where it's not easy, and

581
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: especially I never liked watching I thought it was a

582
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: terrible spectator sport. And I watched everything as a as

583
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: a kid, and I even though I love playing it,

584
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I never like watching it. I think you're crazy. I

585
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: think there's honestly one of the most exciting events in

586
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: sports is Sunday at the Master. Yeah, I'm with you,

587
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you to see the beauty of the course,

588
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: especially that time of year in Georgia. You could just

589
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: go to Google maps for that. That. I mean, I'd

590
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: rather read a book I've been putting off for sixteen

591
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: years than watch golf. Well, west strong opinion on golf

592
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: the Masters is which one's father's day is at the

593
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: US Open. Yeah, that's another great one. I like watching

594
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: that on Sundays are But anyway, good golf talk. My

595
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: question I wanted to ask, so congratulations to Larry fitz

596
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: for winning that. What leisure activity would you, gentlemen, go

597
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: all in on if you had the time or resources.

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00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: West I'm guessing it's not golf for you. What would

599
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: it be? Now? I am terrible at golf. I think

600
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I've probably made the most money in two on two basketball.

601
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: But at this stage in my life, this is your

602
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: leisure activity. Well, you don't necessarily need to make money

603
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: in this leisure activity, but but you've made a lot

604
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: of money into a bathroom. Billy Hoyle and a white

605
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: man jump in early twenties. There was a friend of

606
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: mine and I we say we don't lace him up

607
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: for less than twenty Wow, that's see that saved that

608
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I want I actually would watch that pod or listen

609
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: to that podcasts like Loops Hustling save that for the

610
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: low level gambling. You joke about Billy Hoyle, But we

611
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: went by the King and the Duck. Who was the

612
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: king and who's the duck? I was the duck? Why

613
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: was that? You're playing style was ducks dusk duck esque. No.

614
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I think if you take a look at West, you're

615
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: not like, hey there's a basketball star. No offense we want,

616
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, we're playing in Mama Boy suburbia, so

617
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: we want about sev straight games with two on two.

618
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Wait so wait, so that's your answer, you're gonna breaking.

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: I think corn holes the answer at this stage of

620
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: my life. I think that would be the leisure time

621
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: activity I could most uh the most best chance of mastering. Yeah,

622
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I thought about I thought about corn because I enjoyed

623
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: playing it. It's outdoors, you can drink one thing I

624
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: I've always been good at and I could get really

625
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: good at it if I just practice. Was shooting a

626
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: little stick, playing a little pool. Oh yeah, I've seen

627
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: your scat Man Crawls act. Yeah, I took down I

628
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: took down scat Man Crawler's once at a he was

629
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: a pool shark at a bar. Uh lost and found

630
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: here in West l A. And he was so angry.

631
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: That's made up Pansas name. I just realized from a

632
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: scot Macrawler is a famous actor. Rest in peace. But

633
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: uh he was in the shining But uh, this man

634
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: looked like scat Man Crawlers. Might have been the ghost

635
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: of scat Man Crawler's But he was like one of

636
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: those pool sharks that goes to the same table, brings

637
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: his own stick. Where's the glove? And then this jamac

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Speaker 1: rolls over the old zeuser and grabbed the stick off

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Speaker 1: the wall. And I took him down, and he was

640
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Speaker 1: so angry that he left the bar. The said the

641
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Speaker 1: ghost out Mark. Mark and I were witnesses for this.

642
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Speaker 1: But and I am I could play pool, I just

643
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Speaker 1: have not. I played so little now that I don't

644
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Speaker 1: have the skills. You have to practice. But if I

645
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Speaker 1: could do that, if I had all this time in

646
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Speaker 1: the world. So it was a scenario. You've you've made

647
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Speaker 1: a lot of money and you can just do whatever

648
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Speaker 1: you want. Are we are we still working at the NFL.

649
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Speaker 1: You can take the money out of it. You now

650
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Speaker 1: work twenty hours a week basically. Okay, so there's still like, no,

651
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Speaker 1: there's no like tennis, not trying to make a career

652
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Speaker 1: out of it or anything. Just you know, something you

653
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Speaker 1: like to do that you can get really good at.

654
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say some gambling, but that wouldn't be allowed,

655
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Speaker 1: wouldn't That wouldn't be allowed, Plus that would be just

656
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Speaker 1: a leisure activity. I mean, I would just ramp up

657
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Speaker 1: with my favorite one now, which is reading, because I

658
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like I don't have to Is that is that

659
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Speaker 1: allowed to be a competitive reader? It has to be

660
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Speaker 1: a competition. It's just time to It's time that you're

661
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Speaker 1: gonna use. There's not enough time in the world to

662
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Speaker 1: read all the things you want. Okay, ready for Ruin

663
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Speaker 1: in the segment. No, I mean it's an honest answer.

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Speaker 1: That is my I was gonna say, like you can

665
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Speaker 1: maybe like be and you know, this is supposed to

666
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Speaker 1: be like a hustle. I thought, was I'm not doing

667
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Speaker 1: it as a hustle A skill? Are you using reading? Is? Oh? No?

668
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: I thought he's something that I thought he's had leisure

669
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Speaker 1: time activities. If he's just talking skill, then I think

670
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Speaker 1: I'll If Dan is just talking about all right, you

671
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: gotta work on a skill something that I get back

672
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Speaker 1: into playing tennis. I was gonna say you would be

673
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: like a hunky tennis instructor for like, No, I wouldn't

674
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Speaker 1: want to be a country structor, but I yeah, I

675
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Speaker 1: just want to start playing a little more collectively back Martha, Yeah,

676
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: because some like those tight tennis shorts where the white

677
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Speaker 1: tam post she wants to start playing. So I'm gonna

678
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Speaker 1: have a play some tennis with Tim Posty Gonza. We

679
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Speaker 1: might have to start like it, but yeah, I need

680
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Speaker 1: some practice that second serve as really struggling these days.

681
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Speaker 1: Tempose reached out to me over the weekend about being

682
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Speaker 1: on the softball team. I said, listen, as as of now,

683
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Speaker 1: I filed the retirement papers. I am not necessarily the

684
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Speaker 1: coach here the roster in general. I don't know if

685
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a softball team this year, but if

686
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Speaker 1: there is, you're absolutely welcome. You've got a major breadth

687
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Speaker 1: talk a little free agency primer. So, like I said,

713
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Speaker 1: later this week, good stuff. We're gonna have a whole

714
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Speaker 1: video show, um, all about free agency, breaking it down

715
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Speaker 1: in different tiers, and we're gonna really dig in deep

716
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Speaker 1: on the class. But for today, this is kind of

717
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: just like dip our toe in the water. What's going

718
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Speaker 1: on with the free agency scene? I am lucky to

719
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: have the two scientists on my left and right. Every year,

720
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Speaker 1: as you know, as the entire country is aware, Um,

721
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Speaker 1: they put together their top See, they never quite between

722
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Speaker 1: me and the audience. They've never quite properly branded this

723
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Speaker 1: because it's all right, is it one oh one? Because

724
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's sometimes it's there once. Yeah, there was some

725
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Speaker 1: sort of programming issue where it's sticking with So it's

726
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Speaker 1: one oh one. I thought I tried to stick with

727
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: one on one last year and they made you do

728
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Speaker 1: a hundred. One of one is a great number. So

729
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: if we were only on a brand this properly, it's

730
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Speaker 1: time to settle on a number. Let's hope it's one

731
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Speaker 1: oh one. You guys put together your heads and come

732
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: up with the list. We're not quite there yet. You

733
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: guys still love your scientists work to do on that front,

734
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Speaker 1: But for now, let's have a conversation. First of all,

735
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: will start here west. Where does this free agency class

736
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: rank with last year's class? It feels like it's lesser,

737
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of that is is hard to say

738
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: before we know the franchise tag, guys, but I think

739
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: you can assume that Levy On Bell we'll be off

740
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Speaker 1: the market. Drew Brees will resign with the Saints, So

741
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: there's two of your top three free agents along with

742
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins right off the bat. DeMarcus Lawrence will get

743
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: I believe we'll get the franchise tall, so you're left

744
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: with like average to blow average starters is what you're

745
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: looking at for free? How did oh well that? I

746
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: think there's some above average start right? Who are some

747
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: above average starters that everyone should be aware of? Sheldon Richardson,

748
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Speaker 1: Allan Robinson, ziggy On ziggy On to Jarvis Landry, Sammy

749
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Speaker 1: Watkins to market. I mean, I think there's there's a

750
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: solid ten to fifty five above average start. Richardson was

751
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: a disappointment. He was but was basically given away by

752
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the Jet I think he's an above average started Malcolm

753
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: Butler is an interesting guy. But you famously don't care

754
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: about character risks at all. You famously you've said you

755
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: you can't predict them. You have no idea that we actually,

756
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: in fairness, my my team undefeated. I was gonna say no,

757
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: my free agent picks never long, didn't we That might

758
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: not be true, but we have toyed with I thought

759
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: before in the show doing like Greg's all bad guy team,

760
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: like good talents, bad people, um Nate Solder, Justin Pugh.

761
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys out there that I would say

762
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: our average too above average star a little Dion Lewis,

763
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the guy that we've been pumping up as a deeper

764
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: star in the last I think there's a decent crop.

765
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Speaker 1: Because of Cousins. It's as good a class, I would

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Speaker 1: say as last year overall, because just Cousins alone makes

767
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: it unique. We haven't seen a guy uh an average

768
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Speaker 1: starting near above average starting quarterback get a free agency

769
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Speaker 1: since Peyton Many. I think even that, yeah, even that

770
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Speaker 1: was I think what makes him. It's fascinating to have

771
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Speaker 1: an actual guy on the right side of the Dalton

772
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Speaker 1: scale hit free agency like Cousins and then to see

773
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Speaker 1: what happens once Cousins does sign hopefully with my Jets,

774
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: but who knows? He could go in any number of places.

775
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Speaker 1: How that affects the market where if you're um a

776
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Speaker 1: team that wanted Cousins bad and you miss out, how

777
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Speaker 1: much are you gonna be willing to pay case Keenum

778
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Speaker 1: or like, what is his market? I think Cousins really

779
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Speaker 1: makes things kind of electrified on that front. Can we

780
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Speaker 1: address Dean Lewis real quick? You you brought him up?

781
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: Teams do this all the time. They overpay for guys

782
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Speaker 1: who are role players with the Patriots, and you can't

783
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Speaker 1: expect your team to use a guy to the maximum

784
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Speaker 1: like the Patriots did. This is an undersized running back

785
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: who has a major lee checkered injury history and and

786
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Speaker 1: no basically no example of him being durable. I don't

787
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Speaker 1: think you can count on Dan Lewis getting five million

788
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. I'm surprised to hear that because you

789
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Speaker 1: guys have been so high on him, right because he

790
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: plays a niche role for the Patriots. So he wasn't

791
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: a nice role this year, but it was one year.

792
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Speaker 1: Of course, it wasn't nict L. He didn't even start

793
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Speaker 1: until November. I mean he didn't. He ended up like

794
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Speaker 1: a five game streak and then the biggest games of

795
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: the year at the end of the year, they played

796
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: James White over him. I think Louis, similar to when

797
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead became a free agent, could be a really

798
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: good pick up for some team at the right price,

799
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: because running backs just don't cost that much in general.

800
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Speaker 1: If a team with a coaching staff is like let's

801
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: say the Vikings, who's who are losing Jerick McKinnon, or

802
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: the Saints if they had a need, but they don't

803
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: need a need. If you pair Dion Lewis in the

804
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: right system with the right coaching staff and it only

805
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: costs you five million dollars a year, I think that's

806
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: money really well spend. Not just draft somebody in the

807
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Speaker 1: third round, because you have this guy that you know

808
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: is good and you can use the also know he's

809
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna get injured by week four. I mean, Dion Lewis

810
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: is injured almost every year of his career. Didn't expect

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Speaker 1: such scientists heat today, but I've been a huge fan

812
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: of his. But he's basically the guy you don't overpay. Well, yeah,

813
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Speaker 1: it all depends on the ball player who gets injured.

814
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: But you don't have to overpay. To me, five million

815
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: dollars is way too much for for for a running

816
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: back and you just get Alvin Kamarow in the third round.

817
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't think so because he to me, that's a

818
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: great price if you're getting six hundred great snaps out

819
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Speaker 1: of Dion Lewis, and I think if you've got the

820
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: right plan in the right system around him, that's absolutely

821
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: worth it. It's a deal in late September. I mean,

822
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Speaker 1: this guy's injury history. You're just glossing over it like

823
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: it didn't not. No, that's fair, and there are a

824
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: lot of running I don't think it'll cost much because

825
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: there are a lot of running backs out there. Carlos

826
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Hyde is going to be a free agent, Levy on

827
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Bell probably will get tagged. Jerick McKinnon very similar to

828
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Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, I would say, And I think a really

829
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: interesting free agent Rex Burkhead is a free agent. Darren

830
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Sprowles if he still wants to play. My guy, Frank Gore. Uh,

831
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: it's always a position where it's not, you know, necessarily

832
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: too tough to to find someone. There's some interested in

833
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group. There's some guys that are gonna

834
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how much money they make.

835
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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson coming off in a c L. Sammy Watkins,

836
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: years of people trying to talk themselves into him as

837
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Speaker 1: a star. Will another team do it again? Uh? He's

838
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: still only what seven or twenty years old. He's been

839
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: in the league for like fifteen years ago when he

840
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: got in and uh yeah, I think he must be

841
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: turning twenty five during next season or something. There has

842
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: been plenty of speculation that the Rams could franchise him.

843
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Uh yeah. Jordan Matthews, I mean, who got

844
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: traded obviously from the Eagles of the Bills and had

845
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: a complete lost season injuries. Now he's a free agent.

846
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: Tarrell Prior, a guy that everyone, a lot of people

847
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: thought was a great by by the Redskins last year.

848
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: He washed out, So what does he get this year?

849
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: It's that's an interesting group in Danny Amendola Danny Playoff

850
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: Amen Dola is scheduled to hit the free agency market.

851
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: John Brown, Paul Richardson, guys who have flashed in the

852
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: past are pretty intriguing. I think looking at the overarching market,

853
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: there are more core, a few more quarterbacks than usual.

854
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: You throw Teddy, Sam Bradford, you know, cousins and and

855
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: with Breeze. I just I'm gonna rode out there that

856
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a ten percent chance there's some

857
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: drama there, just like I by the way I threw out,

858
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: just like that there was a small chance. Maybe this

859
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: McDaniels thing isn't as sure as everyone has been saying

860
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: it is until it's official. I just think there might

861
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: be just some drama with Breeze. I don't think he'll

862
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: go anywhere, but if you're looking at the fine drama,

863
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: some reports that he's not happy with the Saints and

864
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: there that there's actually a chance, even if it's it's

865
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: a passing storm, that that he'll leave or that he

866
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: he's not pleased. This is a guy who people forget

867
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: held out during their last uh contract negotiations, skipped O

868
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: t a. S skipped the off season last time he

869
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: was looking for a new contract, and I think it's

870
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: a really difficult contract to come up with. Brent Grimes

871
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: is hitting the open market. Greg a little nervous about

872
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: how his wife could relocate maybe the southern California or

873
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: something like that, and then you're in great danger. He's

874
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: kind of ageless. I mean, he's had some injuries, but

875
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: he looked pretty great. Loved guys. You bring me to

876
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: the point I was gonna make before. By the way,

877
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: some positions are very very thin. Both lines, I would say,

878
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: are thin, especially offensive line. But there are a lot

879
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks and receivers. So like the passing game, I

880
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: think if you're looking for a cornerback or you're looking

881
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, some names out there interesting. A

882
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: couple of interesting tight end names. Jimmy Graham. I believe

883
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: he's in pretty big time decline at this point. And

884
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: I know he's a good goal line receiver still, but

885
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how much money he could get on the

886
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: open market. I think he's connected to a team in

887
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: a report this week. Not much, is my guest, but yeah.

888
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And then Tyler Eiffort, like a Dion Lewis, a guy

889
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: that cannot stay healthy. But a couple of years ago

890
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: he was one of the best tight ends in football,

891
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: with a team maybe saying maybe we get that guy

892
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: and he stays healthy too much. I like this free

893
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: agency class. It's a little saucier than than I expected. Yeah,

894
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: the cornerback class could be really strong. The guy I

895
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: really like his Kyle Fuller, who had a great year

896
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: with the Bears, led the NFL and pass his defense

897
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: last year. They Malcolm Butler is going to be really

898
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: interesting seen cornerback. I think free agent to what kind

899
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: of value he has after everything that happened, the Patriots

900
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: do anything else to poison his value from now until

901
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: the start of free agency. David, Oh please, it is crazy. Uh,

902
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: it is crazy that his his I can remember I

903
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: was so sad to miss the week after the Super

904
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: Bowl podcast where Malcolm Butler was in the studio with

905
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: you guys, and think about the journey he's taken since

906
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: that moment as one of the great in my mind

907
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: stories in NFL history. It's certainly great super Bowl stories

908
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: in NFL history. So to this super Bowl, I mean,

909
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: you can't write this then? How did they pay him?

910
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: So the drama, it's the stuff of life. Can we

911
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: just take a big macro view there that he made

912
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: the arguably the biggest play in Patriots history and now

913
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: they are kicking him out the door and making them

914
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: look like some type of malcontent that ain't right. I

915
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know. He was only around the NFL podcast. He's

916
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: a nice guy. I don't know what happened. I don't

917
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: know what happened there. I do think it had a

918
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: little overplayed and I don't want to dive two into this,

919
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: but that like, Okay, put Malcolm Butler in there and suddenly, uh,

920
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: they'd be fine. He had as it was a big factor,

921
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: but there's no way to pick on I guess my

922
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: my thought would be more that that his absence has

923
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: helped to overshadow the complete collapse of the rest of

924
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the defense, which I don't think his absence excuses that.

925
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: It's like Donta High Tower, who is a much in

926
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: my mind more integral player to the team, leaves the team.

927
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Uh during the season. It's like you don't even notice

928
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the difference for the rest of the season. Butler, who

929
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: did not have a great year, had okay year certainly

930
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: is worst years. Yeah, certainly is worst year as a starter,

931
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: but still a very solid starter. I'm just saying it

932
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of overshadowed, like, hey, your defense got absolutely destroyed. Uh,

933
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: because this storyline got all the attentions like nice way

934
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: of saying that they got thoroughly out coached in the

935
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Sure, um, I heard you having this conversation downstairs.

936
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I stayed out of it. But I think if one

937
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: guy in that secondary makes a play, they could have

938
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Sure it might have made it

939
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: made already proven he's a guy that can make I'll

940
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: play when the stakes are hotest, and you took him

941
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: out of lot. Absolutely. I just mean it's kind of

942
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: one thing to focus on when there was there were

943
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things that they did wrong and that

944
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: that went wrong. Maybe if they came up with a

945
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: answer yeah, no, I get it, or answered the question

946
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: of why Malcolm Butler didn't play that that people could stomach.

947
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't heard an answer yet that I

948
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: can stomach. It's also why not just tell the truth.

949
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: It's also funny to me, like, I know this is

950
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: not how things work, but you know, crazier things have

951
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: happened in football. Look at Josh McDaniel situation. Yeah, the Lions.

952
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: They're sitting there watching the game and they're like, wait,

953
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: so we're bringing in that Patricia. He was a defensive

954
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: wizard and he's just he's giving up like five yards

955
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: of total offense in the Super Bowl. I'm down on

956
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: that one. First of all, why would you take one

957
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: game over like nineteen games just because it's the most

958
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: recent and the most important. We have more data than that.

959
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Second of all, who has less talent on their front seven?

960
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: In the NFL and the New England Patriots in February

961
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: of two thousand and eighteen, how many names can you

962
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: even name on their front seven? There are defensive metrics

963
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: that want me to go through a fan is good

964
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: other than the flowers really good? You get a dealing

965
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: with a bunch of special teamers because you benched, because

966
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: you benched your best quarter cornerback, You've got problems in

967
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: their whole defense was filled with problems in the game,

968
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: and advanced metrics said that the Patriots never had a

969
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: good defense this season. I'm just saying, like, I'm not

970
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: saying that the line should have had second thoughts. I'm

971
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: just saying, if you are in the front office and

972
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: you think it's like, okay, he's he'll be fine, He'll

973
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: be fine. And this is the second straight year the

974
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Patriots have a lot of key free agents, I would

975
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: say in abnormal amount, and I think it hurt them

976
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: last year. I don't think they were as talented team

977
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: in the end, and now they have Solder who's going

978
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: to be I think is the top tackle in free

979
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: agency by a decent amount, which it really doesn't speak

980
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: well for the big tackle class. I mean, he could

981
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: be an eighteen million dollar a year type player because

982
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: in the top five Adrian Waddle and Cameron Fleming are

983
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: also their three Patriots probably are the in the top

984
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: five tackle right so they're also three of their tackles

985
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: are available. You're loving this. Dan Butler's out there, Burkehead

986
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: and Lewis are out there, so you're kind of, you know,

987
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: bunching up different positions and got a lot of players

988
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: ailable to get to deal with the time of transition.

989
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I think we were at the funeral on Sunday, That's

990
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Funeral please. Hey. Geno Smith also is

991
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: on the market. Greg You've been found to the table

992
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: for many years because he had that great four game

993
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: stretch about six years ago. It hasn't really played since

994
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: then except for a pretty good performance against the Raiders.

995
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: He's still in pretty good and have him on the

996
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: cheap Watch million. A couple of throws in that fourth guard.

997
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch him like celebrating on the sideline as

998
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: the other quarterback doesn't play well. Yeah, he's he's pretty

999
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: low on that free agent quarterback list. But you know, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford,

1000
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: you got McCown. Is Cutler for sure retiring. We haven't

1001
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: found out about that. I don't know if it really

1002
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: to tell him whether he's retiring or probably. So there

1003
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: you go. There's a nice teaser. Nice tease, guys. You

1004
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: guys are real teases. We even made an appearance in

1005
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: the lab. Uh yeah, a couple of trips down to

1006
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the lab. I hung out in the kitchen. Even though

1007
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: I am against wishes. I was given a key, I

1008
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: can go down to the lab. But I just want

1009
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: to make it clear that I have yet to go

1010
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: down to the lab. I just have acts. Dan's gonna

1011
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: go home tonight, study the Trent Murphy tape from the

1012
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen season, come back with a really hot

1013
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: take about his ranking among the edge defenders that are ailbing.

1014
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's any Trent Murphy tape. And that's

1015
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: why I'm not going to go down. I hang out

1016
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: in the bad Guy to bring off. H Bryant got

1017
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: you a key. Thank you, des, I really appreciate it.

1018
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: He might end up on the free agent market. Yeah,

1019
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: that might be something we'll we'll talk about later here

1020
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: for our special. We don't have to workshop it here.

1021
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: But that's a fun category too, all right, but that's

1022
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: coming up later this week. Next time you hear from

1023
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: us will be Wednesday, so hopefully markably back and UH

1024
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: and Colleen will be rejoining us. She made it back

1025
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia a live so a lot of fun stuff

1026
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: coming up this week. Check to get the go check

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Speaker 1: out the go fund go fund me dot com. I

1028
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Speaker 1: mean I picked this handsome picture of west at the

1029
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl shot nice suit, nice chrome dome, go fund

1030
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Speaker 1: me dot com slash Chris Westling takes out the Big

1031
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Speaker 1: Sea a little bit wordy by didn't I didn't. It

1032
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the I didn't know. I didn't know

1033
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: it would have been the whole thing. But still the

1034
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Speaker 1: cause is very important. So please if you can't help out,

1035
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Speaker 1: please do and uh again. End of the week our

1036
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: top ten calls. Let's go stand hands as signing off

1037
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: for the Mailman, the old Boss Lindsay Bolton behind the

1038
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: Glass Gregg is gonna do extra reading. It's given the chance.

1039
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Speaker 1: Big takeaway from the show, So Wednesday reading