1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: A message to Dan Levintard. I want to be with 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: him for a second. Our money better be fucking on time, Dan, 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: better be on fucking time. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back, unplugged, our weekly look around. What's going on, 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: what's going on out there in sports, what's going out 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: there in the world. Jack just got back from Oak 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Hill Hall of Fame jersey retirement. Had some of the 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: other homies up there. I got Steve Blake, Brandon Jennings, 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Quinn Cook, Jeff McGinnis to name a few. Coach Steve Smith, 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: how was it. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Shout out Kat too as well. Kat was a part 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: of that class. He just didn't graduate from ok Hill, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: but he still is in the Hall of Fame. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: It's just honor, man. That's something I wanted, you know. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: What I mean. I was glad we was able to 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: deal in. I was able to come down there and 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: grab some footage and document this whole thing. It was 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 3: special to be back because my first time being back 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: since I graduate, so a lot of memories, great times. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: Get the time to see coach and his wife and 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: their family, and getting my jersey retired there or something 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: I really wanted. 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: So now I feel a peace with basketball. I love it. 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Congratulations. What about the white guy that gave you guys 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: moonshine and mushroom weed. A little bit about that experience. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Shout out to the homie chad Man. We're gonna get back. Well, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna get back out there and rocket Chad. He's 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: he's a fishing guy, trout and big mouth bass. He 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: does a fishing guy and he has a big old 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: house and a lot of land on top of the 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: hill where he wrints his house. I was the Airbnb 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: and he does a lot of great things. But we 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: met him and had a couple of drinks with him. 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: He was a big fan. Been watching OK for a 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: while and he said he meet us when we get done, 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: you know, come back. 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: He has some shrooms for us and some moonshine and 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: some weed. So I'm like cool, you know, I like 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: the little moonshine from the country. You know. 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: His moonshine was nay one, you know, you know, I 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 3: was the smoke of course, the smoke weed. 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: I dabbled in the shrooms and the gummy shrooms. But 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: it kind of he this was different. Matt. 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: When he went out when he was handing, he handed 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: us the moonshine bam, and I'm thinking, okay, he's gonna 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: do two more. Handed off, He's going to hand off 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: the weed. Didn't hand off the shrooms, well, I would, sir. 48 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: He handed off one bag and he had the stems 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: of the weed. I mean, if the shrooms grown in 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: the weed said you gotta smoke them, no, cirt, no, sir, scared. 51 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: No, I wasn't scared. I wasn't doing it. 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: I hit it one time just to see where it 53 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: takes me. I wouldn't smoke ale a whole joint, but 54 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: I hit it one time to see where it takes me. 55 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know that you can do 56 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: that or they go together like that. 57 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: I never heard. I never heard of it either. 58 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: It can't be no worse than the uh than the 59 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: butt naked you did that one time? 60 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So if so, 61 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: if if if the mushrooms steming weed, I ain't gonna 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: have me tripping like the shrom. 63 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 4: Had me, then I might try. 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: Nah, I think you'll be all right, But you said 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: you ain't been been the same since he still had 66 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: that little that that nervous twitch. Anyway, you guys can 67 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: check out Jack's journey coming out of all the smoke 68 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: productions YouTube, So it's show some little behind it t 69 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: s of that also, Jack, Urban legend or not rumor 70 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: has it? Urban legend has it that you're the only 71 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: player in Oak Hill history who had on the road 72 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: to room with the coach. 73 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, man, I'm the only player. You know. 74 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: That's cool because you know, I wait, Bro, I was 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: writing letters home. 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: I felt like I was in jail, so I was 77 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: trying to escape any chance I got. 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: Bro. 79 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went on the road, man, Coach Price had 80 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: to make sure he put his bed. 81 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: In front of the door and all that. Bro, I 82 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: was a nuisance. 83 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: Oh that's funny, funny. You missed, we missed. We missed 84 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: you out here in l A at the How was 85 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: your weekend? 86 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Man? 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: Man, we had a great We had a great. 88 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Hey, I couldn't be there, broreak house. Yeah, we got 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: it in the crew was there. We ate good, we 90 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: smoked good. We took some gummies. They weren't intertwined, but 91 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: I had a really good time. No, they wasn't intertwined. 92 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: We wasn't playing with that. We had a good time, man, 93 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: and ended up eating some good dinner. Everyone had good time. 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Johnny was there. We got it in so we had 95 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,279 Speaker 2: a good time. Show Love DJ. 96 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: Quick, DJ Quick. 97 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: DJ Quick. So it was another dude and I forgot 98 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: his name. I feel bad, but DJ Quick came because 99 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: I just wanted Quick to come chill. So he you know, 100 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: he's there, and he starts kind of like, so, m B, 101 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: you think I get on, you think I can DJ, 102 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: I'm like, ship, you want to DJ? I wanted you 103 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: to just come cheers like now, hell no, I want 104 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: to get on the thing. So he gets something. We're 105 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: about to set up, and the motherfucker spills his drink 106 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: on the mixer and fries it. 107 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 108 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: So he ended up. 109 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: We ended up trying to get we got something else 110 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: to replace, and he did one live song, uh, and 111 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: then a couple couple of songs. 112 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: And then he was chilling. But that ship, we had 113 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 5: a good time. 114 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: I'll be there for the big day. I ain't gonna 115 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: miss that one. 116 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah no, that was just to tune up man. 117 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Big shout out to our brothers, Pat McAfee man who 118 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: obviously came through and blessed us for All Star and Indy. 119 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: You know you've known him for a while. 120 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: I've been a fait him for a while, but his 121 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: audience was heavily involved. He's got a colt following and 122 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: I love it. You know, a lot of they were 123 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: in the comments and he was in the comments and 124 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: just great feedback with our fans. So hey man, shout 125 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: out his fans because hopefully some of them are now 126 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: are fans. 127 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's something nice masters to me and appreciate that. 128 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: What happens on the show, you say, and John himself 129 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 3: probably one of the best interviews he had, so yeah. 130 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 5: Well that worked out. 131 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: Moving on, Phil Jackson, the zen Master used to have 132 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: a saying about the forty twenty role, and we're about 133 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: the sixty game mark of the season and to be 134 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: considered a true contender, he felt like you had to 135 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: have forty wins before you had twenty losses. And to 136 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: back that up, the last twenty seven out of thirty 137 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: NBA champions have lived up to that. Only three haven't, 138 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: the Pistons. So the Pistons, the Heat, and the Bucks. 139 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: Right now, currently there's four teams that fit that build, Denver, Boston, OKC, 140 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: and Minnesota. Jack thoughts on the forty twenty and do 141 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: you see any of those four teams winning it, and 142 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: is anyone left off who's not in the forty twenty. 143 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the proof's in the put. He got a point. 144 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean, look at those teams. Denver definitely have a 145 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: chance to winning. Boston Show. Okay, see is the best 146 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: team in the West right now, min is the second 147 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: to third. So yeah, I mean, all those teams definitely 148 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: have a great chance. So it makes a lot of 149 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: sense with Bill Jackson talking about if I had to 150 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: throw one more team in that, Matt, for me, I 151 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: think it would be. 152 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: I think it would be the Lakers. 153 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: M dark horse. 154 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: Right now. 155 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: I think when I ain't mad at that, I feel 156 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: like they're built for the playoffs. I feel like they're 157 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: built for the past. I'd probably throw the Clippers in 158 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: that mix. Although they're five and five in their last 159 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: ten they struggled a little bit, but they've been the 160 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: hottest team in basketball since that that hardened trade, and 161 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: then possibly me and Milwaukee in the Eastern Conference that 162 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: they can kind of find their rhythm, get hot, and 163 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: dot can help get them to the Promised Land. But yeah, 164 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm definitely not mad at that. You know, I picked 165 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: the Clippers don't win it all, but Boston's looking tough. 166 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: And then you can't rule out you got to beat 167 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: the champs to become the champs. So Demmer's right in 168 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: that mix. Will be interesting to see what okay See 169 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: in Minnesota could do. They're both young teams, so to me, 170 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: they still got to prove it. But definitely having great 171 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: season so far. There was an incident jack Jalen Green 172 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: and Bradley Beal and I was getting tagged all weekend. 173 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know what the fuck was going on. And 174 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: it was you know, Bradley Beal faked the ball in 175 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Jalen Green's face, but he actually like hit him a 176 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: little bit with the ball like it was a love tap. Yeah, yeah, 177 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: it was a love tap. But thoughts thoughts of just 178 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: those two going back. You know, obviously Jayden Green the 179 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: young hungry dog, Bradley Bell is a proven killer in 180 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: this league. 181 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: Thoughts about that, and so you get a chance to 182 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: see it. 183 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: It was cute. I mean it was cute. I knew 184 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: what was gonna be no hands thrown, so yeah, it 185 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: was cute. 186 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: It it was. 187 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't as intense as your you and Kobe, I know, 188 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: I told him. 189 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: I would have liked that could have cleared the ben. 190 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: If I would have really hit him that sh it 191 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: would have probably broke his nose because I was I 192 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: put that ship hard. But I like the competitiveness. Again, 193 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Jaalen Green. I think he's super talented. Obviously, 194 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: Bradley Bill has been injured, but he's proven what he 195 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: what he means to this game, what he could do. 196 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: But I just liked the back and forth because there's 197 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: there's so much buddy ball out there these days. 198 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: I like him. 199 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of fight between the guys. Brian 200 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: went Horse, someone who actually liked I used to work 201 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: with over at ESPN. I wasn't a fan of what 202 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: he said, but what he says, if AI were to 203 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: play today, he'd be heavily criticized. He played a lot 204 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: of minutes and chucked up a lot of shots that 205 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: would not fly the day. Crazy statement, But I'm gonna 206 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: let you have that one first. 207 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: Well, Brian, I mean, have fun, because the days of 208 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: people looking at you and listening to you talk about sports, 209 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: it really ain't adding up, okay talking about AI be 210 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: heavily criticized while you're just sitting there heavily. 211 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 4: Look, bro, we're not doing that, okay, Brian. 212 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, I like Wendy, I just didn't like 213 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: this comment, you know. 214 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: And the first time he said some off the wall 215 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: lass shit like he got fifteen to twenty rebounds a game. 216 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean t Mac, Vince, Paul, Pierce, Gilbert, 217 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: all these guys you know, shot low forties back then. 218 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: He was talking about the shooting percentage. I also think 219 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: the defense was a little bit more physical. 220 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Back then. But I mean, I think if Ai played today, 221 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: he would be probably arguably, you know, up there with 222 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: Lebron is one of the biggest players in the world 223 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: because his ability to cross over on and off the court, 224 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: what he meant, the culture, who he is, what he 225 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: stands on. So definitely didn't agree with that, but hey, 226 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion. Jack Boxing Canelo Benavidez. 227 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Canelo has turned down a ninety two to eight split, 228 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: which would mean Canelo would got ninety two percent of 229 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: the purse. Benavidez would have only got eight, and Canelo 230 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: denies that is he running jack. 231 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, that's basically how it looks to 232 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: everybody like you gotta you gotta give Canelo's credit. He's 233 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: been fighting for a long time. He's damning fight everybody 234 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: definitely wanted to, you know what I'm saying. So definitely 235 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: one of the great he and he has the right 236 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: to choose who we want to fight and direct his crib, 237 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: to direct his career the way he wants to and 238 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: fight he wants right, and he wants to fight a 239 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: Meskan fighter because he says he wants to respect, respect 240 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: Messican fighters and bring some of that revenue to Mexico. 241 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: And all that, and we all get all that. 242 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: But Bena Videz is probably the biggest Mexican fighter next 243 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: to Canelo, So why wouldn't you fight him? So to 244 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: the fans, Matt to the fans when Bena Videz is, 245 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: We're willing to take five million from five millions your 246 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: fifty five million just to fight you and beat you, 247 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: because he says that he know the money will come after. 248 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: To the fans, yeah, he's running from him. But to 249 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: a person like me, who I love being to Videz, 250 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: I'm good friends with his pops. 251 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 4: I want to see him fight Canelo. But if Canelo 252 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: don't fight him. 253 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't lose no respect for Canelo because he had 254 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: he has earned the right to call his own shots. 255 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not mad at that. He's been in the 256 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: game for a long time. But you know, we all 257 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: always want to see these big these big fights. But 258 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: to turn down a ninety two eight, I don't know 259 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: if there was I mean, what ninety five to five? 260 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: I mean shit, But I mean what else is there? 261 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: Definitely not about the money. I don't think for Canelo either. 262 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: He got so much money. So we'll see if that 263 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: eventually happens. Man, I wanted to send out, you know, 264 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: thoughts and prayers or Ryan Garcia. He just released a 265 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: video as we were coming on air talking about it. 266 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: He's okay, but there's some shit going on where he's 267 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: locked out of his phone, locked out of his IG, 268 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: his bank account, people, his credit cards are frozen. So 269 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: somebody's over here fucking with him. But Jack, I don't 270 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: know if any of this, You know, it's hard to say. 271 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: Is this is this a play to bring attention to 272 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: the fight? Is it is it? Is it funny business? 273 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: Is it is it real? 274 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: Like we don't know. 275 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: Again, we don't want to make any accusations because all 276 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: this is alleged. But uh, you know, what are your 277 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: thoughts when you hear obviously he's supposed to be fighting 278 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: Hainy soon. Thoughts on this situation with Ryan Garcia. 279 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: To me, I've met Ryan, He's a good you know, 280 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: We've got a chance to interview him and spend some 281 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: time when Ryan's a good kid man, and it's going 282 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: to be a superstar and the mega star you know. 283 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: From from from uh to go on for a long time. 284 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: I think Ryan is gonna have two or three more 285 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: fights and become a superstar as far as acting or 286 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: something like that on TV. 287 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna fight for too long. 288 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: But I actually think he's more scared of scared of 289 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: this fight than he was with Tank. But it's simple 290 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: fact that yeah, yeah, you know you're going to You're 291 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: going into a situation with Tank with you the bigger fighter, 292 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: and as you if you know anything about boxing, the 293 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: way he came out, he came out confident. He really 294 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: felt like he was gonna be Tank. You know what 295 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, because he was the bigger fighter. You're not 296 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: the bigger fighter no more. And you and you know, 297 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: what Devin Handy and you know how good Devin Handy 298 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: has gotten. And I think, I honestly think everything that's 299 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: filing down that's happening right now with him is because 300 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: he's worried about this fight. He's I think he's scared 301 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: of Devin Haney. I don't think. I don't think all 302 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: this stuff is coming from outside nothing. Matt, he know, 303 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: he know he didn't sign the contract to fight somebody, 304 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: and he canna get his ass with Ooh. 305 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: I mean the pops has been going at it too. 306 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: I guess uh Garcia's pop says something out of pocket 307 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: of Haines's dad. I guess Haydes's dad was just on 308 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: it is what it is with Cam and Mace. Gotta 309 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: make sure we check that out. But yeah, it's gonna 310 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: be a good fight. Man, It's definitely gonna be a 311 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: good fight. I mean, it could be the Floyd Floyd 312 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: Mayweather Jake Paul playbook, you know where you're just stirring up, 313 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: you know, some ship before the fight to get more eyeballs. 314 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: But uh, I agree this should look real ry. 315 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan well Man with definitely saying prayers out to him. Man, 316 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: hope see he's able to get through this and and 317 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: and lock back in on on the fight. 318 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely rooting for him. 319 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: All right, now, Jack, we want to welcome one of 320 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: our brethren from the Metal Lark Family, former ESPN analyst 321 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: Pablo Tory. Thank you for taking time. Who's the host 322 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: of Pablo Tory finds out? Also I heard I don't 323 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: know if it's it's true or not, but you're a 324 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: cannabis consumer and you enjoy partaking in cannabis at times. 325 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: I have the argument, guys, thank you for having me. 326 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: I have the argument that I'm ready to make that 327 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: New York is now the most weed friendly state in 328 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the Union. 329 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: And I lived at experiment every day. 330 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking we're gonna have to battle this. 331 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm taking walks down the streets smoking joints and cali 332 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: and they're not saying nothing. 333 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 4: I don't know. 334 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: Let me, I'm gonna both. And it's been legal. We've 335 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 3: been smoking in restaurants since then. So I don't know 336 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: what y'all talk about. 337 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: I don't know in a restaurant actually, but was like. 338 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 6: An episode of my show that I need, I need 339 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: to litigate for real. Yeah, all I know is that bodega's. 340 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, all I know is that we got bodega's 341 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: here that sell weed and growing up in the city. 342 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: This feels like literally a dream journal entry that I 343 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: had once like one day, one day this would be 344 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: the case and now and now it's real. So until 345 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: until all three of us get arrested for various things 346 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that we've just said and implied, we can continue the debate. 347 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. 348 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Well, recently, uh, you know, you shoot a show 349 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: about four times a week where you go down rabbit 350 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: holes and and and find out interesting things and report. 351 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: I interested think one thing that came to our team's 352 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: attention was a former scorekeeper from the Vancouver Grizzlies who 353 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: admits they were juicing the stats in the nineties. Talk 354 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: to us about that interview, what you took away from 355 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: it and was it really that? Was it the norm 356 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: back then? 357 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 358 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just one of the craziest stories I've 359 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: ever worked on. And so I got a shout out 360 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Tom Haberstrow, who's the correspondent we had on this piece. 361 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: Because Tom did the interviews, did the data analysis, and 362 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I had the reaction that I think a normal person 363 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: would have, which is I cannot fucking believe that this 364 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: went on like this. And so the story is about 365 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: a guy who posted on a message board back in 366 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: now years and years ago that he was juicing stats. 367 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Remember that there's a famous game. He worked for the 368 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Vancouver Grizzlies as a scorekeeper, but he was a Laker fan. 369 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys remember the Nick 370 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: van Exel twenty three assist game from back in the day. 371 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: So van XL had twenty three assists and this guy 372 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: posted on a message board anonymously. His name was Alex 373 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: from then that was his user name. He said, I'm 374 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: the guy responsible Van Xell did not actually have twenty 375 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: three assists. I'm the guy who boosted the stats. I 376 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: invented many of those assists. And so this became a 377 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: story on the internet at that point. And what Tom 378 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: and I did was go and figure out, like who 379 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: Alex from the Navy actually was and what his whole 380 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: deal in reality was. And it turns out that Alex 381 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: from the Navy was a real person. He was a 382 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: real guy. His name was Alex Rucker, we revealed in 383 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: the episode. And if the name Alex Rucker rings any 384 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: sort of a bell. It's because this man went from 385 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: scorekeeper to the actual Navy but then he went on 386 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: to become the executive vice president of basketball operations of 387 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia seventy six ers under Brian Colangelo. Wow, and 388 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: so that guy is the same guy. I lead our 389 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: discussion with that because we he confesses to what you 390 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: asked about, Matt was how how prevalent was this? He 391 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: says it happened everywhere in the nineties because he was 392 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old dude who was given the power 393 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: to basically track NBA history. So I'm curious if this 394 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: is surprising to you guys that one guy had this 395 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: kind of a power in the first place. 396 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: I don't, and I think I'll take this first. It 397 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 5: doesn't surprise me. 398 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the refereeing situation where they 399 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: only try to say it was one person, but you 400 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: know a lot of guys that played in the league 401 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: would would like to say that's some bullshit. And then 402 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: you look at this and it makes sense. I mean, 403 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: that didn't makes sense, but I understand it. I mean, 404 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: it reminds me of when my high school coach used 405 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: to give me five dollars and let me do my 406 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: stats in high school. You know, I'd watched the film 407 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: and I'd had three or four rebounds here, a couple 408 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: of assists here, a block or two here, and it's 409 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: just like I got the five dollars for lunch and 410 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: I was cool. So this is crazy to hear, and 411 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: if it is true, or it is true, I wonder, 412 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: like who benefited the most? You know, obviously I heard 413 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: I saw something. I didn't get see the whole interview, 414 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: but it was obviously you know, this is entertainment and 415 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: they want to start to be stars, and that one 416 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: nine assists or nine rebound looks a lot better if 417 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: it says tim, you know what I mean, especially for 418 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: the particular stars. So I just wonder, as a fan 419 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: of the game in the nineties and someone who went 420 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, like who benefited the most 421 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: from those you know, from juicing the stats what they say? 422 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it. 423 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 3: I believe It's there's so much politics in the game 424 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: and so much bullshit in the game. 425 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. 426 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised there was boos and stats, and was 427 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: surprised they wouldn't giving people stats. Shit, I'm not surprised 428 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: to anything from that. You tell me about the league today, 429 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: because I tell you, as time goes on, you're gonna 430 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: be hearing more and more in bullshit, just like you 431 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: heard about the shit about the league trying to downplay 432 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: the Big Three. 433 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: So you're gonna continue to hear more and more shit. 434 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: Trust me. 435 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, Like I wasn't a guy 436 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: who smelled bullshit where whenever I came around the game, right, 437 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Like you guys have an internal perspective of cynicism because 438 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: you guys have seen some. 439 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 6: Things I felt. I just feel naive. 440 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Because what this guy was saying was he got trained 441 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: to be a scorekeeper. He went to this big training 442 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: that the NBA held, and the examples he was taught 443 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: as to, like what's an assist? Right, so we're really 444 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: talking about here are number statistics that are up for 445 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: human interpretation. So that means assists, that means blocks, that 446 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: means steals, and so let's just talk about those numbers. 447 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 6: And so with the assists, what he was saying to 448 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: Tom was. 449 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: He was shown a video of John Stockton and it 450 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: was one of those plays where like the assist is 451 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: made quote unquote, but it's like far more time passing 452 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: between the assist that they want the scorekeepers to give 453 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: out and the actual basket. And the explanation told to 454 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: them was, this is John Stockton, this is a star, 455 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: like it's entertainment, Like we need to get our stars 456 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: to be valued and treated as such. And so what 457 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Matcha said about the round numbers is one hundred percent 458 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: apparently part of the thinking here that John Stockton is 459 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: a guy who's famous for assists. We got to give 460 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: John Stockton to Carl Malone that assist, even though there 461 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: were a couple dribb and a couple more seconds passing 462 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: in between, which is just wild to me. 463 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: Mm hmmmmmm. That's definitely interesting. 464 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: And and you like, like Jack said, to be able 465 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: to pull the sheet down and and kind of see 466 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: the inner workings. 467 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: I think it's all mafia. 468 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: Well okay, well listen, listen. 469 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I cannot confirm or deny the family the familiar part 470 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: of this, but I'll answer your question about who benefited 471 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: the most, right, and so think about it through this lens. 472 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: So this guy comes to us and he says, okay, 473 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: I did it. I'm a Vancouver Grizzlies stack keeper and 474 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the So there are two groups of people that I 475 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: think benefited the most. One group was, of course, the 476 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: Vancouver Grizzlies, and so shred Raheem had his stats boosted. 477 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, all you go down the list and it's well, 478 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I think I think it's that era. But let me 479 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: let me let me give you the thinking. Right, this 480 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: is an expansion team. The Grizzlies were just founded. And 481 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: so even he said, even when he gave Van Excel 482 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the twenty three assists and this is the opposing player, 483 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: what he was told by his bosses within the Grizzlies 484 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: was great job. That makes it more likely that we're 485 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna be on Sports Center. 486 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 6: Right. 487 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: So the team, the logo, the very basic fact that 488 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: these Grizzlies existed. They just wanted any kind of exposure 489 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: because an expansion team needed to advertise itself. And so 490 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: that's the level of thirst that people had in the 491 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: nineties for just getting any sort of television attention, which 492 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: again I don't know when you guys played in Canada, 493 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: when you were playing the Grizzlies of the Raptors, if 494 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: you noticed anything fishy, But you go to the stats 495 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: and the Raptors another expansion team huge enormous discrepancy between 496 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: home and road splits when it came to the when 497 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: it came to those stats being interpreted, Canada was one 498 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: of the big beneficiaries of the stat inflation of the nineties. 499 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: Just the whole country, the whole country. 500 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: The exchange rate was wh Yeah. 501 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: Another one that you just did something recently. Uh, you 502 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: gave your brutally honest review of athletes and alcohol. 503 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 504 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: You know, Jack and I and our team are about 505 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: to drop a mescal soon, so we were kind of 506 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: interesting to hear your your breakdown and your reasons why. 507 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: But you you know, just some of the athletes you 508 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: reviewed were Steph's bourbon, Harden's wine, Lebron's tequila, MJ's tequila. 509 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: Take us into that and what you found. 510 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I have questions for you too about this, because 511 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to disclose when I taste test your 512 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: mezcal that I'm compromised by being in am glad. 513 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 6: Of getting this out of the way. 514 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, the rest of the world is always 515 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: compromised somewhere another our favor. 516 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 6: We'll we'll go with it for real, for real, for real. 517 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: But it's funny, So Okay, So I'll center on on 518 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: on on Michael Jordan here because I can bridge the 519 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: two episodes that we're describing. So one episode is about 520 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: stat inflation, the other one is about uh Me and 521 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: Katie No and in an alcohol expert named Jason Wilson 522 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: just reviewing, actually are these athlete alcohols any good? 523 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: Right? 524 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: And I would say that the biggest beneficiary actually of 525 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: both stat inflation and alcohol review inflation is Michael Jeffrey Jordan. 526 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna connect these two dots, right, So, Michael Jordan, 527 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: you look at his DePoy defensive player of the Year 528 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: stat from eighty seven eighty eight, enormous, enormous home road 529 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: discrepancy hit one hundred and sixty five steals at home 530 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: eighty four blocks. Okay, away ninety four steals forty seven blocks. 531 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: So just a crazy discrepancy in terms of just Michael 532 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Jordan's defensive stats from the year that he is now 533 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: hailed as like best defensive player of the year. Lebron 534 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: could never because he doesn't have a defensive Player of 535 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: the Year award. Michael Jordan benefited in our analysis from 536 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: the home cooking So just crazy. How does that make 537 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: you guys feel before I get to then getting to 538 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: his tequila, because that one was a big bob from here. 539 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, like I said, it's dope 540 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: that you guys, you know, were able to bring that 541 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: that that inflation of life. But I just kind of 542 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: always felt like it. You know, I would see stuff 543 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: and obviously looking back now and thinking about this, I 544 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: mean I would see I'm just like, damn, I don't 545 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: recall all those you know, I don't call all that. 546 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: I don't call all these steals. I don't call that. 547 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: You know, he had that many blocks, you know what 548 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: I mean. 549 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: And you think about it because no matter what you said, 550 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: a lot, but ninety eight percent of the players look 551 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: at the stat sheet at halftime and after the game, 552 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So when you sometimes you 553 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: do see some weird shit on there, like oh okay, 554 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: so but like Jack said, I mean, it's still MJ. 555 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, the discrepancy, the numbers don't lie, The numbers 556 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: don't lie. 557 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's just very conspicuous. And I grew up, 558 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I should say, I grew up with Jordan Stan you know, 559 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm a child of the nineties, even though i' from 560 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: New York. 561 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 6: So I worshiped at as. 562 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: Altar, right, and so I'll take us to the tequila 563 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: now because. 564 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 6: I thought his shit would I'm sorry. 565 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, of Metal Lark, send your questions and you're 566 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: a mail to him. 567 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 6: I'm playing, that's right, I mean, I'll take it. 568 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm already at war with various members of the Jordan 569 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: family because of this Larsa Pippen Marcus Jordan episode we did, 570 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: which was not received. 571 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 6: Warmly by the estate. 572 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: But Yo, this tequila, man, it's like one hundred and 573 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: ten something dollars and it look I'm not I'm not 574 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: a professional alcoholic critic. 575 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 6: It just wasn't good. 576 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: It didn't It didn't taste like what I thought tequila 577 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: would taste like. It felt like it was trying to 578 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: be very smooth. It felt like it was trying to 579 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: be you know what. You can tell something's trying to 580 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: be expensive. 581 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 6: But it's like. 582 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Just it just it just feels it feels like synthetic 583 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: in that way doesn't feel I don't know, I want 584 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: to know how you guys said about trying to figure 585 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: out how to make a mescal. That feels like, you guys, 586 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: that's not trash, because I can tell you, at the 587 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: highest level of this alcohol athlete game, there's some ship 588 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: out there that I was stunned. 589 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: By, as far as good or bad, as. 590 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 6: Far as bad, as far as look, it's just. 591 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who are trying to 592 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: tell UH stories about and again I look, there there's 593 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: a mythology around athletes, which I think is of course 594 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: part of the branding, But then when it's applied to 595 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: the alcohol, it's just hard not to like laugh and 596 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: just be like, but is this any good? And so 597 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: for me, I was just disappointed that all of this 598 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: money did not result in better alcohol. 599 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: Not for so you didn't find any You didn't find 600 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: any that were solid or at least decent. 601 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 6: You know who's you know, this ship was good? So 602 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 6: Lebron's wasn't bad. 603 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Lebron's was pretty good, the Lobos tequila not bad. 604 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: I thought. 605 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: Among wines, CJ. McCollum did a great job. I think 606 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: he was actually the one who's I'm not a huge 607 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: wine guy, but in terms of like the consensus and 608 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: the reviews, I would say that that one deserves the 609 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: highest grade of all the things we tried. But how 610 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: how did you guys approach the idea of a mescal then, 611 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: because all of this stuff is is you know a. 612 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: Lot of people they just want to put somebody name 613 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: on it and trying to make money of it and 614 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: not really worry about how. 615 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: The actual product tasts. It's a big difference. 616 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: You know, some some you can you can come up 617 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 3: with some stuff and just put a big name on 618 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: it and it might sell. But then you got some 619 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: people that that's our game, that really care about the 620 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: product and that care that you're putting what you putting 621 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: their name on. So it's a big difference. So I 622 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: think we follow in the category we care what we 623 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: put our name on. 624 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 625 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it took us a while not to cut you off, 626 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: Jacket took us a while. We met down, and we 627 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: went down and met with some people in San Diego, 628 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: and actually we're taking a trip out to Mexico, I 629 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: think in April to kind of go see the the 630 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: the origin of you know, where all of our stuff 631 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: came from. But I'm a huge cannabis guy off the rip, 632 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So crossing over into alcohol, 633 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm a social kind of If I do drink, it's 634 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: a social cheers or but you know, nine times out 635 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: of ten, I'm smoking weeds, So our thing was all lead. 636 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: He still leaves smoky. 637 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Obviously the smoky part came with all the smoke. 638 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 639 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: But at the same time, when we started trying now 640 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: just like that, like too much smoke, I wasn't super 641 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: fan of like smoky, smoky smoky, So we took some 642 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: of the smoke out, and you know, we'll have to 643 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: let people decide, you know, what they think. I think, 644 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: you know, everyone has their opinions on it. But I 645 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: feel like our stuff is best because I wasn't a 646 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: huge you know, we we thought tequila, you know, do 647 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: we do dark and they said the specifically, yeah, the 648 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: fastest growing spirit is mescal at the time, you know 649 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: what I mean. So that's what kind of made us 650 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: jump in and deter from tequila and the other stuff. 651 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: But I feel like ours is and I'm like, again, 652 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: this is coming from someone who's not drinking his life. 653 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: I feel like ours is best when it's mixed like 654 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: with like fresh fresh juice. We have three or four 655 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: different flavors with the juice. Obviously we have the mescal. 656 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: But when it's mixed with like, you know, a little. 657 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: Bit of juice. 658 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's that ship go. So it'll be interestinct, 659 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: you know, Like I said, you have to be biased. Now, 660 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: you have to be biased now when you taste started. 661 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: You can't come on someone else's show like ship. 662 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: The most I was I was processing Matt. I was 663 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: processing you talking about how actually too smoky is a problem, 664 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: which is a jarring thing for me to hear from. 665 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: With the whiskey and ride that's it needs to be smoky, 666 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: but not with tequila. 667 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, tequila family. 668 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: And then I was processing Stack's face as he was 669 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: remembering mixing your mezcal with watermelon, and I was like this, man, is. 670 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 6: That is what sells your product? 671 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: Is right? 672 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: What you don't know is we have shows where we'll 673 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: talk about stuff and I'll just go off into my 674 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: ponder moments. Well, I just get to put myself into 675 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: exactly what we're talking about, not just living it fus second, 676 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: live in it for a second. 677 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: That's what that was. 678 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: How did you guys, Okay, wait, so as a as 679 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: a tag team on this project, how do you deal 680 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: with disagreements of taste? Because I imagine you guys are 681 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: not your ponder moments from you want. 682 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: To work with me, bob blah, because I'm going with 683 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: the flow type of guy. I don't complain about much. 684 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: The only thing I can play about the money being late. 685 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Everything else that got me. I got a million ideas. 686 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm rocking with him. I don't even have to know 687 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: what it is. I'm behind him. But when that money late, 688 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: you got to see me. 689 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I. 690 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 6: So soll levantard that. By the way, that's real, right, lebtard. 691 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 6: This fucking money is laid. 692 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: You gotta see stacking in behind him somewhere hiding as me, 693 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: but in front of me is stacked right. 694 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: No, I mean Jack, you know, Jack kind of trusted 695 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: the team, you know, me and a couple of other 696 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: people went out there and tasted and saw where it came. 697 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: From, and then and and and and and. 698 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: Tried different kinds and and actually learned about the orange 699 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: and cinnamon at the same time. Because have you ever 700 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: ever ever you had orange and cinnamon after a shot 701 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: of anything? 702 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: Oh man, no, get with it. Orange and cinnamon all right, 703 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: there it is. Yeah, we got our little labeling right here. 704 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: Check that out, bottle. 705 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me see it. 706 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 6: Anios as that doubles. 707 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: That's it right there, man, there it is so so 708 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: anyway we'll get you. I feel like you got so 709 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: this is this is what I learned. It's what I 710 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: found out in my alcohol reviewing. 711 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 6: Is at the field? Why it's wide open? 712 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Man, everyone's trying to do it, but like there isn't 713 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: actually a bunch that's really good, like Steph stuff is okay. 714 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 6: I guess it's. 715 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: Just I think, really what it is, it's what it's 716 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: lacking for. And you guys have this like coming out 717 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: of your pores now literally I think, Matt just to concept, 718 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: so I think, what's coming out of your pores? Authenticity 719 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: and just like, hey, this is how we use it. 720 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: This is what we're not, this is what we are, 721 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: and enjoy it like we would enjoy it as opposed 722 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: to the mic. Again, I don't know, maybe you guys 723 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: can put a photo of it at some point in 724 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: the edit on this, if there is an edit. But 725 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: like the Michael Jordan Sincoro bottle looks like a trophy 726 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: that you get winning like an All Star game event, 727 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: and it's just. 728 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 6: Like what is this? 729 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: And so it's promising the greatest tequila you've ever had? 730 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 6: From the greatest player who's ever lived, and what you 731 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 6: get is just like it let me down. 732 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: It was like finding out that his stats were inflated. 733 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: It was a little bit like that. To be perfectly honest. 734 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: With you, I think it's a fine line between quality 735 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 2: and not taking you too serious, because this is not 736 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: any really union. 737 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so listen the self seriousness which you guys 738 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: do not have about your shit, about your products, about 739 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: your brand and selves. 740 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 6: Like that's the thing. 741 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: It's really hard to I guess, look, enter a business 742 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: that you're not in in the case of alcohol, for 743 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: all these guys, it's not their thing, and so they 744 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: go into it like I'm gonna be the best. I'm 745 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: going to compete in this like it was and it's 746 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: just like that. You know, Michael Jordan has many ANI hosts, right, 747 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: many rings, but not not not in this field, not 748 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: in this middle. 749 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 5: Can't be good at everything. 750 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: And it's okay, Yeah, absolutely, he's got a lot of 751 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: win he's got a lot of wins. There's a lot 752 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: of blocks that he didn't necessarily earn, but also a 753 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of wins that he did. 754 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 6: I'm in so much trouble by the. 755 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Back to how do you how do you guys, you know, 756 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: figure out what story? Because I'm sure you get a 757 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: ton of stories. How do you guys figure out what 758 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: stories to actually, you know, go down the rabbit hole 759 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: on and and and bring my curiosity. 760 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: Man, Like, I'm a curious person. So I didn't play 761 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: sports at any high level in any way. Like, let's 762 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: be real about who I am, what I can and 763 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: cannot do. But what I am is a guy who 764 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: is super curious about the way the world works. And 765 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: so when someone as to me, that's right, if only, 766 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: if only I went. 767 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 6: To high school with Lebron James. 768 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: I love Brian, by the way, but Brian is a 769 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: biographer who also has other talents as a reporter, and 770 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: he's a great storyteller. 771 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 6: But I came into this I didn't. 772 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: Have a personal story like that, And so I'm just 773 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: the guy who tells stories and uses journalism to report them. 774 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: And so for me, what I want to do is 775 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: always like Tony Kornheiser taught me this, because I do 776 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: PTI sometimes and you know, the thing I want to 777 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: be is just smart and funny, you know, like make 778 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: people laugh and take yourself too seriously. Like so It's 779 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: just as simple as that. But my whole goal is, like, 780 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: if you listen to an episode, so I'll mention this, this, 781 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll go back to the Jordan well for a second 782 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: year because I referred to this right. So I did 783 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: a story about Marcus Jordan and Larsa Pippen. What do 784 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: you guys know about Marcus Jordan and Larsi Pippen when 785 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: I mentioned their names to you. 786 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 4: The day? And is Jordan's Dan Pippin's ex wife? Yep? 787 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: And so for me, it was this reality television relationship 788 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: and I wanted to find out, like, what's going on here? 789 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: Is this real? Is this love? What's going on? 790 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: And so I interviewed Marcus and Larsa together and we 791 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: had a conversation that was great, and they sat down 792 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: and we sort of put in the context of their lives. 793 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: And that was an example of this episode where I 794 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is ridiculous. This is like reality 795 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: television show trash on the one hand, but also two 796 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: real people who hadn't been like actually interviewed in this way. 797 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 6: Like what if I took them seriously? Was the question 798 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 6: I asked myself. And they were great and the only 799 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 6: problem was that in the New. 800 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: York Post afterwards there was a headline in which Larca 801 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Pippen called me miserable. And so outside of that, I'm 802 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: on good terms with these people called Yeah, yeah, I'm 803 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: in various. I should say I'm in various. You've you've 804 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: aligned yourself with a very dangerous person. It turns out. 805 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: You might have to have bodyguards. 806 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Uh? You asked me a 807 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: question that nothing to do my answer. You asked me 808 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: how my two story ideas. It turns out I two 809 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: story ideas in order to one day talk to two 810 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: guys who lead the league actually in beef and try 811 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: to outdo them by mentioning all the people. 812 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: Who your well. 813 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: Man, we appreciate you jumping giving us some of your 814 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: time today. Definitely looking forward to continuing to collab with 815 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: you guys and Dan and the whole meatalw Lark family 816 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: and continuing to drow, you know, grow our side. 817 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 5: And it's definitely a pleasure to be working with you. 818 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I got two things at the very end here. 819 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 6: Number one is four twenty a week. 820 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: I have ideas. I have ideas for us. Okay, just 821 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: the tease. The second thing is a message to Dan Levittard. 822 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: I want to beef with him for a second. Our 823 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: money better be fucking on time, Dan, you better be 824 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: on fucking time. 825 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 5: Have that signed by It's coming from you. 826 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: Sign big big five. Hey, that's Jack's guy now too. 827 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: Jacksonan gonna fly out to Miami spending time with them. 828 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 5: They've been. 829 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I am the officient of Dan Levantard's wedding. I married 830 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: him in Valerie. I was the priest at that wedding. 831 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: I love Dan, I love Dan, I love his love. 832 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that his money better be fucking 833 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: on top. 834 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 5: You could love a lot of ship and fuck up. 835 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 2: The one thing you can fuck up is the money 836 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: to fox all the other good things up. All right, 837 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: follow man, Thank you for your time today, and we'll 838 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: catch up with Well. That's a wrap. Thank you to 839 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: our guest Pablo Jack. Congratulations again on the Oak Hill stuff. 840 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: You can catch this on All the Smoke Productions YouTube 841 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: and the Draft Kings Network. We'll see y'all next week.