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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck, Chuckle,
Speaker 1: Luck Bryant, Poor Chuck. He was the little kid who
Speaker 1: um whose name could never be picked in that song?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was it? Everyone they did it thought they
Speaker 1: were just so clever because they were the first person
Speaker 1: that'd ever done that to me. And I was just
Speaker 1: like getting line jerk. Oh yeah, my name rhymes with
Speaker 1: bad words. Yeah, definitely does, so does Josh, though no
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Oh yeah, you're right, it's frette and easy.
Speaker 1: My parents gave it a lot of thought. They're like,
Speaker 1: what can they call our son Josh? Nothing? He got
Speaker 1: nothing on that one, So they just called me fatty instead,
Speaker 1: dough boy. How's it going good, Chuck? Yes, Um. We've
Speaker 1: got a a little bit of highway stretching out in
Speaker 1: front of us today. We on the open road sixty
Speaker 1: six man. Who Yeah, probably the most um iconic road
Speaker 1: in America, most romanticized for sure. Yeah that's not saying
Speaker 1: a lot though, I mean it is, for sure, but
Speaker 1: how many roads are there really even? Like you know what,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that too. This is a Debbie
Speaker 1: Ranka article. She's your buddy freak girl, right um and uh,
Speaker 1: she says in the article, like it is, you know,
Speaker 1: the most romanticized, the most um, the most immortalized road
Speaker 1: and pop culture. And I was thinking, like, there is
Speaker 1: nothing else. There aren't any other roads. What are the
Speaker 1: roads are there that are mentioned like specifically more than
Speaker 1: once not a song called the Only No there's um
Speaker 1: eighty five South yeah uh, which is mentioned by Outcast
Speaker 1: and the group eighty five Styles. Yes. And there's another
Speaker 1: one called that mentions eighty five Styles. That's all I
Speaker 1: could think of. Well, roads back then, and this is
Speaker 1: one of the basis of this article is it was
Speaker 1: a different deal back then. Roads were much more important
Speaker 1: and meant a lot more than nowadays, when you kind
Speaker 1: of take it all for granted because you don't get anywhere.
Speaker 1: And my hats off to the guys who you know,
Speaker 1: made sure that Route sixties six came into existence because
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't follow the path that we followed today,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, when you create a highway to
Speaker 1: go from point A to point B with as little
Speaker 1: resistance as possible, as fast as possible. Right, these guys
Speaker 1: shaped Root sixties six so that it literally went through
Speaker 1: the main streets of small towns throughout America. That's right, Josh.
Speaker 1: And these guys are two gentlemen, in particular, an Oklahoma
Speaker 1: real estate a gent named Cyrus Avery. Cyrus Sure, I
Speaker 1: like Sirius and John Woodruff, who was a highway guy.
Speaker 1: And they were, um, the two big advocates for starting
Speaker 1: Root sixty six from Chicago to Los Angeles. And uh, well,
Speaker 1: I think that there was a plan to have a
Speaker 1: highway from Chicago to Los Angeles. They're in on the
Speaker 1: debates on where to take it and have to do it,
Speaker 1: and everybody was like, well, we'll just use the old
Speaker 1: Santa Fe Trail. Why wouldn't we. I mean, it's already there,
Speaker 1: you go right there, And um, Sirius was good enough
Speaker 1: for the wagons. Yeah, Sirious was like, oh no, you
Speaker 1: don't because that doesn't go through Oklahoma. I'm an Oki
Speaker 1: and I want this road to go through my home state.
Speaker 1: By god, if he didn't wrestle it into reality, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I got a stat for you here I found UM.
Speaker 1: The reason this was necessary is because from nineteen ten
Speaker 1: to nineteen decade, five hundred thousand cars grew to ten
Speaker 1: million cars in ten years, and we weren't ready for
Speaker 1: that at all. I know, we weren't Chuck. That was
Speaker 1: a huge boom of UM automobiles and we basically it
Speaker 1: was like having UM going from five thousand computers to
Speaker 1: ten million computers and not having an Internet. Hey, you
Speaker 1: know it's a nice analogy. Thanks. Yeah. So the Associated
Speaker 1: Highways of America they developed a plan UM. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's pretty comprehensive. It wasn't just like, hey, let's build
Speaker 1: some roads. It was let's let's link them all, let's
Speaker 1: establish a numbering system, let's road signs, road sign uniform,
Speaker 1: road sign, absolutely warning signs. Upkeep? How are we gonna upkeep?
Speaker 1: All this? It was really comprehensive, right because prior to
Speaker 1: the the creation of the Associated Highways of America Plan UM,
Speaker 1: it was like immigration today, it's all patchwork or you know,
Speaker 1: you never know. If you are an illegal immigrant, you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to run into an Illinois
Speaker 1: and if you go to California, you have no it's patchwork.
Speaker 1: Well and you would name it, you know, you're like,
Speaker 1: this is the Lincoln Highway, right, Yeah, from here to here,
Speaker 1: it's the Lincoln Highway, right, uh yeah, because the same
Speaker 1: road could be adopted and renamed by any locality. This
Speaker 1: this group had the very UM a tremendous amount of
Speaker 1: foresight in saying like, no, no, no, Like, if we
Speaker 1: can get people easily from one place to another in
Speaker 1: these cars, they'll spend money along the way. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So one of the UM, one of
Speaker 1: the roads that came into existence out of this Associated
Speaker 1: Highways of America plan was eventually named Route sixty six
Speaker 1: and it was officially designated on November when the UM
Speaker 1: National Highway Act was passed. Right, yes, Josh Roote, sixty
Speaker 1: six was born, and it was a very popular road
Speaker 1: and it meant a lot more than here we've got
Speaker 1: a road. It linked Chicago to l a, which is
Speaker 1: a really big deal. That helped bring industry from east
Speaker 1: to west. Yeah, and this is the so it wasn't
Speaker 1: like the wild wild West, but the West wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was today thanks to Route sixty six that helped,
Speaker 1: you know, bring it forward and join you know, the
Speaker 1: rest of the country. Uh, the whole thing stretched miles rightly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things that interests me is it's changed
Speaker 1: so many times and had some carved out or added
Speaker 1: on or whatever that even the National Scenic Byways Association
Speaker 1: can say exactly how long it was, right, but roughly miles.
Speaker 1: And and like we said, it didn't take a direct
Speaker 1: route from Los Angeles or from Chicago to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It's snaked through eight different states Illinois, Missouri, and Chuck
Speaker 1: has a map here Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona,
Speaker 1: and California. And although it didn't follow the old Santa
Speaker 1: Fe trail, it did follow some obscure wagon trail used
Speaker 1: by Minor forty nine ers during the California Gold Rush.
Speaker 1: So people driving on Roote sixty six were actually following
Speaker 1: an old wagon trail. Well. Yeah, and another cool thing
Speaker 1: too is what it what it did besides make it
Speaker 1: quicker and bring industry, you know, back and forth quicker
Speaker 1: it Uh, this is the first time a lot of
Speaker 1: these people and a lot of these towns had access
Speaker 1: to a road like this, right, Like back in the day,
Speaker 1: you were just kind of stuck where you were, and
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get to Los Angeles, it was
Speaker 1: a lot tougher than just hopping on what became Root
Speaker 1: sixty six or later on right. And and remember we
Speaker 1: said that people um were spending money along the way
Speaker 1: at filling stations, at hotels and all this, and there
Speaker 1: was kind of this um celebratory idea of you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's attract these people. Let's get them to stay here,
Speaker 1: let's get them to stop here and get their guests,
Speaker 1: let's get them to eat here. So all these really
Speaker 1: great odd places sprung up, like, Um, there's the Twin Arrows,
Speaker 1: which is just this old store basically, and it's two
Speaker 1: old telephone poles sticking out of the ground made to
Speaker 1: look like arrows. They're being a yellow and red and
Speaker 1: I mean that's it. But I mean, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, Chuck, if you and I were to go
Speaker 1: down Peach Tree, we're not going to see two giant
Speaker 1: arrows sticking out of the side of the road. And
Speaker 1: that could be enough for you know, word of mouth
Speaker 1: to get through. Like you have to see the two
Speaker 1: Twin Arrows. They're huge and enormous cool, that's what's in
Speaker 1: your head over this other town that you heard nothing
Speaker 1: else about, right, and this is kitch. Now obviously when
Speaker 1: we look now and see Pee Wee's Big Adventure and
Speaker 1: we see the Caabazon dinosaurs, it's it's like it's funny.
Speaker 1: Or the world's tallest thermometer, which I've always had a
Speaker 1: problem with because it's not even a thermometer. What does
Speaker 1: it just look like a thermometer? Well, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: actually that's not on Root sixty six, that's in Baker.
Speaker 1: But every time I used to pass it angered me
Speaker 1: because it claims to be the world's tallest thermometer and
Speaker 1: it's just a readout of the temperature. That's really tall.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's full of mercury and it's like
Speaker 1: a hundred feet of mercury measuring. You know, it's just phony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but probably if they did fill it with mercury, it
Speaker 1: would violate some sort of law. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: mercury there are. I mean, D sixty six is still
Speaker 1: well we'll talk about the decline of in a minute,
Speaker 1: but it's still packed with some weird things like the
Speaker 1: twin arrows, the the Cozy Dog drive in which looks
Speaker 1: delicious in Illinois, they claim, although other people claim this
Speaker 1: as well, to have invented the corn dog. Yes, one
Speaker 1: of our favorite things a k a. The hot dog
Speaker 1: and a stick. It's a corn dog. Uh. And they
Speaker 1: are still open today. They've been open since the late forties.
Speaker 1: And did you see the sign? No, that was another
Speaker 1: thing too. There um signs sprung up for these places,
Speaker 1: and there's some great signs. The Cozy Dog in has
Speaker 1: two hot dogs in their look they look like honeymoon
Speaker 1: hot dogs. They're they're very cozy, and it's just I
Speaker 1: would stop there just for the sign, and I guess
Speaker 1: that that's the point, right, Yeah, same with the giganticus hedacus.
Speaker 1: Did you see this thing? I didn't see a picture
Speaker 1: of it now. It looks like one of the Eastern
Speaker 1: Island statues kind of buried up to its chin. Maybe Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's fourteen ft tall, right, fourteen ft above ground? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how much his underground. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, no reason for it, like the twin arrows,
Speaker 1: other than like to get people to stop, get out
Speaker 1: of their car and open their wallets. Right right. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been to the Cadillac Ranch. I haven't. That's
Speaker 1: pretty cool, Like a lot of these. I kind of
Speaker 1: turned my nose up at because it's really like south
Speaker 1: of the border type stuff. And I don't mean Mexico.
Speaker 1: I mean that place in North Carolina anyway. Cadillac Ranch
Speaker 1: uh in Texas, Amaro, Texas. It um. That is where
Speaker 1: you will find ten Cadillacs from nineteen sixty three stuck
Speaker 1: nose down into the ground. You can paint them, you
Speaker 1: can graffiti, um, you can do anything you want to them. Really,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I just assumed that the graffiti was.
Speaker 1: Now they encourage it and it's it's part of the allure.
Speaker 1: And that was a helium magnet named Stanley Marsh commissioned
Speaker 1: that in the nineteen seventies and then it was moved
Speaker 1: in the late nineties because it was like civilization was
Speaker 1: getting too close, so they actually moved it. So I
Speaker 1: had that confused with the Chicken Ranch until I read
Speaker 1: the description. I was like, Oh, that's not the Chicken Ranch.
Speaker 1: What's the Chicken Ranch. It's a famous brothel. Oh, okay
Speaker 1: in Nevada. I think I guess it would have to
Speaker 1: be Nevada. I've never been there. I haven't either. I
Speaker 1: would like to go officially on the record one more time.
Speaker 1: I have never been there either. I saw it on
Speaker 1: like I think a HBO Real Sex special when I
Speaker 1: was twelve. I got you yeah uh. And then Josh,
Speaker 1: there's the meteor crater, which I've actually been to, and
Speaker 1: that's why I pulled that page for you. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Chuck chuck him up with a little extra um supplemental
Speaker 1: research that included a picture and a description, and I
Speaker 1: just I couldn't make heads or tales of why he
Speaker 1: chose that. Now I understand, why did you go stand
Speaker 1: in the crater and get all irradiated? No, but that
Speaker 1: is in Amboy, California, and we uh did a TV
Speaker 1: commercial there and it's across from it's very near Royce
Speaker 1: Cafe and right there on Root sixty six. Royce Cafe
Speaker 1: is like the only thing around because I've already killed
Speaker 1: Root sixty six in that area. And um, I got
Speaker 1: a shirt I should have worn it like a little
Speaker 1: Royce Cafe and boy and boy like a sort of
Speaker 1: like a mechanic shirt. Nice, like a hipster mechanic shirt.
Speaker 1: Very nice. The creater is really cool though, right, Josh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's like fifty years old. Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 1: It's like two two and a half miles. Well, I
Speaker 1: let me count myself. I imagine that the dirt is
Speaker 1: far far older than fifty thou years old. But the
Speaker 1: shape right occurred fifty year the event they created the
Speaker 1: creator the meteor. But it's enormous. Like when you see it,
Speaker 1: it's like two and a half miles in circumference, fifty
Speaker 1: feet deep and you drive by it and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: what if that thing were to hit somewhere today in
Speaker 1: your civilization. But anyway, hats off to Roy's Cafe. They
Speaker 1: they're still around, uh today and back in the day
Speaker 1: they had seventy people that work there. Yeah, at its
Speaker 1: height when when sixty six was swinging it. Now, when
Speaker 1: I was in there, I got a milkshake, there was
Speaker 1: like to two dudes in there. Yeah, and you hats
Speaker 1: off to two still going because there's even parts of
Speaker 1: Roots sixty Roots sixty six are just gone. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: fifteen they say, is is just not even there anymore?
Speaker 1: You can still drive of it. Yeah, And so let's
Speaker 1: talk about the hey day, Chuck. In the hey day,
Speaker 1: there was a TV show called Root sixty six that
Speaker 1: premiered in nineteen sixty right, Um had a great little,
Speaker 1: uh little swinging theme song. Nelson riddles Root sixty six.
Speaker 1: Have you heard it? Not? No? No, In my opinion,
Speaker 1: it's way better. It's instrumental, but I listened to it
Speaker 1: all day to day while we were researching, and it's
Speaker 1: a good song. Um. And then you know, the TV
Speaker 1: show Root sixty six was written by this guy who traveled,
Speaker 1: actually traveled the country and like got inspiration for the
Speaker 1: TV show as he was writing it. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: was going in like he'd see a VA hospital and
Speaker 1: then he was writing a story about these two main
Speaker 1: characters who were like, uh, they kind of represent the
Speaker 1: post war baby boomer angst of like America won the
Speaker 1: war and like we have all this money now and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like disenfranchisement, which led to beat
Speaker 1: nicks and hippies and jet caroac and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And Root sixty six became emblematic of people pushing westward
Speaker 1: towards l A after the war. Easy writer, that was
Speaker 1: Root sixty But the TV show a little factoid. It
Speaker 1: was filmed in forty different states. Yeah, and that's like
Speaker 1: they don't even do that now, So to do that
Speaker 1: back then was like really revolutionary and Robert Redford was
Speaker 1: almost in that too. Did you see that? I did
Speaker 1: didn't make the cut though, we didn't forty states for
Speaker 1: one show. One show. That's where sixty six right near Josh.
Speaker 1: So can we are we at the decline, the sad decline?
Speaker 1: I think we are. Yeah, that same highway plan kind
Speaker 1: of is what killed it, because after World War Two
Speaker 1: they were like, we need people working, and we need
Speaker 1: more roads, better roads, faster roads, Like we need to
Speaker 1: go against what um Cyrus Avery came up with, which
Speaker 1: is just we'll circumvent towns. Towns slow things down, towns
Speaker 1: have red lights in them. Yeah, we're going to create
Speaker 1: these super highways. And that's what happened. Yeah, Eisenhower was
Speaker 1: inspired by the Altobahn and created the Federal Highway Act finally, right,
Speaker 1: and that that pretty much killed Root sixty six. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I forty killed a great portion of it,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it still runs side by side,
Speaker 1: which is the saddest part. Like you can be on
Speaker 1: Route sixty six and all you look to your right
Speaker 1: and you see people just like zooming by you, and
Speaker 1: it's really kind of you suckers. Get out of the
Speaker 1: rat race and they're looking at us, going, you hippie right,
Speaker 1: following the old Root sixty six. Actually I followed Route
Speaker 1: sixty six a little bit in New Mexico when I
Speaker 1: was living in the van beautiful country there on Route
Speaker 1: sixty six. Historic Root sixty six. That's a lot of yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of the The only way you can
Speaker 1: find Roote sixty six these days are Historic Route sixty
Speaker 1: six markers. Because you're saying, if already killed it, yeah,
Speaker 1: not only did was I forty? You know, can you
Speaker 1: say it was probably responsible? I forty was completed in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four and in nine five, Roots sixty six
Speaker 1: was officially decommissioned, so it didn't appear on any map.
Speaker 1: Basically said you're not a highway anymore, which is really sad.
Speaker 1: So if you want a drive Root sixty six or
Speaker 1: the portions that you can drive, you need to get
Speaker 1: a special map these days, and thankfully they make them
Speaker 1: that shows the old trail and or the trail the
Speaker 1: old highway and all the little quaint, little kitchy, cheesy
Speaker 1: things you can see and do along the way. So chuck.
Speaker 1: One of the things you can see as a statue
Speaker 1: A right, yeah, and foil Oklahoma? Right? Do you know
Speaker 1: about this? Oh? I love this guy. Um. There's a
Speaker 1: guy named Andy Payne and he is the guy who
Speaker 1: the statues of back in he won the Transcontinental foot Race.
Speaker 1: Oh that guy. Yeah, this guy was part Cherokee. He
Speaker 1: was from Oklahoma, and he ran from Los Angeles to
Speaker 1: New York in f and one miles. He won prize
Speaker 1: and this this thisbstantial amount of money. I would probably
Speaker 1: run that for fifty thou dollars today. I can only imagine.
Speaker 1: I didn't do the math, get like into New Jersey,
Speaker 1: need quit. I don't know. Yeah, Um, you're not part
Speaker 1: Cherokee though, No I'm not. It's in his blood. I'm
Speaker 1: part Choctaw. Um are you really know? Because I am? No,
Speaker 1: you're not like way way very small part, isn't everybody? So? Um? So?
Speaker 1: The so Mr Payne ran from New York to or
Speaker 1: l A to New York in uh five hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy three hours, which is twenty three days. Right. But
Speaker 1: to make it thirty four dred miles in seventy three hours,
Speaker 1: he would have had to have run an average of
Speaker 1: six miles an hour. For twenty three straight days without stopping,
Speaker 1: so god knows how fast he was running because he
Speaker 1: had to sleep at some point in time. Right, But
Speaker 1: this guy, if you ask me, he deserved not only
Speaker 1: the twenty five thou dollars. I think I said fifty
Speaker 1: thod earlier today night. So uh that's about it. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Root sixty six is on
Speaker 1: the Registry of National Historic Places and they're trying to
Speaker 1: preserve as much of it as they can thanks to
Speaker 1: a bill that President Clinton signed. But it's also on
Speaker 1: a list of what was that other list it was on,
Speaker 1: basically saying it was endangered the Endangered species list of
Speaker 1: highways highways. Yeah, well, the problem was it wasn't like
Speaker 1: Eisenhower was like, wa, I'm going to destroy Americana. It
Speaker 1: was Root sixties six was too busy. It couldn't handle
Speaker 1: the traffic that it was set up for, which is
Speaker 1: the most embarrassing and humiliating experience a highway can have. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much, ear that are a dead end. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty humiliating, poor dead end roads. So that's Rod
Speaker 1: sixty six. As you were saying, um, it's still around BIA.
Speaker 1: Special man go check it out and just kind of
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Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com, which is not at
Speaker 1: all handy. So listener mail time. Huh yeah, Josh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call this. Uh, this is what you get for
Speaker 1: pledging and for at okay, hey, Josh and Chuck. I
Speaker 1: listened to the Ghost Prison podcast and found one particular
Speaker 1: part pretty funny and relevant to something that happened to me.
Speaker 1: I've never been in a ghost prison or a political
Speaker 1: prisoner yet, but I have been held captive and tortured
Speaker 1: with music. This past fall, I pledged a fraternity at
Speaker 1: a major university. He doesn't reveal like anything. Of course,
Speaker 1: that's what those guys did here. One night while I
Speaker 1: was pledging, the brothers had us all show up at
Speaker 1: this kid's house. With the promise of a really good time.
Speaker 1: That's when I would run screaming as soon as we
Speaker 1: walked through the door like a dummy. As soon as
Speaker 1: we walked through the door, we were searched, our pockets
Speaker 1: were emptied, and we were putt into a really dirty,
Speaker 1: dank basement which is probably about twelve by twelve one
Speaker 1: couch for eleven dudes. As soon as everyone got there,
Speaker 1: they slammed the door, shut off the lights, and started
Speaker 1: playing Mambo number five by Lou Bega. It's as bad
Speaker 1: as it gets. Um. If it doesn't come to mind
Speaker 1: lou Bega if you listen to his podcast, we apologize,
Speaker 1: but it's true and get back to pumping that gash.
Speaker 1: They had it on. They had it on full blast
Speaker 1: from a pretty powerful stereo from about eight pm to
Speaker 1: two AM, so like six hours straight of loue Vega's
Speaker 1: song Mambo number five. We had to raise our voices
Speaker 1: even to be able to hear each other. At two
Speaker 1: a m. They abruptly turned off the music and shouted,
Speaker 1: go to sleep. We all breathed this I of relief
Speaker 1: the end. Then we tried to go to sleep. After
Speaker 1: about ten minutes we heard it playing faintly in the distance.
Speaker 1: I thought it was my mind playing tricks on me.
Speaker 1: But after about thirty minutes it got gradually and gradually louder,
Speaker 1: and then it was full blast again and remained on
Speaker 1: for the next forty eight hours with only a ten
Speaker 1: second break. So Jack who was in a fraternity and
Speaker 1: had to endure that for like two days, And the
Speaker 1: reason he didn't include all this is because that fraternity
Speaker 1: would be shut down and the university would be sued
Speaker 1: if this came to light, because that is wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to call for fraternity stories, So what
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