1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Kf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app on the radio from one until four, 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: and then after four o'clock you could listen on the 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: iHeart app for the John and Ken on demand podcast 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: and there that way evening entertainment, morning entertainment, and it's 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: everything that you missed. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: All right, Your chance for money is still ahead. 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You can still leave a message the 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon, or use that toll free 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: seven sixty six four seven eight eighty six. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: You may remember the story. 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: It was Winco Foods store up in Lancaster grocery store 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: and there was a call for police because the employee 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: said that a man and a woman had not only 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: stolen some items, but they had assaulted one of the employees. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: And then the cops showed up and there was some 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: rough stuff between a cop and the woman. 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: She got knocked to the ground, Yeah, and she got 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: pepper sprayed, and so all hell came down on the cop. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: What we had at the time was video taken by 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: a bystander body camp video. Now it appears we also 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: have security video from inside the store that's come out 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: that could add to the story. Steve Gregory, of course, 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: has been covering this for CAFI News, so he'll come 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: on to talk about all these developments. 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: So a big question whether the deputy was it was 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: using the proper use of force when he threw the 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: woman to the ground. Sure, And now that we have 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: another side to this story, I think it's important to 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: note that I think I've mentioned it on the show 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: many times. When a deputy or an officer is being 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: sent to a scene, all they have to go on 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: is what the dispatcher tells them. So in this case, 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: I am looking at the actual dispatch log from Lancaster 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Station for that day. He has that in his hand 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: and I'm reading it and it's in code here, so 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm deciphering it for the sake of the show. Here, 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: but it says at twelve sixteen pm on July eighth 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: incident two eleven inn and then two eleven is a robbery, 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: so it's two eleven in progress, two eleven in It 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: also says, you know, the suspects are fighting lost prevention 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: at store. Suspect one female adult, black sweater, gray leggings, 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Suspect two male, black adult, and then nothing else there. 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: But then what's interesting is, well, first of all, it's 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: an emergency. That means they roll Code three lights and siren, 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: So that means there's threat to body. It's it's imminent 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: threat or death or whatever the case is. It escalates 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: to lights and sirens. But then down here that was 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: at twelve sixteen. Then at twelve seventeen, deputies get there's 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: a conversation that says currently in front of location unknown 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: if weapons involved. So now deputies are operating on the 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: possibility that there could be weapons. Anytime the word weapons 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: is set on any kind of a radio call, cops 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: and deputies, you know, protective forces go up if you will. 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: So now I talked to Tom You, who is representing 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: the deputy that was seen in this bystanders video, And 63 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: this is Attorney Tom You on KADA explaining what is 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: on the new video as you mentioned, that was released 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: by Winco. 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: In that video, you can see the female suspect. She 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: had a mask on. She at some point lowered her 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: mask and made a motion with her facial area and 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: it peared to be she was fitting not the security officer. Oh, 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: and the security staff wiped the spit off of his 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: faith and proceeded to follow her, and a couple moments 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: later you see her kind of lower her shoulder a 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: little bit and almost rang her shoulder into the security staff. 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: That was the three minutes or about two and a 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: half minutes before the Lancaster desk received a NW one 76 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: one call from Winco. 77 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: So that was what prompted to call. Right there, it 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: is that's the assault. She spit on him, which is assault, yes, 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: and then then lowered the shoulder, the shoulder and ran 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: and ran into him at that point too. So if 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: two incidents of assault there and the robbery part, right, 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: So that's why the emergency call because there was violence 83 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: already involved. 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: Right, But again the cops don't know if there are 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: weapons exactly. And you said, what it goes out is 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: a code three. It says here which means lights and sirens, right. 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: Which means and let me tell you, code three isn't 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: used like it used to be. Back in the day. 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: It was the discretion of the jeputy or the officer 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: to roll code three because they were the ones that 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: knew what their conditions were. But because of law suits 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: over the years and deputies going through red lights and 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: crashes and accidents and liability, they've taken that away from 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: the field deputy and the field officer and they put 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: it in the hands of a watch commander or a supervisor, 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: and they're the ones that get to decide whether they 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: get to roll code three, which means it has to 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: escalate to becoming an emergency call and get approval from 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: a supervisor before they can go code three. And all 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: that has to happen in an instant, in an instant, 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and it's based on whatever the dispatcher is coansmitting right 102 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: exactly in what the dispatcher is getting from a nine 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: to one one caller. So that person and I actually 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: have the name of the phone number of the person 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: who called nine to one one here I'm looking at it. 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: And that call had come in at you know, as 107 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: you said that right moments after that, and that person 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: reported what they saw and what had happened. So the 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: dispatcher relays that to the deputies in the field, and 110 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: the deputies are responding to the scene based on that act. 111 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: And that's what Tom You, the attorney is trying to 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: make the point of. It's like Sheriff Luna should have 113 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: never come out and had that press conference and done 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: what he had done because he didn't have all the 115 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: facts in front of him. And if he called it disturbing, right, 116 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: and if he's going to release bystander video or body 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: you know, any kind of video, he needs to release 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: the other video. That's the assertion of Tom You now 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: here in cut beee, I asked the attorney. I said, well, 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: what exactly do you think this does to your client 121 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: and what do you want from the sheriff. 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: I would invite the sheriff to issue an apology to 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: my client and do the right thing, which is ringsay 124 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: my client. 125 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 5: To food duty without restrictions, and because the truth is 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 5: the truth, right, I mean, I think Sheriff Luna folded 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: to some of the political pressures that were being applied 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 5: to him and he failed to take his proper course 129 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 5: as the leader of the sheriff department. He did not 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: gather and he omitted information that was critical to his evaluation. 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 5: I think that itself, deed, is very disturbing to me. 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Well, this is you know, I mean, Luna's either got 133 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: to wait for the information or He's got to use 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: the information to explain why he's taking the action and 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: saying the things. 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, why did he have to run out at a 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: news conference like a day after the video came out? 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: But he's he's critical of the cops without having the information. 139 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: You can't have that in the sheriff. That is really 140 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: bad leadership. Well, and it's starting to impact morale. It 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: has impacted morale both Palmdale and Lancaster stations and both 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: Tom you but I've I've talked to deputies already to 143 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: say that morale up there now is they're really kind 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: of just you know, kind of open around now and 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: just really I guess Sheriff Luna paid the Lancaster station 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: to visit the other the other night and it didn't 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: go well, oh yeah, he could, he couldn't sell his 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: he didn't go well, I was told he didn't go puppet. 149 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, Well, I mean, first, i mean it's this look 150 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: where this is now the Justice Department's investigating, the State 151 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: Attorney General's investigating, of course the sheriff. 152 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Gascoyne hasn't gotten involved. 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: I was told that the the DA is not going 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: to touch this one. Wow, he loves to come after cops. 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: That So wasn't that much of an incident to begin with? 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: It was not? 157 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: I mean, and and have we and they have been 158 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: charged with petty theft and battery of store staff. 159 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: So refresh my memory. 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: You was also saying that there's video of this woman, 161 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: the suspect, raising her fist towards the deputy. Yeah, out 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: in the parking lot, out in the parking lot, and 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: that's when he threw her to. 164 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: The ground, right now. Have you seen that video? Yeah? 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: Well no, no, that was that was in that that 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: was in that initial bystander video. 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh it was. 168 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: You see where according to Tom, you that you see 169 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: where she's raising her hand and raising her fist in 170 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: a manner of that she could strike him. And you 171 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: got to remember all of the events leading up to 172 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: that moment gave the deputy reasonable suspicion that she was 173 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: a violent an individual or could pose a violent threat. Okay, 174 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: So she spits at the employee, she lowers her shoulder 175 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: and rams the employee. Then she raises her fist to 176 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: the deputy while her male partner was getting handcuffed, right, 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: and she's shouting and making demands and stuff. So I 178 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: and going up to the deputy and resisting lawful commands, right, 179 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I don't see what was out of line here? Well, 180 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you want a cop to do. 181 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: He's got to make the situation, say for himself and 182 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: his partner and any other bystanders. 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: And she's acting like a lunatic. 184 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, Tom, you said that what's really the saddest part 185 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: of all on this is that the optics of a 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: white deputy taking down a black woman in a very 187 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: physical manner. And he said, that's what people have glommed 188 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: on too. I see, so we can't have white officers anymore. 189 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't understand this, this nonsense regarding 190 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: people's color. Did she was she acting up in a 191 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: threatening way? 192 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Yes? Did he do what a cop is supposed to do? Yes? 193 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: What the color doesn't matter here, And that's where the 194 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: Sheriff's got to say. He's got to come out and 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: say this stop judging these incidents by color. Let's look 196 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: at the actions of the suspect and the actions of 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: the officer and then make a judgment and who's right 198 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: and who's not. 199 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'll leave you with this. 200 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: I think the thing that when Tom, you and I 201 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: were discussing this, the thing that kind of sticks out 202 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: to him is that Sheriff Luna was quick to say 203 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: how many activists, community leaders and politicians he called, But 204 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: in that same breath he never once mentioned he called 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: the deputy for his side of the story. That's bad 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: that's bad news. All right, gee, thank you very much. 207 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: Good reporting there. 208 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: All right, Steve Gregory Moore coming up, including your chance 209 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: at money. Another keyword will be revealed. Johnny kenkf I 210 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: AIM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 211 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 212 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 213 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: All right, well done. 214 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: You know it's been said, and I don't really disagree 215 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: that when the nation gets fascinated with the missing person story, 216 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: it's usually a pretty blonde woman. Yes, it is tends 217 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: to be the case. In fact, in the next story 218 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: we're about to do, I was thinking about that woman 219 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: in Northern California. Remember she faked her disappearance. Trying to 220 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: remember her name. She had like a funny name. Remember 221 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: that woman, the blonde woman. 222 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was supposedly the perfect mother and wife. 223 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: And she said she was subducted by two Latina women. 224 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Remember that. Yes? 225 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: And didn't she have an ex boyfriend shooting hockey pucks 226 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: at her? 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: Yes, she came to Orange County, good memory, and the 228 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: guy was to try to make it look like she 229 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: got beat up. 230 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Sherry Peppinie I think Peppini is name right. 231 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, for a few days, we had a story that 232 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: was making headlines and I was following it to some 233 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: extent of a missing woman in Alabama by the name 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: of Carlee Russell. And she's a black woman. And apparently 235 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: what happened with her is she called nine to one 236 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: one to say that she had found a toddler walking 237 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: on the inner State. She wanted to report that, so 238 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: she was calling nine one one. Well, she vanished after that. 239 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: And the first thing that happened that was a little 240 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: suspicious is the police said they found no evidence of 241 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: a toddler that was walking on the interstate. 242 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: So she said that she was forced. She did show 243 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: up a few. 244 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: Days later, just like Puppini. Ah Peppini was months, wasn't it. 245 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: I think a couple of yek Yeah. She said she 246 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: was forced into an eighteen wheeler, taken to a home 247 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: where a man and a woman told her to get 248 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: undressed and took photos of her nude. Though blindfolded, she 249 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: was not bound because she said they didn't want to 250 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: leave impressions on her wrists. 251 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: She said she could hear a. 252 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: Baby crying and a woman with the man that she 253 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: said kidnapped her. She said the man had orange hair 254 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: with a big bald. 255 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Spot on the back. That's pretty specific, right, and very colorful. 256 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: That's right. 257 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: They just emerged from the trees of the interstate and 258 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: pulled her in to the eighteen wheeler. 259 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: She said. 260 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: She escaped the truck, but was captured again and put 261 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: into a car, and then at a house she was 262 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: forced to undress and be photographed. 263 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: It's quite a story. It's really complicated if it's made up. 264 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: She does not remember them having any physical or sexual 265 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: contact with her. 266 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Instead, the next. 267 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: Day she woke up, she was fed cheese crackers by 268 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: the female. The woman played with her hair, and then 269 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: at some point she was. 270 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: Put into a car. 271 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: I managed to escape, She told detectives. She ran through 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: a lot of woods until she came out near her 273 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: own residence. That's rather fortunate, isn't It's that's a lot 274 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: of mess she must have taken. She also really sounds 275 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: like a drug trip hallucination. She was busy searching the internet, 276 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: maybe mushas on July eleventh. The search if you have 277 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: if you have to pay for an Amber alert? Another 278 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: was for a one way bus ticket from Birmingham to Nashville, Tennessee. 279 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: Another search how to take money from her register without 280 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: being caught, and then a search for the movie Taken, 281 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: a film about abduction starring Liam Neeson. I like the 282 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: part do you have to pay for an Amber Alert? 283 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: So she was hoping to be an Amber alert woman? 284 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: Ay, but I guess she wondered. 285 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: It's like, well, if they catch me and figure this out, 286 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: why then have to pay for the alert? 287 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: So what I'll disappear myself and make up a story 288 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: about being abducted. It finally interviewed her. She did have 289 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: a small injury to her lip. And here's an odd thing, 290 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and seven dollars in cash in her right sock. 291 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like the Peppini woman, just a complete 292 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: mental breakdown. 293 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and the desire to be to be the subject 294 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: of attention. Yeah, yeah, it says here. The night she vanished, 295 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: surveillance video from a spa where she worked showed that 296 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: she concealed a dark colored bathrobe, a roll of toilet paper, 297 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: and other items belonging to the business prior to her departure. 298 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: Did She then ordered food from a local restaurant and 299 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: picked it up, went to Target where she purchased granola bars, cheese. 300 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: It's in a drink and all this stuff was still 301 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: in the car. 302 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: That's really I mean, that's really erratic behavior. It suggests 303 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: like schizophrenia or some kind of breakdown. I mean, that's 304 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: that's what you know, homeless people do. They do crazy 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: erratic stuff like that. She does have a boyfriend, god 306 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: rest by. 307 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: His name is Tamar Latrelle Simmons, like that husband Cherry 308 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: Peppini had. His Facebook page was once filled with photos 309 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: of he and Carly together. He has taken them all down. Yeah, 310 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: tried to get out. She's a nursing dude. 311 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I'd be packing, be packing fast. 312 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: He was one of those when she was missing, said 313 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: that she's out there fighting for her life. 314 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: But I guess he's probably changed his tune about call 315 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: your friends over who has a van she brings some boxes. 316 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a strange kind of mental state of mind 317 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: to want to people to front searched for you. Yeah, 318 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: that's just a very lonely, sad person. 319 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: See, the brain is very fragile. It doesn't take much 321 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: for it to go completely haywire. 322 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 323 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Apparently she drove the length of six football fields while 324 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: making calls about spotting this child, so that to get 325 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: people worked up, she claimed it was a three or 326 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: a four year old. It's out there wandering around near 327 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: the interstate. We got to help this child. And then 328 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: when they got to the scene, she was gone. 329 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: There was no childler, There was nothing right, no other witness. 330 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Is nobody else calling in night? 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because a toddler on the side of an interstate, 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: you'd get a lot of calls on that, right. 333 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: They offered eventually, and I ended up with sixty three 334 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: thousand dollars being offered in reward money. The cops officially 335 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: are still saying they just haven't verified her story. Whether 336 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: she ends up in the Sherry Pepita category because she 337 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: eventually got charged, didn't she or something? 338 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Yes? She did. Yeah. 339 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: Now, because you're taking up police resources. This is mental 340 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: hospital time. That's where that's where she how to go. 341 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: We should feel sad, right, No, I'm exhausted. I can't 342 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: feel for anybody anymore. 343 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: All Right, we got more coming up. 344 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio App. 345 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm still worn out from a screaming guy this morning 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: in the park. 347 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 348 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: AM six. 349 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: Forty on the radio from one till four after four o'clock. 350 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: Listen to what you missed the iHeart app as the 351 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 2: John and Ken on demand podcast. 352 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: And the voice line is coming back this hour tomorrow. 353 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: Leave your messages. 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I've heard 360 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: much about her lately, but she's in the news this 361 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: week is Diane Feinstein, who is and still, as far 362 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: as we know, no intentions to step down from her 363 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: US Senate seat. 364 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: But she made the news this week, and I'm a 365 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: bit baffled. 366 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: She's apparently decided to file a petition with the court 367 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: to make her daughter, Catherine Feinstein, the successor trustee of 368 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: her husband's trust, Richard Bloom died last year, and she's 369 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: arguing that the people serving as trustees have refused to 370 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: make distributions to reimburse Senator Feinstein's medical expenses. Why I'm 371 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: puzzled is that, first of all, this story says the 372 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 3: trust is worth somewhere between one million and five million, 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: but there are government transparency reports that estimate that Feinstein 374 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: is worth one hundred and twenty million dollars. 375 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: So doesn't want her husband was extraordinarily wealthy. Yes, I 376 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: forget how he made all that money. 377 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: I think he was involved in investments and venture capital stuff. 378 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I remember I did look him up one time. So 379 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: why do they need the trust? 380 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: Is it that they don't want to dip into her 381 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 3: own I'm guessing they want to dip into her own assets, 382 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: which you would like to leave to family, and they'd 383 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: rather dip into the trust which is supposed to provide 384 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 3: for her as well. They're claiming that the trustees, their 385 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: names are Mark R. Klein and Mark Schlovnik, who previously 386 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: needs to work for Bloom, they were improperly appointed and 387 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: they're not paying. Their response is, we don't understand this. 388 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: We've never denied any disbursement to Senator Feinstein, let alone 389 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: from medical expenses. He has not been shown any evidence 390 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: that this sister, this daughter, Catherine Feinstein, has power of 391 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: attorney for her mother. 392 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: They're married over forty years, and he got a lung cancer, 393 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: so he knew what was coming. So you'd think all 394 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: this would be laid out in writing. I wonder if 395 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: this is her one of her dementia moments. Here, she's 396 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: gotten paranoid, She's made up a problem that doesn't really exist. 397 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: But then why would the daughter, who actually has some 398 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: political positions in the Bay Area, why would she go 399 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: along with this? 400 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Right? 401 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: The daughter apparently was some kind of judge or something 402 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: like that, So I don't understand any of this. 403 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: If she's got over one hundred million dollars, then why 404 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: did none of this makes any sense. 405 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: It except you're fighting over the trust of the dead husband. Well, 406 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: let's spend that money, right, rather than my own money 407 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: kind of thing. I mean, the story says here Feinstein 408 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: sold a home she owned with her husband in Aspen 409 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: this year for twenty five million dollars. In twenty twenty one, 410 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: Bloom sold a Lake Tahoe home for thirty six million dollars. 411 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had an investment firm. I was right, he 412 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: was involved in this, right, thirty six million dollars. Yeah, 413 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: lake Tahoe, Lake Tahoe. Yeah, it must have been quite 414 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: the beautiful. Was that Is that a hotel? 415 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: Uh? 416 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Let me see, I'm going to there's a link here 417 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: to see a picture of it. 418 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean between the two homes, that's 419 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: sixty million dollars plus. 420 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh. 421 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: The New York Post says they had to cut the price 422 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: by ten millions. The waterfront compound was briefly listed for 423 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: forty six million in twenty twenty, taking off the market. 424 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: Relisted in June for forty one million. The price was 425 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: slashed the thirty six million in it was. 426 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: Perchact right, So that find Sein has got medical expenses 427 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: and she asked their marital trust to pay it, and 428 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: they won't pay it. 429 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: That's what she's claiming, right, because the trust is run 430 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: by two former Bloom associates, who I think because by 431 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: the way, if I mentioned this, both Feinstein and Bloom 432 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: had children from their previous marriages, right, So they didn't 433 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: I don't think they. They think they got married later 434 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: in life and didn't have any kids together. I'm married 435 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty, so it's forty two years they were together. 436 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Right, But she's already fifty years old then, so there 437 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: were no new kids. Oh my god, that's right. It 438 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: should be forty eight or fifty. 439 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: What I suspect here is a little struggle going on 440 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: because apparently Feinstein's daughter is claiming that they won't let 441 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: her sell a property they have in a place called 442 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: Stintson Beach. That the daughters are fighting her because they 443 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: want to they would reduce their inheritance when the senator dies, 444 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 3: and they want to make use of the residents during 445 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: her lifetime and after her death at her expense. That's 446 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: what the daughter put in the court documents. Bluem has 447 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: three daughters right from his previous marriage. So this smells 448 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: to me a lot like very wealthy people fighting over 449 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: you know, being getting more of the of the inheritance 450 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: and the monetary pie. 451 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: That's what. 452 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: It sounds like, one of those infighting things between rich people. 453 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what. 454 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that I'm already rich. On principle, You're 455 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: not getting that money. I want that money. 456 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: They're all gonna end up with tens of millions of 457 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: dollars and nobody's happy. 458 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean Feinstein's really worth one hundred and 459 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: twenty million. That's a that's a grand inheritance. 460 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: Plus is a question of you know, your liquid assets 461 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 3: versus your ill liquid assets. She may be worth one 462 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty million, but it's not stuff that you 463 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: know you can sell tomorrow. 464 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: That you can ask access very easily. No, most wealthy 465 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: people don't have much liquidity, right, that's often the problem 466 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: with net worth. All right, we got more coming up. 467 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: John and kenkf I AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 468 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 469 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 470 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do you ten years better. 471 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: I mentioned Joe Biden eighty right, Diane Feinstein, the last 472 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: story ninety Where do we go next? One hundred, one 473 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: hundred Henry Kissinger. He just went to China. He's there now. 474 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: He's still shuffling around. I saw an Internet with the 475 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: Chinese president today. Yeah, he's still trying to make peace 476 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: for us. He turned one hundred in May. He's still 477 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: taking trips around the world. That's remarkable. 478 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I saw a TV interview with him. I read an 479 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: interview with him in print, and he's still he's still 480 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: on top of it. 481 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: He did. 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: Did you actually hear him speak? He was very coherent. 483 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: I don't mean dementia. It's also the voice. 484 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: It's really it's the German accent, you know, that's that's 485 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: but if you can decode that, that's the hardest part. 486 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he sounds older ravily, the German 487 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: accent and all. 488 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: But you know, his his his thoughts were the content 489 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: was good. 490 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: Fifty two years ago he initiated the normalization of US 491 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: China relations. 492 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: Thanks for that. There he is, he was, but he 493 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: was already fifty years old. 494 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Then well, it's like Feinstein's married. She's married over forty 495 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: years when she was fifty. It's like what, Yeah, So. 496 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's an official emissary or he 497 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: kind of did this on his own. It's not really clear, 498 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: but the Chinese welcomed him because clearly, you know. 499 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: Made them a lot of money opened up the American markets. 500 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. 501 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: Well, there's always people that want to eat challenging things. 502 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. 503 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: But there was a woman who went to a restaurant 504 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: in Loscado's and she saw an item on the menu 505 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: that well, she asked about it. She thought it might 506 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 3: be cool to try. The menu item is called dragon balls. 507 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 3: Well it's a chicken dragon balls. No, I don't know, 508 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: A spicy chicken appetizer prepared with dried tie peppers. 509 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: I guess those are particularly Oh so these aren't some 510 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: weird animals testicles. 511 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: No, they just call them dragon balls because dragons breathe fire, 512 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: you get it. 513 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: So I heard balls. I got Yeah, I know, because everybody. 514 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I know dragons are real. But 515 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: I thought maybe there's. 516 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: What's the dish where they serve like bowl testicles or something. 517 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a name for it. I don't remember. 518 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: So she went to the restaurant in July of twenty 519 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: twenty one and she ordered the dragon balls and she 520 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: ate them, and wow, she says, she instantly felt her 521 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: entire mouth, the roof of her mouth, her tongue, her throat, 522 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: and her nose burned like fire. The chili ti chilies 523 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: can range from fifty thousand to two hundred and fifty 524 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: thousand heat units on what they call the Scoville scale. 525 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I just said that a game show the other night. 526 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: What's the spicy scale called the Scoville scale for reference, 527 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: Jalapenos are only twenty five hundred to five thousand, and 528 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: so this was what this was anywhere between fifty thousand 529 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: and two hundred and fifty thousand, so at least ten 530 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: times even more than that, twenty times, don't I don't. 531 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Get that because hot, Yeah, it's it's some kind of 532 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: like oil, right, that erupts in your mouth. 533 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: She says that her throat and her voice have been damaged, 534 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: She incurred permanent injuries, she will forever be damaged to 535 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: her body. She's suing more than two dozen people, including 536 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: the owner, the chef, the server, anyone who influenced design 537 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: prepared to participate in creating the dragon ball dish. The 538 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: lawsuit says the response was, we don't use that much 539 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: chili spice. 540 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: In our dragon balls. They were not accepted. 541 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure other people have eaten them. Maybe she was 542 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: particularly sensitive to this particular type of tying. 543 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: Or she's she's a scam artist and shaking them down. 544 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: The lawsuits said that the dish is dangerous to life, 545 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: unfit for human consumption, likely to cause injury to a 546 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: reasonable person, should not be given to or eaten by 547 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: any people. 548 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: So they went to full out in their language. 549 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: And they want to they want to settle. 550 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: While she has no voice for holo esophagus is burnt out. 551 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: But unless there was a mistake in making that dish, 552 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: why would she be the only one? 553 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: And everything's relative. You ever got a restaurant and sometimes 554 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: you ask the server is it really spicy? And they 555 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: tell you it depends on your intolerance exactly. 556 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: I got a friend who go's out of his way 557 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: to eat the hottest dishes like he almost Oh, I 558 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: do too. I know people like they pride themselves on 559 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: it too. They think it's really cool, right, and their 560 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: face turns all red and it looks like they're gonna 561 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: have a heart attack and die, But all right, if 562 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: that's what you want. 563 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: To do, that's how they get their thrilled. I don't pressing. 564 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: People won't see any pleasure in that, but eat really 565 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: hot foods, and I don't get it either. My problem 566 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: is I think spicy food's ruined the real underneath taste. 567 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Of the food. 568 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: I don't really understand why you just want to eat 569 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: hot spice then just to drink a bottle of thin 570 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: it's a bassco, yes, something like that, gargle with it 571 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: really turns you on. 572 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Conway's here, hey now, hay now. Tough night for me? 573 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: Last night? Tough night. 574 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 7: If I played my mom's birthday, my sister's birthday, and 575 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 7: my birthday and my brothers all four our birthdays, a 576 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 7: billion dollars. Those numbers were all my brothers. My sister 577 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: was born in July and the seventh I'm ten, thirteen 578 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 7: October thirteenth. My mom was on the twenty fourth on 579 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 7: Christmas Eve, so that's five numbers. And the other one 580 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 7: was eleven, my brother's birthday. If I just played my 581 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 7: brother's birthday, my sister's, my mom's, myself, four birthdays, billion dollars. 582 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Do that next week. But you know what, but I felt. 583 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 7: Like that was a blessing that my mom was looking 584 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: over me, saying if if you got a hold of 585 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 7: a billion dollars, it would kill you. Yeah, but you'd 586 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 7: be dead by from Yeah, I'd be in Vegas with 587 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: a whole floor to myself and shoving cocaine in every office. 588 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: You'd be all in. That's the first bet you have. 589 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: You got to triple it on the first bed. If 590 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: you have a lottery ticket down on the table, all in? 591 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Did you ever buy a ticket with those numbers? 592 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 7: I I no, not with those not with those exact numbers. 593 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: No, oh, well, thedn't really what is this worth? You've 594 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: never tried it? 595 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I blew it last night. Yeah, when's that 596 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 7: gonna come? You never thought of? 597 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: No? No, no, I've thought about. 598 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 7: I always played my brother's sisters, my dad's and my wife's, 599 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 7: my daughter's birthdays, always always, so I technically could have 600 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 7: played that, but I haven't played those. Look, I got 601 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 7: a big family to play all my numbers. They cost 602 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: me seven hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, you got like six siblings. 603 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 7: I have four younger brothers and older sister. 604 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Right, No, say that'd be an endless number of comments 605 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: and stepsister and I got the it's a mess. 606 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I got a lot of a lot of a lot 607 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: of things going on. You love them all though, that's right. 608 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 7: But that Feinstein thing, I've been through that before with 609 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: my dad. 610 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: That's a money grab. 611 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one hundred and twenty five million line around. 612 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: There's enough for everybody. They're fighting over a three million 613 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: dollar trust. 614 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 7: Fund, right, but they get really greedy. The wealthier you get, 615 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: the greedier you get. Like the friends I've had that 616 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 7: made a lot of money are the cheapest people I know. 617 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 7: That's true, true story. And the guys who don't make 618 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 7: much money. Man, they buy drinks for everybody. 619 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Way too generally. 620 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: Eventually you live long enough, your whole family turns on 621 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: you because they want they want that money again. Right. 622 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 7: Well, well, death doesn't bring people together. It separates people financially. 623 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: And and the Internet as well. I think Facebook has 624 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 7: probably separated more people that it's brought together. 625 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's caused more trouble. Yeah, Conway's up next. 626 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Sell it will be with us. That's a big deal 627 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: in Dean Sharp. 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