WEBVTT - REPLAY - Eric Benét

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<v Speaker 1>R and b's Money.

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<v Speaker 2>Child.

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<v Speaker 3>We are the authorities.

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<v Speaker 4>R and B.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? People?

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<v Speaker 3>You have just tuned into the R and B Money Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Tank, this is Jay Valentine, and we are the

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<v Speaker 3>authorities on R and B music and in the building

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<v Speaker 3>all the way from mell Walkee mail town.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh anything with mail letter mail do my brother from

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<v Speaker 1>another mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the insight man waiting to come up in this.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen this. We want to this. We want to kick

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<v Speaker 3>this thing off the right way. Okay, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>kick this off the right.

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<v Speaker 1>In honor, yes, okay, in honor of Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, are you all of a sudden organic? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden? Are you in touch with the

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<v Speaker 3>earth people? All of a sudden? You? Wait, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you. Started this ship there was a man, yeah, walking.

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<v Speaker 2>Barefoot, barefoot.

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<v Speaker 3>He had already had sea shells attached the strings and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we was trying to figure out how is

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<v Speaker 1>he doing this? Is he Listen?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to tell you every girl I knew everyone

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god. I was like, no shoes up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Eric B.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my temple and was like, still represent

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<v Speaker 1>we are not wearing shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>With no shoes, I'm gonna get rid of my heir.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus is here man, Jesus ey thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It was every nay, Lenny Kraviss Maxwell, a very small

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<v Speaker 5>group of elite organic men.

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<v Speaker 2>We all smell like that. You back then, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies like, remember he would be on Venice Beach

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<v Speaker 2>and the nigga be selling. I got some portunity for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see this, he's been doing this, so you said

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<v Speaker 3>some money eventually eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Now y'all come in the terms.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you've got your feet now you now you now

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<v Speaker 3>you're not now you hold he's been doing it and

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<v Speaker 3>the women have been going.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you a question. Yes, answer your question.

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<v Speaker 1>Please do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about the bare feet thing. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that on Was that on purpose?

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<v Speaker 3>Like did you know going into this like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give them something, something different, I'm gonna give them something vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 3>something you know what I'm saying a different kind of

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<v Speaker 3>with my feet out, I'm comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you about that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go a little surface with it, then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was first signed back in nineteen Hendres

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<v Speaker 2>and Hum, it was me and my sister. We were

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<v Speaker 2>called Bennet. We were first. My first record deal was

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<v Speaker 2>with E and My Records, and so you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>came up in Milwaukee. We did like the clubs we

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<v Speaker 2>would do, like the obscure cities in Michigan and Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we got our record deal. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>always used to looking to my left and seeing my

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<v Speaker 2>sister right there. Okay, first record deal didn't work out

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<v Speaker 2>so good. My sister was like, baby brother, you go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>it's music business, shit crazy, I'm gonna give me a job.

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<v Speaker 1>A wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So my dumb ass hung in there a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer and I got my solo deal. Once I got

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<v Speaker 2>my solo deal, I started to have to perform by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not used to that.

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<v Speaker 2>The stage fright when you are used to looking over

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<v Speaker 2>and see your family member and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it's me out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I'd be backstage a little debilitated, just

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<v Speaker 2>like stage fright will come on me like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I discovered one day that if I just took my

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<v Speaker 2>shoes off and went out on the stage. I relaxed,

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<v Speaker 2>almost like you felt at home. I felt at home.

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<v Speaker 2>And a byproduct was of that was women. Apparently I

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<v Speaker 2>must have had a good foot day or something and

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, look at his feet. I was like, oh, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>like this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll keep doing it because it makes me feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me flash forward. Great, I'm gonna flash forward

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<v Speaker 2>to something that I've reached. I told you I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go deep, something that I've just discovered, which you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably hipped to. You're so health conscious and YouTube. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's such a thing. It's called grounding and earthing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of this, yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, grounding is the science based upon the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the Earth is just one big battery full of

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<v Speaker 2>negative electrons. We as human beings, are basically electric beings.

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<v Speaker 2>We're full of positive electrons. But when we walk around

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<v Speaker 2>with shoes on all the time, especially rubber soul shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>we are insulating ourselves from those negative electrons, which balances

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<v Speaker 2>our body and reduces inflammation, makes us healthy, makes us

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<v Speaker 2>sleep better, makes sex more boili. So basically, I've since discovered,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't know back then. That shit just keeps

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<v Speaker 2>me healthy, It keeps me young, It makes me feel

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel like I'm twenty years younger than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>At least an hour day, I will walk around outside

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<v Speaker 2>barefoot in the dirt, in the sand and the grass.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, it's real ship, you know what. And and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about that, I used to always wonder why my.

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<v Speaker 3>Country cousins healthiest ship well, was so far ahead every

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<v Speaker 3>party elements.

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<v Speaker 1>They were faster than you. They were faster. It was

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<v Speaker 1>right right like they was driving. I was like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not right, how are you driving? Just dropping the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Broke bruh, you and me both because that where's your family?

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<v Speaker 2>From my mobile? Alabama?

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<v Speaker 3>I got Alabama, I got I got all all all

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<v Speaker 3>over Alabama, Birmingham specifically, I got Arkansas, little Rock all

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<v Speaker 3>through there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they all migrated. They Migras's how they got

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<v Speaker 1>to Milwauk into Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>But you are you are speaking the truth. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>would go down to Alabama and my other I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>ten years old, and my other ten year old cousins

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<v Speaker 2>be like driving, got girlfriends and.

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<v Speaker 1>They got everything. We're going to see these goods around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner you want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I ain't much nowhere, you can't go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>We get exactly the joke, but they was ready to

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<v Speaker 3>get to it. It was like and then I had

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<v Speaker 3>two goods.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, so, what you're saying with it, with the whole

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<v Speaker 6>barefoot thing, is that we shouldn't make jokes about the

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<v Speaker 6>little drunk white girls after the club.

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<v Speaker 2>We can still make fun of this drunk Let's keep

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<v Speaker 2>that funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering, man, how that all works. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's tap into the music. Man, Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the beginning, right, we like we like

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<v Speaker 1>to go to like the introduction of of you to

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<v Speaker 1>music and music to you. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like the complete where your old story.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean you can break it down in the pieces,

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<v Speaker 3>but the part where it's where you said you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where it claimed you because normally claimed you first.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you don't know what the gift is. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you have a gift. True, you were in a group.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're able to do things that you just think

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<v Speaker 3>you're able to do. And then there's a moment where

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<v Speaker 3>you recognize.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you really hit up. You really hit on

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<v Speaker 2>something right there. Because I remember as far back as

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember, you know, Milwaukee in grade school, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>Pith Street School and Capitol Drive, you know, something as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as music class. I just remember having an ability

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<v Speaker 2>to sing and understand music on a level that was

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<v Speaker 2>way above like the rest of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you did this, but because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to stick out and be weird, I acted

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<v Speaker 2>like I was on their level, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I don't I don't want too much attention

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<v Speaker 2>on me right now. It's like, you know, the music

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<v Speaker 2>teacher would tell us, okay, class, it's like here's the

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<v Speaker 2>scale or here's the song, and it's like I would

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<v Speaker 2>already be like five steps ahead of them, and little

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<v Speaker 2>me over here and Dondrell over here is like completely clueless,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like okay, I'm like I'm struggling too,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>That was me in sixth and seventh grade, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I was just kind of like staying here and then

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<v Speaker 3>really right right right right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost like this, Yeah, I played football.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you sing were you sing. I'm like, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I want to, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Because my cousin was the lead singer. My cousin Kisha,

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<v Speaker 3>was the one who was doing all the solos. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when I finally tried a solo, I tricked it

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<v Speaker 3>off really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I was like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>I do? She was like, you was off? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I went back into training. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Okay, So so you're starting there

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<v Speaker 1>and you're and and about what time is it?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is I mean, this is grade school. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I go home, like I'm I'm the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>of a group of five siblings, we're all musical, we

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<v Speaker 2>all sing. So that was the place. The whole house

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<v Speaker 2>from from my mom playing the piano. My dad didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really sing, but he had this extensive classical music collection.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would be in my dad's music collection listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Tchaikowsky and Brahms and Mozart, and then with my

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<v Speaker 2>sisters and my brother, we would sing. We would listen

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<v Speaker 2>to like the Silvers or the Carpenters, and we would

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<v Speaker 2>deconstruct the harmonies and like, you know, sing them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, before my voice changed, i'd have the soprano.

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<v Speaker 2>So Michael Jackson, Yeah, I was michae I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little Microjacks established that. So that's where music that's really

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<v Speaker 2>People ask me who's my biggest influence, My biggest influence

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<v Speaker 2>on my older siblings, because I've always equated music to

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<v Speaker 2>love because that's how we that's how we would have

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<v Speaker 2>fun together. That's how we would show each other our love,

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<v Speaker 2>like like making music. So but outside the house, it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep that

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<v Speaker 2>talent close to my vest because it comes off a

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<v Speaker 2>little too overpowering for people outside the family circle. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>then puberty happened. So I've always been like the nerdy

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I kind of still am. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been like the nerdy science fiction book reading, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>into writing my own little weird stories and making up

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<v Speaker 2>my own songs. And so I've always been that little kid,

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<v Speaker 2>even in like thirteen or fourteen, where I would stick

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, and like I said, I still wasn't singing

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<v Speaker 2>publicly in school. But I remember when puberty hit, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a singing competition, and nobody really knew I sung.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a singing competition in junior high school, and

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<v Speaker 2>my sisters told me, go ahead, Eric, get into the contest.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, I'm thirteen now, and my all

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<v Speaker 2>my siblings are beasts, and that's when I come home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>seventh grade, middle school. So I just grew up with

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<v Speaker 2>older siblings who literally could deconstruct the song and we

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<v Speaker 2>would put it back together. So I was at thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was dope. So I entered the contest. Nobody really

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<v Speaker 2>knew I could sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruh.

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<v Speaker 2>I sang Lionel Richie's truly I kill that ship. I

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<v Speaker 2>killed that ship. You know that's still a fro no offense, Linel,

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<v Speaker 2>But at thirteen, I probably sang that ship better than

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<v Speaker 2>you respected. But you respected Bruh. Can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>The next day at school there were two girls I

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<v Speaker 2>had crushes on that did not know I existed. They

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<v Speaker 2>were waiting at my locker the next morning. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something to this ship. Both boup.

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<v Speaker 1>Both up.

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky Stanton, Vicky Stanton, Laura Oldenburg.

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<v Speaker 1>Them oh vi VI Vicky Stanton, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>Oldenberg Oldenburg Oldenburg.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>You were early there too. You were early there too.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't learned about equal Effers is way later in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I know now where, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and from there, you know, from there it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like my cousin George, who was always like the musician,

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<v Speaker 2>the musician of the family. My George, cousin George played

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was like you. He was like, played

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<v Speaker 2>piano and he played the guitar. And it was just

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<v Speaker 2>dope and my cousin George and my sister Lisa and

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<v Speaker 2>I we started writing songs. Then I dropped out of

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<v Speaker 2>college UW Milwaukee, joined this band, and then we got

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<v Speaker 2>our first record deal, the one I told you about Benet,

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<v Speaker 2>me and my sister. That's dope too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So between time wise, when you guys get your first deal,

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<v Speaker 6>so when you get your deal and get your first

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<v Speaker 6>hit wreck, a lot of shit happened between that and

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<v Speaker 6>me having a solo deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the what's the time frame. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about we signed the Benet deal with EMI Capital in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two, Pluck from Milwaukee in Los Angeles, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was just culture shock man. That was yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love Milwaukee, but it's like you come

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<v Speaker 2>out to la In the early nineties, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole nother expansive universe, from musical like the community of

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<v Speaker 2>badass music dudes, to like the most beautiful women you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen in your life, to like people who are

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<v Speaker 2>the hell of a lot of bullshitters, but but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who are on a higher level of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>like talking about eating right and you know, you go

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<v Speaker 2>back home to Milwaukee and you just eat a vat

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<v Speaker 2>of pork. It's just you know, it's like salt pork.

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<v Speaker 2>You eat it, but come out here and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like higher level of taking care of you,

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<v Speaker 2>your mind and your body. So it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>culture shock all the way around.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ninety two. That record did not work out, as

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the industry has these stories where your first

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<v Speaker 2>management deal, your first record deal, it's like, well they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sort of put a single out but didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really put any money behind it, so we got dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>This was one of the hardest times in my life

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<v Speaker 2>because a few years prior my father died. My father

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<v Speaker 2>was a detective for the city of Milwaukee. So Dad died,

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend, Tammy Stouff, we became parents. We became parents

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<v Speaker 2>India short my daughter, India Shortly after I got dropped,

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy died in a car accident. So now I lost

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<v Speaker 2>my record deal. Dad's gone all of a sudden, single dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just trying to figure out, Wow, how am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to do this? Thank God, I have the

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<v Speaker 2>family I have because between my mom and my sisters

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<v Speaker 2>and my brother, they would let me like I could

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<v Speaker 2>take India. India was only fifteen months old, and my

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<v Speaker 2>mother did. So I have the most amazing family in

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<v Speaker 2>the world because I could, you know, if I had

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<v Speaker 2>to fly out to La to talk to some people

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<v Speaker 2>who were thinking about signing me. You know, as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>especially as a single parent, you need to know that

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<v Speaker 2>your children or your child is safe and taken care

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<v Speaker 2>of and loved. And I never had to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>that when I was out there trying to make the

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<v Speaker 2>dream happen. I basically got a gig in Milwaukee as

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant engineer at a recording studio on Fondilac, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I between George and this crazy ass dude who

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the baddest keyboards ever. Dmante you know Demante?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know Demante Posi? Nigga's bad anyway, He's from Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 2>Also met Demante and my cousin George during the off

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<v Speaker 2>hours at the at the recording studio that I was working.

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<v Speaker 2>They would let me use the studio to record demos.

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<v Speaker 2>So between me and George and Demante, we just started

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<v Speaker 2>writing all these songs, writing all these demos. That demo,

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<v Speaker 2>all those demos turned out to be my first album,

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<v Speaker 2>the first solo Eric Bene True to Myself album Nowhere,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing. Thank you, sir, crazy, thank you sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes's it's an incredible story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm riding with a girl through d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it side Boom? It might have been that's another beast.

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<v Speaker 1>I was upside. It might have been signed, She's a beast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been signed. You gotta hit this from

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really she played that, she played that femininity. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>ship and at that time, pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I like it. And I was like everything

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<v Speaker 3>for me was John p Key and Burrell, It was

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<v Speaker 3>Fraying Hammond and and then it was it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was all that, you know what I'm saying, so when

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<v Speaker 3>you tell me to listen to something like at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>I have every run in the book downloaded.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I lived my life. I run. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to verse, no first verse.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not gliss over that that you nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't just run, you just you kill it at

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<v Speaker 3>that time, Nigga, I have no verse. I'm gonna run

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<v Speaker 3>this hol of thame five minutes. So so if you

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<v Speaker 3>ain't doing that right, I don't want to get you're

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<v Speaker 3>not running through the whole song. And she started playing

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<v Speaker 3>this song and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Missing to the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>You was making the faces and ship right interesting right,

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<v Speaker 7>and the vocal was so clean and straight ahead, and

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, who's this again?

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<v Speaker 3>After she had already told you. And then and then,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you did something that we do in church.

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<v Speaker 3>Was about the three and a half close to four

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<v Speaker 3>minute mark.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a vamp. Okay, you let the band play

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute, and then you went into a vamp.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's this nineteen seventy ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, this niggas ba nigga vam. I was so

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<v Speaker 3>at that point, man, thank you you went into a vamp.

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<v Speaker 3>I was coming from yours. I said, your problem coming

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<v Speaker 3>from and then even I know we'll we'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get to the later in the two thousands, But

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<v Speaker 3>then you started going digging into your false settle with

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<v Speaker 3>the uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I cried sometimes sometimes yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That bothered me.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a shue with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I took I took it. I felt the person at okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because GEORGI said, I took that person because I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>thumb back, say let it. Why is this nigga, why

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<v Speaker 1>is this false settled? So clear it's been connected with me.

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<v Speaker 3>And and I hear you sing that on stage and

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't miss a no wow a no, And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a false settle that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You known for that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, no, literally not just a false sttle, right,

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<v Speaker 6>you're known for not missing, which is as guys who

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<v Speaker 6>we all sing, right, we've we've been around one thousands,

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<v Speaker 6>so you know where that comes. But not missing, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a different type of gift, right, That's just that's that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's just special. Like you talk to somebody, especially me

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<v Speaker 6>being from the baby Me and my brother was talking

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<v Speaker 6>about it and he's like, man, because he's the first

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<v Speaker 6>person to put me on to you, right, and he

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to go see you.

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<v Speaker 1>A Yoshi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yosh and he was like, nigga, he didn't miss.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, as singers, we all know what that means.

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<v Speaker 6>But I had to ask again. I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 6>you mean he didn't miss? That's a huge conference, Like

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't And you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know about this that comes from that comes from going

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<v Speaker 2>through the ranks, like like, okay, so I dropped out

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<v Speaker 2>of college, but my college was being in those shitty

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<v Speaker 2>clubs all over the Midwest, right having to it's a

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<v Speaker 2>drunk crowd. This nigga over here is about to start

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<v Speaker 2>a fight with this nigga. There's some something going over here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to like take command of this whole room,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna have to do it consistently, And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to do it for the first six

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<v Speaker 2>months I was in the band. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>honing process where a lot of artists today they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that honing process. They might they might be in

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<v Speaker 2>their lab in their base and they yeah, doing some beats,

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<v Speaker 2>put a couple of loops on it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>they got all kinds of technology. Catch your record and

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<v Speaker 2>catch a record, and then you put them on stage

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, nah, you didn't go through the process, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean they're not investing. They're not investing in

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<v Speaker 1>the process, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if there is the process, Is

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<v Speaker 2>there any reverence for it anymore? No, there should be,

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 2>there should be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't really think that we're like probably the

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<v Speaker 3>lasts who are who are looking for people who are

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<v Speaker 3>actually just just seized and seasoned in some type of growth,

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<v Speaker 3>that's some type of developments. Like it's taken us years

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<v Speaker 3>to find an artist, right because we're like, nah, but

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<v Speaker 3>they hot in they all time.

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<v Speaker 1>They got this record of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But you that fleeting, Like that's so fleeting. I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the things that I so appreciate y'all

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 2>telling me that that means a lot to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember a couple of times in my career, and as artists,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's always some level it thinks for me,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always some level of insecurity. But I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>I first got I first started doing my solo deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're doing the rounds at the radio stations and

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<v Speaker 2>Luther Vandross was just leaving an interview and Luther was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the type of dude where it's like, if I

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<v Speaker 2>know Luther is there, I at least want to just

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you. I don't I don't want to crowd

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I just want to say thank you. But

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Luther found out I was there, He's like, oh no, no, no, no,

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.959
<v Speaker 2>no no, you tell him to come here. When somebody

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 2>like Luther looks at you and say, you know what,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you're doing it right, you know, And that's all I needed.

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Luther looks at me, that's it. So it's like, if

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you thought I was dope before, that's probably when you

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>heard me go in the studio do that false little

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>let me show these niggas, you know. So it's like

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>when you get when somebody like that, like a Maurice

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 2>White or Luther Vandross or David Foster, that just makes

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 2>me want to, oh ship, if I thought I was

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>honing my craft before, I'm gonna have to like, I'm

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 2>really happy, I'm really going in deep now. So it's

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>those kinds of things that make me continue to strive

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to be better to this day.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the hunger doesn't go away, you know, the grind,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the hustle. Yeah, never never goes away.

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 6>So when you get that first hit record, right, because

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 6>thanks spoke about it a little bit, right, you know,

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 6>you put up on them with shoes off, was out,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, showing them sing something, showing

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<v Speaker 6>them something, and they're definitely showing out.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that influx?

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, you mean when you catch there, you catch

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>that r you fresh from Milwaukee, Yes, you're fresh from

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>your walk. You get a major hit record, and but.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't but you also don't get the run of

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 6>the meal hit record. You get a record that nobody's

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 6>heard before. You don't get the some producer was did

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 6>that record, and then your producer heard it and y'all

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 6>recreated and now you get that little cheek code hit.

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<v Speaker 6>You had a record that sets you apart from the gate, right.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a different it's a different level that's coming

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<v Speaker 6>your way. It's a it's a different kind of vibe

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<v Speaker 6>because back then.

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<v Speaker 2>There were like you said, I mean, when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about what I was doing back then, and what cats

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>like D'Angelo were doing back then, and like Maxwell were

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<v Speaker 2>doing back then, that was outside of the norm.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like Mashow was brushing his teeth right video,

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<v Speaker 6>Like it's like right brushing his teeth. They don't care

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<v Speaker 6>at all and they love it right right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just kind of like this feeling of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, being that kind of a creative person. The

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>people who I work with. When I'm in the lab

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and i've been, I've I like to go check in

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 2>on like how see how lots of people work. A

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people like to work like they like to

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 2>check out what's hot right now, like runk, what kick

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>sounds are hot right now? You know what's happening in

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the top ten. And I'm going to try to put

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>my own spin on that. But I've never really worked

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I've never really worked that way, even back then. I

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>always dig from a more intimate place, like even musically,

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>like I've never wanted to try to emulate the other

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>things that are happening out there. And when you work

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 2>like that, you're working in a bubble. At least I am.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You're working on this. No, I want to be cut

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 2>off from everything that's like top ten, top twenty on

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>the radio right now. I just want to be in

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like this little fortress of musical solitude with myself and

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>whoever I invite to come in there and create with

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<v Speaker 2>me all that to say, as we're doing that, we

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't really know how this is working like

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a motherfucker here, but I don't know how that's going

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to play out there because it's like so intimate to

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 2>us and we're like nerdy music heads. So that's kind

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of it was like I was surprised in a way.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised because we were signed to what I

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>was signed to Warner Brothers as a solo artist, and

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>they really did just leave me alone. They let me

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>just do my thing. And then when I turned the

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<v Speaker 2>record in there was a reaction like somebody just reinvented

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the wheel, and I was like, really was It was

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 2>just incredibly surprising because, like I said, I was grateful,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was at least it was affirming that I

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>felt like, Okay, I mean.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>And you had seen the bottom.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I had already had huge loss, personal loss in my life,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>my the mother of my daughter dying all of a sudden.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm a solo single father, trying to figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>next move. I was working at UPS. When I told

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you I was working at the studio, I was also

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>working at UPS. Uh, and working at the studio to

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>make you know, to make a little bread. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I saw the bottom and once I knew that,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you mean, I can win by just being completely

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>authentic in my appreciation for music, not the music industry,

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>but music. Yeah, I was like, Okay, I'm not I'm

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>not gonna switch it up.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. And that's a very unique situation.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 6>That's very as all of us has been in this

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 6>music business for so long to actually it's like getting

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 6>drafted to the right team because one or worked for you,

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 6>but universal may.

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Have not you know what I mean, or im I

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:04.959
<v Speaker 2>didn't you know what I mean?

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 6>So it's like in that space man, that that in itself,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 6>and you know, we try to give that type of

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 6>information when we when we do these interviews for people

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 6>that are trying to get in the music business. People

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 6>are in the in the business to understand, like this

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 6>ship just don't happen the way you want it at

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 6>that time, and you got to keep pushing.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>You got to keep pushing until you find that situation

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that makes the most sense for you exactly. But we

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>got off of the influx that came with this.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 3>You you.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm from that area.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't gonna let you around by the way around

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 6>baptized didn't.

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I tell you here.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't believe this, but actually, now

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that you now that you know me, you can leave it.

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I've always been the nerdy dude, like I've always

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>been the if it wasn't for music, if it wasn't

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>for me being on a stage and singing like my game,

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like my just step up to a girl game was

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 2>was garbage, Like I had no idea I need it,

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know I didn't need it because you

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, So okay, So then you got

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>this guy who's basically uh looking at women feeling like

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't really have that much of a shot, to

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>being on stage having a hit song and having them

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>literally come to me. It was overwhelming. And I'm going

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>to say this, that's one of the most like if

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>you're not ready for that kind of attention, you will die, yes,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>or things around you will because it isn't all And

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't use the word awesome like well, it can

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>be great, but it is. It is an overwhelming uh power.

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And if you are an insecure person who always idolized

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>women but didn't know how to talk to him, and

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you're the guy that they're coming

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>at to talk to you. That could be a very

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>dangerous thing. And there is a process where, you know,

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>for some of us, it takes a year or two

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>or ten or two.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Where you feel me where it's like I'm in that

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 3>ten fifteen years you just jumped another.

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I need a little bit more.

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Time to real this thing in right, because it's like,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I can have all of it.

0:31:55.520 --> 0:32:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Are you fucking kidding me? It was like like, speak on, man,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>come on, you stuttered Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Maryland.

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, l A, now now I gotta I gotta taste.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>When I went on tour with Genuine, it was it

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>was a it was a heavy taste.

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>That was it was.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 3>It was the taste that changed my life. No, no, listen,

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I definitely yes, you are correcting that, man. I know,

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and Genuine would say to me, this is cool. I

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>know you having the time of your life, but it

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>ain't nothing like when it's you and I didn't believe

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm never leaving you.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sing.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 6>You still dowhere if guy is on stage and we

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 6>got to show that he finds.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>A way to sing back to get let's do So

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.959
<v Speaker 3>When you get with you, but then when it when

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 3>it listen when I watched, when I watched, maybe I

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 3>deserve start charting and me going from clubs like you

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 3>know what was one hundred people to a thousand people,

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>to seven hundred people to a thousand people, and then

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to co headlining radio shows and arena's and London.

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<v Speaker 1>To Chris and and and Nally you know and and

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Jah rule Jesus Christ, you have.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 3>To be all the R and B shows all because

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 3>my name was Tank and so sometimes they wouldn't even

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>listen to my music.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Just saw that's hilarious record.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so so so like you take you, I just

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I was dropped in a church kid. Still I'm still trying.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's still biblical for me, it's still spiritual. Lord,

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>If you just guide me tonight, I'll let me.

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Just won't do it.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Lord, if you just let me get this tonight, I'm

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 4>not gonna do it. No mo Like, Lord, please guide

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 4>me tonight. And Lord, why did why did her ask

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 4>have to look like that?

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Lord said?

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Lord made you did that, you made you did this,

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and I honestly was not. No, you were not. I

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was not.

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>There is no man and and people people don't understand this, bro,

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like you get it. There is no man on this

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>planet who works at home depot or who's working at

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Wells Fargo right now. If you throw him in this situation,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>if you just throw him in the whatever you want situation,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>it will kill him. It will suck the life out

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>of them. And so it's like you have to be

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in a certain mental emotional preparedness, which I was not.

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>But like I said, it will take some years and

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to live with.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 8>Some consequences, some consequences, some losses and losses, some consequences,

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 8>and it's.

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, wow, I need to reevaluate a lot of shit.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>So but this, you can't be ready for that.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 3>And and I think on the other side of that,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>the the upbringing and all of these things, and having

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 3>the family structure that we had prepared us in a

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 3>different way to where.

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>We would be able to survive. Right, you know what

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Because a lot of people, a lot of

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>people just don't know. And and for you, you did

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it on a very public stage. Right, because you know

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>what you were involved in.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's like anytime it's on a public stays, it's

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>a million it's not only magnified a million times, but

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 2>there's a certain uh, there's a narrative that they want

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>to tell to you know. Now it's clickbait, but it's

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>like to sell magazines to do this, So things respawn

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a certain way, and then on the very tiny nucleus

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>of what's happening on the inside, there are details that

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>no one else knows and maybe I'll never share, but

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like it ain't mistakes were made. I've taken accountability.

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>So what I've done, I've grown. But from the celebrity,

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 2>there's any celebrity out there who's dealing with that relationship

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>and the press ship, that's.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's a hard thing. And it's even it's

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.479
<v Speaker 1>even harder now with social media.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, it's even harder now, right because back

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 6>then you just have to try to see you and

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 6>take a picture of you and then't write whatever they wanted.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You get tired of it or they get tired of it.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 6>And now you make your own and you sorry typing ship,

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 6>and now you're like maybe I should Yeah, maybe I

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 6>should have.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Just I'm a delete that right, they've already out. He

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>used to call me. You'll call me about seven in

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the morning. What the fuck? Take what did you? What

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do?

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 2>What's her name?

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Seven? Five?

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Saying some can you stop this on line?

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 3>This?

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I said, I said that said the same way.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 6>But I get that, I said, Tank, what you gotta

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 6>realize a lot of times you're talking to ghost. True,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 6>you're literally talking to go like, yes, are there some

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 6>people that are real people that are going at you?

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 6>But sometimes it's just accounts that are made to literally

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 6>absolutely get a.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Rise out of you. Well, what come on out, come

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>on now, doubt. Can you just stop on Instagram? Can

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you do it for me for two weeks?

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Please?

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>No, they have to hear from me. That's just not easy.

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I have this outlook on life. Mistakes that might be

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 2>a little different because granted, in the moment, they feel

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>like the exact wrong thing you've allowed to happen, or

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you participated in happening, or that has happened to you.

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>But in my fifty four years on this earth, I

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>am fifty four.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, I did not know that nigga, I

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm buying no more shoes. Yeah.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Man, what I've learned is mistakes, all of them. And

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna sound like some cliche. You see you

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 2>on the Instagram with a lion in the background of

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>some sh sterc but from.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Some nigga, that's just a terrible human, right. It's probably horrible.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>For the girls I'm talking about some certain people whatever

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>is it's a terrible human right, or the Instagram models

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 2>with the ass and it be like.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Spiritual, you know, it's like, you know, I've got to

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>grow foot.

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>To be like to be like only God, you know. Anyway,

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So what the what was I saying?

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, mistakes, mistakes, God?

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, great, I got to use the mistakes for

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>me have all been an opportunity to grow. So yes,

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I have made mistakes in my life, and I feel

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think it goes back. I think it goes

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 2>back to something something you hit on the parenting thing

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 2>my mom and dad instilled in me a long time ago,

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>like you are going to make a lot of mistakes

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 2>in your life. What do you do with those mistakes?

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>What do you do with those traumatic events in your life?

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>So when I have stumbled. When I've fallen, or when

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I've made mistakes in business or in my personal life,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I take a moment to fall back and see, Okay, God,

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 2>what was the lesson you were trying to teach me

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 2>with this one? Sometimes those lessons are obvious as hell,

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes are not so obvious, But every time it happens,

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it's an opportunity to be a better version of yourself.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>My first record deal, to answer a question that deals

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>with more professional situation, my first record deal that I

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>did with my sister Beney. It was an incredible opportunity.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 2>It was two kids being plucked out of Milwaukee, coming

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 2>to La seeing things and experiencing things that I only

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 2>saw on Magnum PI and stuff like that.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, but.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>The record label didn't really give us autonomy, didn't really

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 2>give us control to make all of the music we

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted to make, to pick the producers that we necessarily

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to work with, or at least we felt like

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say that, because there was a lot of

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 2>energy on my part where I felt like I doubted myself.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Enough is that twenty something year old kid who well,

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I certainly can't know so if they're telling me I

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>should work with this artist and that artist, and I

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 2>guess I should. That was a mistake. That was a mistake,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and that's a mistake that every young artist needs to

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 2>know right now. The reason why they own your shit

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 2>right now, Young artists out there, the reason why you're

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>geting and the attention you're getting is because you're dope.

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Because the creative decisions you make are dope.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Led you here.

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't doubt that, you know, like, lead with that. Don't

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 2>let somebody else who's been on their own journey and

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 2>have seen their own assent to fame and fortune tell

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 2>you this is how I did it, so you need

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to do it. You need to do it like this. Look,

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 2>some of those lessons that they bestow on you are

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>appropriate and you can use that, but their path is

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 2>not your path. So I think that's probably one of

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 2>the biggest lessons that I learned. I think I learned

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 2>early from that mistake. That's why when I had an

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to do the solo album in ninety six, the

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Eric Benet record, I was like, look, okay, we can

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 2>do this record deal thing, but I have to be

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>in charge of everything from the way I dress to

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the way I look to the songs on the album

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I told you, like the whole album. My first album

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 2>was like the demo between my cousin George and Demonte

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and me just met. So I need to be in control.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 2>To the point where I named my first album true

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 2>to Myself because I had been through the whole Uh

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the alternative.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I could only imagine Eric coming out as like

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 6>the fifth member of Joasy with like.

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>The type of that was.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, it's not you, you are somebody tried to get

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 2>me in, like a nigga was that to get me

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>in like a three boy band group where it was

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>me I was to singing nigga and it was like

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>this dark nigga from from like Nigeria or something, and

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>it was a white nigga who was singing whig and

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>it was like I almost did it. And this was

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 2>before my first record deal.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I was in the meeting with

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the two guys.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>And come on, bro, this is our chance. You know,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>if you don't like it, you know, we could blow

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>up and then you can do your own thing. I

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, but I don't know the same for me,

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>So you're absolutely right. Man, it's like, you gotta, you gotta,

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be true to yourself. You gotta be true

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 2>to yourself. You have to be honest enough with yourself

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to know your gut, to know your soul, so that

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>when something doesn't vibrate right with you, you are the

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>first to know and and and act upon that. No

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>matter how old I get, I'm still that hungry, young

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 2>creative dude from Milwaukee. No matter what happened. Shout shout

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>out to Milwaukee. Thanks, hey, Wisconsin came through, didn't they

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 2>with that orange? Hold up?

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Bow it up? You know what?

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's okay, movie star writer all of that.

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Let's pivot to that because you know, I don't really

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 3>do a whole lot of politics.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 9>You know sometimes and listen you in between you and

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 9>d L you, Oh my god, yeah, out there.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the old man. That's the old man

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>in me.

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 1>You are out there.

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 2>The old man ship is real because once you get

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to a certain age, it's like, let me just say

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you are saying it. I remember when I first started

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 2>doing it. My management was like, yeah, you know, that's

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 2>how I started saying. You know, we really respect that

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to voice your opinion, but we got to

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 2>remember there's there are people out there who like your

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 2>music who aren't exactly on the same political that man,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about a damn you know ship, damn Hitler

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>starter kit.

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Here's what I say, it's like, it is a double

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 3>ed short right in terms of the political part of it.

0:45:54.600 --> 0:46:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Once you start dabbling into that place, you can you

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 3>can feel the shift of people who were there for

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 3>the music then knowing discovering too much about you, right,

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 3>that makes them either go way left or way right

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 3>with you. But you're right, you're and you're out, you're

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 3>outspoken in terms of you know, in terms of the

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>political uh, in terms of your political status.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I think once you hit fifty, what it is like

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 2>any any whatever like filter I had left that ship,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that ship just you.

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Know, because you were you were attacking who was you?

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Who was you?

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 3>You know you said something, you said something running, ain't

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 3>singing and if it's in insane you know because you

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and you young niggas, you're putting the whole lot of

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 3>we grew up on you man doing that man attacking

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 3>the kids, saying like who was attacking the king?

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>At some point we're gonna have to stop.

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 10>Eric, you ain't nobody when I was growing up, when

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 10>I was in the studio, which I hate that.

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, Eric, come on, man, stop there people, This

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>new ain't ship. You put the time on it.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>But it was like it was like you were just

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you were being honest about how you felt

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 3>about it. But you know what I mean, Like I

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 3>think I was.

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Having one of those moments where hey, I love like

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm one of the biggest fans of like

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 2>dope runs and people who can run.

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, I don't know.

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like one of those things where before

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 2>the run, there needs to be the melody, Like can

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 2>we at least know what the melody is before you start?

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 11>Like and I know what I said, and I agree

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 11>with you, but they had to say it. But no,

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 11>there because because because I grew up, Yeah, you said.

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>On Kim Barell.

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 2>But see that's it's almost.

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 3>So guess what I needed, Like she she didn't. She

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't make a song that was like a straight ahead

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 3>or a commercial thing until way later.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I know this sounds like bullshit, but it's almost like

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that's different because because Kim Barell, Kim Barell is a

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 2>whole nother being.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.959
<v Speaker 1>It's not different because I needed what she was doing.

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I needed it.

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. I'm not disagreeing with you. Like

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 2>these young nigga like kim Barell, probably.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's like.

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like these young niggas would hear a Kim Barell

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and be like, Oh, that's what I need to do,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, no, before Kim Barell was I don't know,

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean, I met Kim Barell. She's a

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>wonderful person, but I don't know like her whole story,

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>but I would imagine before she could do all that,

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 2>at some point she had the base, like she could

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 2>do a melody for sure, so and she had to

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 2>evolve to that. But I think one of the frustrating

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 2>things for me is like young singers would see the

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Kimbarell and be like.

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, and that's what the song is, that's all it is.

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 3>But as I was able to grab the pieces, well,

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>clearly you can use it and use it in spacessary

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 3>and that's.

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>What the beauty of running like you you well you're

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a songwriter, you're a producer, so you know construction of

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 2>along the melody, learn yes, yes.

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 3>To learn to stop singing versus myself. You know what

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, like, Oh, they'll never be able to do this,

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Like that was my mentality when I went to the studio.

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>They're going to be like when they can't sing, like

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 3>maybe I deserve was like in my mind, my worst

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.280
<v Speaker 3>song vocally one of my biggest.

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and I didn't understand why until fifteen years later.

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Was that kind of stuff is incredible to me because

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel the same way like with some

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 2>of my biggest songs. For some of those songs where

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's interesting how this works. It's like you can

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 2>be in the studio and you can have some song

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that you feel like is a masterpiece and you just

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 2>have to put no every every box of that song.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no no no, that wasn't right.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to can we can I bring the can

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the guitar play come back to the studio because he

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I wanted him to glisten on this, you know. So

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like you can create this masterpiece and people will

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 2>hear it and be like wow, that's dope. Okay, let

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:33.879
<v Speaker 2>me hear another one. And then you play a song

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 2>where you was in the studio for like four minutes throwaway. Yeah,

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:41.839
<v Speaker 2>you can be in a song where it's like, okay,

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:43.879
<v Speaker 2>we were just vibing on this, and then I put

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 2>some words on this motherfucker and it's like, oh shit,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the one.

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I'm a story of mine, the story

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 3>of my career right A song Please Don't Go have

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 3>been played for numerous artists foof album whose albums I've

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 3>worked on. I was like, I got this one thing

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 3>right here playing it's cool. I'm in Glenwood Studios working

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 3>on uh, working on tex Club and pain and I

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 3>got one day extra. I finished all the songs I

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 3>wanted to release, said something here.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>They was like.

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 3>They was like, well, you got one more day. If

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 3>you want to do something, you do something. I was like, okay,

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 3>they got good cookies and ship hang out at the studio, chill,

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna record this one track. One.

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I got this one track. I'm just recorded.

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Lonnie, my guy, Lonnie he call, He's like, he's like,

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 3>what you working on teas. I was like, I'm just

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 3>working on this song right here. Like he's like, let

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 3>me get some of that. Bridge was like absolutely. It

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 3>was one hundred percenter into the bridge, so he puts

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 3>a bridge down. I sing the bridge. I'm like, I'm

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 3>just turn it in with the rest of them. Turned

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.320
<v Speaker 3>the song in and it was please don't go. And

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<v Speaker 3>they called me two days later, nigger you did it

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<v Speaker 3>the street guy, nigga, you did that ship nigg And

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<v Speaker 3>I started naming every other song, Oh you like that

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 3>ship right there, and they're like nah. I said, oh,

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I know what you want you talk about. You talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that one because I put the song NA not

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<v Speaker 3>that with nigga, Nigga, Please don't go. I said, what right, Nigga?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that snad? I said, are you sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I haven't been out in five years. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been at war. Yeah, we're in rec company

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<v Speaker 3>for five years. And they're like, this is a song

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I don't I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that after five years of being absent, that this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is where we go. We don't start with this, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like this, yes we do, right, Yes we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Round Records I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the same story. So it had been a

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<v Speaker 2>minute since I went through this whole thing. With Warner

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers where I you know, we did A Day in

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<v Speaker 2>the Life and that was a big record for me.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I did this other record, another album called

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<v Speaker 2>Better and Better, but they rejected my album, so the

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<v Speaker 2>whole album. So I'm going to the record label and

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, y'all don't really get this album. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>will you let me leave the label? Will you let

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<v Speaker 2>me out at my deal?

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Nope?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Will you give me like a budget to go

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<v Speaker 2>in and do some more shit like if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like Nope. So basically I'm just sitting. I'm just sitting

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of years. They wouldn't let me out,

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't give me a budget to do anything else.

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.719
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm back home just vibing some songs with

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>my dudes. Ultimately I got another I got a green

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 2>lid to do another record. And we were in the

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 2>in my promotion man's room, Ken Wilson, you know, come

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 2>on now, yes, my job, my god. So we're listening

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to all these songs trying to figure out, like what's

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the single. And we were listening we had a couple

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 2>of dope joys, so yeah, yeah, man, you can have

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 2>man man dope ship on that look. But that's all.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I got this other thing, but you know

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not a thing already, shut that down. No, no, no, nobody,

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 2>this is something new that I was like this other thing.

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 2>It's probably not a single, but I mean I played

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 2>for you. Maybe we put it on the album for

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese release, like Jeffards bonus track or some ship.

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Like Nigga, I played the song Ken Wilson, Nigga, that

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 2>that motherfucker right there, Nigga, that's your first thing. It

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 2>was You're the only one, wow right, that you play

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 2>as your throwaway?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I thought it was just like, yeah, I thought

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought because when we wrote You're the only One,

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was one of those like throwback to

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:53.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole vibe we were doing like a

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 2>seventies throwback thing, and I was like, I don't know

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 2>people ready for that right now. It's probably just gonna

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.080
<v Speaker 2>be like a cool vibe on the album. Can It

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, Nigga, that was the vibe, that ship right there, Nigga,

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're smoking, Nigga. So yeah, and that

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 2>was that was number one for like a couple more

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:11.439
<v Speaker 2>number one.

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You got toast the number.

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Boy.

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>It was got a lot of my money. We have

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a part of the show. Okay, right, he can do it.

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 1>He can definitely. What is it?

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Does it involve calistenics or doing push up?

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, okay, it involves talking that talk, so it's

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 6>called I ain't saying on that m.

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Hm, whoa No, listen, listen, listen, listen.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 6>It can be funny or fucked up. Are both funny

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:55.879
<v Speaker 6>and fun up your story? But you do not say

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 6>the names of the other participants in the story. But

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 6>you give a non be like, oh you talking about that?

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Could have been.

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.879
<v Speaker 2>I ain't saying, I ain't saying. Okay mm hmm.

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know I know I didn't prep you for this.

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>You just not. We like to do it on the spot.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>We like to do on the spot. You like to

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>get it honest uge.

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Let me see now in my memory, I'm you know,

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing like the fucking don't say that. They don't know.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 2>They don't know who that is that ship either. No, yeah,

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 2>we're swiping. I'm swiping right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in my brain. Old hell, let's see, no name,

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>no face, no case.

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Here's that I'm trying to think it don't fit. I

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 2>ain't saying no name.

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Y'all edit this ship. No we wrong you the ben man.

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you need, whatever you need.

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Jamie told us, don't any ship custs us out.

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to adder some ship. Okay, okay, okay.

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I ain't said no names. I mean it's I mean

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 2>just in the spirit of the conversation and being from Milwaukee,

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and you know Milwaukee gets cold as ship. Mm hm.

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Ah.

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Somebody was uh this was I used to before I

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>actually moved to LA. I kept my I kept the

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 2>place in Milwaukee for a while. And uh there was

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 2>an artist. Oh my god, I can't believe I'm telling

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 2>you burdening ham. If I didn't have like three glasses

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>of wine, I probably wouldn't say this man hold up.

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 2>So there was somebody. There was this female artist who

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of vibing. By the way, full disclosure,

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>was not married. This was like Eric in Milwaukee, just

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 2>like being at the Milwaukee BNA, being at BNA. There

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 2>was this artist in Milwaukee and we, uh, we had stayed.

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I forgot how we got each other's information, but we

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 2>stayed in touch. And she was like, I'm in Milwaukee,

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 2>we should have some drinksoo, we went out. My god,

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:35.439
<v Speaker 2>this sounds horrible. This sounds horrible, man, but it's really

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:41.439
<v Speaker 2>not that bad. So we went out, you know, east

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>side of Milwaukee. It's all kind of dope little bars

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and dope pizza joints, and were one drink after another

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's cold as ship. I think it was probably like.

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It was it was. It was.

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 2>It was either December or January in Milwaukee. So you know,

0:58:54.920 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that's no way, no joke. So we are, we're drinking,

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>we're eating, and as we're drinking and eating, we're getting

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot more touchy philly with the laughs, the laughs,

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the lingering hands are lingering longer and boom boom boom.

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 5>And then.

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 2>We're both drunk, which this is everything about the story

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 2>is horrible because because I'm drunk in the bar with

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this person and now I'm gonna I'm like where you're

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 2>saying what what? Held are you saying?

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm just driving.

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not drunk. Incredibly irresponsible. So we're in the car

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and she says we're driving past esther Brook Park. She

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 2>says streaking. I'm like streaking, Yeah, let's do it. So

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like one o'clock in the morning, it's probably like

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Speaker 2>eight degrees outside.

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Drunk as hell.

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea.

1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Pull over, Oh my god, pull.

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:07.479
<v Speaker 8>Over as the Brook Park in the parking lot, looking ship,

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 8>we takeing off our clothes. We run through Estherbrook Park

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:16.840
<v Speaker 8>one o'clock in the morning, butt ass naked, ended up

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 8>in the bushes, and that's where I'll leave the.

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Bushes eight degrees you are wow?

1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever hear about the news run in Milwaukee?

1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 1>This this is me say.

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot a lot of crazy white boyfriends

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 2>in Milwaukee. So they got this are they used to?

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they do it anymore? But on

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>New Year's Eve, you got the Polar Bears, and they

1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 2>jump into the Polar Bears, y'all. They don't know what

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 2>the Polar Bears is. It's a bunch of crazy ass

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:58.960
<v Speaker 2>white people in Milwaukee. On New Year's Eve, they will

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 2>strip down to their swimsuits and jump into sub zero water,

1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 2>freezing ice water for whatever reason. I don't know. But anyway,

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 2>some other homies in mind, some of them I went

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to college with. But some of them were just like

1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 2>crazy ass white dudes. Like I would go have drinks

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:18.440
<v Speaker 2>with every year they would do the nude run. You

1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:22.200
<v Speaker 2>would run from like River West all the way to

1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the lakefronts. But as NICKI what, yes, So you would

1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 2>do the nude run and you would ultimately end up

1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:36.440
<v Speaker 2>at this public swimming pool that of course was closed,

1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and then it would turn into.

1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:39.160
<v Speaker 1>They were break into the swim.

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I did the nude run in Milwaukee once.

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like you do more.

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Probably probably the nude run Milwaukee.

1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I did it like one time.

1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I know I was lying. You could tell I was

1:01:57.160 --> 1:02:01.160
<v Speaker 2>lying right every year like new Road.

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 1>This niggas wilf Ferro didn't mean that's Frank the tenth

1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:14.440
<v Speaker 1>right here? Why is the gentleman? This has been Everybody

1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Podcast with our brother Eric Bennay. He name name, name name,

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't even be money money