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Speaker 1: R and b's Money.

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Speaker 2: Child.

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Speaker 3: We are the authorities.

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Speaker 4: R and B.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? People?

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Speaker 3: You have just tuned into the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tank, this is Jay Valentine, and we are the

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Speaker 3: authorities on R and B music and in the building

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Speaker 3: all the way from mell Walkee mail town.

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Speaker 1: Huh anything with mail letter mail do my brother from

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Speaker 1: another mother.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the insight man waiting to come up in this.

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Speaker 3: Listen this. We want to this. We want to kick

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Speaker 3: this thing off the right way. Okay, we want to

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Speaker 3: kick this off the right.

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Speaker 1: In honor, yes, okay, in honor of Okay.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 3: First of all, are you all of a sudden organic? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden? Are you in touch with the

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Speaker 3: earth people? All of a sudden? You? Wait, listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you. Started this ship there was a man, yeah, walking.

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Speaker 2: Barefoot, barefoot.

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Speaker 3: He had already had sea shells attached the strings and ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we was trying to figure out how is

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Speaker 1: he doing this? Is he Listen?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you every girl I knew everyone

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. I was like, no shoes up.

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Speaker 2: I love Eric B.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at my temple and was like, still represent

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Speaker 1: we are not wearing shoes.

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Speaker 2: With no shoes, I'm gonna get rid of my heir.

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Speaker 1: Jesus is here man, Jesus ey thing.

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Speaker 5: It was every nay, Lenny Kraviss Maxwell, a very small

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Speaker 5: group of elite organic men.

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Speaker 2: We all smell like that. You back then, some of

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Speaker 2: the ladies like, remember he would be on Venice Beach

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Speaker 2: and the nigga be selling. I got some portunity for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see this, he's been doing this, so you said

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Speaker 3: some money eventually eventually.

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Speaker 1: Now y'all come in the terms.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got your feet now you now you now

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Speaker 3: you're not now you hold he's been doing it and

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Speaker 3: the women have been going.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Yes, answer your question.

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Speaker 1: Please do that.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the bare feet thing. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Was that on Was that on purpose?

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Speaker 3: Like did you know going into this like I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give them something, something different, I'm gonna give them something vulnerable,

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Speaker 3: something you know what I'm saying a different kind of

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Speaker 3: with my feet out, I'm comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you about that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a little surface with it, then I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go deep.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So when I was first signed back in nineteen Hendres

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Speaker 2: and Hum, it was me and my sister. We were

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Speaker 2: called Bennet. We were first. My first record deal was

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Speaker 2: with E and My Records, and so you know, we

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Speaker 2: came up in Milwaukee. We did like the clubs we

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Speaker 2: would do, like the obscure cities in Michigan and Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And then we got our record deal. And I was

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Speaker 2: always used to looking to my left and seeing my

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Speaker 2: so good. My sister was like, baby brother, you go ahead,

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Speaker 2: it's music business, shit crazy, I'm gonna give me a job.

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Speaker 1: A wow.

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Speaker 2: So my dumb ass hung in there a little bit

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Speaker 2: longer and I got my solo deal. Once I got

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Speaker 2: my solo deal, I started to have to perform by myself.

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Speaker 1: I was not used to that.

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Speaker 2: The stage fright when you are used to looking over

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Speaker 2: it's me out there.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was like I'd be backstage a little debilitated, just

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Speaker 2: I discovered one day that if I just took my

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Speaker 2: almost like you felt at home. I felt at home.

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Speaker 2: And a byproduct was of that was women. Apparently I

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Speaker 2: must have had a good foot day or something and

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Speaker 1: Oh, look at his feet. I was like, oh, y'all

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Speaker 1: like this shit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll keep doing it because it makes me feel great.

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Speaker 2: So let me flash forward. Great, I'm gonna flash forward

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Speaker 2: to something that I've reached. I told you I was

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Speaker 2: gonna go deep, something that I've just discovered, which you're

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Speaker 2: probably hipped to. You're so health conscious and YouTube. But

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Speaker 2: there's such a thing. It's called grounding and earthing.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of this, yes?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So basically, grounding is the science based upon the fact

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Speaker 2: that the Earth is just one big battery full of

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Speaker 2: negative electrons. We as human beings, are basically electric beings.

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Speaker 2: We're full of positive electrons. But when we walk around

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Speaker 2: with shoes on all the time, especially rubber soul shoes,

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Speaker 2: we are insulating ourselves from those negative electrons, which balances

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Speaker 2: our body and reduces inflammation, makes us healthy, makes us

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Speaker 2: sleep better, makes sex more boili. So basically, I've since discovered,

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Speaker 2: which I didn't know back then. That shit just keeps

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Speaker 2: me healthy, It keeps me young, It makes me feel

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Speaker 2: makes me feel like I'm twenty years younger than I am.

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Speaker 2: At least an hour day, I will walk around outside

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Speaker 2: barefoot in the dirt, in the sand and the grass.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, it's real ship, you know what. And and

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Speaker 1: thinking about that, I used to always wonder why my.

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Speaker 3: Country cousins healthiest ship well, was so far ahead every

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Speaker 1: They were faster than you. They were faster. It was

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Speaker 1: right right like they was driving. I was like, you're

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Speaker 1: not right, how are you driving? Just dropping the car.

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Speaker 2: Broke bruh, you and me both because that where's your family?

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Speaker 2: From my mobile? Alabama?

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Speaker 3: I got Alabama, I got I got all all all

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Speaker 3: over Alabama, Birmingham specifically, I got Arkansas, little Rock all

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Speaker 1: And then they all migrated. They Migras's how they got

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Speaker 2: But you are you are speaking the truth. Like we

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Speaker 2: would go down to Alabama and my other I'd be

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Speaker 2: ten years old, and my other ten year old cousins

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Speaker 2: be like driving, got girlfriends and.

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Speaker 1: They got everything. We're going to see these goods around

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Speaker 1: the corner you want to go.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I ain't much nowhere, you can't go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: We get exactly the joke, but they was ready to

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Speaker 3: get to it. It was like and then I had

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Speaker 3: two goods.

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Speaker 6: Like, so, what you're saying with it, with the whole

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Speaker 6: barefoot thing, is that we shouldn't make jokes about the

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Speaker 6: little drunk white girls after the club.

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Speaker 2: We can still make fun of this drunk Let's keep

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, man, how that all works. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's tap into the music. Man, Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the beginning, right, we like we like

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Speaker 1: to go to like the introduction of of you to

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Speaker 1: like the complete where your old story.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean you can break it down in the pieces,

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Speaker 3: but the part where it's where you said you know,

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Speaker 3: where it claimed you because normally claimed you first.

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Speaker 1: Right, you don't know what the gift is. You don't

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Speaker 1: know you have a gift. True, you were in a group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're able to do things that you just think

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you really hit up. You really hit on

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Speaker 2: something right there. Because I remember as far back as

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Speaker 2: I can remember, you know, Milwaukee in grade school, sixty

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Speaker 1: And what I would do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you did this, but because I

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't I don't want too much attention

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Speaker 2: already be like five steps ahead of them, and little

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Speaker 2: isn't that weird?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: That was me in sixth and seventh grade, and so

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Speaker 3: I was just kind of like staying here and then

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Speaker 2: It was almost like this, Yeah, I played football.

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Speaker 3: Like you sing were you sing. I'm like, right, I

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Speaker 3: Because my cousin was the lead singer. My cousin Kisha,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, how do

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Speaker 1: I do? She was like, you was off? You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I went back into training. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Okay, So so you're starting there

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Speaker 1: and you're and and about what time is it?

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Speaker 2: So this is I mean, this is grade school. And

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Speaker 2: then when I go home, like I'm I'm the youngest

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Speaker 2: of a group of five siblings, we're all musical, we

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Speaker 2: from from my mom playing the piano. My dad didn't

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Speaker 2: So I would be in my dad's music collection listening

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Speaker 2: to like the Silvers or the Carpenters, and we would

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Speaker 2: I you know, before my voice changed, i'd have the soprano.

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Speaker 2: So Michael Jackson, Yeah, I was michae I was a

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Speaker 2: People ask me who's my biggest influence, My biggest influence

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Speaker 2: love because that's how we that's how we would have

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Speaker 2: like like making music. So but outside the house, it

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Speaker 2: was almost like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep that

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Speaker 2: talent close to my vest because it comes off a

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Speaker 2: then puberty happened. So I've always been like the nerdy

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Speaker 2: into writing my own little weird stories and making up

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Speaker 2: my own songs. And so I've always been that little kid,

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Speaker 2: even in like thirteen or fourteen, where I would stick

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Speaker 2: publicly in school. But I remember when puberty hit, there

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Speaker 2: There was a singing competition in junior high school, and

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Speaker 2: my sisters told me, go ahead, Eric, get into the contest.

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Speaker 2: And keep in mind, I'm thirteen now, and my all

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Speaker 2: I sang Lionel Richie's truly I kill that ship. I

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Speaker 2: Do you know Demante Posi? Nigga's bad anyway, He's from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Also met Demante and my cousin George during the off

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Speaker 1: I'm riding with a girl through d C.

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Speaker 2: Was it side Boom? It might have been that's another beast.

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Speaker 1: I was upside. It might have been signed, She's a beast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really she played that, she played that femininity. Oh

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Speaker 3: That's how I like it. And I was like everything

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Speaker 1: That's how I lived my life. I run. I don't

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Speaker 2: Let's not gliss over that that you nigga.

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Speaker 3: You don't just run, you just you kill it at

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Speaker 3: that time, Nigga, I have no verse. I'm gonna run

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Speaker 1: Missing to the thing.

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Speaker 7: You was making the faces and ship right interesting right,

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Speaker 3: After she had already told you. And then and then,

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Speaker 1: You did a vamp. Okay, you let the band play

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's this nineteen seventy ship.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this niggas ba nigga vam. I was so

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Speaker 3: at that point, man, thank you you went into a vamp.

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Speaker 3: I was coming from yours. I said, your problem coming

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Speaker 2: I cried sometimes sometimes yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That bothered me.

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Speaker 2: I took a shue with that.

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Speaker 1: I took I took it. I felt the person at okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: And and I hear you sing that on stage and

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Speaker 1: You known for that?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, literally not just a false sttle, right,

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Speaker 6: you're known for not missing, which is as guys who

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Speaker 6: that's just special. Like you talk to somebody, especially me

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Speaker 2: Yosh and he was like, nigga, he didn't miss.

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Speaker 6: And you know, as singers, we all know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Know about this that comes from that comes from going

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to like take command of this whole room,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't able to do it for the first six

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Speaker 2: have that honing process. They might they might be in

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Speaker 2: they got all kinds of technology. Catch your record and

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're not investing. They're not investing in

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if there is the process, Is

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Speaker 2: there any reverence for it anymore? No, there should be,

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Speaker 2: there should be.

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Speaker 3: But I don't really think that we're like probably the

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Speaker 3: that's some type of developments. Like it's taken us years

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Speaker 3: to find an artist, right because we're like, nah, but

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Speaker 1: They got this record of them.

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Speaker 2: But you that fleeting, Like that's so fleeting. I remember,

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Speaker 2: like one of the things that I so appreciate y'all

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Speaker 2: telling me that that means a lot to me. I

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Speaker 2: remember a couple of times in my career, and as artists,

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Speaker 2: I guess there's always some level it thinks for me,

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Speaker 2: there's always some level of insecurity. But I remember when

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Speaker 2: and you're doing the rounds at the radio stations and

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Speaker 2: Luther Vandross was just leaving an interview and Luther was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm the type of dude where it's like, if I

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Speaker 2: know Luther is there, I at least want to just

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Speaker 2: say thank you. I don't I don't want to crowd

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Speaker 2: to you. I just want to say thank you. But

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Speaker 2: Luther found out I was there, He's like, oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no, you tell him to come here. When somebody

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Speaker 2: like Luther looks at you and say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: you're doing it right, you know, And that's all I needed.

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Speaker 2: Luther looks at me, that's it. So it's like, if

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Speaker 2: you thought I was dope before, that's probably when you

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Speaker 2: heard me go in the studio do that false little

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Speaker 2: let me show these niggas, you know. So it's like

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Speaker 2: when you get when somebody like that, like a Maurice

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Speaker 2: me want to, oh ship, if I thought I was

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Speaker 2: honing my craft before, I'm gonna have to like, I'm

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00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: really happy, I'm really going in deep now. So it's

439
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: those kinds of things that make me continue to strive

440
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: to be better to this day.

441
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

442
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hunger doesn't go away, you know, the grind,

443
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: the hustle. Yeah, never never goes away.

444
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 6: So when you get that first hit record, right, because

445
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 6: thanks spoke about it a little bit, right, you know,

446
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 6: you put up on them with shoes off, was out,

447
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, showing them sing something, showing

448
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 6: them something, and they're definitely showing out.

449
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: What is that influx?

450
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 3: Like?

451
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you mean when you catch there, you catch

452
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: that r you fresh from Milwaukee, Yes, you're fresh from

453
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: your walk. You get a major hit record, and but.

454
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 6: You don't but you also don't get the run of

455
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 6: the meal hit record. You get a record that nobody's

456
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 6: heard before. You don't get the some producer was did

457
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 6: that record, and then your producer heard it and y'all

458
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 6: recreated and now you get that little cheek code hit.

459
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: You had a record that sets you apart from the gate, right.

460
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 6: So it's a different it's a different level that's coming

461
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 6: your way. It's a it's a different kind of vibe

462
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 6: because back then.

463
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: There were like you said, I mean, when you think

464
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: about what I was doing back then, and what cats

465
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: like D'Angelo were doing back then, and like Maxwell were

466
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: doing back then, that was outside of the norm.

467
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: For sure.

468
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 6: It was like Mashow was brushing his teeth right video,

469
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 6: Like it's like right brushing his teeth. They don't care

470
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 6: at all and they love it right right.

471
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: So we.

472
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: It was just kind of like this feeling of I

473
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: don't know, being that kind of a creative person. The

474
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: people who I work with. When I'm in the lab

475
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: and i've been, I've I like to go check in

476
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: on like how see how lots of people work. A

477
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: lot of people like to work like they like to

478
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: check out what's hot right now, like runk, what kick

479
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: sounds are hot right now? You know what's happening in

480
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: the top ten. And I'm going to try to put

481
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: my own spin on that. But I've never really worked

482
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I've never really worked that way, even back then. I

483
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: always dig from a more intimate place, like even musically,

484
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: like I've never wanted to try to emulate the other

485
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: things that are happening out there. And when you work

486
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: like that, you're working in a bubble. At least I am.

487
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: You're working on this. No, I want to be cut

488
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: off from everything that's like top ten, top twenty on

489
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: the radio right now. I just want to be in

490
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: like this little fortress of musical solitude with myself and

491
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: whoever I invite to come in there and create with

492
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: me all that to say, as we're doing that, we

493
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: don't I don't really know how this is working like

494
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: a motherfucker here, but I don't know how that's going

495
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: to play out there because it's like so intimate to

496
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: us and we're like nerdy music heads. So that's kind

497
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: of it was like I was surprised in a way.

498
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: I was surprised because we were signed to what I

499
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: was signed to Warner Brothers as a solo artist, and

500
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: they really did just leave me alone. They let me

501
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: just do my thing. And then when I turned the

502
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: record in there was a reaction like somebody just reinvented

503
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: the wheel, and I was like, really was It was

504
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: just incredibly surprising because, like I said, I was grateful,

505
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: and it was at least it was affirming that I

506
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, I mean.

507
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: And you had seen the bottom.

508
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: I had already had huge loss, personal loss in my life,

509
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: my the mother of my daughter dying all of a sudden.

510
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: I'm a solo single father, trying to figure out the

511
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: next move. I was working at UPS. When I told

512
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: you I was working at the studio, I was also

513
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: working at UPS. Uh, and working at the studio to

514
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: make you know, to make a little bread. So it's

515
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: like I saw the bottom and once I knew that,

516
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: oh you mean, I can win by just being completely

517
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: authentic in my appreciation for music, not the music industry,

518
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: but music. Yeah, I was like, Okay, I'm not I'm

519
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: not gonna switch it up.

520
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: And that's it. And that's a very unique situation.

521
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: That's very as all of us has been in this

522
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 6: music business for so long to actually it's like getting

523
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: drafted to the right team because one or worked for you,

524
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: but universal may.

525
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Have not you know what I mean, or im I

526
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 2: didn't you know what I mean?

527
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 6: So it's like in that space man, that that in itself,

528
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 6: and you know, we try to give that type of

529
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: information when we when we do these interviews for people

530
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: that are trying to get in the music business. People

531
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 6: are in the in the business to understand, like this

532
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 6: ship just don't happen the way you want it at

533
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: that time, and you got to keep pushing.

534
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: You got to keep pushing until you find that situation

535
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: that makes the most sense for you exactly. But we

536
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: got off of the influx that came with this.

537
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: You you.

538
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm from that area.

539
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 6: He wasn't gonna let you around by the way around

540
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: baptized didn't.

541
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

542
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I tell you here.

543
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't believe this, but actually, now

544
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: that you now that you know me, you can leave it.

545
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: Like I've always been the nerdy dude, like I've always

546
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: been the if it wasn't for music, if it wasn't

547
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: for me being on a stage and singing like my game,

548
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: like my just step up to a girl game was

549
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: was garbage, Like I had no idea I need it,

550
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: but I didn't know I didn't need it because you

551
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So okay, So then you got

552
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: this guy who's basically uh looking at women feeling like

553
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't really have that much of a shot, to

554
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: being on stage having a hit song and having them

555
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: literally come to me. It was overwhelming. And I'm going

556
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: to say this, that's one of the most like if

557
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: you're not ready for that kind of attention, you will die, yes,

558
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: or things around you will because it isn't all And

559
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 2: I don't use the word awesome like well, it can

560
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: be great, but it is. It is an overwhelming uh power.

561
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: And if you are an insecure person who always idolized

562
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: women but didn't know how to talk to him, and

563
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're the guy that they're coming

564
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: at to talk to you. That could be a very

565
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: dangerous thing. And there is a process where, you know,

566
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: for some of us, it takes a year or two

567
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: or ten or two.

568
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: Where you feel me where it's like I'm in that

569
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: ten fifteen years you just jumped another.

570
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: You know, I need a little bit more.

571
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Time to real this thing in right, because it's like,

572
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I can have all of it.

573
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me? It was like like, speak on, man,

574
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: come on, you stuttered Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Maryland.

575
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah right, l A, now now I gotta I gotta taste.

576
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: When I went on tour with Genuine, it was it

577
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: was a it was a heavy taste.

578
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: That was it was.

579
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: It was the taste that changed my life. No, no, listen,

580
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: I definitely yes, you are correcting that, man. I know,

581
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: and Genuine would say to me, this is cool. I

582
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: know you having the time of your life, but it

583
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: ain't nothing like when it's you and I didn't believe

584
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm never leaving you.

585
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to sing.

586
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 6: You still dowhere if guy is on stage and we

587
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: got to show that he finds.

588
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: A way to sing back to get let's do So

589
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: it's like.

590
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: When you get with you, but then when it when

591
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: it listen when I watched, when I watched, maybe I

592
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: deserve start charting and me going from clubs like you

593
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: know what was one hundred people to a thousand people,

594
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: to seven hundred people to a thousand people, and then

595
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: to co headlining radio shows and arena's and London.

596
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: To Chris and and and Nally you know and and

597
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Jah rule Jesus Christ, you have.

598
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: To be all the R and B shows all because

599
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 3: my name was Tank and so sometimes they wouldn't even

600
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: listen to my music.

601
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Just saw that's hilarious record.

602
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Yes, so so so like you take you, I just

603
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: I was dropped in a church kid. Still I'm still trying.

604
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's still biblical for me, it's still spiritual. Lord,

605
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: If you just guide me tonight, I'll let me.

606
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Just won't do it.

607
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: Lord, if you just let me get this tonight, I'm

608
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: not gonna do it. No mo Like, Lord, please guide

609
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: me tonight. And Lord, why did why did her ask

610
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: have to look like that?

611
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Lord said?

612
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: Lord made you did that, you made you did this,

613
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: and I honestly was not. No, you were not. I

614
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: was not.

615
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: There is no man and and people people don't understand this, bro,

616
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: like you get it. There is no man on this

617
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: planet who works at home depot or who's working at

618
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Wells Fargo right now. If you throw him in this situation,

619
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: if you just throw him in the whatever you want situation,

620
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: it will kill him. It will suck the life out

621
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: of them. And so it's like you have to be

622
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: in a certain mental emotional preparedness, which I was not.

623
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: But like I said, it will take some years and

624
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: you have to live with.

625
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 8: Some consequences, some consequences, some losses and losses, some consequences,

626
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 8: and it's.

627
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: Like, wow, I need to reevaluate a lot of shit.

628
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: So but this, you can't be ready for that.

629
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: And and I think on the other side of that,

630
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: the the upbringing and all of these things, and having

631
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: the family structure that we had prepared us in a

632
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: different way to where.

633
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: We would be able to survive. Right, you know what

634
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because a lot of people, a lot of

635
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: people just don't know. And and for you, you did

636
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: it on a very public stage. Right, because you know

637
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: what you were involved in.

638
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: So it's like anytime it's on a public stays, it's

639
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: a million it's not only magnified a million times, but

640
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: there's a certain uh, there's a narrative that they want

641
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: to tell to you know. Now it's clickbait, but it's

642
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: like to sell magazines to do this, So things respawn

643
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: a certain way, and then on the very tiny nucleus

644
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: of what's happening on the inside, there are details that

645
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: no one else knows and maybe I'll never share, but

646
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: it's like it ain't mistakes were made. I've taken accountability.

647
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: So what I've done, I've grown. But from the celebrity,

648
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: there's any celebrity out there who's dealing with that relationship

649
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: and the press ship, that's.

650
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a hard thing. And it's even it's

651
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: even harder now with social media.

652
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's even harder now, right because back

653
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 6: then you just have to try to see you and

654
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 6: take a picture of you and then't write whatever they wanted.

655
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: You get tired of it or they get tired of it.

656
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: And now you make your own and you sorry typing ship,

657
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 6: and now you're like maybe I should Yeah, maybe I

658
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 6: should have.

659
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Just I'm a delete that right, they've already out. He

660
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: used to call me. You'll call me about seven in

661
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: the morning. What the fuck? Take what did you? What

662
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: do you want to do?

663
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: What's her name?

664
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: Seven? Five?

665
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Saying some can you stop this on line?

666
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: This?

667
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: No, I said, I said that said the same way.

668
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: But I get that, I said, Tank, what you gotta

669
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 6: realize a lot of times you're talking to ghost. True,

670
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 6: you're literally talking to go like, yes, are there some

671
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 6: people that are real people that are going at you?

672
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 6: But sometimes it's just accounts that are made to literally

673
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: absolutely get a.

674
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Rise out of you. Well, what come on out, come

675
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: on now, doubt. Can you just stop on Instagram? Can

676
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: you do it for me for two weeks?

677
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Please?

678
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: No, they have to hear from me. That's just not easy.

679
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: I have this outlook on life. Mistakes that might be

680
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: a little different because granted, in the moment, they feel

681
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: like the exact wrong thing you've allowed to happen, or

682
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: you participated in happening, or that has happened to you.

683
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: But in my fifty four years on this earth, I

684
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: am fifty four.

685
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I did not know that nigga, I

686
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: don't think I'm buying no more shoes. Yeah.

687
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: Man, what I've learned is mistakes, all of them. And

688
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: this is gonna sound like some cliche. You see you

689
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: on the Instagram with a lion in the background of

690
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: some sh sterc but from.

691
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Some nigga, that's just a terrible human, right. It's probably horrible.

692
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: For the girls I'm talking about some certain people whatever

693
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: is it's a terrible human right, or the Instagram models

694
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: with the ass and it be like.

695
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Spiritual, you know, it's like, you know, I've got to

696
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: grow foot.

697
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: To be like to be like only God, you know. Anyway,

698
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: So what the what was I saying?

699
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh, mistakes, mistakes, God?

700
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: I know, great, I got to use the mistakes for

701
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: me have all been an opportunity to grow. So yes,

702
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: I have made mistakes in my life, and I feel

703
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: and I think it goes back. I think it goes

704
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: back to something something you hit on the parenting thing

705
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: my mom and dad instilled in me a long time ago,

706
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: like you are going to make a lot of mistakes

707
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: in your life. What do you do with those mistakes?

708
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: What do you do with those traumatic events in your life?

709
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: So when I have stumbled. When I've fallen, or when

710
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: I've made mistakes in business or in my personal life,

711
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, I take a moment to fall back and see, Okay, God,

712
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: what was the lesson you were trying to teach me

713
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: with this one? Sometimes those lessons are obvious as hell,

714
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: and sometimes are not so obvious, But every time it happens,

715
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: it's an opportunity to be a better version of yourself.

716
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: My first record deal, to answer a question that deals

717
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: with more professional situation, my first record deal that I

718
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: did with my sister Beney. It was an incredible opportunity.

719
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: It was two kids being plucked out of Milwaukee, coming

720
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: to La seeing things and experiencing things that I only

721
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: saw on Magnum PI and stuff like that.

722
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, but.

723
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: The record label didn't really give us autonomy, didn't really

724
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: give us control to make all of the music we

725
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: wanted to make, to pick the producers that we necessarily

726
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: wanted to work with, or at least we felt like

727
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that, because there was a lot of

728
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: energy on my part where I felt like I doubted myself.

729
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Enough is that twenty something year old kid who well,

730
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I certainly can't know so if they're telling me I

731
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: should work with this artist and that artist, and I

732
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: guess I should. That was a mistake. That was a mistake,

733
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: and that's a mistake that every young artist needs to

734
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: know right now. The reason why they own your shit

735
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: right now, Young artists out there, the reason why you're

736
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: geting and the attention you're getting is because you're dope.

737
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: Because the creative decisions you make are dope.

738
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Led you here.

739
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Don't doubt that, you know, like, lead with that. Don't

740
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: let somebody else who's been on their own journey and

741
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: have seen their own assent to fame and fortune tell

742
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: you this is how I did it, so you need

743
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: to do it. You need to do it like this. Look,

744
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: some of those lessons that they bestow on you are

745
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: appropriate and you can use that, but their path is

746
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: not your path. So I think that's probably one of

747
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: the biggest lessons that I learned. I think I learned

748
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: early from that mistake. That's why when I had an

749
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to do the solo album in ninety six, the

750
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Eric Benet record, I was like, look, okay, we can

751
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: do this record deal thing, but I have to be

752
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: in charge of everything from the way I dress to

753
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: the way I look to the songs on the album

754
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: I told you, like the whole album. My first album

755
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: was like the demo between my cousin George and Demonte

756
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: and me just met. So I need to be in control.

757
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: To the point where I named my first album true

758
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: to Myself because I had been through the whole Uh

759
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: the alternative.

760
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could only imagine Eric coming out as like

761
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 6: the fifth member of Joasy with like.

762
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: The type of that was.

763
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: Like, it's not you, you are somebody tried to get

764
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: me in, like a nigga was that to get me

765
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: in like a three boy band group where it was

766
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: me I was to singing nigga and it was like

767
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: this dark nigga from from like Nigeria or something, and

768
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: it was a white nigga who was singing whig and

769
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: it was like I almost did it. And this was

770
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: before my first record deal.

771
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was in the meeting with

772
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: the two guys.

773
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: And come on, bro, this is our chance. You know,

774
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: if you don't like it, you know, we could blow

775
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: up and then you can do your own thing. I

776
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but I don't know the same for me,

777
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: So you're absolutely right. Man, it's like, you gotta, you gotta,

778
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: you gotta be true to yourself. You gotta be true

779
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: to yourself. You have to be honest enough with yourself

780
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: to know your gut, to know your soul, so that

781
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: when something doesn't vibrate right with you, you are the

782
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: first to know and and and act upon that. No

783
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: matter how old I get, I'm still that hungry, young

784
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: creative dude from Milwaukee. No matter what happened. Shout shout

785
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: out to Milwaukee. Thanks, hey, Wisconsin came through, didn't they

786
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: with that orange? Hold up?

787
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Bow it up? You know what?

788
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: And that's that's okay, movie star writer all of that.

789
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Let's pivot to that because you know, I don't really

790
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: do a whole lot of politics.

791
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 9: You know sometimes and listen you in between you and

792
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 9: d L you, Oh my god, yeah, out there.

793
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: I think that's the old man. That's the old man

794
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: in me.

795
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: You are out there.

796
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: The old man ship is real because once you get

797
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: to a certain age, it's like, let me just say

798
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: you are saying it. I remember when I first started

799
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: doing it. My management was like, yeah, you know, that's

800
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: how I started saying. You know, we really respect that

801
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: you want to voice your opinion, but we got to

802
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: remember there's there are people out there who like your

803
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: music who aren't exactly on the same political that man,

804
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: we're talking about a damn you know ship, damn Hitler

805
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: starter kit.

806
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: Here's what I say, it's like, it is a double

807
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: ed short right in terms of the political part of it.

808
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: Once you start dabbling into that place, you can you

809
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: can feel the shift of people who were there for

810
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: the music then knowing discovering too much about you, right,

811
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: that makes them either go way left or way right

812
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 3: with you. But you're right, you're and you're out, you're

813
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: outspoken in terms of you know, in terms of the

814
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: political uh, in terms of your political status.

815
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: I think once you hit fifty, what it is like

816
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: any any whatever like filter I had left that ship,

817
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: that ship just you.

818
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Know, because you were you were attacking who was you?

819
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Who was you?

820
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: You know you said something, you said something running, ain't

821
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: singing and if it's in insane you know because you

822
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: and you young niggas, you're putting the whole lot of

823
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: we grew up on you man doing that man attacking

824
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: the kids, saying like who was attacking the king?

825
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: At some point we're gonna have to stop.

826
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 10: Eric, you ain't nobody when I was growing up, when

827
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 10: I was in the studio, which I hate that.

828
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: I said, Eric, come on, man, stop there people, This

829
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: new ain't ship. You put the time on it.

830
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: But it was like it was like you were just

831
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you were being honest about how you felt

832
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: about it. But you know what I mean, Like I

833
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: think I was.

834
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: Having one of those moments where hey, I love like

835
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: I am. I'm one of the biggest fans of like

836
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: dope runs and people who can run.

837
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't know.

838
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of those things where before

839
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: the run, there needs to be the melody, Like can

840
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: we at least know what the melody is before you start?

841
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 11: Like and I know what I said, and I agree

842
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 11: with you, but they had to say it. But no,

843
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 11: there because because because I grew up, Yeah, you said.

844
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: On Kim Barell.

845
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: But see that's it's almost.

846
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: So guess what I needed, Like she she didn't. She

847
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: didn't make a song that was like a straight ahead

848
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: or a commercial thing until way later.

849
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: I know this sounds like bullshit, but it's almost like

850
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: that's different because because Kim Barell, Kim Barell is a

851
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: whole nother being.

852
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: It's not different because I needed what she was doing.

853
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: I needed it.

854
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I'm not disagreeing with you. Like

855
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: these young nigga like kim Barell, probably.

856
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: That's what it's like.

857
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: It's like these young niggas would hear a Kim Barell

858
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: and be like, Oh, that's what I need to do,

859
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, before Kim Barell was I don't know,

860
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I met Kim Barell. She's a

861
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: wonderful person, but I don't know like her whole story,

862
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: but I would imagine before she could do all that,

863
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: at some point she had the base, like she could

864
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: do a melody for sure, so and she had to

865
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: evolve to that. But I think one of the frustrating

866
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: things for me is like young singers would see the

867
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: Kimbarell and be like.

868
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh, and that's what the song is, that's all it is.

869
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: But as I was able to grab the pieces, well,

870
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: clearly you can use it and use it in spacessary

871
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: and that's.

872
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: What the beauty of running like you you well you're

873
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: a songwriter, you're a producer, so you know construction of

874
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: along the melody, learn yes, yes.

875
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: To learn to stop singing versus myself. You know what

876
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, Oh, they'll never be able to do this,

877
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: Like that was my mentality when I went to the studio.

878
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: They're going to be like when they can't sing, like

879
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 3: maybe I deserve was like in my mind, my worst

880
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 3: song vocally one of my biggest.

881
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Wow, and I didn't understand why until fifteen years later.

882
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: Was that kind of stuff is incredible to me because

883
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I kind of feel the same way like with some

884
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: of my biggest songs. For some of those songs where

885
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: and it's interesting how this works. It's like you can

886
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: be in the studio and you can have some song

887
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: that you feel like is a masterpiece and you just

888
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: have to put no every every box of that song.

889
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no, that wasn't right.

890
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: I want to can we can I bring the can

891
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: the guitar play come back to the studio because he

892
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: I wanted him to glisten on this, you know. So

893
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: it's like you can create this masterpiece and people will

894
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: hear it and be like wow, that's dope. Okay, let

895
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: me hear another one. And then you play a song

896
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: where you was in the studio for like four minutes throwaway. Yeah,

897
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: you can be in a song where it's like, okay,

898
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: we were just vibing on this, and then I put

899
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: some words on this motherfucker and it's like, oh shit,

900
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: that's the one.

901
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: So it's like, I'm a story of mine, the story

902
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: of my career right A song Please Don't Go have

903
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: been played for numerous artists foof album whose albums I've

904
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: worked on. I was like, I got this one thing

905
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: right here playing it's cool. I'm in Glenwood Studios working

906
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: on uh, working on tex Club and pain and I

907
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: got one day extra. I finished all the songs I

908
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: wanted to release, said something here.

909
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: They was like.

910
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: They was like, well, you got one more day. If

911
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: you want to do something, you do something. I was like, okay,

912
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 3: they got good cookies and ship hang out at the studio, chill,

913
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna record this one track. One.

914
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this one track. I'm just recorded.

915
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: Lonnie, my guy, Lonnie he call, He's like, he's like,

916
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: what you working on teas. I was like, I'm just

917
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: working on this song right here. Like he's like, let

918
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: me get some of that. Bridge was like absolutely. It

919
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: was one hundred percenter into the bridge, so he puts

920
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: a bridge down. I sing the bridge. I'm like, I'm

921
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: just turn it in with the rest of them. Turned

922
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 3: the song in and it was please don't go. And

923
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: they called me two days later, nigger you did it

924
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: the street guy, nigga, you did that ship nigg And

925
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: I started naming every other song, Oh you like that

926
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: ship right there, and they're like nah. I said, oh,

927
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: I know what you want you talk about. You talk

928
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: about that one because I put the song NA not

929
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: that with nigga, Nigga, Please don't go. I said, what right, Nigga?

930
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Is that snad? I said, are you sure?

931
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: Right?

932
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: You know I haven't been out in five years. I've

933
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: been on the bench.

934
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been at war. Yeah, we're in rec company

935
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: for five years. And they're like, this is a song

936
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't I don't think. I don't

937
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: think that after five years of being absent, that this

938
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: is this is where we go. We don't start with this, right,

939
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: And they're like this, yes we do, right, Yes we do.

940
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: Black Round Records I got.

941
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: I got the same story. So it had been a

942
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: minute since I went through this whole thing. With Warner

943
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: Brothers where I you know, we did A Day in

944
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: the Life and that was a big record for me.

945
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: And then I did this other record, another album called

946
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: Better and Better, but they rejected my album, so the

947
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: whole album. So I'm going to the record label and

948
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, y'all don't really get this album. Okay,

949
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: will you let me leave the label? Will you let

950
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: me out at my deal?

951
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: Nope?

952
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: Okay. Will you give me like a budget to go

953
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: in and do some more shit like if you didn't

954
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: like Nope. So basically I'm just sitting. I'm just sitting

955
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: for a couple of years. They wouldn't let me out,

956
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: they wouldn't give me a budget to do anything else.

957
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: And so I'm back home just vibing some songs with

958
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: my dudes. Ultimately I got another I got a green

959
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: lid to do another record. And we were in the

960
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: in my promotion man's room, Ken Wilson, you know, come

961
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: on now, yes, my job, my god. So we're listening

962
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: to all these songs trying to figure out, like what's

963
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: the single. And we were listening we had a couple

964
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: of dope joys, so yeah, yeah, man, you can have

965
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: man man dope ship on that look. But that's all.

966
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: It's like, I got this other thing, but you know

967
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: it's not a thing already, shut that down. No, no, no, nobody,

968
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: this is something new that I was like this other thing.

969
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: It's probably not a single, but I mean I played

970
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: for you. Maybe we put it on the album for

971
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: the Japanese release, like Jeffards bonus track or some ship.

972
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Like Nigga, I played the song Ken Wilson, Nigga, that

973
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: that motherfucker right there, Nigga, that's your first thing. It

974
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: was You're the only one, wow right, that you play

975
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: as your throwaway?

976
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was just like, yeah, I thought

977
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: it was.

978
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: I thought because when we wrote You're the only One,

979
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was one of those like throwback to

980
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, the whole vibe we were doing like a

981
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: seventies throwback thing, and I was like, I don't know

982
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: people ready for that right now. It's probably just gonna

983
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: be like a cool vibe on the album. Can It

984
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: was like, Nigga, that was the vibe, that ship right there, Nigga,

985
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: don't know what you're smoking, Nigga. So yeah, and that

986
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: was that was number one for like a couple more

987
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: number one.

988
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: You got toast the number.

989
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: Boy.

990
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: It was got a lot of my money. We have

991
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: a part of the show. Okay, right, he can do it.

992
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: He can definitely. What is it?

993
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: Does it involve calistenics or doing push up?

994
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: No?

995
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 6: No, no, okay, it involves talking that talk, so it's

996
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 6: called I ain't saying on that m.

997
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: Hm, whoa No, listen, listen, listen, listen.

998
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: It can be funny or fucked up. Are both funny

999
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 6: and fun up your story? But you do not say

1000
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 6: the names of the other participants in the story. But

1001
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 6: you give a non be like, oh you talking about that?

1002
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: Could have been.

1003
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 2: I ain't saying, I ain't saying. Okay mm hmm.

1004
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: But you know I know I didn't prep you for this.

1005
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: You just not. We like to do it on the spot.

1006
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: We like to do on the spot. You like to

1007
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: get it honest uge.

1008
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: Let me see now in my memory, I'm you know,

1009
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing like the fucking don't say that. They don't know.

1010
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: They don't know who that is that ship either. No, yeah,

1011
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: we're swiping. I'm swiping right.

1012
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Now in my brain. Old hell, let's see, no name,

1013
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: no face, no case.

1014
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: Here's that I'm trying to think it don't fit. I

1015
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: ain't saying no name.

1016
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: Y'all edit this ship. No we wrong you the ben man.

1017
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, whatever you need.

1018
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: Jamie told us, don't any ship custs us out.

1019
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: But I wanted to adder some ship. Okay, okay, okay.

1020
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: I ain't said no names. I mean it's I mean

1021
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: just in the spirit of the conversation and being from Milwaukee,

1022
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: and you know Milwaukee gets cold as ship. Mm hm.

1023
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: Ah.

1024
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: Somebody was uh this was I used to before I

1025
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: actually moved to LA. I kept my I kept the

1026
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: place in Milwaukee for a while. And uh there was

1027
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: an artist. Oh my god, I can't believe I'm telling

1028
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: you burdening ham. If I didn't have like three glasses

1029
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: of wine, I probably wouldn't say this man hold up.

1030
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: So there was somebody. There was this female artist who

1031
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: I was kind of vibing. By the way, full disclosure,

1032
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: was not married. This was like Eric in Milwaukee, just

1033
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: like being at the Milwaukee BNA, being at BNA. There

1034
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: was this artist in Milwaukee and we, uh, we had stayed.

1035
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: I forgot how we got each other's information, but we

1036
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: stayed in touch. And she was like, I'm in Milwaukee,

1037
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: we should have some drinksoo, we went out. My god,

1038
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 2: this sounds horrible. This sounds horrible, man, but it's really

1039
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: not that bad. So we went out, you know, east

1040
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: side of Milwaukee. It's all kind of dope little bars

1041
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: and dope pizza joints, and were one drink after another

1042
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: and it's cold as ship. I think it was probably like.

1043
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: It was it was. It was.

1044
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: It was either December or January in Milwaukee. So you know,

1045
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: that's no way, no joke. So we are, we're drinking,

1046
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: we're eating, and as we're drinking and eating, we're getting

1047
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: a lot more touchy philly with the laughs, the laughs,

1048
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: the lingering hands are lingering longer and boom boom boom.

1049
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 5: And then.

1050
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: We're both drunk, which this is everything about the story

1051
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: is horrible because because I'm drunk in the bar with

1052
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: this person and now I'm gonna I'm like where you're

1053
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: saying what what? Held are you saying?

1054
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just driving.

1055
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm not drunk. Incredibly irresponsible. So we're in the car

1056
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: and she says we're driving past esther Brook Park. She

1057
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: says streaking. I'm like streaking, Yeah, let's do it. So

1058
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: it's like one o'clock in the morning, it's probably like

1059
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: eight degrees outside.

1060
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: Drunk as hell.

1061
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: That's a great idea.

1062
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Pull over, Oh my god, pull.

1063
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 8: Over as the Brook Park in the parking lot, looking ship,

1064
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 8: we takeing off our clothes. We run through Estherbrook Park

1065
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 8: one o'clock in the morning, butt ass naked, ended up

1066
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 8: in the bushes, and that's where I'll leave the.

1067
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: Bushes eight degrees you are wow?

1068
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1069
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: Do you ever hear about the news run in Milwaukee?

1070
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: This this is me say.

1071
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: I got a lot a lot of crazy white boyfriends

1072
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. So they got this are they used to?

1073
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do it anymore? But on

1074
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, you got the Polar Bears, and they

1075
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: jump into the Polar Bears, y'all. They don't know what

1076
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: the Polar Bears is. It's a bunch of crazy ass

1077
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: white people in Milwaukee. On New Year's Eve, they will

1078
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: strip down to their swimsuits and jump into sub zero water,

1079
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: freezing ice water for whatever reason. I don't know. But anyway,

1080
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: some other homies in mind, some of them I went

1081
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: to college with. But some of them were just like

1082
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: crazy ass white dudes. Like I would go have drinks

1083
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: with every year they would do the nude run. You

1084
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: would run from like River West all the way to

1085
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: the lakefronts. But as NICKI what, yes, So you would

1086
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: do the nude run and you would ultimately end up

1087
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: at this public swimming pool that of course was closed,

1088
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: and then it would turn into.

1089
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: They were break into the swim.

1090
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I did the nude run in Milwaukee once.

1091
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: But I feel like you do more.

1092
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: Probably probably the nude run Milwaukee.

1093
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: I did it like one time.

1094
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: I know I was lying. You could tell I was

1095
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: lying right every year like new Road.

1096
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: This niggas wilf Ferro didn't mean that's Frank the tenth

1097
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: right here? Why is the gentleman? This has been Everybody

1098
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Podcast with our brother Eric Bennay. He name name, name name,

1099
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't even be money money