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Speaker 1: FBHP dot com. I'm Emmy Wells and I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Rhett Brian and coach mac Dave McGinnis, and I

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Speaker 1: felt that it was important to do an OTP to

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Speaker 1: explain some things to the OT people. You guys are

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Speaker 1: our resident draft gurus and do an incredible amount of

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Speaker 1: work and preparation every single year for the draft. Titans

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Speaker 1: Radio obviously has a lot of draft coverage that requires

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Speaker 1: a lot of work, but you guys go above and

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Speaker 1: beyond in your preparation for the draft and pre draft season,

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Speaker 1: and we reference it a lot as we are going

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Speaker 1: through the draft process. We reference the work that you

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Speaker 1: guys do often. We use you guys pretty substantially as

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Speaker 1: a resource for all of the draft information. So I

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Speaker 1: exactly what we are talking about when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: your draft preparation. Give them an idea of the work

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Speaker 1: that you guys actually do. Explain what some of the

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Speaker 1: things that we talk about a lot mean and why

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Speaker 1: the genesis of all of this. If we're going to begin,

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Speaker 1: let's begin at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: You know, makes sense?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I think that where we should start is

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Speaker 1: and I guess rhtt, you should kind of tell us

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Speaker 2: Right, So the twenty eighteen draft, this would have been

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Speaker 2: after Max's first year on Titans radio, and he came

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Speaker 2: and we said, yeah, we'd love to have you or whatever,

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Speaker 2: And because Mac listen, he still vets, because he is

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Speaker 3: That's basically the genesis of it. Because I came back.

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Speaker 2: So while we're on the genesis, we've gone through the

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Speaker 3: because now I know these players. I know these guys,

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Speaker 3: and we know you know them if you vet them

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Speaker 3: in the draft, and of course all the years have

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Speaker 3: been doing it. It helps with the broadcast a lot,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and it's helped It's helped us. It's helped us.

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Speaker 3: And you've been a big part of this with our

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Speaker 3: pregame preparation, in the pregame show that we do because

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Speaker 3: we can give different aspects of who this player is

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Speaker 3: now that he's in the league with reference to how

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Speaker 3: he got in the league and where he was, and

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Speaker 3: I mean it's really helpful.

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Speaker 2: Well, and think about how important that was just in

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Speaker 2: the realm of the Titans, with how many rookies had

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Speaker 2: to play in twenty twenty three. At one point it

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Speaker 2: was what thirteen fourteen, I don't know, something like that.

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Speaker 2: And so we had a knowledge of some of those

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Speaker 2: were undrafted, some of them were top picks. And so

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Speaker 2: you're right, the base knowledge that you put in there,

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Speaker 2: because all of these guys are going to be planning

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Speaker 2: for somebody that are selected, that are invited here, most

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Speaker 2: all of them will be drafted.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think, And let me just brag on Rent.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to a lot, but I will is

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Speaker 3: that is this this last draft. I mean, you could

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Speaker 3: tell that he was really starting to feel it and

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Speaker 3: could get it and and and I've said this and

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Speaker 3: and and it's a truth. He was the one when

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Speaker 3: we went to the Senior Bowl that said, Mac, I

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Speaker 3: want you to watch this kid, because I've been following him.

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Speaker 3: I've seen enough of him. I really think he's going

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Speaker 3: to be He's got a chance to do something was

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Speaker 3: ty J spears, I mean that and that to me,

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Speaker 3: he shows I mean he gets it now because and

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Speaker 3: I went okay, and we started looking at him and went, oh, hell,

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Speaker 3: you know what you And that to me was a

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Speaker 3: great moment because Red had that was Red's guy, and

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Speaker 3: and he had he had vetted him, he had vetted

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Speaker 3: him before I did. And then and then we started

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Speaker 3: looking at him and so, I mean, he's in the

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Speaker 3: eight years that we've been doing this together, he went

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Speaker 3: from not knowing whether he was foot or horseback to

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Speaker 3: being able to ride it at full speed. And that's

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Speaker 3: pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Seek geek is now the official ticketing partner of the

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Speaker 1: fans can fan. What's interesting about all of this to

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Speaker 1: me is a the just amount of work that you

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Speaker 1: guys put into it. You really are incredibly thorough. But

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Speaker 1: then the way that you are able to translate all

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Speaker 1: of that work into broadcasting and being able to explain

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Speaker 1: certain elements of whether it be a player and just

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Speaker 1: his background a player and his skill set where he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to contribute ways on the field. Using

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Speaker 1: it on Titans Radio during the games or just throughout

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Speaker 1: the season, you're able to take all of this information

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Speaker 1: that seems very specific in terms of we never talk

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Speaker 1: about guys shake or wiggle or all the bizarre words

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Speaker 1: that they use to describe what people can do. We

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Speaker 1: don't use those phrases and words at any other time

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Speaker 1: other than leading up to the draft. But you're able

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Speaker 1: to take that information and translate it in a way

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Speaker 1: as a broadcaster to the fans to explain what a

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Speaker 1: guy is like. I think it is so cool that

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Speaker 1: you guys have that resource now and us as Titans Radio,

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Speaker 1: the OTP, all of the different platforms that we are on.

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Speaker 1: What a resource for us to be able to bring

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Speaker 1: something different to the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. And we have nothing to

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Speaker 2: gain out of it. As MAC. We're doing it because

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Speaker 2: we love doing this. I'm not standing on the table

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Speaker 2: talking about a guy because it's gonna my life's going

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Speaker 2: to depend on it. I mean, we're passionate about what

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Speaker 2: we're looking at. And you know the other part of

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Speaker 2: is these are people just like we are. And you

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Speaker 2: won't hear me say anything disparaging about a young man

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Speaker 2: if he had a run in with the law, or

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Speaker 2: if he had whatever, or a myriad of injuries. There's

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Speaker 2: several guys in this draft. It's going to have a

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Speaker 2: lot of medical checks this week in Indianapolis. Here. They're

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Speaker 2: people and you know that resonated with me when Ran

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Speaker 2: Carthon came aboard last year about because this is still

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Speaker 2: a people business. And I think that's the thing that

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Speaker 2: I have always tried to do before I ever met

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Speaker 2: Coach Mack and started working with Coach Mack. Doing this

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Speaker 2: stuff is telling the human interest stuff behind these players

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Speaker 2: because they are not immune to life's problems and sometimes

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Speaker 2: tragedies and they just happen to have the really coolest

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Speaker 2: job in the world and have a name plate on

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Speaker 2: the back of a jersey and played National Football League football.

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Speaker 2: There's that human element about it because we're dealing with humans,

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Speaker 2: We're dealing with people well.

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Speaker 3: And of course I've done this for three decades in

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Speaker 3: a draft room, standing on tables for guys or arguing

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Speaker 3: guys down and then you know, putting basic my mortgage

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Speaker 3: on the line, saying this is the pick. When I

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Speaker 3: was in, this is the pick, this is who we want. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I've the draft is fascinating because in a draft room,

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Speaker 3: I mean for years, I work the phones in draft room,

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Speaker 3: you know, working trades, you know, working calling, I mean back.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I still got all these contacts in

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Speaker 3: the league, because you know, and I can talk. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, when when I go to sit over

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Speaker 3: there in Lucas Oil, I'll sit with the position coaches

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Speaker 3: out in the you know, I can go up to

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Speaker 3: the suites. I don't do that. I like to sit

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Speaker 3: out with the coaches and listen to them. And they

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Speaker 3: ask me, because say, no, I still do this, Mike,

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Speaker 3: what do you see on this guy? How do you know?

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Speaker 3: So all of that, I mean, it's unfortunate because I've

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Speaker 3: got thirty plus years behind me that people still trust

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Speaker 3: me and call me in value my opinion. But to

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Speaker 3: do it for what we do it for for Titans

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Speaker 3: Radio and then for the OT people, and for this

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Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. I mean, it's it's it's a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun for us, and there's no reason, And I

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Speaker 3: like what you said to Amy, there's no reason to

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Speaker 3: get all technical when we're trying to transfer it to

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Speaker 3: the people to so how much we know that doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter what they want to know, you know, is kind

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Speaker 3: of you know where they thinking, where they thinking they

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Speaker 3: got this guy, because look, the draft is so easy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. And it's an opinion. It's

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Speaker 3: picking humans, picking humans, and it's easy to get an opinion.

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Speaker 3: How could they do that? You know, why would they do?

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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating, fascinating part of this profession. It really is.

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Speaker 1: It really is, And we are so grateful that you

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Speaker 1: guys put in that work and put in all the

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Speaker 1: effort and have all of this information. But I just

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Speaker 1: thought that it would be interesting to the people. It

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Speaker 1: certainly is interesting to me to hear you guys talk

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Speaker 1: about it, So I appreciate you taking the time to

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Speaker 1: break it down for me and also for the OT people.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to do it anything to do with y'all,

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Speaker 2: with Ashley, with Amy, with with Mike, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to do this anytime, uh, And I'm I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to entertain questions about any of this because I'm still

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Speaker 2: learning myself. I'm what I always say, Mac, I'm in

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Speaker 2: the Coach Mac School of Ball. The CMSOB Rising Junior

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Speaker 2: Class at twenty twenty five for Rettbriant, Coach Mac.

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Speaker 1: I'm Amy Wells and this has been the O T

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Speaker 1: PET Welcome to the Big Show.

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Speaker 2: Weather Legends calling.

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Speaker 3: Everbody knows it's our house.

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Speaker 2: Finding fund sense