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<v Speaker 1>Bushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas is one week away, and how am I celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>with restraint and circumspection. In the Glabew family, we do

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<v Speaker 2>a mid century modern Christmas spare elegant, minimalist, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>the Baby Jesus in a tasteful Scandinavian leather and rosewood manger.

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<v Speaker 2>No Santa, no reindeer, no elves. Not so for my

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<v Speaker 2>colleague Ben ad Alf Halfrey. The Globows impose a dollar

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<v Speaker 2>limit on gifts, like price controls in some socialist state

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<v Speaker 2>that at a half Halfreys spend months thinking of what

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<v Speaker 2>to get one another. The Globows buy a tree at

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<v Speaker 2>the last moment, and would be happier if we could

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<v Speaker 2>just move the whole operation outside around the Douglas Pine.

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<v Speaker 2>In the backyard, Ben's family has a tree, a little

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<v Speaker 2>model village covered in snow and is fos vintage electric

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<v Speaker 2>train set, plus a little metal tree with ornaments that's

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<v Speaker 2>up year round. So when I told Ben that I

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<v Speaker 2>had never watched It's a Wonderful Life, he was stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he reached out to me as the good smartan

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<v Speaker 2>did to the traveler lying beref by the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road. How could this be, he asked me gently, because,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can imagine, within the daph Haffreys, It's a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful life is a sacred text. Then Ben told me

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<v Speaker 2>another story about what, in his mind is an even

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<v Speaker 2>more important Christmas tale, a story that he regards as

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<v Speaker 2>the apotheosis of all Christmas movies, a story not in

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<v Speaker 2>a film, but of the making of a film. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to revisionist history. I'm Malcolm Gladwell. Today in our show,

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<v Speaker 2>Ben the alf Halfrey relays for the very first time

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<v Speaker 2>in history, the truly spruy story of the making of

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<v Speaker 2>the oddest Christmas film of all time. Trust me, you

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<v Speaker 2>have never heard this story before ever, nor have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen the movie in question, unless you're a member

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<v Speaker 2>of the extended no Deaf Halfway Clan or were recently

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated in a state that limits prisoner's streaming access to

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<v Speaker 2>obscure television movies in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you listen to.

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<v Speaker 2>What follows, you're going to ask yourself the same question

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<v Speaker 2>I ask myself when Ben first told me this story.

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<v Speaker 3>How do I miss this? Unlike Malcolm, I am a

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<v Speaker 3>great lover of Christmas movies. Every year as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>Thanksgiving is over, I'm firing up the Bishop's Wife, Miracle

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<v Speaker 3>on thirty fourth Street. Or It's a Wonderful Life. And

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<v Speaker 3>then there's my favorite Christmas movie, a little less famous,

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen forty five romantic comedy Christmas in Connecticut. I've

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<v Speaker 3>watched it pretty much every year since I was little.

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara Stanwick Play is a magazine columnist who's famous for

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<v Speaker 3>entertaining on her grand Connecticut farm. She's known as a

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<v Speaker 3>great cook. It's the end of World War Two and

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<v Speaker 3>her magazine's publisher has an idea for a great feature.

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<v Speaker 3>Jill hosts a returning war hero for Christmas on her farm.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just one problem. It's all a lie. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>live in Connecticut. She lives in a tiny apartment in

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<v Speaker 3>New York. And she has no clue how to cook.

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<v Speaker 1>My fun? Oh yes, my fun?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my fine?

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<v Speaker 5>And you want to see you right away to arrange it.

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<v Speaker 6>Arrange it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>Where am I going to get a farm?

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't even got a window. Boss, That's just it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to star him off, you know what, to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to years for the truth. If he ever finds

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<v Speaker 1>out we've been making all this up.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll fire the both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Chaos ensues. It's a classic screwball comedy and a total delight.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing I really want to tell you about

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<v Speaker 3>in this episode is what happened after I discovered, quite

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<v Speaker 3>by accident, that there was a remake of this favorite

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas movie of mine, an action packed, star studed, joke filled,

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<v Speaker 3>really very different version of the original, made for TV

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<v Speaker 3>and directed by none other than Arnold Schwarzenegger. A kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shocking twist if you ask me, I mean, why

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<v Speaker 3>would the Terminator take on Christmas in Connecticut? So I

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<v Speaker 3>did what any good Christmas fiend would do. I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to a dozen people about something that happened thirty years

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<v Speaker 3>ago for way too many hours to get the real story,

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<v Speaker 3>and I discovered in the process what I have come

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<v Speaker 3>to regard as the greatest Christmas tale of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told this.

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<v Speaker 7>Story many times, I've never told it all the record.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a big story, So if you've got the time,

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<v Speaker 7>I will tell it to you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Stan Brooks in the early nineteen nineties. He was

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<v Speaker 3>an independent made for TV movie producer.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm developing movies and a friend of mine goes

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<v Speaker 7>and gets the job at TNC and I make the

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<v Speaker 7>very first movie for him.

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<v Speaker 3>TNT launched in nineteen eighty eight, at the start of

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<v Speaker 3>the cable television revolution. Then, as now, cable was expensive,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was growing. The whole game was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>raise awareness to get people to sign up, and with

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<v Speaker 3>channels running twenty four to seven, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of space to fill, which led to a boom and

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<v Speaker 3>made for TV movies. Stan's first film on TNT was

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<v Speaker 3>a big success. So he got another bite at the

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<v Speaker 3>Apple and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Calls me, He goes, what do you want to do next?

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<v Speaker 7>So they said, like Nami years, would you ever let

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<v Speaker 7>me do a remake from the MGM library because that's

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<v Speaker 7>what Ted owned, And he said, yes, just pick one.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas movies always do well, and there is one Stan

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<v Speaker 3>loved Christmas in Connecticut, and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Know the Barber Stanlet movie, and so I said, well,

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<v Speaker 7>this could be a good one. It was right as

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<v Speaker 7>Martha Stewart was exploding. I thought, well, what if this

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<v Speaker 7>is Martha Stewart. What if she's on TV and has

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<v Speaker 7>an empire and it's all fake? And so they love

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<v Speaker 7>that take, and so off we went to the races.

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<v Speaker 3>He got a writer to work up the script in television.

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<v Speaker 8>It was It was great because you can get your

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<v Speaker 8>stuff made.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Janet Brownew, one of the all time great

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<v Speaker 3>Bards of TV movies, writer on Elouise at the Plaza,

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve Dates of Christmas, Days of Our Lives and the

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<v Speaker 3>uncredited rewrite of Tim Allens the Santa Claus all Brownew

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<v Speaker 3>she loved the original Christmas in Connecticut. I mean it is.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a charming and in fairst to me, the original

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<v Speaker 8>draft was very close.

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<v Speaker 3>Janet wrote the draft of the script for Stan's remake.

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<v Speaker 1>And we turn it in and they go, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is do me in a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 7>So now I have and I'm I have a nice

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<v Speaker 7>little Christmas programmer and nothing more.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the middle of nineteen ninety one in Hollywood. Janet

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<v Speaker 3>and Stan's low budget television movie remake isn't really the

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing to get people talking, but they're making progress.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got the old school movie star Diane Cannon cast

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<v Speaker 3>in the lead as the Martha Stewart character, and an

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<v Speaker 3>offer out to a director. And then one day his

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<v Speaker 3>phone rings. His assistant says, it's a big Hollywood agent

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<v Speaker 3>named Lou Pitt.

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<v Speaker 7>Now I understand I'm in the television movie business. These

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<v Speaker 7>guys are never calling me, so if they do call.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, it's never good.

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<v Speaker 7>And and he he gets on the phone and he says,

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<v Speaker 7>the other director for your Christmas in Connecticut movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, uh, well.

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<v Speaker 7>Almost yeah, we may have an offer out And he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>Well if he doesn't say yes, I want you to consider

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<v Speaker 7>my client. And I go okay, and wait to hear

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<v Speaker 7>the name, and I go who He goes, Arl Schwarzenegger,

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<v Speaker 7>and I burst out laughly.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was totally shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>Lou Pitt, legendary agent Arnald Schwarzenegger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. No, seriously, is this a joke? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>a joke?

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<v Speaker 7>He goes, no, seriously, and he goes, I'm Schwartzeker's not

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<v Speaker 7>going at Christmas movie for tat.

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<v Speaker 3>To be clear. Arnold had just finished shooting James Cameron's

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<v Speaker 3>epic Terminator two Asta La Vista Baby. Terminator two is

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<v Speaker 3>the one where Arnold Schwarzenegger plays a killer cyborg sent

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<v Speaker 3>from the future to protect young John Conner from a

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<v Speaker 3>different killer cyborg also sent from the future to kill him.

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<v Speaker 3>As you can imagine such a plot necessitates a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of elaborate production work. He was movie making on a

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<v Speaker 3>scale that was practically unheard of, especially in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 9>The production actually changed the course of a river to

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<v Speaker 9>shoot high speed chases in the extensive clood control channels

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<v Speaker 9>of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, back to Stan and Lou the agent.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, Lou, why on earth were Arnold Swartz there?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Well, here's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold Schwarzenegger was forty four years old, he had two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody is an action hero forever. Maybe it was time

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<v Speaker 3>to explore some alternatives.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he was tired after tea two and he

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<v Speaker 1>said to Blue I would like to direct a movie.

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<v Speaker 9>The directing thing was kind of out of the box,

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<v Speaker 9>at a left field, and.

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<v Speaker 7>They said, well, okay, we'll put together a big feature act.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes, no, no, no, I want low risk. If I

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<v Speaker 7>do a terrible job, I don't want anyone to be upset.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want a big budget, and I want it

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<v Speaker 7>to be family friendly because I don't want anything to

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<v Speaker 7>be controversial nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want something very simple. And the only one that.

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<v Speaker 7>Fit the bill was Christmas, Connecticut. So I said okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I'll I'll call you if this guy passes. And I

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<v Speaker 7>ham the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, my parts.

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<v Speaker 9>Jumping out of min I go what and and I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I read it.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he'd like it, so get me an offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Stan gets the green light from the executives at TNT.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some negotiating and they offer Schwartzenegger one hundred thousand bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one night stands phone rings.

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<v Speaker 7>I pick it up and I hear Sam brooks, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>please hold for Armschzenegger and now serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see my heart beating, and he goes hello.

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<v Speaker 1>I go Arnold, are you're the guy with this Christmas script?

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<v Speaker 1>I said yes. He says it's fantastic. I'd love to direct.

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<v Speaker 1>I go okay.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes, but I have to shoot in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 7>knight to do it in these days, and he goes

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<v Speaker 7>a nice some notes of the script.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, can you be here in an hour?

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<v Speaker 3>And I go, uh no.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes, can you be on Wednesday? I go, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I could be there on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes over for a meeting at Arnold's offices in

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<v Speaker 3>Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm going to see me on Wednesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>you walk in and there's this giant lobby and and

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing you see is the exoskeleton, the metal

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<v Speaker 1>thing with the red eyes from Terminator. So there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the posters are up on the wall, but

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<v Speaker 7>there's no doubt. When you walk in and you see

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<v Speaker 7>this seven foot thing, you go, oh, craft, I know

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<v Speaker 7>where I am. My heart's beating and I go in

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<v Speaker 7>and he's in his office, which is massive. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>you know, signs.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a football field, and he's on one. You walk

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<v Speaker 1>in on this end and he's on the other ends.

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<v Speaker 7>You go walk past all the you know, the props

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff, and then he's at a big, huge desk

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<v Speaker 7>with a big giant chair, and behind him is a

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<v Speaker 7>bookshelf but with all of the Mister Universe awards, not

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<v Speaker 7>film stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all his bodybuilding awards.

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<v Speaker 7>And I remember we were going through the script and

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<v Speaker 7>I said, hey, I want to use the restroom and

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<v Speaker 7>he pointed to me by putting up this bicep and

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<v Speaker 7>pointing it like this, and his bicep comes cleaning.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes this, dot what And I go, was that

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<v Speaker 1>just to show me your boy step? And he goes

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<v Speaker 1>I have to show the you know, the guns whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I can.

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<v Speaker 7>And I realized, okay, so this guy definitely has a

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<v Speaker 7>sense of heart by himself.

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<v Speaker 3>They sit down, Arnold has notes on the script he

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<v Speaker 3>will he wanted a.

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<v Speaker 7>More humor and a little more jeopardy, and so we

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<v Speaker 7>added in like this like sort of big action sequence

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<v Speaker 7>at the beginning where he rescues.

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<v Speaker 3>The kid, and all of a sudden, Janet Brownell, who

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<v Speaker 3>wrote the original script for the remake, is looking at

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<v Speaker 3>a very different movie.

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<v Speaker 8>The whole thing took this like one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 8>degree turn.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, it was just like what is and

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<v Speaker 1>Stan just did not want.

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<v Speaker 8>To lose him, And I'm like, okay, I truly don't

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<v Speaker 8>see this.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it gets a film green light, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold wants them to get someone else to come in

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<v Speaker 3>and punch up the script.

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<v Speaker 7>He wanted more humor, and as it happened, my best

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<v Speaker 7>friend in the world had written.

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<v Speaker 3>Commando Commando, the nineteen eighty five action film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger,

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<v Speaker 3>which the critic from the La Times referred to as

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<v Speaker 3>a quote gory crowd pleaser and a glorified fireworks display.

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<v Speaker 7>And Arnold love them and said, if you think you

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<v Speaker 7>get him to do a comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Past, Jeff Low, the friend who wrote Commando, gets hired

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<v Speaker 3>to do the rewrite with his writing partner.

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<v Speaker 1>We walk in.

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<v Speaker 5>He's sitting on a white couch maybe it's literally the

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<v Speaker 5>length of the biggest limousine you've ever seen in your life,

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<v Speaker 5>and he has his feed up on this white porcelain

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<v Speaker 5>marble table. He's got a big cigar in his mouth

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<v Speaker 5>and scripts all around him, and he doesn't say hello,

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't introduce himself, he doesn't do anything. He just

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<v Speaker 5>the first thing out of his mouth is, so, what

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<v Speaker 5>of you guys been doing since Commando?

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly not going to the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have to say, everyone in this episode is

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<v Speaker 3>going to do their own Schwartzenegger impression, which is good

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<v Speaker 3>because even though we couldn't land an interview with him,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's here with us in spirit. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>They settle in and start rewriting the film Commando style.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's where things kind of went off the rails

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<v Speaker 8>for me personally, because it's like, Okay, this is becoming

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<v Speaker 8>a completely different thing. It just Schwarzenegger eyed into like

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<v Speaker 8>this thing that was bigger than life.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, she just did an amazing job. We didn't

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<v Speaker 5>make any real big structural changes.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all hers, but a dialogue pass and goes through

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<v Speaker 6>it and try to find more Old's vision.

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<v Speaker 3>They start burning through the script. A big job for

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<v Speaker 3>any director is giving notes on the rewrites. Schwarzenegger was

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<v Speaker 3>calling in help from his director friends, including legendary comedy

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<v Speaker 3>director Ivan Reitman, the guy who did Ghostbusters. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 3>working to realize Arnold's vision.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you have to understand that on Commando he would

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<v Speaker 5>do this all the time. He would go, I have

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<v Speaker 5>a great idea. Listen, this is what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>When the guy comes at me.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to throw a buzzsaw at him and it

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<v Speaker 10>chops off his arm, and then I'm going to pick

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<v Speaker 10>up his arm and punch me in his face with.

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<v Speaker 5>His old arm.

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<v Speaker 10>And we would go, well, we like the bus off part.

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<v Speaker 10>Can we just do the bus off art? So like,

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<v Speaker 10>our job is not to go I maybe that's not

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<v Speaker 10>gonna work. Our job is to make it work. And

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<v Speaker 10>it doesn't help that the next day he would say, Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>We're doing really well, We're really getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really coming to where I wanted to be. So

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<v Speaker 1>I gave it to Steve It.

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<v Speaker 10>And Stephen talked to me last night and he says,

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<v Speaker 10>I have to really be careful that and this is

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<v Speaker 10>what I want you to do. And again I'm like,

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<v Speaker 10>is Stephen the guy at the jim is Stephen?

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<v Speaker 5>Who is Steve It?

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<v Speaker 10>And then suddenly as you go, you know, as he

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<v Speaker 10>starts to sort of talk more, you go, he's talking

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<v Speaker 10>about Steven Spielberg.

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<v Speaker 3>This is beginning to look like a train nobody would

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<v Speaker 3>step in front of. Back at T and T, the

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<v Speaker 3>executives had a dim sense of what was going on.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not it's not has done.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Lori Posmantier, one of the TNT executives.

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<v Speaker 9>Whether you're famous or not, as a director, that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To let somebody go and change things as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we're change.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, they've cast the rest of the film. Joining Diane

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<v Speaker 3>Cannon would be Hollywood screwball legend Tony Curtis, probably best

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<v Speaker 3>known for playing opposite Marilyn Monroe in Some Like It Hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with him would be ex country music star Chris Christofferson.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's TNT's senior vice president of production at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Lombardo.

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<v Speaker 12>Even when they cast it, I thought, well, that is

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<v Speaker 12>the weirdest cast I ever heard of. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 12>idea that these people fit together made no sense at all.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, Diane Cannon and Chriscus Dobinson in the same frame.

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<v Speaker 12>It makes the star is Born when he's holding Barbara

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<v Speaker 12>streissad look organic.

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<v Speaker 3>So armed with one of the all time weirdest, most

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<v Speaker 3>stacked casts in the history of film, a comparatively small

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<v Speaker 3>budget of three million dollars, a slot on an upstart

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<v Speaker 3>cable network, and a script based on nineteen forty screwball

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<v Speaker 3>comedy that's been punched up by two of the writers

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<v Speaker 3>behind a big eighties blockbuster, An Austrian former bodybuilder, fresh

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<v Speaker 3>off his repeat performance as a time traveling cyborg, prepared

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<v Speaker 3>to direct his first Christmas film.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't, as a TV movie producer ever get near

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<v Speaker 7>anything this hot, y, You just don't.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, we're we're all a little nervous about the

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<v Speaker 9>whole thing, you know, because it's like you're playing with

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<v Speaker 9>matches and you know, oh yeah, that's that Arnold direct this.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's like for US three million dollars was

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, I don't know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>He wanted to prove that he could be a director.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone was about to find out whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>he could. Christmas in Connecticut the remake began filming about

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<v Speaker 3>two months before Christmas in Los Angeles. Because Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 3>had never before directed a future film, though let the

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<v Speaker 3>record show he had directed an episode of the TV

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<v Speaker 3>show Tales from the Crypt, the production arranged for things

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<v Speaker 3>to film more or less in the order they happen

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<v Speaker 3>in the film. There's a lot less to keep track

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<v Speaker 3>of continuity wise that way, but this also posed a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the anxieties of adapting a great work of

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<v Speaker 3>art is figuring out how to make it your own.

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<v Speaker 3>The nineteen ninety two made for TV remake of Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut does this immediately by introducing its male lead,

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<v Speaker 3>a park ranger named Jefferson Jones, mid workout routine in

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<v Speaker 3>his mountain cabin. If you're looking for signs that this

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<v Speaker 3>is not your grandmother's Christmas in Connecticut, the site of

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Christofferson as Jefferson Jones, sweating after busting out some

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<v Speaker 3>chin ups on a beam in his cabin is your

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<v Speaker 3>first warning. A man on the television offers some brisk

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<v Speaker 3>exposition while he cools down.

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<v Speaker 4>In the last hour, experts predict this shouldn't be the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest storm to hit the Rockies in the last decade.

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<v Speaker 4>More than four feet of snow has anticipated to blanket

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<v Speaker 4>the area in the next twenty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>The phone rings. Another ranger is calling to tell Jones

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<v Speaker 3>a kid has gotten lost in the blizzard. He has

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<v Speaker 3>to go out and find him. This is the fabled

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<v Speaker 3>action sequence Schwarzenegger had requested. They shot the blizzard on

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<v Speaker 3>a sound stage. It's the moment Jefferson Jones becomes a hero,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why he gets invited to be a guest

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<v Speaker 3>of Elizabeth Blaine's for a Christmas special in Connecticut. It's

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<v Speaker 3>gotta look epic. It's got to have that Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 3>feeling unfortunately terminator. This is not Here's Jim Wilberger, director

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<v Speaker 3>of production.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, there's a scene where Christofferson, you know, suddenly has

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<v Speaker 9>rescued the kid and you see him roll down this

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<v Speaker 9>little hill of snow which was shot on stage and

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<v Speaker 9>trying to make more of more of it because there

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't that much set for that little hill, and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and then suddenly you see all the people rush in

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<v Speaker 9>to rescue you know. I mean, this was just not

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<v Speaker 9>good blocking, okay, and that's just an experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Schwarzenegger wanted Jeopardy, but this kind of looks like a

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<v Speaker 3>snowball fight gone awry. Jones stumbles over a very small

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<v Speaker 3>hill holding a child that looks like it might be

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<v Speaker 3>a mannequin. He's groaning and yelling, but his lips aren't moving,

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<v Speaker 3>so tough start. Luckily, though, a lot of the film

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<v Speaker 3>is set inside Elizabeth Blaine's fake Connecticut house where she's

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<v Speaker 3>shooting a Christmas special in celebration of Jones. The bulk

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<v Speaker 3>production happened there, so the whole crew set up at

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<v Speaker 3>a house in South Pasadena for the real work. This

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<v Speaker 3>introduced Arnold to the second problem of directing actor ego

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<v Speaker 3>management in the issue of his trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold's trailer was like a house on wheels.

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<v Speaker 13>It was literally like you'd look at it from the

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<v Speaker 13>outside and you'd say, wow, that's got all kinds of

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<v Speaker 13>pop outs and the roof went off and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you got inside, it was literally like you

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<v Speaker 1>had just walked into like the Greystone mansion.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's probably almost three times as wide as

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<v Speaker 9>a normal trailer, and that it was the length that

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<v Speaker 9>became the issue. Diane comes in and she says, why

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<v Speaker 9>is Arnold's trailer bigger than my trailer? Nobody's supposed to

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<v Speaker 9>have a bigger trailer than me.

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<v Speaker 3>Diane Cannon was the star of the film, but she

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<v Speaker 3>was maybe realizing that this production was all about the director. Schwarzenegger, though,

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<v Speaker 3>was dealing with other problems. Namely, he had chosen one

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<v Speaker 3>of the hardest genres for his first major directing for

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<v Speaker 3>a screwball comedy is like dancing on the head of

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<v Speaker 3>a pin. It thrives on chaos, but it has to

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<v Speaker 3>be a kind of controlled chaos. With his big personality cast,

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<v Speaker 3>low budget, short timeline, and hastily rewritten script, Schwarzenegger had

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<v Speaker 3>an excess of chaos and a minimum of control. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you have one somewhat disgruntled actress portraying fake Martha Stewart,

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<v Speaker 3>and another who's a macho park ranger, but who, for

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<v Speaker 3>no apparent reason, relays this backstory part way through the movie.

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<v Speaker 14>Actually, where I moved to Colorado, I lived in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 14>I grew up there, taught comparative literature at the University

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<v Speaker 14>of Container Really, I got offered tenure and head of

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<v Speaker 14>the department. And it's what I thought I wanted. That's

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<v Speaker 14>being caged in by concrete and crowds for the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>This is I'm pretty sure the only time in the

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<v Speaker 3>entire film Jefferson Jones is past as chair of the

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<v Speaker 3>University of Chicago's comparative literature department is mentioned. And I

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<v Speaker 3>love Chris Kristofferson, but most of the rest of his

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<v Speaker 3>performance veers between stiff and oddly sexually charged.

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<v Speaker 9>When he starts smearing the pine staff on her neck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that it's it's it's just kind of transcendently weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, not to mention his two times he's like staring

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<v Speaker 9>at her butt.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's an extensive shot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't buy that at Limingdon.

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<v Speaker 15>You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got two characters who really just barely hang together,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have to direct them in tightly choreographed

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<v Speaker 3>zany sequences that have got to feel plausible yet also hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>For instance, the scene with the baby remember in Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut. Elizabeth is a total fraud. She doesn't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to cook, it's not even her house in Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's got this fake, staged family with her, including

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<v Speaker 3>a fake baby. She had to keep up appearances for

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<v Speaker 3>the sake of her column. In the original film, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lovely scene where she and Jefferson Jones give her

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<v Speaker 3>fake baby a bath. She a supposed domestic goddess, is

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<v Speaker 3>meant to bathe her child, which she suspiciously has no

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<v Speaker 3>clue how to do. He steps in and does it

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<v Speaker 3>for her like a total pro. It's part of why

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<v Speaker 3>she falls in love with him, and because it's so

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<v Speaker 3>well executed in the original film, we believe they're following

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<v Speaker 3>in love in this totally implausible moment.

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<v Speaker 7>So oh, refer though she's eating the sil would like

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<v Speaker 7>do what.

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<v Speaker 9>He her they are doing.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh really, you'd make a wonderful father.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister Jehan, You're you're not married yourself by any chance?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you?

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<v Speaker 5>No cards are stacked against me.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess every time I meet a girl I like,

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<v Speaker 4>it turns out she's already married.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's too bad now.

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<v Speaker 3>This also happens in the Arnold Schwarzenegger version.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should finish up for finish.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I just had the most wonderful idea,

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<v Speaker 4>How would you like to bathere?

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<v Speaker 16>Me?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 17>I think it'd be fun for you here.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens next is the greatest travesty in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of bath time. It's as if you gave two aliens

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<v Speaker 3>a baby and said, give this a bath, not realizing

0:24:53.236 --> 0:24:55.476
<v Speaker 3>that on the planet there from not only are there

0:24:55.476 --> 0:24:58.836
<v Speaker 3>no babies or baths, but actually there's not even water.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you remember about that?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, some of that was improvised.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens is they just drenched the baby in shampoo

0:25:07.836 --> 0:25:10.116
<v Speaker 3>and then they barely wash in of it out. On

0:25:10.156 --> 0:25:12.196
<v Speaker 3>the bad scale, it's two rubber duckies out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>But the premise of the scene is that Jefferson Jones

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<v Speaker 3>is crushing it.

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<v Speaker 9>It was pretty hilarious, I thought, and also very clumsy,

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<v Speaker 9>and they really grouped up with the kid's hair.

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<v Speaker 6>My god, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't know, I'm brought to a chap here's some soap, sweetie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a director thing. I mean, that is a flat

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<v Speaker 1>out director fail.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that right.

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<v Speaker 3>But retake the scene and.

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<v Speaker 8>There probably were three or four versions of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one he chose.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's not like that was the only one.

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<v Speaker 4>That you're off the shit of that for a bachelor,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you're sure you didn't have a whole stel

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<v Speaker 4>of kids hidden somewhere.

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<v Speaker 14>Nursed a couple of bear clubs to their mother came back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like on SNL when the actors break and laugh

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<v Speaker 3>when Elizabeth's like, I'm not sure if we got all

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<v Speaker 3>the soap out, and Jefferson's like, well we didn't. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the true reaction and it must be improvised. But then

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<v Speaker 3>they go back to the scripted version where Jones is

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<v Speaker 3>doing a great job. Most of the people on set

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<v Speaker 3>have some kind of moment.

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<v Speaker 9>Like this, you know, the forest with the snow and

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<v Speaker 9>the sleigh that comes along, and there's even one shot

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<v Speaker 9>I noticed where you can see the wheels under the sleigh.

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<v Speaker 18>I remember the day I was there, they were filming

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<v Speaker 18>that scene where chaos RUPs, you know, and the tree

0:26:33.076 --> 0:26:35.236
<v Speaker 18>falls down and all that. We had to do that

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<v Speaker 18>scene quite a number of times. It was as chaotic

0:26:39.196 --> 0:26:42.036
<v Speaker 18>as the scene is, but behind the scenes it was

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<v Speaker 18>even more so.

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<v Speaker 12>It's a little like opening a bolode factory for cultural

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<v Speaker 12>you know, it's sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of like, what's going on in there?

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<v Speaker 15>Nothing good? Nothing good, don't ask anything. So it was

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<v Speaker 15>kind of hectic on set. And yet I think you

0:27:00.596 --> 0:27:03.396
<v Speaker 15>can hear in people's voices how much they love telling

0:27:03.436 --> 0:27:06.556
<v Speaker 15>this story. Pretty much across the board, this was a

0:27:06.556 --> 0:27:09.556
<v Speaker 15>happy memory for the people I spoke to, not least

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<v Speaker 15>of all because they never lost sight of just how

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<v Speaker 15>improbable it all was.

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<v Speaker 5>And then in the middle of all this is Arnold

0:27:16.156 --> 0:27:20.036
<v Speaker 5>running around going, you know, move the top or overhead,

0:27:20.156 --> 0:27:22.716
<v Speaker 5>I do this over here, let's go do this. No,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it could be ten times funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come on.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's Arnold's voice, you know, just bellowing out. And

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<v Speaker 5>that was the other thing that I really remember was

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<v Speaker 5>that while this is happening, while.

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<v Speaker 19>We're making this little trainy movie, he is in theaters

0:27:45.756 --> 0:27:52.036
<v Speaker 19>with Terminator two and it's doing numbers that no one

0:27:52.116 --> 0:27:53.276
<v Speaker 19>has ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 5>And we were on set when it crossed five hundred

0:27:58.836 --> 0:28:01.556
<v Speaker 5>million dollars. But when you're standing next to the guy

0:28:02.156 --> 0:28:06.676
<v Speaker 5>who's the star of that movie and his major concern

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<v Speaker 5>is whether or not.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't focus forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go the forehead thing. You're not the first person

0:28:14.916 --> 0:28:18.756
<v Speaker 3>to bring that up several people mentioned to me that

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold Schwartzenegger's favorite put down was to call someone a forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually made it into the movie. When Elizabeth Blaine

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<v Speaker 3>and Jefferson Jones get pulled over by the cops mid

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<v Speaker 3>sleigh ride, the one where you can see the wheels,

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<v Speaker 3>this happens.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your hands? Where I can say, you're both under arrest?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, come on, you foreheads, get him up?

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<v Speaker 4>You what?

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<v Speaker 3>This is actually a big part of why I love

0:28:41.956 --> 0:28:45.116
<v Speaker 3>this movie. It has a kind of free jazz improvisitory

0:28:45.236 --> 0:28:49.356
<v Speaker 3>quality to it. It's oddly self referential and also very sweet.

0:28:49.836 --> 0:28:51.716
<v Speaker 3>It's like how you can hear in someone's voice when

0:28:51.716 --> 0:28:55.996
<v Speaker 3>they're smiling. That's how this movie feels. Because, even at

0:28:55.996 --> 0:28:58.636
<v Speaker 3>the risk of himself being labeled a forehead who couldn't

0:28:58.636 --> 0:29:02.436
<v Speaker 3>direct the movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger was showing up every day

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<v Speaker 3>and putting in his all for the film, Buffs and

0:29:05.156 --> 0:29:07.196
<v Speaker 3>the crew. It was a dream come true just to

0:29:07.276 --> 0:29:10.756
<v Speaker 3>work with him or with a legend like Tony Curtis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a trip to oz that I

0:29:14.196 --> 0:29:16.716
<v Speaker 1>knew was short lived, but it was.

0:29:16.676 --> 0:29:19.556
<v Speaker 7>Something I was going to take in and enjoy them

0:29:19.676 --> 0:29:20.836
<v Speaker 7>as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>After twenty days of shooting the film wrapped, they had

0:29:25.036 --> 0:29:28.676
<v Speaker 3>a party at Arnold Schwartzeninger's restaurant. It was around Christmas time,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all got sweatshirts with the name of the

0:29:30.556 --> 0:29:31.556
<v Speaker 3>film on the front.

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<v Speaker 9>And on the back was a picture of Arnold with

0:29:37.476 --> 0:29:45.876
<v Speaker 9>a Santa hat on, wearing sunglasses and saying something about

0:29:47.396 --> 0:29:50.156
<v Speaker 9>I can't remember the full thing anybody used for you forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Later, Jim was kind enough to send me a photo

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<v Speaker 3>of the sweatshirt. It said on the back more snow

0:29:57.196 --> 0:30:02.436
<v Speaker 3>u forehead. There's my Schwartzeneger impression with the film in

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<v Speaker 3>the can. Post production and premieres loomed. That's after the break.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get to the premiere of Arnold Schwarzenegger's nineteen

0:30:20.556 --> 0:30:23.396
<v Speaker 3>ninety two Christmas and Connecticut remake, I want to tell

0:30:23.436 --> 0:30:25.596
<v Speaker 3>you about something that happened earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for coming, Thank you Mitch for coming

0:30:29.476 --> 0:30:31.956
<v Speaker 2>down from Try Yeah, thanks for having me here.

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<v Speaker 3>Malcolm interviewed Mitch Album live on stage at the ninety

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<v Speaker 3>second Street Y Album is the best selling author of

0:30:38.756 --> 0:30:42.316
<v Speaker 3>some ungodly number of books, but he's probably most famous

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<v Speaker 3>for Tuesdays with Maury. He and Malcolm were there to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about his new novel about the Holocaust, The Little Liar.

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<v Speaker 3>They were warming up with some Mitch backstory about his

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<v Speaker 3>time as a musician in New York.

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<v Speaker 11>I tried the whole starving musician thing, and I played

0:30:58.436 --> 0:31:00.836
<v Speaker 11>in all the clubs around here on Monday nights.

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<v Speaker 3>I was backstage at this event peering out. I hadn't

0:31:04.436 --> 0:31:07.396
<v Speaker 3>read Mitch's book. I was up to something else.

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<v Speaker 2>We should probably do this before we get too far

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<v Speaker 2>afield on the music thing. If you're talking so much,

0:31:15.116 --> 0:31:17.916
<v Speaker 2>you will note that behind you. Yeah, there's a corg.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, the audience of people who had come

0:31:21.476 --> 0:31:23.476
<v Speaker 3>that night to hear the author of Tuesdays with Maury

0:31:23.516 --> 0:31:27.676
<v Speaker 3>discussed the Holocaust noticed the electric piano behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have a request that you play one of

0:31:32.916 --> 0:31:39.036
<v Speaker 2>your most famous compositions, which you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Cooking for Two from the legendary Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>Schwarzenegger nineteen ninety two, made for TV movie Christmas in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, can you see the recognition?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it was my keyboard, and yes I had planted

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<v Speaker 3>it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch, No, no, this For some reason, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>My colleague Ben is obsessed with this and really wanted

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<v Speaker 2>us to do this, and I thought, how great would

0:32:04.516 --> 0:32:05.956
<v Speaker 2>it be for you to sing one of our songs,

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<v Speaker 2>just like just give us a little taste.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I have to tell you this story. Tell tell Okay.

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<v Speaker 11>So after I got out of the music business, I

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<v Speaker 11>had a college roommate who went into the movie business.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be Stanley m Brooks, executive producer of Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut. Stan and Mitch were roommates at Brandeis.

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<v Speaker 11>And he knew that I was a musician, and he

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<v Speaker 11>was making a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger as a producer,

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<v Speaker 11>and Schwartzenegger was the director of Christmas in Connecticut. The

0:32:36.236 --> 0:32:42.276
<v Speaker 11>remake sounds about as good as it was, I think,

0:32:42.916 --> 0:32:46.876
<v Speaker 11>And they needed as a song because she played Diane

0:32:47.716 --> 0:32:51.916
<v Speaker 11>Cannon played the lead and she was a cook on

0:32:51.996 --> 0:32:54.516
<v Speaker 11>TV or whatever, so the song had to be about food.

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<v Speaker 11>And they wanted to use Harry Connick's Recipe for Love

0:32:59.916 --> 0:33:02.436
<v Speaker 11>or something like that, but they couldn't afford it. So

0:33:02.676 --> 0:33:05.076
<v Speaker 11>stan calls me and says, we need a song that's

0:33:05.156 --> 0:33:08.596
<v Speaker 11>kind of upbeat about food for Arnold Schwartzenegger's movie. Can

0:33:08.636 --> 0:33:10.276
<v Speaker 11>you do it? You know, I said, well, what do

0:33:10.316 --> 0:33:11.516
<v Speaker 11>you need it by Thursday?

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<v Speaker 15>You know?

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<v Speaker 11>It was Tuesday, you know. So I just went and

0:33:16.716 --> 0:33:18.916
<v Speaker 11>wrote a little song. And my wife is a singer,

0:33:18.996 --> 0:33:24.396
<v Speaker 11>a fantastic singer, and I said, honey, can you sing

0:33:24.436 --> 0:33:27.076
<v Speaker 11>this song because we don't have time to go find

0:33:27.076 --> 0:33:29.516
<v Speaker 11>anybody else. And he listened to it and he said,

0:33:29.916 --> 0:33:33.396
<v Speaker 11>I liked a bun but the girl. And that's how

0:33:33.676 --> 0:33:35.756
<v Speaker 11>the song was chosen. Yeah, yeah, I want you to

0:33:35.756 --> 0:33:37.236
<v Speaker 11>play it. I really think you should.

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<v Speaker 18>So it went.

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<v Speaker 16>Now, remember it had to be about food. Food, So

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<v Speaker 16>it went, let's go to the kitchen. I got something fixing, admanizing,

0:33:55.716 --> 0:34:03.396
<v Speaker 16>and do here's a flood. We're cooking for two. They're

0:34:03.516 --> 0:34:06.996
<v Speaker 16>inside the oven, something warm and loving. Friends would laugh

0:34:07.036 --> 0:34:07.956
<v Speaker 16>and they knew.

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<v Speaker 11>That it's true. We're cooking for two. Here's the corn bridge.

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<v Speaker 11>I was a souper wid girl, left nombers every night.

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<v Speaker 16>Ah, but once I tasted your kisses, I was dining

0:34:24.156 --> 0:34:25.236
<v Speaker 16>my candlelight.

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<v Speaker 11>Here's a recipe for all the world to see.

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<v Speaker 1>We take some me and some you that.

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<v Speaker 16>It's too we're cooking for two.

0:34:36.716 --> 0:34:56.676
<v Speaker 11>I love you. We're cooking for two. That definitely ranks

0:34:56.676 --> 0:34:58.996
<v Speaker 11>amongst one of the most embarrassing things I've ever DoD.

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<v Speaker 3>They planned to play it over the credits with a

0:35:03.996 --> 0:35:07.276
<v Speaker 3>Mitch Album closing track in hand. Christmas in Connecticut was

0:35:07.316 --> 0:35:10.596
<v Speaker 3>almost ready to debut. Most made for TV movies you

0:35:10.676 --> 0:35:13.436
<v Speaker 3>just put out on television, but not this one.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, TV movies don't have screenings.

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<v Speaker 7>If we have a screening, it's like ten people and

0:35:19.916 --> 0:35:21.636
<v Speaker 7>you know, you were in a screening room somewhere like

0:35:22.476 --> 0:35:25.156
<v Speaker 7>this was the big theater at the DGA, which holds

0:35:25.276 --> 0:35:28.276
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, a thousand people, massive screen and there's

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<v Speaker 7>a huge red carpet and a press line.

0:35:33.436 --> 0:35:37.596
<v Speaker 18>We had two theaters going and there were phil When I.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell you that there's never been a television movie before since,

0:35:40.516 --> 0:35:42.996
<v Speaker 7>they had a press line. And he's walking down working

0:35:43.076 --> 0:35:45.436
<v Speaker 7>the press and like, you know, and I you know,

0:35:45.556 --> 0:35:46.876
<v Speaker 7>thet Blee person.

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<v Speaker 1>This is d Ambrose executive producer h Arnold.

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<v Speaker 3>According to san Ivan, Reitman and James Cameron were there,

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<v Speaker 3>along with the whole slew of Hollywood Royalty. The screening

0:35:57.276 --> 0:35:59.436
<v Speaker 3>was in LA. It was a media sensation.

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<v Speaker 8>Watch out Hollywood.

0:36:01.156 --> 0:36:03.556
<v Speaker 5>There's a new director in town and he's used.

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<v Speaker 8>To making a big impact that is in front of

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<v Speaker 8>the camera.

0:36:06.316 --> 0:36:12.316
<v Speaker 4>When you act, sees such talent that directs as I've

0:36:12.356 --> 0:36:13.956
<v Speaker 4>worked with, it inspires you.

0:36:15.316 --> 0:36:18.236
<v Speaker 3>Janet Brown, Now the screenwriter was not having sent for

0:36:18.276 --> 0:36:18.636
<v Speaker 3>you to night.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember sitting at the screening with my agent and

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<v Speaker 8>I was like crying.

0:36:24.116 --> 0:36:26.676
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was like, oh my god, why were

0:36:26.716 --> 0:36:27.236
<v Speaker 3>you crying?

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<v Speaker 9>I get so bad and my name is on this.

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<v Speaker 8>My agent was very fast to get me a drink

0:36:33.236 --> 0:36:35.636
<v Speaker 8>at that point. I just remember outside there was kind

0:36:35.676 --> 0:36:37.956
<v Speaker 8>of a Christmas theme sort of party, and just like

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<v Speaker 8>I need to get out of.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, but there was no putting the genie back in

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<v Speaker 3>the bottle. TNT was running promo's NonStop.

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<v Speaker 4>I love romantic comedies, so I made one myself, Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>in Connecticut. It's a romantic comedy with all the trimmings.

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<v Speaker 1>What in the world could comfortably go wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas in Connectic directed by Arnold schwartzening you have a

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<v Speaker 4>problem with that? TNT exclusive premiere Monday, April thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you caught that, but the film

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<v Speaker 3>came out in April, one week before Easter. As one

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<v Speaker 3>review put it, quote, don't ask me why a Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>movie is premiering in April. As his then wife Maria

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<v Speaker 3>Shreiver reflected, he just does. He's a big one on.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think about it or talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes, I think we want to scud

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<v Speaker 1>into it again. That was too much fun.

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<v Speaker 7>I go, okay, I go see if I can organ

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<v Speaker 7>I go no, I want to ski in Washington with

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<v Speaker 7>my friend Jack Lent.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we all fight Washington.

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<v Speaker 7>And uh and it was it was a who's who

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<v Speaker 7>of Washington, and it was senators and members of tabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a seated dinner and I remember my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I sit down. We've been working the rooms.

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<v Speaker 7>So we sit last at our table and the guy

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<v Speaker 7>next to me has got like a dress can of

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<v Speaker 7>form on and I say, hey, Stan Brooks, I'm the producer,

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<v Speaker 7>and he goes, hey, Oliver North.

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<v Speaker 3>Oliver North of Iran contra fame. The film was a

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<v Speaker 3>big hit in the belt Way. Suff I sit to

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<v Speaker 3>say this made for television Christmas movie had an unusually

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<v Speaker 3>big reception, but it also didn't really do much to

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<v Speaker 3>establish Arnold Schwartzenegger as a director. The reviews were mixed.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm looking at IMDb right now it's like the

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<v Speaker 9>rating is four point eight out of ten and they're

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<v Speaker 9>not far off.

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<v Speaker 1>We nobody had any Oh my god, we're making it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful life.

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<v Speaker 3>I realize I've had a lot of fun with this

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<v Speaker 3>movie and gun to my head. Do I think it's good? No?

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<v Speaker 3>But do I love it? Obviously yes, because it's so

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<v Speaker 3>totally weird and overcommitted to its bit that it has

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of joyfulness to it that honestly gets me

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<v Speaker 3>in the Christmas spirit and at its core, like the

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<v Speaker 3>best Christmas films, The story behind the movie is a

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<v Speaker 3>story of love and friendship between Arnold Schwartzenegger and San Brooks,

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<v Speaker 3>two men brought together by a love of making movies.

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<v Speaker 3>After the film, Stan and Arnold stayed in touch. Stan

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<v Speaker 3>even moved into Arnold Schwartzenegger's office building. The kids played

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<v Speaker 3>football together, and even though they never made another movie together,

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<v Speaker 3>their collaboration had one more act. Almost ten years to

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<v Speaker 3>the day from when Christmas and Connecticut began shooting, Arnold

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<v Speaker 3>Schwarzenegger became the governor of California. At the time, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of handwringing over an issue called runaway production.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of states had started offering tax breaks to lure

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<v Speaker 3>films into shooting somewhere other than California. It had become

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<v Speaker 3>a real problem for Hollywood as an industry town. This

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the crises Schwarzenegger would have to face

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<v Speaker 3>in his new role as governor. Now, the way people

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<v Speaker 3>talked about his becoming governor was the same way they

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<v Speaker 3>talked about his becoming a director, So it only makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense that he wanted stan Brooks in his administration.

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<v Speaker 13>So when he became governor, he was in about a

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<v Speaker 13>year and he called me and he said, how would

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<v Speaker 13>you like to be on the Film Commission? And I say, well,

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<v Speaker 13>that's a dumb idea. He goes why, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 13>because I don't shoot movies in California. I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 13>like the worst person you could put on the film

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<v Speaker 13>Commission because I take my movies out of state. And

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<v Speaker 13>he goes, oh, that's why we want to because we

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<v Speaker 13>want to try and pass the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 3>Stan joined the California Film Commission, and over the next

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<v Speaker 3>few years he was a key part of the lobbying

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<v Speaker 3>efforts to pass the tax credits that would make it

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<v Speaker 3>easier to film in California.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hard fight, and so I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>making a short film, a short documentary film where we

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed some of the families that left on why, and

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<v Speaker 1>that ended up being more powerful than any speech we

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<v Speaker 1>could make in their office.

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<v Speaker 3>The first tax credits passed in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been renewed ever since. So back to our original question,

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<v Speaker 3>why did Arnold Schwarzenegger direct to this bizarre one off

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas film? I found my answer in a story Stan

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<v Speaker 3>told me.

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<v Speaker 1>He says to me one night we finished around seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight, and he goes, well you're doing and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going home. He goes, he goes, Maria's making dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to come to the house. So oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we both jump in our cars and we drive

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<v Speaker 1>to Pacific Palis eate and at that dinner, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold turn to me. He says, you have a good town.

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<v Speaker 1>I own the stat Why don't get big speeches?

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, to be honest, I didn't get in

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<v Speaker 7>the business to make big, famous movies. I got in

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<v Speaker 7>the business to make movies, and I get to make

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<v Speaker 7>two or three a year if I mean the future business,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm lucky if I make one every other year.

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<v Speaker 1>Every three years. I go, I'm happy with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, well, that's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>The story really had honed for me because I get

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<v Speaker 3>what that's like to just love making something, even a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of improbably dense story about the making of the

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<v Speaker 3>remake of a Christmas movie. It's like Stan said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you love making movies or anything, it's just a gift

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<v Speaker 3>to get to make more, even if they're maybe not

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<v Speaker 3>the best, especially if it's clear how much fun you

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<v Speaker 3>had making when it is you're making. So to close,

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<v Speaker 3>let me just share one quote from the very last

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<v Speaker 3>page of Charles Dickens as a Christmas Carol, a passage

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<v Speaker 3>about Scrooge after he's seen the light quote. Some people

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<v Speaker 3>laughed to see the alteration in him, But he let

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<v Speaker 3>them laugh, and little heeded them, for he was wise

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<v Speaker 3>enough to know that nothing ever happened on this globe

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<v Speaker 3>for good, at which some people did not have their

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<v Speaker 3>fill of laughter. In the outset, his own heart laughed,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was quite enough for him. Maybe Stan and

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold didn't make It's a Wonderful Life, but it seems

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<v Speaker 3>to me like their own hearts were laughing. So from

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<v Speaker 3>all of us here at Revision's History. Happy Holidays, you foreheads,

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<v Speaker 3>See you in the New Year. Revisionist History is produced

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<v Speaker 3>by me Bennatt of Haffrey and Lucy Sullivan with Bird Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>Our editor is Karen Chakerji. Fact checking on this episode

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<v Speaker 3>by Sam Russick, a resident Schwarzenegger fan. Original scoring by

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<v Speaker 3>Luis Gara, mastering by Jake Krsky. Our executive producer is

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob Smith. Special thanks to Sarah Nis, David Arnott, Linda Berman,

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<v Speaker 3>Iris Grossman, and Scott Sassa. I'm Ben Mattahaffery.

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<v Speaker 2>Three two one.

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<v Speaker 17>We wish Eyal Berry Christmas. We wish you are mayor

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<v Speaker 17>me Christmas. We will you are Merry Christmas New

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<v Speaker 3>What we do, guys,