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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Everybody happy Foghasi Friday, And that's what Zach Taylor's performance

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Speaker 1: was tonight for the most part, because he had a

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Speaker 1: stretch in the second half where Bengals fans, I feel you.

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Speaker 2: You guys have been complaining to me for a long time.

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Speaker 2: And that was another game. You had the Ravens on

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Speaker 2: the ropes. You were killing them until you weren't, and

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Speaker 2: your head coach slash play caller popped his head in

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Speaker 2: and ruined your night. And then Jamar Chase try to

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Speaker 2: save you. I mean, that's Chase. Twenty three catches over

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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty yards and five touchdowns this year

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Speaker 2: against the Ravens. Lamar, I mean, Lamar and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: this year combined playing each other have to have for

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Speaker 2: a divisional opponent, the two greatest games if you just

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Speaker 2: combine their stats for the two games they played, probably

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Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL of a divisional opponent twice,

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Speaker 2: both quarterback stats. So it was a very entertaining second half.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens win because their offense is just incredible. Defensively,

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of issues and doesn't help that Kyle

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Speaker 2: Hamilton got hurt. So we will dive into the game,

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Speaker 2: dive into some other stuff from the NFL for this

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Speaker 2: upcoming weekend, and yeah, Fugazi Friday. You know, Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 2: gave an apology for what happened at Penn State, and

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Speaker 2: I understand where he's coming from. He's embarrassed, but I

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Speaker 2: do want to just dive into just general apologies to

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Speaker 2: just people, but not an individual just kind of thrown

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Speaker 2: made me scratch my head. And we've seen this happen

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Speaker 2: for a long time, like are they We'll dive into

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Speaker 2: it for a big Fugazi but stuck. You will join

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Speaker 2: us as well, picking some games.

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Speaker 3: My man.

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Speaker 2: My man's pretty red hot right now. Other than that,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. I honestly, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Where to start. So I think what we will do

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Speaker 2: is we will just start at the end of the

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Speaker 2: then go back to the end of the game. I

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Speaker 2: love that Zach Taylor went for two. You had to

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Speaker 2: go for two in that moment. Right You're playing Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: who at any moment, whether you rush ten, rush one,

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Speaker 2: had huge plays in the second half. You had to

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Speaker 2: go for two. All four Joe Burrow and listen. There

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Speaker 2: was a play early in the game where there was

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Speaker 2: defensive holding on the Ravens and it was I think

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Speaker 2: it was third down. It got the Bengals a free

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Speaker 2: definitely a four point swing. I have a huge problem

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Speaker 2: with defensive holding. I hate that call as an automatic

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Speaker 2: lot of credit, it's hard to watch him and go,

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Speaker 2: this is everything I want in a quarterback. Well, Lamar's

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Speaker 2: terms of toughness and complaining. He never does it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can complain that. Like in my youth, that wasn't

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Speaker 2: were a couple times on that drive where he's hit.

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Speaker 2: And to me, the difference on this, like when Sam

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Speaker 2: Darnold got drugged to the ground, they had to go

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Speaker 2: one hundred yards on that Thursday night game, this is

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Speaker 2: a two point play. Like with the playoffs on the line,

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Speaker 2: like this game more than likely is going to be

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Speaker 2: the reason that like you look up and they're eight

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Speaker 2: They have lost to the ravens now twice where they

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Speaker 2: like that can't happen, and the ref behind the back

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Speaker 2: Judge is standing right behind Joe Burrow like me or

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Speaker 2: you just watching the play. It's like, listen, I didn't

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Speaker 2: go to officiating school. I've never talked to Terry McCauley

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Speaker 2: But I'm pretty fucking sure you're supposed to keep an

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Speaker 2: he's getting cold cocked in the face and you're watching

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Speaker 2: the ball fly over eighty seven's head. That's embarrassing. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start with the Bengals because I get asked a

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Speaker 2: has been pretty consistent. I'm kind of indifferent. I don't

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Speaker 2: again in the AFC Championship game. Like, he's clearly kind

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Speaker 2: I just think these too, these games are just weird

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Speaker 2: like it. They looked in that first half. It's like

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Speaker 2: of halftime down fourteen to seven. Bengals like first or

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Speaker 2: He's eviscerating them. It's like, guys, how is no one

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Speaker 2: They're about to be five and five. Who does he

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Speaker 2: like Donkey Kong. The Ravens immediately score. The Bengals get

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Speaker 2: I do not understand on third and fourth and short,

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Speaker 2: basic when you watch the good offensive play callers starting

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Speaker 2: Why am I running a go route anywhere on the play?

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Speaker 2: You have on your team, Jamar Chase, I would say,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching that game that night thinking, can you imagine, like,

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Speaker 2: has any wide receiver duo ever aged even better as

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you watch Jamar Chase, You're like, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: that guy is the second best wide receiver, Like, how

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Speaker 2: Run a quick slant, run a quick out, get on

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Speaker 2: They basically played two hand touch three different guys and

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Speaker 2: Wallace went seventy five eighty yards. The moment that happened,

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Speaker 2: How does that happen? And then they get the ball

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Speaker 2: throw multiple go routes, so it's like, listen. Ultimately, Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow is the level of player, and he's an outstanding player.

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Speaker 2: He bears some of the responsibility, but how can the

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Speaker 2: it's a game of keepaway, which you did an outstanding

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Speaker 2: half it's like you're getting into a three point shooting

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Speaker 2: So to me, you're either coaching it or allowing it

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Speaker 2: You have a running back cook and catch. Burro's been

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Speaker 2: this dominant, dominant wide receiver. Oh yeah, their defensive backs

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Speaker 2: blow this year. They cannot cover anybody, and you're going

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Speaker 2: for what you're not. You can't have a kill shot

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Speaker 2: headline right before I jumped on here that Dak tore

429
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Speaker 2: some of his hamstring off the bone. I can't even

430
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: imagine how much that hurt. Like, I mean, the pain

431
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: the Dak has to be feeling sucks. And clearly, as

432
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: of right now, they haven't quote unquote officially put him

433
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 2: on injury reserve, but he's clearly not playing for a while.

434
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: They've won games before with Cooper Rush, but I think

435
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: we have to acknowledge a couple of years ago their

436
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: team was a lot better. Now Micah could come back,

437
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: but CD's banged up. They trade for Mingo. Listen, I mean,

438
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: you've got twelve catches this year, so I don't expect

439
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: him to come and hit the ground running. As we

440
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: talked about earlier in the week, that trade was really

441
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: for the next couple of years to get a cheap

442
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: player that ideally can be a starter. But like Howie

443
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: and Sirianni and Jalen and Saquon can go in there

444
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: and just clown them and they are the national game

445
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: at for US Mountain Pacific Standard or not Mountain Pacific

446
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: standard time that doesn't exist. I get very thrown off

447
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: on the time change right on Pacific Standard time for

448
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: six months here in Arizona, and then we don't do

449
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: anything and we just turn into Mountain standard time. I'm

450
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: a West Coast guy in California, where you turn the

451
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: clocks back. Here you do not do that. And it

452
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: really is. It has me swimming. So that game for

453
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: me is a two to twenty five kickoff. I would

454
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: imagine it's Brady and Burkhart and a lot of people

455
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: are gonna be watching this game. And this game last

456
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: couple of years felt like, I mean a really really

457
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: big deal. Obviously it was. I mean, these are the

458
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: two teams over the last three years that have won

459
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 2: the division. You know, the Cowboys have won this thing

460
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: two of the last three years, and it feels like

461
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: Howie and Sirianni, are they just gonna blow these guys out?

462
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Like are we gonna look up and this thing's gonna

463
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: be thirty five to seven and we start talking like Jerry,

464
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: you might as well just put Mike McCarthy out of

465
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: his misery. Saquan just going for a buck eighty and

466
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: three touchdowns and Jalen just cruising, no interceptions, no turnovers,

467
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: just efficient throwing some touchdowns? Is that how this is

468
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: gonna go? And Cooper Rush just looks completely overwhelmed. This

469
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: thing could get out. I mean, it's already out of hand.

470
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: And as I said, if you're a Cowboy fan at

471
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: this point, when you're clearly not going to the playoffs,

472
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: you're clearly having the season from hell, you just want

473
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: to lose out, you really do, because you have to

474
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: view this at this point in time. You're gonna have

475
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: a new coach next season, so you're gonna want the

476
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: best picks possible. Like, Yeah, ask Charger fans last year

477
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: at this point in time if I would have said, hey,

478
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: you're basically not gonna win the rest of the season,

479
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: what they would have said, Well, that sucks, but it's

480
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: gonna lead you to Jim Harbaugh and a bunch of

481
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: sweet draft picks. Like you're starting right tackle, you're arguably

482
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: your most talented wide receiver, Like you can change the

483
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: franchise around. So just take your lickings, you know, just

484
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: take your absolute punishment as a fan, which sucks but

485
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: happens to us all. There is no avoiding this and

486
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: once you become kind of good, you never really expect it.

487
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: I know people were down on the Cowboys. No one

488
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: expected this, and it could get really ugly. Three. What's

489
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffer going to look like? Because last year, non quarterback,

490
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: he was easily one of the best players in the NFL.

491
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: And I would just say even when he was on Carolina,

492
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: when he has been fully healthy, he has been one

493
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: of the more i would say, more unique players I've

494
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: ever seen. He's one of the best running backs of

495
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: like the last twenty twenty five years in terms of

496
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: the total package. There is nothing the guy can't do,

497
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: and he was tailor made for Kyle. Then he gets

498
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: injured and he just hasn't played all season long, which

499
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: again no one can exactly quantify what happened. And I'm

500
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: sure he's either talking today or tomorrow, and he'll definitely

501
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: talk after the game. But like even his dad has

502
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: said on podcasts, like, yeah, it's kind of mysterious. It's

503
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: just we don't exactly know. So what version are they getting,

504
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: Like are they getting one hundred percent I'm healthy, I

505
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: got fresh legs, or is this a guy that looks

506
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: a little rusty, Because if they do get pretty good

507
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: high level Christian McCaffrey. That's a problem for the rest

508
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: of the week. I mean this is this is adding

509
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: one of the best players, like what position does he play?

510
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: Running back? But he also could catch at any moment,

511
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: like ten catches a game, and no one can guard

512
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: him in the open field. And you can utilize them

513
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: basically in every element of your offense. And as a player,

514
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: he can run inside, he can run outside, he can

515
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: catch the ball, he can pass protect. He is just

516
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: the total package. I mean, listen, Saquon is a Hall

517
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: of Fame talent. But the one knock on him is

518
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: like hands good, not great. And as we saw, he

519
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: dropped that ball early in the season against Atlanta that

520
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: cost him a game, which you could argue wasn't totally

521
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: his fault. The coaching staff never should have put him

522
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: in that spot. But that like he has some drops

523
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't have, Like this isn't Marshall fallk or Laedanian,

524
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Tomlinson or Christian McCaffrey, Like that is not a problem.

525
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: And one thing this should help is party check the

526
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: ball down, throw it to him and a checkdown goes

527
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: for thirty yards. But is that the guy they're getting,

528
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I talked about it with Stucky. I

529
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: liked them than the forty nine ers to kill Tampa

530
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: this week. But I am a little like I'm as

531
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: interested as anyone is. What does this player look like? Fourth,

532
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 2: are the Jets really gonna come back and be a

533
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: playoff contender? They obviously have no margin for air. They're

534
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: three and six, and when you look at the AFC

535
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: between Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and I'm recording this part before

536
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: the Thursday night game, one of those two teams is

537
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: winning the division and the other one of those teams,

538
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: I would say ninety five percent is going to be

539
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: the five seed. So you're looking at a division winner,

540
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: which is going to be the second or third seed,

541
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: and then you're looking at the five seed. And then

542
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: when you look at the sixth seed, look at the Chargers,

543
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: who are five and three play the Titans this week,

544
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: and based on the remaining part of their schedule as

545
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: well as their head coach, they're going to the playoffs.

546
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: So I think it's fair to say there is one

547
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: playoff spot open. Obviously, the Jets don't have a snow

548
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: chance in hell to win the division. The Bills, you

549
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: could put the X next to their name right now

550
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: on ESPN dot Com like they've clinched the division. So

551
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: can the Jets get the seventh seed? I would one

552
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: bet against it simply because their coaching staff stinks and

553
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: they're a team full of mercenaries and if things get hard,

554
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: We've seen it over and over they tend to fold.

555
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: But they can't lose this game. This is what happens.

556
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: When you start two and six. You have no margin

557
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: for air. So this is a game. Somehow. The line's

558
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: kind of gone back and forth. I look this morning,

559
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: I think Arizona was like plus one. How are the

560
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Jets favored? Now? Maybe they will win this game? And

561
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: if they do, awesome, You're now four and six, So

562
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: you still have to win two more games just to

563
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: get back to five hundred. Now, when you look at

564
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: the rest of the landscape, the seventh seed is you know,

565
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: the Colts have a lot of issues, right, and we'll

566
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: see how Flacco plays this week. Right do they go

567
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: back to Anthony Richardson? So there are still some question marks.

568
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: You know, the Bengals aren't technically dead when it comes

569
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: to the seventh seed. I do believe that you're gonna

570
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: have to get to nine. So at three and six

571
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: with eight games remaining, to get to nine, you have

572
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: to win six games, so you have to go six

573
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: and three. Can they go six and three?

574
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

575
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Is that math correct? If they go six and three,

576
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: they would be nine and nine. Excuse me, awful at math?

577
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: They would have to go six and two. Now I did.

578
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: I do have a couple degrees. Probably cheated a little

579
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: too much in math over the years, though I do

580
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: love it. I keep my own books here. Actually I've

581
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: had an account and he runs the payroll. But you

582
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, three and six, eight games remaining,

583
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: you'd have to go six and two.

584
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: That was bad.

585
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: But is this team going six and two? I don't care.

586
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: If you play, you know, the shittiest teams in the

587
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: league every single week. They've not shown a propensity. And

588
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: actually it wouldn't be six and two because they just

589
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: beat Houston. It would be going seven to two over

590
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: a nine game stretch. I do have a hard time

591
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: in envisioning that. And that's just to get to nine wins. Last,

592
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: but not least, is Trevor Lawrence's career doomed? It was

593
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: reported today that he probably will not play this weekend.

594
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: He has a shoulder injury. Jay Gruden, John's brother, was

595
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: on the Old x app formerly known as Twitter, tweeting

596
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: away that he has sources he coached the Jags once

597
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: upon a time. The Trevor's going to need surgery. I

598
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: think there's decent chance we don't see Trevor the rest

599
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: of the season. So this team, who is going to

600
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: fire their coach? I would imagine as well fire their

601
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: GM and have a complete reset with a franchise. The

602
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: problem is you can't reset the franchise because you just

603
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: paid this guy two hundred million. So whoever is interested

604
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: in coming to coach this team goes. I have to

605
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: rehab and somehow create a good player out of the

606
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: version of this guy we have seen, who has been

607
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: at best average, who makes a ton of money, and

608
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: who now has two straight years of being injured a lot.

609
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Is this a good job? Is this a good job?

610
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know, like even the Bears, right, the

611
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: Bears job is going to come open even if you

612
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: don't believe. And I would imagine at this point, like, yeah,

613
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: is Caleb ever going to be a top five quarterback.

614
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Let's just try to get him to be a top

615
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: twelve quarterback. And I've been a lot of guys go,

616
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: I think I can create him to become a top

617
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: twelve quarterback. Our defense is already good. We need to

618
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: improve the offensive line and then have him play within

619
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: the system of our operation. That is doable. We're not

620
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: trying to make him Patrick Mahomes. Can I just make

621
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: him like some verse of Dak Prescott? You know, the

622
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: a version, a lighter version of like Jalen Hurts, Right?

623
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: Can I can I do some version? I'm not looking

624
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: to get Lamar Jackson here. You can talk yourself into

625
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: that one pretty easily. You look at the Jags and

626
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: you go, is it even in there? Because listen, and

627
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: maybe Caleb could never get there, And maybe this goes

628
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: down as like, wow, how did that happen? Very possible,

629
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: But at least there's a ton of hope there. Right,

630
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: He's a very very young player. One season, bad coaching staff,

631
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: like we've seen Trevor now with several guys, we've seen

632
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Trevor with like capable offensive talent. The guy's a turnover machine.

633
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: And now it's listen, this isn't totally his fault of mean,

634
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: his offensive line kind of in shambles. And I haven't

635
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: seen the clip of the play in which he got

636
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: hurt on, but like he's been hurt a couple times now.

637
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: And he makes an astronomical amount of money. So anytime

638
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: you guarantee someone two hundred million dollars like event it

639
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: comes due on the books, So you already got the

640
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: best year in terms of low cap number once you sign.

641
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: It's always the first year, and the second year is

642
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: probably obviously the second best, and then it starts getting

643
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: weird third and fourth year. Well, if he ain't the guy, like,

644
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: that's a pretty bad job. It really is. And that's

645
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: also a job where people's careers go to, I don't know,

646
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: just kind of end. It is not good to become

647
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: a head coach with Jacksonville, especially first time head coaches.

648
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: So I think there are a ton of question marks

649
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: just with this operation and what is going to happen

650
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: moving forward, And if Trevor does eventually need season ending surgery,

651
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: I think that's even a bigger red flag on this

652
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: offseason job. I really do. Let's end it with Fugazi Friday,

653
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 2: and I was thinking about this last week I had

654
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: walked in the house from golf a couple of cocktails deep,

655
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: and Maria looks at me and goes, did you see

656
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Jason Kelce what happened today? I'm like, what are you

657
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: talking about? And then she shows me the clip of

658
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: the dude, you know, calling him gay with not that word,

659
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: with that word, and him flipping right with carrying twelve

660
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: pack of beer, just trying to have a good time,

661
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: which I think is pretty insane. I get why people

662
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: talk a lot of shit on the internet to other people,

663
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: things that you would never say to someone else's face

664
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: because you never have to confront them. Totally understandable, like

665
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: it makes sense, Like we're at the point now where

666
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: it's it's obvious why this happens. It's just a basic

667
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: human laboratory, right. But it's another thing to see a guy,

668
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: especially an offensive lineman. Kelsey is not small, maybe small

669
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: for like NFL O linman Sanders always the knock was like, actually,

670
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: he didn't weigh that much relative to a lot of offensive linemen,

671
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: but that's not the point here. Relative to the guy's

672
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: screaming at him, he would beat the shit out of

673
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: them all without hesitating. You could tie his arms behind

674
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: his back and he would kill these guys. So these

675
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: guys liquid courage him saying it. I just don't understand.

676
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm at the point now and I get where he's

677
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: embarrassed in his quotes in his apology on ESPN about

678
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: just like it was just a bad look and listen,

679
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: I don't think it was. I don't think anyone with

680
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: a brain has a problem with anything he did. I

681
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: mean literally, any if he would have picked up the

682
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: dude and slammed him to the ground, no one would

683
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: have said shit. I do struggle with apologies like and

684
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him for doing it. I don't know.

685
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: He claims ESPN didn't tell him to do it. Obviously,

686
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Disney kind of a you know, I mean, historically pretty

687
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: sensitive company when it comes to shit like that. But like,

688
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: who are we apologizing to? Like I get it when

689
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: you screw up and you have to apologize directly to

690
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: your wife or your business partner or your boss, like

691
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: a one out of one apology, like hey man, this

692
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: is this was wrong. But when we do these a

693
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: public apologies like a shotgun blast and listen, When I

694
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: worked in radio, I got in trouble a couple of times,

695
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: and I was kind of forced to do it. And

696
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: I even remember thinking like like who's this? Who am

697
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: I doing this to? Like if I offended one individual,

698
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: when he could walk up to me and be like,

699
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: hey man, what you said that was really wrong? And

700
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: I could be like, hey man, I didn't mean to. Obviously,

701
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: you're just gonna naturally if you talk for a living

702
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: offend some people or piss some people off, like welcome

703
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: to fucking life. But if you had a one on

704
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: one interaction like hey man, I didn't mean I apologize

705
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: for that, right, just a simple human interaction. But when

706
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: we do these like broadcast ones like these, like these

707
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: shotgun blast ones, like who's this? What's the point of this?

708
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: I just don't understand, especially with something in a situation

709
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: where it's like I think you got universal agreement that

710
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: honestly you could have. The problem is like he can't

711
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: swing on the guy, not that he did, but if

712
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: he did, he probably shatter the guy's job. Then you

713
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: got problems. But like what he did, slamming the guy's phone,

714
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: which was pretty funny. Then he slams the phone, he

715
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: picks up the phone, he takes the phone with him.

716
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I just I just don't get these apologies. And I

717
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: think we're at the point now with the way the

718
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: world's turning. I mean, you just you saw the authenticity

719
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: of the voting public in America from California all the

720
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: way to New York, Like people are kind of tired

721
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: of the fake bullshit all over the place. I think

722
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: it's kind of unneeded and a situation like this, like

723
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: there's no point to it. There really is not. So

724
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: I just I think these public apologies, especially in situations

725
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: where I don't know who disagrees with what you did

726
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not this is not blaming, like I understand

727
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: why he did it, and when you hear him talk

728
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: like he's embarrassed, and I get it, but like spraying

729
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: this out to the world, like what's a point of it?

730
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: Like that there's not like, well, you do this and

731
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: then this results in this. It just it's completely meaningless.

732
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything. So I just think these public

733
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: apologies with media people or just celebrities or whatever are

734
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: just pretty pointless. Like I really, I just don't think

735
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: there's any that they don't result in anything. Okay, back

736
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: at it again with my main man, Stucky and all

737
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: lines provided by draft Kings. It was a massive, massive

738
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: muscle flex week for the gambling community because anyone that

739
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: spent a little time on the Internet on Tuesday saw

740
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: that the legacy media, which obviously is trending in the

741
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: wrong direction, was, depending on who you were watching, a

742
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: long way behind the reality in the gambling community and

743
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 2: the odds of poly Market, which I got to be honest,

744
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know much about until the last couple of weeks.

745
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: We're pretty dialed and if you wanted to know what

746
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: was going on and who was going to be president,

747
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: just get on the internet because the television and then

748
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: breaking it down and they're fucking fifty people sitting on

749
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: a set. We're just I mean, it was like the

750
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: draft on steroids. But big moment for the gambling community.

751
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: Stucky, Yeah, I mean just money talks, follow the money,

752
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: where the big money is and what people are vetting.

753
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: It's a huge, absolutely huge market on poly market. And

754
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean I've been watching election coverage on TV for

755
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: you know, since I was a kid on the election.

756
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: I but you'd just have to know that they're incentivized

757
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: to just keep it entertaining. And up in the air

758
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: for as long as possible to keep your eyes glued. So, yeah,

759
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: it's it's a different world these days.

760
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: You know someone that like you grew up, were you

761
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: where year were you born?

762
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: Eighty five?

763
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're same age. It is crazy the power

764
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: of television and you can feel the death upon us.

765
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: And obviously television for our generation was really taken off

766
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: in cable TV through the nineties and its power through

767
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: most of our adult life and now the transition of

768
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: like you didn't need to watch TV to know exactly

769
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: what was going on. I mean, and some of these

770
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: people that were streaming some of the numbers they're doing,

771
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: but obviously they are reacting live to the internet information,

772
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: not the information that television is, which obviously has the

773
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Internet information as well. But like you said, their incentive,

774
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: it's the highest rated night they're going to have on

775
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: the ear. I saw Fox News had over ten million

776
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: people watching. So regardless of the actual information, like this

777
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: is when they make their money, that's their business model,

778
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: and that business model gets more and more outdated. But

779
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: you know, by the year now, the draft still is

780
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: kind of unique and it's the difference of maybe a pick,

781
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: but even that. I mean, I'm with you. I'm old school.

782
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: I like a good uh, you know, raw reaction. But

783
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: it is difficult as someone that just craves the you know,

784
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: current information.

785
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's it's also just

786
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: crazy to think about. So now, you know, if you could,

787
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: you could go on to some of these market sites,

788
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, during the election night, and you would just know,

789
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: it's like at one point Trump it was like up

790
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: to like ninety six percent, and all of these networks

791
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: were like, it's still too close. We don't know. But

792
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: think about before TV on election nights. I guess you

793
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: were like the people were, yeah right here before Like,

794
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: it's pretty crazy to think about you just a lot

795
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: of people just found out the with the paper talking

796
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: to your neighbor. That's pretty crazy to think about how

797
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: far we've come. But yeah, it's a certainly changing landscape.

798
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: And I agree. I mean, I I peak at times,

799
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: especially when I'm really interested, but I I do like

800
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: the the draft surprise. I'm surprised the networks, don't you know.

801
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they're kind of you want your

802
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 3: your employee to gain a big following on social but

803
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, they're trying to get eyeballs too. I'm surprised

804
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: that they'd let them actually tweet out, you know, especially

805
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: like the NFL, they have such a control over everything

806
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: that they actually let that information get tweeted out ahead

807
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: of time.

808
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: But it's been pushing they've been pushing back against that.

809
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: It feels like the last couple of years, it does.

810
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: The NBA told woes Hell they might have driven them

811
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: into retirement, didn't they say no more? And even he

812
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: tried to do like the the word salad.

813
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: With a name.

814
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: But the NBA drafted has become so irrelevant because ninety

815
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: nine percent of sports fans don't know any of these

816
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: kids anymore. Right where the NFL, it's still you got

817
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: some of these guys going rogue. The people think. People

818
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: don't realize. In the NFL, the reason it comes out

819
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: is because there's a person in every war room that

820
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: has the computer that is directly tied to the leak.

821
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: So when you hand in the card that says they've

822
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: drafted John Middlcoff, that you have to let everyone else

823
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: know so they can, like all the teams know, and

824
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: that's way ahead, you know, that's probably ten minutes as

825
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: the draft goes on, even on the first round ahead

826
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: of the TV. So you know there's someone in every

827
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: war room that can text Albert Breer or whoever you

828
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: know the pick is in. And that's where I think

829
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: it's really kind of it's grown a lot of leaks from.

830
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: From inside those draft rooms.

831
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Uh, where do you want to start? Let's start. Let's

832
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: start with the NFL. You know, I was thinking about

833
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: this the Chiefs. It's pretty crazy what they've become. I mean,

834
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: they really are the They've got to the point where

835
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, they're like the Patriots, you know in

836
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: the Belichick run. But the Patriots, I mean they lost

837
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: a lot of random games and you know, they only

838
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: went back to back one time, and you know their

839
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: run of the Patriots that I think a lot of

840
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: people that if you just brought it up to a

841
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: sports fan at a bar, they would think more recently then.

842
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: You know, obviously the dynasty spans one to like eighteen nineteen,

843
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: but you think of the Gronk, mccordy, Edelman, like that

844
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: unit around Brady and Belichick, when really their most dominant

845
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: teams in terms of wins and losses were the early version, right,

846
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: wasn't that the team that won however many straight games

847
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: like twenty four or twenty five or whatever. Into the

848
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: next season. You know, they won back to back and

849
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: they were just a dominant, dominant team. They usually could

850
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: have won the the year that you know, Peyton Manning

851
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: finally got the Monkey office back and came storming back

852
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven or whatever. They're get their ass

853
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: kicked in the first half. It's like, it's like Manning's

854
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: defining moment of his career. I would say even more

855
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: than the Super Bowl in the rain against almost said

856
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the super Bowl is in Miami, but against

857
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: the Bears and Rex Grossman. But his moment was that

858
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: comeback against that Patriot team that I was a big

859
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: Manning fan at the time, and I was like, he's

860
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: about to get fucking lose, like fifteen to ten in

861
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: this game. I mean, think about the way we talk

862
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: about the Patriot dynasty. Now, imagine let's just say Manny

863
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: doesn't come back in that game and they kick their

864
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: asking me that they destroy the Bears, it would feel

865
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: even crazy. That's what the That's what the Chiefs feel

866
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: like right now. It's like, yeah, no matter what it's

867
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: not sexy or whatever. They're just never gonna lose. Well,

868
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: they are gonna lose eventually a game, Like they're not

869
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: going seventeen and oh honestly, I don't even feel like

870
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: they're going. If they go fifteen to two, that's a

871
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: fucking incredible season. It's like the equivalent in the NBA

872
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: of winning like seventy four games. You know, that's like

873
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: what the Warriors did a couple of years ago. So

874
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna if you just assume that they're gonna lose, right,

875
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: which I think most people, even Andy Reid, like if

876
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: you could talk to him in his office, close the door,

877
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: He's like, Yeah, we're gonna lose a game this season.

878
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna get good odds on that game that they lose, right,

879
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they are going to be like this week,

880
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: it's it's almost a three to one money line. And

881
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: I do think they're just gonna lose a game to

882
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: a big underdog. I like Denver plus seven and a half,

883
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: not because I even love Denver. They actually played your

884
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: squad pretty hard and I saw it in the first

885
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: half and the Zay Flowers thing kind of broke it.

886
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: And then the gates opened. But like, it's not about

887
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: loving Denver. It's just about the odds of this continuing.

888
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: It's basically just a numbers game and you go Monday

889
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: night the way they want it in the Rain. I mean,

890
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: that was just a pretty big muscle flex in front

891
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: of probably fifteen million people. Eventually, they're just gonna have

892
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: a game where weird shit happens and all of a

893
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: sudden they lose. But at the end of the day,

894
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: there's will be the one seed and lose one or

895
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: two games on the season, right am am? I crazy

896
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: for that?

897
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, look they've definitely been fortunate too. I mean,

898
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: if you look the Bengals game, they get the PI call,

899
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: the Falcons game, they could have lost. They don't get

900
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: the Falcons, don't get the PI call, don't get a

901
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: couple of fourth down conversions, the Raiders with the toe,

902
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean the Ravens with their toe and the opener.

903
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 3: So they've won what for there's six and oh one

904
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: possession games. Also, like just looking at injuries, like the

905
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: Saint set a ton of injuries, the Chargers, the forty

906
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: nine Ers lost all of their weapons in that game.

907
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: The Bucks didn't have their top two receivers. So yeah,

908
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 3: they definitely they have too, right, I mean, yes, they've

909
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: had injuries too. On offense, I think that a couple

910
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: at corner too, and they're gonna get Their offense is

911
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: very underwhelming. It's just kind of like it's an efficiency monster.

912
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: But there's no explosedness. But they're gonna get better because

913
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: they're gonna get healthier and you know, you added Hopkins

914
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: and their offense should get better. Their defense is good,

915
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: it's very good this year. It see a lot better

916
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: against the run. But they definitely benefited from you know,

917
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: who they've placed, who they played and when from an

918
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: injury perspective. But their schedule is pretty easy if you

919
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: look the rest of the way. They have a bunch

920
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: of division games and then their non division games or

921
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: the Panthers, they're home against the Texans, They're at the Steelers,

922
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: and then the one where I think they probably lose

923
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: is at the Bills next week. If they take care

924
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: of business this week, where'd you say that Panther game

925
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: was at Carolina?

926
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: See, that is going to be a spot where you

927
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: can get the Panthers like a plus five hundred or

928
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: plus six hundred put yourself in the chief situation. In

929
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: what world can Travis Kelsey and Chris Jones show up Wednesday,

930
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday and take that team seriously like they

931
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: are human beings. They've already got two rings at the time.

932
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: By then, they still might not have a in what.

933
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: After the Bills game? After the Bills games too.

934
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: That's got If they go fifteen and two, they're going

935
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: to lose a game like losen to Denversuh. The craziest

936
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: thing division that could be a game in which they

937
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: lose or at least it's like ten to ten in

938
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: the third quarter because they don't give a shit? How

939
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: could they?

940
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, and they just Mahomes has never

941
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: been a great bet as a favorite of a touchdown

942
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: or more. I think he's like forty.

943
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: The line going to be on that game, like fourteen,

944
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: and it shouldn't be that high, but it will.

945
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the Panthers' injury situation is worth monitoring. We'll

946
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: see if it's Dalton or Young. See how Young looks

947
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: like again this week against the Giants. He actually had

948
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: his first competent game as a pro last week in

949
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: that upset winner for the Saints, but Yeah, this team

950
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: right now, it's not a team that you really want

951
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: to lay a big number with that they're like I

952
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: just said that though, all but what two of their

953
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: wins have come by one posession on the season, and

954
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 3: it's not a team that just builds giant margins because

955
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: their offense is just so methodical. And yeah, so this

956
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: divisional game home field isn't as much Chiefs on a

957
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: short week after an overtime game, Historically, teams have not

958
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 3: done well against the spread in that spot. So yeah,

959
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: I think it's either it's Denver or nothing here. Historically,

960
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 3: teams on a short week off of voute overtime forty

961
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: three percent straight up forty four against the spread over

962
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: the past decade. So it's not a great spot for

963
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. You'd expect the Broncos to come out here

964
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: with a game effort. The problem is, like no one's

965
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: been able to run on Kansas City. Denver needs to

966
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: kind of get their run game going for everything else.

967
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: So it might be tough, but I think that their

968
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: defense can hold its own here against the Chiefs offense,

969
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: which is still pretty limited. I mean, if you think

970
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team is we were just talking about Brady,

971
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: This Chiefs team resembles more of those in its current form,

972
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: more of those Brady led teams that had the dominant

973
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: defenses and rabel and I mean they just scored. The

974
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Chiefs scored thirty points last week for the first time

975
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: and I believe twenty plus games, and that was because

976
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: the game went to overtime. You were like, a couple

977
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: of years ago, this Chiefs team would score thirty every week.

978
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: So it's a completely different team. And credit to Andy Reid,

979
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: Steve Spagnola and that entire organization for building out that

980
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: defense and being able to maintain a championship caliber team.

981
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: And they know that if they just are in a

982
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: close game or get to the playoffs, and you have

983
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: the best quarterback on the planet, then you're gonna have

984
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: a better shot than most. So yeah, they'll be right

985
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: in the discussion. Again, I do I don't think that

986
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: they're gone undefeated, but they're just gonna play too many

987
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: close games because their offense isn't that explosive and eventually

988
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: you know they're not gonna get.

989
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: As we sit here right now, would you say they're

990
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: more likely to go sixteen and one or fourteen.

991
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: And three uh, fourteen and three, because if they.

992
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: Do go fourteen and three, like they're gonna have I mean,

993
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: the Bills, I guess if you lose to them, it's

994
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: not a crazy upset, but like they're gonna have a

995
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: couple pretty big upsets like Sunday night when or Monday

996
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: morning when we're talking about the league, Like, that's a

997
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: pretty crazy moment that so and so team beat the Chiefs, right.

998
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think they could lose at the

999
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 3: Bills and then you got their favorite of that game.

1000
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: Do you think assuming health, probably uh yeah, it's close,

1001
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: top pick on. It won't be it won't be a

1002
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: field goal either way. Probably maybe Bills mightus won. Depends

1003
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: of what happens this weekend too. But like you also,

1004
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: they're remember if that game next week next Sunday, four o'clock,

1005
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: it's a good one if you have to remember that.

1006
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: If they're like fifteen and two. Yeah, the last game

1007
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: at Denver, they will probably lose because they're probably playing backups.

1008
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the probably win. It starts for sure, Yeah,

1009
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: I agree.

1010
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean I would say one of the better games

1011
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: of the weekend. You could argue it's the best Steelers Washington.

1012
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: There's a huge reason for this is just Washington. I mean,

1013
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: they're going to have a pretty you know, this is

1014
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: going to determine to me their season these next four

1015
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: days starting Sunday, because they play the Eagles on Thursday night.

1016
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: So like you could just like this could end for

1017
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: them in terms of winning the division. Right you lose

1018
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh at home, and then you lose the Eagles,

1019
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: and I'm assumed the Eagles are going to beat the Cowboys.

1020
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: That'd be a pretty big swing right there and all

1021
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: but shore up the Eagles. You know, they have a

1022
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: clear path to win the division, and Washington's just playing

1023
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: for a wildcard spot. You win this game at Pittsburgh,

1024
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: Like my first inclination is like Steelers field goal. Like

1025
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: this is a spot. We've talked about this for years,

1026
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: the Tomlin spot underdog, and this isn't like an underdog,

1027
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: like no one believes in you. You're playing the Bills

1028
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: with the cheeks. It's like you're playing a rookie quarterback

1029
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: who incredible season so far, but like a team that

1030
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 2: player for player, you're better than I You're like, I

1031
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: understand Washington has resurrected the franchise. You know, dan Quinn

1032
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: and Jade, there's gonna be a lot of Steeler fans there.

1033
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: They just travel well. I like the Steelers in this spot,

1034
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: and not because I'm like think Washington some fraud or

1035
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: whatever like the Bears. Just I just like the Steelers

1036
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: in this spot. That was I saw that numbers like boom.

1037
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: I gravitated towards to it. Now, you know outdoors Russell Wilson,

1038
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: whether or to get weird, who knows. Like I'm just

1039
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm sold on Russell. He's kind of

1040
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: the wild card here, but you had Mike Williams or

1041
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: they just gonna keep throwing lollipops up and letting their

1042
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: guys get fifty to fifty catches. Now they add Latimore,

1043
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: who dan Quinn's pretty excited about. But I think I'm

1044
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: gonna hammer the Steelers here.

1045
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a there yet. I think a lot of

1046
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: more practicing. I don't think he is. We'll see if

1047
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: he practices today. It's Thursday. I think he's important in

1048
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: this game. He clearly becomes their best corner. He can

1049
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: match him up against Pickens. I'm just not ready to

1050
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: fade this Commander's team. Yet they remind me of like

1051
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: Indiana in college football, who just keeps covering every week.

1052
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: The market just can't catch up to how much better.

1053
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: Concluding myself, it's hard for me to powerrate this team

1054
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: for two reasons. I mean, Daniels is so much better

1055
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: than I could have ever imagined at this point his career.

1056
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: And two, the defense, which many projected as a bottom

1057
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: five in the NFL, is trending way up. I mean

1058
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: over the past month or so, they're playing as a

1059
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: top ten unit. So dan Quinn's done a tremendous job

1060
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: with that side of the ball. And then I think

1061
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: Latimore will raise their floor end ceiling on that side.

1062
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: And I'm also just not sold. It is a great

1063
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, your classic Tomlin dog spot, and they'll find

1064
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: ways to ugly up the game. But having Daniels' mobility

1065
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: against that defensive line is key. And you know, also

1066
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: get the ball out quick and test this Steelers defense

1067
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: that on the back end hasn't really been tested. I mean,

1068
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: if you look with what top tier offense have they

1069
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: faced this year. I mean, you look, they start, they

1070
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: played Atlanta. It was a really good offense, but that

1071
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: was Kirk Cousins' first game back from injury in the

1072
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: first game of the year, and they ran this ridiculous,

1073
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: predictable offense. And they played Denver the Chargers where Herbert

1074
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: and both tackles get hurt in a ten to ten game.

1075
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: They lost to the Colts. You know, they gave up

1076
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: nearly thirty points in that game. Lost at home to

1077
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and they beat the Raiders in both the

1078
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: New York teams and and that Giants game, I mean,

1079
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: there was a punnerturn was the difference Giants playing without

1080
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, their left tackle, and they were they were

1081
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: moving the ball in that get they put up nearly

1082
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: four hundred yards of offense. So there's a chance that

1083
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers defense is just a touch over rated. Their

1084
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: defensive line is always going to be good, and they

1085
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: can always change a game. And Watt could always force

1086
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: a couple of fumbles and get a strip sack.

1087
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: And now they're even deeper. Kind of like that trade,

1088
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: just adding next year, you know, Preston Smith, just your body.

1089
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't hurt. So yeah, this is probably a

1090
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: stay away from me if Washington wins it. If Washington

1091
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: wins this game, even though it's at home. But I'm

1092
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: just saying if if they.

1093
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: Beat Pittsburgh, I can't that that's gotta I mean, we'd

1094
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: be going into one of the cooler Thursday Night games

1095
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: in a long long time. Right.

1096
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have two two back to back that Thursday

1097
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: Night games is Rare Ravens Bengals and then h Commander's Eagles.

1098
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, that one, that one should get some eyeballs.

1099
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, and if they all of a sudden, then

1100
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: if you're the Commanders and you could find a way

1101
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: to win both those games, you have two home games

1102
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: coming up before the bye against Dallas, who's without Dak presumably,

1103
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: and the Titans. So yeah, you could the division either

1104
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: could be gone it's maybe a big swing game, or

1105
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: you could be Detroit for the one seed. Yeah by

1106
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: December first, going into December, you could have Washington near

1107
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: the top, depending on how this next week goes.

1108
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: You know, I have a lot of respect for Tampa

1109
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: the other night, and I think Baker's for the most part,

1110
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: played like a top ten quarterback all season long. His

1111
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: coordinator Liam Cohen, what he did in that game without

1112
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, you know, throwing Obviously, Ouden's a good player,

1113
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: but I think Liam Cohen everyone loves to circle jerk,

1114
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm probably guilty this too early in

1115
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: the season, Kobiak or Slowick, Like, I think Liam Cohen,

1116
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: how good their offense was with those guys let alone

1117
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: to be competitive, and how good Baker looks. Uh, but

1118
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: that that's a pretty big kick in the Dick loss.

1119
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: And that's one of those. And as well recording this,

1120
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: you know he's banged up, but this is a spot

1121
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: Niners getting McCaffrey back. Juwan Jennings is healthy, Deebo says

1122
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: he's fine. Even Trent Williams in the locker room was

1123
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: like it's a big deal to look out of practice

1124
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: and see twenty three running round out there. You know,

1125
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: sometimes we talk about the trade deadline, and you know,

1126
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: some of the bigger names that got traded, they actually

1127
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: got traded a couple weeks before the trade deadline. But

1128
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of random names. If McCaffrey is

1129
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: just I don't know, close to full health, and if

1130
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: he's playing like I don't expect to see him like

1131
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: limping around, he's either good to go or he's not.

1132
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: Like that's you just can't have a bigger addition than

1133
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: adding this guy back to the team, just in terms

1134
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: of what he means for them emotionally, Like I mean,

1135
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: he's one of the best players in the league. The Niners,

1136
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: you know, have to keep winning also, like the clearly

1137
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: the Rams are coming the fucking Cardinals if they beat

1138
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: the Jets, which I think is very possible. All of

1139
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: a sudden you look up, they're six and four, like

1140
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: the Niners. Margin foreers is zero. I just think the

1141
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: Niners kick their ass. And I have a lot of

1142
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: respect for Tampa this season. They got dealt a shitty

1143
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: hand with their injuries. I think they would have been

1144
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: a very competitive wild card team. They kind of like

1145
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: could have won the division. But I just think that

1146
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: what happened on Monday Night went out of your sales.

1147
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: This is a tough spot for him, and I just

1148
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: like the spot for the Niners coming off the buy

1149
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: and getting the guys back.

1150
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah, I don't mind the overs also, but

1151
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: that's taking a lot of money kind of getting out

1152
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: of range there.

1153
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would have liked the Niners in this spot,

1154
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: whether Tampa pulled that game out or not. I mean,

1155
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: they clearly hitching sinc game for him, like if they

1156
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: would have gone for two and won the game, which

1157
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: obviously they should have, but it's just a tough that

1158
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: Monday night when you're undermanned against the big boy, and

1159
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: then you win or lose. It's just when you lose,

1160
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: it's even extra deflating.

1161
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: Flying home, it's a nightmare situation on spot. I mean,

1162
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: you are on the road and then have to come

1163
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: back home with travel on a short week, and your

1164
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: defense is on the field for eighty plus snaps. They

1165
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 3: were on the field of the entire game on the

1166
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: road in overtime, eighty plus snaps coming home to play

1167
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: the San Francisco team off of by and this is

1168
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: usually when that forty nine ers offense starts to get rolling.

1169
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: They make some tweaks, especially during the bye week, and

1170
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: they're getting healthier. This Tampa defense is beat up and

1171
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: not very good.

1172
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: For two, right, I mean the two the touchdown play

1173
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: was wide open, even the play before I fought and

1174
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: holds onto it. He falls the en zone. Like Liam

1175
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: Cohen was on he was a like an NBA player,

1176
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: hit like seven straight threes, Like give him back the ball,

1177
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: like he's cooking. Let him cook.

1178
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get like, Hey, I also wouldn't have called

1179
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: a time They called a time out with like thirty

1180
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: seconds to go. You didn't need to do that, Like

1181
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: you just leave as little time as post.

1182
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: I think that's less crazy, though, because you're a little discombobulated.

1183
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get in that spot everyone runs down late.

1184
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you just freak out in that spot.

1185
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: I know it's easy sitting on the couch being critical,

1186
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: and it's obviously the wrong move. I think the going

1187
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: for two is crazier than that because how often do

1188
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: we see I forget exactly how long the play was,

1189
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like a five yard game. It was

1190
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty yards. Right, You're just a little discombobulated.

1191
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: Everyone's running up. You have two plays called in the huddle.

1192
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I don't mind the time out there. I

1193
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: just would have let some a little more clock run down.

1194
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, the thing the argument against.

1195
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: What's the argument on the timeout? Go up and spike it,

1196
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: or go up there and run a play.

1197
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean I just would have went up, ran some time,

1198
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: ran some time down to whatever. Yeah.

1199
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, but then you can't run the ball or

1200
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: whatever because you have no time I'm outs left right

1201
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: if you're at the two yard line or one yard.

1202
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Yeah I wouldn't have done it, But

1203
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: that's not the most egregious aniversy going for two. The

1204
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: argument against going for two there is that if you

1205
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 3: do get it then and you kick it to the Chiefs,

1206
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: you incentivize them to be aggressive, like really aggressive and

1207
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: you know, to potentially get a field goal instead of

1208
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: going to overtime to win a coin toss. But I

1209
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: still would have went for two because I mean, you're

1210
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: also you gotta remember the conditions, Like the conditions weren't

1211
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: ideal for offense. And this isn't a very explosive Chiefs

1212
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: offense right of your.

1213
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: Field goal kicker. What if he slips, I mean it's

1214
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: a thirty five yard field goal.

1215
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs they don't you know, yeah, yeah the

1216
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: extra point people forget it isn't you know, automatic anymore

1217
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: as well, but the Chiefs, it's not offense. It gets

1218
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: chunk plays the time. I know it's my homes. He

1219
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: probably would have found a way, but yeah, you were

1220
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 3: a beurea eight and a half one underdog on the

1221
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: road in bad conditions. You have all the momentum, and

1222
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: then once that happened, I was like, the Chiefs are

1223
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: winning this coin toss. But you're right on, Liam Cohen.

1224
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: It's he's been great and you can look at no

1225
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: further than Kentucky like he was. He's had two steps

1226
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: of Kentucky over the past five years. The times that

1227
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: he was there, their offense has been so much better

1228
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: than the years that he's not.

1229
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: So that just wasn't that wasn't that the second whatever

1230
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: Levis's second to last year there where he I mean

1231
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: I thought I remember watching him play like this guy

1232
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: could be the number one overall pick and.

1233
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah he was there twenty one and or yeah, two

1234
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: of the last four years he was there, and the

1235
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: offense just so much better, and that points to his

1236
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: schematic ability. But I agree, this is a forty nine

1237
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: er spot. This reminds me of I mean, you'll remember

1238
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: this maybe three years ago, forty nine ers off of

1239
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: Bye when they went to Jacksonville.

1240
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh miche murdered him eight two years ago.

1241
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: I think, and they just blew the doors off of

1242
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: the Jags I think was thirty four to three.

1243
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: Murdered him. I mean it was a it was a

1244
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: the college equivalent, it would have been like sixty five

1245
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: to ten. You know, it was the NFL version of

1246
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: like this is a joke. Uh. And the Niners they

1247
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 2: haven't really had that moment this year. That's the one

1248
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: thing where I think, you know, fans, obviously they've had

1249
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: the devastating comeback losses to the Rams and the Cardinals,

1250
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: but you do feel a little bit better. It's like, Okay,

1251
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: we've had a couple of games where we've just blown

1252
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: people out, like start to finish. I mean last year

1253
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: they did it all the time. And that's where I

1254
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: think when we led up to that Ravens game on Christmas,

1255
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: it was like both these two teams like their high

1256
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: ends really high, and then the Ravens obviously kicked the

1257
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: shit out of them, and it was like, god, damn,

1258
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: that sucks.

1259
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: But that was last year.

1260
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: Actually, Like, oh, the Jags game was last year.

1261
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: Off the box, Yeah, so same exact weekend as the

1262
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: Jacks were kind of heating up right, yeah. Yeah, and

1263
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers lost three straight going into.

1264
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: The by Well, they got d BO back.

1265
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: After the box, they were with a ton of injuries,

1266
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: and then they came out of the by beach Axel

1267
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: thirty four to three and then ended up winning six

1268
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: in a row. So this is about that time and

1269
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 3: they're getting healthier bucks or not. It's just a good spot.

1270
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: I wonder what the Jags, you know. I saw a

1271
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: Jay Gruden, who I think was assistant coach there, so

1272
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: he's pretty dialed in, but he knows the trainer or

1273
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: whatever tweeted out like here in sources that Trevor Lawrence

1274
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: is going to need surgery that would end this season,

1275
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: like obviously Doug and everyone's gonna get fired. I wonder

1276
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: if that job is going to be desirable at all.

1277
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: You have some quarterback whose question marks as a player

1278
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: is up in the air, and then the guy's been

1279
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: injured now multiple times. Like that's just that franchise feels

1280
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: like they're fucking about to unravel.

1281
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: Will Ben Johnson take it? That's the name that cons

1282
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: no there?

1283
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: Do you think he would?

1284
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean, based on it's based on what we know

1285
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: about him, I don't think so, but money talks. But

1286
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: we'll see that's a name's been floating out there. Yeah,

1287
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if the thing though, I think

1288
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: there's a ligament damage and Larnce is probably just gonna

1289
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: choose to get surgery or something. I mean, with the

1290
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: where they're at this year, you.

1291
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: Know, these coordinators like Liam Cohen now has a pretty

1292
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 2: long resume of like he's been to college, kicked ass

1293
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: like with NFL level guys, made them look better, and

1294
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: now he's gone to the pros, worked with multiple quarterbacks. McVeigh. Now,

1295
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: he's clearly like Bowles ain't telling him what to do.

1296
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: He's running the offense. You could argue like Ben Johnson

1297
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: has kind of been scared to be the lead dog.

1298
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: We've seen historically a ton of these coordinators that are like,

1299
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: he's the smartest coordinator, and then they become bad head coaches,

1300
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: like for example, Gannon, all my buddies with the Eagles

1301
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: are like, listen, I fucking love this dude. You can

1302
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: nitpick him. He's not Belichick schematically, but I'm telling you

1303
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: players love him. A lot of them said, I bet

1304
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: he's a better head coach than he is, just like

1305
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: a schematic genius, and he's proven, Like you watch the

1306
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: Cardinals player like, I think he's actually probably a pretty

1307
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: solid head coach. And that's where I just think you

1308
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: just never know, like Ben Johnson. Yeah, you give him

1309
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: a sweet offense. He clearly has a innate feel for

1310
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: being an awesome play caller and Detroit has been an

1311
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: incredible watch now for three years. But he's gonna go

1312
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: to some other team. Well, what happens Like when your

1313
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 2: star defensive tackle gets arrested for beating the shit out

1314
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: of his girlfriend and you don't have extra time to

1315
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: call because you have to go deal with your GM,

1316
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: Like you never have to deal with that shit, Like

1317
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: when Jamison Williams gets pulled over and he's got a

1318
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: couple of glocks like that, It's like, hey, Jamison is out, Okay,

1319
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with Dan then has to

1320
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: deal with that, right. So I think it's just I

1321
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: think it's really really difficult to try. It's why we

1322
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: miss on so many head coaches. You just have no

1323
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: fucking clue. Or Signetti's a good example, It's like, yeah,

1324
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: he just knows how to be a head coach. Now,

1325
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: you never know when you're gonna level up. But like

1326
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly Signetti, most guys they just have a long,

1327
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: long resume of being a head coach, are gonna be

1328
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: good at being a head coach. If they're good enough.

1329
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: You know, college a little different. Gotta be a recruiter too.

1330
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 2: But I just think it's I don't know, there's so

1331
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: much unknown just because Kyle and McVeigh hit there is

1332
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,879
Speaker 2: no guarantee that that works, because I would say historically

1333
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: it doesn't work as much as it does.

1334
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's the case in like the

1335
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: real world too. You know, I used to work in finance.

1336
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: I had no interest in ever rising to the very

1337
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: top and because which would mean like you just have

1338
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: a bunch of people under you. I know that that's

1339
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: not my strength, like managing people, delegating, you know, I

1340
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: work best on my own, just so as it's like

1341
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 3: a power worker, like here, what do I need to

1342
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 3: get done? And and so. But I've realized that and

1343
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: I just had no interest in doing it. But your

1344
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 3: money wise, you're just incentivized to get to the very

1345
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: top of everything, and that's where you'll end up being that,

1346
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, manager of lots of people, and that takes

1347
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: a specific skill set that not everybody has and running

1348
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, an NFL whereization as a head coach is

1349
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: that it takes a lot and a lot of these

1350
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: guys that get there, they're like obsessive scheme guys because

1351
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: they had a ton of success as a coordinator and

1352
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: that might not be just their skill set with managing people, relationships,

1353
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: dealing with all of that stuff. So, yeah, it doesn't

1354
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't always work out, and we just assume that

1355
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 3: it will. But as you said, we've had.

1356
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 2: Especially for young especially younger guys, right, Like Mike McDonald's

1357
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: a good example. I think Mike McDonald and Ben if

1358
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: you give them elite talent, they can out scheme any

1359
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: coach in the world. Like they can go toe to

1360
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: toe with Belichick or Kyle whoever, it doesn't matter. But

1361
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: like what happens when it's like you don't have the

1362
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: unlimited time to just deal with that, you have to

1363
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: deal with all this other shit like hey, you know

1364
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: DK didn't show up today, like that, that's.

1365
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: Your biggest strength. Your biggest strength was like your scheme,

1366
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: And then you have to take away a lot of

1367
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: time from what gave you your biggest strength because and

1368
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: you can't blame anyone. They just want the biggest.

1369
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: Yea Hey, hey, coach, Kenneth Walker, his girlfriend just started

1370
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: banging this other dude that actually plays in the NBA

1371
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: and he can't even think straight right now? Could I

1372
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: just send him home? Like those are problems that you

1373
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: then have to deal with and before Mike McDonald's like,

1374
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: I just used to be deal with the defense. Now

1375
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: I gotta worry about all this other shit. Yeah, it's

1376
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: like coach, my fucking daughter's really sick. I gotta leaves, like, well,

1377
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: you're the quality control, Like you just have to deal

1378
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: with all this shit. And it's why Belichick to me,

1379
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: like we question. He's obviously a lot older, but you

1380
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: watch him enough like he clearly, I would say, still

1381
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: comes off pretty sharp. You one percent know he can

1382
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: deal with all of it, right.

1383
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I agree. I think Gannon is a

1384
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 3: great head coach, and I've heard nothing but good things.

1385
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: I know some people, some of my good friends know

1386
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: him personally as well and.

1387
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: Have nothing People love the guy, don't they.

1388
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 3: Things you have to say about him. One of my

1389
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 3: really good friends is the best man in his wedding,

1390
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: So I h I have heard nothing but good things

1391
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: about him. With that said, I think this is a

1392
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: good week for the Jets to bet the Jets. I

1393
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: did bet the Jets. It's a good spot for new

1394
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: York they needed. Look, they've been really unlucky. I mean,

1395
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: like they haven't been great, but they've lost like what

1396
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: four or five one possession games that could have went

1397
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: either way. Greg Zerline cost him a couple of games

1398
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 3: on his own, and they were you know, they had

1399
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: a ton of injuries like on on offense, on in

1400
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: this secondary. They now reddick back like they needed this

1401
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: break and they needed a win against Houston. I think

1402
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: they'll carry that momentum over to this week. But they

1403
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: have a mini Bikes. They played on Thursday. They needed

1404
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 3: that break so bad. I mean it was a team

1405
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: that what they played five or six primetime games over

1406
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: the first nine weeks, which was an NFL.

1407
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: Right, and they played multiple Thursday night games, right.

1408
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 3: And they played overseas and so it was while dealing

1409
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: with all those injuries. So I like the matchup of

1410
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 3: their secondary, which should be healthier here against Arizona there,

1411
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 3: I think that they'll be able to get pressure on Murray,

1412
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 3: and this Arizona defense is not any good. They can't

1413
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: get any pressure, so Rogers will be able to operate

1414
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 3: from a clean pocket. He won't be confused by some

1415
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: of the looks that Arizona gives them. Like Arizona's in

1416
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 3: the talented defense, but it's well schemed. They can confuse

1417
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: some quarterbacks. Yeah, play hard, but you know, it's not

1418
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: a huge home field advantage here and Arizona. You know,

1419
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 3: while New York is the Jets have been very unlucky

1420
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 3: in close games, Arizona has been extremely fortunate. I mean

1421
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 3: three of their wins came by two points or less

1422
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: when they were down by double digits. You know, against

1423
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 3: the Chargers, they've recovered all these fumbles. One in the

1424
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: last second field goal against the forty nine Ers, they're

1425
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: getting blown out. The forty nine ers kicker gets hurt. Yeah,

1426
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 3: that fumble late and they end up winning in the

1427
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: final minute. Miami's up ten in the second half, they

1428
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: snap it over their heads like it's a college game

1429
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: for safety. Arizona ends up winning on the last second

1430
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: field goal. Two convincing wins came against the Rams and

1431
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: a really good spot you just talked about coming off overtime.

1432
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 3: The Rams are coming off overtime loss against the Lions

1433
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: and all out effort, we're dealing with injuries and then

1434
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: had to go on the road to Arizona and the

1435
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: other one was last week against Chicago, who was coming

1436
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 3: off that devastating loss on a hail. Marion had to

1437
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: go across the country for a second straight road game.

1438
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 3: Locker roomage reportedly in shambles, and they were without multiple

1439
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: offensive linemen. They were they were without We talked about

1440
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: this last week. They ended up being without sweat. They

1441
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: were without briskers.

1442
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: So that that wasn't ass kicking, bro like that was dominated.

1443
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: There's never right off the bus, never ran off the bus.

1444
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: They uh yeah, that was a tough spot. So and

1445
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: they just confused Williams. They were just able to get

1446
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 3: pressure the whole game too because the offensive line injuries.

1447
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: So the Cardinals have been quite fortunate if you break

1448
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: down their schedule a little deeper. So I like the

1449
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 3: Jets here, uh as you know, a one point favorite.

1450
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: I know the Sunday night game was a little bit

1451
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: of interest. You I kind of a stay away from

1452
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: me as someone that had a little action on the

1453
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: Texans on Halloween and I don't know where they sat

1454
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: but after Thursday night, so going into the weekend, the

1455
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: Browns had their quarterback had been sacked more than anyone

1456
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: else in the league. It was like thirty seven heading

1457
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: into the last Sunday, and part of that like, if

1458
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: you watch them play, Deshaun ran like into half of

1459
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: them like it was a joke. But after that game,

1460
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: after he got sacked eight times, no team beside the

1461
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: Browns their quarterback had been sacked more than CJ. And

1462
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: then I would imagine when you factor in the pressures

1463
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: and shit, it's it's like it's not working.

1464
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: And that game.

1465
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: One thing that drove me nuts about that game is

1466
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: like slow, it's as Shanahan guy, you you probably should

1467
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: have like forty attempts in that game running the ball.

1468
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: You're your quarterback one. You can't block for him. And

1469
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: then it's like the chick in the egg. It's like

1470
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: and he's losing his confidence and playing shitty as he's

1471
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: getting peppered. It's a disaster, and he was not looking good.

1472
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: Your running back was arguably like, if not the best

1473
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: player in the field, one of them like just just

1474
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: ride them like a horse if you gotta get you know,

1475
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: three straight runs to get first downs. But these coaches,

1476
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: these young guys are just so quick. Well I'm in

1477
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: the pass. It's a disaster. And that that's what makes

1478
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: me nervous nowt of Detroit losing Hutchinson. If he was

1479
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: playing in this game, he'd be like, uh, J might

1480
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: be in trouble. But he he's long gone. He's still

1481
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: the league.

1482
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 3: And pressures Touchinson. He's been now for a couple of weeks.

1483
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's this would be a field wouldn't this

1484
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: would be a field day for him. Wouldn't like this

1485
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: type game.

1486
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been a lot of the pressures that are

1487
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: haunting Houston. The metals, uh, the guards. Hopefully they're they're healthier.

1488
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean they they're coming off a loss on a

1489
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: Thursday night. Mini buyers should help. We'll see if they

1490
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 3: get healthy on defense. I did play the Texans plus

1491
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: four and a half, but when this line opened, I

1492
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: just thought that that was way too many points in

1493
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: a pretty good spot. With Detroit second straight road game,

1494
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 3: used to coming off the mini bi, I figured they'd

1495
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: be healthier. He was getting Nico Collins back, who was

1496
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 3: supposed to come offy are. All reports were good, and

1497
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: their offense is night and day without him and straw

1498
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 3: By the way, he's been very good as an underdog,

1499
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 3: not as great as a favorite, but you got a

1500
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: top tier quarterback at home. Their offense is also a

1501
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 3: juggernaut at home on a fast turf, so with the

1502
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 3: Lions to be fair, but I just thought it was

1503
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: a great spot in the lines. They just cover every week.

1504
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, so I mean, I'll probably lose there.

1505
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: I think they're forty and fifteen against the spread over

1506
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 3: their past fifty five games. That is unheard of, and

1507
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 3: that it's been a run of favorites. It's the most

1508
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: successful five weeks of NFL favorites over the past twenty years.

1509
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: That they're just crushing road favorites as well. Just one

1510
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 3: of those stretches a lot of variants in week to

1511
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 3: week results in the NFL.

1512
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: What do you say that means the public has been

1513
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: cashing in?

1514
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one of the best public runs of all

1515
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 3: time in the NFL. But I just like the Texans

1516
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: are still one of the better teams in the league

1517
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 3: in my opinion. You're getting them my home catch the

1518
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: four in and I assumed, you know, even Will Anderson

1519
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: Nico Collins is the big one. I mean there's six.

1520
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: I think there's six and thirteen without them. It's and

1521
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: that if you just look at Strau's splits with and

1522
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: without Collins massive and you gotta remember they lost days,

1523
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 3: so I figured he's gonna be back, and he doesn't

1524
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: practice yet this week, and I don't know if he's

1525
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: gonna play or not. That's huge, Like I wouldn't love

1526
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: it as much. I would say, then the line would

1527
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 3: probably creep back out to four, in which case I'd

1528
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 3: still like the Texans, but obviously not as much. They've

1529
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 3: been dealing with injuries on defense. You'd hope to be healthier,

1530
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 3: but I have to watch the injury report there. It's

1531
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 3: generally this is generally just like a classic spot the

1532
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: lines having great goth has been super efficient. But I mean,

1533
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: we've got to be reaching the top of their market value.

1534
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 3: And you got to remember they've gotten a lot of

1535
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 3: help over the past couple of weeks. They played. You know,

1536
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: in the Titans game, they had the Titans moved the

1537
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: ball will the Lions just had about like three hundred

1538
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 3: yards and three hundred return yards. That was like a

1539
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 3: college game. They scored fifty two point it's with like

1540
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty yards. Last week, you know, they

1541
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 3: got out game by two hundred yards. They have two

1542
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 3: hundred yards and one and covered that game, they get

1543
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 3: a pick six, the Packers just you know, kiss all

1544
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 3: over themselves in the red zone. They were pretty fortunate

1545
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: in that game, and Jordan Love clearly just wasn't one

1546
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 3: hundred percent. They faced the you know, the Cowboys who

1547
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: were decimated and they haven't been very good, decimated with

1548
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 3: injuries on defense scene with the Seahawks in a good

1549
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: sport that over.

1550
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: Do you think he would have started Malik Willis if

1551
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: you gave him true seer him he could just do

1552
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: that over and give him a week off or that's

1553
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, coach had to start their starter, you.

1554
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, and then you got to I think he

1555
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: would have because you also have to consider I mean,

1556
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: he was probably just thinking it's like, hey, it's my guy,

1557
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 3: and it's a huge division swing game. So I can't

1558
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 3: really blame them, but I maybe would have went. I

1559
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: think you get a true he might have went to

1560
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 3: Willis in the second half they were running the ball.

1561
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: I think I think you tweeted that didn't put him

1562
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 3: in like and then you have to remember, like you were,

1563
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 3: you have nothing to lose, and at that point you're

1564
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: down seventeen to three. The only thing that you could lose,

1565
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 3: is that Love could get more injured on you know,

1566
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 3: dealing with that injury in those conditions, and you have

1567
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: a buy coming up, So I would have given it

1568
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 3: a shot, and you can run on this. Last year,

1569
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: you couldn't run on this Detroit defense. You know. They

1570
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: they did add to their defensive line with Hidarius, so

1571
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: that they're going to be a little bit better. But

1572
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: since they lost Hutchinson had some other injuries, you can

1573
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 3: run on them a bit. So Mixon could have some

1574
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 3: success here. But if Collins plays, I really like the Texans.

1575
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: If not, it gets a bit if here. But I

1576
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: still think this line would be a bit too high

1577
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 3: with where it closes around for.

1578
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: What if you think about it the Halloween game, two

1579
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: of their touchdowns, Like it's not like the Texans are

1580
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: bad on defense. I mean one of the third and

1581
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: twenty or whatever, he throws it up and I mean

1582
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: makes one of the greatest catches.

1583
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,520
Speaker 3: Of all time on the unroll the first.

1584
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 2: Touchdown, you know, on a blitz where Rogers, you know,

1585
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: if he helds it another half second, gets absolutely killed

1586
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: and he makes a great play that the dB got

1587
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: a little aggressive, and Garrett Wilson made another one handed catch.

1588
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean he had two touchdowns. He didn't even use

1589
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: one of his hands. Think about that. So now it's

1590
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: that was just a high level NFL play. I do

1591
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: think we have to acknowledge that the one touchdown, which

1592
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: is like the Odell Beckham on steroids catch, like that's

1593
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: that was lucky play. I mean Rogers just threw it up,

1594
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: he's covered, and he just makes one of the great

1595
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: catches of all time. So I still I viewed them

1596
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: as having a good defense. And obviously Demiko is one

1597
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: of the better coordinators in the league. So I don't

1598
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: hate your mindset there. I just Detroit. I just I've

1599
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: bet against him a couple of times and I've gotten killed.

1600
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Same, But I also expect I expect the Texans

1601
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 3: to have some changes on the offensive line this league.

1602
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: That's something that really could come out of the any left.

1603
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 2: Guard position is just whoever's been getting destroyed.

1604
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like you could see Titus Howard, their right tackle,

1605
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 3: moved to guard this week, and then I don't think

1606
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna see Green in there anymore. He's been a turnstile.

1607
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: And you could see Blake Fisher, who they drafted out

1608
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 3: of Notre Dame promising right tackle. I think you could

1609
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 3: see him at tackle. We'll see. I mean, there's a

1610
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: there's also they had some other interior injuries guys that

1611
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: could be back this week that could help them there.

1612
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 3: But I'm sure that's what they spent most of the

1613
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 3: bye week working on. But uh at Nico Collins is

1614
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: just massive, one of the most important receivers to his team,

1615
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: especially now without Digs.

1616
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, let's go to college. I mean, one

1617
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 2: of the best games every year BAM at LSU night game,

1618
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 2: LSU catching three points. As I looked this morning at home,

1619
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: I kind of like the spot for LAS. That was

1620
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: just my first inclination was like, I don't know, I

1621
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: actually think LSU, who obviously has been up and down

1622
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: this season, but at home at night. This BAMA team's

1623
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: been weird. I saw yesterday they lost, you know, this week,

1624
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 2: another player, one of their wide receivers out for the year.

1625
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 2: I mean, they're so dependent on the seventeen year old kid.

1626
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he's eighteen by now, but Ryan Williams, who's I mean,

1627
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 2: it looks like Jerry Rice. But you usually don't see

1628
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: elite programs just writing seventeen eighteen year olds. But kind

1629
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: of the case, I don't know. I just you remember

1630
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: two years ago, LSU beat him on a walk off touchdown, right,

1631
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm watching that game. That was a badass game. But

1632
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think, if I'm going

1633
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: to take anybody in this game, I'm taking LSU.

1634
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet LSU here, Brian Kelly, it's a playoff

1635
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: game too. This is a playoff game. I don't this

1636
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 3: is there's no situational advantage for either team. This is

1637
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: basically an elimination game, both teams coming off of a bye.

1638
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly's been really good off of by twenty eleven

1639
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: against the spread. He's also been really good as an

1640
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 3: underdog of three or more points twenty eight, thirteen and

1641
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 3: one sixty eight point three percent. Look, Adbor has been

1642
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 3: great in big games. We saw that against Georgia. But

1643
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I have to take the three year

1644
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that they're This line is implying that

1645
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,520
Speaker 3: there's like a touchdown difference between these teams, and you

1646
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: you know, desider, it's of LSU's plus three and then

1647
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 3: you know death balley at night home field advantage pretty

1648
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: massive like you're talking near a touchdown. Uh not For

1649
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 3: the home field advantage in total, for the difference between

1650
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: these teams, I just can't get there. I mean, this

1651
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: Alabama team has it has warts. This isn't your older

1652
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 3: brother's Alabama team. They had that explosion against Georgia with

1653
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 3: the great game plan, and that could happen here. Like

1654
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 3: Duboor extra time of repair. We'll see what he comes

1655
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 3: out with.

1656
01:26:59,760 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: No.

1657
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 3: I think was dealing with some bumps and bruises, So

1658
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: he could be a bit healthier here and you just

1659
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: unleash him and his legs. One of the fascinating things

1660
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: to watch is LSU, I'm sure, and their defense, which

1661
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 3: is getting better each week under the new defensive coordinator

1662
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: of Blake Baker. They lost that Texan ang him because

1663
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 3: they weren't prepared for the running quarterback. Well now you're

1664
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 3: getting Jaln Milbro. They're at least can be more prepared.

1665
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 3: Can they make the necessary adjustments. So we'll see if

1666
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 3: that's the case. But LSU's where I think also has

1667
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: a big advantage here is Alabama secondary is not great.

1668
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: It's very inexperienced. You can pick on them and they

1669
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: have not really been tested. I mean, we saw Carson

1670
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 3: Beck go nuclear against I mean, it's not like Carson

1671
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 3: Beck has been great since Who have they who have

1672
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: they faced other than Georgia. They played Western Kentucky with

1673
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 3: a quarterback who's now been benched, Wisconsin, who's starting quarterback

1674
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 3: got heard on the first drive, usf whose quarterback has

1675
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 3: missed about ten wide open deep shots. And their passing

1676
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: offense is terrible. Vanderbilt not the most explosive passing offense,

1677
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 3: but they put up forty and beat Alabama South Carolina

1678
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: not the best fastesting offense, which arguably should have won

1679
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: at Alabama. And they played Tennessee, whose passing offense has

1680
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: been in the dumps, and they beat Alabama. And then

1681
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: they played Missouri with an unplayable backup quarterback. So if

1682
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 3: you look at their numbers, they're gonna be good. But

1683
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 3: look look down that list. I mean, of those passing attacks,

1684
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: nobody is that good. Meanwhile, I let's use top fifteen

1685
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: across the board. They've had a top fifteen schedule, they've

1686
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 3: had the tougher schedule, and they have a top fifteen

1687
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: passing offense, and they have an offensive line that is

1688
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 3: elite in pass protection. And the Alabama defensive line is

1689
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: just not as e leite that's been in years pass

1690
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: as far as generating pressure. So nus Meyer should have

1691
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 3: time here to pick apart this inexperience and really tested

1692
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 3: Alabama second are just that Georgia game and then they

1693
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: played a bunch of favorable opponents. So I think that

1694
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 3: LSU can have success moving the ball. Now, the defense

1695
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: the LSU and the one thing I will say they

1696
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 3: are missing, there's one of their starting guards is really

1697
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: good Dellinger, So we'll see if that ends up being

1698
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: like the weak link of the offensive line, but it's

1699
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 3: not an elite, elite Dama pass rush. On the other side, Milroe,

1700
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: the offense, the Albama offensive line is a problem and

1701
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: the LSU defensive line is an underrated group that's getting better.

1702
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 3: So Norah is going to be under fire here. Like

1703
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some negative plays that I think can

1704
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: kill some drives. It comes down to he's the best

1705
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 3: deep ball thrower in college football and LSU is vulnerable

1706
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: to expose the plays aggressive defense can How how many

1707
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: of those does Milroe hit? And just is LSU's defense

1708
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 3: prepared for the for Milroe's lives, and I think it's

1709
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: actually ends up being a good thing. That they got

1710
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 3: roasted by Texas A and M and Marcel Reid when

1711
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 3: they just weren't ready. I think that before the buy.

1712
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Getting roasted like that by a running quarterback I think helps.

1713
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 3: But we'll see if they make the necessary adjustments. I

1714
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 3: think it's gonna it sets up as a thriller. So

1715
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: I had to take the three at home with with LSU.

1716
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: This Alabama teams, they looked vulnerable all year. I mean

1717
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 3: they there you could argue, and you could say the

1718
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 3: same thing with LSU too, Like these two teams have

1719
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 3: both been up and down. LS you probably should have

1720
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 3: lost a ole miss at home. They probably should have

1721
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 3: lost at South Carolina when they got all those calls

1722
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 3: they were down big. But Alabama probably should have lost

1723
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 3: to South Carolina as well at home. And you know,

1724
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: if they didn't squeak out, He's both these teams didn't

1725
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 3: squeak out one of those wins, they would already be eliminated.

1726
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 2: But I think I don't think that. I think you

1727
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 2: can do that a lot with college football though this year,

1728
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 2: because I could do that with Georgia. I could do that.

1729
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but that's that I agree with you. But

1730
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 3: I think that that's one of the reasons I just

1731
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 3: took the three points is I don't think that there's

1732
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: much difference between a lot of these teams at the

1733
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 3: top anymore. There's not a huge separation, so like, I

1734
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 3: don't think that there's this huge gap up close to

1735
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 3: a touchdown between these teams, and especially in the SEC. Like,

1736
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 3: as you said, you can do this with a lot

1737
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 3: of the teams in the SEC. It's one of the

1738
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 3: reasons SEC underdogs this season are I believe twenty eight

1739
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 3: and may double check I think twenty nine and thirteen

1740
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 3: against the spread. Yeah, twenty nine and thirteen against the

1741
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 3: spread and league play SEC underdogs.

1742
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Then do you, I mean, do you like ole Miss

1743
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 2: at home against Georgia, because I mean, I just can't

1744
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 2: take this Georgia quarterback seriously.

1745
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 3: I mean, he's I did played Mors plus three. Yeah,

1746
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 3: I played ole Miss plus three for some of the

1747
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 3: same reasons. If you just look at data this year,

1748
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 3: Oh Miss is the better team. Now there's you have

1749
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: to respect. The scary thing here is that and he's

1750
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 3: got I think it's gonna be a close game as well.

1751
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 3: There's some interesting things A couple of times.

1752
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 2: This game is this a night game?

1753
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 3: Elis U's at seven point thirty and Georgia I believe

1754
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: it's at the three thirty game. Yeah, it's the three

1755
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: thirty game, the three thirty sec game. This is this

1756
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,959
Speaker 3: is I think there's not as big of a separation

1757
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 3: between these teams. And this is again assuming this is

1758
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 3: implying that the difference between these teams is like six

1759
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 3: points when you account for the homefield events. I don't

1760
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 3: see that. And if you just go based on this

1761
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 3: year's data, ole Miss has actually been better than Georgia.

1762
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: And I mean the Georgia offense they've been it's it's

1763
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 3: not good right now. They can't run the ball, and

1764
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 3: Carson Beck appears lost, he's tentative, he's not reading defenses.

1765
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 3: I mean, on the season, Beck has more turnover worthy

1766
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 3: plays than big time throws, four turnover worthy plays, no

1767
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 3: big time throws over the past two games. Last year,

1768
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 3: at this point in the season, he had two times

1769
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: as many big time throws as turnover worthy plays at

1770
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 3: and he's also completing just thirty six percent of his

1771
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 3: passes under pressure. Well. Ole Miss as dominant of a

1772
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 3: defensive line as there is in college football. They have

1773
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 3: six defenders at least twenty pressure. They're number one in Havoc. Like,

1774
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 3: he's going to be under fire here. So I but

1775
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 3: the one of the while the two things that I'm

1776
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: worried about here are well, I guess I should say three,

1777
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 3: but I had to take the three points. Kirby is

1778
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 3: smart in a big game. I mean, he's this guy's

1779
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 3: like sixty six percent against his spread against ranked teams

1780
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: versus Lanekiffin, who's not being good in big games. That

1781
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: so the coaching edge there for Georgia scares me a bit.

1782
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 3: Will George's defensive line, which has been up and down

1783
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: some games, they some weeks they dominate, some weeks they don't.

1784
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 3: Will they overwhelm the Ole Miss offensive line? That's what happened,

1785
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, Georgia dead against Texas. That's the best they've

1786
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 3: looked all year in defensive Texas offensive is better than

1787
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: Ole Miss. The Old Miss weakness of their entire team

1788
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 3: is that offensive line. Will they just completely overwhelmed Dart?

1789
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 3: But I do think Dark's mobility and his legs are

1790
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 3: important here. You need mobility to beat a Kirby smart defense,

1791
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why Texas struggled so much. They

1792
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 3: don't have that.

1793
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: But the other thing, the other in Alabama does right.

1794
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, which is the only team that Georgia has lost

1795
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 3: to in years. But also it's worth noting that this

1796
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 3: is not a playoff game, because I think Georgia they

1797
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 3: just beat Tennessee next week, then they beat Georgia Tech,

1798
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 3: and they're going to go to the coltur A playoff.

1799
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 3: They're ten and two. All the desperation is all on

1800
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 3: ole Miss aside. Maybe that works against them, but I

1801
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: think you're going to see more upsets with teams in

1802
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 3: this role than in a new format. But the other

1803
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 3: thing that's worth noting is the injury report for ole Miss.

1804
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 3: I think Lane Kiffin is just playing games, but he

1805
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: has twenty seven guys is on the SEC availability report,

1806
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 3: including his two best receivers who are listed as doubtful.

1807
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna play, but and then there's every

1808
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 3: like starter is listed on the injury report, so that

1809
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: adds some uncertainty. I can't imagine like this is their season.

1810
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 3: This is like literally their season. They lose their act.

1811
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: Think he's got to be kirt.

1812
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I assume that's what's going on here. But yeah, I

1813
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 3: had to take the three with Ole Miss should be

1814
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: another really good game. But I just yeah that every

1815
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 3: week is making a key mistake or two. It's I mean,

1816
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: even at winning at Texas. He was bad in that game.

1817
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 3: The win against the game where they played Alabama where

1818
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 3: they put up all those yards and points. He also

1819
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: had a ton of turnovers in that game. He just

1820
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like he's seeing the field right now. That's

1821
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: problematic against a very very good Ole Miss defense that

1822
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 3: can get a ton of pressure up front.

1823
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: You gave out a nice little winner at the end

1824
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: last last week air Force against Army, and then right

1825
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: before kickoff, I think like it was announced that or

1826
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 2: that morning that Army's quarterback was going to be out,

1827
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 2: and that was a nice little cruise cover. Uh. They

1828
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: scored I think what fourteen points in the second half.

1829
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: It was really I mean, they were they were right

1830
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 2: in it. Uh you got any games like that? This

1831
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: week did something of just a little off the beaten path.

1832
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 2: You're like, I fucking love this.

1833
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 3: I will say, let's see, it's probably time to buy

1834
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 3: low and so high. And when the Rutgers Minnesota Minnesota

1835
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 3: has been rolling of late. I do like Rutgers off

1836
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 3: the buyer. They should be healthier, but I'll get you

1837
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: a late night one. This isn't off the beaten path.

1838
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: But although in the Service Academy games, I don't mind

1839
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: fading Army again this week paved by like six. We'll

1840
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 3: see if daily goes. But the North Texas offense is

1841
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 3: really good. Army's defense is faced nobody with a pulse

1842
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: all year. This is like a top twenty offense coming

1843
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 3: off of a bye. And I also don't mind fadon

1844
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 3: Navy either. I guess I'm being on American this week.

1845
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 3: But Holy War Saturday night, ten pm Eastern, I think

1846
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 3: you got to take the points with the Utah catching four.

1847
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 2: That jumped out to me too BYU at Utah, I.

1848
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 3: Was like, Utah has been so bad. This is but

1849
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 3: this is their super Bowl, their season. They're coming off

1850
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: a bye, which is important because their defense needed to arrest.

1851
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 3: Their offense been given no help. They've been on the

1852
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 3: field forever and there they Their offensive coordinator stepped down

1853
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 3: at the end of October. They had an interim, so

1854
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: now you have extra time to like implement some things.

1855
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 3: There's some wrinkles that you can put in. There's the

1856
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 3: uncertainty with who they're gonna play, even play at quarterback.

1857
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 3: It's either gonna be Rose or Wilson. B YU doesn't know.

1858
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 3: That's some uncertainty that works in your favor. BYU, it's

1859
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 3: been very good. They're undefeated, but this is I mean,

1860
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: they've also been quite fortunate. Like they should have lost

1861
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, they've won. They were a fluky win against

1862
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Kansas State. I mean, it looks like they blow them out,

1863
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 3: but they got all kinds of defensive and special teams touchdowns,

1864
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 3: so they've been a bit fortunate. This is in Jake

1865
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: fretz lath Or quarterback. He's been good, but he's gotten

1866
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 3: away with some risky throws and he hasn't been good

1867
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 3: against cover one. That's all Utah is gonna do here.

1868
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 3: This Utah defense is very good. I think the Uyu

1869
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 3: receivers are really good in certain ways, but they're not

1870
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 3: like the guys who are gonna beat just burn you

1871
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 3: against aggressive man on the outside, which is what Utah

1872
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 3: is gonna run. Utah disappointing year, but this this is

1873
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: their super Bowl at home, raucous environment off of Bye.

1874
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 3: I think you got to take the four points here.

1875
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: And I mean even BYU is like plus seven turnover

1876
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 3: March and they're fifteen of eighteen on fourth downs this season,

1877
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 3: Like there's some regression coming there. This will be like

1878
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 3: an ugly game that Utah can just lean on Bernard.

1879
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 3: They're running back and against a bad BYU run defense

1880
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 3: and stay in this. So I like the utes late

1881
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 3: night on Saturday. I think that starts with like ten

1882
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 3: eastern seven, ten thirty eastern seven thirty.

1883
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 2: So have you guys, You guys got some late night

1884
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: games on the East Coast. I remember going out to

1885
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 2: the bars in Philly and be like, you know, eleven

1886
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: o'clock and you look up at the TV on Saturday

1887
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 2: night and be kicking off. There's a fucking wild ride

1888
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: out here.

1889
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 3: No, I like it for that. People hate it, but

1890
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 3: I never sleep. But I also like being out at

1891
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 3: the bar with the I go out and there's the

1892
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: games on TV. Yeah that I'm sweating late. But for

1893
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 3: many Saner people, I can see why they prefer the

1894
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 3: West Coast.

1895
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 2: And the good thing is, you know, the the Overseas

1896
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 2: game is coming back this week, but it is so

1897
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 2: irrelevant that even if you love football, you do not

1898
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 2: need to get up even for the first half if

1899
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: you live on the West so you can sleep in

1900
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, well that's a bad game.

1901
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will be sleeping in for this one. Another

1902
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 3: bad game for the feel sorry for the Germans, and

1903
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 3: I guess I always got to give up one on

1904
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 3: ugly NFL pick the Saints. I had to play the

1905
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 3: Saints this week, catching three and a half four just

1906
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 3: too many points. Won't be in pressure interim boost facts

1907
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: been getting very fortunate close games. All they do is

1908
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 3: play close games. How to play it? This is all right.

1909
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 3: If there's seven straight losses, fire coach, it's just a spot.

1910
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 3: I have to play day. I've been hitting this year,

1911
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:18,759
Speaker 3: but I have to play.

1912
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 2: It in New Orleans. Yes, okay, well I appreciate it.

1913
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate it and go uh at utah game. I like

1914
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 2: a nice tasty uh little little action at night, So.

1915
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a fun with be a great environment.

1916
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I have a good weekend. Brother. I'll

1917
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 3: see you next week. See you, buddy.

1918
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 2: The volume