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Speaker 1: State championship week here at at the Yes WBC podcast
Speaker 1: studio at the Star in Frisco, Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola. And we have football players on the
Speaker 1: football field today. It is an outdoor practice, but not
Speaker 1: in pads. Mickey Shells by the way, outdoor, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the fog lifted finally. I thought the way when I
Speaker 1: went home last night the fog was sick. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: they can't practice outside tomorrow. This continues. Yeah, my son
Speaker 1: went walked the dog last night. Man, it's crazy. He
Speaker 1: needed great off. Yeah, and good news about practice because
Speaker 1: I saw Kelvin Joseph, who missed practice yesterday with an illness,
Speaker 1: was out there. Same thing with Jonathan Hankins. They had
Speaker 1: him listed as non injury personal yesterday and he was
Speaker 1: back or supposed to be back on the practice field too.
Speaker 1: So good news on the injury. Did you see the
Speaker 1: Texans injury report? I did. They had eight guys that
Speaker 1: DNP for either injury rest or personal or illness. Illness. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think it was more personal personal. I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like coming in today side. We sucks. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think you Yeah right, this hurts just okay. So
Speaker 1: I have their injury report here, and the most significant
Speaker 1: thing from that injury report who is who's not on
Speaker 1: that injury report? The dnps Mario Addison, kne MALIEK. Collins,
Speaker 1: the former Cowboy non injury rest, Nico Collins wide receiver
Speaker 1: a foot, Brandon Cook's wide receiver a calf, Troy Hairston fullback,
Speaker 1: chest Kurt Hiness defensive lineman's shoulder, Jerry Hughes, the former
Speaker 1: TCU horn Frog, who, by the way, has eight sacks
Speaker 1: on the season, and he's non injury rest. Derek Stingley,
Speaker 1: the number three overall pick in the draft, who missed
Speaker 1: last week's game as a hamstring and an illness. All
Speaker 1: the dnps on that list, and so you counted up
Speaker 1: eight of them, eight of them, and then limited was
Speaker 1: their kicker with a right groin. I assume he's right footed.
Speaker 1: He's been very good this year. Yeah, he's a twenty
Speaker 1: one out of twenty three Kimie fairbar and he has
Speaker 1: not missed an extra point. The problem for the Texans
Speaker 1: He's only attempted fifteen extra points, but he is perfect
Speaker 1: fifteen per fifteen if they get to the end zone,
Speaker 1: he's he's been money. Hey man, I don't want to
Speaker 1: laugh too much. I'm not lying. I know. Not good.
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. And we grew up in
Speaker 1: the church, man. You know, you gotta be careful on
Speaker 1: stuff like that because it's gonna come back on That's right,
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Try not to be too flipping about this.
Speaker 1: They have another TCU horned frog, Garrett Wallow, linebacker who
Speaker 1: is on the injury report with an ankle injury, but
Speaker 1: he was a full participant yesterday. And when I mentioned
Speaker 1: there's the name missing from that injury report who is
Speaker 1: very significant, that would be one Rex Burkhead, who missed
Speaker 1: last week's game with a concussion, but he apparently is
Speaker 1: playing this week's homecoming game for Rex Burkhead, the former
Speaker 1: Plano Senior High wild Kids. Getting your tickets to the game,
Speaker 1: you know, he's dad. His dad actually works at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium security. Yeah. I think you mentioned that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talked about. Yeah, yeah, your little hometown guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So there you go. There is your Houston
Speaker 1: Texans report. I actually studied a lot of the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans yesterday. You did h and felt like I needed,
Speaker 1: like coach needed to study extra game film of the
Speaker 1: Texans to make to familiarize myself with these players. And
Speaker 1: I actually looked at their depth chart and there wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of names I recognized, by the way. There
Speaker 1: are some though, some m Okay, well, the coach himself
Speaker 1: is kind of Lovey from Big Sandy, Texas. Lovey Smith.
Speaker 1: That's my dad said, that's the best looking for back
Speaker 1: he's ever seen play in his lafe. Yeah, yeah, there's state.
Speaker 1: Speaking of state championships, Big Sandy with Lovey Smith and
Speaker 1: David Overstreet back in the seventies state champion team even
Speaker 1: before we came along. And my dad, you know those
Speaker 1: East Texas kids, you know, it's a lot of great athlete.
Speaker 1: It's kind from these taxes. My dad was some allegian
Speaker 1: fields in Marshall, Texas, and he loved some football and
Speaker 1: there is a former Dallas Cowboy who Lovey Smith very
Speaker 1: important in his career both in well in college and
Speaker 1: making a transition, uh position change in college that set
Speaker 1: him forth on what is should be a Hall of
Speaker 1: fame career. That would be one Darren Woodson. Lovey Smith
Speaker 1: was his position coach a state. Yeah, and I knew
Speaker 1: there was one name familiar on their coaching staff. One
Speaker 1: George Warhop. You remember him Cowboys former offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: um maybe in the two thousands. That's crazy how even
Speaker 1: the coaches, even the offensive line coaches of someone that
Speaker 1: you don't recognize. Yeah, it's the one I wreck right.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Warhop was here oh three oh four,
Speaker 1: so the first couple of years of Bill Parcel's time
Speaker 1: as Cowboys, so right before Sperrano offensive line coach here
Speaker 1: at oh three h four, before Sperrano got here. And
Speaker 1: then he went to San Francisco as the offensive line
Speaker 1: coach when Mike McCarthy was the offensive coordinator for the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers Mike Nolan's first year there. And of notes,
Speaker 1: since you mentioned offensive line, Tyrn Smith did practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: They were not in pads, probably shells or whatever. They
Speaker 1: were indoors and we were in here, and so you
Speaker 1: didn't get an opportunity. I heard that he was getting
Speaker 1: his hands on people and they were not happy. He's
Speaker 1: got work to do, right, you know, I got to
Speaker 1: catch up, man. You know, Eddie had his he had
Speaker 1: his U knee braces on his elbows. Uh. And there
Speaker 1: were a couple times where he locked on and they
Speaker 1: weren't going anywhere. And I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: on the scout team or what, because I'm sure he
Speaker 1: wasn't getting reps with the regular guys, but they wanted
Speaker 1: to get him going. And by all accounts, he looked
Speaker 1: pretty good. Lacy looked strong, right, So I think I
Speaker 1: read somebody said that you know he put those um,
Speaker 1: those knee braces on his elbows, yes, and and that
Speaker 1: uh they barely fit because he's been lifted so much man.
Speaker 1: He I mean, he's got hands, but those braces. I
Speaker 1: was I was watching that yesterday, going, you think it
Speaker 1: might help me something, make you stronger? No, No, there's no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah. Yeah, I think when he first he
Speaker 1: looks even big with those braces on his arms, he
Speaker 1: looks more like the Fox guy. Right when he first
Speaker 1: got here. I believe it was him. They nicknamed Hotel
Speaker 1: California because when he got his hands on you, you
Speaker 1: could never leave. As you were talking about that. As
Speaker 1: you were talking about that, I was, you know, at
Speaker 1: the when he goes into the Hall of Fame, which
Speaker 1: will happen, right, that will be the thing they talk
Speaker 1: about about his play style more than anything, or his
Speaker 1: strong hands. Yeah, and and they evidently he hasn't lost that.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta say his humility as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have never heard this guy boast a brag or anything.
Speaker 1: And I went on the cruise with him one time,
Speaker 1: one of those cowboy cruises, and uh, it was. It
Speaker 1: was good to be with him. He's really quiet, really nice,
Speaker 1: and I had a video of him dancing, so I
Speaker 1: don't get a blackmail him with that. But now he's
Speaker 1: real cool. He had a good time. You know, you
Speaker 1: don't see him shout at all. Right, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what's interesting about it, because he is he's a
Speaker 1: gentle giant. Okay for us in the media, I mean
Speaker 1: his whole time here over a decade. Now, okay, you
Speaker 1: don't approach him in the locker room for an interview
Speaker 1: and it's because he's so big, you know, but he's
Speaker 1: the nicest guys, but it's not something you get the
Speaker 1: feeling he enjoys doing interviews, and so it's like he
Speaker 1: just leaves, okay, but but it's almost like the media
Speaker 1: is intimidated by him. Black, a defensive lineman would be
Speaker 1: even to go up and ask him for an interviews
Speaker 1: even though yeah he's a because he really, like you said,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want the interview. I think he's happy with
Speaker 1: that little persona and I think he kind of that
Speaker 1: you can kind of feel that, right, right, yeah, hey man,
Speaker 1: just just it's like bund boundaries. There's people out there.
Speaker 1: You got to test their temperature before you approach him,
Speaker 1: right and yeah, hell you know his temperature. They asked
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith about it. It was good to see him
Speaker 1: out there, and he goes yeah, and they were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, how much does he help you? And he goes, well,
Speaker 1: he's kind of quiet, especially compared to Tyler. And I
Speaker 1: was saying, remember and I can't remember who pointed this out,
Speaker 1: and they go, well, how was he and he goes, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was grunning. He grunted a couple of times. So anyway,
Speaker 1: he's out there. Yeah, and uh and James Washington. I
Speaker 1: talked to him for a little bit yesterday in the
Speaker 1: locker room. He's ready to go. It's just a matter
Speaker 1: of when they want to get him going. He's been
Speaker 1: ready for a couple of weeks, just kind of chomping
Speaker 1: at the bit. And Anthony Brown did have his surgery
Speaker 1: on the achilles already this week. Doctor Curry did the surgery,
Speaker 1: which means he's in really good hands because if he
Speaker 1: fixed mine, I bet he can fix a professional athletes achilles.
Speaker 1: Not much, not much cleaned up. Yeah, right, you probably
Speaker 1: a lot. Probably, Well, we want to be careful there
Speaker 1: someone forty years younger, yes, shape yeah, now really I
Speaker 1: think in real time he would be probably like sixty
Speaker 1: years younger. If you just got looked at it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't he had he had better achilles in
Speaker 1: there to repair. Wasn't aging, No, it was not. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a update on somewhat now refresh my memory.
Speaker 1: Last week, the Cowboys made a move and the roster
Speaker 1: was now the fifty two. Did it go back? They've
Speaker 1: got fifty one now? Okay, so they too because they
Speaker 1: haven't replaced Anthony Brown, right, and they haven't. They haven't
Speaker 1: even made a move on Anthony Brown. Ye as yesterday yea,
Speaker 1: and so so yeah, when Anthony Brown goes on IR,
Speaker 1: that would be two spots. So they don't even have
Speaker 1: to make a move, uh to activate James Washington. No, no,
Speaker 1: like get rid of somebody, right Yeah. And and I
Speaker 1: think some people were thinking, well, they got James Washington
Speaker 1: coming back, they won't have room for Odell Odell. I thought,
Speaker 1: see everybody's like, everybody's like, um, well, well yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're still discussing this, and they, from what I can tell,
Speaker 1: over at this point, they're over It's a done deal.
Speaker 1: They are not over him. It's not happening. And you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons pointed out that somebody asked Michael, he said,
Speaker 1: did Odell say, like when you know when he could
Speaker 1: get back? And he's he said, Odell said, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm probably five weeks away, playoffs, five weeks away. But
Speaker 1: that's getting back into practice now. He's got to ramp
Speaker 1: up and to be ramped up maybe in time for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, can you do that? Just come
Speaker 1: back for the Bowl? Sure? If he's if you if
Speaker 1: you've signed him to your roster? Yeah, yeah, can you
Speaker 1: sign him super Bowl week? I definitely talking can claim
Speaker 1: somebody off of No, I mean he's a free agent
Speaker 1: free agents, I don't. I think there's some sort of
Speaker 1: rule about that. I don't. I'm not sure. It's been
Speaker 1: a while since we've Super Bowl rosters. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: there's the point on a serious note, if he's no
Speaker 1: better than that, Now, what's he been doing? And you know,
Speaker 1: when I wrote my column, it was like, when you're
Speaker 1: on your own, you don't rehab like if you're with
Speaker 1: the team, right, because somebody's got in jurisdiction of you.
Speaker 1: When you're rehabbing on your own, you're hiring some guy
Speaker 1: and you can't make that guy mad, Like he's gonna
Speaker 1: get mad at you because he's getting paid. So you're
Speaker 1: still the boss. He's Yeah, you're the boss, not him.
Speaker 1: Now think about it. You know, he can wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning and go, you know, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like it today. You don't wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: until britt Brown n I don't feel like it today. Right.
Speaker 1: You think it's intimidating going up to Tyrne Smith in
Speaker 1: the locker room. It's really intimidating going up to brittle.
Speaker 1: Probably Brittle probably get in the car and come and
Speaker 1: get this is what we do right now. I don't
Speaker 1: know how how well he would react to that, but
Speaker 1: I would be very surprised because that that sounds like
Speaker 1: that could happen in a very casual manner. I would
Speaker 1: be very surprised if a professional approached a rehab in
Speaker 1: a casual manner. So I'm hoping that didn't happen. Here's
Speaker 1: what I'm hope hoping. And we go oss the explanation. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's the second one because a second search on the
Speaker 1: same area. Maybe it's just gonna take longer because it's
Speaker 1: the second surgery. No, it is gonna take longer because
Speaker 1: when they fix it the first time, when they take
Speaker 1: the what do they take a tendon or some I
Speaker 1: have no idea. I think they take a tendon out
Speaker 1: of your out of your fire or whatever and put redo.
Speaker 1: That's what replaces your the ligament a cl But when
Speaker 1: you do it the second time, you got to go
Speaker 1: to the other knee because that tendon is no longer there.
Speaker 1: But in regards to heal, no, but you got to
Speaker 1: now you got two two knees, two legs to heal. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so and to me, I think just the mechan when
Speaker 1: you start dealing with mechanism in there, one tending, okay,
Speaker 1: then the second tending. I have an idea that maybe
Speaker 1: it's just inherently gonna take longer because it's the second surgery.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the tendon I get, you can get it
Speaker 1: from another leg all that, But I mean just to
Speaker 1: go back into that same area that's got to heal
Speaker 1: a little bit slower than it would after. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: easier because the tunnel's already in the Yeah, okay. Here's
Speaker 1: the report on the original ACL surgery that he had
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and this is from Ian Rappaport. All Right,
Speaker 1: the procedure, which was performed in twenty twenty, was performed
Speaker 1: by a non team affiliated doctor, led to a rehab
Speaker 1: that took longer than expected. While Beckham was training in Arizona,
Speaker 1: some wondered if he wasn't working hard enough. Turns out,
Speaker 1: and just not a great surgery. Oh wait, no, just
Speaker 1: not a great surgery. That's why that wasn't him. It
Speaker 1: was the surgery, that's well, let me tell why. When
Speaker 1: you go through the team because he wasn't on a team.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was a free agent, was a free agent,
Speaker 1: and he's a free That's why if if this happened
Speaker 1: to you and I was your agent, I would tell
Speaker 1: you you just sign on the practice squad because you
Speaker 1: get to come to the Dallas Cowboys and rehab here
Speaker 1: with Britt Brown, not with some guy you hired. Right,
Speaker 1: even if it cost you money, it's in your best interest.
Speaker 1: And Rappaport said, and I don't know what the date is,
Speaker 1: this is from April, okay. Rappaport reported that Beckham's surgically
Speaker 1: originally original surgically prepared knee from two years ago was
Speaker 1: concerning enough that the Rams didn't want to sign him
Speaker 1: to a long term deal. They only signed him to
Speaker 1: a one year deal one point two So before the
Speaker 1: Rams signed Odell this past season, the knee was a
Speaker 1: concern because it was not one healthy and so what
Speaker 1: they are hoping, what Beckham is hoping, is that this
Speaker 1: second surgery has corrected what was the issue in the
Speaker 1: first but which which would mean that the rehab might
Speaker 1: be longer because it's the second surgery on the same knee. Well,
Speaker 1: it's already longer, and wow, man, that is but you
Speaker 1: compare it to like Michael Gallup. Michael Gallup had his
Speaker 1: surgery in which was a first acl we had it
Speaker 1: in February, six weeks difference. And and but he had
Speaker 1: his surgery in February, and then he sort of the
Speaker 1: timeline on it and he was playing in a game
Speaker 1: and late October or what where did he come back
Speaker 1: something like that in November. Yeah, so we're looking at Beckham,
Speaker 1: he's working on eleven months, right, Yeah, there's basically nine
Speaker 1: months on Gallup to be back in a game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and so here here that the first the
Speaker 1: initial diagnosis was the Rams weren't happy with what did
Speaker 1: it looked like? So they only game of one year deal.
Speaker 1: Then he goes out there and got hurt. And so
Speaker 1: now everybody else's saying, because you know what, these these
Speaker 1: trainers that they're they discussed things with each other. It's
Speaker 1: not like my team's here, it's like they kind of trade.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and and what's the chances that something else
Speaker 1: didn't go wrong that needs to be fixed, you know,
Speaker 1: like some sort of meniscus or whatever. So he's out
Speaker 1: there balling with the GLAMs all year on the on
Speaker 1: the on the bad knee. Well he says, he says
Speaker 1: that he tore it before the Super Bowl. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he tore it before, that's what That's what one of
Speaker 1: the reports said, and he went out and balled out.
Speaker 1: I would I would think, well, I don't know about
Speaker 1: I think partial, but he probably played injured, which is
Speaker 1: what you know, that's what that way it goes. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get out there and do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And he still look good on it until that one.
Speaker 1: Don't you think at this point you could have worked
Speaker 1: out for a team if they asked you to after all? Well, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's what here's what O'Dell. No, I would not say
Speaker 1: that he could work out for a team. He's not ready.
Speaker 1: Here's what O'Dell tweeted on July second. Crazy thought really
Speaker 1: played the whole back half of the season without an
Speaker 1: ACL and won a Super Bowl. Oh well that's just
Speaker 1: what I'm not sure I believe that you can do
Speaker 1: that without it. He wants. Well, you saw what he tweeted.
Speaker 1: You saw what he tweet was yesterday, Right, I did not.
Speaker 1: I don't think I need to start fight. I didn't
Speaker 1: follow him. I just heard somebody mention it. He tweeted
Speaker 1: out a picture of a pawn. Oh yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, you mentioned yesterday. We didn't know what
Speaker 1: the hell what does that name? Still? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't have any words, just said pawn. So he's
Speaker 1: the pawn. So he thinks he's being used. I don't
Speaker 1: know he's being blamed. I don't know. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: is he being blamed? I'm not using I think there's
Speaker 1: a reef surgeon. Well he should have came to doctor Cooper.
Speaker 1: Go go ask doctor Knight. No, doctor Knight. Who was
Speaker 1: it Schwarber, the baseball player the Cubs? Is it Kyle Scharber? Scharber? Ye,
Speaker 1: when he tore his acl the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: in April, and he came to doctor Cooper to Carol
Speaker 1: Clinic to get his knee reconstructed, and by late October,
Speaker 1: this guy was batting in the World Series for the Cubs. Now,
Speaker 1: think about how quick that is. And it's a I
Speaker 1: think it's a testament to you know, getting a good
Speaker 1: surgeon to do your knee. I'm done. You guys are
Speaker 1: sitting there playing games on your computers and phone. You
Speaker 1: know he's trying to find some No, I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: This producer Supreme feels like that I need to clarify
Speaker 1: about Rick Burkhead, Rex Burkhead's dad that the last segment,
Speaker 1: I said he works security at the stadium. Well he
Speaker 1: is he in his past, in his career, he has
Speaker 1: being an FBI agent. In my understanding is Rick told
Speaker 1: me this he retired from the FBI and so, but
Speaker 1: I saw him at the stadium. We're a couple of
Speaker 1: times pre pre pregame a couple of times during the
Speaker 1: this regular season. In fact, one of the days I
Speaker 1: saw him, I can't remember who the Texans were playing,
Speaker 1: and he said, I said, so I was Rex doing
Speaker 1: and I was like, who are they playing today? And
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, I mean, how are you?
Speaker 1: And I'm friends with Rick and so I could say
Speaker 1: this other year, but I said it to him. I said,
Speaker 1: so that shows the difference where if my kid was
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, I for darn Shure will know
Speaker 1: who that they're playing in the Chargers this week. It's
Speaker 1: been he's been. He's been doing this for thirty years
Speaker 1: in his life. You know, he's thirty something years old now,
Speaker 1: probably started playing football at age three, so he's played
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And honey, who does Rex play this week?
Speaker 1: But now clear who's playing for him? When you saw him,
Speaker 1: he was not in the yellow jacket right right and
Speaker 1: with his whistle that's right, So he wasn't. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a crossing card r. He wears a suit in his
Speaker 1: retirement life. I'm not sure he has to wear a
Speaker 1: suit anymore. He wears a suit on the silky, so
Speaker 1: he's in a full blood suit. Ter of fact. You
Speaker 1: know what, I think I ran into him on Sunday
Speaker 1: because he came here one year and gave us a
Speaker 1: lecture on safety in the building effect. So I thank
Speaker 1: you for strating. All right, don't mean your friends position
Speaker 1: at the stage, So back to the cornerback position. Back
Speaker 1: to it. Please talk about this. How are we going
Speaker 1: to be with Joseph out there? And how is our
Speaker 1: dime package going to look well on third down? Normally
Speaker 1: when they go dime, it's an extra safety curse has
Speaker 1: been doing that. So first up at taking Anthony Brown's
Speaker 1: spot is Kelvin Joseph. Okay, and you know, I meant
Speaker 1: to look this up. I didn't do it to see
Speaker 1: what was his the most defensive snaps he's played in
Speaker 1: a game in his career, because I'm thinking last year
Speaker 1: it wasn't that many. But his names on the top
Speaker 1: of the lists on their little scoreboard for special teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they give points from different things, right, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the gunner, tackles, cists, whatever, and so which made
Speaker 1: me think, not only do you have to replace Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown at corner if you're replacing him with Kelvin Joseph,
Speaker 1: Now somebody's got to step up in his place on
Speaker 1: special teams because they're not going to send him out
Speaker 1: there to play all those snaps. How many injuries on
Speaker 1: special teams that might uh bleed into the defensive back position.
Speaker 1: So you got is goodman down, he's good, He's good.
Speaker 1: Oh he's good. Yeah, okay, down. They don't have any
Speaker 1: injuries listed there. He went down briefly in the game,
Speaker 1: but he got twenty special team snaps in which is
Speaker 1: after the game, and he said he was surprised when
Speaker 1: he looked up and there were so many people around
Speaker 1: him and he was on the ground. I said, are
Speaker 1: you okay? He's like, yes, I'm fine. So they're going
Speaker 1: to have to as a backup corner. Now Nashan right
Speaker 1: will have to be active and he will probably have
Speaker 1: to take up some of those special teams snaps that
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph would have had if he was out there,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been. I can look, Nashan was active
Speaker 1: for the Giants game. He had seventeen special team snaps
Speaker 1: that give yes. So now he's active. And I talked
Speaker 1: to him a little bit and said, so, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: you've always played outside yes, and he goes, yeah, he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not kind of built to play in the slot.
Speaker 1: So so he was the reason that he played the
Speaker 1: kin which was Thanksgiving. Joseph was out with an illness
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and so he was the gunner along with C. J.
Speaker 1: Goodwin in that game. So I would assume I believe
Speaker 1: he made a tackle. No, he dideah a mistake as well,
Speaker 1: but no, yeah, he's very active right there. Very active
Speaker 1: about that. To answer your question on how many snaps
Speaker 1: for Kelvin On defense, he had twenty nine in the
Speaker 1: game against Indianapolis and eighteen snaps on special teams in
Speaker 1: that game. Of course, that was the game Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: got hurt. That's why he had twenty nine snaps on defense.
Speaker 1: The other game Green Bay is when Jordan Lewis. That
Speaker 1: was the first game Jordan Lewis missed, and he was
Speaker 1: forty one snaps on defense, fifteen on special teams. So
Speaker 1: he was able to continue doing his special teams when
Speaker 1: he was filling in there with forty one snaps. But
Speaker 1: if you're gonna up it to sixty five or seventy
Speaker 1: snaps on defense, now Nashan Wright will need to be
Speaker 1: your gunner, right, would y'all agree? Yeah, someone's got to
Speaker 1: take that place out there. I remember I still started
Speaker 1: on special teams, but I mean this guy does more
Speaker 1: than that. I think he's on the kickoff team as well.
Speaker 1: And you know when I was on the special teams.
Speaker 1: If I'm a kickoff team, I'm just a safety. It's
Speaker 1: not like I'm running down the hall and ass trying
Speaker 1: to make a tackle. I'm trying to put in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So that's not as taxing as being a gunner, but
Speaker 1: you're getting double team. You know, you're getting you're getting
Speaker 1: jammed up at the line of scrimmage and that's a
Speaker 1: that's a tough task to ask a gut to start
Speaker 1: and do that at the same time, you know, unless
Speaker 1: they made a mistake gun this deal, they don't have
Speaker 1: him down for any defensive snaps for right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have him down for any defensive
Speaker 1: snaps seventeen special team snaps, right yeah. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 1: kind of where they're at now. They did sign I
Speaker 1: think we talked about it yesterday McKenzie Alexander, and he's
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. So if they need to elevate
Speaker 1: him for a body, they can they can see need
Speaker 1: ramp up time, no, because he well, at least he
Speaker 1: went to training camp with something that's been a while.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't he wasn't injured. No, he did. He
Speaker 1: did have somewhat of an injury because yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: they released ened it up on r and they released
Speaker 1: him and so did we. We obviously we did the physical.
Speaker 1: He had a groin surgery in the summer and so
Speaker 1: he passed the physical. Oh yeah, yeah, Well to me.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're not coming off a recent injury,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much ramp up time you need.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need two weeks if you're just
Speaker 1: gonna come out there and and uh play some special teams.
Speaker 1: I was gonna see if they had any other corners
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, Kendall Sheffield, Sheffield, Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: Sheffield would probably be the guy they would elevate, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, was with the Texans in preseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they know a little bit about him and he's
Speaker 1: you know, been active, So I would have bet he
Speaker 1: would be the next guy that would be elevated. And
Speaker 1: they will still have to elevate a backup center unless
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith's playing on Sunday, and I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: Would you like a little bit of news? Sure? Why
Speaker 1: not from Stuart Mandel who's on Twitter. College football writer
Speaker 1: former Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett has emerged as a
Speaker 1: finalist for the Stanford job. Multiple sources have told The
Speaker 1: Athletic Stuart Mandale works for the Athletic. The imperfect job
Speaker 1: for it would be. I always thought, going to think
Speaker 1: about the college would be where West coast to go. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's a Jersey guy. It doesn't matter. Stanford is the
Speaker 1: Princeton of the West, isn't it. That's right? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: Stanford like all the Princeton West. I just made that up.
Speaker 1: I think they do or something like that. Stanford things
Speaker 1: to an IVY League school, you know, Oklahoma. But if
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're gonna compare yourself to Ivy League Stanford,
Speaker 1: Stanford is already an IVY League school. Basically, don't right
Speaker 1: by the league? Right and now Oklahoma is the Harvard
Speaker 1: of the Southwest. We all know that. The Brown. So
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett a finalist for the Stanford job. I wonder
Speaker 1: if he will bring Babe Laffenburg. They're a former Stanford
Speaker 1: cardinal to be his quarterbacks coach. That's interesting. That is
Speaker 1: not interesting. Nate Newton for the offensive line, Jason Witten
Speaker 1: for the tight ends. Who I just saw it was
Speaker 1: named coach of the year at that is it? Are?
Speaker 1: They in taps had a very nice season at Liberty
Speaker 1: Christian and Argyle went to attending to how far did
Speaker 1: they go? They got knocked out in the playoffs second second? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: after they had to buy the first losing season last
Speaker 1: year or so, he made progress. Yeah, like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Do you think Charlotte calls for a recommendation over there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one. On the Charlotte would
Speaker 1: call the Stamford for a recommendation for Jason, I would imagine, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: By the way, yesterday we were talking about Donovan Wilson. Yes,
Speaker 1: so they asked Michael Parsons what he thought of Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson's play this year. And he starts off and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: jag I mean Dono And it was like, well, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And he goes, well, Dono came
Speaker 1: to me and said, so, if I was one of
Speaker 1: those animals, what would I be? And Parson goes his
Speaker 1: spirit animal, you would be a jaguar. And it's like,
Speaker 1: why a jaguar and he goes because he he's like
Speaker 1: one of those jaguars that you know, they're dangerous on
Speaker 1: the land, but they'll jump into the water and pull
Speaker 1: out an eighteen foot alligator. And it's like, how do
Speaker 1: you know that? He goes, I watched the videos and
Speaker 1: I've seen those jaguars jump in there and pull out
Speaker 1: the alligator and they take him up the tree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what channel do you think Michael watches more than
Speaker 1: any other? It's that Animal Channel, Discovery Channel, Nasal Geographic
Speaker 1: or that because Wild Kingdom's not on TV anymore, is it.
Speaker 1: But but he went on with with this Analogy Weekly
Speaker 1: show and something said, so, so jaguar more dangerous than
Speaker 1: the lion. He goes, well, us lions, we got the
Speaker 1: land covered but he's got the land and the water covered.
Speaker 1: This just comes off the top of his head. Good, right.
Speaker 1: So they he nicknamed Donovan Wilson Jaguar. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: He is a lean, mean machine. That about really impressive.
Speaker 1: About the recruiting pitch to Odell and that Mica talked
Speaker 1: about about education, he said, he basically said, did you
Speaker 1: did you give him a pitch to recruit him? Here?
Speaker 1: He goes, Well, yeah, he goes, but you know this
Speaker 1: ain't in college. I can't sit there and go you
Speaker 1: can get a good education. He is a piece ord uh.
Speaker 1: And that Donovan Wilson, I mean, you talk about a
Speaker 1: guy who has made a and he's done it throughout
Speaker 1: his career. He's just been able to stay healthy this
Speaker 1: time exactly. You know, he's got a lot more help
Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, that too, And we were able to
Speaker 1: put him in position to where, yeah, we can be
Speaker 1: choosy on when we bring him down and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not forced to when he's in, when he's deep,
Speaker 1: he's making plays. But also we still bring him down
Speaker 1: when it's time too, and when we need to now
Speaker 1: check out this defensive line. He is tied for the
Speaker 1: team lead with vander Ish with eighty five total tackles.
Speaker 1: He has four sacks, two tackles for losses, nine quarterback pressures,
Speaker 1: one force fumble and one interception and two pass defense
Speaker 1: n so. And by the way, this is the last
Speaker 1: year of his contract. So there's another one free agent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's another one, one of those guys that you know
Speaker 1: you spend money on, Odell Beckham Junior, not knowing when
Speaker 1: he's going to play again and when he does, how
Speaker 1: well he'll play. But you got all these free agents
Speaker 1: next year that you got to take care of, so
Speaker 1: you can't be careless with your salary camp dollars. Right
Speaker 1: as somebody I heard said, come on, Jerry, just take
Speaker 1: out your checkbook and sign them. So you look at
Speaker 1: the three safeties, Curse, Hooker, and Wilson. Curse and Hooker
Speaker 1: are signed through next season. Wilson is a free agent
Speaker 1: in the spring, yep so, And the next thing you
Speaker 1: would be doing is putting Israel and mcquamu out there.
Speaker 1: I like his number, twenty four, number twenty four in
Speaker 1: your program. I bet he was just given it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was pretty Say you did ask for twenty four.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants single numbers these days. I just saw the
Speaker 1: quote I wrote out about Parkins he goes Parsons. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you watch videos that Jaguar stuff, that's some crazy
Speaker 1: s out there. When I take the Mike McCarthy Show
Speaker 1: every Thursday, in the last segment, I tried to come
Speaker 1: up with an unsung star. Who would be your nominees
Speaker 1: for an unsung star on this Cowboys team? Last week?
Speaker 1: I asked Will McClay and Will McClay and I used
Speaker 1: it on the show. Told coach that Will mcclay's unsung
Speaker 1: star on this team, a guy that that doesn't get
Speaker 1: the recognition and he's playing very well but doesn't get
Speaker 1: necessarily the recognition that he deserves. And he said Malik
Speaker 1: Hooker was his unsung star. I think who we just
Speaker 1: talked about him, Thoughtovan Wilson is your unsung star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what, he's hardly ever in the lock
Speaker 1: so he doesn't get interviewed, you know, and after the
Speaker 1: game he disappears and it's like, man, if i'm your
Speaker 1: a go ahead. I said, if I'm your agent, I
Speaker 1: gotta get you out there, right. I mean, he's leading
Speaker 1: the team and tackles as a safety. That's pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the leaders Wilson would eighty five,
Speaker 1: vander Eshwood eighty five, and then it falls off to
Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse with fifty seven and Malik Cooker with
Speaker 1: forty seven. Just total tackles. You know what I like
Speaker 1: about that is that you don't have a Eugene Lockhart
Speaker 1: with two hundred and twenty five. He got on a
Speaker 1: bunch of them with under got one guy? Ohbody else
Speaker 1: that year I would I would say doing Songstone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm that's a good one. I am a big fan.
Speaker 1: This guy has been doing it all years, starting from
Speaker 1: really i'd say Game two, especially his emergence has really
Speaker 1: got You got to capitalize over what's over here. You
Speaker 1: have to capitalize off of the fact that this guy,
Speaker 1: Michael Plarston's is bringing the attention. And it's easier said
Speaker 1: than done, but he's doing it, and he's doing it consistently.
Speaker 1: Eight sacks, eight sacks, second on the team. And if
Speaker 1: you think about this, and it's what I wrote last Friday,
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys lost Randy Gregory, it was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what are we gonna do? A defensive end?
Speaker 1: Right and Armstrong got the opportunity. His eight sacks are
Speaker 1: more than Randy Gregory ever had in a single season. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I think Gregory's high was six, So he's got eight
Speaker 1: and I believe he has He's a couple of his
Speaker 1: plays have led two touchdowns. He scored a touchdown, right,
Speaker 1: and they blocked the punt. If I'm not he's blocked
Speaker 1: a punt and a field goal. Wow, all right, Nate
Speaker 1: in Frisco has chimed in all he's got he's got something,
Speaker 1: he's got My guy. This is the guy that I
Speaker 1: was gonna go with tonight, Okay, and now I probably
Speaker 1: will go with it. It's an offensive player. Who's an
Speaker 1: offensive player? Can you think who he might be suggesting?
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson, No, he's my guy, Jake Ferguson, he's here.
Speaker 1: He's your No, No, the guy that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the text as well. I'm looking. Oh, yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at who. N Yeah, you're too, you're looking yeah, Noah
Speaker 1: Brown Yeah with three exclamation points. Mickey's not. Mickey's not. Oh,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a conversation after the show when Nate
Speaker 1: comes in here. Nate, you need to talk with Mickey.
Speaker 1: Here's what I saw before we go out. But here's
Speaker 1: what I saw, and I talked about this yesterday. When
Speaker 1: you have a game like we had and these blow
Speaker 1: blowout games we've had, it's easy to stick with your
Speaker 1: game plan and you could practice that, but we do
Speaker 1: that out here, but then they can do it in
Speaker 1: real time in the game. I think those opportunities where
Speaker 1: you need to try your deep game, your deep passing game,
Speaker 1: should be worked on during these moments. And the only
Speaker 1: time I starts going deep was against was too Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a decent pass, but the dB
Speaker 1: would not let him go forward. So you have the PI,
Speaker 1: but we need to work on that. Especially we're bringing
Speaker 1: back Washington, right we're bringing him into the game. We
Speaker 1: need to start practicing on our deep passes because as
Speaker 1: we get closer to the playoffs, and in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna sit down on our routes, just
Speaker 1: like they've been doing the last show. All you people
Speaker 1: out there that keep harping on this, please listen to
Speaker 1: Everson Walls. Somebody asked me the other day, so the
Speaker 1: Cowboys a running offense, and I'm going, yeah, they're running
Speaker 1: the ball well, but they're gonna throw it too. And
Speaker 1: then somebody says, is Dak being too aggressive, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: I want my quarterback aggressive. I got to get the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. And I think he's like, damn
Speaker 1: the percentages and all of that. You know, there's some
Speaker 1: plays that he needs to try it because he knows
Speaker 1: he has the ability to do it right, the luxury
Speaker 1: to do it with this defense. I wouldn't do it
Speaker 1: early in the second first quarter and the second quarter,
Speaker 1: but there I would take a lot more chances, not
Speaker 1: without putting my defense in bad situations, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to depend on them throughout the entire And then the
Speaker 1: follow up was, yeah, but he's got all these interceptions.
Speaker 1: So I looked, and I know these guys have played
Speaker 1: more games than he has this year. He's got seven picks.
Speaker 1: Patrick mccolmes eight interceptions, Joe Burrow eight interceptions, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: eleven interceptions, Aaron Rodgers nine interceptions. So if you're a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get intercepted at some point, right, But you
Speaker 1: gotta take those throws to keep people from compacting the field.
Speaker 1: You can't let them compact the field defensively, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: They're not going to throw it over my head, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play up tight. We'll see. When you have
Speaker 1: a forty point game, that's when you want to take
Speaker 1: those chances. But they still have to be calculated chances.
Speaker 1: But I didn't understand those guys have had more pass attempts, yes,
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. And Dak has to have too
Speaker 1: many interceptions. But as far as I'm concerned, those are
Speaker 1: interceptions that how they are are covered up a lot
Speaker 1: by the fact that we have this defense. This defense
Speaker 1: is not the San Francisco defense. I don't care about
Speaker 1: that crap on. However they do their thing. All I
Speaker 1: know is this our defense can stop any drive anywhere,
Speaker 1: at any time given the right situation. And having said that,
Speaker 1: the late entry on the Unsung Hero, Duran Bland played
Speaker 1: in a significant role as the slot corner after Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: because you just don't find those guys, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: grown on trees. Yeah, and young guy, young rookie, young
Speaker 1: young man. I was gonna say freshman who was at
Speaker 1: Sacramento State just over a year ago. I finished up
Speaker 1: at Presdo State. He finished up at Presdos last year,
Speaker 1: but he was at Sacramento State before that. All Right,
Speaker 1: that does it for this addition, tain mix Shots Thanks
Speaker 1: to our loyal listener Nate in Frisco, and we will
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