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Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast, Three Wise Men Come do another. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: around the NFL Podcast, I'm Dan nanzas you joined in

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Speaker 1: a virtual room build with sapiros Mark Sessler, Greg rosendal. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think and I'll have to double check the schedule.

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Speaker 1: The night take Week fifteen is over. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: And of course we have, um, you know, a nice

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the NFL slogan and biggest season ever,

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Speaker 1: and uh, football was family. But then I was thinking about,

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Speaker 1: The football is family? Like well, I mean it kind

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Speaker 1: of became family tonight. Well, we were all at the

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Speaker 1: Dan was with his in laws because he's hit a

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Speaker 1: I was at the first game, in the last game

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Speaker 1: UM at Sophi Stadium, and I was looking around for

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Speaker 1: you Mark and your second family. You're like six ft

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Speaker 1: one amazon blonde wife and your triplets that you have

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of maneuvering. Den. Well you were you

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Speaker 1: you know you Colton and Simone had to come a

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Speaker 1: Luke Luke early. And I could feel like this inner

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Speaker 1: Mark seemed to be feeling like he had been owned

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Speaker 1: by by corporation. The Rams have one. I think both

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Speaker 1: So you know, it is a long week. It is

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Speaker 1: of the time outs. It's a basic game plan that

428
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: we've been hearing forever that maybe is not as popular anymore.

429
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: The only reason I disagreed with it, Greg was the

430
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Speaker 1: Nick Mullins. I know he's was just on the practice

431
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: squad and has barely played in a year, but he

432
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: was so smart the way he played, and he wasn't

433
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: taking crazy risks, and I kind of trusted him in

434
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: that spot to either make the play or not make

435
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: a hideous mistake, and they just didn't give him the

436
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: shot there. I I would have liked to seen it.

437
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: But I also didn't have a problem with the play

438
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: because it was third and three, because they had gained

439
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: seven yards on the on the last two runs, you know, like,

440
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: and they were giving it to their best player. If

441
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: it was third and six, they would have thrown it.

442
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: It is a shame because Nick Mullins is the master

443
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: of the four to five yard throw. I mean, that's

444
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: what he did the whole night. He played within himself.

445
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: You said it, you know, until he really needed to

446
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: play out, like on that fourth down. Like he had

447
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: a really clean, nice game, and yeah, if you had

448
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: done some sort of play action or something where he

449
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: has a couple of options quick, I would have trusted

450
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: him to do it. But the reason they got back

451
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: in that game wasn't Nick Mullins. It was Nick Chubb

452
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: going over left tackle where Joel Betonio was playing out

453
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: of position on those sweeps and stuff like. Those were

454
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: the big plays, and so they went back to what

455
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: had been working and we got them seven yards on

456
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: the two previous place. So I I didn't have a

457
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: huge problem I just think it didn't work on that play,

458
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: and that was that was also so unfortunate because at

459
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: that point when they interset to the ball, and in

460
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: Mark's first words, he said to me at the Rams

461
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: game today, we're just like I'm broken. I you know,

462
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get back to football

463
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: after yesterday. I felt so so bad, so said, But

464
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: I get it because it was an inspiring game. The

465
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: Raiders did not deserve to win it. They went out

466
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: of their way to freaking gag it. I mean that

467
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: game should have been over so many times earlier. Car fumbles,

468
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good play. J Ok has been

469
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: amazing for Cleveland. Just what a player I've been using

470
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: meaning to say like he is a home run, uh

471
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: draft pick. But they they're dropping it mostly wasn't car,

472
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: but they're dropping passes. They're making all these mistakes. And

473
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: then and he fumbles the ball, they give up the

474
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: lead to Mullins. Then he throws the interception and you

475
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: only have to get one first down to win it.

476
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: At that place, at that point, Cleveland was on fire,

477
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: like Shook was killing himself that he didn't go to

478
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: that game down the street. Uh. And then a few

479
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: minutes later, he was like, yep, that's why I didn't go.

480
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, Like I mean, I like

481
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: j OK number one I think is um I know

482
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: we missed some games and that kind of took some

483
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: of the heat off of his uh you know, Q rating,

484
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: but like what a player he has been. Um, I

485
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: this game hurt me to the point where today is

486
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: not is totally surreal. What happened after it is totally surreal.

487
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: It's like, how quickly can I get an uber that

488
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: I ordered to drive off the I TN where is

489
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: the female assassin? Like it's over? Like you feel like,

490
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing, the North schedule, and

491
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to hear about it, Like

492
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. All they gotta do is go win

493
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: their last two games in the North, which is what

494
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Steelers Steelers Bengals. Even if they lose to the Packers,

495
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: if they if they win those even if they lose

496
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: to the Packers this week, if they win those two

497
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: division games, I think that's doable. I think they've shown

498
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: some fight these last two weeks. I do a fight,

499
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: they do a fight. But that's just simply to set

500
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: me up to get pulled back in because I I

501
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: already know everyone's like they're gonna get romped by the Packers,

502
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: will probably beat the Packers, and then I will be

503
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: so far pulled back into this um anti matrix just

504
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: hit me with a bow and arrow. So can we

505
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: just mark and you know, we all and I know

506
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: the listeners do appreciate your fandom and how passionate you

507
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: are and how you you live and die typically die

508
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: with the Browns. But can we just dispense with the

509
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: charade in future seasons about when you go through those

510
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: things where you don't care about the team anymore and

511
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: you don't really it doesn't matter because you've been down

512
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: on this team all year and now you're saying your

513
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: life is basically up in flames because they lost last

514
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: night to to fall to seven and seven. I and

515
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm all for your passionate, I'm just saying,

516
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: just this is your This is the one of the

517
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: most important things in your life. This football team. We

518
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: know it. You don't have to tell us that it's

519
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: not true, because we know it, and you hear it

520
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: in your voice right now. It is. It is important

521
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: to me, Um, I have multiple defense mechanisms up. Obviously, Um,

522
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: there there are a charade to you who listens to this,

523
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: but to me, they aren't like they do. That was

524
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: to now now we're getting to it. They they had

525
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: been up and they came out like they came all

526
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: the way down for that Mullins game, like when they entered,

527
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: especially by the time they intercepted that pass and had

528
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: the ball, they were down. The walls had been on

529
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: fire and then suddenly the enemy. Well, that game hurt

530
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: me because like the idea that Nick Mullins, who I've

531
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: always kind of loved Nick Mullins to be honest, Um,

532
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: the idea that he would pull it off, and he

533
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: came so close. It almost became one of my favorite

534
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: Brown's wins of all time. Like I'm talking top three,

535
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: top four, top five, and it turned into Satan's baby

536
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: inside of my mouth. Gross. All Right, we better stop

537
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: talking about this game. It's getting a little weird. Um, Raiders.

538
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Raiders get drew locked this week, They're not. They're probably

539
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna lose, and the Browns, Yeah, the probably lose at

540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: Green Bay on Christmas, probably, but you never know. In

541
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: the season, don't even know who's gonna be playing. Don

542
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: Madikowski could be quarterback for the Packers by Christmas. Who knows,

543
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: So don't assume anything, but yes, Greg is right. Um,

544
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: they have two division games against teams that are no

545
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: better or no worse than them, the Browns to wrap

546
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: the season. Um. I thought it was so sweet Mark

547
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: when Gregg complimented your rookie linebacker and you went, thank

548
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: you for saying that, because you know what you know,

549
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Greg and I have talked about that previously. It's just like,

550
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody else that would respond to a

551
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: football compliment like that, Like it was personally like somebody

552
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: had complimented you about something you had done. Well, it

553
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: matters to me that Greg sees what I feel I've

554
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: been seeing and like we've talked about it's good j

555
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: okay before and we agree, let's let's take a break

556
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring in a special guest to talk

557
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Eagles Washington. And there he is. You know he is, Well,

558
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: you don't because I haven't announced it yet, but maybe

559
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: when the podcast is out, you're gonna see it in

560
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: the little summary. Maybe Ricky gives him the headline the

561
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: name of the show. Maybe he's in that. I think

562
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: he deserves it because I think he's a big Yeah,

563
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: he is the great John Gonzalez. Gonzo, what's that baby? Gentlemen,

564
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: good to see you. What's up? Man? How are you you?

565
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: You performed? We are lying on you so much. Eagles Washington.

566
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: You know game here because you know we were at

567
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: another game, so you could see anything happened. The dictionary

568
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: definition of out of pocket uh for Washington Eagles. So

569
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: let's hit the highlight and get into it with Gonzo.

570
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: The native Philadelphia Hurts again is rolling. He's looking, Hey,

571
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: here's firing touch Hey gonna to Greg Ward who spun

572
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: around and what it was? Chucked? Ah? The great Merrill

573
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Reese with the call. Jalen Hurts was back in the

574
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: lineup and he said, darn mean shoo. That's a nice story.

575
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: But I'm that guy. I'm that kid. He ran for

576
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: two touchdowns through for another. Eagles come from behind to

577
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: beat the COVID nineteen ravage Washington football teams seven to seventeen. Uh.

578
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: Eagles moved to seven and seven. They are alive and

579
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: well in the playoff race. Washington now fading at six

580
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: and eight. Gonzo, you watched this from Um Gonzalez manor

581
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: with perhaps your lovely wife Connie Fox the tiny box.

582
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: What were your takeaways, uh from this? I think anytime

583
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: you can beat a quarterback that I hadn't heard of

584
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: before he started on a Tuesday great NFC East really

585
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: really up there with all of the other Tuesday night

586
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: games that they played. The last time they played a

587
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: Tuesday night game, Rosie tweeted at me about this, they

588
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: lost to Joe Webb after a blizzard. Uh, and the

589
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: then governor, Governor Rendell had called everybody wusses for not

590
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: playing the game, which then launched a book called Nation

591
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: of Wusses. So this Tuesday night game greater than symbol

592
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: that Tuesday night game. This was better. This was better

593
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: than the night when um Michael Vick's m v P

594
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Dreams went to die. Come on, your Eagles are seven

595
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: and seven. This is a frisky, little, frisky little outfit here.

596
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Ganza at least got to be getting behind this this team,

597
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: because absolutely what was the wreck? They were like two

598
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and five and now they're seven and seven and they're

599
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: maybe the best running team in the league. That you

600
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: would think that's a team that the the Eagles could

601
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: get behind, that Philly could get behind. I'm so something

602
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: that I've learned through um years of watching this team

603
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: is never believe. Like it's with the exception of the

604
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: year that they won the Super Bowl and we were

605
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: all there, Uh, never believed. And specifically, like you said

606
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: that they are first each team who have they beaten

607
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: that's any good? The Saints is their best win. And

608
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: if they could end up with ten wins this season,

609
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: because they've got, you know, the three division games left,

610
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: and there's a chance that who knows, the Cowboys sit

611
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: their starters in that last game, but then they'll have

612
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: ten wins, nine of which are largely hollow, and then

613
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: the other one is the Saints. So I don't know.

614
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how frisky this. Do you trust them

615
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: even if they make the playoffs? I don't, I'd ask

616
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: you this. I mean, I don't. I'm not sure any

617
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: team is good in the NFL this season. But secondly,

618
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: like they did go through a metamorphosis where they said

619
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run the ball at everyone, and and

620
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: tonight again against this Washington defense that I know there

621
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: they were covid stricken um but they did get some

622
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: guys back along the defensive line. Before this game, Philly

623
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: still ran for two thirty eight yards. It's like, we're

624
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna do this every week. They did it again. It's like,

625
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: you gotta give him a little credit for the fact

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: that this is their identity. They lean into it and

627
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: it works. It's working, Gonzo. I've got a little history.

628
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Maybe this will provide some perspective and maybe you will

629
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: start to get a little more exciting. I think he's

630
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: just nonplus because he was he was like watching us

631
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: talk about the Browns game. He was like, let's get

632
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: on with it. He's like, I've got something yards rushing.

633
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: They became the first team with a hundred and seventy

634
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: five plus yards on the ground and seven consecutive games

635
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: since wait for it, the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears.

636
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Now that Bears team was known obviously for its great defense,

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: but obviously they did some things right offensively as well. Now, well,

638
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me, Gonzo, I guess is that because

639
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Speaker 1: the opponents have been so bad, you can't put too

640
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Speaker 1: much into the running game. But the fact that they

641
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: imposed their will upon opponents week after week and they

642
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: have this exciting kid behind center that makes people miss

643
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: and could throw the ball a little bit too. I mean,

644
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: this is more fun than last year's Eagles team, right,

645
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, everything's relative more fun than last year's Eagles

646
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: team is a low bar. Look, the running game has

647
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: been fun. You're absolutely right about that. And this is

648
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: something that early in the season was driving Eagles fans

649
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: insane because they weren't running the ball as much and

650
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: everybody was clamoring for them to run the ball. And

651
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, they start running the ball

652
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: and they have some success. So that parts to the

653
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: good I'm all for that. The part about the exciting

654
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: kid under center, Dan, you just revealed how not Philadelphia

655
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: and you are because that the jury is still out

656
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: on that one and that Gardner Minshew game, nobody looked

657
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: two things that Philadelphia loves run the ball and the

658
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. So as long as there there is a

659
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback existing, somebody somewhere in Philadelphia and frankly several someones,

660
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: lots of someone's will be clamoring for that guy to

661
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. So yeah, like Jillen tonight was, he

662
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: was good the early like early in the game, he

663
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: made some bad decisions which he's wont to do. There

664
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Speaker 1: were turnovers that led to those first ten Washington points

665
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: and after that he settled down and they got going. Um.

666
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Speaker 1: But also I said, they beat a guy who what

667
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: was he doing on Thursday before they signed him on?

668
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: He was on the Patriots practice squad, Garret Gilbert? But

669
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: you know he doesn't play defense. They put they put

670
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: up five hundred yards of offense against a Washington team

671
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: that's been pretty good. And I know they were missing

672
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: some players, but they got most of them on my

673
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: Gilbert Godfried callbacks, you know the Godfried callack like, so, gonza,

674
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Speaker 1: what's the vibe at the house? Are you guys like

675
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: just ain't super? Is there a lot of negging going on,

676
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: a lot of like negative energy about around the Viking

677
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: or the Eagles? Are you excited about what You're more

678
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: still emotional about the Browns conversation you got. I'm trying

679
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: to find out what what the vibe is where you're

680
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you seem to be coming in from a

681
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: bit of a a little bit of a down said

682
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: to you take you take a win anytime you can

683
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: get a one. Let's put it this season has been

684
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: consistently uh, results oriented in terms of feelings. So after

685
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Giants loss, they're the worst team in the NFL. They're

686
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And after the Jets win, sorry, Danny

687
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: ramovs uh, you know what, book your tickets. You're coming

688
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: out to l A because maybe this team could go

689
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: on a run there or maybe they're they're frisky, like

690
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: Rosie said, so at seven and seven, it's like it's

691
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: been every single weekend has been a roller coaster. I

692
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: mean even going back to uh the Falcons game, which

693
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: is their their first game of the season, which they won,

694
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: and we thought, okay, maybe there's maybe there's a little

695
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: something to this team. Ultimately, it's hard for me though,

696
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: to like really believe in the Eagles because there's just

697
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: been so much conditioning over the years. Like with the

698
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: exception of one year, it usually turns out terribly. Um

699
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: and people should also know it's past nine pm on

700
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: the West Coast right now, so it's John's bedtime as well.

701
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: Just a bad I think, so if he seems a

702
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: little like low key that that plays in as well.

703
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: Look I'm up and energized for you guys. I had

704
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: a full day of doing stuff and working and hanging

705
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: out with Connie Nightcap. You've got You've got your sports

706
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: illustrated podcast starting soon, don't you? Mid January? Yeah. So,

707
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Gonzo and I did a cross country

708
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: trip from well across half the country from l A

709
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: to Houston for a super Bowl and he stayed up

710
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: quite late many of those nights, and we had adventures

711
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: that we can't speak of here on the show. So

712
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: I love that all of a sudden, I'm being painted

713
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: as old man Gonzo, who, well, you'd like to take

714
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: We've been there, We've We've done weekend trips with you.

715
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Speaker 1: You're a guy that likes to get his seventeen hours.

716
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh I love a nap. I mean, who doesn't like

717
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: a nap? And nap is it can be uh really rejuvenating.

718
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Um before we let you go? And this is this

719
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: is kind of a we're like overarching question and I

720
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: feel it would be a good like profile story, but

721
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: it's probably already been written so doesn't matter. But you

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00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: mentioned it that why why does Philadelphia love the backup? Why?

723
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Speaker 1: Why don't Why are they always looking past the guy

724
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: that is probably the guy to the guy that probably

725
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: isn't the guy, but hypothetically could why what is the

726
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: psychology behind that? For the city. It's a sickness. We

727
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: all have it, We've all caught it. It's a quarterback

728
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: covid for us, going back to Randall Cunningham with Jim

729
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: McMahon right up through basically every backup that was ever

730
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: a backup for McNabb. I mean, like the greatest quarterback

731
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: in in franchise history, they wanted to replace him the

732
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: entire time. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think I think it's part of, um,

734
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: the lack of success. Like again, I keep saying that

735
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: the one season where they won the Super Bowl, but

736
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: they wanted with the backup quarterback. So, um, maybe we're

737
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: onto something, maybe we knew. Maybe it's like a lack

738
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: of self cont inner self confidence. I don't know, civics,

739
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: civic wide before before you guys cut me loose though,

740
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: um is, does Rosie always make those faces as you

741
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: guys are as you other two are talking? Oh yeah,

742
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: that's the approving faces, the resting Greg face. Don't reading

743
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: that I'm because I'm making I'm I'm making conversation with

744
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: everybody here and all I see is a pained look

745
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: on Rosie space. There's a big there's a lot of smiles.

746
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot of smiles personally, and like I start

747
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: to then I start to rail on it verbally. I think,

748
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: you know what I am pained is because you're because

749
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: you're just like dismissing. Jalen Hurt says, I like, go

750
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: over and look and look, say, oh, Reagor had a

751
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: thirty four yard or I haven't watched this game at

752
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: devote Smith got he has forty five seven for one

753
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: thirty five, Like I always wanted to watch an athletic quarterback,

754
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts is one of the best running quarterbacks

755
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: uh in the NFL. And he's a second year starter,

756
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: like a second round pick, Like what more? What more

757
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: do these people want? And you get all excited about

758
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Gardnerment was like yeah, yeah, Scot, you get all excited

759
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: about Gardner Mint floating a couple of seven yard passes

760
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: that people run with after the catch, you cannot win.

761
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Greg is coming at you with a minor nuclear bomb

762
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna land right in the middle of your head. Uh,

763
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Dallas Gott it looked good. Jalen Hurts made a couple

764
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: of really nice throws, one of which was to Greg Ward.

765
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I like, I honestly, I was like, my god, I

766
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: forgot about Greg Ward. He's still on the team for

767
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown, so that was good. How are you happy

768
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: now that he's saying these things? Greg's just make you happy?

769
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: Will you sleep tonight? But Greg, I'm honestly of like Philadelphia, Uh,

770
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Philadelphians who have watched every Eagles game this year. Despite

771
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: the way that you're interpreting this, I'm probably higher on

772
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts the most. So that tells you where everybody

773
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: else's rights are proving grunts and noises from him. You

774
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: can find it now formally of the Wringer. Now he's

775
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: over at s I. He's got a podcast that's coming out.

776
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: He's storyteller. Make sure you fall him on Twitter at

777
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: John Gonzalez. Yeah, you know who it is. It's Gonzo.

778
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: John Ron Gonzola Sport March twelve nine is an American

779
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: sports writer who was married NFL media broadcaster Colley Wolf. John,

780
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: who was a Pisces, resides in Los Angeles with his

781
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: wife and two dogs. Also, I look forward to my

782
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: mentions being full of that tomorrow. That bit still wan't die.

783
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: So thank you, and I also we all want to

784
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: thank you. In the time where you never feel like

785
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: you could trust anything anymore, things are always changing underneath

786
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: our feet. We never have to change that drop, but

787
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: always all the bio information is exactly the same as

788
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: it was five years ago. We should actually we should

789
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: add that he got the J and J shot because

790
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: we are brothers and the J and J and we've

791
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: been through this adversity together. I feel like that's like

792
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: the next the next most defining aspected guns of life.

793
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, it's It's depressingly true, Dan,

794
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: none of the information has changed. You're right, we like

795
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: we can care. Everything is exactly the same, all right, buddy.

796
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: Thank you for staying up and doing the with us.

797
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: We really didn't need, did need the help, and you

798
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: delivered it. Buddy. We'll see you soon, all right, Love

799
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: you guys. There goes Joan Joanni Gonzalez. Love that guy.

800
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: We have one more game to hit. Uh. It wasn't

801
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: the best game of the week. In fact, it might

802
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: have been the warst game of the year on the

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00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: primetime slate. We're gonna do it. Anyway, hit it Ricky

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00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Pats j K hands caught touch down justin Jefferson. That's

805
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: left to the end zone. It's such a twelve yard touchdown.

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00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Hits number eight this season four j J Man, Paul Allen,

807
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: you can make anything sing. Even that game seventeen nine.

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00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: The Vikings won, uh to keep their postseason hopes alive.

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: Greg and I locked it up. That's a good job

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00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: by us. But it was a game. First of all,

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Speaker 1: the Bears just a total mess. Uh. Five personal vouls

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: anyone by the head coach. I could have swerved, but frowns.

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00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Late in the second quarter, I thought that Matt Maggie

814
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: was leaving the stadium the handcuffs. I guy was certain

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00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: he was going to inflict bodily harm on someone and

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00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: run a foul of the law. That did not happen,

817
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: at least not that I know of. But ultimately, the

818
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Bears as an operation are just as Mark we called them,

819
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: and perhaps a floating course. So they are now four

820
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: and ten, uh, and they are just waiting to get

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Speaker 1: to the finish line. Now the Vikings, Greg, this theme

822
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: is interesting, UH every week except for this week when

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00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: they played the Bears. So the Bears obviously have some

824
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: type of magical power. I thought taken out of this

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: game as someone who has kind of rooted for the

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Speaker 1: Vikings and has enjoyed the Vikings this season, who was

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Speaker 1: a little disturbing for Kirk Cousins to have a second

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Speaker 1: Dog game in a row in December and finished with

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Speaker 1: eighty seven yards passing a career low against the Chicago

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Speaker 1: defense missing so many players uh that they were calling

831
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Speaker 1: up guys from the practice squad to play defense. Their

832
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: entire defensive backfield was on the COVID list, are injured,

833
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: and yet Cousins could do nothing And it doesn't seem

834
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to bode well for the Vikings offense, or am I

835
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: putting too much into it? Because the Vikings week the

836
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: week completely reboot themselves, right like next week they have

837
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: the Rams who are going to be on a short

838
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: week and you can almost see Cousins it'll be indoors,

839
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, throwing for three thirty again. And yet I

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00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: can't like this these this last month. It's really if

841
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: you look at his season, it peaked about mid season

842
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: and and personally he's been a little on the decline since,

843
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: but this was outrageous. He dropped back to past twenty

844
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Speaker 1: eight times. They average two point two yards per play,

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Speaker 1: and like Zimmer had no confidence in him by the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, But who could blame him? And

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00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: what did it matter because his defense wasn't given up

848
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: any points. It It was just kind of crazy crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was partly his interior offensive line, which has been

850
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: a problem all year. It's partly Adam dealing being out.

851
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: But he just gets in those modes, like when he

852
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: threw here the ball out of bounds on the hail

853
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Mary and to end the first half because he didn't

854
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: want to mess up his touchdown to interception ratio. I thought, like,

855
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: that's a that's why people don't like Kirk Cousins that play,

856
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: because that's what he did. He didn't want to mess

857
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: up the TV to the interception race. You know who

858
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: tweet all about that former quarterbacks. Former quarterbacks are the

859
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: ones saying that, Like everyone's saying they'll move there when

860
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't want to do that, and like Tom Brady

861
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: would do the same thing on some level. Two, I

862
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: believe that did you throw underneath, but he's great to

863
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: back it up. Son. You can throw underneath and then

864
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: they get you know, forty one yards and get tackled

865
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: at the fourteen and the half's over anyway, so the

866
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: defense doesn't care. That would have been the move if

867
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: he was really looking out for his stats. Yeah, I

868
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: don't know. That's yeah, I like it. I like the theory,

869
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: though You're You're probably right. No one play over ten

870
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: yards in the whole game by their passing game. I

871
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know that. Like I know, I know that. Um,

872
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Bears are a thing of the past

873
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: at this point and we don't need to focus too

874
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: much on them. But like you said, Dan, to have

875
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: your entire secondary wiped away by COVID, I mean this

876
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: team was all of all of these games happened because

877
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: these teams were wiped out by the coronavirus slash omnikrown. Um,

878
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I get it. But I mean the Bears defense, I thought,

879
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: put forward like they put forth an incredible effort in

880
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: this game. They really did. I mean, it's like, um

881
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: Acheam Hicks was all over the place. I mean just

882
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: it's it's lost in the shuffle. But the their offense

883
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: finished the game with three drives um that ended on downs,

884
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: and they had a terrible missfield goal in this game.

885
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: They had a terrible bumble by the quarterback. I mean,

886
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: there had a couple of turnovers all over the place.

887
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: It's like they allowed the Vikings just to continue to

888
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: pound on them. When had they gotten a even vaguely

889
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: vaguely competent performance by the offense, they would have been

890
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: fine with what the defense didn't score. They didn't score.

891
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: They didn't score, I don't care. It's so that's fine.

892
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: But they moved the ball. But it was like, and

893
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're coaching staff also impacted. So Matt

894
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Naggi is calling the plays again. Bill Lazer is out

895
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: of the picture. And yeah, they they out threw in

896
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: terms of passing to fifty five to sixty one. They

897
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: out gained Minnesota three seventy two one ninety three. UM.

898
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: And they just had so many mistakes and and some

899
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, bad luck with certain things, getting feet down

900
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: in the end zone, bobbles, things like that. UM. But

901
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: when you just added all together the whole stew you know,

902
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: there are like fifty thousand Bears fans that went to

903
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: that game, and they were just subjected to just continual

904
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: disappointment possession after possession. So, yeah, the Bears are a

905
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: mess that the Vikings are the relevant team here. But

906
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I just think as I just don't know how much

907
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: longer the Vikings will be relevant because I don't know

908
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: if I buy Cousins snapping out of this slump. This

909
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: this has been going on for a while now. It's

910
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: been a little bit under the radar because he keeps

911
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: throwing two touchdowns every game, and so that keeps fantasy

912
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: owners uh satisfied, and they're winning more than than they're

913
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: losing the last month or two. But they are not

914
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: the same offense and he is not the same quarterback.

915
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: And I think that to me is simplified as it

916
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: may seem. Was the big thing that jumped out to me,

917
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: like I'm not the Viking. The Vikings have been very

918
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: entertaining an interest in I think they could snap back.

919
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: It would be very typical of them. They have the

920
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: Rams and the Packers the next two weeks to at

921
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: least win one of those, but get to get get

922
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: to Week eighteen with like a little bit of hope

923
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: and then lose to the Bears in the rematch. That

924
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: that feels like the way this like, let's these are

925
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: two teams that are part of our previous existence. They

926
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: do not exist right now, Mark, get him, buddy, I'm

927
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: forking both of them. They're both out. I mean, we

928
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: already forked the Bears back into this could have working

929
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings right now. I'm forking the Vikings right now.

930
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: Coming after that Rounds game, these teams were both they

931
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: had the bulls eye on them for at Sessler Nation.

932
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: Now this was that this was the worst primetime game.

933
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: I think I had a weird memory. Um back in

934
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: like two thousand and five or two thousand and six,

935
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: when I lived in l A. Knew nobody. UM fell

936
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: into relations with this one UM young starlet type girl

937
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: that was forget about it, I mean, and then it

938
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: went start. She was a successful actress, had that vibe

939
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: to her. I'm just saying back then, and the whole

940
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: thing ended. And it was a two or three week

941
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: scenario that ended UM in a bar fight in Culver City.

942
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna leave it right there. But like

943
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: I spent the next two weeks, you know, it was

944
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: the football season. I'm watching football and it was just

945
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: like nothing had any meaning. And that's how I felt

946
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: about this Vikings Bears game watching it. It had zero meaning.

947
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: My heart had been broken earlier in the day, Ricky,

948
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: can you jump in a second? Nothing mattered on any

949
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: let's go on with Mark nothing. Yeah it was. I

950
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: feel like we should probably just dropped the show. I'm

951
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: just saying, don't try to come at me. Yeah, the

952
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Bears Vikings game that is now, You're right, we don't

953
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: need to spend a lot of time on this more

954
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: after that and stuff like Starlet's leaving you at a

955
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: bar fight, and there's a lot that we need to

956
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: unpack as like a family here. So I feel like

957
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: we should just like hit the outro music and Vicky

958
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: just like we gotta end this. This is already tricks,

959
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: like we gotta we gotta plane to catch in the morning.

960
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm getting up at three forty so

961
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting up in like six four hours. More games,

962
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. That's how we do it, all right. So

963
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: Week fifteen is in the rear view. Mark is gonna

964
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: be okay. I know some people might be alarmed a

965
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he's fine. Today's show, He's gonna be fine.

966
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: And he's got he's got three games left with his

967
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, uh and they have a chance still to

968
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: win a division makes the noise. They're not like the

969
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Vikings or the Bears. They're not dead. They're alive. They'll

970
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: tell you that. Just just wait, just wait for Christmas

971
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: morning when Mr cecler unwraps a Brown's game with his family.

972
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: Good luck, Let's go brown We're all Browns fans. Did

973
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: he really need to put the Browns on Christmas? Rod?

974
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: You know yet? We got to pick up the boys, guys.

975
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: We gotta take your eye anyway. So this is our

976
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: obviously functions as are. It's a little different than a

977
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: regular Tuesday episode, but that's what it is. Thursday, you'll

978
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: get the preview of week sixteen, and then we'll be

979
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: back Sunday night, which is the day after Christmas, recapping

980
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: everything in Week sixteen. Let's just cross our fingers because

981
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: things just seem to get worse and worse because this

982
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: virus is just so contagious that I just don't know.

983
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I I worry, knock on wood here, I worry how

984
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: we're going to finish the season, even with the different protocols. Well,

985
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: hopefully things get calmed down and we get a normal

986
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: week of football next week. But there's a lot of

987
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: indecision in the world. But we can tell you or

988
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we don't know right now,

989
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: we can tell you we will be here. There could

990
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: be sixteen games next week, there could be zero games

991
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: next week. The Around the NFL podcast will be here

992
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: for you. Unless you know other things dictate that we're

993
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: not here. It's all up in here. We will we

994
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: will be here. You can't imagine here until they tell

995
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: us hit the street, hit the bricks. All right, that's it.

996
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: I am sorry for us stepping on the godfree joke.

997
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: You know, um a bad habit of mine personal growth.

998
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I want to improve on that. But everyone could have

999
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: been a great, great call back, to be honest with you,

1000
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: if if we went back to the replay, I might

1001
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: have kind of come in off the turn buckle on it.

1002
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: And maybe what I wanted you to do is like

1003
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: step out of the way so the Gottfried elbow drop

1004
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: could land. So that's not something you have to do either.

1005
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: So it's just maybe one of those things where we

1006
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: both could have been a little bit more delicate with it,

1007
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: and we just we're used to being in the studio.

1008
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: We're used to being together in the studio. By now

1009
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: that we're um, we're back to like working out the Kings.

1010
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: Look at you too? How cute this is? So? Who's

1011
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: the starlet? Kirsten Dunns, a young Dominique Swain? Who are

1012
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: we talking here? I mean not there was no actual,

1013
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, professional attachment to that now, but like if

1014
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: you had to compare her to someone like Molly Ringwald,

1015
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: Christina Molly Ringwald throwing the names out, we gotta go.

1016
00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: We got maybe a young Bardo. Yeah wait, no, Mark,

1017
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: who was that actress from from your time? My time?

1018
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: She was really vague and uh Betty David, you know

1019
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: in like the twenties in the What does that mean?

1020
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: What do you win? Oh? Yeah she was. She was

1021
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: good when they made the transition to the talkies, right yeah, yeah, yeah,

1022
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: when they went silent film to color not color, no, god, no,

1023
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: not color. When they yeah yeah, right, that's who you're

1024
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: really saying. You're old, Mark, But I think you look

1025
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: great for your Well that's fine, I'm not I won't respond.

1026
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: Al Right, we are going down. You get what you're

1027
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: trying to do. Dan Anon signing off for Quiet Storm,

1028
00:54:39,600 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: The Old Boss Gonzo Ricky Hollywood Hills, The s