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Speaker 1: Happy holidays everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast, the Welcome to Miami Bien then

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Speaker 1: Nedasami Ami edition, as we preview Sunday's game against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins at hard Rock Stadium. Coming up, you'll hear

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Speaker 1: from AJ Green, who made an official this week he

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Speaker 1: will not play a single snap in twenty nineteen. Aj

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Speaker 1: discusses his injury, his contract, and his future. In my

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Speaker 1: weekly midweek visit with Dave Lapham will discuss why he

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Speaker 1: would have loved to block for Joe Mixon, his admiration

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Speaker 1: for Dolphins qb Ryan Fitzpatrick, and we'll discuss the options

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Speaker 1: the Bengals will have if they wind up with a

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Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. Finally, and this week's

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Speaker 1: Know the Faux segment, we'll talk to Cameron Wolf, who

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Speaker 1: covers the Dolphins for ESPN. He's had a challenging job

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Speaker 1: just from bring names and faces this year, since the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins have used the most players of any team in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. All of that is straight ahead, but first,

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Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest

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Speaker 1: or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since a good nugget.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I try to do before every

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Speaker 1: game that I broadcast is try to find some good

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Speaker 1: nuggets of information about the players and coaches to work in.

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Speaker 1: When appropriate, it might be an anecdote, an unusual stat

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Speaker 1: maybe a funny quote, little things that I hope make

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Speaker 1: I might bring up the fact that Dolphins quarterback Ryan

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Speaker 1: a great line about it in the offseason. He blames

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Speaker 1: birthday cakes. Now let's get to football. This week, Geno

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Speaker 1: that second most in Bengals history behind Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: Anthony Muno's who made it eleven times. AJ Green made

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Speaker 1: it in each of his first seven seasons before the

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Speaker 1: in the first training camp practice aj saw a foot

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Speaker 1: and confirmed that, you know, just looking into my future,

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Speaker 1: no lingering effect on that? Everything will be fine. So

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Speaker 1: have you decided you won't play this year? Though? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Just and he's like, it's best for me to just

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Speaker 1: this point regarding your future that I need to show

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Speaker 1: anybody anything. Everybody know what I can do when I'm

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Speaker 1: So um, that's for pushing me. Um. So what is

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Speaker 1: Like I said, my thing is not right now is

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Speaker 1: It's also you know, it's always always I wanted to

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Speaker 1: I got the utmost respect. He did everything the right way.

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Speaker 1: He'd been playing out his mind, UM, and you know

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Speaker 1: But also I understand the value that I bring to

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Speaker 1: I was just swallowing up a little bit. UM. For me,

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Speaker 1: But we've been here for the last nine years, did

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Speaker 1: get a deal gunning. But like I said, I'm prepared

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Speaker 1: It's replaceable. So for me, like I said, I just

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Speaker 1: What do you see as your value beyond the field?

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Speaker 1: If aj has decided it's time to move on, I

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Speaker 1: are that are playing well. But I just think that

426
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Speaker 1: the attitude of us against the world, we're underdogs and

427
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: we love it. I think it's pervasive, and I think

428
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to feel that down there. I

429
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Speaker 1: think the Miami Dolphins are like in for that reason.

430
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Miami Dolphins are going to overlook

431
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Speaker 1: the Bengals and say, all we have to do is

432
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Speaker 1: show up for this one. Because We've won three games,

433
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Speaker 1: and you know, we've beaten teams the Bengals haven't even

434
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: come close to, or whatever, whatever the case may be.

435
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna stay with the same attitude,

436
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: approach it like they do every week, and we're gonna

437
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: give you our best and we're gonna be aggressive and

438
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: see how the chips fall. The Bengals can clinch on Sunday. Unfortunately,

439
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: what they can clinch is the first pick in the draft.

440
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: If they lose either of their last two games, they

441
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Speaker 1: will go number one in next year's draft. Lap They've

442
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: been there before four times in Bengals history. They have

443
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: had the numb umber one pick in the draft, going

444
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: backward Carson Palmer in two thousand and three to JOHNA.

445
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Carter nineteen ninety five, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson nineteen ninety four,

446
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: and then in nineteen eighty four they got the number

447
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: one overall pick from Tampa Bay and then traded it

448
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Speaker 1: after Steve Young signed with the USFL. They wound up

449
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Speaker 1: getting two first round picks for the number one pick overall.

450
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: Everybody is assuming they are going to take LSU quarterback

451
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, the Heisman Trophy winner, Could it be a

452
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Speaker 1: different quarterback, a different position like Chase Young or lo

453
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Speaker 1: and behold, could they even trade down? What do you think?

454
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Speaker 1: I think that the group involved has to do all

455
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Speaker 1: their due diligence, and you know, there's no way they're

456
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: not going to there there In my mind, I don't

457
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: think they've decided anything yet, and you can't because you

458
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what's going to happen yet in terms

459
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: of water. But if you do get the number one

460
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft, all options are on the table.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would explore. I would make phone calls,

462
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Speaker 1: I would accept every phone call. I would exhaust every

463
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Speaker 1: possibility in terms of trade, in terms of uh, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: player study, evaluating players, I would not make any assumption

465
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Speaker 1: at this point in time. And you know, Joe Burrow, though,

466
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: just won the Heisman Trophy and the biggest landside slide

467
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Speaker 1: in the history of the Heisman Trophy and then gave

468
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Speaker 1: an acceptance speech that everybody crying, and has raised over

469
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Speaker 1: half a million dollars for food banks in his hometown,

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Speaker 1: for the underprivilege and the people that are going hungry. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I've ever seen a more

472
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Speaker 1: impactful Heisman Trophy winner. I mean, he wanted by a

473
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Speaker 1: number that's crazy, and in so doing unselfishly, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: better than the lives of a lot of people. I

475
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: mean it's almost like, is this guy real? I mean,

476
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: when's he gonna he'll ride into Cincinnati on his white horse.

477
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's a superhero already. So when you when

478
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Speaker 1: you look at when you look at the intangibles, Joe

479
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Burrow not just a football playing, which is the biggest thing.

480
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Speaker 1: Can he play? But can he lead? Oh Man, Yeah,

481
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: he's got He's got a lot, a lot going on there.

482
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Speaker 1: I thought the whole Heisman Trophy thing was interesting. The

483
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks were all transfers from big programs to big

484
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Speaker 1: program you know. I mean, you got you got players

485
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Speaker 1: going from Alabama to Oklahoma, Ohio State to LSU. You know,

486
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: just I mean, I mean crazy stuff, Georgia to Ohio State.

487
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: You know. And Joe Burrow is the third straight Heisman

488
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Speaker 1: Trophy winner who transferred exactly exactly, Yeah, I mean the

489
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks from from Oklahoma both transferred, one from Texas

490
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: Tech and and uh what the other one transferred from

491
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: Texas and Texas AM that's where he was. Yeah, Kylin

492
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Murray comes from Texas A and M. So you know,

493
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Speaker 1: it's it's like, okay, is it the right fit? Will

494
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals adapt their offense to Joe Burrow? What what

495
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: was lacking with Joe Burrow Ohio State? That LSU said,

496
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh there are crazy look at this. It's it's it's

497
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: funny sometimes, as the old saying goes, you know, you

498
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: gotta end up in the right place at the right time,

499
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: you know. Kenny Anderson often talks about if Van Brocklin

500
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Speaker 1: had drafted him in Atlanta instead of the Bengals drafting

501
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: him in Cincinnati, would you have had the same career?

502
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: Who knows? You know, you don't. It's it's almost you

503
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: can't you can't project it. So um, it's it. I

504
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow obviously is as strong a candidate as you're.

505
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Everyone gonna want to see if if it's the first

506
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: pick of the draft. Something simple like when he went

507
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: up to Dane shook his hands at Ohio State before

508
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: going up on stage. No bitterness, you know, Harbor, no

509
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: ill will you know you guys improved me. I appreciate

510
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: you guys improved me. I respect the decisions you made.

511
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: But you respect the decisions I made. It's worked out

512
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Speaker 1: for both of us. No hard feelings. Love you, coach.

513
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: You gotta lovely kid like that. I mean, how easy

514
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: would it be the coach a kid like that? You

515
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: talk about ego in check and where it should be? Man,

516
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: so many things. Ego in check, check dad, coach, football

517
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: lifer check. Athletic ability, all state basketball player in high school,

518
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: all state football player check. I mean, this guy is

519
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: making defensive players in the SEC miss. I think people

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: are under estimating his athletic ability, his ability to escape,

521
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: make you miss, short space, quickness, speed, all of it. Um.

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00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's going to be interesting. I think

523
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: he obviously presents a strong case, but you can't say

524
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, case concluded. You have to still have to

525
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: do your due diligence and assemble your closing statement. He

526
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: might have two games left, He's got at least one,

527
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. And the thing I like about

528
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: him is, I mean, his completion percentage ridiculous. It's almost

529
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: like eighty percent. It's nuts. And in big games, in

530
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: big games, you know, Conference championship game, lit it up,

531
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: lit it up, let it up with his feet and

532
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: a strolling arm. So you know, sometimes guys, a boy,

533
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Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen when when it's a

534
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: big game and it's all the marbles are on the line. Man,

535
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: he's so far stepped up. Like you said, he has

536
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: a couple more under the national spotlight. So he seems

537
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: to me to be the kind of kid though, that

538
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: embraces the big stage. He's not intimidated. It's almost like

539
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: water rolling off a duck's back. This is what I wanted,

540
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: and finally I've got what I wanted, and I'm not

541
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: going to mess it up. Four of the last five

542
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: number one overall picks in the NFL draft have been

543
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Jamis Winston, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, and Kyler Murray.

544
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: The one exception was Miles Garrett in twenty seventeen. Again,

545
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals clinched the number one overall spot if they

546
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Speaker 1: lose one more game. Now, time for this week's Know

547
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Speaker 1: the Faux segment as we take an in depth look

548
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: at the bengals upcoming opponent. And this week we're joined

549
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: by Cameron Wolfe, who covers the Dolphins for ESPN. He's

550
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: had a difficult job of getting to know the guys

551
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: he covers this year, since Miami has already used an

552
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: NFL record eighty players, what has it been like to

553
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: cover a team when on a weekly basis you're probably

554
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: not even sure who Who's that? Who's that guy over there?

555
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: It's the real men. Sometimes I have players in the

556
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: locker room asking me who this guy y'all just picked

557
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: up from from off waivers last week? He played at

558
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: the University of Michigan. Uh, give him the whole bios. So, yeah,

559
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: they tell me. Sometimes they don't. They just call each

560
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: other numbers of the name that they don't recommend. That's crazy. Uh.

561
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Brian Flores has coached offense, defense, special teams. I mean,

562
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: he's got a full indoctrination to the game of football.

563
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: In my opinion, with what we're talking about, the number

564
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: of players that he's had to deal with, I am

565
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: legitimately thinking if I had to vote, I might vote

566
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Speaker 1: for him for Coach of the Year. I don't think

567
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: anybody has had to deal with as much crap as

568
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: he had all year long. It's crazy diversity. I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: I think this is easily the least talent at roster

570
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think, you know, everything that he

571
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: had to deal with from you know, trade a week

572
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: before the season started up, their star left tackle trading away.

573
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: They're they're you know, who's a Pro Bowl stay dummkop

574
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: the Patrick Kenny still at least thing that will to

575
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Speaker 1: deal with. And the fact they still got three wins,

576
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Speaker 1: including one against the team that might win a division still,

577
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Speaker 1: the Eagles. I think that is a credit to him

578
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Speaker 1: and the staff. You know, I don't know if I

579
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Speaker 1: go as far as which of the year because they're

580
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: still three and eleven, but I do think that he

581
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: does deserve credit for brigiding guys not to quit on

582
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: them and maximizing the talent he had had from this rock.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Cameron Wilfer covers the Dolphins for ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Everybody said from the beginning of the year that the

585
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Speaker 1: Dolphins are tanking, and you know, I don't know how

586
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I even feel about that term. I think they are

587
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: trying to acquire assets and it's worked. They've got three

588
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: first round picks this year, a couple of seconds. They've

589
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: got an extra first round pick next year. How is

590
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Miami reacting to the strategy they have used in trying

591
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: to build assets. Yeah, I think that's early on. There

592
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of backlash about that, tanking words used,

593
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: especially because they were losing games. I think it was

594
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and two to ten the first two contests.

595
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: They started off and seven with one of the worst

596
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: points there differentials in NFL history, So people were wondering

597
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: just exactly how what this meaning for the game of football,

598
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: and then I all kind of got eraised when they

599
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: won some games. So I think overall that the past

600
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: is still on point. They won't have the number one

601
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: overall pick most likely that'll probably go to Cincinnati out

602
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: there unless they win the last two games. But I

603
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: do think that, you know, they've been selling hope to

604
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: their fan base whole season that Hey, the hope is

605
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have fourteen picks, the hope is we're gonna

606
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: have three first round picks. The hope is that we're

607
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna eventually find our franchise quarterback. So once we get

608
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: into off season mode, they're going to finally be to

609
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: see some of the fruits of the hope they're selling.

610
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: So I think the fan base has been on board

611
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: because they believe that, you know, there'll be greener pastures

612
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: once they get past this painful season. Speaking of a

613
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback traded for Rosen, Ryan Fitzpatrick is at the helm.

614
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I've known Ryan Fitzpatrick since his college days. My nephew

615
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick co captains at Harvard when they won

616
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the Harvard the Ivy League championship. So Fitzpatrick to me

617
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: is a unique guy in a lot of ways, tangibly

618
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: and intangibly. How big of an impact has he had

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Speaker 1: on the football team in the organization and what's going

620
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: on with Rosen is he is he dead man in

621
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Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, that's a good phrase to put it.

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Speaker 1: I think we kept Ryan Josh Rosen questions today and

623
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Speaker 1: he put it, you know, as honest as yeah has

624
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: since he's been here, and simply said that Fitch is

625
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: best for us. Because all the people who say differently,

626
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd have the same strength to

627
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: say that in front of the group of guys. So

628
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I think he's essentially saying that the guys, the guys

629
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: in the locker room no better quarterback, and he, as

630
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: a coach, feel like it was right for him to

631
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: put a guy out there who wasn't the best thing

632
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: for them. So I think that Josh Rosen has played

633
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: his last mat for the Dolfense. Unless that Patrick is hurt,

634
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: I think they find a way to trade him in

635
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: the off season. I just don't know if there's a

636
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: future for Ends here in Miami. That being said, that

637
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Patrick has been, you know, the opposite of what Josh

638
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Rose has been to them. He's lifted this team. I

639
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: talked to guys in the locker room regularly and they

640
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: speak about how they played differently for fits. They play

641
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: harder for him. He brings a different energy, he brings

642
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: a different nasty and then some of those things you mentioned,

643
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: the intangible. I just walked past the locker room and

644
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: he's sitting around the lunch room eating with five offensive

645
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: linement and two tight ends like that stuff that you

646
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: can't teach, but those small things make an impact on

647
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: the team, Like those are just the natural inclinations of

648
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: who he is one of the guys. So that element

649
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: has been I think extremely helpful for the Dolphins in

650
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: this year when everybody he's trying to pull them apart

651
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: about what they can't do while they're trying to lose

652
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: that they've had a guy that's kind of excludes them together.

653
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: And you know, especially all these you know, different pieces

654
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: that are coming in and out. Do they feel like

655
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback doesn't necessarily have to play his rookie

656
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: year because Fitzpatrick the way he has played, or do

657
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: they look at Ryan Fitzpatrick is the perfect mentor for

658
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: that first year quarterback and play him right away? Well,

659
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: how do you think the organization's feeling about that that position.

660
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: I think that you know, a lot of it's going

661
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: to depend on Ryan. And I asked him just this

662
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: about four minutes ago, and he's been really really trying

663
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: to avoid the question. With twenty twenty, he has to

664
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: decide if he wants to come back. You know, he's

665
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, he's you know, played fifteen seasons.

666
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: This is the first year he hasn't been with the family.

667
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: He's got seven kids and as the wife that still

668
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: live in Tampa. So you know, he has one more

669
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: year in his contract and I think it's going to

670
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: be about eight million dollars on that deal and about

671
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: half of the guaranteed. So if he wants to come

672
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: back spot shift, he's they're available for him, and I

673
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: think he would be easy guy to at least open up.

674
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, training can't take in the early reps. But

675
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: the question is does he want to come back and

676
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: play another year? So if he does, yeah, I think

677
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick and a quarterback, you have him come

678
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: in and let him battling out if the Ricky wins school.

679
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, maybe you let Fits start until he's ready.

680
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: And maybe in the case with Alabama quarterback to a

681
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: tong of Viola, if he's injured, maybe you can you

682
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: can ease him in by still playing Fits for most

683
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: of the year. So I think they have a lot

684
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: of different options there, but I think the one person

685
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: may not be one of those options. It's Josh Rosy.

686
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Cameron Wolf covers the Dolphins for ESPN. The Dolphins have

687
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: given up fifty four sacks, far and away number one

688
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They've used ten different offensive line combinations

689
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: this season. How big of a mess is the offensive line?

690
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: It's a huge mess. I wrote this last week after

691
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: the game. I think they may need to find four

692
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: new starting offensive linemen and not probably a generous you

693
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: know estimate. You know, it could end up being five

694
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: at the ends of the rebuild. Um there's just not

695
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: a lot there. You know, they drafted a rookie in

696
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: the third round and Michael Dieter this year, and he's

697
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: been in and out of the starting lineup with struggles.

698
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: They've got a you know, a kind of a journeyman

699
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: veterans in there who probably are in the last year

700
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: with a team. Um, there just hasn't been any continuity.

701
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: They were doing a three man guard rotation last week,

702
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: UM just because neither none of the guards were playing well.

703
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: So they just figured, hey, we'll just keep swapping them

704
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: out and see if something sick. So, yeah, it's it's been.

705
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: It's been quite an ordeal. I'm actually surprised that Ryan

706
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Pitpatchers has survived the season with all the hits that

707
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: he's taken. UM. But you know, I think that that

708
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna be a priority priority two behind quarterback,

709
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: and it's something that draft multiple times and free at

710
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: the end of draft. Like you guys said, fifty four

711
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: sacks most allowed in the NFL, have only generated eighteen

712
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: fewest in the NFL. The mind the minus thirty six

713
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: sack ratio. The Bengals are next worst at minus twenty.

714
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are almost doubled out at minus thirty six.

715
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: Can't protect, can't pass rush. I mean it's been problems

716
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: with Stremmage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's the game

717
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: of football. I think that's the essence of it. You know,

718
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: this team really struggles in the trenches. You know, their

719
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: front seven, they don't have any talent up there. They

720
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of journeyment players. Um, they drafted Christian

721
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: Wilkins in the first round, but he's an interior interior rusher.

722
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't really generate much pass rush. So yeah, I

723
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: think that that's something that, you know, to rebuild this

724
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: team the right way, they're gonna have to spend multiple

725
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: years rebuilding both sides of those trenches. They need two

726
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: edge rushers, they need more offensive linemen, they need a

727
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: couple interior seasons linemen as well. So there's a lot

728
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: of knees on this team, and that's why they're gonna

729
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: have to use all their team picks and one hundred

730
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: plus a million of cats based effectively. Because this team

731
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: isn't close. They're far away away from being a consider

732
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins did not have a Pro bowler when the

733
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: rosters came out yesterday, but two of the guys they

734
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: traded away this year, made it make a Fitzpatrick and

735
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Laramy Tunsil in retrospect, those guys aren't old. Why did

736
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: they feel the need to trade away two of their

737
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: recent high picks just to get more high picks? That

738
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: was two of them were puzzling, you know, moves the season.

739
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: I think for me, the biggest, the biggest one, the

740
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: most puzzling one is to make a Fitzpatrick one because

741
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: he's a player who was their first round pick just

742
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: a year ago twenty eight team. So he you know,

743
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: you had him under contract for three three more years

744
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: plus a fifth year option for pretty cheap because you've

745
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: already played the signing bonus. He's a guy who he's

746
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: a really talented player. I think he's got five interceptions

747
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: this year playing free safety. And the issue there was,

748
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, Brian Fluoris wanted to put him in a

749
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: position where he was playing more in the box, playing

750
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: a more linebacker position and make a fit. Patrick just

751
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: wanted to say and one spot dearly through safety. So

752
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers put him back there and we're seeing what

753
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: he could do there. So I would think they were

754
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: at that trade if he acts them and gave them

755
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: a true serum. I think it was a situation where

756
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: Minka wasn't a real saying about how he was being used,

757
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: and it's often said, hey, we're just gonna move on

758
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: and cut our losses and get the best we can.

759
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: So I think they thought the Steelers were gonna be

760
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: worse than they were, so that they thought that pick

761
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: was gonna end up being the top ten or top

762
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: ten team pick. And now it looks like the Steelers

763
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: maybe a playoff team, so that pick might be in

764
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the twenties. Um, so that that trade for sure is

765
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: looking like you know that they didn't they didn't. They

766
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: didn't think that one foils through and Laramie Counsel trade.

767
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: You know. I think they just saw the draft capital

768
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: was too muchs have passed up. You know, they got

769
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: two first round picks and a second round pick for

770
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Laramie Counsel and did so that's a boot, that's a

771
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: quarterback ransom. So they might still do that one again

772
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: because those picks give them a certain level of AMMO

773
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: and flexibility that most teams don't have. Um, But now

774
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: you've got to go find another Laramie Counsel because that's

775
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: one of the spots that are now open on the

776
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: offensive line, So maybe they do it the Patriot way

777
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: and find a way to go, you know, Chiefer, and

778
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: still a bunch of different spots. But there are a

779
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of question marks that are going into the twenty

780
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty off season, maybe even more question marks than they

781
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: had this time last year. Brian Flores speaking of the

782
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Patriot Way, heavily influenced obviously by Bill Belichick. I'm curious

783
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three, Marvin Lewis's first year

784
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: as a head coach, he brought in to Kio Spikes

785
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: to his office and talked about what he envisioned for

786
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the future. And they just finished the two and fourteen

787
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: season to Kio Spikes wasn't really all that on board,

788
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis decides to move them. Do you think that

789
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: might have happened with Minca Fitzpatrick and Brian Flores? And

790
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: now in retrospect, Marvin Lewis has one of the biggest

791
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: mistakes I made was moving to Kio Spikes. Do you

792
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: think that Brian Flores may be in that situation with

793
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: Minca Fitzpatrick. Yeah, I think eventually he could be, especially

794
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that Nika has a lot of seasons like the one

795
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: he had this year. I think, you know, that's the

796
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: first year head coach, and he has made some mistakes,

797
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: and I think, in my opinion, that's one of them

798
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: where he may have been too stubborn and saying, hey,

799
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: you've got to do this my way versus you know,

800
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: being a little bit more flexible to when the player

801
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: wanted to do. So, you know, I think there should

802
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: have been a little bit more compromise there, and you know,

803
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: there wasn't and Brian Flores was very adamant we acted.

804
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: You know that this wasn't a new process makeup. Patrick

805
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: had expressed, you know, some frustration throughout the offseason on

806
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: not really having a steady position, having to play five

807
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: or six different spots, and he was effective gets play,

808
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: and you know, Brian Flores just said, hey, we think

809
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: this is the best thing for the team, and he

810
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: stayed steady with that. So I think, yeah, you're right.

811
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: Maybe when he looks back and said, hey, I could

812
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: have been a little less subborn, I could have been

813
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more flexible, and that could have been

814
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: a position that we didn't have to solve in the future.

815
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: But now they you know, it's done and they've got

816
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: to move on, and you know, hopefully they can get

817
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: a player that you know, plays like makea Fitzpatrick thanks

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Speaker 1: to wespn's Cameron Wolf, and that's going to do it

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