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Speaker 1: It is Friday, October eighth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty seven. Welcome to the latest edition All
Speaker 1: the Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, you see me and Dave here. Nick
Speaker 1: is joining us remotely today, so you should be able
Speaker 1: to see his mug there as well. Nick, why don't
Speaker 1: you jump right in and give us a thirty seven man? Oh,
Speaker 1: let's go with James Washington. Here we go. He was
Speaker 1: They called him drive by. I don't think he could
Speaker 1: play in the league the way it is today because
Speaker 1: of the way he hits. But uh that or Matt Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, remember him the Unicorn? Did he didn't he
Speaker 1: knock himself out like he knocked himself out of playing
Speaker 1: hitting good too hard? He did? He? I don't know
Speaker 1: that guy. I think he ever had a hamstring healthy
Speaker 1: long enough to knock himself out. No, you're thinking of
Speaker 1: Justin Burrio. Here we go Justin Burio about Yeah another safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they both played safety. They both looked like each other,
Speaker 1: and that neither one of them really turned out to
Speaker 1: be that good. Yeah, right, injury, different kinds of injuries. Hey, Nick,
Speaker 1: I just want you to know, um, shout out, shout
Speaker 1: out to our our website faithful who used the mail
Speaker 1: bag function, because the mailbag is full of people offering
Speaker 1: you suggestions and critiques of the numbers that you choose,
Speaker 1: so good. Just want those people you're seen, You're seen
Speaker 1: and noticed. Well. I just just so everyone's clear. I've
Speaker 1: said this before. There's the right answer, and then there's
Speaker 1: my answer. So I mean, I know my answer is
Speaker 1: not a number, right. I think it is in thirty seven,
Speaker 1: though I can't think of that many other other thirty sevens.
Speaker 1: Though I think we're I think we're on the night
Speaker 1: track the go ahead. Yeah, No, I can't think of
Speaker 1: a thirty seven around the team right now? Is there?
Speaker 1: Chiquon Hardy? I believe if you count practice squad as
Speaker 1: the team, right he's thirty seven and he was one
Speaker 1: two by the way, oh ab yeah yeah, he was
Speaker 1: another safety. Yeah. All right, let's jump right in. We
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta catch up on some injuries and some
Speaker 1: some personnel things before we get to our storylines we
Speaker 1: we always do on Fridays. I'll lay out some storylines
Speaker 1: for you guys and get your opinions on the storylines
Speaker 1: heading into the Cowboys Versus Giants. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. Expectation he's playing this week. Expectation is he's
Speaker 1: playing this week, Let's go, let's go, He'll be back.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Keanuneil a little bit. We haven't really
Speaker 1: talked about him from the standpoint if we know that
Speaker 1: he's back from COVID is one percent because he did
Speaker 1: this was not one of those situations where he tested positive,
Speaker 1: didn't really have any symptoms. He said that. He then
Speaker 1: in the interview he had earlier this week, it seemed
Speaker 1: like the way he was talking he kind of felt
Speaker 1: it like he was going through it a bit. So
Speaker 1: what is your concern or what is your expectation with
Speaker 1: regards to how much you expect him to play this week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I'm sure he's got to deal
Speaker 1: with that, right, I mean, that's a long time to
Speaker 1: be out, and if you were actually feeling the effects
Speaker 1: of COVID, I'm sure that's how on your respiratory system.
Speaker 1: But my expectation is that Mike McCarthy called him full go,
Speaker 1: and Keanu himself kind of was like, yeah, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go. I hated missing two games. I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe his snap count is lessened
Speaker 1: a little bit because of that or maybe not. We've seen,
Speaker 1: and I know illnesses are different than injuries, but we've
Speaker 1: seen how many times have we worried about a guy's
Speaker 1: availability and then he plays one hundred percent of the snaps?
Speaker 1: You know, so he was playing seventy five percent before
Speaker 1: he got sick. It seems like a high number in
Speaker 1: your first game back. So maybe a little less, But
Speaker 1: my expectation is that he's not not limited. So we'll see, Nick,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that, Yeah, I think Jalen Smith's
Speaker 1: release is kind of a domino effect to it that
Speaker 1: you sometimes we have to read between the lines that
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if they felt like he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to be back to normal because because you know,
Speaker 1: he plays a lot in the nickel there, Keyan O'Neill does.
Speaker 1: So I feel like they wouldn't have made this move
Speaker 1: if they didn't feel like Keyan O'Neill was going to
Speaker 1: come back and be back to his normal self. And
Speaker 1: they have other options as well, but you know, there's
Speaker 1: no way to make yourself thin for no reason. Talk
Speaker 1: about Lyle Collins. We mentioned yesterday that he was kind
Speaker 1: of looking at his legal situation with the league. There
Speaker 1: was a bit of a development coming into today. What
Speaker 1: do you guys know about about him? The expectation in
Speaker 1: the building is that he's not That's not a thing
Speaker 1: this week. At least that's that's their expectation. And Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy even said today like they don't really have a
Speaker 1: plan for that to happen this week, Like there's so
Speaker 1: little time between the game, there's so much uncertainty with
Speaker 1: the legal situation. I think their attitude is like, if
Speaker 1: that happens, that'll be great and we can put something together,
Speaker 1: but that's not something that we're even really considering right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I did read was that supposedly the judge is
Speaker 1: planning to hear there is a judge who's planning to
Speaker 1: hear his argument today, and so we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: But even let's just say it happens, and I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday, even if it happens on
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, after you've been out since the season opener
Speaker 1: September ninth was literally a month ago. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: would that would surprise me. I don't even at this
Speaker 1: late in the week, I wonder if he'd even be active.
Speaker 1: I tend to doubt it. I think you just say,
Speaker 1: this is wonderful, and we'll get you. We'll start getting
Speaker 1: you ready for New England. Yeah, so it sounds like
Speaker 1: these are really two different things. Go ahead, Nick, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just gonna throw I feel like
Speaker 1: it's kind of becoming an elephant in the room a
Speaker 1: little bit, because if he comes back, whenever he comes back,
Speaker 1: like I know, he's Lyell Collins, but we're just based
Speaker 1: off of the three or four weeks we've seen from
Speaker 1: Lyell when he was preseason and then that first game,
Speaker 1: and then what we've seen at a Terrence Steel. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Terrence has actually played better, and maybe I
Speaker 1: am grading off a curve maybe I'm just going off
Speaker 1: of of what you know, just what my expectations were,
Speaker 1: But it kind of seems like Terrence Steele. I said
Speaker 1: this on the radio this morning. I think he's been
Speaker 1: your third best lineman across the board, behind the Tyrann
Speaker 1: and Zach And I don't know. I mean, are we
Speaker 1: at that road or we needed to discuss this, or
Speaker 1: is just a plug and play as soon as Lyle
Speaker 1: comes back. I mean, I have a tiger head tattooed
Speaker 1: on my arm, so maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm not
Speaker 1: the guy you maybe not the right person, but no,
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even close, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I don't think so. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say Lyle struggled in the preseason and
Speaker 1: then but like like Terence Steele looked like butt in
Speaker 1: the preseason, like we were we spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time like does this team have a swing tackle? Like
Speaker 1: who's what are we doing here? Like in Sky and
Speaker 1: Steele both look awful. So I don't think that's fair.
Speaker 1: And I thought Lyle played well against Tampa Bay. I mean,
Speaker 1: what Dak got sacked one time in that game, and
Speaker 1: I think it came from up the middle. If I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I might know it was a pursuit play.
Speaker 1: Dak was stringing it out and he couldn't get away
Speaker 1: from Barrett. I think, um, I know, I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to say that. I think okay, and I I'm not
Speaker 1: sure either, and I and I don't have a red
Speaker 1: raider and tattoo at all ever, so I never know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, m yeah, every but but I you know,
Speaker 1: and not that I There's been some Arkansas players that
Speaker 1: come through here that I'm just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. But um, I just think he's played
Speaker 1: really well and so maybe not right now when he
Speaker 1: comes back, but you know, I do think we're starting
Speaker 1: to look at the right tackle of the future, or
Speaker 1: at least a piece of this line some way. And
Speaker 1: I know that seems weird to say, because he did
Speaker 1: not look good in the preseason, but he has looked
Speaker 1: really good in these these last three or four games. Yeah, honestly, Nick,
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair conversation to have. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I necessarily am to the point where I'm like, yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: you need you need to stick with steel. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that, But I do think it's a fair
Speaker 1: conversation because we did talk about how, you know, during
Speaker 1: the preseason I expected more of Lyle, and that was
Speaker 1: basically based on expectations. You know, you're looking at him.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran, he's been a really good player for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I don't think he was at that level
Speaker 1: during the preseason training camp, and so that's where I
Speaker 1: can kind of understand where the conversation is a fair conversation.
Speaker 1: But I also agree with you, Dave, like you gotta
Speaker 1: give it some time, like those guys did look great
Speaker 1: back then either, and Terrence still is playing really well.
Speaker 1: So and by the way, they may be doing some
Speaker 1: things right now to protect steal that they may not
Speaker 1: have to do when Lyle comes back, which may even
Speaker 1: it's weird to say, may even open up this offense
Speaker 1: offense even more so. That's the part where I would
Speaker 1: probably still opt to say Lyle is your guy. But
Speaker 1: I do think it's a fair conversation. And I don't
Speaker 1: I don't mean to crap on Terrence. I think he's
Speaker 1: playing great. I just I'm not ready to I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to have that conversation yet. And I'd just like
Speaker 1: to see Lsu buy a society. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: Lyle have a chance to play like he was out
Speaker 1: all last year. We you know, we we we went
Speaker 1: back and forth about whether they needed to draft a
Speaker 1: tackle and can he stay healthy? What's the deal here?
Speaker 1: And he gets suspended one game into the season. So
Speaker 1: I just, you know, just like to see a chance
Speaker 1: to get to watch the guy play. All right, here's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a quick early break,
Speaker 1: and once we back from that break, we're going to
Speaker 1: jump into our storylines. We got a lot of questions
Speaker 1: lined up for these guys to get you guys ready
Speaker 1: for Cowboys versus Giants. Will do that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: It is the second segment of the break Life from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. After star Let's Get Ready
Speaker 1: for Cowboys Versus Giants That happens this Sunday three twenty five.
Speaker 1: Kick at AT and T Stadium. My first question for
Speaker 1: you guys is how does Dallas adjust its linebacker rotation
Speaker 1: without Jalen Smith. I think the answer to that is
Speaker 1: pretty simple, honestly. I mean sounds mean, but it kind
Speaker 1: of felt like they were like looking for excuses to
Speaker 1: shoehorn Jalen into it in the first place. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: so we I mean we talked about Keyan O'Neill. In
Speaker 1: a perfect world, I think Keyan O'Neill and Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: are your nickel linebackers. Like passing situations, Layton vander esh
Speaker 1: has a role in base. Neil and Mica get the
Speaker 1: predominant amount of the snaps. Now, obviously there are factors there.
Speaker 1: Mike is going to see more time at edge at
Speaker 1: least that's what we've seen, that's what we expect, and
Speaker 1: so Layton can help offset that. And then you got
Speaker 1: to see how ready Neil is to just jump right
Speaker 1: in right, um, I mean maybe we might. It's possible, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's And you don't make this move, I don't think
Speaker 1: unless Cox is at least part of it. Like you're
Speaker 1: at least kind of intrigued or confident by what you've
Speaker 1: seen from him to this point, I think, and so
Speaker 1: especially in a week where Mica might have to play
Speaker 1: some edge and Keyan O'Neill might not be have his
Speaker 1: win back. Yeah, I mean I think that's something worth considering,
Speaker 1: at least Nick. Yeah. I mean, I don't think people
Speaker 1: in life don't just cut their hand or burn themselves
Speaker 1: for just from the fun of it. I mean, like
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they don't want to. They don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt themselves by saying, man, let's get him off.
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure out how to you know, get him
Speaker 1: off the team. Let's figure out how to how to
Speaker 1: deal with it. I mean, like, I think that they
Speaker 1: felt like he was a progress stopper to probably Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox and maybe to some of the like the safeties,
Speaker 1: curse those guys coming back into it and playing some
Speaker 1: nickel or playing Parsons more, or maybe they want to
Speaker 1: do more the pass rush. I just I agree with Dave.
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to figure out ways to
Speaker 1: get him in the lineup because of who he is,
Speaker 1: and he's been a captain, he's been a pro bowler
Speaker 1: and all his status, but they I don't feel like
Speaker 1: they feel like they're going to be hurt by it,
Speaker 1: or you wouldn't do it. The other thing too. I
Speaker 1: think we've talked about this, but just in case we haven't,
Speaker 1: I think jay Ron Curse is part of this as well.
Speaker 1: Maybe not yet because Donovan Wilson's not ready they need
Speaker 1: him to start at safety, But when Donovan Wilson's healthy,
Speaker 1: if you want to find ways to get him back
Speaker 1: onto the field, Curse already does a lot of that anyway.
Speaker 1: Like if you look in the Nickel situations, he's down
Speaker 1: in the box anyway, He's either shot, he's either over
Speaker 1: the tight end or off just a little bit over
Speaker 1: by the tackle. Like he's down in the box when
Speaker 1: they're in those situations anyway. So and then I've mentioned
Speaker 1: before it seems like they like to use him as
Speaker 1: a dime linebacker and it allows and that's a situation
Speaker 1: and that allows you to use Mica as a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: So I think he's part of that as well, and
Speaker 1: that might be how you can get him and Wilson
Speaker 1: onto the field. All right, let's move on to storyline
Speaker 1: number two. We talked earlier this week with Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: about the size of the defensive front for the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. How does Dallas's offensive line, and I'm specifically
Speaker 1: talking about Tyler Battis, who we've seen had some problems
Speaker 1: with big, strong guys in Terrence Steele, how do they
Speaker 1: handle the size and the power of the Giants defensive
Speaker 1: front Dave. Oh, all right, I was gonna. I'm I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the old delay, you know, the
Speaker 1: COVID mode. That's why I'm doing name. Okay, it's easier
Speaker 1: for everybody. Um, yeah, I think again. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean we talked about Leonard Williams. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's week after week in the NFL,
Speaker 1: like this type of stuff is gonna happen. I like
Speaker 1: I said yesterday, I don't worry about the edge so much.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe that's famous last words,
Speaker 1: but I don't worry that there's just this guy they
Speaker 1: can't handle on the edge. Azizo Gelardi is playing in
Speaker 1: his fifth game, and if you have to help steal out,
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not worried about Tyrn Smith. You'd all could
Speaker 1: start about Williams lining up out there because he can
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I know he definitely can. You're right, Um,
Speaker 1: just leaning on past experience and saying, like, if they
Speaker 1: can handle Bosa and some of these other guys, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they can find a way to make it work.
Speaker 1: Different kind of player though, absolutely, power is the problem.
Speaker 1: The bio. Joey Bosa's everything though, Like I mean, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not an easer, but but Leonard Williams is a
Speaker 1: bigger guy anyone. He's a big guy. I just if
Speaker 1: they can handle some of these other fronts that we've seen,
Speaker 1: I'm just trusting that they can handle this. That's just
Speaker 1: how I feel. Nick. Yeah, I think when if you
Speaker 1: go back, if they were to play the Buccaneers right now,
Speaker 1: especially with Zack Martin because he wasn't in that game,
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have just gone away from
Speaker 1: the inside running and like they did and just went
Speaker 1: for the outside, which kind of made themselves somewhat one dimensional.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would do that now, and so
Speaker 1: I don't think if they're not doing it for them,
Speaker 1: I don't think they would do it for the Giants.
Speaker 1: He had Leonard Williams a problem. He proved that Week
Speaker 1: seventeen last year. But I just and of course tyrant
Speaker 1: lyle Zach, they weren't in that game. I think that
Speaker 1: they'll play it straight up, and I think they'll try
Speaker 1: to run them overpower them, play fast, play the outside,
Speaker 1: and just you know, use all the entire field. And
Speaker 1: you know, I know that no guard has ever probably
Speaker 1: won an MVP vote or not that Zack Martin should.
Speaker 1: But I don't think if anybody's playing better than he
Speaker 1: is right now on the offensive line, he's just been incredible.
Speaker 1: To think he's played three games and if you go
Speaker 1: buy PFF grades, he's been the best in the league
Speaker 1: two of the three games he's been out there all right.
Speaker 1: Question number three, Trayvon Diggs is on a record pace
Speaker 1: in interceptions for the club. If the over under were
Speaker 1: set at nine and a half interceptions for the season,
Speaker 1: which way do you go over under? Dave, I hate this.
Speaker 1: We did this on the Start at Night last week,
Speaker 1: and I like, I'm just playing the numbers, like I'm
Speaker 1: not talking trash on Trayvon Diggs, but it's hard to
Speaker 1: get interceptions in the NFL. So but he's got five,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like, I it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the gambler's fallacy. Right, You're like, well, it's
Speaker 1: been black four times, it'll surely be read and then
Speaker 1: it's black again, like it's it's it sucks because the numbers,
Speaker 1: the numbers say that he can't keep doing this. But
Speaker 1: every time I bet against him, he's proven me. You're
Speaker 1: actually doubled down last So I mean nine, okay, so
Speaker 1: he's got five, he's got five. You said nine and
Speaker 1: a half. I said nine and a half. Over run
Speaker 1: and nine and a a half. So he's gotta get five more. Yea,
Speaker 1: And he's got what eleven more games? No, no, twelve
Speaker 1: more games? Yeah right, yeah, twelve more games. I gotta
Speaker 1: go over. That's oh no, waity, how many games? Thirteen
Speaker 1: more games? I can't do math at all, all right,
Speaker 1: thirteen games to get five? Yeah, I gotta go. I
Speaker 1: gotta go over. I gotta go over. Okay, man, you
Speaker 1: know what when you when you broke it down that way,
Speaker 1: I guess so because I guess I can go with
Speaker 1: the over. I mean that that's just saying double digit interceptions.
Speaker 1: That's only happened. I mean, it's only happened with Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: like he had eleven. I mean that's I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say that. I'm asked I'm gonna go under,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. I think I feel like eight
Speaker 1: eight to nine is where it's gonna be because it
Speaker 1: is gonna dry up. He's not gonna get as many
Speaker 1: passes his way. Um. But you know I wrote about
Speaker 1: that yesterday. It's a it's a huge dilema for teams.
Speaker 1: Now you want to just not throw at him. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's more incentive for the Cowboys to put their best
Speaker 1: guy on their best receiver and just say, all right,
Speaker 1: then don't throw at him, because then they'll just take
Speaker 1: away your best player. I am. I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: that though, and I completely agree with everything you just said.
Speaker 1: But something that people have been talking about this week
Speaker 1: that I didn't notice. I mean, I know football, I
Speaker 1: watch film, but I'm not a guru. But like Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs is, he's good enough to freelance and create interceptions.
Speaker 1: Like he jumped the route on that first pick over
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. He left his man because
Speaker 1: he was so confident in what was happening that he
Speaker 1: was like, I don't have to worry about that game,
Speaker 1: which can totally get you burned, can completely get you burned.
Speaker 1: But it didn't. It was amazing play by him. And
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they can avoid him, and he can
Speaker 1: still make plays like he's confident enough in what he's
Speaker 1: doing that he can leave his assignment and freelance on
Speaker 1: somebody else's and get a pick. And to that point
Speaker 1: on the second interception, he can also give quarterbacks look
Speaker 1: that makes him think, well, here's an opportunity we're taking.
Speaker 1: Like he baited him on that throw. He played off.
Speaker 1: I know he had to be seven, eight, maybe nine
Speaker 1: yards off the line of scrimmage and showed them that, hey,
Speaker 1: here's this guy may be open on a quick dig
Speaker 1: right and immediately, like he knew exactly when the quarterback
Speaker 1: was about to throw, he bit the route and he
Speaker 1: was right there. He baited him. And so I think
Speaker 1: that's the other part about this is that you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a really smart quarterback not to go
Speaker 1: for it when they're like, Okay, well here's my opportunity.
Speaker 1: I don't throw at it most of the time, but
Speaker 1: here's an easy route, and for you know what, it's
Speaker 1: going the other way right thirteen games for I mean
Speaker 1: ten is a lot, but thirteen games to get five
Speaker 1: is I just yeah, I feel weird being the optimistic one,
Speaker 1: but I can't bet against them, all right, So let's
Speaker 1: do this. We'll zero in a little bit more on
Speaker 1: this game. With regards to Trey Von, is there a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that you think is the most dangerous on
Speaker 1: this Giants team? And should Digs give him most of
Speaker 1: the attention throughout the day? Should they have him travel
Speaker 1: most of the data to shut that guy down or
Speaker 1: at least force the other team to stay away from
Speaker 1: their best option. So I think the Giants are interesting
Speaker 1: because Kenny Golladay, he it's weird. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: compare him to Amari, they're different players, but I just
Speaker 1: mean he's not like this crazy burner. He doesn't like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have insane speed. He just gets open, like
Speaker 1: he finds ways to separates with the way that he
Speaker 1: runs his route. And he's got great hands, He's got
Speaker 1: really good hands. And then you know, Kadarius Tony's just
Speaker 1: a speed freak really, like he's not even he's not
Speaker 1: a polished receiver, Like his routes at Florida were go
Speaker 1: balls and bubble screens. I mean, he's just he's terrify,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's and he wore number one, so
Speaker 1: it's an easy comparison to make. But he's like Percy Harvin,
Speaker 1: just get the ball in his hands and good stuff
Speaker 1: will happen. So I say that to say I would
Speaker 1: rather Digs be with Gala Day because I just just
Speaker 1: blank just bracket the speed guy, know and and figure
Speaker 1: that out and let the technician cover the technician. I guess, Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that when you look at what
Speaker 1: happened last week, you know that that interception that Diggs
Speaker 1: had was was kind of a byproduct of him, like
Speaker 1: you said, freelancing, but that wasn't something he was doing
Speaker 1: earlier in the game. Daniel Jones, smart guy, obviously, you
Speaker 1: know this is he's not a rookie. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that he you know, he'll be fooled easily, but I
Speaker 1: think you mix it up on him, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: you you cover him with Galladay at times, you you
Speaker 1: you know, you leave him on one side of the field,
Speaker 1: and then like he did in that play, he let
Speaker 1: him rome a little bit. I mean, what's the amazing
Speaker 1: about Treyvon Diggs is his eyes. I think, I mean
Speaker 1: that now his hands are receivers hands, but his eyes
Speaker 1: are just unbelievable. And I think that he's got everything
Speaker 1: going for him right now. He's got confidence, he's got
Speaker 1: the hands, ball skills, he's got the eyes, the quick feet.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just doing everything you would want him
Speaker 1: to do. And so I think you kind of throw
Speaker 1: them all over the field a little bit, mix it
Speaker 1: up and confuse them to where he's going to line up.
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Speaker 1: the game Cowboys versus Giants this Sunday at at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium. Here's what I think is actually going to
Speaker 1: be the real story one way or the other with
Speaker 1: regards to who wins wins this game. From the standpoint
Speaker 1: of the Giants being successful. Daniel Jones leads the Giants
Speaker 1: right now and rushing with one hundred and eighty eight yards,
Speaker 1: how does Dallas limit him on the ground, Because it's
Speaker 1: my belief that their success comes from his ability to
Speaker 1: have those chunk plays in the running games. So how
Speaker 1: does Dallas limit that? Dave I mean with quarterbacks is
Speaker 1: it's always discipline, right, I mean, I'm thinking about Darnold's
Speaker 1: first touchdown on Sunday. You know, they they Chauncey Golston
Speaker 1: chose poorly to quote the Indiana Jones movie, I guess. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna they're gonna design some things for him.
Speaker 1: And so I'm having speed at linebacker helps gap discipline
Speaker 1: all everything. Every time that type of stuff happens, I
Speaker 1: just think about after the game, like when you ask
Speaker 1: a DeMarcus Lawrence, They're just like that's all They're just
Speaker 1: like gap discipline, Like we just we didn't stay on
Speaker 1: our gaps. And then last year it happened every week
Speaker 1: because people were running all over him. And I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's as simple as you're trying to make it sound,
Speaker 1: why can't you fix it? So stay disciplined and then
Speaker 1: and then obviously hmming him in, um keeping him in
Speaker 1: the well, to quote Rod Marinelli, and if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, he's probably gonna hurt him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Like I've said a few times, I don't completely trust
Speaker 1: this defense discipline and assignment wise, they get takeaways, but
Speaker 1: the chunk plays are there if you go look for
Speaker 1: him every week. So I think that is going to
Speaker 1: be a challenge for them, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: Nick Well, I mean, it's the reason why people went
Speaker 1: with the wildcat, you know, several years ago, and why
Speaker 1: they still do it sometimes today. The quarterback is typically
Speaker 1: unaccounted for, so it's always gonna happen like that. And
Speaker 1: it happens when you're not. You got everyone else covered,
Speaker 1: and then the quarterback beats you. He leaks out. It
Speaker 1: happens with Dak it happens with Daniel Jones, it happens
Speaker 1: with Jeff Driscoll when you played them, or Trabisky, and
Speaker 1: even when you spy Lamar Jackson last year, he still
Speaker 1: you know, burns him and beats him. So the quarterback,
Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback, is always going to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. Darnold did it last week a few times.
Speaker 1: They kind of shored it up a little bit. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to account for that. And
Speaker 1: you know, he is definitely an athletic quarterback. So, um,
Speaker 1: you unless you're gonna spy him, which I don't think
Speaker 1: they will, you have to just make sure he doesn't
Speaker 1: beat you too bad? Can I ask that question because
Speaker 1: I actually I look at Daniels Worth spying. Is Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones the best running quarterback that they faced this year?
Speaker 1: Because they definitely did do that with Jalen Hurts some, Uh,
Speaker 1: they spied him some. So this is this guy in
Speaker 1: the same caliber as as a Jalen Hurts when it
Speaker 1: comes to running the ball to where you should consider
Speaker 1: spying him, at least on specific downs. It's not like
Speaker 1: that's not a bad question. I think Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 1: faster and more dangerous, but like Daniel Jones is right there,
Speaker 1: like he's not productions. He's not sneaky athletic. He's just
Speaker 1: straight up athletic. Um. And I was I was going
Speaker 1: to bring that up because they did. They wound up
Speaker 1: using Jalen in that role. They basically were like, Jalen,
Speaker 1: hang out behind the line and if he runs, just
Speaker 1: tear ass after just go and it kind of worked, honestly.
Speaker 1: That's and that's what we're talking about. When we said
Speaker 1: Jalen was playing better. He just he was able to
Speaker 1: make some of those plays. He kept Hurts from from
Speaker 1: killing you. Yeah, at least Hurts would get two or three,
Speaker 1: but he didn't get ten fifteen Jalen Hurts, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I think he had one kind of long scramble. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, they did a good job with that.
Speaker 1: And so I bring that up because I wonder if
Speaker 1: they do that. I don't think it'll be all the time.
Speaker 1: I can imagine that on third down passing situations or
Speaker 1: you know, long yardage obvious passing situations, and I wonder
Speaker 1: who it'll be. I wonder, um, you know, do you
Speaker 1: do that with Mica. They didn't do it against Hurts.
Speaker 1: With Micah. Maybe that's a place where we see Jabril Cox,
Speaker 1: he's got speed. They're like, hey, we don't trust you
Speaker 1: to do a lot, but just go chase the quarterback
Speaker 1: if it looks like he's breaking contain um. That's that's
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to think that. I bet you they'll
Speaker 1: throw something like that out there. Nick. Yeah, can I
Speaker 1: use the words attack again or is that kind of
Speaker 1: you already did, already used it. It's out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it on T shirts. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one. But
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you've got You've got other guys
Speaker 1: you know coming. I mean I think all season long,
Speaker 1: for the most part, I mean gone of the days
Speaker 1: where the guy just stands back there and and you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't run. And even when when those guys are there,
Speaker 1: like the tom Brady's or the Mannings, you never sacked
Speaker 1: them anyways, they get the ball out. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: most of these guys are athletics, so it's it's got
Speaker 1: to be into the game plan. I mean, nothing I
Speaker 1: don't think is on the schedule, like like what happens
Speaker 1: with Arizona at the end of the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: that guy is playing at a different level. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta think you can. You can't attack him. He's
Speaker 1: playing outstanding. So I just think this is a part
Speaker 1: of the game every single week, and most of the
Speaker 1: times when a guy, a quarterback breaks free, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna fall down at the five yard line. He's probably
Speaker 1: gonna score. So you can't you can't count on that
Speaker 1: happening all the time. It did happen with Daniel Jones, though,
Speaker 1: Dallas is starting to get we're gonna go out to
Speaker 1: the next question, Dallas is starting Derek does not know
Speaker 1: that play. No, I don't. I'm actually I was thinking
Speaker 1: about something else. Sorry, you don't remember, Daniel j Okay,
Speaker 1: I was not thinking. I say week, I knew. I
Speaker 1: was laughing because I was like, we can't go through
Speaker 1: a week of Giants shows without bringing up Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: tripping over to himself. Yeah all right, so there's buddy,
Speaker 1: he can go eighty though, he can, he absolutely can,
Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't trip over down for right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which you don't think he's gonna do more than one
Speaker 1: time anyway. Um, right now, this Cowboys team is getting
Speaker 1: probably as much love nationally as I've seen them get
Speaker 1: in a very, very long time, and some people. I've
Speaker 1: seen some fans saying that this could be a trap
Speaker 1: game for Dallas because they've been playing so well because
Speaker 1: of their record, and they're playing a team that only
Speaker 1: has one victory so far this season. What gives you
Speaker 1: reason to believe Dallas is or is not susceptible to
Speaker 1: buying into the hype that they're receiving right now. I
Speaker 1: just I just don't care. That's their job. They're professional
Speaker 1: football players. That's These types of games always aggravate me
Speaker 1: because fans talk to me and they're like, we can't
Speaker 1: afford to take the Giants lightly. I'm like, it's not
Speaker 1: my job to take the I'm saying, what makes you
Speaker 1: think that, based on what you've seen and heard from
Speaker 1: the team, do you think that they are the type
Speaker 1: of team that may be more susceptible or less susceptible
Speaker 1: to falling for those kinds of things and in believing
Speaker 1: their own hype. I don't worry about it. Which to
Speaker 1: be and it's funny because it does remind me of
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen a little bit. They started off three and
Speaker 1: zero and everybody was all over them, and obviously it
Speaker 1: fell apart. They just did not play consistently well. So
Speaker 1: it's weird for me to say. And a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys were there right, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: team was the same. But it just doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just I trust implicitly Dak Prescott first
Speaker 1: of all, to just not let that happen. I think
Speaker 1: our friend Clarence Hill last week was like the old
Speaker 1: Parcels thing of not eating the cheese, and Dak was like,
Speaker 1: the cheese ain't that good? We're two and one, Like
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you talking about? Why is
Speaker 1: this even a thing? And I buy that. I completely
Speaker 1: buy that they haven't accomplished that much, and I think
Speaker 1: they know it, and I just it is not a
Speaker 1: thing that bothers me. I'll be I'll be shocked if
Speaker 1: they I'm not saying that they can't lose, but I'll
Speaker 1: be shocked if they just play this like ugly terrible game.
Speaker 1: That would surprise me. Nick. I think the trap games
Speaker 1: are really for the fans. I think the fans are
Speaker 1: the ones that are creating traps, maybe fans in media.
Speaker 1: I don't think the players really view it that way.
Speaker 1: I think the fans are like, well, I hope, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope that they don't overlook him it. But I
Speaker 1: think it stems from the fact that they're overlooking them.
Speaker 1: They're thinking that this should be a blowout, and if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't do it, then then that means they
Speaker 1: overlooked them, or you know, that they fell into the
Speaker 1: trap when you're you're failing to remember that division games
Speaker 1: like this are always tough. That offensive coordinator over there
Speaker 1: is gonna bring everything he's got in this game, and
Speaker 1: you can say what you want, Oh good, bring it.
Speaker 1: He's a good offensive coordinator. He has been for a
Speaker 1: long time. Let's just say it like that way, and
Speaker 1: he'll he'll and and he'll you know, he'll he'll bring
Speaker 1: it and so and he did last year where they
Speaker 1: didn't have sae Quon Barkley and Daniel Jones wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as he's playing right now. So I think I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, now, am I gonna pick it overtime?
Speaker 1: Went No, I'm not, But I just I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are that much better. But I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: the media and fans do that all the time, where
Speaker 1: they think this should be a blowout and if it's
Speaker 1: not it's the Cowboys fault when it was their fault
Speaker 1: for for making it you know that big in the
Speaker 1: first place. I guess that Nick just made the point
Speaker 1: that I was trying to make, which is like, really,
Speaker 1: in my eight plus years doing this, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's happened, I'm sure it has, but like, I've never
Speaker 1: been in a week where I was like, man, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like these guys give a damn about this game,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. You just you it's it's such a routine.
Speaker 1: It's such a like, you know, you clean up the
Speaker 1: last game Monday, you take the day off Tuesday, you
Speaker 1: game plan Wednesday, Like it's such a day by day routine,
Speaker 1: and we'd live the same thing, by the way, where
Speaker 1: you almost don't even really have time to think about
Speaker 1: the narratives so much. And I just think I think
Speaker 1: fans and media say that stuff because they're nervous, really
Speaker 1: more so than anything the team's doing. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Let's pick this game. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think it's gonna happen this week? Give me a score.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Nick, I think the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: that much better. I do think it'll be kind of
Speaker 1: a closer game, but not like it was last year.
Speaker 1: I think the offense is rolling to the point where
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna put up some points, put some
Speaker 1: pressure on him. I'd like to see that crowd is
Speaker 1: gonna be I think it'll be a good crowd again.
Speaker 1: Never see a ton of Giants fans on the road.
Speaker 1: I mean they'll be there, but not usually a ton.
Speaker 1: And so I'm going Dallas thirty to fourteen. All right? Nice? Wow, God,
Speaker 1: we're in sync with our picks these these days, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually I look this up this morning. The average score
Speaker 1: of Das wins against the Giants when he's played the
Speaker 1: whole game, so not counting last year. So he I mean,
Speaker 1: he's won six straight since he got swept as a rookie.
Speaker 1: He has not lost in New York since he was
Speaker 1: a rookie. They've been winning those games by an average
Speaker 1: score of thirty to sixteen, so they're averaging multi possession wins.
Speaker 1: And that's even with the season ender, you know, the
Speaker 1: dramatic thirty six thirty five game, So that one, that
Speaker 1: margin offsets a lot of that. What I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is the Cowboys have been blowing these guys out
Speaker 1: for most of Dak's career. Um, I just I think
Speaker 1: they're better. I think they have I think they're better
Speaker 1: everywhere basically. Um, I think they're at home. I think
Speaker 1: that the narrative with Dak's ankle playing them is overblown.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a revenge game, like who's he getting
Speaker 1: revenge against? It's nobody's fault that he got hurt. Um,
Speaker 1: But I do think that he wants to play well
Speaker 1: and kind of when when this game is over, hopefully
Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about the ankle, not ever again,
Speaker 1: but like we don't have to do this weekly, like
Speaker 1: it's just a new obstacle. Like, no, it's over. Um,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play great, and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna win thirty four two seventeen, all right, I actually
Speaker 1: think I actually think it's gonna be a closer game
Speaker 1: than you guys think. Um. I think this h this
Speaker 1: Giants team what I saw last week from them, and
Speaker 1: that that's not to say that New Orleans is a great.
Speaker 1: One thing I do know about New Orleans. Their defense
Speaker 1: still is I think a good defense and they they
Speaker 1: got they got taken to the woodshed last week. I
Speaker 1: mean the way four hundred yards they put a fourhndred
Speaker 1: yards against him. So I made that face because the
Speaker 1: game went to overtime. I don't think you get taken
Speaker 1: of the wood shed if you go to overtime. Well,
Speaker 1: four hundred yards is four hundred yards and that's not
Speaker 1: what I expect to see from a New Orleans Saints defense.
Speaker 1: That's my point. And so I do think this offense
Speaker 1: has some some some some stuff. And I was looking
Speaker 1: at se Quon Barkley like he still had a great
Speaker 1: game on the ground last week. He had a big,
Speaker 1: big game, but it was a pass that he that
Speaker 1: he caught. Um, So I'm I'm looking at this team
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that this is gonna They're gonna score
Speaker 1: some points. I think Dallas will obviously score some points.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas's offense will keep doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But I do think it'll be closer than than than
Speaker 1: weeks than what you guys think it'll be. I think
Speaker 1: the final scores thirty one twenty six, Cowboys get to
Speaker 1: win and uh and we move on to the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. So we we'll see, We'll be out there
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Cowboys take on the Giants at and T
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