WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Time To Pick 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:18.799 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.960 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.280 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.600 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.959 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.479 It is Friday, October eighth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.400 episode number thirty seven. Welcome to the latest edition All 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.240 the Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.360 At the start, you see me and Dave here. Nick 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.959 is joining us remotely today, so you should be able 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.280 to see his mug there as well. Nick, why don't 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:03.120 you jump right in and give us a thirty seven man? Oh, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.959 let's go with James Washington. Here we go. He was 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.399 They called him drive by. I don't think he could 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.080 play in the league the way it is today because 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.880 of the way he hits. But uh that or Matt Johnson, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.440 you know, remember him the Unicorn? Did he didn't he 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.720 knock himself out like he knocked himself out of playing 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.400 hitting good too hard? He did? He? I don't know 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.399 that guy. I think he ever had a hamstring healthy 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:35.039 long enough to knock himself out. No, you're thinking of 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:40.920 Justin Burrio. Here we go Justin Burio about Yeah another safety. Yeah, 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.800 they both played safety. They both looked like each other, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.400 and that neither one of them really turned out to 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.120 be that good. Yeah, right, injury, different kinds of injuries. Hey, Nick, 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.120 I just want you to know, um, shout out, shout 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.080 out to our our website faithful who used the mail 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.640 bag function, because the mailbag is full of people offering 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.320 you suggestions and critiques of the numbers that you choose, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.640 so good. Just want those people you're seen, You're seen 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:16.480 and noticed. Well. I just just so everyone's clear. I've 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.560 said this before. There's the right answer, and then there's 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.880 my answer. So I mean, I know my answer is 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.000 not a number, right. I think it is in thirty seven, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.920 though I can't think of that many other other thirty sevens. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.000 Though I think we're I think we're on the night 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:35.760 track the go ahead. Yeah, No, I can't think of 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.040 a thirty seven around the team right now? Is there? 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.640 Chiquon Hardy? I believe if you count practice squad as 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:48.079 the team, right he's thirty seven and he was one 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.920 two by the way, oh ab yeah yeah, he was 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.520 another safety. Yeah. All right, let's jump right in. We 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.040 gotta we gotta catch up on some injuries and some 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.160 some personnel things before we get to our storylines we 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.200 we always do on Fridays. I'll lay out some storylines 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.960 for you guys and get your opinions on the storylines 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.240 heading into the Cowboys Versus Giants. Let's start first with 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.560 Carlos Watkins. Expectation he's playing this week. Expectation is he's 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.880 playing this week, Let's go, let's go, He'll be back. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.760 Let's talk about Keanuneil a little bit. We haven't really 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.120 talked about him from the standpoint if we know that 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.079 he's back from COVID is one percent because he did 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.360 this was not one of those situations where he tested positive, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.280 didn't really have any symptoms. He said that. He then 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.360 in the interview he had earlier this week, it seemed 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.440 like the way he was talking he kind of felt 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.120 it like he was going through it a bit. So 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.960 what is your concern or what is your expectation with 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.480 regards to how much you expect him to play this week? Yeah, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.040 I mean I don't. I'm sure he's got to deal 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.080 with that, right, I mean, that's a long time to 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.360 be out, and if you were actually feeling the effects 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.040 of COVID, I'm sure that's how on your respiratory system. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.440 But my expectation is that Mike McCarthy called him full go, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.600 and Keanu himself kind of was like, yeah, I'm ready 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.040 to go. I hated missing two games. I'm ready to play. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.840 So I don't know, maybe his snap count is lessened 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.000 a little bit because of that or maybe not. We've seen, 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.480 and I know illnesses are different than injuries, but we've 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.600 seen how many times have we worried about a guy's 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.240 availability and then he plays one hundred percent of the snaps? 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.160 You know, so he was playing seventy five percent before 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.920 he got sick. It seems like a high number in 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.440 your first game back. So maybe a little less, But 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:29.960 my expectation is that he's not not limited. So we'll see, Nick, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.360 you know, I think that, Yeah, I think Jalen Smith's 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.760 release is kind of a domino effect to it that 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.680 you sometimes we have to read between the lines that 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.040 I think, you know, if they felt like he wasn't 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.159 going to be back to normal because because you know, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.520 he plays a lot in the nickel there, Keyan O'Neill does. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.239 So I feel like they wouldn't have made this move 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.200 if they didn't feel like Keyan O'Neill was going to 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.039 come back and be back to his normal self. And 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.600 they have other options as well, but you know, there's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.280 no way to make yourself thin for no reason. Talk 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.599 about Lyle Collins. We mentioned yesterday that he was kind 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.440 of looking at his legal situation with the league. There 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.400 was a bit of a development coming into today. What 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.600 do you guys know about about him? The expectation in 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.840 the building is that he's not That's not a thing 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.520 this week. At least that's that's their expectation. And Mike 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.560 McCarthy even said today like they don't really have a 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.039 plan for that to happen this week, Like there's so 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.200 little time between the game, there's so much uncertainty with 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.160 the legal situation. I think their attitude is like, if 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.400 that happens, that'll be great and we can put something together, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.920 but that's not something that we're even really considering right now. Yeah, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.440 what I did read was that supposedly the judge is 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.320 planning to hear there is a judge who's planning to 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.479 hear his argument today, and so we'll see where that goes. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.960 But even let's just say it happens, and I think 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.960 we talked about this yesterday, even if it happens on 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.080 Friday afternoon, after you've been out since the season opener 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:57.040 September ninth was literally a month ago. So yeah, that 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.640 would that would surprise me. I don't even at this 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.039 late in the week, I wonder if he'd even be active. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.880 I tend to doubt it. I think you just say, 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.080 this is wonderful, and we'll get you. We'll start getting 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.120 you ready for New England. Yeah, so it sounds like 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:15.200 these are really two different things. Go ahead, Nick, Well, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.400 you know, I was just gonna throw I feel like 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.640 it's kind of becoming an elephant in the room a 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:24.880 little bit, because if he comes back, whenever he comes back, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.560 like I know, he's Lyell Collins, but we're just based 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.800 off of the three or four weeks we've seen from 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.920 Lyell when he was preseason and then that first game, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.960 and then what we've seen at a Terrence Steel. I mean, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.359 I think Terrence has actually played better, and maybe I 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.000 am grading off a curve maybe I'm just going off 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:48.080 of of what you know, just what my expectations were, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.560 But it kind of seems like Terrence Steele. I said 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.240 this on the radio this morning. I think he's been 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.720 your third best lineman across the board, behind the Tyrann 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.160 and Zach And I don't know. I mean, are we 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.920 at that road or we needed to discuss this, or 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.159 is just a plug and play as soon as Lyle 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.080 comes back. I mean, I have a tiger head tattooed 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.240 on my arm, so maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm not 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.200 the guy you maybe not the right person, but no, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.400 I'm not even I'm not even close, to be honest 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.080 with you, I don't think so. And I don't think 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.320 it's fair to say Lyle struggled in the preseason and 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.800 then but like like Terence Steele looked like butt in 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.080 the preseason, like we were we spend a lot of 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.520 time like does this team have a swing tackle? Like 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.960 who's what are we doing here? Like in Sky and 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.239 Steele both look awful. So I don't think that's fair. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.760 And I thought Lyle played well against Tampa Bay. I mean, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.280 what Dak got sacked one time in that game, and 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:39.880 I think it came from up the middle. If I 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.400 remember correctly, I might know it was a pursuit play. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.320 Dak was stringing it out and he couldn't get away 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.000 from Barrett. I think, um, I know, I'm not ready 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:54.520 to say that. I think okay, and I I'm not 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.280 sure either, and I and I don't have a red 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:01.680 raider and tattoo at all ever, so I never know that. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.840 I mean, m yeah, every but but I you know, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.800 and not that I There's been some Arkansas players that 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.400 come through here that I'm just kind of like, you know, 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.080 it doesn't work. But um, I just think he's played 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.560 really well and so maybe not right now when he 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.920 comes back, but you know, I do think we're starting 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.960 to look at the right tackle of the future, or 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.000 at least a piece of this line some way. And 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.040 I know that seems weird to say, because he did 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.920 not look good in the preseason, but he has looked 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:34.760 really good in these these last three or four games. Yeah, honestly, Nick, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.319 I think it's a fair conversation to have. I don't 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.760 know that I necessarily am to the point where I'm like, yeah, definitely, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.280 you need you need to stick with steel. I don't 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.000 think it's that, But I do think it's a fair 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.160 conversation because we did talk about how, you know, during 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.480 the preseason I expected more of Lyle, and that was 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.640 basically based on expectations. You know, you're looking at him. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.280 He's a veteran, he's been a really good player for 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.600 the Cowboys. I don't think he was at that level 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.959 during the preseason training camp, and so that's where I 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.080 can kind of understand where the conversation is a fair conversation. 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.280 But I also agree with you, Dave, like you gotta 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.440 give it some time, like those guys did look great 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.800 back then either, and Terrence still is playing really well. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.040 So and by the way, they may be doing some 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.040 things right now to protect steal that they may not 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.360 have to do when Lyle comes back, which may even 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.040 it's weird to say, may even open up this offense 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.840 offense even more so. That's the part where I would 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.520 probably still opt to say Lyle is your guy. But 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.480 I do think it's a fair conversation. And I don't 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.120 I don't mean to crap on Terrence. I think he's 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.480 playing great. I just I'm not ready to I'm not 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.640 ready to have that conversation yet. And I'd just like 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.200 to see Lsu buy a society. I'd like to see 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.560 Lyle have a chance to play like he was out 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.480 all last year. We you know, we we we went 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.360 back and forth about whether they needed to draft a 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.160 tackle and can he stay healthy? What's the deal here? 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.640 And he gets suspended one game into the season. So 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.520 I just, you know, just like to see a chance 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.439 to get to watch the guy play. All right, here's 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.720 what we're gonna do. 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I mean sounds mean, but it kind 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.920 of felt like they were like looking for excuses to 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.000 shoehorn Jalen into it in the first place. In my opinion, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.040 so we I mean we talked about Keyan O'Neill. In 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.160 a perfect world, I think Keyan O'Neill and Micah Parsons 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.160 are your nickel linebackers. Like passing situations, Layton vander esh 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.040 has a role in base. Neil and Mica get the 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.960 predominant amount of the snaps. Now, obviously there are factors there. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.080 Mike is going to see more time at edge at 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.320 least that's what we've seen, that's what we expect, and 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.840 so Layton can help offset that. And then you got 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.319 to see how ready Neil is to just jump right 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:35.560 in right, um, I mean maybe we might. It's possible, Yeah, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.280 it's And you don't make this move, I don't think 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.360 unless Cox is at least part of it. Like you're 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.959 at least kind of intrigued or confident by what you've 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.439 seen from him to this point, I think, and so 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.880 especially in a week where Mica might have to play 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.520 some edge and Keyan O'Neill might not be have his 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.760 win back. Yeah, I mean I think that's something worth considering, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:01.800 at least Nick. Yeah. I mean, I don't think people 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.600 in life don't just cut their hand or burn themselves 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.920 for just from the fun of it. I mean, like 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.440 there's a reason why they don't want to. They don't 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.080 want to hurt themselves by saying, man, let's get him off. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.640 Let's let's figure out how to you know, get him 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.160 off the team. Let's figure out how to how to 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.160 deal with it. I mean, like, I think that they 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.760 felt like he was a progress stopper to probably Jabril 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.000 Cox and maybe to some of the like the safeties, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.120 curse those guys coming back into it and playing some 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.760 nickel or playing Parsons more, or maybe they want to 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.040 do more the pass rush. I just I agree with Dave. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.040 I think they were trying to figure out ways to 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.400 get him in the lineup because of who he is, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.760 and he's been a captain, he's been a pro bowler 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.000 and all his status, but they I don't feel like 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.560 they feel like they're going to be hurt by it, 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.760 or you wouldn't do it. The other thing too. I 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.040 think we've talked about this, but just in case we haven't, 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.360 I think jay Ron Curse is part of this as well. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.280 Maybe not yet because Donovan Wilson's not ready they need 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.600 him to start at safety, But when Donovan Wilson's healthy, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.040 if you want to find ways to get him back 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.280 onto the field, Curse already does a lot of that anyway. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.800 Like if you look in the Nickel situations, he's down 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.000 in the box anyway, He's either shot, he's either over 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.240 the tight end or off just a little bit over 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.320 by the tackle. Like he's down in the box when 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.880 they're in those situations anyway. So and then I've mentioned 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.760 before it seems like they like to use him as 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.840 a dime linebacker and it allows and that's a situation 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.880 and that allows you to use Mica as a pass rusher. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.480 So I think he's part of that as well, and 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.480 that might be how you can get him and Wilson 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.760 onto the field. All right, let's move on to storyline 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.680 number two. We talked earlier this week with Bucky Brooks 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:40.040 about the size of the defensive front for the New 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.480 York Giants. How does Dallas's offensive line, and I'm specifically 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.520 talking about Tyler Battis, who we've seen had some problems 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.800 with big, strong guys in Terrence Steele, how do they 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.520 handle the size and the power of the Giants defensive 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.920 front Dave. Oh, all right, I was gonna. I'm I'm trying. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.040 I'm going back to the old delay, you know, the 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.120 COVID mode. That's why I'm doing name. Okay, it's easier 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.720 for everybody. Um, yeah, I think again. Yeah, I appreciate that. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.760 Um yeah, I mean we talked about Leonard Williams. I 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.000 mean it's it's it's week after week in the NFL, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.000 like this type of stuff is gonna happen. I like 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.920 I said yesterday, I don't worry about the edge so much. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.440 I don't know. I mean maybe that's famous last words, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.840 but I don't worry that there's just this guy they 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.440 can't handle on the edge. Azizo Gelardi is playing in 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.120 his fifth game, and if you have to help steal out, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.280 I'm certainly not worried about Tyrn Smith. You'd all could 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.560 start about Williams lining up out there because he can 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.640 do that. Yeah, I know he definitely can. You're right, Um, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.080 just leaning on past experience and saying, like, if they 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.760 can handle Bosa and some of these other guys, I'm 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.240 sure they can find a way to make it work. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.120 Different kind of player though, absolutely, power is the problem. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.400 The bio. Joey Bosa's everything though, Like I mean, he's yeah, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.520 he's not an easer, but but Leonard Williams is a 0:16:55.560 --> 0:17:00.400 bigger guy anyone. He's a big guy. I just if 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.200 they can handle some of these other fronts that we've seen, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.600 I'm just trusting that they can handle this. That's just 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.119 how I feel. Nick. Yeah, I think when if you 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.000 go back, if they were to play the Buccaneers right now, 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.120 especially with Zack Martin because he wasn't in that game, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.840 I don't think they would have just gone away from 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.240 the inside running and like they did and just went 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.159 for the outside, which kind of made themselves somewhat one dimensional. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.560 I don't think they would do that now, and so 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.440 I don't think if they're not doing it for them, 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.159 I don't think they would do it for the Giants. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.240 He had Leonard Williams a problem. He proved that Week 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:39.800 seventeen last year. But I just and of course tyrant 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.720 lyle Zach, they weren't in that game. I think that 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.120 they'll play it straight up, and I think they'll try 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.760 to run them overpower them, play fast, play the outside, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.560 and just you know, use all the entire field. And 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.120 you know, I know that no guard has ever probably 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.440 won an MVP vote or not that Zack Martin should. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.239 But I don't think if anybody's playing better than he 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.160 is right now on the offensive line, he's just been incredible. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.439 To think he's played three games and if you go 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.480 buy PFF grades, he's been the best in the league 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.120 two of the three games he's been out there all right. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.440 Question number three, Trayvon Diggs is on a record pace 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.240 in interceptions for the club. If the over under were 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.840 set at nine and a half interceptions for the season, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:28.160 which way do you go over under? Dave, I hate this. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.359 We did this on the Start at Night last week, 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.880 and I like, I'm just playing the numbers, like I'm 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.639 not talking trash on Trayvon Diggs, but it's hard to 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.560 get interceptions in the NFL. So but he's got five, 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.560 That's what I'm saying. I like, I it's like, you know, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.000 it's like the gambler's fallacy. Right, You're like, well, it's 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.359 been black four times, it'll surely be read and then 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.520 it's black again, like it's it's it sucks because the numbers, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.159 the numbers say that he can't keep doing this. But 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.240 every time I bet against him, he's proven me. You're 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.840 actually doubled down last So I mean nine, okay, so 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.320 he's got five, he's got five. You said nine and 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.120 a half. I said nine and a half. Over run 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.159 and nine and a a half. So he's gotta get five more. Yea, 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.639 And he's got what eleven more games? No, no, twelve 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.680 more games? Yeah right, yeah, twelve more games. I gotta 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:18.359 go over. That's oh no, waity, how many games? Thirteen 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.480 more games? I can't do math at all, all right, 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.560 thirteen games to get five? Yeah, I gotta go. I 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:29.359 gotta go over. I gotta go over. Okay, man, you 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.760 know what when you when you broke it down that way, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.239 I guess so because I guess I can go with 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.119 the over. I mean that that's just saying double digit interceptions. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.879 That's only happened. I mean, it's only happened with Everson Walls, 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.199 like he had eleven. I mean that's I don't know, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.800 it's hard to say that. I'm asked I'm gonna go under, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.040 I'm gonna go under. I think I feel like eight 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.000 eight to nine is where it's gonna be because it 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.000 is gonna dry up. He's not gonna get as many 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.760 passes his way. Um. But you know I wrote about 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.480 that yesterday. It's a it's a huge dilema for teams. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.040 Now you want to just not throw at him. I mean, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.320 it's more incentive for the Cowboys to put their best 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.959 guy on their best receiver and just say, all right, 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.000 then don't throw at him, because then they'll just take 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.800 away your best player. I am. I'm glad you said 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.240 that though, and I completely agree with everything you just said. 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.879 But something that people have been talking about this week 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.760 that I didn't notice. I mean, I know football, I 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.480 watch film, but I'm not a guru. But like Trayvon 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.240 Diggs is, he's good enough to freelance and create interceptions. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:34.040 Like he jumped the route on that first pick over 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.320 the middle of the field. He left his man because 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.479 he was so confident in what was happening that he 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:40.920