WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Still Need a #1 Wide Receiver? 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:16.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.680 Scramy live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:31.440 the Star in Frisco. Elliott, here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.879 brought us Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. It's a rainy 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.800 Tuesday morning at the Star in Frisco, and this is 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:47.000 Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us Rob Phillips. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.959 As we lead you into Jaguar a week here at 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.520 the Star in Frisco. It's kind of gloomy when it's rainy, 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.960 isn't it. It's really gloomy. It's good for the lakes. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.480 What's the word they use in England. It's a glommy 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.600 or something like that. I'm not gonna weather. I don't 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.600 like this. Guys were experts. We've been to London. We've 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.480 got you we are. I mean, you enjoyed London. But 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.479 we've got a lot of friends over there that probably 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.800 don't use that word glammy, glommy. I don't think our 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.520 friends in England can fill us out. They're listening to 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.760 help out. Jamie right, help us outwer to predict the 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.080 first two minutes of the show. I didn't think we'd 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:32.039 go there. Rain talk Rain, and I've heard gloomy, yeah, England, Yeah, exactly. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.880 I have heard gloomy before. And we're going to take 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.760 the gloom off what we saw on Sunday night, aren't 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.080 we Are we going to move on and we move 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.240 on to Jack a lot of powers. But I don't 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.600 know if I can do that. You watch Monday night 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.760 football as I did. I did too. Drew Brees is incredible. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.480 He is incredible. That's right. He's been a winner every 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.520 level of football, high school and Joe State championship at 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.040 Texas Stadium in nineteen ninety six. It didn't seem that 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.920 long ago, did it, But he's pad hell. He probably 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.320 made perdual, he did. Joe Tilder and him were a 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.280 really good pair together Perdue. You know, it was okay, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.200 and then Drew comes along and they went a lot 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.480 more games, and they should have with him playing, and 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.240 look what he's done, you know with his career. Give 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.320 Sean Payton a lot of credit on this one too. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.880 There was kind of some you know, Sean was starting 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.880 out with the Saints and needed a quarterback, and lo 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.120 and behold there's one sitting on your doorstep that he 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.560 just went out and got and and good for him. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.160 That's what you gotta do. You got to get those 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.960 difference makers like that. Always the story of the Dolphins 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:39.520 headed say yeah, shoulder, shoulder, Yeah, his physical Yeah, they 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.919 failed very much like the doctors in Green Bay failing 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.919 Larry Allen physical. Yeah, I've told that story before. You know, 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.280 if you haven't heard it, that Ron Wolf used to 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.680 remind the doctors every day when we played the Cowboys. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.480 You see that guy over there at number seventy three, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.720 he's going to kill us today. That's the guy you 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.920 failed on physical. So yeah, yep. Well Drew Brees killed 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.160 it again last night. And in case you did miss it, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:12.799 was he became the NFL's career passing yardage leader all time. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.400 And the Redskins, despite a forty three to nineteen loss 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.680 to the Saints last night, still lead your NFC East 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.600 with a two and two record due to a bye 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.080 the week before. That's why to come off a bye 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:30.720 Redskins try, they were ready, they were ready to roll. Gosh, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.720 that was That's just a difficult team to play. We 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.800 all know that. We've we've all seen it. We've all 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.160 seen the Saints where we get thirty eight first downs 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.680 on us one day. Yeah, we've all sat there and 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.560 watched that nightmare to have to deal with, especially when 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.720 they got Ingram back and Chamara roll. That's that's gonna 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.720 be a tough team. Yep, and you're playing that Division two. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.040 In fact, they talk that the Saints might be up 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.320 there giving the Rams a run for their money. Gone 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.800 down the road, we'll see. Now, did I hear this 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.200 right after? Like they he set the record with the 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.920 touchdown pass. It was like sixty two yards or something. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.280 And if it was like it was staged, I mean 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:12.640 they were talking about they show they showed bust the coverage. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.880 They show the Breeze family as they make their way 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:21.120 down on the sideline just prior to that place. Sweet Yes, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.200 And he was thirty five yards away from breaking the record, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.240 and so they wanted to add the family down there 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.320 on the field whenever he did set the record. And 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.039 so when they came back from commercial, they're showing the 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.719 Breeze family as they head down and then there's thirty 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.400 five yards away and it's the very first play there's 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.839 a wide open receiver. It was like it was a 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.440 movie script and it was just staged. It was even 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.920 even the guy, the head of the Pro Football Hall 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.880 of Fame, Dave BA Baker, Babe Ruth, he was down 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.320 already with the gloves by the way, That's what I said. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.480 It's the first sign. I thought they were going to 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.839 hand him the Stanley Cup with those gloves on, like 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.599 the Stanley Cup guy. I mean, why does he have 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.120 to d he ends in the ball? He's got the 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.520 gloves on, is he? No? He had it because they 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.679 gave him the sign. Maybe they didn't want the sign 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.600 to have fingerprints. I I guess. I don't know. Okay, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.920 So I see David Baker there and I said, thinking, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.960 this is the first time a player has been inducted 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.240 into the Hall of Favor during a game. So anyway, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.080 did did I hear this right? Because you know, they 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.680 carried on for a while right before they resumed play. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.560 But when the Saints all went out there to celebrate 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.920 marching in, they gave him a fifteen yard penalty for 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.280 did not. I could have swear they kicked off from 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.160 the twenty. We don't have to guess. We can look 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.640 at ut I heard him say that. Now, maybe I 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.680 maybe something else happened. I don't know what they're going 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.480 to stop the game. I don't they I mean, they 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.760 can't give him a penalty for that, can They are 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.120 excessive celebration when all the team runs out on the field. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.040 I think that's my what it was. And then they 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.200 did the jumping up and down the who's the official 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.840 last night? I'd even see it, didn't notice it was 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.440 the jumping up and down the deal? Well did you 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.760 see that? All? Right? Here you go? Um oh, it 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:20.240 was a penalty on Michael Thomas unsportsmanlike conduct fifteen yards 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.920 in force between downs and then okay, so he must 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.120 have done something. He got in someone's face. He and uh, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.640 he and Josh Norman had an interesting Twitter exchange after 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.200 that game. Basically like he called Thomas, called him out 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.240 and said, yeah, you're a zone corner, get out of here. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.359 You don't play any man carriage and you're not and 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.800 you're not good enough to travel with anybody, basically is 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.120 what he's saying. So we will speculate that he did 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:48.640 something to Josh Norman. Okay, I would speculate, Yes, I 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.320 said they didn't do that. So the result is somebody else, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.719 by the way, that was playing a lot of zone 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.960 on Sunday. Uh, what was Ramsey if you walked Jacksonville. Yeah, 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.040 I get to get on their defense today. I appreciate 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.280 the heads up on that. I was watching the game 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.120 the second half. He was playing five to ten yards 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.520 off the line of scrimmage. You know, they showed at 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:14.000 one point right man the man right coverage, but after 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.240 that he was backing off the whole time. It looked like, 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.960 you know, it looked like seeing how fast Tyreek Hill runs. Yes, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.840 I know I have something to do with that. I 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.120 think we saw it last last year here. But if 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.320 you're gonna challenge verbally before the game, don't be playing 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.840 seven yards off the line of scrimmage. I think he's 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.640 not gonna be playing seven yards this week scrimmage. It's 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.960 gonna it'd be interesting to see when you when we 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.440 study the Jacksonville if they in fact, though, where do 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.960 you put him where? You know? Do you if? Now? 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.080 Some teams will take there what they feel like is 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:52.040 their most challenged receiver challenge meaning ability wise, and they'll 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.160 put him to that side of the field to make 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.760 him have to cover and then you attack everybody else 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.160 say this, but it's I don't made it. So the 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.200 Coupboy's gonna put all their receivers to his side. That's true. No, no, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.240 but but you know, but it's something you have to 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.920 think about. Okay, do you you do? You? It's kind 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.920 of like when it's like teams moving Clowney around? Do 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.560 you do you play Clowney over Tyrn Smith an entire 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.280 game and have him maybe get one or two pressures 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.720 or do you move him around to where he can 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.800 get six or seven pressures? I think that's where you know, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.360 if you're the Cowboys, you have to think, Okay, what's 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.920 the best way to take Jalen Ramsey out of a game? 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.040 Do you do you go ahead and say, Okay, we're 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.679 gonna we're just not gonna challenge his side of the field. Now, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.080 I haven't watched their tapes. I don't know how much. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.959 I don't know how much. Yeah, I don't know how much. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.120 If he travels at all, or if the fact the 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.800 matter is teams are just not challenging him, you know, well, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.000 then if if he's going to do that, then he's 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.839 following Zeke. He's the leading receive. You go, is he 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.640 the leading receiver now? Yes, twenty two catches and then 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.439 if it's not him, it's Beasley. And if it's not Beasley, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.959 then he's on Jeff. Okay, if you were Jacksonville, then 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.400 would you would you put him on Beasley? That's what 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.520 I'm saying, And I was I gotta figure I gotta 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.160 figure out. I gotta figure out if he if he 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.520 goes inside at all. I haven't. I'm again, I haven't. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.120 Mickey's watched far more of Jacksonville than I have. I'm 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.160 gonna get started on this morning. But one thing I 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.000 was going to ask you about Beasley because the all 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.400 twenty two hasn't showed up on the game pass yet. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.079 Did they do something to take away Beasley or were 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.000 there just he just he didn't have a catch till overtime. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.440 Just didn't feel like that he in watching it, though 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.320 they tried. I mean there were things he was trying 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.559 to run routes and they just could you know, first 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.560 first possession that he was wide open on the left side, 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.240 but the play was but the play was a screen 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.360 going the other way. Yeah, it was a straight design. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:41.760 I mean, he could have had him in the flat 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.880 and it would have been a first down. And that 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.760 was really kind of you know, I mean, Beasley, I 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.559 give him credit. He tries, he runs routes. He doesn't 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.199 always get the ball obviously, but yeah, it was they 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.800 were really I think the most disappointing thing about this 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.559 game to me was the fact that they couldn't get 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.800 any traction against the secondary. And and I understand it, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.320 Dak took a ton of hits, you know, I get 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.800 that there was pressure there and you know, but they 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.679 just couldn't really get anything going. And that's really been 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.960 the achilles heel of of the of the Texans is 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.400 that teams have had the ability to make plays on 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.640 them in the secondary. Kind of felt like, going in 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.280 if you could have protected well enough that there were 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.600 some opportunities there and it just didn't materialize like I 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.440 thought it would. And going back and watching it, the 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.880 two plays, two gathers Rico we know him as Rico 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.720 and Jeff James, who's that we're on screens busting busting 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.559 the blitz and that's and later in the game they 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.480 tried doing that, but you know, they were in the 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.120 backfield so quickly Dak had to you know, force the 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.720 ball out quick. They didn't connect there on the Blake 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.960 Jarwin play that you talked about yesterday. They did not 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.319 make them for the blitz. You're right about that, Mick, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.680 just going back and watching it. And the cleanest pocket 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.040 I thought he had was the Deonte Thompson interception. Yeah, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.559 he had all day on that throw, right, And I'm 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.440 not who was on that. I mean, I think he 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.800 could have put a put the ball there better. I 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.199 just you know, Thompson's body position was really really poor. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.360 Did allowed Joseph to get to where he needed to 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.520 be to play off hands. So it's like when he 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.640 hooked back, Yeah, he was too wide the guy get 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.160 inside of Yeah, absolutely, and so there were a lot 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.160 of hands in there, it were, and it was a 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.240 low pass. It wasn't like it was high and it 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.239 was easy to pick off. Yeah. It just it's unfortunate 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.600 that when they when they've had opportunity, something always breaks down. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.839 I mentioned that Jarwin player. I hope everybody had a 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.040 chance to go back and I'll break it down for 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.680 you on the film room today just to show you 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.520 really it was a it was a well designed play. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.600 They they had, they wrapped it during the week and 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.880 they they brought it out at the right time, and 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.880 if they could have just got the block. And what's 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.320 unreally unfortunate is you're All Pro right guard that gave 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.520 up the pressure inside. But she's going against another All 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.120 Pro player, so you got a tip time. Sometimes they 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.520 All Pro player beats the other All Pro player and 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.240 you had an all pro play called, but it doesn't 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.000 get executed because they're All Pro player. And I'm not 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.840 trying to make excuses for anybody, but I mean, you're 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.800 relying on that guy to make that block. They're in 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.600 ninety eight percent of the time, he's going to get 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.040 that block for you. And it just so happens though 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.280 that they they gave up the sack and next thing 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.040 you know, it's like you know, and then they look 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.360 back and you could even tell when we asked Jason 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.200 Garrett about it Yester in the walk off, you know, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.040 he was talking about, Hey, we had an opportunity. We 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.720 just couldn't get the block secured to get the ball 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.320 out to where it needed to be. That's what's you know, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.080 in those games where it's one or two plays going 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.360 either way. I mean, look what happened. They get the 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.040 ball and they have a forty nine yard play on 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.480 an undercut route. You know, I mean, you know, if 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.800 he stays on this hip, maybe it's a catch and 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.000 a tackle for you know, twelve yards. Instead it's a 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.319 it's a huge play. You know. The best thing about 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.120 the Rico thing wasn't the fact, I mean it was great, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.839 it was What was it like about a thirty two 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.120 yard two yards reception? Was the fact that now they've 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.520 showed everybody just because we're in three tight ends. Person, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.040 we're running the football. Yeah, you better watch out because 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.440 it may have looked like a blitz. They had nine 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.160 guys in the box. What else would what did you expect? 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.760 They very rarely, if ever, has that right, So, okay, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.760 watch out because we just might sneak somebody out. All right, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.240 we got off to a little bit of a late 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.560 start due to weather difficulties. Here we into we come 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.080 what a segment? And how about we go to a 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.920 phone call and go to Ray in Fort Worth to 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.120 kick off talking cowboys? Ray, how you doing? Oh? Pretty good? 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.560 You don't sound good? Uh no, I was listening to 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.520 yesterday's show. I agree, A brand brought is get you 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:55.000 gotta go for it. That's a first but uh uh, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.320 you know the second thing. All this, you know all 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.600 the things, I'll the conversation has led to one thing. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.080 This team is just not very good. The general manager 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.760 as constructed. When you when you when you say we're 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.680 gonna play tight end by committee, that's like saying you 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.640 don't have one when you're gonna play wide receiver body committee, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.160 that's like saying you don't really have a legitimate one. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.520 You can't. You can't put so much on a running back. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.800 I believe, I believe Zeke. Maybe it's up by now 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.200 with forty percent of the offense. When this guy is 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.400 taking his tone on this guy, I mean, you can 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.320 say we need a linebacker. Well, the b YU kid 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.120 thanks to the Draft show, best show on the network 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.440 outside the Talking Cowboys, the by the kid from b 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.400 YU who went who went to the forty nine ers? 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.640 I like him just as much. If the guy we 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.080 got he went in the third round. You could have 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.400 taken that wide receiver there. Now you see what he's 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.960 doing in Atlanta. You can't you can't keep going like this. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.360 This is not this is not on the general manager. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.400 This is straight on him. He wants to be the GM. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.240 It's on his title. The gym is not going anywhere 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.080 you want to evaluate Zeke. You gotta, I mean you gotta, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.280 you gotta. You gotta pay the quarterback this side of him. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.760 You're gonna pay the quarterback where you're giving him nothing 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:16.000 to evaluate. I'll give you this. The Rams, the Brown, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.040 the Bears, the Chiefs. What are y'all have in common? 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.680 They have a young quarterback? What have they done? They 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.360 use all those resources to build around him. Now they'll 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.800 be able to evaluate those guys. Now look at that. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.000 What have we done for our quarterback? Gave him nothing? 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.520 How you till you're going to evaluate the quarterback here? 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.800 The next ar so and you're how you're gonna evaluate it. Now, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.920 you're gonna have to pay him franchise quarterback money when 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.760 when he had when he hasn't shown you that he's 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.520 a quarter that he's a franchise quarterback yet, but you 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.200 haven't given him anything. Now the covered this bear behind him. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.960 I wouldn't blame him if he says I need franchise 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.400 quarterback money, because what wasn't I'm gonna do? We got 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.840 nothing behind him. You gotta you gotta banged up Zeke 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.320 that you built this team around. No, we don't need 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:09.280 a uh Dak freely. Dak freely means Woodhi, we don't 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.240 need a number one. Dak said it himself, so he's 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.640 kind of on him. Hey, Ray, Uh, I agree with 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.480 you on Fred Warner, the linebacker from b YU went 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.680 to San Francisco. Third round. Um, so you're you say 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.520 they could have got it like a Ridley in the 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.800 first round and then gotten Warner later? Is that like 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.280 in the second round in the third round to the nine? Right? 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.920 Watch his tea right? Right? No, no, but oh no, no, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.320 I agree with you. I loved Warner, so you you 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.640 would have taken Warner in the second round then, right? 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.560 You proposed that the Cowboys would should have taken like 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.600 a Ridley in the first round in Warner in the 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.720 second round? Is that right? Oh? Ray, thanks for the call. Ray, Well, 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.680 the reason I asked because you would have to take 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.920 him in the second round because your third round pick 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.040 was number eighty one. That's right. I took Gallop and 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.080 Warner went seventy. So just to clarify that, I mean 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.719 they spent a second round. I spent the fiftieth overall 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:11.080 pick on a guard, right, to help this foundation continue. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.560 They built this team around the offensive line and then 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.520 put Zeke around that, and it's not the same offensive line. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.640 We've been saying that. It's just not Why didn't they 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.240 take a center and there you go, because they didn't 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.080 look they didn't know Daniels like James Daniels in the 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.480 first round. But you know what I first round is 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.479 you're gonna have. I appreciate it. I appreciate Ray's passion 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.920 for that, and I appreciate watching the draft show, listening 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.719 to the draft show. The combination of vander esh and 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.600 Gallop is better than taking Ridley and Warner. I'm sorry, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.639 and again Warner, you would have had to take Warner 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.040 in the second's. Yeah, it's a better combination. I mean, 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.000 if you and and and to me, uh, you know, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.720 Michael Gallop is somebody I'm waiting on. Michael Gallup was 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.919 one of my top fifty players. I'll be interested to 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.959 see in three years time that if I was right 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.520 about Michael Gallup, I think he's a much better I 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.560 think it's he's a much better player and it and 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.680 what's happened to him right now is I don't think 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.320 Michael Gallup is a really confident football player right now 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.480 playing you know, he gets one or two targets a game, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.120 and then he makes one or two catches a game. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.479 You know, I think it's hard for him to it 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.520 is a rookie. It's been hard for him to separate. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.800 It's been hard for him to play against contested you know, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.399 and guys learn, I mean, rookie receivers learn as they go. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.240 I was hopeful that he could come in and grow 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.080 and be a difference maker. But the combination of vander 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.440 esch and and and him, I think we'll play will 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.679 pay off long and long term. Nothing against Ridley. I 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.560 think Ridley is in a very great situation with the Falcons. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.199 You've already got a number one wide receivers and you've 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.840 got a quarterback that's a that can really throw the football, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.120 you know, and that's and that's that's a good combination 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.719 I'd like to see. I'd like to see in this 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.359 situation if if they had a more consistent passing game, 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.040 you know, with Michael Gallup, I'm again I'm betting on 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.280 Michael Gallup here, but I'm also I respect that with 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.000 Layton vander esh has come in, we have not these 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.000 are two shows now that we've done or two weeks 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.080 of shows that we have done that we have at least, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.280 I mean how many times we were doing shows last year. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.120 And it was this defense can't play without Shaun Lee. 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.639 This defense cannot function without Shaun Lee. If they have 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.800 to play without Shaun Lee, another game just counted as 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.040 a loss. We haven't had those conversations. And a lot 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.119 of it has to do with the way that Jayalen Smith. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.240 That's another guy that I didn't want, Okay, I wanted 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.600 this guy, Miles Jack that we're gonna you know, but hey, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.840 this way and playing this week, and you could say 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.400 that Jayleen Smith has been a better player than Miles Jack. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.359 You know, say he made the sack he made at 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.920 the end of the half, the sack, the rundown, Yeah, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.159 everything everything. Did you look at two games now and 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.960 and Jayleen Smith back to back games has affected the 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.520 pocket the ways I broke down a play on Dallas 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.720 Cowboys Dot on the last week where they put carry 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.800 On Johnson against the Lions outside and Layton Vanderesh falls 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.800 on the play. If they don't get the sack and 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.879 the pressure and the hit, they're throwing the ball to 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.840 carry on Johnson for a big play down on your 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:22.240 right sideline. So Jalen Smith is coming in and he's done, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.720 and so to say, and with him and Layton Vanderesh, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.160 they are not making me feel like that this defense 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.919 can't can't play without Sean Lee. They're even making me 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.359 think that, Okay, at the end of the season. Again, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.320 I think at the end of the season, when we 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.320 have offseason talk, there's gonna be some discussions about, Okay, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.880 can you now just move on from Sean Lee? You know, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.160 I know it's probably an evil thing to say that, 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.520 but at least they're playing well enough to where you 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.560 could say, this defense no longer needs Shaun Lee at 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.040