1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: the Ford f Series, DJ Bucky here and Buck. We 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: have got a jam pack show. We got a lot 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: to get to. We've got a guess we've got all 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: kinds of things going on today, but we do have 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: a lot going on. We have the Monday Night recap 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about online of the week. We got 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: college football galore, really looking at the quarterbacks. And then 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: our buddy Mike Mayock is going to come on and 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: give us a few thoughts about what he's seeing out 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: there ind of college football world. Yeah' gonna get a 13 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: really specific thought from him to on a BC player Landry, 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: big time edge rusher they've got there that's gonna be 15 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: highlighted this week on NFL dot com. So Mr Mack 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: will join the show and we'll chat some probably some 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: NFL talking there as well with Mike. But Buck, as 18 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: we get started here, I think we gotta jump right 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: into to Monday Night football on what we saw last night. 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: This is the new thing for me this year. I'm 21 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: not watching Monday Night football on TV because I'm going 22 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: to bed early, so I gotta get up here early. 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: But I'm but I'm firing in the tape when I 24 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: get up here, So I don't know what the narrative 25 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: that have been spun on television or what the what 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the big storyline is. I just kind of come in 27 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: blind and then watch the tape. But I'm anxious to 28 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: see just what your takeaway was on the Lions going 29 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: to the Giants and handle their business. With a couple 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: of ways to think about it. We can talk about 31 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the winning team, or we can talk about the losing team. 32 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the losing because the New York 33 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Giants continue to really struggle on offense, and it's kind 34 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: of perplexing based on the amount of talent that they 35 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: have on the outside Odell Beckham, Brandon Marshall, Sterling, Shepard, 36 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram uh Eli Manning, but they struggle because their 37 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: offensive line cannot block anybody up front. Uh. We saw 38 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: them really really struggle containing detroitl lines. Pass Razians had 39 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: three sacks. They knocked Eli Manning around repeatedly, and Eli Manning, 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: once he gets knocked around, was off his game. But 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: we also saw their receivers let him down. Brandon Marshall 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of critical jobs. Odell Beckham had to 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: drop at the end of the game. They are not 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: playing to the expectation and it's disappointing because this is 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: an O and two team and I think many of 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: us expected them to be much much better than that. 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna show this is probably not the 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: best thing to do for an audio show, but I've 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: got to play clipped off. Then. I was watching the 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Giants offense this morning and I just I'm gonna I'm 51 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna just play this for you, Buck, and I want 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: to get your real time reaction. Give me an Eli 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Manning reaction to this secer here. You can go ahead 54 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: and push play on there and then just just give 55 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: me your your real time reaction of what you see here. 56 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, Oh, I mean this is chaos, 57 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: is just like a jail break. Well, but look, I 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: want you to focus on Eli And if you think 59 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: this is a legitimate sack, I'm all for not trying 60 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: to get hurt and live to play another doubt. Gotta 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: get down, you gotta get down? Did he learn that? 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: But here games, I don't know game My thing is, 63 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: if your your offensive line is struggling a little bit, 64 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: you gotta help him out. First of all, the ball 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: is not coming out on time. He's holding the ball 66 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: a bunch. Eric Flowers is getting killed on the left side, 67 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: which is not breaking news. We've known that for a 68 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: long time. Why are you not giving him some help? 69 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's an organizational issue, coaching issue. And then 70 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Eli gets some pressure, gets literally a finger touched him, Bucky, 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: and he slides Latterly, I know when you're Tom Brady 72 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and when you're Big Brother, I get it. Eli is 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: not at that level anymore. Well, he's not a dead level, 74 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: but he's a two time super Bowl chance. Hold up, 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I got I got kids, Bucky that weren't alive when 76 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that that that's been a minute. Let's let's let's show 77 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: a little just a little bit of competitive fight. He 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: was seeing a little bit of ziggy and yeah, no, 79 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: look that they have they have issues, and Elie is 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a part of the problem. I don't think you can 81 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: absolve him that he's got to get the ball out 82 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: of his hand. Oh I think I got to. I 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: think the offense is mismanaged in a couple of different ways. Uh. 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: They were successful in and fifteen really utilizing the short 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: passing game, finding a way to really create these explosive 86 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: players slams and catching rhyn passes UM. The last year 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: or so since Ben McAdoo has been elevated to head coach, 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to really kick start dead offense. 89 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: We're talking about eight straight games where they had twenty 90 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: or fewer points UM. They don't look like an explosive 91 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: offense that can really threaten you down the field. And 92 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: because their offensive line can't protect, it's just a hodgepodge 93 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: of concepts and schemes that are just not getting there. 94 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: And then when you can't run the ball, you can't 95 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: alleviate some of the pressure on Eli. Ben McAdoo has 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: to look at himself and trying to figure out, how 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: can I get this offense on track because right now 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: they are probably the biggest disappointed in the National Football League. 99 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: The story of this game, though, to me, was the 100 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Lion's defense. Without question, there the start of the show, 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: and I'd say the second most impressive thing I saw 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: it was was the Giants defense, even even without generic Jenkins. 103 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: You old Matthew Stafford to a Buck twenty two. You 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: should win a dang football game. I mean, you know, 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: they gave up a hundred and thirty eight yards rushing. 106 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: That okay, that's not great, but under three hundred yards 107 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: total total yards. The defense stepped up and did their 108 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: part for the Giants offense got to help him out 109 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. This Lions team, though it's been 110 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: a long time since we've seen it, day where Matthew 111 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: Stafford didn't have to be at his absolute best. Their 112 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: passing attack didn't have to be a circus you know, 113 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: circus act, high flying act in order to win football games. 114 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: They shown, Hey, we play some defense, run the ball enough, 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: and and get out of there with a road win. 116 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: That's not this is not your uncle's Lions here. I mean, 117 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: it's it's just a different just a different squad. I 118 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: really impressed with the defense. I thought the defense played 119 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: really really well to the good job of uh containing 120 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the the New York John's offense. But then I think 121 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are evolving. They're evolving offensively. They want 122 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: to be a little more balanced team. They want to 123 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: take some of the pressure off Matthew Stafford. We saw 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: them kind of eke out a bit of a running 125 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: game with a mirror Abdullah, and as as long as 126 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: they can play complimentary football with their defense playing lights out, 127 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: it allows them to kind of keep Matthew Stafford from 128 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: having to make those risky throws. He also played well 129 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the things that won't 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: be reflected in the stat sheet his ability to buy time, extent, 131 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: play rumbles, get first down. That's what I'm saying when 132 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: you watch those two things, the hidden yardage. I mean, 133 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford makes a lot of money too. He's pretty 134 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: important to his football team. I don't I don't see 135 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: him sliding backwards. He's also ten years younger. Well, I'm 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: just saying that, look there there their quarterback of the 137 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: future for the Giants may not be on their roster, 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: but they better go find him. He need to find 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: him soon. To try and find him last year. Um So, anyways, 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: that was kind of my takeaways. There a couple of rookies, 141 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: by the way, look good Evan Ingram, nice job. They 142 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: line him. Yeah, he's They snuck him out of the backfield, 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of lined up at fullback, snuck him down the 144 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: pipe and he got a touchdown. Then you can flex 145 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: him all the way out, you can use him in 146 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: the slot. There's really nothing he can't do. So he's 147 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a big weapon for them going forward. And 148 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: then a guy who I had number two on my 149 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: rookie list buck uh before the season started, based off 150 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: preseason Jared Davis flying around has sack looked good man. 151 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: He was all over the place knocking people around. Uh. 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: He's everything that we've heard about, everything that we saw 153 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: on tape when he was at Florida. Uh. Instinctive, Uh, decisive, disruptive, 154 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: does a great job of playing to run and pass. 155 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: He has really become one of one of those unsung 156 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: leaguers on this defense us. One of the reasons why 157 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that the Lions can't continue to kind of 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: keep this this pace and these winds up. You know. Uh. 159 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: One of the things Bucky last night that I did. 160 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if what this says about me or 161 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: how old I am. I went head to pillow at 162 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: seven thirty last night. That sounds like me on Saturday. 163 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: And mind you, I don't drink. Yeah, this is all 164 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: this is all just life, taking us to life and 165 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: being a dad and moving and yeah, we got moving, 166 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: we got oh blucky, we got a couple of different 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: crews in there, ripped out the floor, we got all 168 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: kinds of working. How quick is to flip? How quick? 169 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Two weeks? Two weeks? And as much h G t 170 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: V s as you watch. I'm sure you're screened. Oh yeah, 171 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh yeah, ship lap baby, that's a 172 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: ship lap. I Uh. It's funny though, because somebody actually 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: caught this. I got a text from somebody about the 174 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: new Sunday Night Pod that we're doing, which again I 175 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: think we're you know, the numbers are great on that 176 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: again this week. You guys need to be enjoying it. 177 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for checking that out. Something we wanted 178 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: to do this year. But I got somebody sent me 179 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: a tex said, hey, dud, why are you using your 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: inside voice on the Sunday Night Pod. It's because I'm 181 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: staying at my mother in law's house. I got kids 182 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: upstairs asleep. I can't be loud and boisterous. I just 183 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: gotta I'm just trying to get it in. Man's trying 184 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: to get that pot in. It's dedication. Everybody's asleep. We're 185 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: getting it done, and you're cranking away on a podcast. Um. 186 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I think before we get out of 187 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the NFL here, Bucky, you talked about at the top, 188 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: I think it's that time. I think it's time now 189 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: for the Old Line of the Week presented by the 190 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Ford f series. Buck. I'm gonna give you the floor 191 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: on this one. What what you old line do you 192 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: think deserves the nod this week? Washington Ridskins have to 193 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: get the nod and the Washington Riskins are worthy of 194 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: doing it because I was there into college UM against 195 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the L. A. Rams, and they put on a spectacular performance. 196 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: They dominated and controlled a line of scrimmage. Uh, you're 197 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: talking about being able to rush for over two hundred yards, 198 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: keep your quarterback clean in the pocket. They were able 199 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to really control the game at the line of scrimmage 200 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and against the L. A. Rams team that defensively is 201 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: probably one of the most talented squads. Really impressed by 202 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: the way they kind of knocked them around and play 203 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: big boy football at the point of attack. Yeah to me, Look, 204 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: I look at what they did and taking some of 205 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that pressure off of Kirk Cousins. They're not gonna be 206 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: able to throw it as much as they did last 207 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: They have to be more balanced, have to be more physical, 208 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: and they set the tone up front with their offensive line. 209 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who who shan O'Hara ended up going with. 210 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Do we know who he has this week yet? Not yet. 211 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the uh the article up yet, but 212 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: when uh, when it is up, you can go to 213 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash forward. Yeah, NFL dot com slash forward, 214 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you can check out who Sean uh listed this week. 215 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: He does this each and every week. The uh the 216 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: built Ford Tough offensive Line of the Week's shan O'Hara 217 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: not only a pretty face, but he actually does a 218 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: little writing, so nice. Nice on him. Buck, You want 219 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: to uh, do you want to go to college football 220 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: right now? Hey, let's go right to it. But I mean, 221 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: how could we not want to go to college football 222 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: when we have so many quarterbacks? I mean, we talked 223 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: about this being the year to the quarterback. I feel 224 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: like every week there's so many new guys to introduce 225 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: into the full but you always have to start with 226 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: the big three when it comes to quarterbacks. Sam Donald, 227 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Josh Roseen, Josh Allen. Those are guys that everyone is 228 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: paying attention to. Yeah, no, there are. There are definitely 229 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks a plenty, and we each got a chance to 230 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: look these guys and break them down. So we're gonna 231 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: get into that discussion. But before we do that, I 232 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: need to flashback to last week because I did give 233 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: Sully some homework, and uh, I think we need to 234 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of go back to the origins and where that 235 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: homework came from. Let it go, Let it go, can't 236 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: hold the ball anymore, Let it go. When I welcome 237 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: not know we were singing Frozen on the pod. The 238 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: pressure never bothered me. Anyway, I can do the whole song. Kids, man, 239 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: don't act like you haven't seen that movie. Buck. I 240 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: have seen it, but I have not remembered any of 241 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: the songs. From now on. There's your challenge, Sully. He's 242 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: not gonna I know, Bucky, He's not. This is your challenge. 243 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Bring it this week a college football game. I need 244 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: you to take in something from the college football Saturday, 245 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: and I need you to come up with the Disney 246 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: song that this goes with you is the sign that 247 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: you've ever given. Thank you. I'm not even just gonna 248 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: limit it to animation. If you want to go high 249 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: school musical. Bye. Gala you go high musical. I'm thinking, 250 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: get your head in the game. We can go anywhere 251 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: on this thing. I'm thinking something is gonna come out 252 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: of that Tennessee Florida game that's gonna make me some 253 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: sort of something. So there you have it, so a little. 254 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: I know Bucky is so fired up about this right now. 255 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: He is so excited that you've been tasked with the 256 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: Disney song to somehow wrap it around college football and 257 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: what took place last weekend. And I have a guess 258 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: as a Tennessee graduate that you might be going to 259 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: something that took place at the Swimp. Might might be 260 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: going to a Hail Mary. And unfortunately, how Mary that happened? Um, 261 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: before you start, buck, I was coming back from a 262 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: volleyball tournament. I was listening to the Florida call of 263 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: this at the end, and that guy lost his mind. 264 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah he should have. Yeah he lost I lost 265 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: my mind. It was It was not not bueno. Um. So, also, 266 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: the best undisputed Disney movie of all time, Lion King, 267 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: obviously gonna go go to that. You're going with that, Okay, 268 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: go ahead and go with that. Um. I don't have 269 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: a title for this one. But it's it's in Uh, 270 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: you need some water before you start singing out good, 271 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's it's in the tune of can you 272 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: feel the love tonight? But there's no love for ritch? 273 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: John's okay, go ahead, but can you feel? But he 274 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: eats on your seat? You got beat tugging by the 275 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: same play they ran in fifteen. Why can't you just 276 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: give John Kelly the ball inside the ten? I don't, 277 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but give me a grade. Nailed it 278 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: van on the voice on the voice, I'm not turning 279 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: my chair around. No buzzer, no buzz buzz. I'm not 280 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: trying to compete in the marriage. I'm not fighting Adam 281 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Levin for in that vein because I'm I'm like the 282 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: voice too. I love he does. So give me your coach. Okay, 283 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: he's finished, No, no chair turn. So now you've come 284 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: around and you've got to give him a some advice 285 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: and some encouragement. So go ahead, pretty as a judge, 286 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: take two weeks off. Okay to no no, no, no 287 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: more singing. I feel like I feel like you probably 288 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: should have harmonized a little bit, trying to we're trying 289 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: to pull the rick new New High School here. He 290 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: he loves to do this on on their their full 291 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: ride series Sex sim Show, and and uh I left 292 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: you I guess I let you guys down and let 293 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: him down. He's an accomplished guitarist. Yeah, he's got it. 294 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: He's got a real deal. I feel like if maybe 295 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you had what is it a recorded that we used 296 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: to have something, I feel like you need to play 297 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: something something I played. I did play the banjo growing up, alright, 298 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: but Buck, so because I knew that silly would would 299 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: totally drop the ball in the said teacher. The effort 300 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: was there, like if I turned my chairs were great. 301 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: It was a little wordy. I think it was a 302 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: little worthy. I think I think you got a little 303 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: a little little worthy. Um. But Bucky, because I knew 304 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: this was a chance that I had to come in 305 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: here and step in. Um, I had some stuff prepared. 306 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: And so this is our last. This is the final, 307 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: This is the final Disney songs you'll hear on this podcast. 308 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Man until next week, all right. So he I'm gonna 309 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: take the same song he did, Buck, and I'm gonna 310 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: spin it around a little bit because we had Stanford 311 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: San Diego State and and we'll get to the college picks. 312 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I didn't get any right, but I didn't get this 313 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: one right. Um. But when it came to San Diego State, 314 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: you know what the key, the key to the game 315 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: was can you stop Bryce Love tonight? And they didn't. 316 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Love had a big game, Bucky eighty four, but 317 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't enough. San Diego State still won. Alright. Uh, 318 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: this one, Bucky is just to stick it at at 319 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Silly Here is a tail is old at times song 320 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: as old as rhyme. Florida wins the East. Yeah that day. Yeah, 321 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: I might not have a great singing voice, but it 322 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: sounded better than Silly might. Okay. And then last one, 323 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: this is from our favorite high school musical jam. Um. 324 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: This is a little song called Soaring Flying for those 325 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that that KNOWE at home the ball so in it's flying. 326 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: There's not a dB in position that I can't see. Nope. 327 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: There and then and that was it, So Tennessee. Sorry 328 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: and anybody that has years apologized for that. But yeah, 329 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: that's all I got. And that was that was in 330 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: pretty good Disney karaoke. Yeah that was strong, all right, Black. 331 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Let's get into these Let's get into these quarterbacks. When 332 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: we saw from them last week, why don't you lead 333 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: us off here and pick one and we'll go here, 334 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: we go the star with Sam Donald, and uh, Sam 335 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Donald to me continues to be a very impressive and 336 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: intriguing prospect at the quarterback position. And part of the 337 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: intrigue about him is not necessarily the physical characteristics or 338 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the way that he throws the ball, but more so 339 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: how he plays the game. I think when you look 340 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: at Sam Donald as an evaluator, as uh, maybe a coach, 341 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: you're always looking for a quarterback that gives you a chance. 342 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: And I think Clay Hilton really summed it up after 343 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: the game when he talked to the sideline reporter after 344 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: the game and he said, Sam Donald gives us hope. 345 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: And as a leader of a squad, all you want 346 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: is your quarterback to give you a chance lat in games. 347 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: And so, in spite of all the things that had 348 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: happened early in the game, with thirty seven seconds left 349 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: the ball, no time outs, we had an opportunity to 350 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: see if Sam Donald could lead his team down to 351 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: make a score to put them in a position to 352 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: go to overtime and win the game. And he absolutely 353 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: did it and he did it and splend it fashion 354 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: because to me, he is a guy that plays better 355 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, in two minute situations and clutch 356 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: moments than he does in the early part of the 357 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: game because it allows him to really hone in and 358 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: he lives for those moments. He had no question, and 359 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: I went back and broke this thing down this morning 360 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: and some of the two of these, I would say 361 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: probably two of them were contact drops. In other words, 362 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: hit the receiver in the hands, he got hit, impacted 363 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: by the defender, the ball hit the ground, So I 364 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: wrote him down. His drops would have been difficult catches, 365 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: but the ball was exactly where it needed to be, Bucky. 366 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I charted eight balls the hit USC receivers in the hands. 367 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: They didn't come up with. So Sam Donald ends up 368 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: forty nine for three evan three touchdowns, two picks. One 369 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: of the picks was a perfectly thrown ball that went 370 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: right through Jalen Green's hands. So when you really look 371 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: at this and trying to just it, that could very 372 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: easily been a thirty five or thirty six game with 373 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: close to five yards passing. Yeah, absolutely, I mean I 374 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: think I think you have to look at and that's 375 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: why it's important that people box score scout though, because 376 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: you I got crushed. I got crushed on Twitter because 377 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I said, look to me, you watch what he did 378 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: to bring them back on that drive and some of 379 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the throws that he made, not to mention even the 380 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: throw in overtime with the with the double post. Yes, 381 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Dino Rout hit up just and perfect 382 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: and probably the celebration of the whole weekend that was 383 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: pretty Dante Burnette. But I just and people were saying, 384 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: oh no, I said, he's clearly the top quarterback in 385 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: college Now. One of the things we can't we gotta 386 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: be careful about doing this because you're under class and 387 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: we can't use the term prospect, right. So we talked 388 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: about I just say he's the best player in college football. Well, 389 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: you know our background, you know what I'm viewing him from. 390 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about where this goes from college to the 391 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: next level. And people say, oh, how can you say 392 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: that with Baker Mayfield and look at Oklahoma stating what 393 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: they're doing, blah blah blah blah. I'm like, Okay, we'll see, 394 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: we'll see in April. Yeah, I mean, I mean, we're 395 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: seeing what he's doing with anticipation, timing, accuracy, and then 396 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: in the biggest moments being able to step up and 397 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: make plays. It's the same same clutch gene we saw 398 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: on the Rose Bowl. I mean, I think that's the 399 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: thing about him. He reminds me of the basketball player 400 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: that is always at the park, whose team is always 401 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: on um, winners stay on the court. He he just 402 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: finds a way to do what he needs to do 403 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: to win games. Sometimes is throwing for three fifty four 404 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: hundred yards, other times is scrambling making plays on the run. 405 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, to me, is a guy that just kind 406 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: of has it. He has the sauce and so we 407 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: can pick him apart. And I know when we get 408 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: into the spring and if he comes out we're talking 409 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: about the long line of delivery, will find ways to 410 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: do it. But I think it's important to remember at 411 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, these guys have to play, 412 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and he plays as well as anybody that we've seen 413 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: in recent years at the position. And you gotta love 414 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: what what Helton echoes about him and his demeanor too, 415 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: because when we spoke to him about at PACT Tall 416 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: Media Days, it was after the after a game winning touchdown, 417 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: same demeanor is throwing a pick. He's level headed and 418 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: you gotta love that out of quarterback, he doesn't change 419 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: there all right, Josh rosen buck Um, here's one for you. 420 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: So I when I watched this today, I had him 421 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: compared to Eli Manning. Maybe was because Eli didn't play 422 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: as well last night that I was like, I did 423 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: that one, and I know Rosen had I wrote down 424 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: some reckless throws, a couple of reckless throws with the 425 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: cross body interception and such. But watching him move and 426 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: just how smooth he is. And we're talking about me 427 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: in teaching tape, the way he the way he plays 428 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: a position. Young Carson Palmer, that's who I thought. Maybe 429 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: it was a three that got me, but I just thought, 430 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: you know Carson when he was with Cincinnati, that ball 431 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: just jumps out of his hand. I mean, he's really clean, 432 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: like big, but I can but I can see that, 433 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I can see the Carson Palmer think. I think the 434 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: big thing for me, I'm gonna end up comparing him 435 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: down the road to Ja Color And it has little 436 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: to do with necessarily like his mechanics, and more do 437 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: with how he has to be connected with the coach, 438 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: the play caller, how he may be prone to make 439 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: some of these hero throws that go wayward. But if 440 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: he's right, he is a really really good quarterback and 441 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: upper echelon quarterback, maybe an A level quarterback. It's just 442 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: a matter of getting him to buy into what you 443 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: want him to do within the structure of the system 444 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: and getting him to avoid some of those hero overthrows 445 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: that kind of got him in trouble and we've seen 446 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: him get away with early in the year, but could 447 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: be big interceptions at the next level. Side side story, 448 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: what the heck is wrong with you Cel's defense? Yeah, well, 449 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: Riley Ferguson is pretty good for Memphis. It's pretty good. 450 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: L A should not give up half a Hundy, that's true, 451 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. But Robley Ferguson is a really good quarterback. 452 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Originally started at Tennessee Um, comes from Charlotte. Uh. He's 453 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: a talented player. He finally has his head on straight 454 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: in terms of like dealing with whatever issues he was 455 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: dealing with away from football, but now he deal and 456 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: he was absolutely dealing in a U U c L 457 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: A team that has struggled playing defense against everybody, everybody 458 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 1: all right, Josh Josh Allen buck Man, Josh Allen is 459 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the reason why when you do summer tape as a scout, 460 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you're not married to those grades. Those grades that you 461 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: put in. You put him down in pencil, not pin. 462 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: I think what has kind of hurt Josh Allen? And 463 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know Josh Allen personally, but I do want 464 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: to the pressure from the outside from being considered the 465 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: number one overall prospect, potentially being the number one pick 466 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: in the draft in I wonder if the pressure is 467 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: getting to him because when I saw him play against Oregon, 468 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: I saw a guy that was uncomfortable, a guy that 469 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: was jittery. I gotta didn't necessarily have his wits together, 470 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and he's continued to struggle with his accuracy, his decision making, 471 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: and his ball security. But you can't dispute the tools. 472 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: He's tall, he has great size, he has a great arm, 473 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: he can throw it to every level of the field, 474 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: and he can run. And so the value for him 475 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: will be do you value the production or the potential, 476 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: because potentially he could be the quarterback that you want 477 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: if you clean up the other stuff. But from a 478 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: production standpoint, he certainly hasn't played to the level that 479 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: the other guys that we mentioned as the top two 480 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: have played. Yeah. Look, it's it's interesting when I went 481 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: back and watched it, because there are some of the 482 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: bad some of the really bad plays. He had a 483 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: couple of fumbles. One of them I do only think 484 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: he was contacted. Ball kind of pops up in the air. Um. 485 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: He had a similar to Josh Roseen a hero interception 486 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: where he's scrambling all around, rolling to his left, throws 487 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: it up in the air and gets picked. So you've 488 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: got some of those bad plays. But then I always try, 489 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: and when you're watching this, I always trying and put 490 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: myself in the cockpit here and go, okay, get to 491 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: the top of the drop. And when you're watching tape, 492 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: this is a fun exercise to do. Just wait till 493 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback gets to the top of his drop, meaning 494 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: if it's a three step drop, Once he gets to 495 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: the third step, freeze the tape and see where you 496 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: go with the football. And Bucky, there is nowhere for 497 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: him to go with the ball. I mean there's nothing. 498 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: And then you watch it. They threw a throwback to 499 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: him and he caught it and kind of make somebody 500 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: miss and did something. Then I see him, you know, 501 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: I said, he's I think he's their best receiver, their 502 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: best running back, and their best quarterback. I mean that's 503 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm not making a joke like I really think he's 504 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: their best athlete on to right now though, No, they're 505 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: doing a nice job. But I'm just telling you they 506 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: they and I don't know if it's those just hideously 507 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: ugly uniforms or what. You don't you don't like brown, 508 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't like it any yellow. I am gonna go. 509 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go call their game at the end of 510 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: the month. Though it makes us to see up close 511 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: for myself and see what they look like. But they 512 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: look slow? Man? Did they look slow? And I start 513 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: thinking about the tight end was with the Patriots, right 514 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: that did a nice job in the preseason running Brian Hill. 515 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Brian Hill was a running back to came out. They 516 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: had a couple offensive linemen that's stuck. There might just 517 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: not be anybody up there now. They don't have anybody. 518 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: One of our researchers, Chris McNeil, played it on me, 519 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: so he's really plugged into the program, and he said 520 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: he has absolutely nothing to play with nothing, the throw 521 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: to no nobody that can be a credible threat on 522 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: the perimeter. The bigger thing when it comes from a 523 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: narrative standpoint, every opportunity that he's had to play a 524 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: big those numbers are gonna look bad. Those numbers are bad. 525 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: One touchdown, eight interceptions, under six uh completion rate. It's 526 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: going to be hard, I think, to justify putting a 527 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: big raid on him outside of like the highway speed 528 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: arm talent characteristics, because he has not played like a 529 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: number one pick and it's gonna be a unique evaluation. 530 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: One of the things I actually wanted to look into 531 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: this and find out. I don't know the answered. I 532 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: think he's a is he what is he is? A 533 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: Richard sophomore? Richard Jr? I think so? I know obviously no, No, 534 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: he was eligible last year, so he has to be 535 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: a red shirt jr. Because he was a red shirt 536 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: sophomore last year. So he's he's a or yeah, because 537 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: he was eligible for the draft last year. It's a 538 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: redshirt sophomore, So he's a red shirt junior. Now, Um, 539 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: if he's got the classes to graduate, because my point 540 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: being somewhere, no, no no, no, no, no, no. If he 541 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: could play in this if you play an All Star Game, 542 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: if if he could, if he could have his degree, 543 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: he'd be eligible to play in the Senior Bowl. And 544 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Senior Bowl would love to have him. 545 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: And then if you're Josh Allen, you get that week 546 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: to play with talent and and show what you we know, 547 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: the skill set is what it is. But if he's 548 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: out there with guys and you saw him have a 549 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: big week, Bucky could be one of those deals where 550 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: wherever you had him pegged a big week at an 551 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: All Star Game, well, particularly up there, especially depends on 552 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: who's around. If so, if you plug him into the 553 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: group last year, his own compared to that's what I'm saying. 554 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: You stack him up with all these guys, it's not 555 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: even gonna be close. It looks like a different animal. 556 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: He looks like. Now, That's what I'm saying. So that's 557 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: something that's a little underrated storyline there. See, if he 558 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: is a Instagram you have to graduate in order b schedule. 559 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: They have Hawaii this week, Texas State. I'll be up. 560 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm on the call for Texas State. Don't you shake 561 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: your head? Hey no, my cousin played quarterback at Texas State. 562 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm not shaking tis. Where's Texas State? Give me a mascot, 563 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: Give me a mascot. Texas Bobcats, Bobcats, I think so 564 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: yeah what colors? Um their maroon and maybe some gold trim. 565 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Um. I don't really think of the only 566 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: run with Bobcats for some reason, right, I don't. I 567 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: guess the Boise Boise State game or the twenty one October. 568 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the next big test. He's bringing a 569 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: knife to a gunfight. Man. Um. Anyways, it'll be interesting 570 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: to attract them now, I do. Uh. I do have 571 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: some other tape I need to get to that I 572 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: haven't got to yet based off this college week, namely, 573 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I need to get to some Oklahoma State tape because 574 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: I got a text. Actually, let me pull that up book. 575 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. Have you looked at him five five touchdowns 576 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: in the first half. I've looked at him, and I 577 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: looked at him before and when I looked at him 578 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: over the summer. Uh saw, I got he. I mean, 579 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: he's perfect for this system. He gets the ball out. 580 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: But understand he is playing with some real playmakers on 581 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: the outside. That's that's the best wide receiver group in 582 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: the country. Here's the text I got from somebody. Uh, 583 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: from from a personnel guy. Let's see here, Come on, 584 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: come on now, where is it going? What Jalen McCleskey 585 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: is your third wide receiver? No, they got a good group. 586 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: Uh this is white kids should stay in school. Mason 587 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: Rudolph last year had accuracy troubles, especially underneath. He was 588 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: a one read guy. This season showing great pocket presents. 589 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: Accuracy has much improved. Deep ball has been excellent. He's 590 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: going through his progressions. I know it's not great comp 591 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Tulsa South Alabama pit, but he's showing me things I 592 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't think he had. So he's getting a little getting 593 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: love on this, getting little bump. You know, where did 594 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: those guys fall into the Luke fawks the Mason Rudolph's 595 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: uh to a lesser extint Baker Mayfield? Where where? Where 596 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: where do we pick those guys? Are those guys second 597 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: and third? Luke fall kind of bounce back week after 598 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: getting kind of benched and dinged up a little bit, 599 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: you pull out, came back, responded, big, big game, A 600 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of testdowns. Yeah, no kidding, um all right, let's 601 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: get to these This is painful, golly freaking picks. I 602 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: suck at these picks. But you joined me in last place, Bucky, 603 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. The story of the week 604 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: last week four lone wolves. Can't hit on two of them, 605 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: can'ts on fire on fire. He's leading the way with 606 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: twenty two wins and eleven losses. But he hit on 607 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: the uh Atlampis Mississippi State game and the Memphis U 608 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: c l A game. Uh, you obviously hit on the 609 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: San Diego State game. That was nice, lone wolf in it. 610 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: And I hit on Countell, miss Yeah. Man, how bad 611 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: is SEC by the way, Bama and everybody else? Yeah, 612 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of middle of the road teams. 613 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: Better quarterback play though, College Vanda Belt really College Shermant. 614 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt definitely is taking a step four Kansas State Mississippi State. Yeah, Fitzgerald, Uh, 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: definitely stepping forward there. So and uh you got the 616 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: ore the Mizoo kid too. That's pretty good. Their team 617 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: stinks that they're bad, ye lu quarterback down at a 618 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: quarterback Drew Lock is going to be an interesting in 619 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: evaluation because Drew Lock is super talented Drew lock is 620 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: talented and kind of close in the same range as 621 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The problem is they're a bad team and 622 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: the system doesn't highlight what he necessarily does. It'll be 623 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: interesting how people going there and what they come away 624 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: with in terms of how they view him and how 625 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: they project him. Yeah. No, look, it's I still I mean, 626 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: it's not to the point with me where it's like 627 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: it is anybody gonna beat Alabama's say, we're gonna be 628 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: with in the SEC, gonna give him a game now, 629 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: like we're gonna be in the fourth quarter of a 630 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: game at all this year with them. Everybody was circling 631 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: that l s U game first weeks in November. Not 632 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: anymore after your last weekend, maybe old Miss, maybe well 633 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: this can't beat cal Yeah, Auburn philliparts early. Yeah, big 634 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: school points, you're not afraid. I think point. I think 635 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: I think everybody's sleeping on that Auburn team that's going 636 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: into Clemson. Tough, tough front seven to deal with, and they, 637 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they just couldn't protect. Uh, couldn't project. Have 638 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: you looked at Harold Landry yet from Boston College him? 639 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: He's fun to watch. I think he's the best pass 640 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: rusher in the draft. His first step quickness is amazing. 641 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because it's time to bring 642 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: in Mr Mayock. Mike Mayock making I think this is 643 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: maiden voyage on the Move the Sticks podcast. Uh, gonna 644 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: welcome him and see if we can't talk about somebody 645 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: he knows quite well from his Boston College roots. All right, Buck, 646 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: we pulled it off. We got we got Mike Mayock 647 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: joining the show right now. And and Mike, we want 648 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: to jump into Harold Landry from Boston College and and 649 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: digging on him a little bit. But before we get 650 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: to him, just big picture wise NFL so far, a 651 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks into the season, what jumps out to you? Boy? 652 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, I mean on the negative side, Cincinnati at 653 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: all too? Um, you know they can't score on anybody, obviously, 654 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: It's it's rare to see an offensive coordinator fired two 655 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: weeks in the season. Uh. And you wonder whether or 656 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: not Cincinnati can can scrape their way back into playoffs contention, 657 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: and Dalton has been a different looking quarterback. Um, you know, 658 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the l A Chargers. They lose 659 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: by a field goal against Denver and had a field 660 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: goal blocked that game. They come back this past Sunday 661 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: and miss a game winning field goal. So they're all 662 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: in two and they competed and played pretty well. But 663 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: they're in the best division in football. So are they 664 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: buried at this point? Because there are oh and two 665 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I did the Dallas game a couple 666 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: of weeks ago and they thoroughly dominated the Giants and 667 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: then they got bombed by Denver. So it's early in 668 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: the year and it's it's way too early to say 669 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: this team can't make the playoffs. But many I've been 670 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: very surprised by the poor playoff some teams. Yeah, I 671 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: haven't surprised by the poor play as well. But what 672 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: has been, uh, we can be a little more optimistic. 673 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: What has been on the positive side? What did you like? 674 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I think that a f C West is going to 675 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: be the best division in football. Um, you know, between Denver, 676 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and Oakland. If you say, if you make 677 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: a statement box that says, okay, to be a Super 678 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: Bowl contender, you've got to have a quarterback and a defense. Um. 679 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, Kansas City Alex Smith is playing really well 680 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and that defense is better than people understand. They've been 681 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: really good for the last several years. Oakland's defense is 682 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: getting better, and they've got one of the best young 683 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks a football and car and then this Trevor Simeon, 684 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, steps and round pick Um looks very confident 685 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: and again they've got a big time defense. So I'm 686 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: really intrigued by that. A f C West and they're 687 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: gonna beat each other up a little bit, but at 688 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: the end of the year, I think we're gonna be 689 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: talking a lot about those teams. One of the guys 690 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: who's playing right, Mike, just looking at that Denver front 691 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: the other day and watching them on tape against uh 692 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, Adam Gotsis. Man, that's one of those 693 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: ones where you put a big grade on him and 694 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: then just kind of waiting and waiting and waiting, and man, 695 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's coming in. He is playing great right 696 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: now with him on one side, Wolf on the other, 697 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: and Peco in the middle. That's so that's a good 698 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: look in front they've got there in Denver. Yeah, that 699 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: that gots This kid is really interesting because you know, 700 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: he had some injuries at Georgia Tech and some people 701 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: were falling off the radar as they looked at him. 702 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: But he's a big, thick, dominant type kid, and that 703 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: entire front is playing well. And really, guys, when you 704 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: look at some of the tape around the league, the 705 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: defense is like Philadelphia's defensive has been dominant, and I 706 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: do their preseason and I kind of felt like they 707 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: would be dominant. Put the flip side to it is 708 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: how bad are some of these offensive line? And you 709 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: know what, it's kind of I think we're getting the 710 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: point where college football, and all three of us evaluate 711 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: college tape, where you know, left tackles that don't put 712 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: their hands in the dirt, don't have any kind of 713 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: sophisticated pass pro don't have any kind of idea of 714 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: pass protections are taken longer and longer to develop, whereas 715 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: you can take a Harold Landry or or one of 716 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: those guys and he's immediately an impact player, worst case 717 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: as a situational path rusher. So it's really kind of 718 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: an interesting conversation the way the college game has changed 719 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: the way the NFL game has been played. Yeah, I've tried. 720 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: I've made a rule, Mike, I've made a rule, and 721 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: I continue to break it all the time. But I 722 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: always say offensive lineman, don't get carried away overvalue athleticism 723 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: and don't ever undervalue toughness, um and intelligence there because man, 724 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: every time I get too excited about an athlete, he 725 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: just needs to develop. Well, you can't do it anymore. 726 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: It's hard. There's not enough time to develop those guys. 727 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: They don't have any experience in it, and they don't 728 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: have the time to get it done. So uh, safe, 729 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: insure and solid. I think it's probably a better way 730 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: to go there. But you mentioned Harold Landry for a second, 731 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: let's jump into him, Mike, Harold Landry from Boston College. 732 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: For those who don't know NFL dot com, they're doing 733 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: a feature once a week. I wanted the top college 734 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: football players. This week it's Harold Landry from your school BC. Mike, 735 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: why don't you tell the folks about him a little bit? Well, 736 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: he was thinking about coming out last year as a junior, 737 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: and BC had asked me to watch some tape and 738 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: give them an unbiased opinion, which I did, and I 739 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: talked to three or four teams, and I was in 740 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: the same ballpark with him, and and basically, uh, if 741 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: you watch his Florida State tape from last year. You 742 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: know that's his signature tape. He had two sacks, he 743 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: had two tackles for loss. He made every play. Uh 744 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: he was too fast for the right tackle. He here's 745 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: what I think he is. DJ six three, two fifty UM. 746 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: He's really athletic. He's got good off get off. He 747 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: bends very naturally. He bends almost like Barnett from Philadelphia. 748 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: But he's a better athlete than Barnett um. And he's 749 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: going to have to develop a little bit more speed 750 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: to power like most of these guys. But at two 751 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds, you can see him disengage in the 752 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: run game when he has to. Love to see him 753 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: get more consistent in the point of attack run game. 754 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: But everything you see from this kid's screams first round 755 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: edge rusher. I was at the Boston College Notre Dame 756 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: game this weekend, and guys, you should have You should 757 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: have seen how Notre Dame game plan, how old Landry 758 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: not done. All American left guard Nelson and All American 759 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: left tackle McGlinchey, who might both be first round picks, 760 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: and every time Landry was lined up to that side, 761 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: the offensive left side, they fan protection, slid protection towards 762 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Landry so that all McGlinchey had to worry about was 763 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: outside the and he had the All American Nelson inside him. 764 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: And when Landry went to the other side, the offensive 765 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: right side, they had right tackle a side in and 766 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: sometimes they're running back. So Notre Dame's entire game plan 767 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: was predicated on this kid. And at the end of 768 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: the year, guys, we're not going to see the kind 769 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: of numbers he had last year sixteen and a half stacks, 770 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: seven fourth bumbles, because everybody's the planning this kid, but 771 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: he's totally legit, and we're gonna spend a ton of 772 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: time talking about him leading up into people. You know, 773 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: it's funny that you talk about that guy commanding that 774 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of respect, because in my estimation, I think you're 775 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: elite or premier pass rushers should command that kind of attention. 776 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: And looking at how he had to handle Notre Dame 777 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: sliding all that protection to him, did you come away 778 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: more impressed with his ability to continue to fight knowing 779 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: that so many things were in his way before he 780 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback and Buck. That's a great question, 781 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: because that's one of the conversations I had with some 782 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: people around the BC program after he decided to state 783 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: in school, and the point was that every team they 784 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: play was gonna game plan him, and the kid had 785 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: to go into the year with the right mental framework, like, Okay, 786 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: this is gonna be harder than ever. I'm gonna get 787 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: every team's best shot. I'm gonna be double and triple teams. 788 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: But I need to understand I've got to handle it 789 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: the right way, and I've gotta learned how to go 790 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: speed the power. I've gotta learned how a spin move. 791 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: I gotta come up and under with a different kind 792 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: of look. I've got to continue to fight and work 793 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: at everything and trust that the pro scouts will understand that. 794 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: And they will. And the good thing for Boston College 795 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: is that the more he does of that, obviously, the 796 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: easier it is for the other ten players. But so far, 797 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: prot I think his attitude has been outstanding and and 798 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: it's got to stay that way. I'll look him back 799 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: through some of my notes, Mike, you mentioned that f 800 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: SU game, and I had just a little nugget in 801 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: there about watching him suck up Dalvin Cook from the 802 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: back side that they didn't account for him, and dude, 803 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: he can go when he's on the back side coming 804 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: down the line of screaming that dude can fly. He's 805 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: a great athlete. And if you put on the Maryland game, 806 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: which was their bowl game, not only did he have 807 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: an interception and two sacks, but he also had two 808 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: pass deflections at the line of scrimmage where he realized 809 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna get home. And you know that interception 810 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: was was a quick game. It was tackle cut locking 811 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: him him understanding that there was a slant coming in 812 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: behind him. He gets in the line of the ticks 813 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: it off, which was just a tremendous play. Then he 814 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: knocks down to other paths with the same kind of 815 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: understanding of offensive concepts. Okay, I'm not getting home. It 816 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: looks like quick game where the quarterback's eyes and how 817 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: do I get under it? Now, he's he's impressive. He's 818 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a phone to watch as we go through 819 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: the whole process. Mike, for those who don't know, Mike 820 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: is such a good dude. I'm gonna tell a little 821 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: story here, Mike. Don't get mad at me, but I've 822 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: gotten a chance this year. We've talked about it a 823 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: little bit on on the podcast. Got a chance to 824 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: start calling some games, which I've been wanting to do, Buck, 825 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: So I called Mike up the other day and just said, hey, Man, 826 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: any any advice. Mike spent a good fifty minutes with 827 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: me on the phone and just gave me such great advice. 828 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Um going through this new chapter and trying to to 829 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: do something different here, and uh, Mike, I I told you, 830 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate I really do, man. I took notes on that, 831 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: and I've got I've got a barn burner, baby. We've 832 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: got San Jose State, Utah State this week. Man, and 833 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm putting all these tips into motion here. Just understand 834 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: that I've been fired by just about every legit network. 835 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: That's all right. I seen a couple of checks before 836 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: they fire me, Mike. That's all good. That's all good. Hey, Mike, 837 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much. No, you're busy man, taking some 838 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: time out to chat with us and give us little 839 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: insight there on Harold Landry. Man, I really appreciate it. Yeah, 840 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: you guys do a great job. Thanks. Great to catch 841 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: up with Mike. Uh Man. Mike's busy, Buck, He's all 842 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: over the place. And it's it's good to catch up 843 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: with him on a BC stud as well as some 844 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: other happenings around the football world. Yeah. Absolutely, Mike brings 845 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: a unique perspective. But now he's being challenged maybe as 846 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: the best athlete to come out of BC. Oh, Harold 847 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: lind you may take that time. May because a captain 848 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: of the baseball team. Man, he's Mr BC, Mr BC, 849 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: Mr Mr BCS is right. All right. Hey, that was 850 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: a fun episode today. Got a lot in some Monday 851 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: night football recap the offensive line of the week, had 852 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: some fun listening to silly sing Wow. Maybe not fun, 853 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: but it was intriguing. It was intriguing. Uh podcasting, Yeah 854 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: that works. Hey, I'm not closing the door on you, pal, 855 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: good Bucky has but um so anyways, that's that's to 856 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: do it for us today. Another podcast coming up with 857 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: just a couple of days. I love this three podcast 858 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: a week thing. Man. We just always it's just we're 859 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: not a part very long. We're always right back at 860 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: it and we'll get something good for you there. I 861 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys listening. Please tell a friend if you can. 862 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: We'll continue to grow this thing. And if you haven't already, 863 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: do us a huge favor and leave us a review 864 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: on iTunes. We appreciate those. Until next time, d J 865 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: Bucky here for Move the Six presented by the fourd 866 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: F Series. We'll catch you later. Thanks for downloading Move 867 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, 868 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts