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Speaker 2: What's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: last night. Someone was really bad last night. That's on

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Speaker 3: How does the voice sound?

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Speaker 2: Huh? Just break it down?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, swall frog with what's going on?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Every now and then on a Saturday, I try to

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Speaker 3: eat frog legs and it goes down the wrong pipe

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Speaker 3: and here we are.

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Speaker 5: You know you sound gorgeous to me. Yeah, I'm still

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Speaker 5: enamored by the sweet dulcin tones.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that really honestly, feel good, not like a

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Speaker 4: gravel road at all. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of.

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Speaker 1: Those country back round.

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Speaker 3: I always liked the dude with the baritone voice and

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Speaker 3: boys to men. You know, maybe I could I could

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Speaker 3: lost today?

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Speaker 2: Classic? Yeah, yeah, great, great, song right there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Devin Booker was awesome last night for the Suns.

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Speaker 3: James Harden, the Beard not so much for the seventy

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Speaker 3: six ers. How about Booker forty seven points. He was

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Speaker 3: twenty of twenty five from the field. It sprinkled in

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Speaker 3: six rebounds and nine assists. Just you know, yeah, throw

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Speaker 3: it in there. Uh, the Sun's got to win. Denver

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Speaker 3: still leads the series to one, but Booker was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: James Harden struggled. He was three for fourteen from the field,

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Speaker 3: only scored sixteen points in the previous game. Game two,

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Speaker 3: he was two for fourteen from the field. So the

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Speaker 3: last two games James Harden has really really struggled. I'm

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Speaker 3: just throwing stats at you all over the place. Eighteen

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Speaker 3: percent from the field the last two games for the Beard.

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Speaker 3: Not what you want to see right here as Philly

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Speaker 3: they go down to one in the series as Boston

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Speaker 3: won last night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean what we're talking about

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Speaker 4: is the difference between an emerging star and a falling star.

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Speaker 4: You know, James Harden, this isn't twenty fifteen's postseason, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, if we rewound the clock

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Speaker 4: I mean, there were very few guys in the NBA

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Speaker 4: who I mean I remember that season or seasons around

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Speaker 4: that season, you know, in the middle of the teams

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Speaker 4: here where James Harden was one of the most devastating

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Speaker 4: guards to play against, because when he elevated to hit

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Speaker 4: a three, he was fouled like fifty percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like the guy he just figured out a

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Speaker 4: cheap code like. I mean, that's that's the type of

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Speaker 4: player he is. He was, or I should say he was.

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Speaker 4: He was this incredible offensive threat that that team that

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Speaker 4: he played for, the Rockets, I mean, they were part

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Speaker 4: of this new era of the NBA that has created

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Speaker 4: the perimeter shot, and everybody kind of was frustrated with it.

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Speaker 4: Houston was that that they were that team. Well, it's

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Speaker 4: all different now. I mean, obviously he's been on two teams.

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Speaker 4: Since he's been he's been called a lot of different things.

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Speaker 4: I think in this situation, in this iteration of his

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Speaker 4: career with the Sixers, he's now being referred to as

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Speaker 4: a veteran leader. Uh And in Game one it looked

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Speaker 4: exactly like that. But Devin Booker, this is this is

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Speaker 4: what we the things that we're saying about Devin Booker, Now,

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Speaker 4: we were saying about James Harden seven years ago, eight

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Speaker 4: years ago. But this is what it looks like. You know,

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Speaker 4: when when you start to age in this game, you

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Speaker 4: know you can't be relied on consistently in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Booker's he's that guy. Now, he's He's going to be

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Speaker 4: that guy for a long time. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: a problem for opponents facing the Suns, and it's fun

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Speaker 4: to watch. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: Definitely a bit of a situational discrepancy between those two games.

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Speaker 5: Last night, right Philly had already stolen a game in Boston,

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Speaker 5: they were coming back home and Beid was getting the

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Speaker 5: MVP Award.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was emotional.

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Speaker 5: And it was all business for Phoenix because they were

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Speaker 5: down two to zero in the series. So I do

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Speaker 5: think as much as last night really showed, and I

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Speaker 5: agree with your your take completely, Rich, I think you know,

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Speaker 5: Devin Booker's got seven years to the junior on James Harden,

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Speaker 5: and in the NBA, that's the difference between being in

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Speaker 5: your prime and being slightly past your prime. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: James would dispute that, but the numbers say he's been

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Speaker 5: a little inconsistent this year, But I really think last

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Speaker 5: night those two games very much played out the way

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Speaker 5: the situations called for. Boston needed to steal a game

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Speaker 5: in Philly, they did. Phoenix had to win last night

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Speaker 5: or the series was over. They did, right. We Like

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Speaker 5: a lot of times those situations are baked into the narratives,

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Speaker 5: they're baked into the betting lines, but last night they

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Speaker 5: played out pretty much exactly as the narratives kind of speak.

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Speaker 5: And again, Boston had to win a game in Philly

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Speaker 5: in order to keep the series alive. Phoenix had to

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Speaker 5: win last night to keep any hope of winning this

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Speaker 5: series alive. I still think Denver wins the series, but

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Speaker 5: it really was do or die kind of not really

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Speaker 5: for Boston but definitely for Phoenix, and both teams kind

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Speaker 5: of delivered. I give Boston's defensive mindset a lot of

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Speaker 5: credit to anytime you get a situation where you're on

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Speaker 5: hungry like Philly is, and they shut them down. They

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Speaker 5: able to win that game and win it pretty handily.

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Speaker 5: And I do think Boston's the better team in that series.

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Speaker 5: I think Denver's the better team top to bottom two

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Speaker 5: those two teams will both likely advance.

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Speaker 3: Man it's a crazy stat with Harden. So Harden, he

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Speaker 3: now has ten career playoff games in which he shot

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Speaker 3: less than twenty percent from the field on ten or

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Speaker 3: more attempts, and that's the most since the shot clock

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Speaker 3: that what's crazy as last night to it, he almost

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Speaker 2: He was twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Percent, so he barely barely missed out on another notch

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Speaker 3: on a belt that you want no part of right there.

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Speaker 3: So it was a rough night for him last night,

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Speaker 3: and obviously a rougher Game two on the heels of

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Speaker 3: of a difference there has been with James Harden. And

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Speaker 3: the other thing is this, you talk about doing some

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Speaker 3: him some game worn shoes. He facetimed the kid. He

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Speaker 3: said that when he's healthy enough, he'll get him to

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Speaker 3: a game. Well, that kid has been he's been discharged

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Speaker 3: four in Philly on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And it's like wow.

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Speaker 3: You know, it puts things in perspective. But I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: in just the category of sports, he's got to be better.

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Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with saying he's got to be better.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be uncivilized and dirty to just

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Speaker 2: But he's got to be better. He'd be the first

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Speaker 3: But him doing something that's very, very thoughtful and humanly

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, just because he's an aging star

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that you have to make it personal. I mean,

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Speaker 4: James Harden could be a great person and he could

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Speaker 4: be a fading talent in the NBA in terms of

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Speaker 4: the expectations we place on him. You know, there are

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Speaker 4: certain players who they're gonna stay too long at the party.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're they're not gonna want to be a

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Speaker 4: worse teams. You know, Harden's still in that camp where

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Speaker 4: you're gonna find teams two are gonna want him in

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Speaker 4: their starting five because of his presence, because of the

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Speaker 4: games that he's played in in years past, because of

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Speaker 4: how he can teach and how he can motivate, and

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Speaker 4: then also how he can play some nights. You just

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Speaker 4: mentioned in game one, he looked outrageous, but these past

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Speaker 4: I'll say is, look, Steph Curry can have a two

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Speaker 4: game stretch like this. I mean, really, I threw Lebron's

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Speaker 4: what I'm trying to say is with the Clay and

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Speaker 4: James Harden's a shooter. If you go ice cold over

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Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference semifinals. No, but it's gonna happen occasionally.

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Speaker 4: And he just went ice cold these past two games.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, maybe with a little off the court motivation.

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Speaker 4: He's got this kid who's clearly made some commitments with

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Speaker 4: showing up for Game four. Maybe that helps, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe there's something bigger than the game that he can

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Speaker 4: take his concentration off and play a little bit looser

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Speaker 4: as a result. But yeah, he's just been ice cold

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love that angle, and I hope that there's because listen,

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Speaker 5: I think what we all want, is basketball fans, is

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Speaker 5: for this series to be a deep, long series and

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Speaker 5: for us to really get the entertainment value out of it,

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Speaker 5: because I think the last two games have been kind

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Speaker 5: of laughers, especially Game two, and you know, last night

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Speaker 5: there were moments where it was close.

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Speaker 1: First half, it was close.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, Philly took a lead a little

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Speaker 5: pulled away in the fourth. And still you know, James

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Speaker 5: had eleven assists last night. I mean, if I played

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Speaker 5: feel still pretty good about my performance. I know the

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Speaker 5: expectations are higher for James and sixteen points and he

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Speaker 5: didn't shoot it well, and I yeah, shoot or shoot

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Speaker 5: right like he can't. This isn't the time for self

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Speaker 5: more you shoot, the better chance you have that you're

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Speaker 5: gonna break out of this slump. Philly is still a

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Speaker 5: very talented team. They have a great bench. I think

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of upside to their roster. I just

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Speaker 3: A little bit of breaking horse racing news for you guys.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky Derby favorite Forte scratched from the Derby Today horse

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Speaker 3: Wow scratched.

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Speaker 2: Is it too late, Jared to get another horse in there?

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Speaker 3: I know there have been three horses that were on

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Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm not at the stay. I hate the

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Speaker 5: But so I'll be honest, and you know me, gambling guru,

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Speaker 1: But also we're really late in the process here.

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Speaker 5: It'd be one thing if a horse usually they have

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will guess that.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversy about that this week too.

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Speaker 3: But if there's anything even minorly wrong with the betting

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean there are so many, so many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got so. I have boots on the ground there.

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Speaker 2: Have you been there, Jared, No, it's on the list.

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Speaker 2: No, No, like a road.

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Speaker 1: You would have been, brih. Yeah, it's proximity down there.

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Speaker 4: I will see that I have. We'll throw our comrexes

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a live remote next year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that'd be a lot of fun. The Kentucky Derby.

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Speaker 4: would be like, all right, so what does your parlay

438
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Speaker 4: look like. I'd be like, well, I've got the seventeen horse,

439
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Speaker 4: the four horse, and the two horse. Why because those

440
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Speaker 4: were the numbers that I chose.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. What's better than the horse? Horses names?

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Speaker 5: I think that's my favorite part of the nostalgia, like

443
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Speaker 5: the pomp and circumstance involved, like just the names of

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Speaker 5: the horses.

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Speaker 4: Just oh yeah, well, I mean you could you could

446
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Speaker 4: one of the funnest games to play in the stands

447
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Speaker 4: is you you test?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: You test your friends? Is it a horse name or

450
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Speaker 4: a porn star? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, guy, shout out to Jonas Knox.

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Speaker 2: You know, so it does does does he do that?

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Speaker 2: He does pro wrestler or porn star words? Similarly?

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of been the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I love it. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's get to our our good friend, Isaac low

457
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Speaker 3: and Crown. I guess speaking of loving it, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: but he's more than an it. He has a breath

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Speaker 3: of fresh air and he is a human being.

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Speaker 2: I love what's going on, buddy.

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Speaker 10: Glad we we finally cleared that up and you're well

462
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Speaker 10: scared about that for a while. Welcome to the Animal

463
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Speaker 10: Kingdom version of What's trending? Uh, both at the start

464
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Speaker 10: and at the end. We start, of course, with the

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Speaker 10: breaking news that Kentucky Derby favorite Forte has been scratched

466
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Speaker 10: from the race. Forte was set to go off the

467
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Speaker 10: three to one odds. The decision to scratch him was

468
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Speaker 10: made after a workout this morning. Again, Kentucky Derby favorite

469
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Speaker 10: Forte has been scratched in Game three of the NBA's

470
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Speaker 10: Western Conference Semi Finals on Friday night, Devin Booker dropped

471
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Speaker 10: forty seven as his Phoenix Suns defeat at Denver one

472
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Speaker 10: twenty one to one fourteen. Denver still leads the series

473
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Speaker 10: two games to one. Booker was twenty out of twenty

474
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Speaker 10: five from the field, Kevin Durant adding thirty nine points,

475
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Speaker 10: nine rebounds, and eight assists. He was fourteen of sixteen

476
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Speaker 10: from the free throw line. Earlier, in Game three of

477
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Speaker 10: the Eastern Conference semi Finals, Boston went in Philadelphia one

478
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Speaker 10: fourteen to one to two. Boston takes the two games

479
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Speaker 10: to one lead. They got twenty seven from Jason Tatum

480
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Speaker 10: and a losing cause. James Harden was just three for

481
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Speaker 10: fourteen from the field. And the Stanley Cup Playoffs Friday night,

482
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Speaker 10: in Game two of the Eastern Conference semi Finals. There,

483
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Speaker 10: the Carolina Hurricanes defeated the New Jersey Devil six to

484
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Speaker 10: one for a two games to none lead. Baseball Friday night,

485
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Speaker 10: Fernando Tatis junior homer twice off of Clayton Kershaw and

486
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Speaker 10: the Padres five to win over the Dodgers. The Angels

487
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Speaker 10: rallied from four to nothing down going up to the

488
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Speaker 10: bottom of the eighth inning for a five to four

489
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Speaker 10: victory over the Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 9: In ten innings.

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Speaker 10: Finally fellas During warmups of a professional rugby match in

492
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Speaker 10: France on Friday, a bull got loose on the field

493
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Speaker 10: of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Very tame bowl. What was up with that?

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Speaker 1: All?

496
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Speaker 2: Over there?

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Speaker 10: It sent macho rugby players from both teams sprinting away

498
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Speaker 10: and jumping into the safety of the stands. If you're

499
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Speaker 10: wonder to go about the background. The ball, along with

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Speaker 10: four of its friends, was supposed to be part of

501
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Speaker 10: a pregame ceremony quote to honor local livestock.

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Speaker 9: Unquote. Okay, and here's here's what I don't get.

503
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Speaker 10: The pregame ceremony cheap honor local livestock was sponsored by

504
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Speaker 10: a nearby meat processing plant that was run by the

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Speaker 10: owner of the home team. The bulleventually slowed down, was

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Speaker 10: brought back under control by its handlers. So it's nice

507
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Speaker 10: that they're having a ceremony, but it's really weird that

508
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Speaker 10: it would be sponsored by a meat processing plant.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, next rum rugby match, they're gonna have

510
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Speaker 4: a hamburger eating contest and be like where did this

511
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Speaker 4: hamburger almost hamburger.

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Speaker 3: Sponsored by a very nice ball. I'm used to bulls

513
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Speaker 3: just causing Pamplona, Yeah, Pamplona. He was going up to

514
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Speaker 3: people almost wanted to be petted, you know, like that

515
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: was a very tame bowl, very nice call him Ribbi. Yeah,

516
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Speaker 3: that's a Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

517
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: We will get to uh in about fifteen minutes. We'll

518
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Speaker 3: get to the rookie qbs and who starts when. But

519
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: there are a couple of things that I think are

520
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Speaker 3: just funny and we'll throw it into the show right here,

521
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: our producer Bo Benson. This is just a running joke

522
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Speaker 3: where he's a Laker fan, and so he pushes back

523
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Speaker 3: on the thought from most of the national media that

524
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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis is the only star player who gets hurt.

525
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like anytime, oh, Jimmy Butler's

526
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Speaker 3: out for Game two, I thought Anthony Davis was the

527
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Speaker 3: only star player who gets hurt. You know, he'll say

528
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Speaker 3: something like that. Now he's incorporated horse racing. He told

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Speaker 3: me when Forte was scratched, he was like, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 3: is still playing, you know, like.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Man for the horses.

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, we're is that what this sporting world has

534
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Speaker 5: come to. Yeah, to make sure Fort is good for

535
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Speaker 5: the Belmont and the Preak. This guys, we gotta give

536
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Speaker 5: him a rest.

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Speaker 4: We need him ready for the Lman. Yeah, he's already

538
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Speaker 4: in Long Island. He went ahead of the team.

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Speaker 3: It's just so well played by our guy. Bo so

540
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: well played a couple other funny things here. So Draymond Green,

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Speaker 3: he was called out by his son and daughter. Listen

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Speaker 3: to this sound. This is tremendous.

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Speaker 8: Anytime as a parent you can provide things for your

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Speaker 8: kids that you know they love, it's always an extra

545
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Speaker 8: added bonus in the centers and make you want to

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Speaker 8: do more of that, put more effort into being great.

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Speaker 8: And you know, last night I was in the gym.

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Speaker 8: He was here with me, all of was here with me,

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Speaker 8: and you know they love that, and so I think

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Speaker 8: it's you know, okay, and you know, it just pushes

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Speaker 8: you way harder knowing that they're watching every single thing

552
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Speaker 8: you do.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

554
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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we were at the gym last night,

555
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Speaker 3: and the son and daughter like, no, I wasn't. I

556
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Speaker 3: just think that's hilarious right there. They wouldn't go along

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Speaker 3: with the story. And the other funny story is I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you guys saw this the other day. Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: He was at a Knicks game with his teammate, Sauce Gardner.

560
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Of course, Aaron Rodgers, quarterback now with the Jets. Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 3: cornerback of the Jets, defensive rookie of the year. They

562
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Speaker 3: were there at Game two as the Knicks beat the

563
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Speaker 3: Miami Heat, and they bumped into Jessica Alba, who is

564
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Speaker 3: you know, famous, been an actress, you know, very well known.

565
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Speaker 2: Sauce didn't know her. Sas didn't know her.

566
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Speaker 3: He was born in the two thousands, so Jessica Alba,

567
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Speaker 3: She tweeted, I totally see how this kid Sauce got

568
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Speaker 3: his name. He said to my girl Elizabeth, How can

569
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Speaker 3: I get caught up when I'm the catch? What a

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Speaker 3: line right there by Sauce and then Sauce he follows

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Speaker 3: it up. He tweets back at Jessica. Damn, it's been

572
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Speaker 3: two days and you still remember what I said?

573
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Speaker 2: Word for word. I just might be.

574
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Speaker 3: Him endlessly played by Sauce Gardner right there.

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Speaker 2: You got to have the as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know celebrity news like this.

577
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know the man. The man is confident.

578
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: I think you could say that I love. I'll tell

579
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Speaker 4: you what. There are two positions, specifically on a football field,

580
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Speaker 4: where I want you to have the most confidence. And

581
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Speaker 4: it really are the two positions that that remind me

582
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Speaker 4: the most of basketball. And so these guys, their personalities

583
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Speaker 4: remind me the most of basketball players. It's corner and

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Speaker 4: it's wide receiver. Like I know, they get characterized as

585
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Speaker 4: divas a lot, but when you play with a super confident,

586
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Speaker 4: super talented wide receiver, there is nothing better than that,

587
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Speaker 4: especially when you know he is him, like when he's

588
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Speaker 4: the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 4: When I first joined the Patriots, Randy Moss was still

591
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Speaker 4: playing for the team, and I remember being so enamored

592
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Speaker 4: with not only the level of talent the guy still

593
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Speaker 4: had because I you know, I'm catching the tail the

594
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Speaker 4: dragon at the end of the ride, like I mean

595
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Speaker 4: the guy. You know, the guy was close to retirement then,

596
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Speaker 4: but he had just come off that ridiculous season where

597
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Speaker 4: him and Brady had had you know, tag team for

598
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Speaker 4: fifty touchdown but it was ridiculous, right, So I would

599
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Speaker 4: remember hearing the way he would talk to people at

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Speaker 4: practice and be like, oh my gosh, like not only

601
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Speaker 4: the incredible, but he had the funniest lines. I remember

602
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Speaker 4: he stopped practice one time because this rookie corner was

603
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Speaker 4: giving him like, you know, just John in his ear

604
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Speaker 4: because because he deflected a pass on its way to

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Speaker 4: Randy stopped a training camp practice, ran back and told Tom, Hey,

606
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Speaker 4: we're doing that play all over again, same exact route,

607
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Speaker 4: same play. Virtually everybody else on the field was kind

608
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Speaker 4: of just Patty Caken. While he was taking a full

609
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Speaker 4: speed rep against this corner, he goes blazing down the sideline,

610
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Speaker 4: looks over his inside shoulder one hand, grabs it with

611
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Speaker 4: his inside hand, never even reels in the ball, just

612
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: keeps it in the air. And this rookie corner got

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Speaker 4: an earful from the time they left the end zone

614
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Speaker 4: until they got back to the huddle. And I'm just like,

615
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: that is how it's done, Sauce Gardner. That's how it's done, buddy,

616
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: Keep that confidence, keep playing the way you are, and

617
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Speaker 4: he's gonna be a big time starr in this league

618
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Speaker 4: for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 1: Remember last year when they drafted Derek Stingley.

622
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Speaker 2: Before him, Oh yeah, that's right.

623
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Speaker 5: What were the Texans thinking? Maybe they made the same

624
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: mistake this year with CJ. Stroud, right, Brian, I know,

625
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: could be a bad one. I just went through a

626
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: trip do memory lane with Jessica Alba's IMDb profile. Man

627
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Speaker 5: oh man, there's some classics here Camp nowhere was her

628
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: first ever credit. I don't know if you guys remember

629
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 5: that movie. That was a growing up staple for me.

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Speaker 5: And some of these were great.

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Speaker 4: I see the Oscar for Cam.

632
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Speaker 1: Could it not be on the list?

633
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Speaker 5: And then of course Beverly Hills nine to two one oh,

634
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Speaker 5: I mean she was she was big time there and

635
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: that was her big break, right, but was it?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: She was a little cameo on Beverly Hills nine to.

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Speaker 4: Two one oh oh wow.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of things I remember. Since City

640
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Speaker 3: she was, yes, since City.

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Speaker 5: Very a little more recently one hundred percent. And then

642
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Speaker 5: also Entourage I think was another classic Jessica Alba little

643
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Speaker 5: arc there, But no, I think was speaking of character

644
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: arcs right, like we're in the Aaron Rodgers like late

645
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: late stage career character arc now, and it does seem

646
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Speaker 5: like and this was always my concern going into this

647
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: new saga, the sequel or maybe trilogy of of Aaron's

648
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: career here in New York, was he going to absorb

649
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Speaker 5: the youthful exuberance of the Jets roster, because let's be honest,

650
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Speaker 5: outside of Aaron, there's a lot of really young talented

651
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: players that need that guidance. It does seem we're very early,

652
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: We're still in the honeymoon stage. It does seem right

653
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: now like he's accepted that role as the old grizzled

654
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Speaker 5: vet that is going to make fun of, you know,

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Speaker 5: yelling angry dad, yelling at the clouds kind of vibe,

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Speaker 5: but in a playful, jovial way. Right now, everything's hunky

657
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Speaker 5: dory and it's the honeymoon face. Still, it does seem

658
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Speaker 5: like he's taking on that role. If that continues, guys,

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Speaker 5: I think that makes the Jets exponentially more dangerous next year. Now,

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Speaker 5: we'll see if it continues. We'll see if when the

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Speaker 5: adversity strikes, it's inevitable it will strike. At some point,

662
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Speaker 5: they'll lose a couple games, they'll be a little tiff. Whatever,

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Speaker 5: does he continue to be that positive reinforcement person in

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Speaker 5: the locker room I hope so as a Jets fan,

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Speaker 5: I don't know based off of Aaron's track record if

666
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Speaker 5: that's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be the case.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully he handles the New York Bright Lights well. So far,

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Speaker 5: it's been a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: I will see well.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is we always talk about Rogers,

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Speaker 3: especially last year, and what he had around him in

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Speaker 3: terms of offensive threats. Well, that's not the only way

674
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Speaker 3: to win games, you know, like what he has around

675
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Speaker 3: him in terms of defensive threats. Now with the Jets

676
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Speaker 3: to have Sauce Gardner, who some people say was not

677
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Speaker 3: only the best rookie cornerback last season, they've got him

678
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Speaker 3: as the best corner period in the NFL already. So

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Speaker 3: that's a big, big deal. And hey, Sauce doesn't lack confidence,

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Speaker 3: all right. He's got game and he's got confidence that

681
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Speaker 3: makes them even more dangerous. It's not like Deon Zander's

682
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: lacked confidence on or off the field. That actually helped

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Speaker 3: him more on the field. So I'm excited to see

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Speaker 3: what the Jets do this season. Should be a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun. Hey, we are running full steme ahead over here.

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Speaker 3: We've got rich Orenberger, Penn State all American Jared Smith

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Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Coming up next is

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Speaker 3: right away too soon. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Saturday Live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Okay,

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Speaker 3: as we look to the rookie quarterbacks here in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: we've got three qbs in the top four picks. How

693
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Speaker 3: soon will they start? So, if we go with Bryce

694
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Speaker 3: Young number one overall pick with the Panthers, c J.

695
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Speaker 3: Stroud number two overall pick with the Texans, and Anthony

696
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: Richardson number four overall pick with the Colts, when did

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Speaker 3: they start? If we're prognosticating, I think that Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: and c J. Stroud will probably start in week one.

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Speaker 3: As far as Anthony Richardson the Colts quarterback, I don't

700
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Speaker 3: think he starts right away.

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Speaker 2: They give it a little bit of time. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'll say something like, without knowing the schedule, maybe like

703
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Speaker 3: week six or something like that. I think it'll be

704
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Speaker 3: a little bit later in the season. What do you

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Speaker 3: guys think as far as the rookie qbs go in

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Speaker 3: the first round?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it really depends on the patience level

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Speaker 4: of ownership with the starting quarterbacks, Like, for example, I

709
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Speaker 4: think Carolina is a little bit closer to being a

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Speaker 4: complete team than either of the other two teams. You know. Well,

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Speaker 4: I guess the Colts are kind of in that conversation too,

712
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Speaker 4: you know. So I could see Andy Dalton and I

713
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: could see I could see Gardner Minshew respectively, with the

714
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Speaker 4: Panthers and the Colts getting some field time before they

715
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Speaker 4: want to bring in the rookies. But but if things

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Speaker 4: aren't going great with Dalton, if things aren't going great

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Speaker 4: with Minshew there in Indianapolis, I could see them getting

718
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Speaker 4: an early hook and ownership being like, Okay, let's sets

719
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Speaker 4: out the young buck because we actually have a pretty

720
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Speaker 4: decent team around him. Whereas in Houston, I think Stroud

721
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Speaker 4: has some time to learn, Like I think he actually has.

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Speaker 4: I think he has some time behind the scenes to

723
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Speaker 4: get this, to get this figured out at the NFL level,

724
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Speaker 4: unless their plan is, hey, let's get him as many

725
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Speaker 4: reps as early in his career as possible. But we've

726
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Speaker 4: seen how that's worked for certain Texans quarterbacks in the past,

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Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, David Carr specifically comes to mind. They

728
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Speaker 4: started him and they didn't have an offensive lineman. He

729
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Speaker 4: was sacked more than any other quarterback at NFL history

730
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Speaker 4: one of the seasons he played there, So you could

731
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Speaker 4: you could ruin a quarterback that way. But but if

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Speaker 4: I guess, it comes down to two things, patience that

733
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Speaker 4: the ownership has with the team and their success level

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Speaker 4: at that point, and how far along you are in

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Speaker 4: the rebuilding. Also, I guess throw into that, how ready

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Speaker 4: the quarterback is to take the field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think Bryce Young's probably ready to start.

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Speaker 5: Of all the guys, I think Bryce is the most

739
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: ready to start. But Bryce is also in a situation

740
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Speaker 5: where he has, I guess, the best guy in front

741
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Speaker 5: of him with Andy Dalton, Right, I use that word

742
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Speaker 5: best very loosely, but when you compare them to Gardner

743
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Speaker 5: Minshew and and Davis Mills, I think it's fair to

744
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Speaker 5: put Dalton in front of those guys in terms of

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Speaker 5: his experience and maybe some of the the intangibles that

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Speaker 5: that Andy brings to the table a little bit. But

747
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Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, I would

748
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Speaker 5: be surprised if all three guys, frankly weren't starting at

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Speaker 5: some point mid season.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't have the schedule yet, right.

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Speaker 5: Which makes it harder to kind of give us a

752
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Speaker 5: moment like a pinpoint. Oh well, this is a soft

753
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Speaker 5: landing spot for one of these guys. I think the

754
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Speaker 5: colts On Richardson is the one that would surprise me

755
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Speaker 5: if it was early. I think Gardner Minshew actually in

756
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Speaker 5: a short runway can be pretty productive. I think it's

757
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Speaker 5: when you you know, even with the Eagles last year

758
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Speaker 5: he had a couple games, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it was one game for Jalen Hurts where

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Speaker 1: it was like WHOA.

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Speaker 5: But I think if you extrapolate the long sample size

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Speaker 5: with Minshew I would feel much less comfortable with him

763
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Speaker 5: because of the volatility. Whereas Andy Dalton I think actually

764
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Speaker 5: could probably start the entire season if Bryce Young wasn't ready,

765
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Speaker 5: And I don't know if the record would be any

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Speaker 5: different for Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see Carolina going to Bryce

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Speaker 1: the soonest.

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Speaker 5: But Dalton to me, has the most runway for success

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Speaker 5: based off of his prior history.

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Speaker 3: The way I always look at it is if I'm

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Speaker 3: the team, Like if I'm the head coach, the GM,

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Speaker 3: the front office, I would look at my young rookie

774
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Speaker 3: quarterback and say does he know enough and is he

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Speaker 3: prepared enough where we feel confident he's not at great

776
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Speaker 3: risk to go out there and start forming bad habits. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that he then has to break. I mean on Bryce, right,

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Speaker 3: I think you were there on Bryce. Yeah, with CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's a supporting cast question because he most

780
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: likely will end up having five first round wide receivers

781
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Speaker 3: as his targets the last two seasons at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have five first round wide receivers with the

783
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Speaker 3: Houston Texans, you know what I mean. So that is

784
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: a big, big difference. And with Anthony Richardson, the guy

785
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: through three hundred and ninety three passes in college. He

786
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Speaker 3: hasn't even thrown four hundred passes. So I'm really curious

787
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Speaker 3: if the colts can be honest with themselves and disciplined

788
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Speaker 3: if they don't feel he's ready to go out there

789
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Speaker 3: and they feel like he's at risk to develop some

790
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Speaker 3: bad I wonder if they can be disciplined enough and

791
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Speaker 3: honest with themselves enough to not throw them out there

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Speaker 3: before he actually is ready.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you said it right. I think it's going

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Speaker 4: to It's gonna be a QB readiness question the most,

795
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Speaker 4: but also we know it. It's a win now league

796
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Speaker 4: and if you don't start winning and you have a

797
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Speaker 4: high draft pick, owners can get uncomfortable with that.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 3: And Chris Ballard's timeline the GM not the same timeline

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Speaker 3: as the new head coach, Shane Stike, and he needs

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Speaker 3: results right away. Hey, coming up next, this team just

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Speaker 3: made a whoa move.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain.

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Speaker 3: Oh, what's going on everybody. Hope you're enjoying your Saturday.

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Speaker 3: A team made a move that will make you go

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Speaker 3: be Guys. Mike Budenholzer fired as head coach of the

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks. Guy won a championship in Milwaukee, he was

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Speaker 3: Coach of the Year in twenty nineteen, and he's out

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Speaker 3: of a gig now.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things to consider here.

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Speaker 3: His brother died before Game four of the Bucks first

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Speaker 3: round series against the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 4: Oh I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bud coached. He didn't miss a game, but it

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Speaker 3: ended up being a gentleman sweep. They lost in five

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Speaker 3: to the Miami Heat. Jannis had a back injury. He

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Speaker 3: missed two and a half games. And yet Bud is

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Speaker 3: out of a gig. I know the knock is been,

825
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Speaker 3: and it's true Bud is slow to make adjustments. Giannis

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Speaker 3: pointed that out after Game five after they lost the series,

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Speaker 3: and he's gone. It's like Hawk Harrelson used to say,

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Speaker 3: the color commentator for the White Sox.

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Speaker 2: He going, he's out of a gig. And this is wild.

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Speaker 3: Two Fellas you look at the last four NBA champions

831
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Speaker 3: three of the head coaches have been fired. Steve Kurr

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Speaker 3: is the only guy who won a championship last season

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Speaker 3: to still be employed. Budenholzer is out. They won a

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Speaker 3: title two years ago in twenty twenty one. Frank Vogel

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Speaker 3: with the Lakers is gone. Nick Nurse with the Raptors

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Speaker 3: he's out of a gig also, So I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: it's a what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 2: Business?

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to Giannis's comments after the loss to

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Speaker 3: the Heat, saying there's no failure in sports. I wonder

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Speaker 3: if Bud is thinking, Hey, if there's no failure in sports,

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Speaker 3: why am I out of.

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Speaker 2: A gig right now?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like, clearly there is failure in sports, and the Bucks

846
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Speaker 3: losing in five in the first round was an epic failure.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: They were the odds on favorites to win a championship

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Speaker 3: and they lost in a gentleman sweep in round one

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Speaker 3: to an eight seed. So that is a textbook failure

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Speaker 3: right there, and I think unfortunately Budenholzer pays the price

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately in sports much like life. I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: the reason why I think a lot of parents like

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Speaker 4: to have their kids play sports, because the consequences can

856
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: be severe and immediate in sports, just like certain decisions

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Speaker 4: you make in life. You know, so it's a great

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Speaker 4: it's a great metaphor or comparison or parable, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to say or label like. And that's the reality

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Speaker 4: of this situation in my mind. Like there are certain

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Speaker 4: times in life where you know, if you get beat

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Speaker 4: or if you make a decision, it's not going to

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Speaker 4: have a reverberation for the rest of your life. You

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, It's not going to be one

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Speaker 4: of those things that historically you're going to remember as

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Speaker 4: one of your life's greatest regrets. You know, say you

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Speaker 4: know you ding somebody's bumper in a parking lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like that's not going to ruin your life. But say

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Speaker 4: you drive drunk and you hurt somebody or kill somebody

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Speaker 4: like that historically is going to change the way people

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Speaker 4: think of you. It could change your employment. You know,

872
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: you may lose your job, You could do jail time.

873
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: I mean, like like real ramifications can occur from that, Like, look,

874
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 4: he lost a playoff series and if you just say that, Okay,

875
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: what's the harm, Well, it's the way it happened. Like

876
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 4: you said, they lost in five to an eight seed

877
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: when they were the odds on favorites to win the

878
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: NBA Championship. In in Game five, by the way, they

879
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: had a sixteen point lead going into the fourth quarter.

880
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: They got outscored thirty two sixteen in the fourth and

881
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: Mike Budenholzer didn't have a good excuse as to why

882
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: he didn't use timeouts. I mean, like I completely understand

883
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: from a personal standpoint and empathize, or I should say

884
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: empathize because I've never experienced what he's going through with

885
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: his brother passing away, and that is an absolute horrifying

886
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: thing to face at any point in your life, certainly

887
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 4: during one of the more important moments in your life

888
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 4: being in the postseason as a coach. But my goodness,

889
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: like sometimes in sport, things happen like historic things happened

890
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: to you or because of you, and if you're a

891
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: part of the problem, they're going to make hard decisions.

892
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: And I think this was actually a hard decision by

893
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: Milwaukee's ownership. I don't think they necessarily wanted to fire

894
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: the guy, but after an embarrassment like that, fan bases

895
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: they want changes, and that was the change that ownership

896
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: felt like they needed to impart to make up for it.

897
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know about the brother thing. I think

898
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 5: that changes how I feel about the situation a little bit.

899
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: But I do think unfortunately, when you're embarrassed on the

900
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: level that the Bucks were embarrassed at, I think a

901
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: change does have to be made. I've been putting a

902
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: lot of thought into Giannis's quote, you know, his his

903
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 5: his failure speech the last few days, because it resonates

904
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: with me on a betting level, like I feel a

905
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: lot of responsibility on a daily basis with the people

906
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: who follow my picks and stuff like that. And when

907
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: I have a losing day, a lot of people in

908
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 5: a very results oriented business feel like I had a

909
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 5: failure of a day, whereas I like to consider days

910
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: that I lose learning experiences. Even days that I win,

911
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: I like to consider them learning experiences. But on days

912
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: that I lose, specifically, when your bankroll is less the

913
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: day you know after you you had a rough, rough

914
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: couple of bets there.

915
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe more than a couple some days.

916
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: It just it just speaks to I think the level

917
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: of uncertainty in sports, And that's what we talk about

918
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: on this show. That's what we preach when we're betting,

919
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: when we're trying to break down these games and trying

920
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 5: to figure out who's gonna win. There we can break

921
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: this stuff down to we're blue in the face. There

922
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: is a level of uncertainty and unpredictability and randomness that

923
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: occurs in the world of sports that you could be

924
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: the most polished professional athlete in the best shape in

925
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: the world, you can't prepare for every scenario. You can't

926
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 5: understand why things happen the way that they do. All

927
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: you could do is react to them, and in this

928
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: particular case, I think the Bucks reacted very harshly, but

929
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 5: maybe fairly right like. And it is weird that the

930
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: last wasn't a three to the last four coaches NBA

931
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: championships are now without a job. I mean to me,

932
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: I think that speaks more to where sports is than

933
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: anything else. Success is fleeting. It is not an easy

934
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: thing to stay at top your perch. And the NFL

935
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: stands for not for long. I don't know what the

936
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: NBA stands for, but might as well just put it

937
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: in the same category, because when you win a championship

938
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: usually you get a little bit of a runway. But

939
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: I I guess it was a little bit of a

940
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: shorter runway for coach Budd.

941
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, did not have the runway right there.

942
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: The thing that blows my mind is if you go

943
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: back to that Game five loss to Miami, there were

944
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: just a couple of seconds left at the end of regulation.

945
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Miami was inbounding the ball. They were down by two.

946
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: They chucked it toward the basket. Jimmy Butler pushes off, Yeah,

947
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: catches the ball, puts it in ty, game goes to overtime,

948
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: Miami wins if there's a foul call there, which there

949
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: definitely should have been. Who knows what we're talking about today. Yeah,

950
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: you know, the Bucks win Game five, the series shifts

951
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: to Miami. Maybe the Bucks win that game on the

952
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: road and eventually win that series. We'll never know that,

953
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: but that blows my mind. Is this firing and a

954
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: major change of direction, the course of your direction. It

955
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: hinges on a no call that should have been made.

956
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: That's wild to me. But what you're talking about Gianni's

957
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: his comments after that Game five lost to Miami in

958
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: the first round.

959
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Jared, this is how it sounded. Just so we're all

960
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: on the same page.

961
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: It's not a failure.

962
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 6: It steps to success.

963
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 11: Michael Jordan played fifteen years, one six championship. The other

964
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 11: nine years was a failure. That's what you're telling me.

965
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 11: I'm asking your question, yes or no? Okay, exactly, So

966
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 11: why you ask me that question. It's a wrong question.

967
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 11: There's no failure in sports. You know, there's good days,

968
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 11: bad days. Some days you are able to be successful

969
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 11: so that you're not some days it's your turn, some

970
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 11: day it's not your turn. And that's what sports about.

971
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I know that's his perspective and it's

972
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: a different way to look at it. But look, I

973
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: think it depends on how you lose as well. If

974
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: we're comparing it to Michael Jordan. Was Michael Jordan losing

975
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference finals like that?

976
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: That's different than losing.

977
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: In round one in five to an eight seed, you

978
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like that, that's a far cry

979
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: from it. If you compare it to betting. You brought

980
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: this up, Jared, if your picks out there and it's

981
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a buzzer beater in the pick doesn't cash.

982
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: That's different than saying I'm gonna take this team and

983
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: they get blown out by forty, you know what I mean.

984
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 2: Like, it's just different.

985
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: It depends on how So I understand his perspective what

986
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 3: Giannis is saying, but there's no doubt as a one

987
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: seed losing to an eight in round one, when you're

988
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: the favorites to win a title, that's the definition of

989
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: a failure. They wouldn't have made a move as drastic

990
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: as they they did firing Bud if it wasn't a failure.

991
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: Look, when when things are good. Things are good when

992
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 4: things are bad, like you gotta find you gotta find

993
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 4: the good, right Like I I mean, nobody really asks

994
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: questions like that about failure or about about adjustments when

995
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: you're winning, like because the assumption is everything's working and

996
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: that's not true. That really isn't true. And when things

997
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: are bad, the truth is you you may only have

998
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: a cup of things you have to fix, but maybe

999
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: they were exploited and highlighted or you ran into a

1000
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 4: really good team. So even as talented and as effective

1001
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: as you are, you ran into a more talented or

1002
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: more effective team. And sometimes that's the story of the postseason.

1003
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: You know. The thing, though, is right now it's bad,

1004
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 4: and so where's the good? Right? Sometimes the good is

1005
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: in a change. Sometimes the good is in hey, look,

1006
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, maybe Budenholzer is a great culture builder, but

1007
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 4: he's not going to be the coach that sustains right,

1008
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: so maybe now is the excuse to move on. I'm

1009
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: not saying that because the truth is, like I boil

1010
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: it down to, like a really bad moment for Mike Budenholzer.

1011
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 4: I think that Game five, that's ultimately what happened is

1012
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 4: they looked at that performance, especially in the fourth quarter,

1013
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: and they said this is inexplicable, like we just cannot

1014
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 4: have a situation like this. That's really what it comes

1015
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: down to. When you go into the fourth quarter with

1016
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: a sixteen point lead and you have a calamity of

1017
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: events that leads to you being knocked out of the

1018
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: series in that game. And then you also you mentioned

1019
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: the inbound pass to Butler if he got fouled. How

1020
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: about this after scoring the layup? Why wasn't a timeout called?

1021
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, that was a big yep.

1022
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: And then when coach Bud was asked about it afterwards,

1023
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: he didn't have an excuse. He's like, yeah, we should

1024
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: have called time out there.

1025
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you.

1026
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: That's the thing is you can make great arguments on

1027
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: both sides where you bring up great points about Bud.

1028
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that?

1029
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: That's totally fair. The other side of that is Giannis

1030
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 3: missus two and a half games and missus thirteen free

1031
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: throws in game five.

1032
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's not on Bud.

1033
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I he did also say after the game,

1034
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: and look, there there is a certain chain of responsibility,

1035
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: and when a star is willing to pass the buck

1036
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 4: to his coach. It also speaks volumes because Jannis for

1037
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: as much as I and that clip went viral, the

1038
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 4: one we just played. There about no failure in sports,

1039
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: and there's a part of me that agrees with a

1040
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: lot of what he's saying, although the comparison he made,

1041
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan would tell you there's failure in sports. Michael

1042
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: Jordan would tell you all those years that he didn't

1043
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: make it to the posts, or to the postseason or

1044
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: to the finals, that he failed because that's the way

1045
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: he thought about it. That was his perspective about it.

1046
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 4: If you weren't winning, you were failing. In his mind,

1047
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: it was very black and white for Giannis. There may

1048
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: be more gray area, but there was no gray area.

1049
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: When they were asking him about adjustments, he said, we

1050
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 4: didn't make adjustments. When they were talking about Jimmy Butler

1051
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: and the way he played in this series, he said

1052
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: he wished he played defense against Jimmy Moore. And so

1053
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 4: what he's doing is he's outing the game plan. He's saying,

1054
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: we did the wrong thing here, we didn't adjust. Who's

1055
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: that on Is that on Yiannis? No, it's on coaching.

1056
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 4: That's on. The buck stops at Budenholzer when he said

1057
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: I didn't d up Jimmy as much as I should have.

1058
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: That's by scheme, you know. So he's basically blaming the

1059
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: coaching staff for the loss, and so the accountability when

1060
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: you're blaming the coaching staff, it stops with the guy

1061
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 4: at the head, and unfortunately for Mike Budenholzer, that's who

1062
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: it is. That's where the buck stops.

1063
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's two different lines of thinking here.

1064
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 5: I agree with Giannis. I think in sports, the lesson

1065
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 5: of sports the greater good of sports. There's no failures.

1066
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 5: But we're talking about now a professional different level. I

1067
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: think of accountability when you're talking to a kid who's

1068
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 5: trying to learn how to be an adult, a human,

1069
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: and they're playing sports, there's tons of life lessons. You

1070
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 5: might lose the game, little Timmy, but let's learn from

1071
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 5: it well. At the level that Yannis is at and

1072
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 5: at the level that Mike Budenholzer is at, the stakes

1073
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 5: are higher. You are a professional, it is your job.

1074
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 5: If you don't get the job done, that's different. Then

1075
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 5: let's all grow and learn together about this beautiful game

1076
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 5: that we're playing right like, I think there are, and

1077
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: that's the gray area that you talk about, Brian, I

1078
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 5: think that's very fair or rich. I think that's a

1079
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 5: very fair comparison to make we do and I do

1080
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 5: this too. I live in a society, a generation very

1081
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: instant gratification. It's a results driven society, results driven business.

1082
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 5: And I'm a professional. If I feel like I didn't

1083
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: do my best work, I feel like I failed that day.

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00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 5: Maybe I learned from the failure, but I'm still a

1085
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 5: professional and I need to be held accountable for what

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00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm doing. I think that's where the disagreement with the

1087
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 5: Hones's statement comes in. The agreement is still at the core,

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00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: at the foundational level of what we're talking about on

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00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 5: a daily basis. Yes, there are lessons in failure every day,

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00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 5: and we should gravitate towards those lessons instead of focusing

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 5: on the negative and being negative. Negative mindsets usually derive

1092
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: negative results. We should be focusing on the lessons. But

1093
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 5: at the end of the day's job and your job

1094
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: was to win, and you didn't win. I mean, you know, right, Like,

1095
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: I think there's two tracks of mind to look at it.

1096
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 5: I appreciate Giannis's more softer way of handling it. But

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you're a professional Bud,

1098
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: you're one of the highest paid guys in your sport.

1099
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 5: You gotta succeed or else changes will be made.

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00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: I'll just say this real fast.

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: I think it's easier to grade your own failures more

1102
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: favorably and grade somebody else's failures more harshly.

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: So if you look at Yannis, he's like, was it

1105
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: a failure by us? We didn't win a championship?

1106
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: No, there's no failures in sports.

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: And then when it comes to Bud and hey, how

1108
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 3: is the game plan there?

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00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: Didn't like it.

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: There's no way management ran Bud out of town without

1111
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 3: running it by Yannis.

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Agree with us?

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: Okay, So either Yannis went to them and said get

1114
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: them out or management said this is what we want

1115
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: to do.

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00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Are you cool with it? I would willing to bet

1117
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: it was the latter. I would I think so too.

1118
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: But worst case scenario, he's grading Budenholzer much more harshly

1119
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 3: than he graded himself in terms of the failure department.

1120
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. And that's my point is

1121
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: it's easier to look at yourself and say well, you

1122
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: know this and that, and then somebody else that's around you,

1123
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: especially on the same team, and say, man, I mean

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: this freaking guy over here right like, there are a

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: lot of athletes that will think like that. And I

1126
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: think Jannis he's evaluating himself differently than he was evaluating

1127
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,959
Speaker 3: Budenholzer in terms of failure and achievement and that sort

1128
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: of thing.

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00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: All right, we've got a lot to do over here.

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith,

1131
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio betting analyst.

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00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm Brian though coming up next.

1133
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: This scandal led to fingers being pointed in the wrong direction.

1134
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: We'll explain. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox

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1141
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: betting scandal, got a betting scandal, and.

1142
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't involve me.

1143
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: That does not thank good college baseball is where we're

1144
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: going over here. So Alabama coach bradbro Bohannon, so apparently

1145
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: he knew a guy who was in a sports book

1146
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 3: at Ohio who was making bets on Alabama's opponent LSU.

1147
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: There are a couple of bets that were flagged due

1148
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: to the amount coming in. One was just a straight

1149
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: up bet on LSU. One was a parlay bet involving

1150
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: another game, and it was flagged.

1151
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: They did their due diligence.

1152
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: They found out that Alabama coach Brad Bohannon was on

1153
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: the phone with this guy as the bets are being entered.

1154
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 3: Bohannon is out of a job. Adios muchachos, and here

1155
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 3: we are. Here's the thing. I just want to make

1156
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: a simple point here because a lot of times when

1157
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: there is a betting scandal, there's a tendency in this

1158
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: day and age to just blame betting becoming legalized in

1159
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: more states.

1160
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: Right, It's just yeah, it's the fallback.

1161
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: Like if a coach or an athlete were to get

1162
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: drunk and then drive around, would your reaction be to say, well,

1163
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: we got these bars all over the place over No,

1164
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: you would blame the person for making a bad choice.

1165
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: Why would it be any different with gambling. It's not

1166
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: on gambling becoming legalized in more states. It's on this

1167
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: coach doing something completely improper, betting on his opponent and

1168
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: scratching a picture due to back tightness that might have

1169
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: helped the odds of the opponent winning.

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: That's the guy to blame. It's not betting becoming legalized.

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, I completely agree with you in these

1172
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: cases when people are taking advantage of vices outside of addictions,

1173
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 4: because I do believe that, you know, there there is

1174
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: a strong argument to be heard about, you know, addictions

1175
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: almost being out at a certain point outside the control

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 4: of the user. I mean, you need serious help if

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: you're in a situation like that. But outside of that,

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01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: I mean, the responsibility is completely on the end user.

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: Like the I'll make the comparison. I did this earlier

1180
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 4: this week to the tobacco industry because we're talking about

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: another vice there. One of these single most largest contributing

1182
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 4: factors to the health of Americans recently was vice tax

1183
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: on tobacco.

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 8: Like.

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: There was a significant amount of cardiac vascular debt attributed

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 4: to cigarette smoking as soon as like the tax started

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: being applied to cigarettes and tobacco sales in the United States,

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01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: the rate of cardiac death attributed to cigarette smoking plummeted.

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: You know, so, I think what we need is just

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01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: regulation around around advice. And that's what's happening. I mean,

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01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 4: gambling is being taxed at a pretty high rate. You know,

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01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: state to state, there's different rules and stuff like that.

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: There's obviously help for people who are addicted to both

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01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 4: of these things I just mentioned tobacco, end gambling. Sometimes

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: you just have to blame the end user, and this

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: is one of those situations. This guy knows the rules,

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: He's been a coach for a while. He knows that

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01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 4: it's inappropriate to get on the phone with a buddy

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Speaker 4: in Ohio. I mean, so, I look, you know, justice

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01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 4: served where justice is needed. This was dumb. I mean,

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 4: I'm sure the Ohio Sports book takes a lot action

1202
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Speaker 4: on LSU baseball, you.

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, like all the.

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: All of a sudden baseball, No nobody does.

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 8: So.

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01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 4: I mean, this dummy got caught, and he should get

1207
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: caught because it was This was very stupid.

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Speaker 5: I have many thoughts here. First of all, do you

1209
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 5: guys want the ironic part of this story. First, yeah, ye,

1210
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 5: the bets were made at the Red Sports Book where

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01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: we did the show from.

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: That's right, great American ballpark.

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: Baby's so funny.

1214
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 5: Bring it all full circle to we were literally there

1215
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 5: like three or four months ago during the NFL playoffs,

1216
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 5: and we were not there for this, for this particular

1217
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 5: event taking place, obviously, but it was insider trading.

1218
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what it was.

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 5: The coach knew that their best picture was getting scratched

1220
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 5: against LSU on a Friday night. Right, if you're unfamiliar

1221
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 5: with college baseball, the best pitcher tends to start Friday

1222
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 5: night of the weekend series against the conference opponents, and

1223
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 5: he gave a tip to his buddy. I guess now,

1224
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 5: you're right. The stupidity of the execution of this is

1225
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 5: why the story unraveled. But also to bring it back

1226
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: to Brian's point about drunk driving and stuff moderation, If

1227
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 5: this guy would have only bet a few hundred bucks

1228
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 5: to pad his bankroll a little bit on LSU, nobody's

1229
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 5: the wiser and everyone just moves on with their lives

1230
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: and it's not really, in my opinion, a huge deal.

1231
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 5: But when all of a sudden, you get greedy and

1232
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: you go for the extra big score. Well that's when

1233
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 5: it's going to get on people's radars, because, like we said,

1234
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 5: not a lot of handle gets bet on college baseball

1235
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 5: every week. If this was an NFL game and this

1236
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 5: guy had a tip that this quarterback wasn't going to play,

1237
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 5: probably nobody really knows what's happening because of how much

1238
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 5: gets bet on an NFL game every week. But when

1239
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 5: you're talking about a college baseball game in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,

1240
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. It could have been a bat, but

1241
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 5: you get the point. Not a lot of people are

1242
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 5: betting that. So when you make a big wager, it's

1243
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: gonna cause a lot of attention. I actually got a

1244
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 5: text message from a bookmaker friend that saw the screen

1245
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: pop up and say, yup, Alabama off the board and

1246
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 5: all these shops.

1247
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Something's going on, Something fishy's going on.

1248
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 5: And that's when I was brought attention to it, and

1249
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 5: then the story kind of unraveled from there. But again,

1250
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: I think it goes back to Brian's drunk driving point moderation.

1251
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: If you just take the information, you make a regular

1252
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: bet on it, you use it as just a feather

1253
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 5: in your cap.

1254
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: That's one thing.

1255
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 5: But when you make a big deal about it and

1256
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: it's regulated the way it is, I do think eventually

1257
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 5: we will get more regulation in sports betting.

1258
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: It's needed.

1259
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Speaker 5: I agree with all of your points there, But at

1260
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 5: the end of the day, just be smart, right, Like

1261
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: same thing when you're going out in the bar with

1262
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 5: your friends on a Friday night, Like, just be smart

1263
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 5: and these things won't happen.

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 6: Well.

1265
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: And this is, man, this is a mistake I don't

1266
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: know that you can recover from because I think the no, yeah,

1267
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: the Alabama coach is betting on the other team, you

1268
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, yeah, think about how much

1269
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: of sports involves trust, like trusting the people around you,

1270
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: trusting your coach, you know, and when he's betting on

1271
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: the other team with inside information, and I don't know

1272
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: how in a job interview you spin that in.

1273
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: A way where you're recovered.

1274
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 4: You're like, and the.

1275
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 3: University is like, all right, I buy it, you know

1276
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, yeah, I'm not rooting for that

1277
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: to be the case, but man, that is a state

1278
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't know that you can wash off well.

1279
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: And and here's the other thing is you know, I again,

1280
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 4: they did an investigation. They figured out that this was

1281
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 4: something untoward happened. But this is a warning to all players,

1282
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: all coaches, anybody affiliated with athletic departments or or sports teams.

1283
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 4: You gotta be real careful who you share information with

1284
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: because imagine this. Imagine you're calling one of your buddies

1285
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: from back home. Maybe coach Bohannan grew up in Ohio

1286
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: and he's got a buddy who goes to the sports

1287
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 4: book at the Great American Ballpark and just loves to bet.

1288
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of people like that, you know,

1289
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: they just like the action. Maybe they're sprinkling small amounts

1290
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 4: of you know, a couple dollars here and there as

1291
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 4: they can. But all of a sudden, he gets a

1292
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: huge tip from a buddy who is just sharing information

1293
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: with him about you know, this pitcher. I mean, we're

1294
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: really depending on him. Ls you. Ah, well, you know

1295
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 4: that's the luck of the draw. Anyways, Jake, great, catching up.

1296
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: With you later and then you're crazy cousin Jake just

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Speaker 3: bets a fortune on this inside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you gotta be real careful.

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Speaker 4: Like so this is I mean, I'm telling you, if

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Speaker 4: I am a coach, if I am a general manager,

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Speaker 4: if I am an owner of a football, basketball, baseball team,

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Speaker 4: if I'm an athletic director. I'm using this as an example.

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Speaker 4: You just said the words Jared insider trading. You guys

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Speaker 4: all have knowledge in this room that can sway the market.

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Speaker 4: And if you if it's traced back to you, even

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Speaker 4: if you didn't earn a single dollar on the information,

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Speaker 4: if it's traced back to you, if you're the reason

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Speaker 4: something went down that that that red flags came up for,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be complicit, whether it was accidental or not,

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Speaker 4: because guess what, at the end of the day, nobody's

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Speaker 4: gonna believe you. Nobody's gonna believe you. So you gotta

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Speaker 4: be real careful with information sharing these days in sports.

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Speaker 5: You know you talked about I sent you guys stuff too,

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Speaker 5: and and and that's more my information that I'm willing

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Speaker 5: to share, right But I don't. I don't coach any

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Speaker 5: teams like I'm getting the information fair and square based

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Speaker 5: off of my process and I'm just sharing.

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Speaker 1: It with you.

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Speaker 5: It's different when you're the originator of that information. Just

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Speaker 5: like our other pal that I know that Brian wants to.

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Speaker 3: T oh, you know that's the thing, the originator of information.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely right, and Rich mentioned a red flag, nothing

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Speaker 3: but green and seckered flags with one Isaac Low.

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Speaker 2: And crawn I low with the latest. What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Bud built a name during this report?

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Speaker 6: Whoa, how's that?

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Speaker 4: Low?

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Speaker 1: Dark?

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Speaker 4: For a second?

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Speaker 2: Everything go okay? Were you were you like emotional? Were

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: you wiping tears away with that intro?

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Speaker 9: You know you know me so well? I think you

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Speaker 9: know me better than I know myself. Perhaps? Yeah, man, yeah,

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Speaker 9: you're right.

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Speaker 10: We kind of go down a dark path, kind of

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Speaker 10: a dark path at the Kentucky Derby this morning because

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Speaker 10: the favorite for the race, Forte, was scratched this morning.

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Speaker 10: Fourteen was said to go off at three to one odds.

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Speaker 10: Fort's owner, Mike Ripoli, said that a Kentucky State Horse

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Speaker 10: Racing commissioned veterinarian scratched Forte after a workout this morning

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Speaker 10: because of a bruised right front foot that the horse

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Speaker 10: sustained earlier this week.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Gallas, great you guys watching down at the Galla.

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Speaker 12: Gray came off. They said he was off a tick.

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Speaker 12: It's objective, man, he was not. It was not like

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Speaker 12: an obvious yeah, seem fine to me. I look a

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Speaker 12: lot worse than him. I think they were overly cautious,

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Speaker 12: but I have to understand and respect the fact that

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Speaker 12: they're overly cautious.

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Speaker 10: That audio courtesy of WDRB Television. Rapoli went on to

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Speaker 10: express frustration about the consistency of scratching decisions from state

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Speaker 10: to state. In Game three of the NBA's Western Conference

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Speaker 10: semi Finals on Friday night, Devin Booker the Phoenix Sun

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 10: scored forty seven and their one twenty one to one

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Speaker 10: to fourteen win over Denver, which still leads the series

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Speaker 10: two games to one. Booker was twenty out of twenty

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Speaker 10: five from the field. Kevin Durant added thirty nine points,

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Speaker 10: nine rebounds, and eight assists. In Game three of the

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Speaker 10: Eastern Conference semi Finals, the Boston Celtics won at Philadelphia

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Speaker 10: one fourteen to one to two for a two games

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Speaker 10: to one lead. Jason Tatum led him with twenty seven,

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Speaker 10: James Harden and Philly just three out of fourteen from

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Speaker 10: the field. And In Major League Baseball on Friday night,

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Speaker 10: Fernando Tatist Junior hit two home runs off of Clayton

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Speaker 10: Kershaw as the Padres beat the Dodgers five to two,

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Speaker 10: breaking the Dodgers six game winning the streak. Fellas, let

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Speaker 10: your derby continue.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I Low It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

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Speaker 3: it when we're talking about the upcoming Kentucky Derby today,

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Speaker 3: is yeah, there have been horses that have died, four

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Speaker 3: of them this week, and I can understand the need

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Speaker 3: to be extra cautious because there's such the entire sport

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Speaker 3: is under the microscope right now. But the other side

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Speaker 3: of this is Micropoli, who owns the horse who's the

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Speaker 3: odds on favorite to win the derby, and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: agree that he should be scratched. But he's like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they're overly cautious, But what am I gonna do.

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Speaker 3: That's the other side of it. When a horse might

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Speaker 3: be healthy enough to run where you can win a

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Speaker 3: small fortune in the glory and everything that comes along

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Speaker 3: with it, that's the other side of playing it safe.

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Speaker 3: But I can understand why based on the backdrop this week,

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Speaker 3: especially yeah.

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Speaker 4: This the you know, timing is everything in this world,

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Speaker 4: as we all know, and your environment can dictate outcomes

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Speaker 4: sometimes and I think that's probably more of what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Although we don't know. I mean, this scratch could have

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Speaker 4: come regardless, it definitely feels like the atmosphere of the

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Speaker 4: week leading up to the Derby is a big reason

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Speaker 4: for this scratch. I will say this though, on the

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Speaker 4: backside of these horses careers, the amount of money you

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Speaker 4: get paid to stut out horses, you know, to have

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Speaker 4: a horse sire, you know, multiple offspring that can net

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Speaker 4: you millions, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: over the course of the rest of the life of

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Speaker 4: these horses. Proceeding with caution in certain circumstances is probably

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 4: the best path forward because there are certain instances where,

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Speaker 4: you know, out of you know, kind of humanity to

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 4: these horses, there's nothing you can do. After a certain injury,

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 4: you have to put a horse down, and those are

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Speaker 4: extremely sad moments and they're really expensive moment moments for

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Speaker 4: the horse owners. So that's a part of the equation too.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't get discussed a lot, but that absolutely came

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Speaker 4: up in conversation this week. I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's weird right now, the entire sport unfortunately,

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 5: it is kind of a black cloud.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest. So I got in. So my

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Speaker 1: grandfather's actually huge in the horse racing.

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Speaker 5: You know, he owned a trotter horse, which is one

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Speaker 5: of the ones in the harness and so I was

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Speaker 5: into at a younger age and and it kind of

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Speaker 5: sparked a little bit of betting, you know, vibes in me.

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Speaker 5: And then later on during the pandemic, horse racing was

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Speaker 5: one of the only shows in town. And it was

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Speaker 5: right when quarantine hit March April twenty twenty. He still

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Speaker 5: a Gulf Stream going, you had a lot of other

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 5: tracks going. And I got into it again and there

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 5: were a lot of the same obviously a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a different hint during the pandemic, but a lot

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Speaker 5: of those same questions about the ways the horses were

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Speaker 5: being treated and the health and the safety protocols during

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Speaker 5: the pandemic. A lot of that stuff has now carried

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Speaker 5: over post pandemic life, and it's tough because it is

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Speaker 5: the sport of kings, but it's also a sport that

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 5: has taken a lot of scrutiny, and I am seeing

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 5: the most obviously this week. It has more eyeballs on it.

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Speaker 5: So if you want to raise awareness to an issue,

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 5: this is the week to do it, because everyone's talking

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Speaker 5: about horse racing and I've seen a lot more of

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Speaker 5: these questions and concerns being brought up about the health

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Speaker 5: and efty of the horses this week than other weeks,

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 5: obviously again because it's Derby week, but it still begs

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 5: the question, what is the sport doing wrong? How can

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01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 5: we fix it? I don't know the answers to those questions. Again,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a big time horse guy, like I enjoy it,

1442
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 5: you know, sparingly when it's kind of talked about a

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 5: little bit here in the public spotlight. But there are

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 5: a lot of really difficult questions that need answers, and unfortunately,

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to be answered this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think part of it is what we're seeing

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: right here with Ripoli's horse. You can't prevent every injury

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: which results in every death, but you can be overly

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: cautious at times. And I think that would lessen the

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: amount of carnage, if you will. And Rich, that's a

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01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 3: great point in terms of Secretariat six hundred and sixty

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: three offspring for old Secretariat over there.

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 1: Not a bad life, Yeah, busy.

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: Secretariot. What is it knocking hoofs? We're not knocking boots.

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 3: We're knocking hooves over there. Oh, we've got Rich Heardenberger.

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: He's got a shaved clavigal Penn State All American, Jared

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01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: Smith FSR betting analyst. He's got a dog named Jackpot.

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Speaker 3: I'm Brian No coming up next. This is not ideal

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Speaker 3: for college football. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Oh, welcome back in. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: and save at Progressive dot Com. Okay, fellas, So this

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Speaker 3: week took a lot of college football.

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Speaker 2: On this show.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 3: This week it was announced that the College football playoff

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01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: when it expands to twelve teams next year in twenty

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: twenty four, there will be games that go head to

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 3: head against the NFL. Not ideal, but there's only so

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 3: much you can do to straight avoid this. This will

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: be the first round, okay, So this will be the

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: first round where there will be one game that is

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Speaker 3: a standalone game on Friday, and then there will be

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Speaker 3: three Saturday games that will go head to head with

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: individual NFL games. Again, not the greatest way to do it,

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 3: but I don't know how you avoid it completely if

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: you have, essentially in college football when it expands next year,

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: four rounds of the playoffs. I don't think you can

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 3: avoid the NFL every single round, right there.

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01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 3: Play four games on Friday, in Audie Vayner, two on Thursday,

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 3: two on Friday. You're not gonna be able to get

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01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: your full TV audience, however you slice it.

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: So I was already, you know me, I was ready

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: to bang on college football? And what are you doing?

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01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: Are you out of your mind? I just don't think

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: there's any great way you can do it.

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there really isn't. And I mean, look, there

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Speaker 4: are two schools of thought when it comes to like

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Speaker 4: businesses and and really I'm gonna focus on startups, but

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01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 4: also this this, uh, this really does apply to like

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Speaker 4: business is sustaining. Also, like say say you're you're looking

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Speaker 4: for a location for your business. You have this thriving, booming,

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Speaker 4: bustling metropolis, but you're gonna have competitors on every corner

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Speaker 4: where you're planning on putting your storefront. Well, the thing is,

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Speaker 4: it could work out for you because if everybody knows

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Speaker 4: that's where you go to get the products, and then

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden they see your storefront, or word

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Speaker 4: of mouth spreads that, like, hey, just down the road

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01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: from that one diner you really like eating at, there's

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 4: an even better diner. Like you know, sometimes being near

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: your competition can actually help you. Whereas if you put

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: your your your new business, your your restaurant, whatever it is,

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01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 4: on some back road, yeah, maybe there's no competition insight,

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 4: but also where are people gonna find you? You know,

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01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 4: So if you if you bury every single one of

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 4: your games throughout the day on a Friday while everybody's

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 4: still at work, you know, I mean, is that going

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: to get your ratings? If you're hiding if you're trying

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 4: to do weekday games during your own postseason, you know,

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: doesn't that diminish maybe the uh, you know, some of

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 4: some of the esteem that you've built up over the years,

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01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 4: because it's really gonna look like you're waving the flag

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01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 4: and saying, yeah, we're not popular enough to hang on

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 4: a weekend when the NFL is going. I think I

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01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: think it works. I honestly do. I don't think the

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 4: rat I don't think the ratings will be punished insanely

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: over this. And like you said, Brian, like what else

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: can you do? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Multiple screens, guys, Yeah, there you go, you go. I mean,

1524
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 5: I've got three of them that I'm staring at right now.

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 5: They're all dark because nothing's on. But let's say, for instance,

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01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 5: when we did this show during college football season, and

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 5: we would get off the air at noon Eastern and

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 5: there would be ten games on. I watched as many

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 5: of them as I possibly could. Is it the ideal scenario, No,

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 5: of course not. But there's only so many days in

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 5: the week, and you're not going to play them on

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 5: a Monday or Tuesday. And even if you did play

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 5: them on Monday, I gus if January, there's no more

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 5: Monday Night football. But you get the point. There's only

1535
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 5: so many days in the week. You can only do

1536
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 5: so much maneuvering. I think the College Football Playoff will

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 5: be fine. I don't think it will have a big impact.

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Speaker 3: I think it will help because those first round games,

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01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: those will be at home campuses. Yeah, so if you're

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01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: going head to head with the NFL, that's a little

1541
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 3: seasoning to maybe, Hey, check this out. It beats it

1542
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 3: being at a neutral site, you know, in terms of

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: the excitement level and just the energy and the buzz.

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 3: And I honestly think that every college football Playoff game

1545
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: except for the championship game should be at home campuses.

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: That's the magic of college football and that would absolutely

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01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: strengthen the regular season. Also, they should take a page

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01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 3: from the NFL and do that immediately.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree at all. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

1550
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 4: the college campus makes college football. Home stadiums make college

1551
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 4: football totally.

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01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: Hey, coming up, what's the best and the worst QB

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01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,440
Speaker 3: division in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We will compare notes. Oh, what's going on Happy Saturday? Too?

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Speaker 3: You we're talking QB's best and worst divisions in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So now that we have the draft in the rearview

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Speaker 3: mirror and we know who went where, we can look

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: at these qbs division by division and do a little

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 3: roundtable discussion best and worst divisions, just this season, not

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Speaker 3: projecting the next five ten years, just the here and

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Baby, I'll give you the cliffs Notes

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01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 3: version on the best. To me, I think it comes

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01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 3: down to the AFC East and the AFC West, And

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01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 3: I'd actually go with the East. I think top to bottom,

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01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 3: that's where the best quarterbacks are.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you it fast. If you go, you know,

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01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: tail of the tape.

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Speaker 3: If you will Aaron Rodgers versus Mahomes, that's advantage Mahomes.

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01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't think anybody reasonably would dispute that.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: Here and now, if you go the next three I

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: think it's advantage AFC East Bill's quarterback Josh Allen versus

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01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 3: Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert Close. I would take Allen Allen.

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01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: It provides a little bit more with his legs than

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01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 3: Herbert does.

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Speaker 2: I'd go Alan.

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Speaker 3: Would you go Tua or Russell Wilson? I think right

1583
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 3: now it's greatly advantaged Tua. The only knock on him

1584
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: is the health is can he remain healthy? Can he

1585
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,480
Speaker 3: remain upright? Mac Jones of the Patriots versus Jimmy Garoppolo

1586
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: of the Raiders, they're kind of looking they at each

1587
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 3: other with the Spider Man meme, you know, pointing at

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01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 3: each other.

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Speaker 2: Almost the same guy.

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Speaker 3: But I think if if Mac Jones had what Jimmy

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 3: has had with the forty nine Ers, and Jimmy has

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: had a defensive coordinator calling plays offensively last year like

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: Mac had and Jacoby Myers and Nelson Agalor, it's complete

1594
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 3: role reversal. I think Mac is actually better than Jimmy

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01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: g I go AFC East top to bottom as the

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Speaker 3: best QB division.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really appreciate the the thought that went into it.

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 4: Comparing them one to one, I would agree with you overall, right,

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Speaker 4: Like I think when you compare player to player, for

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01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 4: whatever reason, I see it almost the same exact way.

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: But then I started thinking about the teams and again,

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 4: on paper is everything right now? Like we're not talking

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01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: about any of the matchups being played out on paper,

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 4: thinking about the help and the cast that these quarterbacks

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01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 4: have around them, including coaching. I kind of like the

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01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: AFC West better, you know. I mean, the Chargers added

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01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 4: more offensive weapons for Herbert Mahomes. Obviously with Andy Reid

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: it almost doesn't matter who they're paired with offensively, but

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Speaker 4: Galcey is still there. Russell Wilson, I really do love

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01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 4: the skill around Denver and Sean Payton coming in I

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Speaker 4: think is going to make this work. I think Nathaniel

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01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 4: Hackett was a bad administrator. If Sean Payton can't get

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 4: the most out of Russell Wilson, then Russell Wilson's officially broken.

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Speaker 4: And then Jimmy Garoppolo, I mean, in every comparison, I

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01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 4: like him better than I like Mac Jones right now

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 4: at this point in both of their careers, So I

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Speaker 4: think I would go with the West. But this is

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Speaker 4: a close race, and the fact that Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 4: now in the AFC East makes the argument a lot

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Speaker 4: more difficult to make for the West.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you sent this last I didn't go to

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Speaker 5: bed until later, so I like stared at this list.

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Speaker 5: You know, Brian sent around the list of all the

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks last night, giving us a little I appreciate this

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Speaker 5: because I would have had to make this chart on

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Speaker 5: my own, So you saved me about twenty minutes this morning.

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Speaker 1: But when I was staring at it, I was trying.

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Speaker 5: I went bottom up, right, like I looked at the bottom,

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Speaker 5: because I'm assuming you ranked this by how you feel

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Speaker 5: each quarterback is right, Yeah, pretty much like you ranked

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Speaker 5: it like Mahomes is at like the list that Brian

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01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 5: Sennis Mahomes at the top of the West, and then Herbert,

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Speaker 5: then Wilson and Jimmy Kin. So I went bottom up

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01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 5: and I tried to find a guy at the bottom

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Speaker 5: of the list, the fourth quarterback on the list that

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Speaker 5: I would be very excited about. And I think in

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01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 5: the AFC North was the was the division that I

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01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 5: got excited about the fourth quarterback, and that was Kenny

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01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 5: Pickett because when I look at what Pittsburgh is and

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Speaker 5: what they're building, and Picket being a first round pick,

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01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 5: maybe a little under the radar first round pick fell in.

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Speaker 1: The draft last year.

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Speaker 5: But then I look at the top and I get

1645
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 5: excited about Joe Burrow, and I think Watson there's upside

1646
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 5: there too. Lamar Jackson, of course, just signs a new contract.

1647
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 5: We feel differently about him. Like, I'm trying to go

1648
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 5: contrainer in here, because obviously the Afcast with Aaron Rodgers,

1649
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 5: scotsh Allen, the AC West with the Holmes and Herbert, like,

1650
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Speaker 5: it's hard to find two quarterbacks at the top of

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01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 5: a division that have that kind of yeah explosion. But

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 5: at the bottom, I'm trying to think, who's the best

1653
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 5: of the worst quarterbacks on this list? I think it's

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 5: the AFC, you know, I think Kenny Pickett of all

1655
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: the courts. So here are the quarterbacks that Brian listed

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01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 5: fourth in the divisions, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Anthony Richardson,

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 5: Jimmy g Sam Howell, Jordan Love Baker, Mayfield, Brock Purdy.

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Speaker 5: I think of those eight, I would take Picket, right,

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Speaker 5: Am I crazy?

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Speaker 1: There? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Of the so of those you would take him first

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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 1: Eight before definitely before Mac Jones.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely before Richardson definitely before Baker fin the lead,

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Speaker 5: before Sam Howell. I think you could make a case

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Speaker 5: that we don't know enough about Jordan Love to make

1667
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 5: an accurate claim on how good he really is. Ye

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01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: for example, he might not be the worst. Like right

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01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 5: now he's ranked as the worst quarterback in the NFC North.

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Speaker 5: We might we might feel very differently about that come

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01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 5: December in the NFC South Baker Mayfield, I know, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then Brock with the injury. Like, if Brock's healthy,

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 5: I take Brock, But when's Brock gonna play? I have

1674
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 5: no idea. So I think of the eight fourth place guys,

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01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 5: the eight cabooses, I think take Kenny Pickett. But I

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01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 5: am open to interpretation and and and changes of my

1677
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 5: opinion based off of your responses.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey man, in that if it's uh, you're looking

1679
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: at the fourth place guys, and of course this is

1680
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: you know, subjective to say the least you know, but

1681
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Speaker 3: you could look at two and three. Do you like

1682
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and Tua better than Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson.

1683
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: I would say yes, it's pretty close, isn't it.

1684
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 5: I would say yes, but only because I just don't

1685
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 5: know what Deshawn's going to be in Cleveland yet, we

1686
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 5: don't have enough of a sample size to make a

1687
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 5: reasonable claim on him yet.

1688
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: Really, frankly, he could be.

1689
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 5: He could like, for example, Deshaun Watson could end up

1690
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 5: being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL next

1691
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 5: year if Noust the light switch turns on, or it

1692
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 5: could be the worst. Like that's the the like to

1693
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 5: me the AFC North, I think because of Lamar and

1694
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 5: Deshawn's unpredictability and the uncertainty, the volatility could be to

1695
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 5: the upside Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson, like DeShawn had

1696
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 5: MVP vibes and Lamar was the MVP, but the downside

1697
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 5: I think, like the ceiling is higher, the floor is lower,

1698
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 5: right where with Josh Allen and Tua, I think it's

1699
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 5: a little more stable.

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01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: I'll just say this real quick, rich is Man, you

1701
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: think about the supporting cast and how much it matters

1702
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 3: before we get to the worst division. Think about Mac

1703
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Jones and a couple other guys Jimmy Garoppolo and Kenny Pickett.

1704
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Yep okay, Jimmy g has had Deebo, Samuel Brandon, I Yuke,

1705
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: George Kittle, that's a who's who's supporting cast. Now he's

1706
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: got Davonte Adams, like arguably the best receiver with the Raiders.

1707
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: Mac Jones hasn't had half of that. Look at Kenny Bickett.

1708
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett has had, George Pickens, Pat Fryarmuth, He's had

1709
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 3: way more talent around him than Mac Jones has had.

1710
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying mac Jones is walking on quarterback water.

1711
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: I just think that sometimes we're prone to give up

1712
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 3: on a guy too early. Where two is a great example.

1713
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 3: Two his first year not the greatest. Then all of

1714
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: a sudden they get tyreek Hill and they get Jalen Wattle,

1715
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 3: and what do you know, the numbers are dramatically better.

1716
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: I think the numbers could be dramatically better for mac

1717
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 3: Jones surrounded with comparable talent.

1718
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't. I don't disagree with that. It's

1719
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 4: sort of the way I look at a quarterback is

1720
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 4: I don't base it off of potential as much as

1721
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 4: off of what they've done.

1722
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Totally in this league.

1723
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: And Jimmy Garoppolo has done more, played in bigger games,

1724
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 4: more dependable in those moments than Mac Jones has shown

1725
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 4: He's had one playoff appearance, and it was a complete

1726
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 4: flame out by the Patriots against the Bills. His rookie year.

1727
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 4: I thought it was a solid rookie year though, And

1728
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 4: in year two, I'll make some excuses for him because

1729
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 4: they made some inexplicable coaching decisions with the offensive staff.

1730
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, just in terms of who I trust more

1731
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 4: right now in their careers, Mac Jones with the current

1732
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 4: staff and roster, or Jimmy Garoppolo with the current staff

1733
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 4: and roster again reuniting with Josh McDaniels in Raiderland with

1734
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams as you mentioned, I mean, there's no question

1735
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 4: in my mind Jimmy g But moving on to the

1736
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 4: worst starting quarterback?

1737
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that?

1738
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 4: Oh Man?

1739
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's easier to pick the worst than the best, right,

1740
01:29:58,680 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: and this.

1741
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 4: With without question, was easy for me, And I'm really

1742
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 4: curious how you guys thought about it. I just kind

1743
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 4: of tip my hand. I don't really base it off

1744
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 4: of potential, you know, I base it off of what

1745
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 4: you've done for me lately outside of Trevor Lawrence in

1746
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: the AFC South. Yeah, I mean, is there a quarterback

1747
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 4: that really blows your doors off. I mean, everything is

1748
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: potential with Stroud and Richardson, and those are two teams

1749
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 4: who are at the top of the draft because they're lousy.

1750
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 4: Tannehill has been kind of, you know, mister hanging on

1751
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 4: to second tier quarterback rankings since he's been in the league,

1752
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence is a budding star. There's no question

1753
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: about it. So yeah, for me, it was easy. It's

1754
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 4: the AFC South that is the worst quarterback division until

1755
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 4: until we actually see rubber meat the road with Stroud

1756
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 4: and Richardson.

1757
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 5: Guys aren't excited about I was gonna say, you know,

1758
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 5: I know Brian's answer here, but you guys aren't excited

1759
01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 5: about the first round trio of where I guess will

1760
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 5: fell out of the first round, but the high quarterback

1761
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,799
Speaker 5: drafted trio of Levis Stroud and Richardson.

1762
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Brian, I'll tee that up for you, my friend. I'll

1763
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: start with CJ if you want.

1764
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, if we're talking just twenty twenty three,

1765
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: we know how it typically goes with rookie quarterbacks. Mat

1766
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 3: you go back a couple of years ago, Trevor Lawrence

1767
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 3: had more interceptions than touchdowns Justin Field's the same thing,

1768
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson the same thing. Like that's typically the way

1769
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: it goes. So if we're looking at who's going to

1770
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 3: be more productive justin twenty twenty three, I'll take the

1771
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 3: NFC South over the AFC South. I'll take Derek Carr,

1772
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, Desmond Ridder, and Baker Mayfield. It sounds outlandish

1773
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 3: to say that because Bryce Young's a rookie. Desmond Ridder

1774
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 3: he started what four games, threw a little over one

1775
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 3: hundred passes last year. It's not like he's a grizzled

1776
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 3: veteran or anything, but he's had more snaps, he's had

1777
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 3: more seasoning. I just don't expect much from either Will Levis,

1778
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: C J. Stroud or Anthony Richardson in year one. I mean,

1779
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 3: you throw this, maybe the one two punch is better

1780
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 3: in the AFC South if you consider Trevor Lawrence and

1781
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill. I mean, we're considering who you're comparing it to.

1782
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,759
Speaker 3: In the NFC South, it's Derek Carr, and who who's

1783
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 3: the next guy in terms of the best production?

1784
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 4: Is it Baker?

1785
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I think there's upside with Ritter and

1786
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons.

1787
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 5: I do like Arthur Smith a lot, and I think

1788
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: second year in that scheme, you know, Desmond didn't play

1789
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 5: a ton last year. He had a chance to learn.

1790
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 5: Even though Marcus Mariot is not exactly Confucius when it

1791
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 5: comes to quarterback play, I think they're still up.

1792
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I think I think Atlanta does have some upside.

1793
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 5: He's also got arguably the best running back perhaps in

1794
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 5: the draft, right like.

1795
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: Bijon sprinkle some Bjeon On little Ritter action.

1796
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: Maybe who's got a better one two combo all yew.

1797
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: With al Jier two?

1798
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 4: I agree.

1799
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 5: I think I think the Falcons because of the division

1800
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 5: they play in and because of who their offensive coordinator is,

1801
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 5: right like, they have to be the best offense in

1802
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 5: that division, Like there is no other way around it.

1803
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 5: The only way they're successful is if that offense with

1804
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith pulling the strings is just explosive.

1805
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well yeah, And I do like Arthur Smith too.

1806
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 4: I think that he got a lot out of Ryan Tannehill,

1807
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 4: where nobody really saw the value there, and then the

1808
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans sort of carried the torch from there and

1809
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 4: that's how he earned his bones as a head coach

1810
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 4: in this league. I don't know, man, though, you're putting

1811
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 4: a lot of faith in players that we have very

1812
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 4: little knowledge of. True And to me, look, I was

1813
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 4: a rookie once in the NFL. You can't trust a

1814
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 4: rookie in the NFL. You have no idea what they're

1815
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 4: going to do when they're asked to play against grown

1816
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 4: men who've been doing this for a career for five years,

1817
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 4: eight years, ten years. You know, defenses that have been

1818
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 4: feasting on mistakes of young players you know have played

1819
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 4: together for multiple years. It's it's a completely different level

1820
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 4: of play bryce young you know, CJ. Stroud, Will Levis,

1821
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. These guys may or may not catch up fast.

1822
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 4: But the one thing I can promise you is you

1823
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 4: can't put a lot of faith in a rookie because

1824
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 4: it's the outlier, and it's the rare outlier that really

1825
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 4: shines when they're thrown into the cauldron. It's it isn't easy.

1826
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 4: It isn't easy. That's the reason why we remember the

1827
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 4: great ones. You know, like RG three's rookie year. We're like,

1828
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like this guy's figured it all out,

1829
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: and then he found out real quick that the NFL

1830
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 4: is really difficult, and you get hurt and you get

1831
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 4: banged around, and you know, sometimes you can't catch that

1832
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 4: lightning in the bottle again. You know, the same way

1833
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning, he's a Hall of Famer. Look at his

1834
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 4: rookie year. It sucked year two, year three, year four.

1835
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 4: I mean he started figuring it out and he became

1836
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. But it's tough. It's tough start

1837
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: nowt at that level.

1838
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: I just I keep on banging the drum. I think

1839
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 2: c J.

1840
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 3: Stroud is really gonna struggle his rookie year because the

1841
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 3: talent that he left at Ohio State and the lack

1842
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 3: of talent he has in Houston at a much higher level.

1843
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 3: It's night and day he will. We have these mock

1844
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 3: drafts coming out for twenty twenty four. Marvin Harrison Junior.

1845
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 3: It could be the number two overall pick and a

1846
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 3: Mecca A Buka. He might be a first rounder as well.

1847
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 3: If that's the case, it certainly will be with Marvin

1848
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. But if Abuka goes in the first.

1849
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: Round, c J.

1850
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 3: Stroud will have five first round wide receivers over the

1851
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 3: last two seasons at Ohio State.

1852
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Five guys like he doesn't have that.

1853
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 3: In Houston this year, and there are reports that he

1854
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 3: went to management and said, can you draft Tank Dell

1855
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 3: o wide receiver in the third round?

1856
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 4: And they did.

1857
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, can you give me somebody please?

1858
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 3: Like either they agreed with him or they listen and

1859
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 3: they just went out and did it to appease him.

1860
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, I mean to that point,

1861
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 4: outside of Dell, and look, Dell hasn't played a snap

1862
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 4: in the NFL either, So maybe when he's going against

1863
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 4: press coverage or or these complex, you know, coverage schemes

1864
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: against him, maybe he struggles to Robert Woods like that

1865
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: is your best receiver right now on the field. And

1866
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: outside of him, I mean, it is truly a who's who,

1867
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 4: including Tank, Dell, of Nicocollins and Mechi the third.

1868
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: And I hope Metchi gets some run this year.

1869
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 5: I really do that that whole situation in the National

1870
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 5: Championship Game changed the outcome of that.

1871
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: No, I get it.

1872
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And man, I think it's gonna be

1873
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: like justin fields, justin fields. When he left Ohio State

1874
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 3: and he went to the Bears, I think in terms

1875
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 3: of supporting cast. It's like a carbon copy with what CJ.

1876
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Stroud is leaving at Ohio State, what's not around him

1877
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: with the Houston Texans, at least initially.

1878
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 2: That's why.

1879
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 3: Man, this this Will Anderson junior trade, it has the

1880
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,879
Speaker 3: potential to be an all time stinker.

1881
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: He better be Bruce Smith.

1882
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: He really has to be. He's gotta be Derek Thomas.

1883
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith.

1884
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 4: You know what we talked about.

1885
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts.

1886
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 5: Overall is the NFC West, you know, and that division,

1887
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 5: in my eyes, used to be like the division in

1888
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 5: football for a number of years, super Bowl contender, super

1889
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 5: Bowl winners. And now you get Stafford, who we have

1890
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 5: no idea what his situation is, Kyler Murray, we have

1891
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 5: no idea what his situation is. Brock Perdy, we have

1892
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 5: no idea what his situation is. And then there's Geno Smith.

1893
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 5: And it kind of is funny because I think, I

1894
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 5: think I feel okay with the opinion that Seattle had

1895
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 5: the best draft of any team in that division. I mean,

1896
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 5: I know the Niners didn't have a ton of picks

1897
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 5: and the Rams didn't have a ton of picks. Arizona

1898
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 5: went a line not very sexy but I really like

1899
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 5: what Seattle's cooking there, and I know Gino's got, you know,

1900
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 5: a little runway left in the tank. I could see

1901
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 5: them having a really good year. And they are not

1902
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 5: the favorite to win that division, and maybe they should be,

1903
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 5: or at least should be a lot closer to the

1904
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 5: top of the odds board. Right now, the Niners are

1905
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 5: minus money to win that division. I don't think that

1906
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 5: price is right. That price makes no sense to me.

1907
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: No, I hear you on that.

1908
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: All right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State, all American. Rich,

1909
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 3: Are you wearing a tight black shirt?

1910
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 4: Tell me you are Navy? Yeah, Navy, but I will

1911
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: say it it's tight.

1912
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 3: Got judge FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Slash match.

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01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 3: Can I interest you guys in a couple of twenty

1923
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 3: twenty four NFL mock drafts?

1924
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Huh you ready for this?

1925
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? But sure? Why not?

1926
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 3: So we get a couple of uh cracks at it

1927
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 3: where the Arizona Cardinals might have the number one overall pick.

1928
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 3: Arizona's probably gonna be terrible, and they also have the

1929
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: Houston Texans first round pick and they're probably gonna be

1930
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Speaker 3: terrible as well. So the question is this, if the

1931
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals have the number one overall pick, do they

1932
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:42,799
Speaker 3: go with a quarterback?

1933
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: Do they go with Caleb.

1934
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Williams out of USC And here's one thing to consider.

1935
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's cap hits from twenty twenty four to twenty

1936
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 3: six are all north of fifty million dollars. Okay, So

1937
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: if you move on from Kyler Murray, I mean, if

1938
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 3: you trade him, Like, there's significant amount of salary cap

1939
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 3: ramifications involved in what you do with Kyler Murray if

1940
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 3: you go with the QB. So with that being said,

1941
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 3: I think some of it is tied to what Kyler

1942
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 3: does this season. Does he get on the field, how

1943
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 3: does he look, does he look like he's healthy?

1944
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean does he look good?

1945
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 3: You know, they might not go with the QB, they

1946
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 3: might trade down and take all that draft capital. But man,

1947
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 3: you got to ask yourself, is Kyler Murray our future?

1948
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 3: Do we stand a better chance of winning big with

1949
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray or Caleb Williams? And I don't know that

1950
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 3: your answer is going to be Kyler Murray at the

1951
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 3: end of this season.

1952
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 4: Well, look, Kyler Murray is a leftover from the last regime, right, Yeah,

1953
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 4: So if it's going great with Kyler Murray, you're not

1954
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 4: necessarily gonna get all the Kyler Murray credit because it

1955
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 4: has looked great in the past with Kyler Murray. You know,

1956
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. You know, with with a new

1957
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 4: coach and a new system and maybe some accommodations made

1958
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 4: or changes made or adjustments made, he can they can't

1959
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 4: highlight further talent from Kyler because that absolutely can be

1960
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 4: the case. But if it's not going great, like if

1961
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 4: it's going even just good or fair or bad, yeah,

1962
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 4: then I could very easily see the Arizona Cardinals moving on,

1963
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 4: moving on from Kyler Murray. Because again, it's like it's

1964
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 4: like if you you picked up a half written essay

1965
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 4: put some finishing touches on it and said, hey, it's

1966
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 4: a finished work. Don't I get all the credit? No,

1967
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 4: some other GM drafted him, some other coach you know,

1968
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 4: broke him into the NFL. That isn't You don't get

1969
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 4: the full report or the full report card grade for

1970
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 4: all the all the you know, but if if Kyler struggles,

1971
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 4: or if he's not completely healthy, or you know, he

1972
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: starts the season a little bit slow and finishes or

1973
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 4: finishes the season strong, but you miss the postseason. Yeah,

1974
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,879
Speaker 4: I could. I could see very easily the Arizona Cardinals,

1975
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 4: regardless of where they land in this next draft, picking

1976
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 4: a quarterback at the top of the draft, trading up

1977
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 4: if they have to, because I could see the new

1978
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 4: regime wanting to have a have a reset button pressed

1979
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 4: before the upcoming twenty twenty four season.

1980
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 5: Well, you said new regime and that's the key, Yeah,

1981
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon, new head coach, get Martin Austin forked, Yeah,

1982
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 5: it was.

1983
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Right off the tongue, right from Laverne, Minnesota.

1984
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 5: I just did a brief deep dive into him because

1985
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 5: I didn't know a whole lot about him, frankly until the.

1986
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Draft money money, Well, their opening's money.

1987
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 5: I mean, this was a guy that was the director

1988
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 5: of player personnel for the Titans for a few years,

1989
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 5: and Rich maybe he scouted you, Bud. He was a

1990
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:01,560
Speaker 5: Patriots scout for ten fifteen years, a certain director of

1991
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 5: college scouting national scout for the Pats right when you

1992
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 5: were coming out of school.

1993
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 4: I owe everything to Mount.

1994
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 5: So but my point being, I would say the scouting

1995
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 5: department of the Patriots, Rich included, did a pretty good

1996
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,879
Speaker 5: job in those late two thousand and five ten twenty

1997
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 5: fifteen years, right like they did. Okay, A lot of

1998
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 5: good young players came up through that organization during that time,

1999
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 5: and they won a lot of Super Bowls, and the

2000
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 5: Titans had a really good run, you know, over the

2001
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 5: last few years as well. So Mani's had the opportunity

2002
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 5: to see success at the top level. Jonathan Gannon was

2003
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 5: in a Super Bowl last year. He's had the opportunity

2004
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 5: to see success at the top level. Meanwhile, the quarterback

2005
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 5: we're discussing has only seen success at the collegiate level.

2006
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 5: I would say, I mean, I know that Cardinals started

2007
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 5: nine to zero a couple years ago and then it

2008
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 5: just it just completely fell off the rails. But obviously

2009
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 5: Kyler had a ton of success the collegiate level, Heisman Trophy,

2010
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 5: all that good stuff, and you know, going I.

2011
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: Think that did they go to the playoff that year

2012
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:03,879
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma?

2013
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 3: I forget they were in the playoff or not, but

2014
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 3: I think they just missed. That was like a close

2015
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: loss to Kansas State year or something like that.

2016
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 1: Get if they went, but I know he was number

2017
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: one pick, you know, Heisman Trophy, all that good stuff.

2018
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 5: So I'm very confident that Kyler is going to have

2019
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 5: success in the right system. But now new system. They

2020
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 5: didn't pick Kyler, So that really is the is the

2021
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 5: question that we'll ask ourselves, and I'm sure that question

2022
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 5: will be answered throughout the long haul of the regular season.

2023
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 5: Hopefully Kyler plays enough for us to get a definitive answer.

2024
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 5: But Manni and Jonathan, the new brain trust there in Glendale,

2025
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 5: they've got some tough decisions to make this year, no doubt.

2026
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: By the way, our trusted producer Bo Benson got in

2027
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 3: my ear and said, Oklahoma made it. Yeah, played they

2028
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 3: played Alabama and then how don't I remember much of

2029
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 3: that destroyed?

2030
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 5: Right?

2031
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: That's right, they got housed in that one.

2032
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 3: You know, what's interesting to me is if you think

2033
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 3: of Kyler Murray and these cap hits, ask yourself, what

2034
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 3: team is trading for Kyler Murray with the money that's

2035
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 3: owed to him.

2036
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 2: So if you don't have someone willing to trade with you.

2037
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 3: If you've got your site set on Caleb Williams, if

2038
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 3: that's your guy, then you're just gonna release them and

2039
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 3: take all those cap hits. So that's where it becomes interesting.

2040
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 3: You might like Caleb Williams better than Kyler Murray, but

2041
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: do you like Caleb Williams better than Kyler Murray? Like

2042
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 3: if you trade it down, maybe three first round picks,

2043
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 3: a second round pick, a third round pick, who knows

2044
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 3: what kind of trade package you would get if you

2045
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 3: trade down and just build a round Kyler Murray. And

2046
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 3: then also, if you go with Caleb and have to

2047
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 3: release Kyler, you're looking at all this dead money that's

2048
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 3: tied up for years, and your salary cap space is

2049
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 3: crimped as a result of that. It's almost like it

2050
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: nullifies the advantage of having a rookie quarterback on a

2051
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 3: rookie deal.

2052
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, I think there'll be a taker though,

2053
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 4: because if Kyler Murray comes back and he can prove

2054
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: that the knee isn't going to be a long standing

2055
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 4: issue with him and his performance. I think there's gonna

2056
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 4: be a team out there that's gonna trade for him.

2057
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: You know, look at the forty nine ers. How much

2058
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 4: of a struggle it is to trade Trey Lance. Why

2059
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,560
Speaker 4: it's because he's barely played. He's already been injured a

2060
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 4: couple of times. There's just no track record in the NFL.

2061
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 4: But when you're a starting quarterback with some wins under

2062
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 4: your belt, when you're a starting quarterback who you know,

2063
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 4: albeit like you know has vanished in the latter part

2064
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 4: of seasons, but has had success, you know there's gonna

2065
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 4: be takers. And then throw on top of it again,

2066
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 4: assuming the knee doesn't hamper him. The athleticism that he

2067
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,480
Speaker 4: has and sort of the instant shock to a struggling

2068
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 4: offense that a player like a Kyler Murray can have

2069
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 4: on your offense. You know, because he is so mobile,

2070
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 4: he'd things don't have to be perfect for him to perform. Now,

2071
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 4: is he a playbook guy? Is he gonna be the

2072
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,560
Speaker 4: guy who walks in the door and day two is

2073
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 4: gonna have the whole playbook down.

2074
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 5: No.

2075
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 4: No, In fact, you hear that from everyone now, or

2076
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 4: shouldn't say everyone, but there's a chorus of people who

2077
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 4: have worked with him in the past who said that

2078
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 4: that's going to be an issue. But yeah, I think

2079
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,679
Speaker 4: there would be a taker in a trade and Arizona Again,

2080
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 4: if you're rebuilding and it's a new regime and you're

2081
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 4: bringing in a whole new level in the front office

2082
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 4: and a whole new level at the coaching staff, and

2083
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray doesn't give you exactly what you want him

2084
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 4: to you, you're probably gonna move on from him and

2085
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna draft somebody else.

2086
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be such a weird year with his quarterbacks, right.

2087
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 5: It is.

2088
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 3: But best case scenario for Arizona is Kyler comes back

2089
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 3: and plays well, so they at least have a chance

2090
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: of trading him if they choose Gira.

2091
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a mid season thing too.

2092
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean that doesn't.

2093
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: Happen a lot in the NFL, but rarely.

2094
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you just I mean, these days, I'll be honest,

2095
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 5: the current state of the sporting climate, I have no

2096
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 5: surprises anymore because every day is like just insane.

2097
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: That would be a surprise somewhere.

2098
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 3: If somebody traded for Kyler Murray fresh off of torn

2099
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 3: acl without seeing him back on the field and doing

2100
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: his thing like that would be a stunner to me.

2101
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 3: But another stunner here is our guy, Isaac Lowenkron. You know,

2102
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 3: that's why he wears his stunner shades all the time.

2103
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 4: That's what he's got the latest year. What's going on?

2104
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 9: I love even indoors.

2105
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 10: Actually, the only person who can really pull that off

2106
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 10: is Jack Nicholson at a Lakers game.

2107
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 9: I suppose, how.

2108
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: About Dwayne Wade. I think Dwayne does a decent job

2109
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 2: to pull it off.

2110
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 9: Well, thank you, I appreciate that.

2111
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 10: Actually, in no rot, it was Dylan Brooks a last

2112
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 10: week after they got eliminated. He was walking back out

2113
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 10: of the arena at night, remember that, and he was

2114
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 10: wearing the shades in the dark. So Jack can pull

2115
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 10: it off. Dylan Brooks not so much, as we have

2116
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 10: all since found out. As morning, Kentucky Derby favorite Forte

2117
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 10: was scratched from the race fourte was set to go

2118
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 10: off at three to one odds. Forte's owner, Mike Ripoli,

2119
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 10: said that a Kentucky State horse racing Commission veterinarian scratched

2120
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 10: Forte after a workout this morning due to a bruised

2121
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 10: right front foot that the horse sustained earlier this week.

2122
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 5: Hey, Galla's great.

2123
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 1: Thanks for you guys watching gallup the gallup great.

2124
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Pale came off.

2125
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 12: They said he was off a tick. It's subjective, man,

2126
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 12: It was not. It was not like an obvious yeah,

2127
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 12: so fine to me. I look a lot worse than him.

2128
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 12: I think they were overly cautious. But I have to

2129
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 12: understand and respect the fact that they're overly cautious.

2130
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 10: That audio courtesy of WDRB Television. Rapoli went on to

2131
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 10: express frustration about the consistency of scratching decisions from state

2132
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 10: to state. In Game three of the NBA's Western Conference

2133
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 10: Semifinals Friday night, Devin Booker dropped forty seven as his

2134
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,719
Speaker 10: Phoenix Suns defeated Denver one twenty one to one fourteen.

2135
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 10: Denver still leads the series two games to one. Booker

2136
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 10: was twenty out of twenty five from the field. And

2137
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 10: Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, the Boston

2138
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 10: Celtics won at Philadelphia one fourteen to one two for

2139
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 10: a two games to one lead and in Major League Baseball.

2140
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 10: On Friday night, Fernando Tatis, junior of the San Diego Padres,

2141
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 10: hit two home runs off of Clayton Kershaw and the

2142
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 10: Padres five to two win over the Dodgers, breaking the

2143
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 10: Dodgers six game winning streak.

2144
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 9: Fellas, let your stunning continue, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I Low, it's Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: By the way, your Padres starting to get some wins

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Speaker 3: over there, Rich, I know you're doing your local show

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01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 3: in San Diego, and I'm jealous right now because my

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01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 3: Saint Louis Cardinals. I wish they had the Padres record,

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01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: and it's not like the Padres are crushing it right up.

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01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 3: My Redbirds are ten and twenty three. Yeah, what is

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 3: happening over there in Saint Louis.

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, it's right, you know, to see a legacy,

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01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 4: traditionally great team faltering and then a team like the

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01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 4: Padres who has been regarded as a almost like a

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Speaker 4: feeder team for the rest of the league, like a

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Speaker 4: Triple A ball club operating as one of the thirty

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01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 4: MLB teams all of a sudden, with a stacked roster,

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01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 4: a pretty loaded up farm system, and prospects to look

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 4: pretty good for a decade. And we got the Dodgers

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01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 4: Series this weekend, and Fernando Tatis Junior, you know, off

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01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 4: the suspension for the banned substances, hits two bombs off

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01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 4: of Kershaw in Game one last night. It was a

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Speaker 4: pretty pretty pretty good start to the early season, to

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Speaker 4: the early season surge. I guess you would call it

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01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 4: because the first thirty games or so it was some good,

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Speaker 4: some bad. But they seem to be catching will fire.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: We love this Padres team, Yeah, we do. They're fine.

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01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 5: I just I don't know what the pitching will hold

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01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 5: up in October. That's always the issue. A couple of

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01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 5: head cases there, Snell being the big one. But man,

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Speaker 5: that lineup.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the Neon uniforms from last night?

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Speaker 4: Oh, the City Connect Jersey. It's not bad. Yeah, they're

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01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 4: very Miami vice, you know.

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Speaker 2: Very much.

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Speaker 4: So. Yeah, like the lime green helmets with the pink

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01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 4: I mean it just looks like, like, you know, we

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01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 4: flashed back to the eighties every time they put them on.

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Speaker 3: And then when Tatis Junior is dancing, I don't know

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01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 3: how you describe it, where he's kind of like hopping

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01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 3: up and turning sort of like each direction. Yeah, in

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01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 3: those uniforms, it's like there are no rules. We have

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01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 3: no rules right now?

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01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, let you you turn off the unwritten rules of baseball,

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01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 4: Like how could you playing beanball against a guy who's

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01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 4: who's dancing in a jersey like that? I mean, I

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01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 4: know it, I know it.

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Speaker 5: Baseball is so different now, guys. I'll be honest, I

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01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 5: really enjoy now. I only watch usually the first innings

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 5: because I bet there's no run, yes, run first inning?

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Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, yeah, they are.

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01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a sweat. You want to

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: talk about a sweat.

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01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 2: First inning and there's a runner on second base, and

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Speaker 2: you're like.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, right right, not even that ball one

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01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 5: top of the first I'm like, god, it's over.

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Speaker 4: It's done.

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01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm screwed. Like those bets are electric.

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01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: But that being said, the rules of the game now

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01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 5: and how it's being you know, I guess the the

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01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 5: optics of it are a lot more entertaining. And I

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01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:35,719
Speaker 5: think we're finally like the the the old school purists

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01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 5: had such a choke hold on the sport for so

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01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 5: many years, and now the grip is being loosen.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:46,679
Speaker 3: I think that bitch clock and more action squicker pace.

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01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 3: I think it's shifted the perspective. I really do, and

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01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 3: now it just feels way more fun. Like the truth is,

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01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 3: there have been fun aspects for a while, but now

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01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 3: that the perspective is different and it's like action action,

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01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 3: it feels more fun.

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01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 2: So that's a good thing for baseball. I think.

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Speaker 2: That's on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Fernando waiting on Kershaw as Grisham leeds.

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01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 4: Here's the pitch.

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01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 2: Fernando hits a missile in the.

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01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 10: Air deep to left field, gonna go online drive home run,

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01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 10: his second.

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Speaker 2: Of the night, and the Padres lead it three to one.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: One of Tatis Junior's two home runs yesterday, as the

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01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 3: Pods beat the Dodgres five to two, our producer Bo

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01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 3: Benson is all ticked off as a Dodgers fan that

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01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 3: they had a crying kershaw pick on.

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01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Social media after the Padres won. It's upset about does

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01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 2: not like that?

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01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I saw it flowing around on social media

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01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 4: and look, all of a sudden, the Padres are about that.

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Speaker 4: Smoke man, Mike.

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01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: They are, Yeah, they.

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01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: Sorry on their video board, not on social media. On

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01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 2: their video board. What do you think about that?

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01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 4: Rich?

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Speaker 3: Real fast, and we're busy here at the end, but

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 3: think about Oregon College football or the Memphis Grizzlies. Real

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01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 3: chatty teams talkative as if they've I don't know, want

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01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 3: a championship before, it'd be hard not to. If you've

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01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 3: stunk for a long time and now you're really really good,

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01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 3: it'd be hard not to be chatty. But uh, the

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01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 3: Padres they joined the chatty list as well.

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01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I like it as a fan. I think

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01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 4: it's interesting, you know, from our standpoint covering sports. But

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01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 4: I remember when I was on the field and like,

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01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 4: for example, I'll give you a perfect example of this.

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01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 4: Like say we're going against a really good pass rusher

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01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 4: and I got Philip Rivers, my quarterback, talking trash to

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Speaker 4: a defensive end like I don't know, von Miller, I mean,

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01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 4: I was the type of guy would be like could

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01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 4: you just like, could you just shut the hell up? Like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that is von f and Miller over there.

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01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 4: I understand, Like we just scored a touchdown and you're

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 4: looking for somebody to chew out. But like that's the

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01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 4: wrong guy, because unlike Dylan Brooks, I'm not about hooking bears.

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 4: You know, I want to tip toe around the cave

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01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 4: and I know, let's let's look nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I know I'll go out and say it, Richard the

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01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: nicest guy I know, but.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, trust me, it wasn't nice. It

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01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 4: was survival.

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01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna say, trust me, there is a dark side

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01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 3: so nice so I Darth Vader.

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01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Top of the Hour up on game, LaVar Arrington, TJ.

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Speaker 3: locked to our clock Sports Radio, and props to the

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Speaker 3: crew as always, our trusted producer Bo Benson, Iowa Sam

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Speaker 3: Technical producer extraordinaire, and the Great Isaac Lowan Crown on

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun here today as.

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01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 3: Well, fellas time for some roundtable gambling talk over here.

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01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 3: What are we looking at either today, tomorrow, the weekend

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01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 3: in general?

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 2: We'll start with you, Jared, what do you like?

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01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 5: No, I hope the Knicks win. I think the numbers

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01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 5: probably fair. Jimmy Butler probably back today, but we don't know,

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01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 5: so maybe best stay away from that if you want

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01:57:59,400 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 5: to bet the pony.

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna wax poetic about my horse expertise, but

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01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 5: I will say this, with all of the scratches, we're

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Speaker 5: down to now eighteen horses in the field, including the

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Speaker 5: favorite which we announced today, have some fun with this Derby.

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Speaker 1: Last year, it was the biggest long shot in the

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01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 1: field that won.

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Speaker 5: Nobody picked that horse, So don't just take the favorite

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01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 5: because they're supposed to win. Have a little fun. I'll

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01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 5: tell you who I'm on. I'm picking the eight horse

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01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 5: mage at seventeen to one. You know why because every

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01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 5: profit Guy made from the purse is going to be

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01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 5: donated to the Kentucky Cancer Center. So I love that story,

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01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 5: and again, have fun with the derby to day. I'm

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01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 5: not a horse expert, but I will be dabbling because

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01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 5: it's one of my favorite events to bet on every year.

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01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like that a lot. All right, I'll

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01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 4: give you one. Been paying close attention to Padres, as

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01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 4: we discussed over the past couple segments. Here Joe Musgrove,

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01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 4: he's trending in the right direction after starting the season

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01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 4: with an injury. I think he's going to be stingy

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01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 4: giving up runs. Dustin May has an amazing start to

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01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 4: his season. I think that even though the bats have

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01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 4: come around recently for the Padres and the Dodgers, respectively.

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Speaker 4: I like the under on the eight and a half

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01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 4: total here tonight, So you know, little marine layer settling

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01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 4: in over the Bay there. Yeah, yeah, San diegologist Extor

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01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 4: might Yeah, it might be a pitcher's duel there at

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 4: Petco Park, So I'm taking the under.

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Speaker 1: I like it well.

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Speaker 3: The roller coaster of the playoffs so far has been

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis of the Lakers.

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01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 2: He's had a.

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01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 3: Great game followed by a horrible game, and then it

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01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 3: just repeats, repeats.

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01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 2: He's due for a great game in Game three.

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01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 3: But I still can't pull the trigger on his prop

2336
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 3: bets here for fourteen and a half rebounds.

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01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 2: He might go over that. I'm not gonna go with it.

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01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 3: I think the Lakers still double steph Curry. I'm gonna

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01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 3: take his assist total over five and a half. I

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01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 3: think he has at least six assists tonight for the Warriors.

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01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 3: But should be a lot of fun. Hey, enjoy your weekend,

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01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 3: enjoy the derby, all the hoops action. We'll catch it soon.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one.