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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, four

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Speaker 1: team year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Anius Williams. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I'm in the

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Speaker 1: s Williams. We've talked about so many serious topics on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, from careers, parenting, finances, and even death. Today

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Speaker 1: we're going to do something completely different. All we're going

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Speaker 1: to do today is talk about our teammates, specifically the

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Speaker 1: funniest teammates we've ever had, and how laughter is such

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Speaker 1: a big part of the NFL experience and probably the

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Speaker 1: thing that most players miss is the experiences in the

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Speaker 1: locker room and these funny teammates. And I think we

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Speaker 1: have the perfect group for the a combination of very

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Speaker 1: funny men and great storytellers. Our first panelist as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's played and started as Brett Farves back up,

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Speaker 1: how you like being introduced as Brett Farves back. I

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Speaker 1: grew up the son of former Patriot Don so that

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Speaker 1: was my middle name, but I guess that's my new

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Speaker 1: middle name exactly. And I'll give you his name to

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Speaker 1: the second. And I also went to Super Bowl, played

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Speaker 1: with four teams, and ended his career as Andrew lux

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Speaker 1: back up, why we keep I'm sorry different He played

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Speaker 1: so long and with so many incredible legends. Matt Hasselback

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Speaker 1: is his name, and we can't wait to hear some

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Speaker 1: of the stories from some of these teammates. And next

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Speaker 1: we have Scott Turner, who played for three different teams

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Speaker 1: and later became a politician. Boy, we can't weak. How

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Speaker 1: about state what we're doing a statesman don't sound so

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Speaker 1: much better? And the States a statesman's and can't wait

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Speaker 1: to his story. And also Matt strong and by the way, guys,

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Speaker 1: for those who are hearing us, he still looks like

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Speaker 1: the prototypical uh fullback. Maybe a little more in the

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Speaker 1: be with you, guys man. And as we we start

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Speaker 1: really just the part, as I said earlier, that we've

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Speaker 1: joking with teammates. And I first would start out saying, okay, Scott,

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Speaker 1: my head is Keith Burned, nickname Tick, Denver Broncos. He

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Speaker 1: We were at our lowest time in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: just come off a big loss, and Tick came in

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Speaker 1: an outfit that literally was a one piece of leotard

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Speaker 1: and the cape and he painted his face. He already

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Speaker 1: the cape and the laundry carts that the equipment guys

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Speaker 1: Locker room is down. Everybody quiet, everybody got the head down.

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. And for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: season everybody will be so. Keith Burns from the Denver

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you like two guys that are not funny,

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Speaker 1: It's funny. He's so funny, but you can't duplicate his

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Speaker 1: you spell Mississippi? You're from there? And he'll be like,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff in his game. But one guy

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Speaker 1: what he's listening to? I'm just curious, And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me that one o'clock. I need

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Speaker 1: tough as you might think. You know, I think about

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Speaker 1: John just now. I've never played with John, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't care if the play was over, you go touch

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Speaker 1: a grown man? Every place? He said, I always wanted

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Speaker 1: to feel. Yeah, what I'm doing right now, you guys

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Speaker 1: Ernie Jones, I think he Ernie went to uh University

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Speaker 1: So I never forget. We're on the bus and Ernie man,

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Speaker 1: he's he's like this nice teammate, this veteran. He comes up.

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Speaker 1: He said, fellas, look at a dog, look a look

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Speaker 1: that's good. Then he looks at me he said, you

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Speaker 1: and I can't emphasize as whoever's listening to a podcast,

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Speaker 1: that make the atmosphere loose. Any guy has come to mind,

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Speaker 1: it's a guy named Reggie Brown, right, I mean, Reggie

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Speaker 1: And I just remember with him, anytime I tried to come,

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Speaker 1: have something that he would I was not known to

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Speaker 1: be the most flexible guy during my career. Again, you

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Speaker 1: But yet he had this long career as a fullback.

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Speaker 1: They've draft guy after god to replace him, and Mac

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Speaker 1: the thing that guys like he's opening it up. I

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Speaker 1: he played how many years did you play fullback? Had

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Speaker 1: all these thousand yard rushers. I'm like, maybe flexibilities overrated

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Speaker 1: All he needed was a foot I needed five. I

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Speaker 1: it's man. So it was on. I sat. He threw

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Speaker 1: But I do it. I do it. I shouldn't. I

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Speaker 1: how important does that? Scott? Well, I think that you

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Speaker 1: our family, and so I would encourage everyone who's listening this,

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Speaker 1: whether you played with them or not. If you're in

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Speaker 1: the shadows, come out, because we have love for you,

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Speaker 1: just like we have love for each other. Here I

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Speaker 1: and I've never been And these times here have ever

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Speaker 1: very important one because we all played this game and world,

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Speaker 1: happened in the locker room what happened in our communion

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Speaker 1: very enriching. And we all have spheres of influence, media,

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Speaker 1: we think about a player calling, right, if somebody's on

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Speaker 1: know what they need. They might need a laugh, or

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Speaker 1: they might need you to pray for all They might

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Speaker 1: need advice whatever it is, but I know that we

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Speaker 1: all have that in us and together were the best

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Speaker 1: we can be. Man As we close, guys, I needed this,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the Legends need this

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Speaker 1: to be reminded about how much we love the guys

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Speaker 1: we played with and how much fun we had played

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Speaker 1: this great game. If he had a teammate you think

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Speaker 1: was the funniest teammate ever, drop his name to the

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Speaker 1: email here listed and maybe he will be on the

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Speaker 1: future Funniest Players podcast. Thank you all, the best is

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Speaker 1: yet to come. Appreciate you guys. Thank you back, keep

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Speaker 1: up great work. This has been the NFL Legends podcast.

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Speaker 1: To provide feedback or requested topic for discussion, email us

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Speaker 1: at NFL Legends at NFL dot com. Yeah,