WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Moving On 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.800 And the official Dallas Cowboys at no. Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:12.520 Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola, and it is officially Raiders 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.279 Week here inside the s WBC podcast studio at the 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:21.320 Star in Frisco, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey's Spagnola. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.600 As we have moved past officially Sunday in Kansas City, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:32.840 and we are looking forward to Red Kettle Day, Thanksgiving Day, 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.879 three thirty on CBS eleven with a lot of prime 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.680 programming leading up to with Hey, he's right for the 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.760 plug and everything right. Yeah, that was so different yesterday. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.760 We were just so even killed, you know, just no crazy, 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.160 no mention of Super Bowls, none of that stuff, man, No, no, no, 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.960 none of that. Yeah, no mention welcome back with MVP. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.000 Yeah man, you know, well I I could have been here, Yes, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.440 we could have used it, specially everybody I'm getting text messages. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.560 It wasn't thirty say where are you that question mark 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:15.200 that you expected us to remember ye days later, Vicky, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.840 I told you five times last week that I wasn't 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.120 going to be here on Monday, three days last. Yeah, game, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.039 the whole game where it happened. Mickey probably got in 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.160 at what six o'clock in the morning one time? Did 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.560 the bus get back to Okay, here you go, got 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.720 to bed at six thirty. There you go. All right, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.760 I'm gonna tell you what I told my wife today. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.839 I was looking for something that's always in the same 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.440 spot and it wasn't there, And I said, you know what, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.399 when you get old, you just leave things where they 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:49.680 are because we can't remember where we put them. Then well, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.480 there on that note, let's move on to what's going 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.360 on here. As there is nobody on the practice field. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.200 There's no equipment on the practice. It was a short practice. Okay. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.360 They started a short week like eleven forty and finished 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.079 by one o'clock. Is this there? I got to hear 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.560 the interviews too. Yeah? Is this their only practice this week? Now? 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.600 They'll go tomorrow. Tomorrow be part mock game. They're walked 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.359 through and part their normal practice on Saturday. When's their 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:28.200 rejuvenation day this week? You just put your stuff on 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.839 and go play. Actually the stay pard was Monday afternoon. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.799 It's called stay and there was Monday afternoon. Monday afternoon, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.560 Well that's usually Monday Monday. Yeah, so nothing, Yeah, nothing changed. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.519 Rejuvenation day is gonna be Friday, yeah, and maybe Saturday too, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.320 and then you got to get back to practice on 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.359 the jubilant. I hope they're jubilant. No, you don't want jubilant. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.359 You need to go place hands on guys to get 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:03.760 them healthy. Okay, you do an injury report. See how 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.919 I set him on the well, yeah, see, I wasn't 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.040 doing that yesterday. I had no idea what we could 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.440 talking about. I think we rambled on and on and 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.520 on the whole all three segments. So it wasn't any 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.680 different than any other. Just one lesson, one less one 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.000 less rambler. Okay, mackey, give us, give us up to speed. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:31.360 What's going on? So McCarthy said that tyring. They listed him, Yes, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.360 they didn't practice yesterday, right right, but they listed him 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.800 as limited. But I think he took part in most 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.400 everything today, like or at least from the start because 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.600 they cut us off early. But he was doing the 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.720 invential drills, the position drills, and it looked like he 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.400 was ready to step in at left tackle. Were you 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.200 surprised that he did not play on Sunday against Kansas City? No, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.640 I was. I was not either. And all these reports 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.000 started coming out like on Friday, Oh, he's gonna play. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.320 If I talked to a member of the media even 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.000 on Thursday, Oh he's gonna play for sure. Yeah. And 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.400 I never got I never thought he was this show. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.560 We never I thought it was still questionable. And as 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.760 Mike said, a lot would determined would be determined by 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:22.760 how Saturday Plant panned out. And uh. And so the 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.880 tweets start coming out on Sunday morning that like, it's 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.760 breaking news that Tyren Smith isn't gonna play today. Yeah, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.080 and I'm like, well, that's not breaking news questions. I mean, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.240 they had to come out with the official list. I 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.920 think it came out on Sunday, and so that's why, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.080 well they also for the Sunday morning shows, you got 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.400 to come out with quote unquote yeah, but I think 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.040 that's what everyone was responding to now, because that the 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.400 list doesn't come out till like an hour and a 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.080 half before kickoff. Okay, so they would they were three 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.640 twenty five game means to like ten minutes to two. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.840 But there was a narrative out there that he was 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.119 going to play on I never never, a matter of fact, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.160 I didn't think he would even just because of what 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.599 we can see the things he was doing out there 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.440 and the times he was kind of standing off to 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.760 the side when they were doing position at individual drills. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.160 He wasn't doing everything. And part of it, in my 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.160 mind on it was, Okay, if he plays Sunday, then 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.320 he's playing Thursday. And so you're asking a guy who's 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.839 coming who's missed a month basically to come play two 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.520 games in five days, right, And it's just like just 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:39.640 like now with DeMarcus Lawrence. Mike said yesterday that he'll 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:44.479 be activated to practice soon. Well, I saw somebody today 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.280 report that he was going to practice this week, and 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.720 that's not what he said, and he wasn't out there today. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.560 He did not say that. Yeah, but he didn't say 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:00.000 he was right, and so it wouldn't make any sense. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.320 It's to start in practicing this week. You get one 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:06.560 practice in, so they'll start him. Well I guess maybe. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.120 I wonder if they consider this week like Saturday. Okay, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.480 we're activating him so he can practice Sunday. But but yeah, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.839 but this week meant so when does the week start 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.800 for the Cowboys when you play Thursday into another thing? 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.080 I would imagine it's on Saturday. That's that's two. That 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.120 would be the Tuesday of a normal work with right, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:32.760 so but not today. So uh and you know, and 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.200 he wasn't practicing today by the way, Uh, Cede Lamb 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.159 was not practicing, But that was expected because you got 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.720 to go through the COVID protocol and you have to 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:48.280 concussion concussion. Yeah, COVID. Sorry, um, somebody else had COVID. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.680 No no, no, no, no no no. The strength Uh, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:59.480 Cedric is it Cedric Smith, Cedric Um, the assistant strength 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.200 So yeah, you gotta I mean, you gotta be so 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:10.320 many days away from the concussion, and then you got 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.760 to go out and do something physically exerting, and then 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.280 you got to show up the next day not having 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.320 any symptoms. So while they're hopeful for him, and yeah, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.960 it's great that he's sitting in meetings, but that doesn't 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:29.520 mean he's good to go. So I would imagine again 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.200 on the practice report, it'll be did not practice and 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.240 then we'll see what happens tomorrow. And and Cedric Smith's 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.239 title assistant strength and Conditioning coach, right, which I believe 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.720 you indicated, And the COVID protocol, Well, there was some 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.400 uncertainty in your voice, so I just well, I was 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.280 trying to memory. I knew I had Cedric right, and 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.600 I'm going, yeah, it is Smith, And then I doubted 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:57.320 myself because he was Emmett's fullback, I believe at Florida 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.840 in college. Yeah, so you had Smith blocking for Smith 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.880 and I was thinking, okay, I confused it, but I didn't. Yeah, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.040 you didn't say am it anywhere in there? No, in 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:12.720 my mind, I was thinking, yes, okay, so we feel like, 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.160 see he's gonna play. I totally up in the air. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.280 They're optimistic, Let's put it that way. There's there you're 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.600 telling me there's a chance he's got he's got a 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.560 ways to go though, yes, because he didn't. We don't 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.520 have a ways to go to It's a short week. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.120 I think if it was a Sunday game, I told 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:33.400 you yes, and if okay, so the physical exertion that 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.160 you're talking about, which he would be doing on his 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.800 own since he wasn't at the workout right, he couldn't 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.959 have done that, can do that on his own, and 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.640 then it would be how he is tomorrow? Correct now? 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.560 Can he have the physical exertion on Wednesday? And then 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.480 how he is on game day can clear him? That 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.040 part I don't know, okay, but it's twenty four hours, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.760 twenty four hours before game time, No, twenty four hours 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.720 to the physical physical that here, you're fine, And he 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.400 would if I remember correctly, on this stuff too, they 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.120 have independent checkers on these concussion stuff because they have 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:15.719 somebody on the sideline that exactly with the league, a 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.200 designated on game days, we know that, but during the 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.800 week as well, there's I think that they may have 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.120 to check them also to make sure. Yes, So that 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.640 means next man up? You love here, we saw that, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.360 you love that. I gave him my theory about next 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.120 man up, and you've heard it. I said, the problem 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.320 with next man up is the next man up isn't 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.840 the man that's it. And so now you're getting diminishing returns. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.800 So Malague Turner would be, you know, the likely replacement, right, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.200 I mean, because Brown's already out there, Wilson, Gallup, Well, 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.800 it's Gallup, Brown and Wilson probably, But I think Turner. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.400 I think Turner gives them a little bit more than 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.480 Noah Brown, not like I really do. Well, don't be 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.480 down on Brown because he dropped the ball. Okay, no, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.680 everybody dropped the ball. Yeah, they've been dropping in these 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.760 losses for some reason. I think, yeah, the loss, I 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.400 think I think Brown. I think he gives us a 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:22.760 more physicality. Welcome back, sir, you know. And when we thought, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.720 when we think about not necessarily going back, because we 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.040 are going forward here, but if we get in the 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.480 same position as last week, why not put Polody anymore 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.280 this time? I thought that, you know, we really should 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:36.960 have used him a little bit more in the game, 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.560 not necessarily running back. I know, but he's just not 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.840 a true receiver. He's not going to run the routes 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.600 you need for like a seventeen yard out right, I know, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.600 but I would like to get him the ball quickly 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.319 in space. Well, I think maybe one of the things 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.040 they could incorporate is having he and Zeke on the 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.640 field at the same time. And that's what sprung that 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.920 big run. You go, yes, the fake the wild fake 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.240 leather and then and then and I think people, you know, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.000 when they're not running the ball, and it's like, well 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.880 they gotta have Pollard in there. Well, the other six 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.360 carries he had, he gained nineteen yards. That's three yards 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.640 of carry. So when when you got to be in 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.880 their bulldozing he's probably not the guy you want to 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.160 regardless of whether we can or not, you need to 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.320 have lineman in there. There they're making the blocks right 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.319 exactly because they keep talking about while you got to 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.960 run the ball, I said, And I was just talking 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.720 um with the guys before us, uh Danny McCray, And 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.080 I said, yeah, I said, but I'm gonna go back 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.800 and count how many times I wrote down after the 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.760 first down, run, second and eight because they just weren't 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.319 getting any get they weren't getting And you know, I 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.719 would agree with you on a lot of that, but 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:53.439 I've seen teams they just forced the issue. Yes, I do. Well, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.559 you just keep forcing the issue. Don't don't relent so much. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.640 And we were talking yesterday about two consecutive running players, Yeah, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.079 and we couldn't find one. Yeah. I started looking. I 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.679 had a hard time. I just found it. I was 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:11.280 just looking myself as you're talking, and there was I've 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.559 got Pollard. This is uh this drive that started at 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.280 four or five first quarter, so it was right before 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.520 the right at the end of the first quarter, I 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.959 had a Pollard plus one on a first and ten 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.760 play at the thirty eight or maybe plus two, uh, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.880 second down and he lost four yards on the next play. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.040 So those are back to back runs by Pollard and 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.360 see and it's not just but but we're talking one too. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.600 That's the third series of the game. And on the 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.080 on the first series, it was Zeke plus three pass 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.240 and then it was they got a couple of first 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.800 downs Pollard plus Pollard, then an incompletion. Okay, so it's 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:59.360 not consecutive runs. Next series, false start on Collins, Zeke 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:05.679 minus three pass pass. Yeah, well, after the first actually 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:10.520 after the first series, the second series, they got, um, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.600 zeke Sorry, I'm sorry, I messed up. So let me 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.960 just do it for you. Go Zeke minus one. And 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:25.120 now it's second eleven, next possession, first play, Zeke two. Um, 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:31.000 they got a first down. And then the next after 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.640 Zeke two they got a first down. Uh, got a 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.719 first down, and then first and ten was the wildcat 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:42.360 play to Pollard and that got thirty one yards. Uh, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.600 next play a little dump out to Zeke two yards. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.280 So they just kept getting behind them, not behind the change, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.240 but they weren't moving much past them. Second and long 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.640 is not a good down. And then and then the 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.760 first possession of the second quarter, UM, first and ten 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.199 at the twenty three they threw a quick out to 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.440 McEwan two yards first down and ten at the thirty 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:14.360 four too many men in the huddle. They got penalized 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.920 for that. The first minus five for the Cowboys this season, 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.880 um and then first and fifteen they ran it to 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.720 Pollard he got five. But they just can not moving 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.040 the football. And before you're going to me, it's also 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.560 the type of running place. I get it. You know 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.720 we can go wide because we can hold them off 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.760 because a linement is so good. But to me, there 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.400 are times when you need to create more inside blocking 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.760 schemes that can hit them quick, especially with a guy 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.160 like Pollard. And if you get Zeke in there quick enough, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.080 he's lowering the boom on somebody, the first person he's 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.880 gonna meet, and hopefully that's not a defensive lineman. So 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.160 there are ways that you can. Uh, It's like I'm 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.440 on the goal line. We have fourth and goal or 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.720 whatever sect third and goal. I hate bringing the ball 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.520 back to the running back and having him pick his spots. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.120 I would rather we just hit it hard, you understand, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.880 and make them feel us. To me, I think that's 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.480 even if you get one or two yards, it's gonna 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.760 it's gonna send to me a message. It's okay, a 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.640 second and eight. But right now, your defensive tackle still 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.080 has an imprint in his chest. See that's the kind 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.040 of stuff I'm talking about, leaving the impression and from 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:35.800 an offensive line standpoint, okay, when obviously they had difficulty 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.280 pass protecting all day long, but just the mindset, no, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.560 they didn't because Dak was supposed to carry the team. Yeah, 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.760 if I see that one more. But it's the mindset 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:54.040 of being of a road grading okay, and when you're 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.840 established the run, and it also playoff football, right. And 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:03.400 it also it keeps that defense from pinning their ears 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.280 back and coming after the quarterback when they know that 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.280 you're going to meet me. That's right. Oh I'm not 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.280 going to be pulling. But so this was and there. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.000 We've had plenty of games in the past, especially last year, 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.040 where they fell behind three touchdowns saying okay, now you 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.640 got to pass well this entire game. You could pound 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.400 it if you if you wanted to. Now, whether you 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.680 be successful or not, I don't know. I think I 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.480 think they were fearful of Casey taken off, right, you know, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.600 that's that they needed to score a lot of points 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.520 and they didn't trust the defense. That's an all great point. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.120 All they needed to score was twenty, right as it 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.920 turned out. But when you go into a game thinking 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.000 that we've got to score thirty, then you have a 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.880 different game plan than And I still think, why do 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.720 we not make that adjustment? I mean at halftime, what 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.520 does it score at halftime? Sixteen to three? We're still 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.880 in it, am I? Right? Right? We're still in it. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.840 So at halftime you make that adjustment. And didn't we 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.000 get the ball fast in the in the third water? No, 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.120 and we still stopped him, stopped him, We still stopped him. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.479 Got that's who was the interceptions takes to Travis Kelsea 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.919 drop interception that see that was gonna be a it 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:17.440 was gonna be a twenty three day. But no, no, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.919 on that drive, on that drive they were gonna score. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.360 But it was thirty and six at the thirty seven, right, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.840 So they get the interception. And then here's the problem. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.919 We find out that we got CD lamps out, okay, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.000 and all they got to go is thirty six yards 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.480 for a touchdown and they went twenty four and kicked 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.359 the field. Did we not know CD was gonna be 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.520 out after we saw him cup walking off the said 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.840 he was fine. He said it was fine. Why they 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.680 keep listening to these kids, Yeah, they're all gonna say 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.520 that fine. I was like, with you, cowboys got the ball. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.320 I'm good. They say that justly cowboys got the ball 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.679 And people were scratching their head. How comes CD's not 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.520 out there? I was like, well, did you not see 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:04.800 what happened at the end of the first half. Come 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.600 come with me right right. I was like when I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.679 saw that picture, I said, see, he's not playing the 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.280 rest of the day. And this is a guy I 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.880 remember him in college. He got lit up by a 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.639 Baylor guy on a punt return one time and he 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.400 had to be he had to be in concussion protocol 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.440 after that, and he was out. Like that's a difference 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.960 in college in the NFL. With that he missed, he 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:32.120 missed like one play. Yeah, yeah, he sees two of them. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.480 Let me take you way of the four. Let me 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.320 take good, good, Let we need to win this guy. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.600 Let me take you way back to high school right 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.439 our sophomore year and a good friend of mine. You 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.400 guys remember Quinn Buckner, right, Yeah, so he was a freshman. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.840 We were playing his high school. Was the only game 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.760 we lost. We beat him the first time and we lost, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.639 and we won the conference titled by the Way Sophomores. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.400 And uh, he fields a punt and he comes right 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.879 up the middle and it's him and my buddy, who 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.919 is no bigger than higham, maybe a little taller. But 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.640 he didn't weigh anymore. He didn't even try to run 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.919 around him. He just ran light over him, spat. He 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.640 ended up with a concussion. So this is Saturday, right 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.480 we we uh, we leave and the coach told me, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.879 he goes, hey, Monday, why don't you make sure you 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.440 walk dave the classes. Make sure he gets there. That's 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.000 what they were worried about with the concussion. Right now, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.200 that's the protocol, right there, Get a teammate, get somebody 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.080 to walk into the class, walk to the class, make 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.240 sure he gets into practice. Make sure he gets to practice. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.119 That's all that matters. So did Thornbridge win state? Uh? 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.320 Not football? We didn't have football playoffs. We did not 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:52.119 have football playoffs? Oh what what? Because the state was 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.080 so big, we didn't have football playoff? We wait, we 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.359 ha got a cute little state. What do you mean wait, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.240 would you Bill? Wait, you got a cute little state. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.000 It's not like you got the Texas. You're Illinois. We 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.200 had act like that's such a big state. Okay. In basketball, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:14.399 every team was eligible for the tournament. But did you 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.879 have it? What do you mean did you have the tournament? Oh? Absolutely? 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.000 Did you have football? They didn't have football? How could 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.359 you not have football? Did not have football playoffs? Do 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:31.200 they now in Illinois? No? Wonder. Yeah, so they decided 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.879 at some point that okay, we can go ahead, and 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:38.360 but in basketball, and we didn't have by tho, hey, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.920 we didn't have all this BS six, A five, A four, 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:47.879 a three. You didn't basketball. Everybody was in the same tournament. Wow, 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.280 got it? And how did thorn Ridge do in that? 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.760 By the way, thorn Ridge went to high school. When 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.960 he was a junior and senior, they won back to 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.119 back state titles. How do you do We always got 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.959 out of the regional and got beat in the sectional. Okay, 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.760 we were a basketball powerhouse, yeah, obviously not a football powerhouse. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.560 This is crazy. I don't understand that the whole state 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.840 now the football that's like, that's like Texas didn't have 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.879 you couldn't play when we were in high school, and 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:22.280 even going into the nineties, really you couldn't, at least 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.359 through nineteen eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, you could 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.159 not participate in anything outside of school for you couldn't 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.840 go to summer camps. You couldn't do anything. And so 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.480 for the longest time, like in basketball, Texas never produced 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.719 anything in basketball because you were just playing for your 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.880 school team. You couldn't do anything else, and he didn't 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.040 have camps. Now, in the last thirty years, how many 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:46.159 great players have as Texas produced. They they've been holding 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.879 back the NBA and the NCAA because they didn't have 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.760 good football. They didn't have good basketball camps. We didn't 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.400 have texts, you couldn't play selectball were We didn't change 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.679 the game bill that changed the game. We didn't have 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.400 junior high football either. When I was in stop talking, man, 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.480 no one cared about football. It was a basketball stage. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.280 Is not the greatest moment of the greatest moment of 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.960 my athletic career was irving y m C A eight 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.439 and under championship. We wont There was no great school 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:25.280 football tackle football. Don't don't take that away from him. 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.679 And did the next year, I was the quarterback of 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:32.360 the army, you know, make points. We scored zero zero. Lord, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.320 that's when we realized I was in fourth grade. That's 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.480 where we realized I needed glasses and you couldn't throw it. 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:44.679 I suppose you had equipment too, didn't you. Of course 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:51.800 we did. We played tackle football without man. We played 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.160 it too on Sunday afternoons and time on the week. 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.880 I plighted on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We played it every 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.240 day in our front yard. We played tackle foot ball. 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:06.359 We played in a real field. Okay, mix shots continues 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.040 in a moment. 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