WEBVTT - Historical Records: Judy Heumann (feat. Ali Stroker and Jenna Bainbridge)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Questlove, and we're continuing to celebrate Women's

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<v Speaker 1>History Month by releasing episodes of my new podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>Story Pirates. Historical Records is an explosive fusion of hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop and history, tailor made for music loving kids and families.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, Nimine learns the inspiring story of Judy Human,

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<v Speaker 1>who fought for the rights of disabled people, and a

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<v Speaker 1>list Broadway actor Jenna Brainbridge for fierce hip hop track

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<v Speaker 1>to honor Judy's legacy. We hope you enjoy Historical Records,

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<v Speaker 1>the show that proves that in order to make history,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make some noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, listeners, it's Niminy. Welcome back to Historical Records. We're

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<v Speaker 2>doing things a little different on the show today because

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<v Speaker 2>I am at the gardening store and whoops, I dropped

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<v Speaker 2>my trowel. Anyway, as I was saying, I'm throwing a

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<v Speaker 2>garden party tonight's and I need a few last minute supplies.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, these seeds, these pruning snips ooh, and this

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<v Speaker 2>huge clay pot. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear clean up on Aisle five, herb please report to

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<v Speaker 3>the vegetable section.

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<v Speaker 2>My bad. I'll just grab another large clay.

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<v Speaker 3>Pot herb clean up on Aisle five.

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<v Speaker 2>Stat whoops, I'll just grab another one, Herb.

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<v Speaker 3>Come red. Someone is breaking all the pots in Aisle five.

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<v Speaker 4>What.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even roots for one? What is happening?

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<v Speaker 5>Herb?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 6>This is officially a clean up emergency?

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<v Speaker 7>Ole fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Where am I? Okay, calm down, Niminy. You're back at

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker in your bed. There's no herb, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>Aisle five. It was all a dream man. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little how you say, stressed about this garden party.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw later, but you know it's great for

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<v Speaker 2>stress gardening listeners, Let's go check on those plans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's historical Records.

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<v Speaker 8>You are now listening to Historical We're.

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<v Speaker 2>To make history. You got to have struggles to make history.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to show toois cannot be quiet loud as

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<v Speaker 2>a riot to make history. You gotta make some noise. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>lovely listeners, Welcome back to Historical Records, the show where

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<v Speaker 2>I dig into historical records in order to produce historically

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<v Speaker 2>themed records. And by records, I mean songs, which is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a bit of a history lesson in itself. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know songs and albums used to be called records.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. And if you have an adult in your

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<v Speaker 2>life who still listens to records, be warned that if

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<v Speaker 2>you ask their opinion about music, they're gonna talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Now follow me, listeners. We're headed to a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker you've never been to. Oh hot, Tina, where

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<v Speaker 2>my headed? I'm on my way to the greenhouse to

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<v Speaker 2>check on my plants for the garden party later. Where

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<v Speaker 2>are you going? Oh, that's right. You're nocturnal, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bed. And that's also probably why you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a dressing gown and a bonnet. And here I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were making a bold fashioned choice. Sleep tight, Tina.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you don't have any stress dreams about herb

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind, I'll see you later anyway, listeners. Today's episode

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<v Speaker 2>of Historical Records is all about Shooty Human, who is

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<v Speaker 2>known as the mother of the disability rights movement. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we learn more about her, I need to check

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<v Speaker 2>up on my plants. I started a bunch of seeds

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago, and today's the first day I've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to check up on them. Oh no, all

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<v Speaker 2>the plants are dead or dying. What have I done

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<v Speaker 2>hate him?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm here for the garden party?

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<v Speaker 2>Me, what are you doing here? The party is not

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<v Speaker 2>for another twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, well, the invite didn't say whether it was five

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<v Speaker 5>am or five pm. I thought it was a little

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<v Speaker 5>weird that a party would start at five am, But

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<v Speaker 5>you're a little weird Nimini, like in a good way,

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<v Speaker 5>so I just went with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't argue with you on that, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if there's gonna be a party at all. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>just look at this garden.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not all bad. The leaves on this shrub here

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<v Speaker 5>are really beautiful, bright yellow.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be green.

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<v Speaker 5>Ooh, yikes, What were the conditions like in here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know me? I love my gadgets, so I set

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<v Speaker 2>my UV light timers to sixteen hours a day, programmed

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<v Speaker 2>plant food to scatter every other day, and set the

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<v Speaker 2>sprinklers to go off every five minutes at random intervals

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<v Speaker 2>to mimic rain and nature. Oh and of course I

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<v Speaker 2>programmed gentle thunderstorm noises to play whenever that happens. Oops,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going off now. Hope you brought your umbrella.

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<v Speaker 5>Who would go to a garden party without an umbrella, Nimoni.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why you programmed this room the way you did,

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<v Speaker 5>but it looks like you have a lot of different

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<v Speaker 5>plants in here. Individual plants need specific conditions to thrive.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't expect a bonzie tree and a cactus to

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<v Speaker 5>grow strong in the same kind of environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I guess not. I was just excited to have

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<v Speaker 2>a garden party. I'm a tiny sandwich is.

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<v Speaker 5>In everything, totally understandable, and actually it makes me think

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<v Speaker 5>about this week's episode about Judy Human Really why i'll

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<v Speaker 5>show you here?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Lee, I think the party's off. You can put

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<v Speaker 2>away that bird shaped whistle you brought as a party favor.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, this bird whistle is this week's history simulator.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, I love a theme. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Just as a heads up, this whistle attracts actual birds,

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<v Speaker 5>so you might see some after I blow on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 5>I love birds me too, But jes a reminder, there

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<v Speaker 5>are over eleven thousand species of birds, and I can't

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<v Speaker 5>control which ones show up.

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<v Speaker 2>In that case, maybe we should pause because I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't like sign Then fly I don't know, Well, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>let's fly. Whoa where did we travel to? Lee? I

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<v Speaker 2>assume somewhere near an ocean.

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<v Speaker 5>No, we're on the south lawn of the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>What then, why the seagulls. The birds have.

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<v Speaker 5>Their own reasoning, Nimini, best not to question it. But

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<v Speaker 5>you should look over there at.

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<v Speaker 2>That platform where a bunch of people are standing in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a crowd. Wait a minute, is that President

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<v Speaker 2>George HW. Bush?

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<v Speaker 5>Yup and see that woman over there wearing glasses in

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<v Speaker 5>the wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Judy Human. Does Judy Human work at the White House?

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<v Speaker 5>Not yet. Eventually she does end up working with President

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<v Speaker 5>Clinton's administration, but that's still a few years away. Today,

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<v Speaker 5>she's here because President Bush is signing the nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 5>Americans with Disabilities Act, also known as the ADA.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did the ADA do?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a civil rights law that says it's illegal to

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<v Speaker 5>discriminate against people who have disabilities. The world looked very

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<v Speaker 5>different before the ADA in what way?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>Take Judy for example, when she was a kid, she

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<v Speaker 5>had a disease called polio that forced her to use

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<v Speaker 5>a wheelchair to get around. But many buildings were built

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<v Speaker 5>in a way that made it impossible for wheelchairs to

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<v Speaker 5>get inside and move around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not fair.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't. But when the ADA became the law of

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<v Speaker 5>the land. See that wheelchair ramp over there leading up

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<v Speaker 5>to the stage where Bush is speaking. That is one

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<v Speaker 5>small way the ADA helped to make spaces accessible for everyone. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>and look do you see how there's an ASL interpreter

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<v Speaker 5>translating everything that's being said into sign language.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love watching interpretters, especially at concerts.

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<v Speaker 5>That's part of the eightya two. Judy was part of

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<v Speaker 5>a movement that wanted to change the world, to give

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<v Speaker 5>everyone more access and the right kind of environment to

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they belong.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like everyone here is happy about the ADA getting passed.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it just me or does Judy seem a

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<v Speaker 2>little unsatisfied?

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<v Speaker 5>Spot on Nimoni. Judy showed up to support this act

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<v Speaker 5>being signed because it was a step in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 5>but she had openly spoken out saying she didn't think

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<v Speaker 5>the ADA went nearly far enough.

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<v Speaker 2>She said that to the president.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she said it to the media, so President Bush

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<v Speaker 5>knew she was less than thrilled about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I really admire her honesty. Me too.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be really intimidating to speak up for yourself. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>let me take you further back to another time when

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<v Speaker 5>Judy spoke up. Just prepare yourself because you know the

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<v Speaker 5>bird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do this, Lee, give us a whistle. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>thank goodness, it's a flock of meadow larks.

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<v Speaker 5>Gorgeous here we are. What a beautiful way to travel.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey lady, are you gonna stand in the middle of

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<v Speaker 6>this sidewalk all day?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking here.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's a break, we're lurking here.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, All right, everyone's a character in New York City, Lee,

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<v Speaker 6>Look over, there is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid, an old timy Newsy in a cap selling papers.

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<v Speaker 8>It sure is extra extra read all about it. Woman

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<v Speaker 8>in wheelchairs us to become teacher?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa he must be talking about Judy Human.

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<v Speaker 8>Extra extra read all about it. Judy Human wins case

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<v Speaker 8>against school board again teacher's license.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, newsies were a fixture of life in the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundreds. How far back do we go?

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<v Speaker 5>Lee, the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the newsies as darkly accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>You Let me worry about that nmony. Listen to what

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<v Speaker 5>the newsies are saying about Judy.

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<v Speaker 2>Extra extra read all about it. In a twist of.

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<v Speaker 5>Fate, Judy Human wins discrimination lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Against the school board that bought it from attending school

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<v Speaker 3>as a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wild, what are they talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>When she was entering elementary school in nineteen fifty two,

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<v Speaker 5>a school board in Judy's neighborhood didn't let her attend

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<v Speaker 5>school because they said her wheelchair was a fire hazard.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems outrageous even for the nineteen fifties, But what

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<v Speaker 2>does that have to do with these headlines about her

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<v Speaker 2>getting a teacher's license.

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<v Speaker 5>Years later, after Judy had earned her teaching license, that

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<v Speaker 5>same school board sai she couldn't be a teacher in

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<v Speaker 5>their school because she failed the medical exam because she

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't walk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really unfair. She was obviously able to be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just going to need to get around the

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<v Speaker 2>school in her own way. In schools today, there are

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<v Speaker 2>not only ramps in elevators so that everyone is able

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<v Speaker 2>to get around. There's even braille on all the signs

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<v Speaker 2>on the walls to help those that are vision and paired.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, and all that progress is the result of Judy

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<v Speaker 5>and her colleagues demanding that buildings be more accessible. Because

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<v Speaker 5>the world is largely designed with able people in mind,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to use your imagination in a new way

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<v Speaker 5>to rethink places and make them for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>If only the school board could have realized that back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty two.

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<v Speaker 8>Extra Extra Exclusive Interview with Judy Human, page four.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh we should read that. Excuse me, Hi, I'd like

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<v Speaker 5>to buy a paper.

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<v Speaker 8>Please show a thing that'll be three fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>Three fifty That is expensive for the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, here you go, neosy.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks Extra extra podcast assurer and swindled by anachronistic noozy.

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<v Speaker 8>Read all about it, you little rascal.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Lee, why would we just read about it when

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<v Speaker 2>we could go see Judy get interviewed.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, maybe I could return this paper to that

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<v Speaker 5>sales final, Oh New York, let's get to that interview.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a burn.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, it's called a jacksnipe.

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<v Speaker 2>I might need to sample it for a beat. That

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<v Speaker 2>is awesome. Now that's the only way to time travel.

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<v Speaker 5>Judy Humans about to give her statement. Sorry, okay, so niminy.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we are at the Overseas Press Club at Judy's

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<v Speaker 5>news conference, and there she is.

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<v Speaker 8>Judy, how do you feel now that you've won the case?

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<v Speaker 9>I feel qualified to teach now and I don't want

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<v Speaker 9>to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Judy was an amazing teacher.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't end up teaching that much after the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>What that makes me sad to hear?

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually pretty inspiring. Judy realized that her work needed

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<v Speaker 5>to be outside of the classroom after this whole experience.

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<v Speaker 2>What did she end up doing?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll show you.

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<v Speaker 2>Her case. What am I supposed to.

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<v Speaker 8>Go with this?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know that Benjamin Franklin wanted the National burn

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<v Speaker 5>to be the anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows that late? Where are we?

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<v Speaker 5>Sh try to keep your voice down. It's pretty late

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<v Speaker 5>at night or early in the morning, depending on how

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<v Speaker 5>you look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in some kind of office building full of people

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<v Speaker 2>having a sleepover.

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<v Speaker 5>It's less of a sleep over and more of a

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<v Speaker 5>sit in.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm hm, that makes sense. People are definitely sitting, mostly

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<v Speaker 2>at empty desks. And look, there's a few people over

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<v Speaker 2>there on the floor in sleeping bags playing a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And based on the various haircuts, I'm guessing we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies again.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, we're in nineteen seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought sit ins were like protests, like the ones

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<v Speaker 2>from the civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, All of these folks are part of DA

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<v Speaker 5>Disability in Action, an organization that Judy helped create that

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<v Speaker 5>brings people together to fight for the inclusion of disabled people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they all protesting about another teacher license getting denied?

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<v Speaker 5>No, this is a much bigger moment. This is what

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<v Speaker 5>many sit ins staged across the country by DIA and

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<v Speaker 5>other groups demanding that the government take action on section

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<v Speaker 5>five oh four of the Rehabilitation Act of nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen seventy three. But didn't you just say it's nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, So in nineteen seventy three, after other protests led

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<v Speaker 5>by Judy in her community, President Nixon finally signed papers

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<v Speaker 5>that basically said no disabled person should be excluded from

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<v Speaker 5>any program, service, or similar which receives federal funds. That's great,

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<v Speaker 5>it is great. But before section five oh four could

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<v Speaker 5>be put into law, the US Department of Health, Education,

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<v Speaker 5>and Welfare had to come up with this sort of

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<v Speaker 5>checklist to help determine who is disabled.

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<v Speaker 2>So all these activists had already helped bring about a

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<v Speaker 2>new law, but one department delayed those laws being put

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<v Speaker 2>into action for four years. Pretty much No wonder Judy

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<v Speaker 2>got so feisty.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, everybody, I don't want to wake you have if

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<v Speaker 3>you're resting, but you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not exactly sure what's happening now.

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<v Speaker 2>They're taking down that big sign that says twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>and replacing it with another sign that says twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Fellow protesters, if you can, we'd love for you to

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<v Speaker 3>stay just one more night.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh. I see all these people have been here protesting

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<v Speaker 5>for twenty two days and twenty two nights.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and some of the people here needed specific medical

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<v Speaker 5>supplies to get through even a regular day, so other

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<v Speaker 5>people from the community brought them stuff to help them

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<v Speaker 5>keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>How did they know what to bring them? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nineteen seventy seven. There are no cell phones, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they'd just let the protesters use the

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<v Speaker 2>phones in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh they didn't. In fact, the FBI cut the phone

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<v Speaker 5>lines in here to try and get the protesters to leave,

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<v Speaker 5>but they found a way. Look over there, that woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Is using sign language to communicate with somebody on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of that window.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that amazing? The FBI couldn't stop asl.

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<v Speaker 2>Still it sounds like hard work. How much longer does

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<v Speaker 2>the protest go?

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<v Speaker 5>They'll be here for a few more days, twenty four altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is a protest and everyone here is

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<v Speaker 2>rightfully angry and felt called to action. But it also

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<v Speaker 2>feels good in here. Is that weird to say?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so? And actually that makes me think

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<v Speaker 5>of one other thing I want to show you. I

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<v Speaker 5>really hope I don't wake anybody up with this history simulator.

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<v Speaker 5>But here we go. Owls. What a perfect bird to

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<v Speaker 5>take us to our next stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, Lee, those owls were on thepe I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>a bonfire with people gathered around it. I hear frogs

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<v Speaker 2>and crickets. There are mosquitoes.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I do not do well with mosquitos.

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<v Speaker 2>We better be quick. What's the scoop on this gathering.

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<v Speaker 5>We're at a place called Camp jen Ed. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>summer camp Judy went to and she was a teenager. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>she's right over there, sitting near the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Sorry, it's hard to tell from this far back,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's more than one person in a wheelchair over there.

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<v Speaker 5>She's the one who just made everyone laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to bring you here because Judy talks about

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<v Speaker 5>Camp Jened a lot. It was a camp for young

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<v Speaker 5>people with disabilities. It's here that Judy said she realized

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot of the limited way people view folks

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<v Speaker 5>with disabilities comes from fear. It sparked something in.

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<v Speaker 2>Her to want to change that. Maybe this is where

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<v Speaker 2>her flame for Scott it spark hard to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>it gave Judy and many other campers an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>how great things could be if everyone is given a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to thrive.

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<v Speaker 5>Other campers from Jened went on to be disability rights

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<v Speaker 5>activists too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're really getting into that song. Oh, which reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me we better get back to the studio to we

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<v Speaker 2>eat some music of our own. Also, it sort of

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<v Speaker 2>looks like you're getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. Yikes, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here. Whoa child swans?

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<v Speaker 5>We're heading back to the studio. So he's sort of

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<v Speaker 5>our swan song.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we are back at the studio.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm covered in bug bites. Why did I create a

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<v Speaker 5>history simulator that didn't protect us from mosquitoes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? All that, and you didn't even get us'more?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh No, one came back with us a.

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<v Speaker 2>BII. Okay, listeners, let's hear this song about the one

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<v Speaker 2>and only Judy Human, featuring the amazing vocalist Jenna by Bridge.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking for feisty disabled.

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<v Speaker 10>People at eighteen months, that's just one and a half.

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<v Speaker 7>I contracted polio sort of cut me and I consume,

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<v Speaker 7>move my arms.

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<v Speaker 2>And my neck and my face.

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<v Speaker 7>But I was paralyzed from below the wigs.

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<v Speaker 2>But just know that the song ain't a sod story.

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<v Speaker 7>Ain't the go crying home to your mom's story.

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<v Speaker 9>This about finding force when you're afraid, getting lemons.

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<v Speaker 5>Turning them to lemonade.

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<v Speaker 7>Jump forward to the first day of my new school.

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<v Speaker 9>Want to learn in the worst way, but in a

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<v Speaker 9>curse day.

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<v Speaker 5>They took one look at the.

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<v Speaker 10>Wheelchair teachers tell me I cannot be there.

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<v Speaker 9>You know they called me a fire hazard.

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<v Speaker 5>We will show them a fire.

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<v Speaker 7>Hazard to go to class.

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<v Speaker 9>Had to give them some sass claim my dignity, change

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<v Speaker 9>the policy.

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<v Speaker 8>So we had to be f see.

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<v Speaker 5>Be the brawler you want to be.

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<v Speaker 7>I see make the shift that you want to see.

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<v Speaker 7>I see no time for the niceties. Feisty, be feisty

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<v Speaker 7>second first second, lesson second time to fright.

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<v Speaker 9>I want to be a teacher, help the youth outright.

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<v Speaker 9>Got my grades, good pass my tests, got my shock.

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<v Speaker 9>They say I can't teach because I can't Watchcuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, this rule was blatantly I'm fair and wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>teaching school.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not running a marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Education of.

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<v Speaker 9>New York was not the paragon of equity I needed.

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<v Speaker 5>So I sued them, put the pressure on.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, they settled out of court. First ever teacher

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<v Speaker 9>in a wheelchair in New York. Plus, I got a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of press from a stress and so got so

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<v Speaker 9>many letters piles all up on the tests, those from

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<v Speaker 9>scared adults and from nervous kids being denied their basic services.

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<v Speaker 2>I now know what my purpose is.

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<v Speaker 9>Activists who makes disturbances. If there's dreading and it is

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<v Speaker 9>uncurbing and unscurving fervently and urgently.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm hidding sight saying being a brawl or you want

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<v Speaker 7>to be, I say, make the shift that you want

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<v Speaker 7>to see. See no time for the niceties.

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<v Speaker 5>Feisty, be seisty.

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<v Speaker 9>As you can SeeMe of facts of led to many positives,

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<v Speaker 9>but disabled people still in their policy parrogatives, prison by pity,

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<v Speaker 9>paternalism and persecution perpetrated by politicians, immuneful prosecution.

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<v Speaker 5>Ooh, we need a little traction. How about I'm selling

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<v Speaker 5>ash Now.

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<v Speaker 9>We on a mission to improve the positions of people

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<v Speaker 9>who won't be hidden, will be told that we don't

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<v Speaker 9>fit in. So we went to a building and started

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<v Speaker 9>what's called the city. And that's where you show up

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<v Speaker 9>on bidding and basically get to sit. You stay twenty

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<v Speaker 9>six days without a stock, wouldn't move even when they brought.

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<v Speaker 5>The army and the cops.

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<v Speaker 9>It was worth it when we finally got our props,

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<v Speaker 9>when we got the regulations that we wanted from our

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<v Speaker 9>arms and we learn the space of fact. People don't

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<v Speaker 9>clean up their axe just for kicks. Need a nudge

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<v Speaker 9>and a push and a flick.

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<v Speaker 2>They need by.

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<v Speaker 7>Sae be the brawl or you want to be I say,

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<v Speaker 7>make the shift that you want to see sisty, no

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<v Speaker 7>time for the niceties.

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<v Speaker 5>Feisty, be feisty.

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<v Speaker 7>Feisty, be the brawl or you want to be feisty,

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<v Speaker 7>Make the shift that you want no time for the niceties.

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<v Speaker 2>Feisty, be feisty. We'll be right back after a few

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<v Speaker 2>words for the grown ups. Listeners, thanks for joining in

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<v Speaker 2>today and for learning more about the mother of the

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<v Speaker 2>disability rights movement, Judy Human. In fact, she inspired me

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<v Speaker 2>so much I've changed my plan for the garden party.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Nedy Haley, Hey, Hi Man, Hey Tina Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>I showed up today around five thirty am for your

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<v Speaker 3>party because I'm always fashionably late, but I think I

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<v Speaker 3>actually ended up being fashionably early.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, it was up, Mum, up Pazon, you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was kind of weird to have a

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<v Speaker 3>party so early in the morning, but then again, you're

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<v Speaker 3>pretty weird too, fuddy in.

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<v Speaker 2>A good way. Thanks Phil, You're kind of weird too,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I just want to say, to this pile of

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<v Speaker 3>dirt and empty planter boxes we're all standing around off

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<v Speaker 3>fantastic love that pre playing esthetic.

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<v Speaker 8>Wah.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually had a question about that, Niminy. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>you were inviting us to a garden party, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>no garden in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we could change this from a garden party

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<v Speaker 2>to a gardening party. I have all these different types

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<v Speaker 2>of seeds here, and they each need different conditions to

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<v Speaker 2>help them grow. So will you help me create a

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<v Speaker 2>better environment for each of these different types of plants.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, what are all these birds doing here? I'll explain later.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's what is very good with a wheelbarrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get gardening. Thanks everyone. While we all work on

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<v Speaker 2>the garden, I am gonna briefly sneak away for an interview. Hi, Alie,

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<v Speaker 2>can you introduce yourself for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 11>My name is Ali Stroker and I am an actress

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<v Speaker 11>and a singer and a dancer. I have had the

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<v Speaker 11>privilege of performing on Broadway and winning a Tony Award

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<v Speaker 11>for my performance in Oklahoma, where I played ado Annie.

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<v Speaker 11>And I also am an activist and an advocate for

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<v Speaker 11>people with disabilities. I was injured in a car accident

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<v Speaker 11>when I was two and use a wheelchair for mobility.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a two year old son named Jesse, who

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<v Speaker 11>is hilarious and such a joy. And I'm married to

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<v Speaker 11>the love of my life named David, and we live

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<v Speaker 11>in Westchester.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Now, Elizabeth, can you tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I'm Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fourteen and I'm in theater at my school. I

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<v Speaker 4>do chorus, and I like to play slued hockey, baseball, swimming.

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<v Speaker 2>So Elizabeth, I know you have some questions prepared? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to jump in with your first one?

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<v Speaker 4>What was the one thing that was most challenging for

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<v Speaker 4>you with your disability to start your acting career.

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<v Speaker 11>I began singing and doing theater when I was seven

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<v Speaker 11>years old. And before I began doing theater, I was

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<v Speaker 11>really shy and I felt really different being a little

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<v Speaker 11>kid with a disability.

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<v Speaker 5>It felt really hard.

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<v Speaker 11>It felt like when I would enter rooms, I was

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<v Speaker 11>being stung by base It was just so uncomfortable. And

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<v Speaker 11>then when I got on stage, everyone was staring at me,

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<v Speaker 11>but it was for a different reason. Now it wasn't

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<v Speaker 11>because of my wheelchair. It was because I was the

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<v Speaker 11>star of the show and I was totally hooked.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I can relate to that a lot, because like when

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<v Speaker 4>I was in sixth grade, it was really hard and

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<v Speaker 4>I went to theater and I was on the stage

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<v Speaker 4>and it kind of felt like it was where I

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to be. I saw myself as a normal kid,

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<v Speaker 4>not with the disability.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 11>Wait, can I ask you a few questions?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, Okay, what is your dream role in a show?

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<v Speaker 4>I really want to try out for Dorothy and Wizard

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<v Speaker 4>of All Yes, But like I'm shy, and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>very scary.

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<v Speaker 2>For me totally.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know what your audition will be like, but

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<v Speaker 11>I always say to people like, if you have any

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<v Speaker 11>questions about what I can do and sort of you

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<v Speaker 11>know how I moved in my physical vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to talk to you guys about it.

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<v Speaker 11>Because the truth is, like, when you're collaborating on a show,

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<v Speaker 11>you probably have as many ideas as they do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>and maybe even more that they wouldn't even think of

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<v Speaker 11>because you live with your disability and you know what

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<v Speaker 11>is really kind of unique and cool about it, and

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<v Speaker 11>there's ways to be creative and incorporate it into the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>you know this concept of clicking your heels three times?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wear a lot of rings.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I don't know if you use a wheelchair or not,

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<v Speaker 11>but like I like to click my rings against my wheels.

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<v Speaker 5>All of a.

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<v Speaker 11>Sudden, It's like, who says clicking your heels three times

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<v Speaker 11>has to look the same as it's always look like

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<v Speaker 11>I can click my wheels instead of heels three times.

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<v Speaker 11>There's so many cool opportunities to come up with creative options.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Elizabeth, is there anything you want to ask Ali?

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<v Speaker 2>About Judy Human.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was kind of cool that like she

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<v Speaker 4>thought for like our rights because of our disability.

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<v Speaker 11>Judy's whole thing was she was sick of hearing no.

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<v Speaker 11>She believed that we as a community of people with

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<v Speaker 11>disabilities deserved to have access and rights. By the way, Elizabeth, like,

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<v Speaker 11>I believe that the future is accessible. And that's the

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<v Speaker 11>life that I'm leading and the work that I do

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<v Speaker 11>in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>To make it so.

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<v Speaker 11>I always say when someone is not able to see that,

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<v Speaker 11>that's not a person for me, and that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I surround.

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<v Speaker 11>Myself with people who are passionate about my ability and

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<v Speaker 11>access to the world, and you will have the same Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 11>You're so bright, you're so smart, Like, continue to surround

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<v Speaker 11>yourself with people who believe in accessibility and change.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, this was an amazing conversation. Thank you both so

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<v Speaker 2>much for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you inspire me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm inspired by you.

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<v Speaker 11>Great to meet you and have a wonderful day, But by.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, listeners, Thanks for joining in today and for going

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<v Speaker 2>on a journey with me to learn about the disability

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<v Speaker 2>rights activist Judy Human. And a huge thanks to today's

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<v Speaker 2>guests Jenna Bainbridge, Ali Stroker and Elizabeth. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>next week with another episode, another song, and another hero.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, someone's gotta make more historical records. Until then,

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<v Speaker 2>remember to make history, you gotta make some noise. Oops.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgot to turn the random sprinkler timer off. Gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>signing off. This is Niminy reminding you to stay my seat. Bye.

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<v Speaker 6>Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirates Studios,

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<v Speaker 6>Questloves two on five Entertainment, John Blickman and iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 6>Executive producer by Amir Questlove Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree

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<v Speaker 6>and Benjamin Salka. Executive produced for iHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown.

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<v Speaker 6>Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear,

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<v Speaker 6>Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and niminy Ware.

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<v Speaker 6>Producers for two one five are Sean g Brittany, Benjamin

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<v Speaker 6>and Zarah Zolman. Hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer

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<v Speaker 6>is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polis.

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<v Speaker 6>Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring

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<v Speaker 6>and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.

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<v Speaker 6>Sound designed and mixing by Sam.

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<v Speaker 8>Bear at the Relic Room in New York City.

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<v Speaker 6>Additional recording by Brett Tuban, song mastering by Josh Han.

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<v Speaker 6>Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced

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<v Speaker 6>by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Riccio, Production management

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<v Speaker 6>by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pirate Studios

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<v Speaker 6>is Glennis Brault. Pr for Story Pirate Studios is provided

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<v Speaker 6>by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode

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<v Speaker 6>was written by Megan O'Neill. The song Judy Human was

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<v Speaker 6>written by Dan Foster and produced by Eric Gerson. Special

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<v Speaker 6>guests Ali Stroker, Jenna Bainbridge, and Kid interviewer Elizabeth. This

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<v Speaker 6>episode features performances by Peter McNerney, Megan O'Neill, Lee Overtree, Lee, Polis,

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<v Speaker 6>Austin Sanders, Jamie Watson, and Nimini Ware