1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: What is going on? 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Roughfresh. This is Jake Hoefer and we're 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: wrapping up the rough Fresh season as we close out 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty five. Hope you guys have enjoyed 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: this year and Roughfresh maybe helped you along the way, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: whether it was hearing what was going on or what 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on for the upcoming week. This 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: episode is no different. We have folks from Ohio, Indiana, 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and Oklahoma telling us what they've been seeing and a 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: couple big buck stories that I hope you guys enjoy. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: As you know, Roughfresh is brought to you by land 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: dot Com, the leading online real estate marketplace to find 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: your perfect rural, recreational agricultural hunting properties here in the US. 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and kick things off with Kyle 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: in Ohio. Here we go, all right, First up on 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: the line, we have Kyle, who just shot a big 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: buck in Ohio. Late season down to the end of 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: twenty five. We're getting very very close. How does it feel. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Oh man, it feels great. Honestly, I hunted this deer. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: I you know, I hear people say grind all the time, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: and I kind of hate that because, like it's not 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 3: a job, Like I hate going to my job and grind, 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like this is fun. Like 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: I get the like it's just a metaphor or whatever. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: But I mean I didn't really grind. Honestly, I only 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: hunted him like four times. I just I had to 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: pick and choose when I could. 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Go in there. 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so when so you hundred four times, what 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: were the reasons, you know, the three previous times, like 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: kind of broadstroke, what was the reason You're like, Okay, 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go take a swing? And it was like 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: one in October or November December. I kind of what 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: that looked like. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: So it was two in October, and it was just 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: a year. It was prior history with the deer last 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: year on days that he uh daylighted and I was wrong. 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: I had so I had to get a sitter and 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: I had to either pick he daylighted on the eighteenth, 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: So I either had to pick the seventeenth or the 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: nineteenth to hunt or the eighteenth, and I picked the eighteenth, 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: and he was there on the seventeenth, and then I 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: was like, okay, he showed up again prior on Halloween, 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: so I was like, okay, I got a hunt. The 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: thirtieth was a Sunday. I think somewhere around there was 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: a Sunday. I was like, I'm gonna throw in that Sunday. 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: He didn't show up, showed up the next day, okay, 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: of course, and. 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: Then I hunted him. 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, no pictures really of 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: him in November or since that Halloween and then and 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: even the Halloween was one o'clock in the morning, so 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't like he was daylight. 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 4: I was like, well, it's the rout. Anything can happen. 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: I just went sat there on November fifth, and then 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: I've just been waiting ever since. 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Well, so I think that's interesting that the historical data 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: was pretty close to right. Yeah, Like, which is you know, 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: something for everyone to consider this year. Obviously you were 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: able to catch up with them late season, and we've 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: had awesome I mean every week I've been saying that 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: we've had you know, really strong, you know, late season 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: weather in December obviously it's a little bit warmer right now. 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: The day you stroke struck this buck, what was your 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: level of confidence and why were you potentially confident? 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: I was probably like I didn't want to oversell myself, 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: but I was probably internally I knew it was gonna 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: get a chance at him that this past Tuesday, just 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: because one, he was there last week a week ago, 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: same day Tuesday, we had shitty weather, like bad low 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: pressure Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Tuesday came last week we had 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: high pressure, nice sunny, cold day and he was there 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: early three point thirty and I was like, well, same 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: thing's going on, same thing. I was like, I'm gonna 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: get in there nice and early. And he showed up 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: right on time, four o'clock. That's super cool. What where 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: are you hunting over? 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Like a primary food source, a place where you are yeah, 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: going cool, I'm not gonna I mean. 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: We're hunt I'm in Ohio hunting small you know, suburbs 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: and stuff. We're hunting corn and it's I bet if 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: they flew drone, there's probably fifty. 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Corn piles, you know. 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: But uh, once it starts getting real cold like this, 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: like I mean, I mean it's been brutal, like honestly, 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: like this winter just came with an abrupt fist and 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: was like I'm here, yeah, and uh, a lot of 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: guys I think just quit and he was just run down. 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he looked like he lost one hundred and 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: twenty pounds and lost an eye and I just found 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: out he's got a. 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: Big knot on his one leg. So like, I don't 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: know if everyone just quit. 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Feeding around me or if that's where he's been, and 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: like it ran out and he's like, oh, there's corn 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: over here, but yeah, I'm not gonna stay. Oh yeah, 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: I put all this time, and you know I was 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: just dumping corn man. 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's It's crazy what they go through in a year. 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: And I always wonder how many times a big buck 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: cheat's death. And clearly that deer probably cheated death a 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: handful of times, you know, from other deer and missing 105 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: an eyeball and you know, big lump on his leg. 106 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: And so last year, I'm trying to remember how frigid 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: December was. I don't remember it being real crazy or so. 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: I remember mild, really mild, honestly. 109 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: And so last year was he in there feeding in 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: December or so last. 111 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: Year I killed his running mate last year, and I 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: would have swore I was gonna kill this year. The 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: first day this year he was in there religiously, but 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: I again, acorns play a big part in it, and 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: it's not like I can just trump all over everyone's 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: private and see where acorns are dropping. You know, it's 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: not like it's a huge farm. So I just kind 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: of got to play it by year. But yeah, this 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: year he was I mean, dude, velvet. I got beautiful videos, 120 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: pictures all the way up him chadding bloody horned velvet. 121 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I told my wife. 122 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna kill him the first day 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: and then you know he's gone. 124 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's some lessons of sticking with it 125 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: and not giving up. I feel like that's that's probably 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: would you say that's one of the biggest pieces of 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: advice you can give someone for this time of years 128 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: is don't give up. 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: Don't don't give up one hundred percent. I could tell 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: another story where it was probably I don't know. When 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: I first moved to Ohio five years ago, I shot 132 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: under a buck. There was literally a week left in 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: the season. I told my wife, I'm like, screw this, 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm not going back out. It is what 135 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: it is. I'm terrible. I'm giving up for the year. 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: And she was like, you know, you should really go. 137 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: He's like trying to push. 138 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: Me to go, and I just didn't go, And I 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: went and pulled that camera card and that deer was 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: there the next three nights, an hour before dark, just 141 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: sitting there and just you can't give up this time 142 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: of year. 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: You just got to ride it out. 144 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: As much as it sucks hunting in this stuff. I 145 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: mean it's warm now, it's fifty five outside right now, 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: but I'm sure January is gonna get cold again, and 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: you just gotta find the food and just ride it out. 148 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's really I mean, this is 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: the truth everyone like you if you're hunting this late 150 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: in the seasons because it didn't happen yet and you're's 151 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: like to your point last year, Like, no, I suck 152 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: and I just need to hang it up. 153 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: But I think there's some pretty good advice in that. 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: So, like looking here, obviously, during the holidays, that might 155 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: be a super busy time for some people, it might 156 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: be a time where they might have an opportunity to 157 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: get out. Looking at the extent of forecast right now, 158 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: it looks like it's gonna you know, when this goes live, 159 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: it'll still be pretty darn mild, at least here in Illinois. 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: For those folks, do you have any words of advice? 161 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: Is that just maybe move cameras around and hang out 162 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: and wait for the next front, or would you have 163 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: enough conviction to go try a couple of times so 164 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: over the next seven days. 165 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh man, it depends what your life situation is. Honestly, 166 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: so I have a nine month old, I have a wife. 167 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: You know, if you're single and you can you know, 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: kind of living the bachelor life will say, and you 169 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: can get away with hunting. I feel like, I mean, 170 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: it sounds crazy, but if you can get in with 171 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: a good wind, why not. I mean, you've already we're 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: two months into the season, ohios, until February first. 173 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting close to the end here. 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: Why not just go if you can get in and 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 4: out clean. 176 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: But to the guy like me who's got a family, 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: it's holidays and stuff like that where you just kind 178 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: of have to pick and shoes. 179 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm probably waiting for a front. 180 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna find a deer, or if I have 181 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: a deer that's like on the edge of daylight, I'm 182 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: probably gonna wait for that next front and harmy yeah. 183 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: So with that's being said, scale one to ten, ten 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: being one of the best weeks of the year, one 185 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: being one of the worst weeks of the year. Next 186 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: seven days Christmas Eve Day to New Yor's Eve. 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: One to ten. Where do you put it, all things considered. 188 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: I could say it could be feast or famine. 189 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I would put it right in the 190 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: middle of five, because if the weather's gnarling and it's 191 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: cold and the deer like got a feed, it could 192 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: be a ten. You know, it could go fifty to fifty. 193 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: But now it's fifty five and it's gonna be rainy, 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: and it's just the complete opposite of what I was 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: hunting in, you know, on just two days ago. 196 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I think that's that's fair. And then 197 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: I'll ask you one last question, brand Newborn, any tips, 198 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: any tips for the guy that is, uh, I'm not 199 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: expecting anything, so I got for everyone. It's the stage 200 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: of life for a lot of people. 201 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's it. 202 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: So a lot of my friends were telling me I 203 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: wasn't hunting enough. That's why I haven't killed him, and 204 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: you know, all this stuff. And granted, if I would 205 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: have hunted every day. Yeah, probably would have killed him 206 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: back in October. But now with a newborn, I gotta 207 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: get a sitter. I got to call in a favor 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: with my sister in law or my mother in law. 209 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 210 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: My advice would be, man, just watch those cameras. 211 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: I know that, like people are like you kind of 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: have to get a pattern on a deer like rule 213 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: thumb for me. If he does something twice the third time, 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there. And this year was big proof 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: for that historical data. Man, really really like stave those 216 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: pictures from the year before. I know a lot of 217 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: guys just leave him in the app or whatever. But 218 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: I made a separate folder in my phone and I 219 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: store all those three and four year olds that maybe 220 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: in a couple of years I want to shoot for 221 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: the following next year, you can come back to that'll 222 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: save you so like then you can really plan. Okay, 223 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 3: I need to sit her on the seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth. 224 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hunt those three days and then my wife's 225 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: very understanding. Also, I don't have a ton of hobbies. 226 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: That's the other thing. 227 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: I know. 228 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Guys that goll punt fish do all this stuff. I 229 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: pretty much just hunt. 230 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: So I like it. 231 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, man, congratulations on connect with your buck here. I 232 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: hope you have an awesome, awesome Christmas. Appreciate it. And 233 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: good luck to your wife. I know she's still hunting Ohio. 234 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: And good luck if you venture out to Pennsylvania anymore. 235 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks, I appreciate it all. 236 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: Right. Next up we have Jake A. Lord with Hunters 237 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: of Vantaged podcast. Jake, how's it going? 238 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 6: It's going good man, Jake, thanks for having me on absolutely. 239 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: And so we were just talking earlier this month. We 240 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: were ragging about how great the winter weather was now 241 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: and mother Nature hurt us because it's gonna be a 242 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: little toasty. So you're down in Oklahoma, what do you 243 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: what have you been seeing in what's been going on 244 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: in your neck of the woods. 245 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, so just put in a little context. 246 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 6: I'm in northeast Oklahoma, so I don't know, probably thirteen 247 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: minutes or thirteen thirty minutes from you know, the Kansas border. 248 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 6: So around here we got a lot of pasture land 249 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: and so a lot of open areas and a little 250 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: bit of timber. And so you mix that with you know, 251 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 6: the two week gun season that just now happened here. 252 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 6: You can tell that the bucks and a lot of 253 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 6: the deer just kind of hanging tight to the timber 254 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: and so on. Camera wise, a lot of them aren't 255 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 6: usually coming out in those fields or you know, trying 256 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 6: to hit like your I. 257 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 7: Guess food sources because it's open areas. 258 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 6: But we don't have that ag that you know a 259 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: lot of the Kansas people do have. And so we 260 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 6: you know, utilize corn feeders, corn piles, whether people may 261 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 6: like it or not. Oklahoma's debate state. So that helps 262 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 6: at least for the private pieces. But like I said, 263 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 6: with all the pressure here lately, it's kind of of 264 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: not been pulling its weight, if that makes sense. 265 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: It's been tough in other words, Yeah, it's been real tough. Yeah. 266 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: And so so we were talking beforehand before we started 267 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: recording about you know, there's two scenarios where late season 268 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: hunting can be really good. You mentioned a food or 269 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: a sanctuary, and so talk about that a little bit because. 270 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Most people don't have that. 271 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: If we really paint the broader picture of most white 272 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: tail hunters that are listening to this, more than likely 273 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: they don't have those two things. And why are those important? 274 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: And what can someone do without them? 275 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, kind of like I said a second ago. 276 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: It you either need good sanctuary where the deer feel 277 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 6: safe after a long season and all the pressure, or 278 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 6: you need you know, that good food source, which you 279 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: know on my private piece that I have, we don't 280 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: have that because it's a permission piece. We can't do 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 6: much altering to the land. So no food plot, it's 282 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: no late season food sources. So that's why we stick 283 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 6: with corn. But I mean, it's it's okay if you 284 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: don't have those. It isn't like all hoops lost. But 285 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 6: the thing is, instead of just having it now, you 286 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: got to go find it. So you know, like I said, 287 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: the private's kind of out of the picture if I'm 288 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 6: still wanting to punch my tag, And so that moves 289 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 6: us to public where you actually can go put boots 290 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 6: on the ground and find those food sources. And so 291 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 6: you can't bait on public here in Oklahoma, which is okay, 292 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 6: But what you do need is that good natural browse 293 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 6: the food source, and so down here that's usually like 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 6: those oaks, red oaks, stuff like that, those late dropping ones. 295 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 7: So that's kind of what we key in on. 296 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: And you know, not all of them are obviously the ticket, 297 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: and especially now, it seems like all the deer during 298 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: this late season they're all getting like congregated again. I 299 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 6: don't know if that's just because they're all grouping back 300 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 6: up and you know, want to say hi to each 301 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 6: other after a long rut, or if that's just kind 302 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 6: of food centralized where the food's kind of making them 303 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 6: congregate in all this one area. But what we've been seeing, 304 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: and I mean, maybe not so much this late season 305 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 6: just because like I told you, Yester, I've been kind 306 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: of getting my butt kicked. But like years past and stuff, 307 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 6: if you can find those really good dropping oaks, can 308 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 6: find the deer. So you just want those food sources 309 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 6: where you get a whole lot of sign with the 310 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 6: up be droppings tracks, whatever you call your deer sign. 311 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 6: That's what you want to see around those oak trees. 312 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: How challenging is it for someone uh to go find 313 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, that congregation of deer? 314 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Is it just putting on putting on miles. 315 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 7: It's a lot of walking. It's a lot of walking. 316 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 6: I mean, you could try to put cameras and just 317 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 6: maybe focus these, it'd be it'd be really hard to 318 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: try to I guess pattern the oaks with your cameras 319 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 6: to try to figure out which ones. I mean, if 320 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 6: you had enough cameras you might be able to, but 321 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: you you'd be checking at least ten plus different spots 322 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: or areas just try to find those those good ones. 323 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 6: And of course, as you know that natural brows and 324 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 6: acorns and stuff like that, everything's trying to hit them, 325 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: so it's like a it's like a. 326 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 7: Temporary thing even when you do find them. 327 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: So it's just you got to you gotta find it 328 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 6: when it's hot, and you got to be there, and 329 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 6: if not, then it's just it just makes it a 330 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 6: lot tougher result. 331 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's I think a lot of people are 332 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: in that boat. If we're being honest, If you don't 333 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: have the right set up, it is, there's no doubt 334 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: about it. 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: It's very challenging. 336 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: And so how how hard do you think it would 337 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: be on a scale one of ten to go to 338 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: go find like two or three options for someone and 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: they just be honest. But I think there'll be someone 340 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: that's like, oh no, it can't be the hard, and 341 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: maybe it'll be reverse psychology to encourage someone to go 342 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: try this. 343 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 6: I mean if if you want me to give motivation, 344 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 6: then it's not going to be very hard. But if 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 6: you want me to be realistic, then it's probably gonna 346 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 6: be like a I don't know. I'd probably say if 347 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 6: ten's the hardest, it'd be about a six or seven, 348 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: Like it's going to be more. 349 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 7: Hard than not, like whether people want to admit it 350 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 7: or not. 351 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 6: Like, unless you have that food source of sanctuary, the 352 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: best time of the year is over. And I don't 353 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 6: want to put damper in people's plans, but that's just 354 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 6: the reality of it. And I like looking at things 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 6: of kind of how they are, and uh that way, 356 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: you know, hunting is a metal game. You know more 357 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 6: than I do. And uh, if your if your mindset's 358 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 6: not there, then it's like you're gonna have a horrible 359 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: time out there, and more than likely you're just not 360 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 6: even gonna strap on the boots and go. So uh, 361 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 6: I think having that mindset of knowing like, hey, this 362 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 6: is going to be tough, but if I find the ticket, 363 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 6: like you're gonna have a great hunt. So it will 364 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 6: be tough, but if you can find that care at 365 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 6: the end of the stick, it will be well well 366 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 6: worth it. 367 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 7: Just because you're going to see so many deer. 368 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I might be jump with a gun here. 369 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: Uh would you say another added benefit is scown for 370 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: next year as well? 371 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: You're in there. 372 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually what what we're doing a lot of 373 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 6: the time. So uh, when you are walking around looking 374 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 6: for those uh those good dropping oaks right now, like 375 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 6: that's you run into so much good sign So it 376 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 6: like again, it's not like you're just wasting time out 377 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: there because you are taking you know, that intel for 378 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 6: next year. 379 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 7: And so no, that is that is a really good point. 380 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up. 381 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm trying to think here as far as 382 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: you know what you're anticipating here for the next week, 383 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, Merry Christmas to everyone, and sometimes that makes 384 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: sometimes that might be one of the busiest times of 385 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: the year for some families, or maybe if they don't 386 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: have to travel for the holidays, it might they might 387 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: be able to get out there and do some of 388 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: the things that you just discussed. But looking at the 389 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: elevated temperatures for the majority of the country here, at 390 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: least on the start of it looks like there is 391 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: a front that's rolling in the later part of the week, 392 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: at least here in Illinois scale one to ten, ten 393 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: being the best week of the year, one being one 394 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: of the worst weeks of the year of twenty twenty five, 395 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: Where would you rank. 396 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: It for the next you know, seven days? 397 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 6: I mean, so we got Christmas obviously, so I feel 398 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 6: like more people are going to have that time off. 399 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 6: And that's kind of all it takes this time of 400 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 6: year is just if you have that extra time. Now granted, 401 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: obviously spend that with families, spend that with friends, but 402 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 6: if you have that time off, it can be really good. 403 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 6: Like I have a buddy here. His name's Cooper Hill. 404 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 6: He is the late season dude, and that's exactly the 405 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 6: strategy he does. He shot so Oklahoma season ends. I 406 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 6: know we're not all the way there yet, but it 407 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: ends January fourteenth or fifteenth, and he killed a super 408 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 6: nice bock on public doing that Oak strategy on January fourteenth, 409 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 6: and he said he's seen more bucks on those couple 410 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 6: sits than he has the whole entire the whole entirety 411 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 6: of the year. 412 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 7: So not all hope is lost. 413 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: It is just tougher to find those spots, but when 414 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 6: you do, it will pay off, So okay. 415 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 7: To wrap that up, sorry, a number. Wise I would 416 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 7: probably give it. 417 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: I'd probably still give it like a six, but I'm 418 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 6: going to say like a seven just because it's going 419 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 6: to be harder to find, like I said, but when you. 420 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Do, it's good. I like it. 421 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: Well hopefully you know. I still feel to your point. 422 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: You know, depending on where you're what state you're in, 423 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: you know seasons, you know it's not over here just 424 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: because the calendar switches a twenty six, oh for sure, 425 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: and so and also next year we'll be here before 426 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: we know too, like believe it or not, knock on wood, dear. 427 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Season happens every year. 428 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: So if you can still learn something that helps you 429 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: the next year, I think that's a really great piece 430 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: of advice. 431 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 6: Anything else here, Jake before we wrap it up, No, nope, 432 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 6: I just appreciate you having me on, Jake. 433 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 7: It's always good to sit down and talk some deer 434 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: hunting with you. 435 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: So if people want to go and listen to your guys' 436 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: podcast too, where is the best place to do that 437 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: and what are you guys covering? 438 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's me and my buddy Christian Babcock. You 439 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 6: can find us on Spotify, YouTube, Apple Podcast. 440 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 7: It's just hundredsdvantage on all those things. 441 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you so much, good luck the rest of 442 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: the season. Merry Christmas. Hope you have a Grete twenty six. Thanks, 443 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: shake you too, all right. Next up on the line 444 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: we have Tommy Dickerson. Tommy has helped out on the 445 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: white Tail podcast this past year, and you've had a 446 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: really exciting season and most recently you shot a buck 447 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: in Indiana. 448 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: How does it feel feels good? 449 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: Jake? 450 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 5: It feels really good, all right, any of it's a 451 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: fun state to get after it in different gun seasons 452 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 5: in Ohio where I'm from, Bordon Raids, So it's really 453 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 5: nice to. 454 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 8: Be able to hop over there and get some gun 455 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 8: hunting in. 456 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 5: Essentially, I can home with a gun vow whenever I want, 457 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: you know, after November. 458 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 8: Fifteenth, or whenever their season comes in. So it's pretty exciting. 459 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 8: Love hopping the border and be able to do that. 460 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me a little bit about your planing 461 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: here to hop over to Indiana. Was the weather related, 462 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: intel related? Or you had some free time and you 463 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: wanted to go. 464 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: So all my late season hunting is targeted around the weather. 465 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 8: I won't go out if I don't think that there's 466 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 8: gonna be any decent weather. So that's a big temperature change. 467 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 8: This buck showed up late in the year. 468 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: I didn't even know he really existed, and I found 469 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: him just because I was going to take down all 470 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: the cameras on this farm and take. 471 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 8: Them to Ohio and put them on our farm. 472 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 5: And I just walked in Detember just when I was 473 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: pulling the cameras and saw a bunch of sign and 474 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 5: realized that, hey, there's actually a buck using this. So 475 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: got in there and got some new cameras out, found 476 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: the buck, and then waited for a temperature change. 477 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 8: Last week we had a big temperature drop, as in. 478 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: The negatives chased them around and couldn't make it happen. 479 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 5: And I saw a temptature drop on Friday and went 480 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 5: in there and saw them. 481 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. 482 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: And so tell tell me a little bit about the 483 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: sign that made you stick around, right, because I think 484 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: there's some some good advice there for really anyone for 485 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: the remainder of the season. Like I feel, you got 486 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: to keep staying nimble and if you're not on something, 487 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: maybe try to go find something. And that's kind of 488 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: what happened for you, What was the sign they got 489 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: you excited was a rub scrapes, just a bunch of tracks. 490 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 5: So there were there's scrapes that were ahead and also 491 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: there's deer beds, but they were single beds. They were 492 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: I wasn't finding them, you know, right right next. 493 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 8: To each other, like it was dozed betting. It was 494 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 8: more there spread out. 495 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 5: There'd at least be a couple of hundred yards between 496 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 5: beds and just the thick, nasty part of this farm. 497 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: And so I kind of figured at that point that. 498 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 8: There was a buck in there. 499 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: There were there's multiple bucks into the age class of them. 500 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 8: Once I once I got those cameras. 501 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: Out, then after I found that signed it took twenty 502 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 5: four hours when I found the dear. So after that 503 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: it was you know, just out of the small little 504 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: shift and my mindset of how to hunt the farm 505 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 5: and where the deer were enabled. 506 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 8: Me to connect with the buck. So that was pretty 507 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 8: exciting to find. 508 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so shows up on camera and then you 509 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: look at the weather temperature drop. 510 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: What was your setup like? 511 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: Was he was he headed a cut cornfield, bean field, 512 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: alfalfa acorns. 513 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: What was kind of his feeding pattern. 514 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 8: So he he was in he was feeding cut corn, 515 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 8: and so on this form the former used. 516 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 5: I think he's a hobby former, and so he has 517 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 5: all the older equipment and he doesn't kill the corn 518 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: under which is cute, especially in the late season. So 519 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 5: since he used the older equipment, it's not as it's 520 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: not as great picking up the corn when they're cutting it. 521 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of corn that gets left. And 522 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: then when he doesn't till it under all that corn 523 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 5: stays out. 524 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 8: And so that's why I think he's here. 525 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 5: We're targeting this field that I had the ability to hunt. 526 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. 527 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: That old equipment is becoming a thing of the past 528 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: of farm country across the country, so that that's uh, 529 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: that's a really big benefit to have. 530 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Basically a lot of food that gets left over. 531 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, I wish, I wish, honest they had 532 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: the the make the equipment drop more corn just to 533 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 5: help the g out across the states, are you know, 534 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: across him his west. 535 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 8: I think we got bigger here just in general. 536 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no for sure. And so. 537 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Over the cut cornfield this, how many deer did you 538 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: see that evening? 539 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Was? It? 540 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 8: Was? 541 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: It a full house was it was he the last 542 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: buck to come out? What what was that like? Uh? 543 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: So I sold five that came out into the field 544 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: and then where I can see up into the woods 545 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 5: and this woods needs some serious ts. I work real open, 546 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: and I saw some deer up in there as well. 547 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 8: But in the field, five different bucks came out. 548 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: Didn't see it though, which was pretty interesting to see 549 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 5: that they were all grouping together, especially from the sign 550 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 5: that I found saying that they weren't bedding together. I 551 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: think when I found those beds, it was still November, 552 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 5: and I think I killed it here on the nineteenth, 553 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 5: so I think at that point in the season they 554 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: probably all started to clump together a little bit more, 555 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: which was pretty beneficial. It's kind of cool to see, 556 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: like it almost was like a bachelor group where these 557 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: bucks were living together, but he was clearly the oldest, 558 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: and then there's a couple of two year olds and 559 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 5: then a couple of our. 560 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 8: Year half shields as well. 561 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and so yeah, that's that's really awesome, man. 562 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: And I think for anyone out there, reshuffle those cameras 563 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: or find find the hobby farm corn field, or find 564 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: find the food for sure, and so kind of looking 565 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: here for the for the near future, I mean temperatures 566 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: here for warmed up just a little bit, and then 567 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, looking at the extended forecast, it looks like, 568 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: you know, when this goes live, it's going to be 569 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: pretty warm, but there is another cold front. 570 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: So for folks that are hopefully. 571 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Going to get you know, maybe a little bit of 572 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: time over the holiday, maybe they don't have as much 573 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: commitments and they're going to be able to sneak out 574 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: for a couple of evenings, what would you tell those folks? 575 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: So what I would tell them is if you have 576 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 5: green resources while it's warm, and you have the ability 577 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 5: to hunt. You know a lot of people do get 578 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: those couple of days off of the family and they 579 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 5: have access to you know. 580 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 8: Different properties hunt. I would key and on group any 581 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 8: kind of green food source for when it's warmer, and. 582 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: Then once that tendency drop does hit, I would get 583 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 5: back on the ag. 584 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 8: If you have skating corn, stay and beans. 585 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 5: Cut corn, whatever it is, I would get onto that 586 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: ag as soon as you can for that cold product 587 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: because they are going to be coming for it, especially 588 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 5: when you've got a long period of you know, it's. 589 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 8: Real warm and then cuts down the real cold they're 590 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 8: going to hit. 591 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: The ad mm hmm. 592 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like, you know, for that next week 593 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: is going to be warm, so hunt the greens on 594 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: the on the front part of that. And then it 595 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: looks like temperatures they're not going to be frigid, frigid 596 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: or as cold as what it has been earlier in 597 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: this month of December, but there's still going to be 598 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: a drop And so I think that's that's some really 599 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: good advice. 600 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Are you Are you. 601 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Throwing any morning hunts out this time? I know people 602 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: it's almost like that's a tongue in cheek question, but 603 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: there might be some people that have time they're like, well, 604 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out and throw a morning hunt. Where 605 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: where do you stand on this? 606 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: So I do believe that there you can't fully x like, 607 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 5: you can't just cross it out of your strategy, right. 608 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 8: I think that that'd be a bad. 609 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: Approach to hunting as a whole, is just to exit 610 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: anything out of the strategy because of a certain time 611 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: of year. But obviously the evenings are significantly better for 612 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 5: access reasons and also getting them out in front of daylight. 613 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: But if you're able to run elcams. Sometimes if you 614 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 5: have a buck on a pattern, you can figure out. 615 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: So let's say he comes out right after dark and 616 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: then he might you know, or right after dark until 617 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 5: eleven o'clock at night. 618 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 8: Team might come out. 619 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 5: Late in the morning, especially during a cool front, onto. 620 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 8: That food and so you can get in there without. 621 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: Pumping all the deer off the food source, then you 622 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: probably will have a pretty decent hunt. But mature bucks 623 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: nine ninety five percent of the time, like you want 624 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: to be in any nay, just because if you bump 625 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: the doze off in the smaller box, like he's going 626 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 5: to notice that and it's not going to happen for you. 627 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to circle back to I know a 628 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: part of Ohio that you hunt. 629 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: You know there was EHD. 630 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: I know that that's a very serious thing for a 631 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, in many pockets of the country, 632 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: but obviously Ohio got the most attention this year for 633 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: just the amount of carnage that quite frankly happened. What 634 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: have you been seen or maybe what you have not 635 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: been seen on cameras here uh in Ohio? And I 636 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: guess kind of like your boots on the ground report 637 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: regarding that. 638 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 5: So on my Ohio farm, Western Ohio, we did not 639 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: get hit with the AHD at all, which is pretty incredible. 640 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 8: But where I go to school in Athens, after Ohio, 641 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 8: Southeast Ohio. 642 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: Right in the central essentially of where EAHD hit hard, 643 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: it's been tough talking to different hunters. There's a lot 644 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: of people that are say they're not saying year that they. 645 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 8: They're struggling. 646 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: But I think this time of year, if you're in 647 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 5: an area they got hit with the HD hard the year, 648 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 5: are going to group together because this naturally essentially that's 649 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: what they do when they're food. So if you this 650 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: might be the best time of year if you did 651 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: have an HD break or outbreak to find a food 652 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: source and get a big buck killed, because that that 653 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: big buck is going to keen on the whatever primary 654 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 5: food sources in. 655 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 8: His region and he's going to be in. 656 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: There no matter what. Yeah. 657 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: No, I think that's uh, that's great advice, And I 658 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: think it'll be a great inventory to you to see 659 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: what survivors made it through and maybe what nextra my 660 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: look like too, because I mean, I think for a 661 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: lot of hunters too, next season's already started right now. 662 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: Too. 663 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: I know season is still open for the majority of 664 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: the country, but for a lot of folks they're already 665 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: thinking about next year, which I think is a totally 666 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: healthy thing to do and a holistic thing to look at, 667 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: and so I think that's good intel, just to see 668 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: what maybe made it through. 669 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: Now looking at the. 670 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: Weather here, Christmas time somewhat decent weather scale one to ten, 671 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: ten being one of the best weeks of the year, 672 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: one being one of the worst weeks of the year. 673 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: Where do you put the last seven days of twenty 674 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: and twenty five according to your intel, insight and gut feeling. 675 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: I even though there is a big tempt to drop, 676 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be a killer time 677 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: to be in the woods. 678 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 8: Especially when there's no snow. We're all hoping for a 679 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 8: white Christmas. I don't think we're going to get it. 680 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 8: But if you have the time to go out. 681 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: And want to go out with family's friends, whatever it is, give. 682 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: It a set. 683 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 5: Okay, I think there is probability that you can get 684 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: it done. But overall, I think there could be better 685 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: times than year when you can be in there. I 686 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: don't want to discourage anyone from going out, Like, if 687 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: you still want to go. 688 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 8: Out and you have a year that you want to 689 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 8: get killed, go out and try and kill them. But 690 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 8: I think there could be better times. 691 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: Of this season still last for someone else to get 692 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 5: in there, but don't let that stop you from y'all out. 693 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I like it. 694 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations Tommy on a great year. Merry Christmas to you, 695 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens for the rest of your season. 696 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: I know Ohio, Ohio goes late in comparison to many 697 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: other states, So good luck for the rest of the 698 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: season for Ohio and we'll see you next time. 699 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 8: Awesome, Thanks Jake. 700 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: All Right, there, you guys have it. 701 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed this season of ret fresh 702 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: I hope you guys have a very merry Christmas, a 703 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: happy New Year, and you get a chance to spend 704 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: some time with friends and family, maybe even sneak out, 705 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: do a little deer honey, or maybe just get outside 706 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: and enjoy some fresh air, because I think it's going 707 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: to be a little bit warmer here for the first 708 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: part of this upcoming week, so we will see you 709 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: and thank you.