1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: All right, hey, this is Freddie Rodriguez and I'm Wilmer 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: brother Rama. Welcome to the Those Amigos podcast. You know 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: you can see we're already laughing Roman. Well if you're not, 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: you can hear our smile also, but you can see 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: it as well. So all of you who have been 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: watching and listening to our podcast for so long, thank 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: you so much. He is a very special episode for 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: us because our third amigo today is someone not only 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: very dear, but he's really blood brother with us. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, he is my family. His mother is my mother, 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: his father is my father. I know his family dearly, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: and I love him like he's my brother. Ladies and gentlemen, 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: please help woman, and I welcome Adam Rodriguez. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: For this interview. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: You can keep your shirt on. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: Please you. I'm like, where are my hat? I'm like, 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: how am I looking? 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: Because the crowd speaking of shirt on, I remember and 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to just start here. Adam came to my 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: house one time and we were playing poker and my 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: wife cooked. You know, she's Puerto Rican, she could Puerto 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: Rican rice. And Adam came with his own tupp aware 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: of like salmon. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 5: When was this? 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: This is like a decade and you're in production probably 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: like imagine, Mike, Yeah, I went to every restaurant in 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: LA with that, because I didn't stop my social life. 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 6: I would literally go to restaurants. Luckily, I go to 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 6: the same places all the time, so nobody gave me 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 6: any ship. But like I would bring my little prepared 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 6: meal and sit and have socialized. 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: But I was just gonna eat whatever was in that. 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Elsie was like, aren't you going to eat? 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: I made rice and I was like, no, man, I 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: got my little salmon here. 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: We're like, come on, man, we were drinking back then. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: We're like, come have a drink with us. No, man, 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm having my little salmon. 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: But I got it to explain to our listeners and 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: our yours. So what happens is when you're entering a 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: role and you're preparing for a role, you have to 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: be incredibly strict because not only you have to be 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: in some type of shape, but you also have to 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: maintain it for a certain amount of time. 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: I can't even imagine for Magic Minke, because you know 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: that was. 48 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: That changed my life. 49 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Man. 50 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 6: Those movies are that first one especially, but then the 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 6: second one as well, Like you know, taught me about 52 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 6: diet and how critical diet is to getting in shape 53 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 6: because when that call came in. 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: So I've been training with a guy named. 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 6: Tito Raymondo and now it's become a dear, dear friend 56 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 6: of mine over the years. We probably know each other 57 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 6: twenty years now. And you know, remember when I got 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: that job, man, I was like, listen, man, I wasn't 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 6: like I got to be a male stripper. 60 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: Man. 61 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: We only had six weeks to prepare, and I. 62 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 2: Was, you know, six weeks, only had six weeks. 63 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 6: I always keep my body moving, but I'm never like, 64 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 6: I don't walk around with a six pack. 65 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: That's just not me. I enjoyed, I enjoy eating. I 66 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: love food. 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 6: I'm not like, you know, oh my god, I don't 68 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 6: see a six pack, Like what's up? 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: So I was like, is this going to be possible? 70 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 7: Man? 71 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 6: You know, because I don't have six weeks to do this? Like, 72 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 6: am I going to have to take steroids? 73 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: I don't want to. 74 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. 75 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is a massive opportunity in my life 76 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 6: to like, you know, and I got to show up 77 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 6: prepared and a challenge for you to big time challenge 78 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: you know, Steven Soderberg and McConnaughey and Channing and you know, 79 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 6: and just an opportunity to be in a in a 80 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: film that I knew was going to be seen on 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 6: a scale that nothing I'd ever done before was going 82 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 6: to be seen. And so, I mean, I don't think 83 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: anybody could predict how big it was was going to 84 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 6: be and spawn a whole other business. But you know, 85 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 6: I just didn't want to show up and be the 86 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 6: weak link, you know, and and you know. 87 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 5: They shoot around you. 88 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, like. 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: Forward. 90 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 6: So I was on a mission, man, to just like 91 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: make sure I was my very best. And he was like, no, no, 92 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: we don't need to do that, like you're not gonna 93 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 6: And I was relieved because it was the first time 94 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 6: i life, I had ever even considered, you know, maybe 95 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: doing well. 96 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: Nowadays nowadays, that's like the first thing, you know, a 97 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: trainer is going to be. It's like all right, cool, 98 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you on this and this, and there's 99 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: no like negotiations like can I do it with food? 100 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 6: Can just Fortunately Tito was you know, he had a 101 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 6: bodybuilding career and he was natural. He stopped the bodybuilding 102 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 6: actually because the next level for him would have had 103 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: to be you know, to get on you know, steroids, 104 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 6: a whole program of that kind of thing. And he 105 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 6: was like, no, you don't need to do it, man, 106 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: but you're gonna have to work your ass off in it. 107 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 6: And I never worked so hard man, between the diet 108 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: and you know, two three hours a day of cardios. 109 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: How many how many days were you working out with. 110 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 6: I worked out six days a week. Yeah, I was 111 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 6: working out six days a week. Sunday was like, uh, 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 6: you know you could have one cheat meal on a Sunday. 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 5: What did that cheat meal look like? 114 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 6: Usually, like I love breakfast, It was probably like pancakes. 115 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: You know that's early. 116 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 6: And and then I would hit cardio and because I yeah, 117 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: I was doing cardio seven days a week. I mean 118 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 6: I remember seeing you seven time, man, So I was 119 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 6: on set. You know, I was getting up, you know, 120 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 6: before my call time, getting cardio in, then getting my 121 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: workout in. You know it's not usually before work or 122 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 6: if I got an early call time. 123 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: Whatever it was. I was navigating all of that. And 124 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: then my meals were just programmed for for the day. 125 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 6: So I had six weeks man, and and and what 126 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 6: I saw what my body could do. 127 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 4: I was like, wow, this is incredible. 128 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Who prepared your meals? 129 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: So I had my shout out to Rohan. 130 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 5: My boy wrote Rohan. 131 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, Rohan is a chef, Rohan and he he yeah, 132 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 7: he just he was up for some sidework at the time. 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: So him and I would meet at like a parking 134 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: lot of a smart and final deal beach. 135 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: Here's the chicken breast, two big bags with food like 136 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: fourteen meals in them for a few days, and we 137 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: would exchange. 138 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: And like I'd give him the old bags with old container. 139 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I got exactly what it looked like a 140 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 6: drug deal and look like it up to Miami vice man. 141 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, we got it done. 142 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 6: And then when I learned that, when the second movie 143 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 6: came up, I was more confident bout knowing that I 144 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: could be able to do it. 145 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah I'm sand at this point. 146 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but yeah, I just learned a tremendous amount 147 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 6: about that man. 148 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: So so just kind of recapping a little bit. 149 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Everyone loves you for many things, but I want to 150 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: make sure we gave you flowers a couple of things. 151 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: So so you are iconically we're one. 152 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Of the first, you know, batch wearing a good guys 153 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Latinos on TV, you know, see Outside Miami, which was yea, 154 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: and you know, for us to have like a dude 155 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: that was catching the bad guys and that wasn't the 156 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: bad guy on the cop show, it is absolutely beautiful. 157 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: You were one of those first ones to be on 158 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: prime time to do that. 159 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: So I want to make sure people understand and realize 160 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: how how much space we got to make for that, 161 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: because because of characters like yours, you know that cast 162 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: could be colorful after that, right, So that that's that's 163 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: something you should know that we all know it isn't 164 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: we all know that? Then you go from there. 165 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: It's funny real quick. 166 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: Just a footnote on that that I got my SAG 167 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: card as a standing in photo double for a guy 168 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 6: that was Latino wearing the badge even before that on 169 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 6: New York Undercover Michael de Lorenzo. 170 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Yes, well, well look we got to start from the beginning, yes, yes, 171 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: right back, because I was kind of what were you 172 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: where were you born? 173 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: I was born in New York. I was born in Yonkers, 174 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: all right. 175 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: Really got a flat so hard look that New York cat. 176 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: He came here repid, so so okay, so you're born 177 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: in Yonkers, right, what did your what did your pop 178 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: and your mom do? 179 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: My father, he was figuring it out. 180 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 6: My dad was always a hard worker, hard working guy, 181 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 6: just trying to figure out to ray shout out pop 182 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 6: uh to where to direct that energy really, you know. 183 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 6: And so he was a military guy for years and 184 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 6: then he sold insurance. 185 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: He drove limos. 186 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 6: He was a lawyer too, right, Well, he was trying 187 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 6: to figure it out, and my mother, I think, was 188 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 6: getting a little fed up, and he's like, listen, you 189 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 6: need to pick. 190 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: Up the pack. 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: You know, we got to move on because you know, 192 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 6: you need to get get life figured out or whatever. 193 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: And so when I was I. 194 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: Guess I was about five, he moved up to Boston 195 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 6: to go to law school. He started going to college 196 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 6: end of the seventies. He went to Fordham University in 197 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 6: the Bronx and then he moved up to Boston and 198 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 6: went to Northeastern Law School. And so he gi bill, Yeah, 199 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 6: he took advantage of the gi bill and then he 200 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 6: went up there and he was he lived there. He 201 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: would come home, you know, probably once a weekend for sure, 202 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 6: sometimes more, I mean once a month for sure. 203 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes twice because he had to come home to do 204 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: army reserves. 205 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: So he would come home, do his reserves, see us, 206 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 6: and then go back. He probably came home maybe more 207 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 6: than once a month. But yeah, so that was the 208 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 6: deal for like four years. And then he got out 209 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: of that, and then it turns out he he instead 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 6: of practicing law, he ended up working, you know, for 211 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 6: New York government, just like working in an office for 212 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 6: small business. I'm trying to remember what it was. It 213 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 6: was something to do with women in small business. He 214 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 6: worked at an office there, and then he worked for 215 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 6: Mario Cuomo, the Governor's office. 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: You know, my dad. 217 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 6: He just bounced around wherever there was a good opportunity 218 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 6: bouncing around. He's very charismatic guy is you know, yeah, yeah, you. 219 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: Know, he's a sweetheart, he really is. 220 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: And that personality actually, I mean, as the story goes on, 221 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 6: you'll see really where that had such a big impact 222 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 6: on my life later on down the road because I 223 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 6: got my first break, you know, not to fast forward 224 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 6: too quickly, but really got my first big break from 225 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 6: a guy that my dad was in the army reserves with. 226 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 5: How did that come up? 227 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: Man? 228 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: So I started doing I started doing background on New 229 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 6: York Undercover and. 230 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: Doing that for a couple of years. 231 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 6: And through that process was you know, I knew I 232 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 6: wanted to act, but I just wanted to be on 233 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: a set somewhere, and so the opportunity to do background 234 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 6: work came up. There. I became a regular sort of 235 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: uh you know, part of the background crew on that 236 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 6: on that show, and then became a photo double and 237 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: a stand in, and that's where I got my SAG card. 238 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 6: Made lifelong friends there, you know, Malik Yoba and his 239 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 6: his sister Rahima and you know, just a crew of 240 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 6: people there that took me under their wing. And it 241 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 6: was that was actually the first place that I loved 242 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 6: that I could do a whole episode just talking about 243 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 6: my experience on that show. It was the first group 244 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 6: of people I met that they believed in me. You know, 245 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 6: there was a crew there, riche Owings. It was Dick 246 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 6: Wolf Show, Yeah, Dick Wolf Show. And it was huge, man, 247 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 6: I mean that time it was huge because it was 248 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 6: very you know, it was the first time you saw, uh, 249 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 6: you know, an urban cast like. 250 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 5: That, black and brown together, black and brown. 251 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 6: You know, you've seen black and white a million times. 252 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: Bill Cosby and you know the guy that he used 253 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: to do I spy with him, blanking out on his 254 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 6: name Robert something maybe. But anyway, you know you I 255 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 6: mean countless you've seen Black and White. Nick noted the 256 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 6: Eddie Murphy you know, the black and brown together on 257 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 6: that show you had never seen. 258 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: And the soundtrack. 259 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Was hip hop was all over. 260 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 6: That show, and it was current and in the moment, 261 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 6: and you know, people our age were like, oh, that 262 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: feels like us. You know, it was really ahead of 263 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 6: its time in that way. 264 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: And shout out to Michael too. 265 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Mike. 266 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: He was a dancer and he was in Fame. Man, 267 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 6: he was in Fame, the television show Fame. You know, uh, 268 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 6: super talented guy. 269 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Man. So those people on that show, they they just 270 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: were so good to me. Man. 271 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 6: Richie Owings was a costume designer and uh you know 272 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 6: they had some people in other departments. Anyway, they helped 273 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 6: me get head shots. Shout out to Stephen McBride man. 274 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 6: He was a photographer and basically my first photo shoot 275 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 6: I ever did. Like the people, they were like, look, 276 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 6: we want to put it, put together. Photo shoot will 277 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 6: make you the subject of it. They just helped me 278 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: out in ways that you know that I'm so grateful for. 279 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 6: So anyway, I'm doing this for a couple of years, 280 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 6: doing extra work. 281 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: But how did you even get into it? Into extra work? 282 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: Well in his past, Like Wendy, You're like, you know what, acting. 283 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: How did that? Okay, you know what? 284 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: Taking it back to that, yeah, you know, leading up 285 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 6: to all that, it was always sports, baseball in particular, 286 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 6: I thought like, Okay, that was going to be my path. 287 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 6: I'll go to college and play baseball. Maybe I'll be 288 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 6: lucky enough to take it, you know. Somewhere from there, 289 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 6: about eighteen, you know, I had a couple of injuries 290 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 6: that I realized, like, this just isn't going any further. 291 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: I didn't have the discipline to get back on the 292 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 6: horse and go after it in the way that that. 293 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: I realize now as a baseball was my spouse. Yeah, yeah, and. 294 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 6: I look back on it now and I'm like, yeah, 295 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 6: you see, the guys that make it, they just either 296 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 6: you got to be uber, uber talented on a level 297 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 6: that's like, you know, hard to believe. But even with that, 298 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 6: even with the talent, if you don't have the discipline 299 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 6: and the drive to work hard, the talent's only going 300 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: to take. 301 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: The perfect star. 302 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. You got to have it all man, 303 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: especially to make it to that level. And so. 304 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 6: I didn't have that, and I was trying to figure 305 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 6: out what the next move was. And so I knew 306 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: it wasn't college for me because I wasn't this, wasn't 307 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 6: interested in learning in a structured environment in that way. 308 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 6: That just that just wasn't for me. I love learning, 309 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 6: but I'm more of an autodid act. I like to 310 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 6: learn on my own and read on my own and 311 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: process the information myself and not, you know, not have 312 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: it be about getting a grade or having you know, 313 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 6: somebody else's opinion about how I'm learning it and being 314 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: judged in that way. So, but my mother was like, listen, 315 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: you either staying out to Janet shout out mom, uh yeah, 316 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 6: stay in school, go get a full time job, or 317 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 6: join the military. Those were those were my options. So 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: she was you're not going to sit around while you 319 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 6: try and figure it out. 320 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: To my mother with your dad, she was pissed that 321 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to I can see her doing this 322 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: pissed for years. 323 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 6: She was pissed that I wasn't going to college. I 324 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 6: mean even after I started working as an actor. I 325 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: think it really was a thorn in her side. 326 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: So you're eighteen, you said, you're like, I'm not going 327 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: to college. 328 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: Janet cracks the whip. 329 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: Cracks the whip. So I'm like, cool. I had a 330 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: job as a bellman at a hotel. 331 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: Oh well what hotel I was? 332 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: Uh, I was contracted by Marriott. Marriott was the contractor, 333 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: so technically I was an employee of Marriott, but it 334 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: was an IBM owned property. It was this beautiful campus 335 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 6: across the water from Manhattan, uh, in an area called Palisades, 336 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: New York. And it was basically a facility where they 337 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 6: educated and hosted all of like Fortune five hundred. 338 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: Events. 339 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: Basically, so like you know, let's say, like the c 340 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 6: suite staff of a Fortune five hundred company might be 341 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 6: sent there for a week. 342 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: It's like a corporate stay for the for the think 343 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: tanking and exactly. 344 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 6: So we were serving those folks and I was a 345 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 6: bellman and I did that for a couple of years. 346 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: Man out of high school. 347 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean, people make careers out of that. 348 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I never thought about it. Never, Never 349 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 6: for a moment that I think I was going to 350 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 6: stay there in. 351 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: The hotel you man, Like, yeah. 352 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 6: You're making I'm sure I wasn't making, like not the 353 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 6: kind of like I always had big aspirations, man, I 354 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 6: always yeah, but dreams for me, it was like yeah, 355 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 6: never that's for better or for worse, you know. 356 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what was there an image or something that 357 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: made you go like I can do that? 358 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: So I'm you know, I always believed growing up. I 359 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: I was a latchy kid. There was you know, my 360 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 6: mom was always at work, my father was always at work, 361 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 6: and so you know, I was home probably eight hours 362 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 6: a day by myself, me and my sister, eight to 363 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 6: ten hours a day between the morning and the evening. 364 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: And so I watched a crazy amount of television and movies, 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: Like the TV was on twenty four seconds? 366 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: What like what was what was man? 367 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: Like every single thing like you know, oh Man, yeah, Ships, 368 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 6: Charlie Different Charlie's Angels, Bionic Man, Bionic Woman, yeah, or 369 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: six million Dollar Man, Bionic Woman, wonder Woman, Uh, credible. 370 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 6: Spider Man used to come on like the old old 371 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 6: Spider Man would come on on like Saturday mornings, and 372 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 6: I mean it was bad. 373 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: It wasn't even like the incredible. 374 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: Hope was good with with with with lou fregnant bhil 375 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 6: uh bixby, thank you nice pull. 376 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: I was trying to and. 377 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 6: Uh, you know so I mean just all the time, 378 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 6: love Bold. I mean everything that was on in that era. 379 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 6: Like I mean, I knew the TV schedule top to bottom. 380 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: You could ask me what was on TV at what time? 381 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 6: I knew exactly, Yeah, what was on at what time? 382 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 6: And I just you know, I loved all that. And 383 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: then movies. You know, as a matter of fact, I 384 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: ran into east Side not that long ago, and I 385 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 6: was telling him. I was like, man, I hadn't watched 386 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 6: Bad Boys in a long time, the original Bad Boys, 387 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: Sean Penn and the Eastside, and I was just telling 388 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 6: east I'm like, man, you know, it's so interesting now 389 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 6: as a grown man to watch his you know, watching 390 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 6: his work in that movie. 391 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: And I'm like, it was fantastic. He was such and 392 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: still is. I mean, but he. 393 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 5: Yes, how many people can face off with Tom Critiz. 394 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 6: Come on, man, you know, but you even see him 395 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 6: back then with Sean Penn, and he was, I mean, 396 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 6: he held the screen strong and anybody in that movie 397 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 6: and Bad Boys he was you know, he was on 398 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 6: fire Man, and then I put Leabamba on for the 399 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 6: kids not that long ago. And brilliant man, just brilliant 400 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 6: the guy, you know. 401 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: I mean, he's so good, He's so damn good man. 402 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 6: But you know, so there were a few people, and 403 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: I know, you guys know like that you could look 404 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: at and be like, oh, that could. 405 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: Be me, you know, but there were only a couple. 406 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: Won't that many? 407 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 6: Freddie Prinz, you know East Sigh at that time, Jimmy 408 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 6: Jimmy hadn't even really emerged yet really until late eighties 409 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 6: that I remember seeing. Hey, Erica, Erica Strada was early 410 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 6: you know Erica Strada for sure. I remember meeting him 411 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: at the Puerto Rican Day Parade when I was a kid, 412 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 6: went to the Puerto Rican Day Parade his back of 413 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: my father was driving limos and so I got to 414 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 6: meet Erica Strada somehow. I remember that, like probably late seventies, 415 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: seventy eight. 416 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 5: This is before soap operas or after. 417 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: No No he was doing at the time. This is like, yeah, 418 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: he was a guy. 419 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 6: So you know, there weren't There weren't a lot of 420 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 6: faces that you went and that allowed you to imagine 421 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 6: yourself being in one of those casts and so New 422 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: York Undercover. So taking it back to how I had 423 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: this moment. So I'm working as a bellman. I'm enrolled 424 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: in community college just to keep my mother happy, and 425 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 6: and this is where I could stay living at home. 426 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: At the time, I wasn't ready to move out yet. 427 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: I'm still eighteen, trying to put my dough together. And 428 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: I started sending my head shots out. So I'm like, oh, 429 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: let me you know, you had headshots so well. So 430 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 6: I was like, maybe acting is a thing, right. So 431 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 6: I'm going to this community college and I'm like taking 432 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 6: an acting class. 433 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: And I had a moment where I was like, damn, 434 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: I could do this. This feels great to do. 435 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: What made you take it? What made you take an actor? 436 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: Because I was always I was interested in the arts. Man. 437 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 6: I just was like, whether it was music or it 438 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: was you know, I was basically interested in anything where 439 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 6: I felt like there was something free form about it, 440 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 6: you know, the idea of going to school and taking 441 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: a very rigid, structured classroomtality. Yeah, I needed something I 442 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 6: was I don't know, something in me just felt like 443 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 6: I was trying to find myself and these were the 444 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 6: places I thought I was going to do it, and so, yeah, 445 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 6: I ended up in this theater class at this community 446 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 6: college and we had to prepare a scene. And I 447 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 6: had come in and I had dabbled a little bit before. 448 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 6: I had taken like a scene study course with this woman. 449 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 6: Years prior. I would drive this woman. She had an 450 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 6: apartment in Manhattan and then her husband was a surgeon. 451 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 6: They had an apartment, I mean a house up in Nayak, 452 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 6: New York, and I would have to drive her back 453 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: and forth. 454 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: On the weekends. 455 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 6: And then in return, instead of paying me, I was 456 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 6: allowed to take this class of. 457 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: Hers for free. 458 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 6: And so you know, so I did that. But I 459 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 6: was just messing around, like I never thought about doing 460 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: it for a living. And here I was, like eighteen now, 461 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: in this class, eighteen or nineteen at the time, and 462 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 6: realizing that I needed to start getting a little more 463 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: serious about. 464 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: Life and figuring out a direction for myself. 465 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 6: And like I said, I was taking this theater arts 466 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 6: course doing this scene. In the middle of the scene, 467 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 6: I just. 468 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: Felt like I was flying. Man. 469 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: So had that feeling that you get, you know, when 470 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 6: you're doing the thing and having and it feels great. 471 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: And I was like, this is this is it? This 472 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: is this is. 473 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 6: What I'm looking for, you know, this is I want 474 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: to chase this high again somewhere else like this was 475 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 6: this is what I felt like when something exciting was happening, 476 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: when I'm playing baseball or doing something where you feel 477 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 6: those butterflies a little bit, but like the action is 478 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 6: happening and that feeling of like everything else disappears, you know. 479 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: And so I was like, I'm going to chase that. 480 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: So that like, oh, what about you know, some background 481 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: work and so start somewhere in there. 482 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: So all right, let me get head shots, let me 483 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 6: do this and do that. And so I got head shots, 484 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 6: I wrote cover letters. I sent them out to like 485 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: every single casting agency in the Tri state area. 486 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: And how'd you find that? 487 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: Like in the yellow Pages. 488 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 6: Back in the day, there was this thing called the 489 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 6: the Little Blue book Man, and you got it at 490 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 6: Samuel French, which was in midtown in Times Square, there 491 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 6: was a Samuel French bookstore. 492 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: They had all the plays. 493 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 6: And then they would have this book and I keep 494 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 6: wanting to call it the rob Report, but it's not. 495 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: It's the Something Report. And it had a list of 496 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 6: all the talent agencies from top to bottom, biggest to 497 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 6: the smallest, casting directors and everything. So I just went 498 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 6: in there, man, I bought a stack of like two 499 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 6: hundred yellow envelopes, put a cover letter and my head 500 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 6: shot and all them sent out, you know, sent out. 501 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: A stack at eighteen years old. 502 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probout eighteen or nineteen at the time. 503 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 6: That's a you know, trying to figure it out, man, 504 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 6: just to see like what, you know, what, what can 505 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 6: we drum up here? And and then while that was 506 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many men I think back, I'm like, man. 507 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: So what was the first bite? Like when you when 508 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: you were sending that out? 509 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: A couple of bytes came in. 510 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 6: I think I did I did some background on a movie, 511 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 6: and I can't remember what it was. And then the 512 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 6: bite I remember most distinctly, man, and because it led 513 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 6: to a lifelong friendship, was I get a call when 514 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 6: I had some work. 515 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: As a bellman and I get home. It's late. I 516 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 4: listen to my messages and uh, and there's a call. 517 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 6: It's probably about ten o'clock, not that late, but uh, 518 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 6: there's a call on there and it says, Hello, this 519 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 6: is Ulysses Terrero from TMT no way only because there's 520 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 6: an opportunity to work for an Academy Award winning director. Uh, 521 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 6: and I need to know if you're available and have 522 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: a bartender's uniform for uh. 523 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: I forget if it was the next day or the 524 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: day after whatever it was. So I'm like, oh shit, man, 525 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 4: Academy Awards. That sounds crazy. 526 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, this sounds shut out releases, Yulie you. 527 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: I pick up the phone right and I call right away. 528 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 6: I have bartender close because I'm bartending at a place 529 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 6: on the on the weekends when I'm not doing the 530 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: bellman job, a bartend at this little restaurant and uh. 531 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 6: So I called the guy back, but it's after hours, right, 532 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 6: So I call the same number and. 533 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, what's up. 534 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 6: And I was like, it's the same person that left. 535 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, what's up? 536 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 6: Man. I was like, listen, I got a message on 537 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: my answering machine answering machines, so I said, uh, you 538 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: know there's uh there was a message about some extra 539 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 6: work for this Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 540 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 6: let me do so, uh you have you have bartending? 541 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 542 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: I have that, all right? Can you be down at 543 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: Tramps at such and such a time. Yeah, yeah, I'll 544 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 4: just say yes and so. But but of course I'm like, 545 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: who's the director, you. 546 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 6: Know, because I'm trying to know, like who is this 547 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 6: kind of like who's the director? And he's like, uh, 548 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: I can't tell you. I can't tell y'all. That's that's 549 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 6: confidential information. 550 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: That be pandemonium in the. 551 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 6: Streets if I was to tell you what pandemonium in 552 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 6: the scale. So I'm like, well, ship man tomorrow or 553 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 6: day after whenever it was. 554 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm I'm about. 555 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: To like be in comt. 556 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 6: Somebody maybe like man, maybe somebody's going to get a 557 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 6: look at the kid, and like who knows, you know, 558 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 6: you know, it's still silly enough to believe that that's 559 00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 6: all it would work. 560 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: It could happen that way, right, like you yeah, yeah, yeah, 561 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: Oh I got a funny story like that too. Actually. 562 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 6: So I show up at this thing and it's like 563 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 6: it is a low budget movie, as low budget as 564 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: you can imagine, and it's taking place in this little 565 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 6: this spot in New York called Tramps. There used to 566 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 6: be a club. And I get there and I meet 567 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 6: the guy that was on the other end of the 568 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: phone call, and and it's Ulysses. You guys know Juli 569 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: and uh, you know, young Dominican guy looks like you know, 570 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 6: it looks like somebody I'll be friends with, Like he's 571 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 6: my age, Like he's a casting director. Those guys who pioneers, 572 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 6: they got started early. You know, UIs still going, still going, 573 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: stronger than ever. Love you, brother, And so he puts 574 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 6: me in as the bartender. He tries to get me 575 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: some light in the movie. Turns out the director won 576 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 6: an Academy Award for Best Foreign Short Film, so. 577 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: He did have a not a lie. But I had 578 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: no idea who the guy was. 579 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: I don't know about the PanAm or from where. I 580 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 5: believe oh Man Brazilian, Mexican. 581 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: I believe he was Israeli. 582 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I would have to look it up. 583 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 6: The movie was called The Minotaur, and I don't know 584 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: if it ever saw the light of day. I have 585 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 6: no idea saw All I know is I was there 586 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 6: for about eighteen hours. It was non union extra work. 587 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: I might have made fifty bucks, right, but I made 588 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 6: up and I made a friend for the rest of 589 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 6: my life. Like you know, So I met Yuli, and 590 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 6: then Juli would put me on to anything he was doing, 591 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: you know, extra work wise for the next couple of years. 592 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 6: And then I went down to New York undercover because 593 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 6: it was one of the shows in town. Like I 594 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 6: was basically just walking into casting offices around town and like. 595 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: Dropping my head shot off. And my dad knew a 596 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: guy that was that was a teamster in New York 597 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: that used to know my grandfather. 598 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 6: This guy, Sonny Volkee. He shout out to Sonny. Sonny 599 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 6: was married to a woman who used to bartend at 600 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 6: a bar in Spanish Harlem that my my mom's dad 601 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 6: used to go in all the time, and so family 602 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 6: knew each other or whatever, and Sonny was he was like, yeah, yeah, 603 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: I had already sent my head shot down to New 604 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 6: York undercover and Sonny was like, yeah, go again. 605 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: We do the driving over there. So then yeah, project, 606 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: So I had gotten one day of non union extra 607 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: work there and. 608 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: Then who did you get to see shoot at that day? 609 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: The day that I did it, I played like a 610 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: little like a like a delivery boy. I had an 611 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: apron on. 612 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 6: It was like I was delivering something to the precinct 613 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 6: from a bodega or something like that, and you know 614 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 6: I brought up a little bag or whatever was in 615 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 6: the bag coffee, saying but that's a feature extra, right, 616 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 6: So no, I didn't have any lines that I was 617 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 6: I was talking about, you're you got a shot? 618 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: I got something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I 619 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: meet on that day. 620 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: Actually I ended up meeting Rahima, a girl named Paschelle 621 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 6: who Michelle Robinson who was uh was the costumer, and 622 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 6: vet man blanking out on e Vet's last name. So 623 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 6: these three women that were running the wardrobe department, they 624 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 6: were working for a guy named Richie Owings, and Rahima 625 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 6: was my age. And so anyway, we all just become friends, 626 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: like we become cool. And they were like, yeah, we 627 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 6: gotta look out for you, like we gotta make sure 628 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: you gotta think. 629 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: About the New York community. The filmmaker New York community 630 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: was very small. Yeah, if you were doing something in 631 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: New York, they're usual suspects, right, Like they're gonna be 632 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: calling to do the wardrobe of this, especially. 633 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 6: Right there was not Yeah, more movies were being done 634 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: there at that time, but television hadn't had the resurgence yet, right, 635 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 6: But even. 636 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: Movies were like maybe one into maybe one to a year. 637 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: I mean that's not yeah, no, no, at this time. 638 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: I got to tell you. 639 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: At this time, this is like, let's call it like 640 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 6: ninety four through ninety seven. There were there was, there 641 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: were quite a bit of movies being shot at the time. 642 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: Well, didn't didn't we work together? 643 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: Back then? We never worked together. 644 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 6: I went on a cattle call for dead presidents and 645 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 6: waited online like somewhere in the village, but I never not. 646 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 6: I think Jesse might have done. I think Jesse might 647 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 6: have done some background on that. Yes, And so that's 648 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 6: how I got to see Jesse Torero. 649 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Jesse Terrerorero man, yo, quick, quick, 650 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: good story I had. We would have these like monthly dinners, 651 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, me Adam, Jesse Terrero whenever ULI was in town, 652 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: David Ortiz, And one day Jesse goes, yo, man, I 653 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: was your standing on dead presidents? 654 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: And I was like what you were? 655 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: And there was something about like Jesse's sort of body language, 656 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: like of course you were. 657 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: Man, that's crazy. But I didn't know until like I 658 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: love Jesse too ariosold. 659 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean, I've done how many music 660 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: videos you do. 661 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 5: I don't know, probably five. 662 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: I've been his Vigo, I saw those, Yeah I Didluma Ones, 663 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: I did that. 664 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 5: We've seen that. 665 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that did a few shout outs to Jesse to 666 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: he's a giant, he's speaking of cinematic guy. Just such beautiful, 667 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: beautiful human beings man, So shout out to them. 668 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 5: And always looked out for the homing. 669 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So how did how did New York 670 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Undercover change your life? 671 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: Like? 672 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: How did how did things change from there? 673 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 6: You know, I think it changed my life in the 674 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 6: way that I got to be on a set almost 675 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 6: every day of the week. 676 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, were you Were you. 677 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: There for all five seasons? 678 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: No, No, I was there. I think that show lasted 679 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: three or three and a half seasons, and I came in. 680 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: It was already running when I came in. It might 681 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: have been already on for. 682 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 6: The first let me see the first The first time 683 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 6: I did background on that was I want to say, 684 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 6: say October and ninety four, maybe right, And then it 685 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: became a regular thing the following like around February of 686 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: ninety five, it became a regular thing. And then I 687 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 6: did that for another year and a half, almost two 688 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 6: years until I moved out to La But I mean 689 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: it changed my life in the sense that, you know, 690 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 6: it cracked the egg man, like I got to see 691 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: how this happens every day, how the machine works, how 692 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 6: what the flow. 693 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: Is like, you know where to be at what time, 694 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: and what is going mean all of it. It was 695 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: like going to school, you know. 696 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 6: And then on top of that, being embraced by people 697 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: who were you know, participate in that on a on 698 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 6: a on a level that was you know, uh, a 699 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 6: bigger contribution than I was as a background player at 700 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 6: the time, you know. Was uh, you know, it was 701 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 6: incredible because it was like it was making community, you know, 702 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 6: I was. I made friends that I'm still friends with 703 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: to this day after all. 704 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: Those years, you know what I mean. Like and so 705 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: it was. 706 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 6: It was also one of those things sometimes like when 707 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 6: you're looking at something from the outside d you feel 708 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 6: like so far removed from it, and you know, you 709 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 6: can't really imagine how you could ever be a part 710 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 6: of it. And then all of a sudden, I was, 711 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 6: I was in the middle of it, you know, and 712 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 6: and you realize, like, oh man, it's just people. 713 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna hold you right there because 714 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: this conversation obviously has uh has a lot more layers 715 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: to it, and the dance in the detail from you 716 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: Adam is inpeccable. 717 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 5: So this is part one. Thank you for watching part one, 718 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: and I hope you guys stayed for part two. 719 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: If those Amingos, Dos Amigos is a production from WV 720 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through That podcast Network, hosted by Me, 721 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: Freddie Rodriguez and Wilmer Valdorama. 722 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos. 723 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson, 724 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: and Leo Klem at WV Sound. 725 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts 726 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by 727 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Madison Devenport and Hala Boy. 728 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed 729 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: by Deny Holtz. 730 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 5: Clau and thank you for being there third amigo today. 731 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys always listening to Those Amigos. 732 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: More podcasts from my Heart, visit the ir Heart Radio app, 733 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 734 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: See you next week,