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Speaker 3: Next guest, Oh Boy cover the NBA for sixteen years,

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Speaker 3: beat writer for the Lakers and Warriors.

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Speaker 4: Boy, what a great job, Mark Medina. So glad to

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Speaker 4: have you in the studio.

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Speaker 5: Mark.

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Speaker 3: And it's a great time to be alive. The Lakers

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Speaker 3: are cooking with Gas. It's so fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: Great time to be alive, Great time to be with

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Speaker 6: you and Rachel and Sea talk a lot of NBA

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Speaker 6: and there's a lot of things on passing, a lot

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Speaker 4: So Lakers last night to win.

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Speaker 3: Was it more about the Rocket's ineptitude or just the

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Speaker 3: Lakers greatness with JJ Reddick pulling all the right strings?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think both things can be true. The Lakers

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Speaker 6: have been playing at a really high level. We've seen

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Speaker 6: the offense, the chemistry with Luka, Doncis, Lebron j and

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Speaker 6: Austin Reeves performed better. We've actually seen them be a

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Speaker 6: pretty good defensive team.

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Speaker 7: But the Rockets also struggled.

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Speaker 6: They did not shoot well from three, they struggle without

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Speaker 6: Albern saying good for the second consecutive game with a

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Speaker 6: back injury, and Kevin Durant he himself put the blame

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Speaker 6: on himself because of just how poorly he shot. He

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Speaker 6: had seven turnovers, so a lot of things I'm backed

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Speaker 6: from that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like the criticism of the Lakers was, Hey, Lebron,

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Speaker 3: Reeves and Luca they can't play together.

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Speaker 4: And now Reddick has kind of maybe had a talk

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Speaker 4: with Lebron.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that we've got the full story, but

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Speaker 3: something's different clearly in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think here's the distinction.

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Speaker 6: Before this week, the Lakers performed better without Lebron James,

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Speaker 6: but they're not better without Lebron James. A lot of

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Speaker 6: the things had to do with availability, First and foremost,

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Speaker 6: Lebron missing the first fourteen games of the season.

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Speaker 7: Because of Skyattica.

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Speaker 6: Shortly after he returned, then Austin Reeves goes down nineteen

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Speaker 6: consecutive games with a calf injury, but they're also a

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Speaker 6: flawed ross or they weren't great defensively DeAndre and you

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Speaker 6: weren't sure what you're going to get. But from x'es

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Speaker 6: and O's role dynamics, I thought since the Lakers got

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Speaker 6: Luka Doncic last season, the dynamic's been fine. Lucas running

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Speaker 6: the offense, Austin Reeves and Lebron have been playing off

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Speaker 6: of each other. But I think what's been going on

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Speaker 6: is they're getting more reps, but everything else around them,

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Speaker 6: there's more clarity, better starting lineup with the Marcus Smart there,

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Speaker 6: having a defensive orient presence, DeAndre Aiden is performing a

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Speaker 6: lot better, and as a team, they just seem to

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Speaker 6: be a lot more consistent on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Reeves was horrible last night, oh for eight

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Speaker 3: from three. Lebron was fine. It was the Lucas show.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe this Luca narrative that's out there.

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Speaker 4: Mark Oh, He's not first team All NBA.

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Speaker 3: He's overweight, he's not dunking. I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 3: playing it. He's got to be one of the.

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Speaker 6: Top three or four players in the league right Oh,

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Speaker 6: without a doubt. I mean, look, Luca is not a

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Speaker 6: he's only one technical away from having to serve a

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Speaker 7: But when you put.

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Speaker 6: Into context, the proper context of his offensive brilliance, his

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Speaker 6: great shot making the step back three is how he

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Speaker 6: creates those positive attributes vastly outweigh.

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Speaker 7: The negative attribute.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, it's all about putting it in

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Speaker 6: a proper perspective.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure some of the people are annoyed with the

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Speaker 3: Lakers talk, but listen, man, they're one of the hottest

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Speaker 3: teams in the league. That being said, the Rockets are

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Speaker 3: a bit of a disaster right now. I want to

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Speaker 3: go back to the All Star break and the Burners

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Speaker 3: scandal that came out for Durant, so that clearly shows

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Speaker 3: he's not a leader. He's not totally bought into this team.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't love Shangoon and Jabari Smith. But now we're seeing

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to play Wednesday.

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Speaker 7: Have you earn anything, Yeah, I think it's been day

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Speaker 3: Okay, Javari Smith has been fine, but he's nothing special.

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Speaker 4: But what are we seeing with this rocket team?

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Speaker 3: Twelve points in the fourth quarter, Kad had six turnovers

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Speaker 4: Is it safe to.

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Speaker 3: Say he's just not a leader, not an alpha, can't

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Speaker 6: Well, I think Kevin Durant can certainly improved in that respect.

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Speaker 6: He also put blame on his efficiency from x AS

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Speaker 6: clearly missed Fred van Vliet this season. Without having that

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Speaker 6: both sides of the floor here. So you know, Kevin,

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Speaker 6: I thought was revealing and when he was taking the

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Speaker 6: blame on himself at the same time saying, hey, maybe

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Speaker 6: I'm more effective if I'm being a screen setter to

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Speaker 6: create more space. So I think it's a team wide thing,

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Speaker 6: both pre and post all the tension on his Twitter

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Speaker 6: burner account behavior. I think it's more tactical in finding

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Speaker 4: Chemistry is an important word.

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Speaker 3: Like they took Jamori Smith high in the draft. I

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Speaker 3: think I asked, I don't remember it was Rachel or

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Speaker 3: someone else like over under half an All Star game

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Speaker 4: For Jamori Smith, Like, I is he good?

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Speaker 3: He's certainly fine, but like maybe this roster just isn't

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Speaker 3: good enough now Tari Eathan, I believe he's a free agent,

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Speaker 3: and there's some reports that the Lakers really like him

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Speaker 3: as like a stretch four. I don't know, man, Like,

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Speaker 3: are we gonna see Kevin Durant like try to get

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Speaker 3: out of Houston? Maybe I'm going overboard here, But do

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Speaker 3: you think he's going to be on the Rockets next year? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean he agreed to that extension. I know that

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Speaker 6: he's switched teams throughout this tree.

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Speaker 7: Many extensions, but I think he's with the Rockets. We're

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Speaker 7: here to stay in Tarre East.

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Speaker 6: And you mentioned him as a great player, but recently

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Speaker 6: he struggled. I mean I think he's been one of

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Speaker 6: twenty five from three last eight games. So yes, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 6: specifically in their loss against the Lakers, put the blame

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Speaker 6: on himself because of his low efficient numbers and contributing

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Speaker 6: to their high volume of turnovers. But this is a

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Speaker 6: team wide thing as far as their offensive sentergery. The

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Speaker 6: three point shooting, the spacing as well as their defensive effort.

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Speaker 3: So we'll come back to Lebron in a sick But

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Speaker 3: I just want to put a bow on Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: So he left the Warriors where he won titles and

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Speaker 3: MVPs in the finals.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Mark, he just hasn't seemed to.

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Speaker 3: Get back to that mountain top. He was close with

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Speaker 3: the nets to on the line against the honest in

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Speaker 3: the books. Has he diminished his legacy? I know people

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Speaker 3: hate that, but has he can down hill if you will.

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Speaker 3: I know you're supposed to get older and struggle, but

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Speaker 3: I'm told he fits anywhere he's supposed to be dominant.

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Speaker 4: Has he well?

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Speaker 6: I think here's the challenging thing with Kevin Durant. When

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Speaker 6: you're looking at performance x AS and O's his play

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Speaker 6: hasn't diminished that much since the Achilles injury. He's still

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Speaker 6: one of the most efficient players in the NBA. And

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Speaker 6: that's something that's very distinguishable when you're looking at some

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Speaker 6: of the other players. High on the all time scoring

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Speaker 6: but not a high volume shooter. He's still that efficient player.

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Speaker 6: It's about all the teams that's around him. Some of

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Speaker 6: it's external as far as injuries, roster fit. Yeah, some

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Speaker 6: of it's leadership, but I think you're talking about Luca

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Speaker 6: and everything. I look more at the positive attributes with

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Speaker 6: Kevin and what he brings on the floor of anything negative,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of the shortcomings since his Golden States

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Speaker 6: departure or have to do with the rest of the

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Speaker 6: organization and the players around him.

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Speaker 4: Everyone gets blamed except Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: Westbrook's fault that he has to get out of Okacy,

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Speaker 3: and then well, Kyrie Irving went sideways in Brooklyn, and

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Speaker 3: then who do we blame in Phoenix? All the coaches

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Speaker 3: he had multiple co It's never Kevin Durant's fall, And

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Speaker 3: I like Katie, I've defended the guy. But Mark at

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Speaker 3: some point like he's got to take some ownership, right

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Speaker 3: You kids just.

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Speaker 4: Be like, well, I'm not the leader, I'm not the

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Speaker 7: There's ownership hi to take around.

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Speaker 6: But I think when you're looking at each team, specifically

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Speaker 6: with Phoenix, I don't think there's a head coaching problem.

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Speaker 6: They went through to pretty good head coach with the

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Speaker 6: string Gogel and Mike Bohenholzer. It was a roster construction

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Speaker 6: problem as far as availability, having enough defensive depth, and

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Speaker 6: not saying he's completely blameless. He can do no wrong,

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Speaker 6: but proportionally, I don't think most of it falls.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to a team everybody likes, and that's

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Speaker 4: a Spurs. One Minyama last night here against the.

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Speaker 3: Clippers, twenty one to thirteen, four blocks the end of

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Speaker 3: the game situation, he's literally flying around the court to

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Speaker 4: I mean, a guy special.

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Speaker 3: I personally think Stephan Castle is like a major star

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Speaker 4: He had an incredible move last night. I think the

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Speaker 4: Spurs are the team to beat in the West. Who

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Speaker 7: I actually have the Spurs too.

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Speaker 6: I mean they'd be the thunder in the regular season

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Speaker 6: matchup two out of three times. They're clearly not just

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Speaker 6: the team that's happy to be there. They have a

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Speaker 6: right combination of young players, veteran players and they're ready

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Speaker 6: to make that step.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't mean that they're going to win.

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Speaker 6: An NBA championship or get out of the Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 6: But if they are going to fall short, it's not

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Speaker 6: going to be because they're overwhelmed with the moment. It's

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Speaker 6: just going to be tactical. And the thunder are pretty good.

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Speaker 6: They're obviously pretty good in the West for a reason,

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Speaker 6: and I think it's something to be said that even

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Speaker 6: with overlapping injuries to their own group this season, most

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Speaker 6: notably to Jayleen Williams, they've been a well oiled machine.

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Speaker 7: But I think Victor Webbinyama.

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Speaker 6: It's clear we all known he's going to be a

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Speaker 6: He has been special player, going to be a special player.

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Speaker 6: But I just love these intangibles about him. They're just

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Speaker 6: how competitive he is. He's putting out there. He wants

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Speaker 6: to win MVP J Mack. They got fifty wins last night,

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Speaker 6: and he was talking about, you know what, I'll be

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Speaker 6: impressed if we get sixty because it makes up for,

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Speaker 6: What do you got, Mark Well, Sorry to get on

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Speaker 7: Choosing the Celtics over the Knicks.

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Speaker 7: With the Celtics, they've been a well oiled machine.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brown has taken its game to another level, being

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Speaker 7: So you add all that up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I talked to some outside doctors for perspective

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Speaker 6: and they outline this. They said, because of how Achilles

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Speaker 4: A round forty one last night, you have twenty one

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Speaker 4: on the list of questions. Give me your first team

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Speaker 7: Now this is really tough, it is.

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Speaker 4: There's nine guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you didn't, we would have cunning him as

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Speaker 4: He was an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 3: I think he was third in the MVPs like three

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Speaker 6: Well, he's been more of efficient scorer this season. Now

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Speaker 7: He's improved there.

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Speaker 6: But Jmack, the guys that we're talking about, especially Luca,

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Speaker 6: they've just been playing really, really well and the Lakers

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Speaker 4: What about Anthony Edwards? No love for Ant? I mean,

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Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards is great. But here's the m on Ant.

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Speaker 7: That's good, but yeah.

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Speaker 6: Chris Finch, the Wolves coach, has often talked this season

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Speaker 7: But the keyword here is potential.

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Speaker 6: He's improved offensively, He's improved as an outside shooter, knowing

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Speaker 3: Okay, if Ant could be the I'm assuming that's the

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Speaker 4: I do we love Finch.

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Speaker 4: Obviously can't reveal what I ask.

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Speaker 3: it's got to be wee Bin Yama, right.

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Speaker 3: At okay, we'll wrap up with Steph Curry, my guy,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I want him back the season mark.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't need another injury. He's getting up

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know there's gray area, but I think the

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Speaker 7: When Jimmy Butler's.

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Speaker 3: He just turned thirty eight this week. Actually, happy birthday, Curry.

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Speaker 4: Listen. I know this is selfish of me. I love

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Speaker 3: I want to see him on a contending team next year,

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Speaker 3: and I know that's probably not going to happen the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: Why would they give away Curry? But like they're not

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Speaker 3: I don't know what his status is next year, coming

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Speaker 4: There's no path to success for them next year.

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Speaker 3: You can't look up and Pods and company have them

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Speaker 3: like as the four seat.

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Speaker 4: That's not happening.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Am I being selfish or I.

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Speaker 7: Think both things are true.

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Speaker 6: I think Rachel and I are correct that they should

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Speaker 7: Even he's not going to.

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Speaker 8: Ask out thank you, Mark, this is they're not going

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Speaker 8: to trade Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: What if he says I want to play for a contender.

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Speaker 4: I know Rachel does.

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Speaker 7: He's with the Warriors for Life.

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Speaker 4: Nobody would fault you, Curry if you did that. All right,

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Speaker 4: Mark Medina, NBA Insider, Great stuff.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I gotta try to, you know, say some stuff

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Speaker 3: that I really believe deep down.

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, Rachel makes her final four picks and

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Speaker 3: we're head to head on one of them.

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Speaker 4: That's next year on The Herd.

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Speaker 8: All right, Jason, you major picks yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It's my turn here. We got final four picks. Let's go.

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Speaker 5: So I think you know you and I are the

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Speaker 5: same on most of these, but not all.

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Speaker 8: I do think West and Midwest, You've got Arizona and

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Speaker 8: Michigan coming through. Both have brackets that they should be

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Speaker 8: able to handle.

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Speaker 5: No problem.

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Speaker 8: In the East, I will say I'm a little worried

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Speaker 8: about a possible Saint John's matchup. I'm a little worried

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Speaker 8: about a Michigan State matchup, but I do have Duke

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Speaker 8: making it through. And in the South, we do agree

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Speaker 8: both that that Florida region is just it's too chaotic,

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Speaker 8: and Florida just doesn't feel as strong you had Illinois

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Speaker 8: coming out of the of the South. I have Houston

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Speaker 8: coming out of the South, and I want to remind

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Speaker 8: you that I might have flipped to something else. I

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Speaker 8: was States in the mix and all that. But but wait,

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Speaker 8: but wait, the Elite eight game, the Sweet Sixteens games

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Speaker 8: are in Houston, Jason. You can go to the arena,

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Speaker 8: the Rockets Arena where they're going to play those games.

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Speaker 8: You can bike to the University of Houston campus in

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Speaker 8: fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 7: That's unfair.

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Speaker 4: So I just I think they will be playing going down.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I feel like between the home court advantage

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Speaker 8: and not just with the fans, but like the comfort level. Right,

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Speaker 8: you're in your own space, You're in your own bed,

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Speaker 8: all of that stuff. So I don't know, all right,

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Speaker 8: you want to go head to head though? On Ellen,

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Speaker 8: want to tell me why you think Illinois is there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I bet on offense in March, probably

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Speaker 3: should bet on defense. A number one in a country

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Speaker 3: on offense. I think Houston's top five in defense. So

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Speaker 3: it's a clashing styles. Yeah, obviously the coach matchup. You know,

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Speaker 3: Underwood had a family member who was an intern, yere

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Speaker 3: I became a bigger fan of the team. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be that's a great game. I can't wait for it.

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Speaker 3: And then of course Arizona Michigan we have that matchup

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 4: Damn yeah.

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Speaker 8: So, by the way, I wish Arizona and Michigan were

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Speaker 8: on opposite side because I think those are the two

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Speaker 8: best teams in there. I do have Arizona coming out

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Speaker 8: on that side, and then on the.

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Speaker 5: Other side, it's tough.

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Speaker 8: I've got Duke coming out back into the championship game.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel great about it, Jason, I feel backed

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Speaker 5: into it by the bracket.

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is we get all I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't know about you.

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Speaker 3: I get all wishy washing, like I'm like, oh, Duke's going.

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Speaker 4: And now I'm like, Duke is vulnerable. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't believe in some of the Yukon's party.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's gonna it's gonna be a great one.

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Speaker 8: I do think Arizona is gonna win it all. Finally,

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Speaker 8: the twenty five year curse will be over. I wanted

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Speaker 8: to ask you because.

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Speaker 4: I was on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Simon says, Championship nce Classic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: All right, so you're a gambler. So I wanted to

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Speaker 5: ask you.

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Speaker 8: There's these potential I mean there's the first round matchups

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Speaker 8: that everyone likes to pick their upsets in the first round, right, Okay,

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Speaker 8: So here's the three that I've seen the most people picking,

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Speaker 8: and I want to know which one of these you

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Speaker 8: would bet the under underdog on.

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Speaker 5: So there's North Carolina VCU.

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Speaker 4: I have bet VCU.

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Speaker 5: High Point versus Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: I mean Wisconsin's boom Bus with the threes they'll shoot fifty.

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Speaker 4: I would probably lean Wisconsin with the boom.

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Speaker 5: Santa Clara versus Context.

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Speaker 4: I bet Santa Clara.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're two out of three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Santa Clara has zero and three against Gonzaga, I believe.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's gonna be some underdog upsets. Remember last

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Speaker 3: year was Super Chalk. Yeah, so now the lines are inflated.

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Speaker 3: I saw the top two seeds are all double digit

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Speaker 3: spreads of over twenty. Yeah, they're begging you to bet

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Speaker 3: the underdog. I mean, I think we'll see some interesting

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Speaker 3: games a little closer than last year's first round. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I always like to see who comes out of

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Speaker 8: the first round. Yeah, you know, with those matchups. All right,

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Speaker 8: let's talk about the Cowboys because this just insensed me

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Speaker 8: in the meeting this morning. They of course had one

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Speaker 8: of the worst defenses in the NFL last season.

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Speaker 5: They've made some great moves and free.

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Speaker 8: Agency to shore that up. And here's a quote from

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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones. Let's take a listen to him. He says,

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Speaker 8: you know, things are looking rosy from a situation. I

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Speaker 8: will just listen to what he says, and then I'll

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Speaker 8: tell you why it got me mad.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that since we've had free agent says

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Speaker 9: we know it today where it's really very viible. Most

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Speaker 9: teams in bobbed very actively making deals, if you will.

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Speaker 9: I don't know since that as a mob would come

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Speaker 9: about now, we've ever had this kind of reshaping of

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Speaker 9: an aspect team. And I'll tell you, when you have

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Speaker 9: the challenges we had last year, there's no place to

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Speaker 9: go but up on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 9: And had we played a lique of defense last year,

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Speaker 9: I would ahead of ourselves and I think a.

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Speaker 4: Real playoff run it.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 5: That's the part. You know why they couldn't play a

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Speaker 5: liqu of defense.

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Speaker 4: And I guess because you.

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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones traded away your best defensive player a week

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Speaker 8: before this season started, Like.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, the lack of self awareness is jarring.

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Speaker 8: I just I can't understand a not to see that coming.

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Speaker 8: By the way, trading away Micah. Oh, I wonder what's

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Speaker 8: gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: The whole year your defensive coordinator the whole summer finding

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Speaker 3: around Micah right, Oh, he's gone right.

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Speaker 8: And waiting, by the way, if you knew, if you

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Speaker 8: knew it was going to come down to this, why

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Speaker 8: do it? I have long been saying Jerry Jones, the

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Speaker 8: way he handles these young players and not extending them

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Speaker 8: and waiting to the last moment, it's just ridiculous. On

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb alone.

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Speaker 5: He could have saved.

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Speaker 8: Sixty four million dollars by just extending them earlier instead

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Speaker 8: of waiting until when he did. By the way, that's

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Speaker 8: sixty four million dollars you could have spent on more

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Speaker 8: good defensive players.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just it's all himself is shooting himself

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Speaker 5: in the foot. And I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I'm a Washington fan, so you know, I don't mind

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys suffering. But for if I was a Dallas fan, Jason,

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Speaker 8: I would hear that and I would be mad for

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Speaker 8: a week.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing, like, dude, come on, disappointing stuff

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Speaker 3: from jail.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, part of the course, you feel like that, that's

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Speaker 8: what you're getting from him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in the last thirty years.

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Speaker 5: But let's take a baseball.

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Speaker 8: Venezuela be Italy last night to advance the tonight's championship

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Speaker 8: game World Baseball Classic. It's Venezuela's first time in the final,

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Speaker 8: and after the game, Ronald Lacunya Junior was talking about,

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Speaker 8: you know, he missed basically the bravest World Series because

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Speaker 8: he had a tourn acl so he's just watching, right,

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Speaker 8: So he says this final it's kind of his personal

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Speaker 8: chance for a high stakes title. Plus you add in

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Speaker 8: that he's playing for his country.

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Speaker 5: This was great.

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Speaker 8: In an interview in Spanish, she said, quote, I love

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Speaker 8: the Atlanta Braves, but before I played for the Braves,

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Speaker 8: I was born in Venezuela, which is perfect.

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Speaker 3: So who you got tonight between these two teams, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go out on a lim usa.

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Speaker 5: I mean, by the way, I mean.

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Speaker 8: That's you say it is, if it's.

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Speaker 5: A done deal, it's not.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is a very even matchup. But yes,

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Speaker 8: I mean we believe in our guys.

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Speaker 4: Right, Davis broke it down earlier.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it's not a great pitching matchup, so

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Speaker 3: there could be some fireworks at the plate.

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Speaker 8: I worry about the pitching, and you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 8: always like, guys should play. I wanted Steph Curry to

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Speaker 8: play all those fourth quarters in twenty fifteen when Steve

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Speaker 8: Perr was pulling him.

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Speaker 5: I'm always like, play woo play to me.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I understand it affects their ramp up and spring training,

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Speaker 8: but come on, you got all your pitchers pitch tonight.

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Speaker 8: If you're one of these major league teams, if you

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Speaker 8: were the Padres, let the guy close the game.

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Speaker 5: So I we'll see what they do.

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Speaker 8: But I what's he gonna what's he gonna do closing

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Speaker 8: an inn a four batters?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I mean, Like, what's the what's the

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Speaker 5: harm there?

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. I don't have the answer to that,

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Speaker 4: Martyr people will know. Rachel with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 3: All right, real quick, we could wrap up with this

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Speaker 3: story that popped yesterday. According to the Associated Press, this

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Speaker 3: is fascinating. So quick backstory. Yak Cell Lendeborg, the Big

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Speaker 3: ten player of the year. He's at Michigan. He was

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Speaker 3: a superstar. He was at UAB last year. He blows up,

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Speaker 3: was incredible. Everybody wanted him in the transfer portal. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Lendenborg also had interest from the NBA. Now he was

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Speaker 3: projected as a late first round pick, early second and

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Speaker 3: you know, he would have made some money.

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Speaker 4: Going to the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Then colleges got in a bidding war for mister Lindenborg area.

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Speaker 3: As you see him flushing on the fast break on Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: He could do it all. I thought he was the

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Speaker 4: best player on.

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Speaker 3: The court against Duke earlier this season for like three

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Speaker 3: quarters a game, and then.

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Speaker 4: Boozer took over late.

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Speaker 3: So Lendeborg decides do I want to go? NBA puts

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Speaker 3: his name in the draft lottery process and then the

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Speaker 3: offers start coming in and Michigan offers reportedly depending on

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Speaker 3: who you read, about five million dollars and Lendeborg speaking

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Speaker 3: to the ap this week said Kentucky came in with

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Speaker 3: an offer in the seven to nine million dollar range

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Speaker 3: seven to nine million dollars. Lendeborg turns down Kentucky, says

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Speaker 3: he wants to play for Dusty May, the great coach

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Speaker 3: who took Florida Atlantic to the Final Four just a

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago. The system that they run is incredible,

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Speaker 3: up tempo. Lendeborg's just look, I mean, you look at

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Speaker 3: these highlights and you're like, oh my, how is this

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Speaker 3: guy not our top ten pick? Well, he's I believe,

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Speaker 3: twenty three years old, and the history of older guys

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Speaker 3: in the lottery.

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Speaker 4: Is not great.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of handwringing and pearl watching over

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Speaker 3: a seven million dollar offer for a kid out of UAB.

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Speaker 4: Folks, you know who likes us? Every player in college

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Speaker 4: basketball and the NBA we now know.

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Speaker 3: We have a full season on Yaksa Lendeboard rooting for him, national.

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Speaker 4: TV games, huge spotlight.

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Speaker 3: One of the big knocks on college basketball was, oh,

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Speaker 3: the one and done. The guys are barely around these freshmen,

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Speaker 3: we don't know them.

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Speaker 4: There's just not enough. We get to know them for

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Speaker 4: a month in March there's just not enough information on

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Speaker 4: them to get excited. Well, now you got a twenty

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Speaker 4: three year old in Lendenborg.

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Speaker 3: I mean sure some people paid attention to him at UAB,

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Speaker 3: but once the bidding war started.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knew this guy's name. And I think this is

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Speaker 4: just a huge win for the NBA.

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Speaker 3: For the players obviously, I mean, you could stay in

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Speaker 3: school and make three, four or five million dollars as

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Speaker 3: opposed to go late first round or early second into

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Speaker 3: the NBA and more than likely.

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Speaker 4: Sit on the bench. Like I just love this for

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Speaker 4: college basketball.

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Speaker 3: And again, I know college football similar situation, and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, oh, well, the kit should not

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Speaker 3: be making this much money.

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Speaker 4: Just stop.

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Speaker 3: The market speaks and the big winners are the players

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Speaker 3: and I think the NBA. Now, of course, anytime there's winners,

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Speaker 3: there's some losers.

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Speaker 4: We won't get into that here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's not great, but for the

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Speaker 3: sport of college basketball, I think there's the anticipation for

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Speaker 3: March Madness. This year is off the charts. And it's

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Speaker 3: not just the fresh the superstar freshman. I mean, you've

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Speaker 3: got teams that are coming out of nowhere in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: They're a threat Vanderbilt. When was the last time Vanderbilt

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Speaker 3: was relevant? Their their guards are incredible. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: so many good teams this year. I just think this

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Speaker 3: NIL has been such a boon for college football. You

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Speaker 3: see in the Big Ten, I mean Indiana and Miami

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Speaker 3: in the in the National Championship Game. I know SEC

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Speaker 3: Country is very upset, but Rachel, I love this Lindeberg story.

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Speaker 3: I think this is low key one of the better

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Speaker 3: stories of the weekend Sports.

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Speaker 8: I totally agree with you that it's helped the college game,

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Speaker 8: but it really has helped the NBA because the longer

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Speaker 8: these guys stay in school, the more polished they are

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Speaker 8: when they get to the NBA. And plus, it's really

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Speaker 8: hard to judge an eighteen year old on their future.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 8: That's why we have these first round top ten bus

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Speaker 8: in every draft, because it's not an exact science. The

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Speaker 8: more you see them play, the more you can project

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Speaker 8: out will they have the skills to be good with

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Speaker 8: my team? Will they have the skills to be good

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Speaker 8: in the NBA. I think the NBA, now that players

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Speaker 8: are making money in college and they have that opportunity,

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Speaker 8: I think they should raise the age limit to twenty.

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Speaker 5: That's what I would do if I were the owner,

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Speaker 5: So that would be.

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Speaker 4: Two years in school.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's some now some holdbacks in high school, so

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Speaker 3: it could just be still one.

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Speaker 5: But whatever, that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's it for today.

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Speaker 3: Big USA Venezuela match up tonight on Fox